Re: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread Ingo Brunberg
I could not have said this better myself.

Ingo

 BPropfind allows you to arbitrarily specify resources that you want to do a
 propfind on. If all your resources are within a folder, then you can always
 vary the depth value to get all the information (and perhaps more).
 Microsoft is as usual trying to hijack the standard by introducing its own
 extensions (another extension is the brief: header). Given that they were a
 member of the RFC, it is despicable that they would knowingly introduce junk
 extensions like this. Its their typical arrogant way of working and I say
 that Slide should NEVER EVER support these M$ extensions.
 
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 Subject: Re: class for BpropFindMethod
 
 
  So you mean, this class is not Implemented. But i feel this is
  necessary because I found that is much faster. There is no need  to
  send the requests multiple times to server. With single BROPFIND
  method request I can get more than one response information which
  increase the performance of client application.
 
  Thanks Suhdakar
 
 
  On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:54:06 +0100, Miguel Figueiredo
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   That's interesting... don't remember about BPROPFIND in RFC 2518.
  
   ___
  
  
  
   Hello All,
  
   I have found slide has support for PROPFIND method. Just looking at
   the class that supports BPROPFIND method.
  
   What is the class I need to use. Or I need to write my own class
  
   I found the procedure to send the request to server regarding BROPFIND
   method here
  
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/e2k3/e2k3/_
   webdav_bpropfind.asp
  
   Thanks  Best Regards
   Sudhakar
  
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Re: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread Julian Reschke
kranga wrote:
BPropfind allows you to arbitrarily specify resources that you want to do a
propfind on. If all your resources are within a folder, then you can always
vary the depth value to get all the information (and perhaps more).
Microsoft is as usual trying to hijack the standard by introducing its own
extensions (another extension is the brief: header). Given that they were a
member of the RFC, it is despicable that they would knowingly introduce junk
extensions like this. Its their typical arrogant way of working and I say
that Slide should NEVER EVER support these M$ extensions.
I find that criticism a bit hard, although I'm certainly not a fan of 
Microsoft.

1) Extending HTTP/WebDAV with new headers, properties and methods is 
fine; this is supposed to be done if you need something and there's no 
standard for it. (*)

2) In *this* case, the methods are indeed *documented* by Microsoft in a 
public place (although it seems to me that actually implementing them in 
a non-MS product will also require guessworking and reverse-engineering).

3) In contrast, adding extensions and *not* documenting them is an 
extremely bad thing; see for instance Microsoft Sharepoint's way of 
breaking WebDAV.

Best regards, Julian
(*) Of course this means that things should be done right; for instance, 
when adding new identifiers to IETF-controlled namespaces (such as 
method names or headers), they should be registered at least though an 
Informational or Experimental RFC.

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Re: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread IndianAtTech
Miguel Wrote:

I don't know if Slide is supporting this MS webdav extension, but if
I remember correctly someone said that slide was trying to be MS-compatible.



kranga wrote:
Its their typical arrogant way of working and I say
that Slide should NEVER EVER support these M$ extensions.


Which is true??. Just confused

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RE: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread Miguel Figueiredo


Hia folks,

 Again, don't remember correctly in witch context someone said that slide
would try to be MS-Compatible. At least I believe they meant
MS-interoperable.

 Also, I too agree with Julian and you folks. What's the point in supporting
MS extensions if they can change it over night? Worse! Poorly written and
bug-enabled!
 That's the strength in industry standards, in witch we should depend: only
the best thinkers contribute to a standard, making it mature. Also, a
standard is used by everyone, not just by one big company, improving
interoperability and reusability.

 I don't like monopolist entities, but Microsoft as cool products, really
productive tools when .net came our way. Wouldn't mind programming .net if
they would continue to support standards as they seemed to do these last
years: but these Microsoft 'standard' extensions make me feel like I belong
in the open source community, and that there will be a never ending fight
between them and us, despite how cool their tools look like.


 Best regards,
 Miguel



IndianAtTech wrote:
 Miguel Wrote:
 
 I don't know if Slide is supporting this MS webdav extension, but if
 I remember correctly someone said that slide was trying to be
MS-compatible.

What's the definition of MS-compatible? Which MS product? And how 
compatible? In that it's interoperating, or so that it supports 
MS-specific extensions?

 kranga wrote:
 Its their typical arrogant way of working and I say
 that Slide should NEVER EVER support these M$ extensions.

I'd say that if Slide wants to support MS extensions, it would make 
sense to document them in an IETF document (after community review).

  ...

Julian


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Re: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread IndianAtTech
Hello All,

Actually the reason to ask this question is we got a project related
to JavaClient-MS Exchange Server Communication. After thorough
investigation we find BPROPFIND as fast solution in our case

One good thing is by extending PROPFIND class we are able to develop a
class for BPROPFIND METHOD.

Some people who loves/likes both MS products/Open Standards faces some
problems. As MS products may try to hijak some of functionalities from
open standards. In such scenarios Java (Open Source API always will be
developed on Open standards) to MS products communication may be
complicated.

Anyhow we can leave this to slide developers as they know what to do
and what not.

Thanks for helping to all of you guys

Regards
Sudhakar

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Re: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
[Disclaimer: I am an MS fan]
I'd rather say, MS saw the need for further methods like the BPropfind 
and saw that making this the standard would them *literally* take years. 
 Judging from the WebDAV lists I think Julian has a better idea how 
long it takes and how much hassle it is to get out the WebDAV standard ;)

Isn't it just like the SQL thing: Oracle wants this and that and starts 
by doing it. IBM wants that and this and starts doing it. *Later on* 
people discuss what will be a the standard, but both Oracle and IBM have 
their extended functionality right away.

Bottom line: If Sudhakar manages to write something like a BPROPFIND 
method and wants to contribute it to Slide I would be +1 for doing so.

Oliver
Julian Reschke wrote:
kranga wrote:
BPropfind allows you to arbitrarily specify resources that you want to 
do a
propfind on. If all your resources are within a folder, then you can 
always
vary the depth value to get all the information (and perhaps more).
Microsoft is as usual trying to hijack the standard by introducing its 
own
extensions (another extension is the brief: header). Given that they 
were a
member of the RFC, it is despicable that they would knowingly 
introduce junk
extensions like this. Its their typical arrogant way of working and I say
that Slide should NEVER EVER support these M$ extensions.

I find that criticism a bit hard, although I'm certainly not a fan of 
Microsoft.

1) Extending HTTP/WebDAV with new headers, properties and methods is 
fine; this is supposed to be done if you need something and there's no 
standard for it. (*)

2) In *this* case, the methods are indeed *documented* by Microsoft in a 
public place (although it seems to me that actually implementing them in 
a non-MS product will also require guessworking and reverse-engineering).

3) In contrast, adding extensions and *not* documenting them is an 
extremely bad thing; see for instance Microsoft Sharepoint's way of 
breaking WebDAV.

Best regards, Julian
(*) Of course this means that things should be done right; for instance, 
when adding new identifiers to IETF-controlled namespaces (such as 
method names or headers), they should be registered at least though an 
Informational or Experimental RFC.


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Re: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread Stefan Lützkendorf
I wouldn't say NEVER EVER.
I would say, if there is somebody who implements that, provides
test cases and documentation this (an IETF document would be nice, but
takes time) we can add this to slide. That the users of slide - responsable
for its self - has to determine whether to use it or not.
Actually slide contains always some MS extenstions:
1st external transaction which I found very usefull I my current project
and 2nd subscriptions.
For BPROPFIND I can imagine it may reduce the number of webdav request-response
pair, and so may improve performance.
Stefan
kranga wrote:
BPropfind allows you to arbitrarily specify resources that you want to do a
propfind on. If all your resources are within a folder, then you can always
vary the depth value to get all the information (and perhaps more).
Microsoft is as usual trying to hijack the standard by introducing its own
extensions (another extension is the brief: header). Given that they were a
member of the RFC, it is despicable that they would knowingly introduce junk
extensions like this. Its their typical arrogant way of working and I say
that Slide should NEVER EVER support these M$ extensions.
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Subject: Re: class for BpropFindMethod


So you mean, this class is not Implemented. But i feel this is
necessary because I found that is much faster. There is no need  to
send the requests multiple times to server. With single BROPFIND
method request I can get more than one response information which
increase the performance of client application.
Thanks Suhdakar
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:54:06 +0100, Miguel Figueiredo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's interesting... don't remember about BPROPFIND in RFC 2518.
___

Hello All,
I have found slide has support for PROPFIND method. Just looking at
the class that supports BPROPFIND method.
What is the class I need to use. Or I need to write my own class
I found the procedure to send the request to server regarding BROPFIND
method here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/e2k3/e2k3/_
webdav_bpropfind.asp
Thanks  Best Regards
Sudhakar
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Versioning - Rolling back to a previous version of a Node

2004-10-01 Thread Andy Bowes
Hi Guys,

I am trying to find a way to programmatically (i.e. via the Slide kernal API
) roll back to a previous version of a Node.

What I am trying to do is basically the following:

1.  Create Node (revision no 1)
2.  Update Node (revision no 2)
3.  Update Node (revision no 3)
4.  Update Node (revision no 4)
5.  Update Node (revision no 5)
6.  Rollback to revision no 3 (i.e. discard modifications in revisions 4 
5)

I thought that I would be able to acheive this via the
org.apache.slide.content.NodeRevisionDescriptors class as it has a
setLatestRevision() method however this only has package level visibility so
I can't invoke it from my classes.  Is there any other way to perform this
operation ?

Thanks

Andy Bowes

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Re: JDBC stores

2004-10-01 Thread Unico Hommes
Miguel Figueiredo wrote:
Hello folks,
I got another weird problem...
I was experimenting with JDBC stores, more explicitly with the mySql one.
In attach I'm sending my domain.xml file. It is also getting the
authentication info from a ldap server, to witch I configured two
JNDIPrincipalStore, each of witch with a corresponding mySql store for
locking and security purposes: the mySql databases are called slideustore
for users and sliderstore for roles.
For content store I've also created a mySql store, being the mySql database
named slidecstore.
 

There was a bug in the way JDBCStore sets up connection pooling with 
commons dbcp. This resulted in every dbcp-enabled store to use exactly 
the same connection pool and thus database. I just committed the fix to 
both HEAD and 2.1 branch.

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RE: If ACL-inh=root, why cant user authenticate ?

2004-10-01 Thread Nick Longinow
I figured this out, to the extent that I keep the inheritance as described,
but when I create a collection that must be invisible to /roles/user, I just
change the Ace for that principal on that new collection to 'negative=true',
execute an aclMethod with the new Ace array, and presto, elements of
/roles/user are not able to access the resource.

But, but, but, I still want /roles/root to be able to access the resource
(for admin purposes).  However, since root is a member of /roles/user, now
root is excluded by the action just described above.
Is there a way to exclude /roles/user and still allow /roles/root access ?  
The Dav spec, or Slide documentation, says that in the case of a conflicting
permission (as here, where /roles/root has DAV:all and /roles/user has none)
we end up with the /roles/user taking precedence (apparently).  

-Original Message-
From: Nick Longinow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Slide Users Mailing List'
Subject: If ACL-inh=root, why cant user authenticate ?

Help with a basic Slide/Dav question ?

In domain.xml:
Set /files acl-inheritance to 'root'.
Set root permissions to allow /roles/user permission all but have that
permission be inheritable=false.

permission action=all subject=/roles/root inheritable=true/
permission action=all subject=all inheritable=false/
permission action=all subject=/roles/user inheritable=true/

Create user under /users, add a password prop, and add to /roles/user.
-- User cant login. !!

Now, Change inheritable on root permissions (above) to be true.

User can login!  I don't understand this.  I don't want to have to set the
permissions on the /roles/user to be inheritable because I am trying to
limit the access of the principal /roles/user to deeper branch nodes, and
only grant access to other principals, but if this inheritance is set to
true, then collections constructed down the line from /files will get this
permission, which I don't want it to have (and you cant remove it from that
deeper collection node...)


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[Newbie] Slide performance and scalability

2004-10-01 Thread csev
I am working with a large open source project to build a learning management
system (www.sakaiproject.org) - we need a content system.  I have been tracking
Slide over the past several years.  I have used it in several projects and would
like to adopt it for Sakai, but Sakai has some pretty high performance needs.

As an example, Indiana University will run a site with 100,000 users and
10Million hits per day.  I am wondering if there are some high perfomance
installations of Slide that operate in that kind of environment.  Feel free to
drop me a direct e-Mail with a short summary of your installation.

I really would like to use Slide because of its rich feature set and the fact
that it is open source, but I am nervous about being the largest Slide
installation on the planet and the fun that entails...  Some of the people on
the project would prefer to roll our own content management system with
simpler semantics than Slide but then something that we can tune for
performance and scalability as needed.

Thanks in advance.

Charles Severance
Chief Architect, Sakai Project
University of Michigan

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External Transaction (as defined by MS) problem

2004-10-01 Thread L Z
Hello slide users,

I am using slide 2.1b1 server and client.
I tried to use the external transaction feature in the
following way:

init a WebdavResource 
startTransaction();
mkcolMethod(); (create a new collection)
proppatchMethod(); (on the newly created collection)
putMethod(); (put a new file in the newly created
collection)
commitTransaction();

everything works fine, the resources are created when
i call the commitTransaction() but after this i am not
able to create a new WebdavResource() object. I
debugged it and i figured out that when the first
PROPFIND method is issued (to get the basic
properties) the server won't respond.
It also don't works if i restart the client. I had to
restart the server then it works. 

Can somebody help me, please?

Thank you,
Zoltan.



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Re: [Newbie] Slide performance and scalability

2004-10-01 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Hi Charles,
I have no experience with installations that have requirements similar 
to yours. What I can tell you, however, is that it is most likely less 
work and more promissing to be successful to help tune *Slide* for 
better performance and scalability than to build something from scratch. 
Additionally, there are a lot of motivated people trying to bring Slide 
forward. You could benefit from this and help as well. I understand 
building something from scratch can be much more fun in the initial 
phase, but when it comes to the tough parts, I'd say you'd be much 
better of with Slide.

Just my - naturally biased - view.
Oliver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
I am working with a large open source project to build a learning management
system (www.sakaiproject.org) - we need a content system.  I have been tracking
Slide over the past several years.  I have used it in several projects and would
like to adopt it for Sakai, but Sakai has some pretty high performance needs.
As an example, Indiana University will run a site with 100,000 users and
10Million hits per day.  I am wondering if there are some high perfomance
installations of Slide that operate in that kind of environment.  Feel free to
drop me a direct e-Mail with a short summary of your installation.
I really would like to use Slide because of its rich feature set and the fact
that it is open source, but I am nervous about being the largest Slide
installation on the planet and the fun that entails...  Some of the people on
the project would prefer to roll our own content management system with
simpler semantics than Slide but then something that we can tune for
performance and scalability as needed.
Thanks in advance.
Charles Severance
Chief Architect, Sakai Project
University of Michigan
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Re: External Transaction (as defined by MS) problem

2004-10-01 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Hi Zoltan,
it is pretty hard to tell what is actually going on without seeing the 
code. I however suspect the PROPFIND is done on a resource that is still 
locked by another transaction that has not been committed or rolled 
back. As this is on the server side it is of no use to restart the 
client. Try to have something like a commit/rollback in finally blocks 
to make very sure all transactions are properly terminated.

By the way, what is the underlying persistence store? Depending on this 
there are different ways to find out what locks are on what resources. 
Note that Slide does no additional locking when running external 
transactions.

Hope this helps otherwise please show us the code,
Oliver
L Z schrieb:
Hello slide users,
I am using slide 2.1b1 server and client.
I tried to use the external transaction feature in the
following way:
init a WebdavResource 
startTransaction();
mkcolMethod(); (create a new collection)
proppatchMethod(); (on the newly created collection)
putMethod(); (put a new file in the newly created
collection)
commitTransaction();

everything works fine, the resources are created when
i call the commitTransaction() but after this i am not
able to create a new WebdavResource() object. I
debugged it and i figured out that when the first
PROPFIND method is issued (to get the basic
properties) the server won't respond.
It also don't works if i restart the client. I had to
restart the server then it works. 

Can somebody help me, please?
Thank you,
Zoltan.

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RE: [newbie] properties to files

2004-10-01 Thread Darren Hartford
Update:
For adding properties, using this code:
=
boolean prop = wdr.proppatchMethod(/slide/files/test3.tif,new PropertyName(DAV:, 
mykey),myvalue,true);
=

Still looking for assistance on how to get all files that have property 'mykey' = 
'myvalue'.

-D

 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Hartford 
 Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:44 PM
 To: Slide Users Mailing List
 Subject: [newbie] properties to files
 
 
 Hey all,
 Going through the learning curve on Slide and on the WebDAV 
 client api/library.
 
 I can successfully 'put' and 'get' binary files.
 
 However, I'm having a hard time understanding how to add 
 properties to files for use in searching (and I'll ask now, 
 how to search on a property). 
 
 I'm guessing it is something with the 'proppatchmethod' 
 method(s), but can't find any good examples on how to use 
 these methods (and, in the same token, the propfindmethods).
 
 Any examples please?
 
 
 my code to-date:
 ===
   WebdavResource wdr = null;
   HttpURL hrl =
   new 
 HttpURL(http://localhost:8080/slide/files;);
   hrl.setUserinfo(root,root);
   wdr = new WebdavResource(hrl);
   
   if(wdr==null) {
   System.out.println(WDR creation failed);
   }
   
   //use root-based dir structure. Windows 
 drive names cause issues (assume with colons)
   String filename = /test3.tif;
   File fn = new File(filename);
   System.out.println(can read file?  + 
 fn.canRead());
   boolean writebol = wdr.putMethod(fn);
 
   //directory-type listing
 String arr[] = wdr.list();
 int i=arr.length;
 while( --i = 0 ) {
   System.out.println( [+i+] +arr[ i  ] );
 }
 ===
 
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acl_inheritance_type=none, root cant login

2004-10-01 Thread Nick Longinow
If you configure domain.xml, with Tomcat, out of the box, so that

acl_inheritance_type is set to 'none', then the user 'root'

will not be able to authenticate to http://localhost:8080/slide.

 

If you set it to 'root' or 'path' then the login will succeed.

 

Any ideas why ?

 

Nick



RE: ACL - how to prevent browsing into a collection ?

2004-10-01 Thread Nick Longinow
Miguel

This is a good idea.  It works, but then both members of the /roles/user and
the root account can not access the resource, since root is a member of
/roles/user.  
I will try to do this with acl_inheritance turned off, so I can set my own
principals (groups) into the acl.

Nick

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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:59 AM
To: 'Slide Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: ACL - how to prevent browsing into a collection ?



Hello Nick,

 By default, a collection does not have any ACL definitions upon creation.
The ones you are obtaining are the inherited ones. So changing an inherited
ACL doesn't feel right for me. Perhaps slide mandates that to change an ACL,
you must act upon the right resource (collection in this case).

 I would try this approach: get a WebdavResource instance of the 'folder'
collection, and execute the AclMethod adding your read-deny ACE, for the
right Principals (i.e. /roles/users/). If you are using root account, don't
forget that root also makes part of the /roles/root/ Principal.

 Hope this helps,
 Miguel Figueiredo
 
_
Hi

 

I want to prevent users from browsing into a collection (folder) that
contains

documents, and so am trying to adjust the ACL for the collection.

My method is to retrieve the ACL for the collection and then set the

'negative' property to true (deny), where it had been false by default.

 

But, I can still login to the repository as a /roles/user member and see
things,

in fact, delete elements of the collection.

 

What am I doing wrong ?

 

Nick



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Re: class for BpropFindMethod

2004-10-01 Thread IndianAtTech
That's noting special  about it

We just change the code generateRequestBody()


printer.writeElement(D, target, XMLPrinter.OPENING);
for (int i = 0; i  urllist.length; i++) {

  String targetURL = urllist[i].toString();
  printer.writeElement(D, href, XMLPrinter.OPENING);
  printer.writeText(targetURL);
  printer.writeElement(D, href, XMLPrinter.CLOSING);
}
printer.writeElement(D, target, XMLPrinter.CLOSING);

This above code snippet allows us to get the multiple responses

urllist is a string array that was passed to a constructor



Here is the full body

protected String generateRequestBody() {

XMLPrinter printer = new XMLPrinter();
printer.writeXMLHeader();
printer.writeElement(D, DAV:, propfind, XMLPrinter.OPENING);

printer.writeElement(D, target, XMLPrinter.OPENING);
for (int i = 0; i  urllist.length; i++) {

  String targetURL = urllist[i].toString();
  printer.writeElement(D, href, XMLPrinter.OPENING);
  printer.writeText(targetURL);
  printer.writeElement(D, href, XMLPrinter.CLOSING);
}
printer.writeElement(D, target, XMLPrinter.CLOSING);

switch (type) {
  case ALL:
printer.writeElement(D, allprop, XMLPrinter.NO_CONTENT);
break;
  case NAMES:
printer.writeElement(D, propname, XMLPrinter.NO_CONTENT);
break;
  case BY_NAME:
printer.writeElement(D, prop, XMLPrinter.OPENING);
for (int i = 0; i  propertyNames.length; i++) {
  String namespace = propertyNames[i].getNamespaceURI();
  String localname = propertyNames[i].getLocalName();
  if (DAV:.equals(namespace)) {
printer.writeElement(D, localname, XMLPrinter.NO_CONTENT);
  }
  else {
if (namespace.length()  0) {
  printer.writeElement(ZZ, namespace, localname,
   XMLPrinter.NO_CONTENT);
}
else {
  printer.writeElement(null, null, localname,
   XMLPrinter.NO_CONTENT);
}
  }
}
printer.writeElement(D, prop, XMLPrinter.CLOSING);
break;
}

printer.writeElement(D, propfind, XMLPrinter.CLOSING);

return printer.toString();
  }

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