RE: CS>TDS1 & PWT
Thanx M. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT Generally it should increase the conductance. This should have no direct effect on the sol. Also it can reduce the ph, especially with CO2. That can lead to precipitation if it goes too low. Marshall "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > I once got the permeability figures from a resin site, but did not know how > to apply them. > > What do you think the effect of N and O and CO2 will have on the sol? > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 9:02 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > > HDPE is permiable to gases in the air, including CO2. That is the only > "problem" I know about it. I posted the actual numbers here earlier, but seem > to be unable to find them again right now. > > Marshall > > "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > > > Hi Steve and all, > > > > High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water. I > > wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they > > said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text. > > > > Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does > > not take from or affect what is in the water. > > > > Glass is soluble in distilled water. I don't remember the details, but > > probably have some info on that in my files/piles. > > > > Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both > > 20C and 50C. > > > > James Osbourne Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM > > To: SILVER-LIST > > Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > > > > Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the > > off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard > > research on this topic. > > > > By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for > > visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know > > there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a > > strong TE. Make sense? > > > > I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around > > in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if > > they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by > > static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive > > or > > actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve Geigle > > sgei...@home.com > > > > > Hi Ya'all, > > > > > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > > > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > > > > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > > > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > > > > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > > > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > > > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > > > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > > > > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > > > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > > > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > > > brightness and width. > > > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
I remember storing CS in #1 plastic and a couple of days later, there was a yellow film on it. I'm now wondering if the plastic didn't take on a positive charge some how, attract the CS? Any thoughts fellow CS'ers? Cheers, Steven Geigle Cedar Mill, Oregon, USA sgei...@home.com - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 7:46 AM Subject: RE: CS>TDS1 & PWT > Hi Steve and all, > > High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water. I > wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they > said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text. > > Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does > not take from or affect what is in the water. > > Glass is soluble in distilled water. I don't remember the details, but > probably have some info on that in my files/piles. > > Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both > 20C and 50C. > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM > To: SILVER-LIST > Subject: Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > > Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the > off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard > research on this topic. > > By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for > visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know > there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a > strong TE. Make sense? > > I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around > in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if > they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by > static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive > or > actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? > > Cheers, > > Steve Geigle > sgei...@home.com > > > Hi Ya'all, > > > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > > brightness and width. > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
Generally it should increase the conductance. This should have no direct effect on the sol. Also it can reduce the ph, especially with CO2. That can lead to precipitation if it goes too low. Marshall "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > I once got the permeability figures from a resin site, but did not know how > to apply them. > > What do you think the effect of N and O and CO2 will have on the sol? > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 9:02 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > > HDPE is permiable to gases in the air, including CO2. That is the only > "problem" I know about it. I posted the actual numbers here earlier, but seem > to be unable to find them again right now. > > Marshall > > "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > > > Hi Steve and all, > > > > High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water. I > > wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they > > said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text. > > > > Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does > > not take from or affect what is in the water. > > > > Glass is soluble in distilled water. I don't remember the details, but > > probably have some info on that in my files/piles. > > > > Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both > > 20C and 50C. > > > > James Osbourne Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM > > To: SILVER-LIST > > Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > > > > Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the > > off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard > > research on this topic. > > > > By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for > > visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know > > there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a > > strong TE. Make sense? > > > > I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around > > in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if > > they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by > > static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive > > or > > actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve Geigle > > sgei...@home.com > > > > > Hi Ya'all, > > > > > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > > > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > > > > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > > > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > > > > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > > > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > > > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > > > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > > > > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > > > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > > > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > > > brightness and width. > > > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
RE: CS>TDS1 & PWT
Hi Marshall, I once got the permeability figures from a resin site, but did not know how to apply them. What do you think the effect of N and O and CO2 will have on the sol? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 9:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT HDPE is permiable to gases in the air, including CO2. That is the only "problem" I know about it. I posted the actual numbers here earlier, but seem to be unable to find them again right now. Marshall "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > Hi Steve and all, > > High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water. I > wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they > said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text. > > Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does > not take from or affect what is in the water. > > Glass is soluble in distilled water. I don't remember the details, but > probably have some info on that in my files/piles. > > Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both > 20C and 50C. > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM > To: SILVER-LIST > Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > > Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the > off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard > research on this topic. > > By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for > visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know > there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a > strong TE. Make sense? > > I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around > in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if > they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by > static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive > or > actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? > > Cheers, > > Steve Geigle > sgei...@home.com > > > Hi Ya'all, > > > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > > brightness and width. > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
Stephen Quinto wrote: > To reply to your request, Steve, for developing visual standards for testing > size or strength you've just asked the impossible. > > The only way to determine size is to visually measure the particles (or > chunks) of silver in calibrated visualizing equipment such as a Transmission > Electron Microscope. > > And the only accurate means for establishing concentration (or strength) of > silver in a liquid medium is either Atomic Absbsorbtion Spectrophotometry or > Inductively Coupled Plasma analysis (the latter also quantifying the > presence of other elements if that is needed). spectorphotometer colormetry is also accurate if the sample is processed properly. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
To reply to your request, Steve, for developing visual standards for testing size or strength you've just asked the impossible. The only way to determine size is to visually measure the particles (or chunks) of silver in calibrated visualizing equipment such as a Transmission Electron Microscope. And the only accurate means for establishing concentration (or strength) of silver in a liquid medium is either Atomic Absbsorbtion Spectrophotometry or Inductively Coupled Plasma analysis (the latter also quantifying the presence of other elements if that is needed). As far as process, many posts from other listers are as good a guide as you will get. But a diminished T.E. is clearly the most desirable attribute. (You will then have smaller sized particles in your soup). Stephen - Original Message - From: Steve Geigle To: SILVER-LIST Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:20 AM Subject: Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the > off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard > research on this topic. > > By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for > visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know > there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a > strong TE. Make sense? > > I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around > in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if > they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by > static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive or > actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? > > Cheers, > > Steve Geigle > sgei...@home.com > > > Hi Ya'all, > > > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > > brightness and width. > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
HDPE is permiable to gases in the air, including CO2. That is the only "problem" I know about it. I posted the actual numbers here earlier, but seem to be unable to find them again right now. Marshall "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > Hi Steve and all, > > High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water. I > wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they > said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text. > > Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does > not take from or affect what is in the water. > > Glass is soluble in distilled water. I don't remember the details, but > probably have some info on that in my files/piles. > > Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both > 20C and 50C. > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM > To: SILVER-LIST > Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT > > Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the > off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard > research on this topic. > > By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for > visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know > there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a > strong TE. Make sense? > > I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around > in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if > they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by > static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive > or > actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? > > Cheers, > > Steve Geigle > sgei...@home.com > > > Hi Ya'all, > > > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > > brightness and width. > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
RE: CS>TDS1 & PWT
Hi Steve and all, High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water. I wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text. Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does not take from or affect what is in the water. Glass is soluble in distilled water. I don't remember the details, but probably have some info on that in my files/piles. Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both 20C and 50C. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM To: SILVER-LIST Subject:Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard research on this topic. By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a strong TE. Make sense? I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive or actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? Cheers, Steve Geigle sgei...@home.com > Hi Ya'all, > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > brightness and width. > > "Ole Bob" > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob. I wade through all the off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard research on this topic. By the way can you and/or other experts develop some sort of standard for visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution? I know there are quite a few variables. I stick with clear solution registering a strong TE. Make sense? I'm still wondering about using plastic. Sure, the silver will move around in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if they gain electrons? Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by static electricity)? Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive or actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions? Cheers, Steve Geigle sgei...@home.com > Hi Ya'all, > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an > electrical meter can measure ppm !! > > 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS > 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. > 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS > 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in > brightness and width. > > "Ole Bob" > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>TDS1 & PWT
Hi Ya'all, Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless. The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an electrical meter can measure ppm !! 8/29/99; 41 pp; 47 uS 9/14/99; 52 ppm; N.A. 11/26; ppm N.A.; 85 uS 4/5/00; 38 ppm;98 uS This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in brightness and width. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Calibrating Hanna's TDS1
Hi Jim, My wife made up a sodium chloride solution of 50 ppm for me and I've used that to check the calibration of my TDS-1 over time, and it hasn't moved. There will be some difference between NaCl and the calcium compound they use, but you should be able to make up a jar full of salt water that you can use as kind of a standard. Mix up something that reads a nice round number on your newly calibrated unit. Then, just check to see if anything's changed from time to time. The reading should stay the same. And, of course, keep in mind that the TDS-1 will only give you an idea of your actual ppm if you get it checked by other means and correlate the two measurements *and* you keep your process exactly the same. Be well, Mike D. > Hi! > > I'm curious about the 25 calibration samples that Hanna sells for > their TDS1 pocket meter. The samples cost as much as the meter! > Since the meter comes calibrated, couldn't you just keep a known > sample of CS to calibrate back to when necessary? Is the > concentration of CS stable enough over time to permit it to be used > for this purpose? > > Thanks! > > Jim [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Calibrating Hanna's TDS1
Hi! I'm curious about the 25 calibration samples that Hanna sells for their TDS1 pocket meter. The samples cost as much as the meter! Since the meter comes calibrated, couldn't you just keep a known sample of CS to calibrate back to when necessary? Is the concentration of CS stable enough over time to permit it to be used for this purpose? Thanks! Jim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tds1 use
>From the Hanna literature I take it that a four probe system is employed. Two probes across from each other pass a known current. The other two sense the flow and amplify. The temperature is measured and taking into account. Of course the silver is not dissolved at all but is only hanging out in the water molecule. The oxygen would be as a house, the hydrogen as a dog, and the bitty little silver from a single atom to atom clusters of silver. These are suspended by like repulsion either positive or negitive so I guess the TDS does not give a measure of true ppm of a sol, but it is still quantitative. On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:58:24 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > How is the measurement made? If it is by resistance I can believe the > reading, that is I would expect them, but they would be wrong as far a ppm is > concerned. > Marshall > Scharbach wrote: >> A higher ppm on a 2 hour batch of silver than on a 12 hour batch? >> DId you do something else different? >> Sparrow >> >My tds1 came today and after calibrating checked out my CS. >> > >> >HVAC 2 hour batch - 26 ppm. clear, light tyndall >> >HVAC drip 2 minute batch 3 ppm. clear, very light tyndall >> >LVDC 12 hour batch 6 ppm, yellow, very strong tyndall >> >LVDC 2 hour batch, 12 ppm clear, good (distinct) tyndall >> > >> >If I remember right the folks who use these to monitor their production >> >figure the CS ppm as 1/2 the tds1 meter reading? This has been verified >> >by other testing if memory serves. >> > >> >Please clarify if possible. Thanks...RONjb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tds1 use
How is the measurement made? If it is by resistance I can believe the reading, that is I would expect them, but they would be wrong as far a ppm is concerned. Marshall Scharbach wrote: > A higher ppm on a 2 hour batch of silver than on a 12 hour batch? > DId you do something else different? > > Sparrow > > >My tds1 came today and after calibrating checked out my CS. > > > >HVAC 2 hour batch - 26 ppm. clear, light tyndall > >HVAC drip 2 minute batch 3 ppm. clear, very light tyndall > >LVDC 12 hour batch 6 ppm, yellow, very strong tyndall > >LVDC 2 hour batch, 12 ppm clear, good (distinct) tyndall > > > >If I remember right the folks who use these to monitor their production > >figure the CS ppm as 1/2 the tds1 meter reading? This has been verified > >by other testing if memory serves. > > > >Please clarify if possible. Thanks...RONjb > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tds1 use
The only difference was the run time. My guess is the way the tds works, the yellow CS may have more silver in it but larger particles and less total surface area of silver. The 2 hour clear may have less silver but more surface area because the particle size is smaller. A analogy would be two cups with water, one with two ice cubes floating, the other with one ice cube crashed and floating. If the ice were conductive the crushed ice would more likely have a flow. On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:16:13 -0500, "Scharbach" wrote: > A higher ppm on a 2 hour batch of silver than on a 12 hour batch? > DId you do something else different? > Sparrow >> My tds1 came today and after calibrating checked out my CS. >> HVAC 2 hour batch - 26 ppm. clear, light tyndall >> HVAC drip 2 minute batch 3 ppm. clear, very light tyndall >> LVDC 12 hour batch 6 ppm, yellow, very strong tyndall >> LVDC 2 hour batch, 12 ppm clear, good (distinct) tyndall >> If I remember right the folks who use these to monitor their production >> figure the CS ppm as 1/2 the tds1 meter reading? This has been verified >> by other testing if memory serves. >> Please clarify if possible. Thanks...RONjb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tds1 use
Sparrow; Like I said you canget any ppm you want with a TDS1. Robert Scharbach wrote: > A higher ppm on a 2 hour batch of silver than on a 12 hour batch? > DId you do something else different? > > Sparrow > > >My tds1 came today and after calibrating checked out my CS. > > > >HVAC 2 hour batch - 26 ppm. clear, light tyndall > >HVAC drip 2 minute batch 3 ppm. clear, very light tyndall > >LVDC 12 hour batch 6 ppm, yellow, very strong tyndall > >LVDC 2 hour batch, 12 ppm clear, good (distinct) tyndall > > > >If I remember right the folks who use these to monitor their production > >figure the CS ppm as 1/2 the tds1 meter reading? This has been verified > >by other testing if memory serves. > > > >Please clarify if possible. Thanks...RONjb > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tds1 use
A higher ppm on a 2 hour batch of silver than on a 12 hour batch? DId you do something else different? Sparrow >My tds1 came today and after calibrating checked out my CS. > >HVAC 2 hour batch - 26 ppm. clear, light tyndall >HVAC drip 2 minute batch 3 ppm. clear, very light tyndall >LVDC 12 hour batch 6 ppm, yellow, very strong tyndall >LVDC 2 hour batch, 12 ppm clear, good (distinct) tyndall > >If I remember right the folks who use these to monitor their production >figure the CS ppm as 1/2 the tds1 meter reading? This has been verified >by other testing if memory serves. > >Please clarify if possible. Thanks...RONjb > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>tds1 use
My tds1 came today and after calibrating checked out my CS. HVAC 2 hour batch - 26 ppm. clear, light tyndall HVAC drip 2 minute batch 3 ppm. clear, very light tyndall LVDC 12 hour batch 6 ppm, yellow, very strong tyndall LVDC 2 hour batch, 12 ppm clear, good (distinct) tyndall If I remember right the folks who use these to monitor their production figure the CS ppm as 1/2 the tds1 meter reading? This has been verified by other testing if memory serves. Please clarify if possible. Thanks...RONjb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
TDS1
thanks list ...Problem solved... -- Peace and Health to you and may the White Light protect you Barbara and Brian in OZ VK5KBW http://www.senet.com.au/~brains/intro.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
TDS1
G'day list ...a question .. I asked some one in the states to get a TDS1 for me ...where is the best place to get it . Hanna does not show them on their web site ... -- Peace and Health to you and may the White Light protect you Barbara and Brian in OZ VK5KBW http://www.senet.com.au/~brains/intro.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
FW: FW: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
Hi, Debbie & All! We purchased our unit from Hanna Instruments, Inc. Their internet address is www.hannainst.com. They also have an 800 telephone # (800-HANNA-US). I believe that the item # that Raul has given is the one to ask for. It is DIST-WP1 which has a resolution of 1. Tell them what you are planning on using it for and that you need a resolution of 1 so that it will register very low parts per million. What you are measuring is Total Disolved Solids (TDS). Good luck! Ginny -- From: Debbie McDonald To: vzeig...@genicom.com Subject: Re: FW: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 12:18PM Hey Ginny, Can you tell me where and how much to get this device and which one I need to ask for??? Thanks, Debbie Zeigler, Virginia A. x1969 wrote: > > Thank you, Raul & Jim, for your Info. on the TDS1 tester. I just talked > to Hanna Instruments and was instructed to send my unit back and they > will replace it with the newer model that has the proper resolution for > our purposes. Hurrah! > Ginny > -- > From: Raul Vergini, MD > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... > Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 2:12AM > > I think that the problem is in the model (you can check at the Hanna > home > page: www.hannainst.com ). The TDS1 (now discontinued) has a > "resolution" > of 10ppm. The new model is the DIST-WP1 that has a resolution of 1 ppm. > In the Hanna home page you can find also a list of the distributors > outside > USA. The price of the DIST-WP1 is $46.70 (in USA). > Hope this help > Raul > > At 15.00 28/05/98 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > >-- > >> From: jein...@troi.csw.net > >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> Subject: Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1... > >> Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 > >> > > > >> > >> Ginny, > >> Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 > >> numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read > >> 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the > >> ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or > >> 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of > >> it thought, mostly distilled water. > >> Hope this helps! > >> Jim Einert, N.D. > >> > >Jim, > >I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to > no > >avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one > from US > >of A > >John in Australia > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
Raul Vergini, MD wrote: The TDS1 (now discontinued) has a "resolution" > of 10ppm. The TDS-1 has a resolution of * 1ppm * as per the spec sheet. :-) Bless youBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
John McLean wrote: > > -- > > From: jein...@troi.csw.net > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... > > Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 > > > > > > > Ginny, > > Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 > > numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read > > 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the > > ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or > > 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of > > it thought, mostly distilled water. > > Hope this helps! > > Jim Einert, N.D. > > > Jim, > I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to no > avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one from US > of A > John in Australia > > -- John, E-mail Hanna Inst. At * sa...@hannainst.com * They do have an international sales div. :-) Bless youBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
FW: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
Thank you, Raul & Jim, for your Info. on the TDS1 tester. I just talked to Hanna Instruments and was instructed to send my unit back and they will replace it with the newer model that has the proper resolution for our purposes. Hurrah! Ginny -- From: Raul Vergini, MD To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 2:12AM I think that the problem is in the model (you can check at the Hanna home page: www.hannainst.com ). The TDS1 (now discontinued) has a "resolution" of 10ppm. The new model is the DIST-WP1 that has a resolution of 1 ppm. In the Hanna home page you can find also a list of the distributors outside USA. The price of the DIST-WP1 is $46.70 (in USA). Hope this help Raul At 15.00 28/05/98 +1000, you wrote: > > >-- >> From: jein...@troi.csw.net >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... >> Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 >> > >> >> Ginny, >> Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 >> numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read >> 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the >> ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or >> 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of >> it thought, mostly distilled water. >> Hope this helps! >> Jim Einert, N.D. >> >Jim, >I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to no >avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one from US >of A >John in Australia > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
> > John: Try this phone number 03 9769 0666 > > Dean > Thanks Dean John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
John: Try this phone number 03 9769 0666 Dean -Original Message- From: John McLean [mailto:hastb...@nor.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... -- > From: jein...@troi.csw.net > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... > Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 > > > Ginny, > Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 > numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read > 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the > ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or > 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of > it thought, mostly distilled water. > Hope this helps! > Jim Einert, N.D. > Jim, I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to no avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one from US of A John in Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
I think that the problem is in the model (you can check at the Hanna home page: www.hannainst.com ). The TDS1 (now discontinued) has a "resolution" of 10ppm. The new model is the DIST-WP1 that has a resolution of 1 ppm. In the Hanna home page you can find also a list of the distributors outside USA. The price of the DIST-WP1 is $46.70 (in USA). Hope this help Raul At 15.00 28/05/98 +1000, you wrote: > > >-- >> From: jein...@troi.csw.net >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... >> Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 >> > >> >> Ginny, >> Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 >> numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read >> 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the >> ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or >> 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of >> it thought, mostly distilled water. >> Hope this helps! >> Jim Einert, N.D. >> >Jim, >I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to no >avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one from US >of A >John in Australia > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
-- > From: jein...@troi.csw.net > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... > Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 > > > Ginny, > Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 > numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read > 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the > ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or > 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of > it thought, mostly distilled water. > Hope this helps! > Jim Einert, N.D. > Jim, I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to no avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one from US of A John in Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
> From: "Zeigler, Virginia A. x1969" > To:"'Silver user's newsgroup'" > Subject: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... > Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 08:24:00 -0400 > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Hi, Bruce & All! > We also have purchased and are using the TDS1 from Hanna Instruments. > We haven't yet figured out how you can get readings as "fine tuned" as > 23 ppm or 13 ppm. Our readings go from "0" to "1" to "2" without > anything in between. When our CS was a light golden yellow it > registered a "1" and when it was a deeper golden yellow it still read > "1". We are multiplying these values by ten to arrive at the 10 ppm and > assume that both of our batches are somewhere between 10 & 20 ppm I > know that the second batch of CS was much stronger than the first, but > our reading didn't change. What do we need to do in order to get the > finer reading? ( We have the callibration packets and are using them.) > Any enlightenment would be much appreciated! > Thanks in advance. > Ginny Ginny, Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of it thought, mostly distilled water. Hope this helps! Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
Zeigler, Virginia A. x1969 wrote: > > Hi, Bruce & All! > We also have purchased and are using the TDS1 from Hanna Instruments. > We haven't yet figured out how you can get readings as "fine tuned" as > 23 ppm or 13 ppm. Our readings go from "0" to "1" to "2" without > anything in between. When our CS was a light golden yellow it > registered a "1" and when it was a deeper golden yellow it still read > "1". We are multiplying these values by ten to arrive at the 10 ppm and > assume that both of our batches are somewhere between 10 & 20 ppm I > know that the second batch of CS was much stronger than the first, but > our reading didn't change. What do we need to do in order to get the > finer reading? ( We have the callibration packets and are using them.) > Any enlightenment would be much appreciated! > Thanks in advance. > Ginny > -- Ginny, the TDS1 should be reading directly; my best brand of distilled water reads 000 , another reads 001 on the display. My well water in the mountains of CO reads 217 ; My CS reads 020 when the batch is run to 8mA at 15 Volts, as described on my website; (depends on electrode geometry, but very reproducable.) What does your tap water test? does the test / callibration fluid test /read out as it says it should? Bruce K. Stenusson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
Hi, Bruce & All! We also have purchased and are using the TDS1 from Hanna Instruments. We haven't yet figured out how you can get readings as "fine tuned" as 23 ppm or 13 ppm. Our readings go from "0" to "1" to "2" without anything in between. When our CS was a light golden yellow it registered a "1" and when it was a deeper golden yellow it still read "1". We are multiplying these values by ten to arrive at the 10 ppm and assume that both of our batches are somewhere between 10 & 20 ppm I know that the second batch of CS was much stronger than the first, but our reading didn't change. What do we need to do in order to get the finer reading? ( We have the callibration packets and are using them.) Any enlightenment would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance. Ginny -- From: jein...@troi.csw.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: More technical questions. Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 3:21PM > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:10:52 -0500 > From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > The Hanna Instruments TDS1 is inexpensive and consistant; it adjusts for > temperature, too. > > By the way, a friend brought by a gallon of Sure- Fine "Distilled > water", bottled in Amarillo, TX, which was doing 'strange things' - > whiteish cloudyness in CS generating process... Tested 17ppm of > something = badly contaminated distilled water... probably tells us we > may not be able to trust the labels of all store bought water... if you > find a brand that tests 0 to 1 ppm with the TDS1, stick with it. I used a Hanna TDS1 to check some Sure-Fine "Distilled Water', bottled in Little Rock, AR, and it tested at 23ppm. I switched brands bought at the same store, and got distilled water at 1ppm. So it ain't all the same folks!!! Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Thanks list received several mails about the TDS1 and Hanna ..with an url to Hanna I find they have a branch here in OZ so I have emailed them already and will await their reply with baited breath ... who knows what may happen -- Brian in OZ VK5KBW http://www.senet.com.au/~brains/intro.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
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G'day list now can someone tell me or confirm the brandname of the TDS1 is it HAINA or something like that ... -- Brian in OZ VK5KBW http://www.senet.com.au/~brains/intro.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
