Re: CS: Ions vs particles
Kevin Nolan wrote: Interesting too what Ole Bob had to say about HVAC with and without = CO2 blanket. The clear implication is that without it (CO2) one runs a = strong chance of brewing a significant fraction of silver as silver = nitrate solution - generally considered it seems as a pretty = undesireable form of silver. Bob's statement does not apply to the HVAC method as it is generally implemented. His statement is specific for only the HVAC ARC method that he uses. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS: Ions vs particles
In a message dated 9/29/2001 11:01:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fr...@strsoft.com writes: Kevin Nolan wrote: Interesting too what Ole Bob had to say about HVAC with and without = CO2 blanket. The clear implication is that without it (CO2) one runs a = strong chance of brewing a significant fraction of silver as silver = nitrate solution - generally considered it seems as a pretty = undesireable form of silver. Bob's statement does not apply to the HVAC method as it is generally implemented. His statement is specific for only the HVAC ARC method that he uses. frank key Frank: Even in that regard, sputtered silver formed from a blanketless HVAC Arc generates such a high rate of silver ion production that nitrate concentration can be ignored according to one published EPA reference I found. When one looks at the EPA's probably very conservative nitrate tolerances, there is very, very little risk of ingesting anything close to toxic nitrate levels, even if the CS is taken prophylactically. However, if one does choose to make CS by this method, a nitrate analysis should always by made on the final lot as a precautionary measure. Roger
Re: CS: Ions vs particles
Roger and Frank, I suggest that one measures the NO3 at the time of manufacture and then daily for several days. If the DW is very low in impurities then the anion will be ozone. I have another batch that will be ready at 12:15 my time (CST). It is being made with a DW that has 3.2 uS/cc conductance. This is to verify NO3 change with conductivity. The ad for Silver 100 says it is complexed with citrates and potassium. so I am looking for something like potassium bicarbonate to provide the anion. We all need potassium, and it should bring up the pH to 6+. Ole Bob
Re: CS: Ions vs particles
In a message dated 9/29/2001 12:58:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bober...@swbell.net writes: Subj:Re: CS: Ions vs particles Date:9/29/2001 12:58:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:bober...@swbell.net (Robert Berger) Reply-to: A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A To:silver-list@eskimo.com Roger and Frank, I suggest that one measures the NO3 at the time of manufacture and then daily for several days. If the DW is very low in impurities then the anion will be ozone. I have another batch that will be ready at 12:15 my time (CST). It is being made with a DW that has 3.2 uS/cc conductance. This is to verify NO3 change with conductivity. Bob: Sounds like a good idea. A direct correlation would be revealing. Roger The ad for Silver 100 says it is complexed with citrates and potassium. so I am looking for something like potassium bicarbonate to provide the anion. We all need potassium, and it should bring up the pH to 6+. Bob: Why not add potassium citrate and be done with it? Is it expensive or difficult to find? Roger
Re: CS: Ions vs particles
Roger, Good idead. When would I add it, before or after brew?? Ole Bob
Re: CS: Ions vs particles
In a message dated 9/29/2001 2:33:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bober...@swbell.net writes: Subj:Re: CS: Ions vs particles Date:9/29/2001 2:33:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:bober...@swbell.net (Robert Berger) Reply-to: A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A To:silver-list@eskimo.com Roger, Good idead. When would I add it, before or after brew?? Ole Bob Bob: Please let me know exactly what you are trying to do and what are you starting with. Roger
