Re: [SLUG] linux.conf.au discounts
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 04:22:23PM +1100, Paul Haddon wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 03:50:55PM +1100, Conrad Parker wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:22:36PM -0400, Minh Van wrote: > > > i want to join slug so i can get a discount to linux.conf.au. :) who do i > > > contact ? > > > > :) > > > > The treasurer (John Haesan, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or you can join at the > > next meeting (this friday), or you can join online via > > everythinglinux.com.au. > > Speaking of LUG discounts, will discounted registrations be accepted > at the next 3 SLUG meetings? You mean for the conference? We are finialising details of that in the next few days. Hopefully we can reveal all (the details!) at the meeting on Friday. Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SLUG vs Snail (was: ozemail problems.)
> James Wilkinson wrote: > > There's a nudie branch of SLUG? Is it anything like the MacLUG? :) So *that's* why the webcam is pointed to the sky on MacLUG days... ;) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] /tmp is not preserved over reboots
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Jill Rowling wrote: well, on alot of solaris systems that i've worked with, /tmp was a ramdisk, (makes things like pop servers, nameservers etc much faster), so yes things would dissapear :) > Yes, Ken was chatting to me offline about it. > It definitely depends on the flavour of Unix (and local variations) as to > what happens. > I managed to embarrass myself (only so slightly and on another Unix) by > copying something to /tmp and then rebooted... zappo! > I then thought... is there any standard? > On the RH Linux at work here, /tmp is just part of / so would not normally > get cleared out except for the odd cron job. > What happens if you set up a machine that dual boots solaris and Linux? This > is probably why the FAQ says that the temp filesystems of the two os's are > incompatible. However it can be done, albeit carefully. > > - Jill. > > ___ > Jill Rowling > Snr Design Engineer & Unix System Administrator > Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies Australia > 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 > Phone:(02) 9697-4484 Fax:(02) 9663-1412 > Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: Stuart Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > By "swapspace mounted as /tmp" I think Jill is referring to a system where > you have the same disk space available as both Unix file system space and > swap > space. Swap space contains memory information for processes and it doesn't > make sense for any of it to be preserved across reboots as all the processes > have died and restarted. Disk space you do want preserved across reboots, > but many systems clean out /tmp on startup. This is one of those > behaviours that can change from Linux to Linux, let alone Linux to > commercial flavours of Unix. > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug > --- Leon StrongCorporate Network Services Pacific Internet (Australia) Pty Ltd Phone: +6102 9253 5742 Fax: +6102 9247 5276 http://www.pacific.net.au NASDAQ: PCNTF --- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SLUG vs Snail (was: ozemail problems.)
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Jill Rowling generated: >I always thought it was supposed to be a nudibranch There's a nudie branch of SLUG? Is it anything like the MacLUG? :) -- jamesw (o_ //\ v_/_ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] /tmp is not preserved over reboots
Yes, Ken was chatting to me offline about it. It definitely depends on the flavour of Unix (and local variations) as to what happens. I managed to embarrass myself (only so slightly and on another Unix) by copying something to /tmp and then rebooted... zappo! I then thought... is there any standard? On the RH Linux at work here, /tmp is just part of / so would not normally get cleared out except for the odd cron job. What happens if you set up a machine that dual boots solaris and Linux? This is probably why the FAQ says that the temp filesystems of the two os's are incompatible. However it can be done, albeit carefully. - Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer & Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax:(02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stuart Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] By "swapspace mounted as /tmp" I think Jill is referring to a system where you have the same disk space available as both Unix file system space and swap space. Swap space contains memory information for processes and it doesn't make sense for any of it to be preserved across reboots as all the processes have died and restarted. Disk space you do want preserved across reboots, but many systems clean out /tmp on startup. This is one of those behaviours that can change from Linux to Linux, let alone Linux to commercial flavours of Unix. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] SLUG vs Snail (was: ozemail problems.)
SLUG vs Snail? I always thought it was supposed to be a nudibranch (sea slug) - one of those frilly things that you occasionally see in Sydney Harbour. Definitely not a snail. - Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer & Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax:(02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ken Yap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 25 September 2000 16:26 To: Andrew Macks Cc: Sydney Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems. >> Well, if you look at our logo, we don't even know the difference between >> a slug and a snail so it must be the second meaning. :-) > >Maybe we should change our name to Sydney, Nsw, Australia Involved >Linuxers? :) Charlie Brady was the first to point this out when the logo was first proposed. (Trust Charlie to spot these things.) Peter Samuel then suggested the expansion: Sydneysiders Not Afraid to Install Linux. But the attraction of the Opera House connection was too strong to change the logo. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Regeneration Problem Fixed
> Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Looks like this happened after the regeneration early this morning - it was > working great last night! :) Working fine now. It was more the unspecified path (to the URL list files) issue, as the Debian package is set up correctly. So yes, even with the best help in the world, you can still stuff things up royally. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] win4lin
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Bill Hiley wrote:
> For those of us poor souls who (occasionally of course) have to run a
> Windows program - does anyone have any experience with 'Win4Lin' and can
> offer any comparison with other products eg. Vmware, Wine etc
VMWare _rocks_. The current version is completely stable, and I love it.
I've got it installed at work - standard machines are P3/650's with 256
meg of RAM and a 15 gig HD. Running Winblows98 on these boxes resulted in
either out of resource errors, or GPF's at least daily.
I installed one box with SuSE 6.4, stuck VMWare on it, installed Winblows
under it {with all my required software}, logged into the LAN and away we
went. Now, Winblows98 is _MORE_ reliable under VMWare/Linux than it was
native! No joke. Less GPF's, and the resource problem isn;t an issue,
because I can run the program which chewed the resources under Linux,
where it doesn't use anywhere near as much.
I can't sing VMWare's praises enough. Especially since the boss paid for
it. :)
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] ircd
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Brett Esra wrote: > OK quick quiz: ? is to IRC Daemons as Apache is to Web Daemons for > 10 points. > > Sourceforge and Freshmeat bring up a lot of options and I would like to > know which is the definitive server. IRCD. Current version is somewhere around 2.9(?) from memory >From the ircd FAQ. 4.Where can I get IRCD? 1.ftp://ftp.irc.org/irc/server 2.ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/irc/server 3.ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/pub/irc 4.ftp://ftp.ircnet.org/pub/irc/servers/ Redhat might put it in RPM format, but I doubt it - there are too many compile time options you need to specify before compiling the server for an individual machine. You're better off grabbing the source, RTFM _LOTS_, and compiling it yourself. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] /tmp is not preserved over reboots
Just reading some documentation here... this may be obvious to some and not others. /tmp (swapspace mounted as /tmp) is not preserved across reboots. The file names may be, but the data is not. By "swapspace mounted as /tmp" I think Jill is referring to a system where you have the same disk space available as both Unix file system space and swap space. Swap space contains memory information for processes and it doesn't make sense for any of it to be preserved across reboots as all the processes have died and restarted. Disk space you do want preserved across reboots, but many systems clean out /tmp on startup. This is one of those behaviours that can change from Linux to Linux, let alone Linux to commercial flavours of Unix. Many systems, as part of their startup sequence, remove all files under /tmp. Some do this recursively (removing any subdirectories as well), some just remove the files directly underneath /tmp, some leave /tmp alone. If you're booting such a machine and think to yourself "oh no- I need that important file in /tmp" you can usually boot to single user mode and save it from there before continuing to multi-user mode. Better still, get into the habit of pronouncing tmp as 'temp' and thinking of /tmp as "temporary" and don't put important files there. /tmp is mostly useful as a well-known directory that any user process can write to. Stuart. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] win4lin
> For those of us poor souls who (occasionally of course) have to run a > Windows program - does anyone have any experience with 'Win4Lin' and can > offer any comparison with other products eg. Vmware, Wine etc I've used Win4Lin, and wine, but i have no experience with vmware. What apps did you need to run ? Win4Lin is easy to install ( apart from a kernel patch), and it runs really well. Last version iplayed with didn;t do sound, directX or WfWG networking. Wine does do direct X, and sound, and by extension games :) But for general use, i found win4lin to work better. However win4lin does require a windows license to use, and you effectivly run windows next to linux, so you are actually running windows. Wine doesn't require a copy of windows to work. Try wine, if it works problem solved, if it doens't then try win4lin. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] ircd
Slug Buddies, Hope the weekend was good! OK quick quiz: ? is to IRC Daemons as Apache is to Web Daemons for 10 points. Sourceforge and Freshmeat bring up a lot of options and I would like to know which is the definitive server. Many thanks in advance Brett PS One with an RPM would be good, I am getting a little lazy in my old age :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] CD Burners vs CDROMs
/me remembers the days of 'bit-copying' a disk.. bit by bit, sector per sector, track by track, etc... through our own bit of asm (through dos debug) or if we were lucky enough C. Even if the program was 15Kb (mid 80's) the whole disk would be copied in its entirety... Hence we could have our own 'backups' on the likes of pitstop (which boot strapped the PC into the game)... Upon viewing the disk on the normal OS (Dos back then for me) the disk was blank... I think the Technolohy then was called 'boot holes', and 'laser holes' where, as Jill said, the manufacturers would put a special type of error on the disks... >From: Jason Rennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Is there a way to convince dd to copy the disk bad secotry and all ? Not without severely modifying the hardware, getting in at the analog level. >Also why would that stop a cdburner from even seeing a disk in there ? If the bad sector is in the disk header, or as was suggested, a dirty lens. Otherwise, I don't know. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
>> Well, if you look at our logo, we don't even know the difference between >> a slug and a snail so it must be the second meaning. :-) > >Maybe we should change our name to Sydney, Nsw, Australia Involved >Linuxers? :) Charlie Brady was the first to point this out when the logo was first proposed. (Trust Charlie to spot these things.) Peter Samuel then suggested the expansion: Sydneysiders Not Afraid to Install Linux. But the attraction of the Opera House connection was too strong to change the logo. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] win4lin
For those of us poor souls who (occasionally of course) have to run a Windows program - does anyone have any experience with 'Win4Lin' and can offer any comparison with other products eg. Vmware, Wine etc Thanks - Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux.conf.au discounts
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 03:50:55PM +1100, Conrad Parker wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:22:36PM -0400, Minh Van wrote: > > i want to join slug so i can get a discount to linux.conf.au. :) who do i > > contact ? > > :) > > The treasurer (John Haesan, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or you can join at the > next meeting (this friday), or you can join online via > everythinglinux.com.au. Speaking of LUG discounts, will discounted registrations be accepted at the next 3 SLUG meetings? Cheers Paul Haddon Technical Services Manager Hartingdale Internet -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Ken Yap wrote: > >>Yes, but that could be SLUG as sluggish, or SLUG as in pow! > > > > maybe to some, but i personally see it as a slug, for an example, goto > >www.openldap.org :) > > Well, if you look at our logo, we don't even know the difference between > a slug and a snail so it must be the second meaning. :-) Maybe we should change our name to Sydney, Nsw, Australia Involved Linuxers? :) Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
>>Yes, but that could be SLUG as sluggish, or SLUG as in pow! > > maybe to some, but i personally see it as a slug, for an example, goto >www.openldap.org :) Well, if you look at our logo, we don't even know the difference between a slug and a snail so it must be the second meaning. :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
>>hey we shouldn't talk, ours is SLUG afterall :) >Yes, but that could be SLUG as sluggish, or SLUG as in pow! maybe to some, but i personally see it as a slug, for an example, goto www.openldap.org :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
>hey we shouldn't talk, ours is SLUG afterall :) Yes, but that could be SLUG as sluggish, or SLUG as in pow! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
> > > OutLook Express is not a connection protocol - it's an application. > > > > > > This is a Linux User's Group List - contact Micro$oft for this > > > kind of help, or join a Microsoft Users Group. > > > > > Yes, the Sydney Microsoft Users Group (SMUG) :) > > or MUGS, more likely ;) > > Conrad. I thought this incurred a 1 beer penalty. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
hey we shouldn't talk, ours is SLUG afterall :) --Stephen -Original Message- From: Conrad Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:53 PM To: Paul Robinson Cc: Rick Welykochy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems. On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:54:15PM +1100, Paul Robinson wrote: > Rick Welykochy wrote: > > > OutLook Express is not a connection protocol - it's an application. > > > > This is a Linux User's Group List - contact Micro$oft for this > > kind of help, or join a Microsoft Users Group. > > > Yes, the Sydney Microsoft Users Group (SMUG) :) or MUGS, more likely ;) Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
From: brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Hello, I`m after help for my daughter. >When she go`s to Outlook Xpress, the connection is broken. >She has been on to them a couple of times and still hasn`t got >it right. As this is a Linux group, I have to assume she's running OE under Wine. You'll probably find that OE under Wine is a bad idea as it depends on Internet Explorer which is really hard to get running properly. Get her to use mutt, pine or even Netscape's mail reader. They work much better under linux than Outlook Express. John Wiltshire -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:54:15PM +1100, Paul Robinson wrote: > Rick Welykochy wrote: > > > OutLook Express is not a connection protocol - it's an application. > > > > This is a Linux User's Group List - contact Micro$oft for this > > kind of help, or join a Microsoft Users Group. > > > Yes, the Sydney Microsoft Users Group (SMUG) :) or MUGS, more likely ;) Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux.conf.au discounts
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:22:36PM -0400, Minh Van wrote: > i want to join slug so i can get a discount to linux.conf.au. :) who do i > contact ? :) The treasurer (John Haesan, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or you can join at the next meeting (this friday), or you can join online via everythinglinux.com.au. see http://slug.org.au/membership.shtml for details. Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evil HD
The folling link should enlighten you: http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/ata/st5850a.html Mehmet Ozdemir > I've just come across the most evil hd I've ever discovered. It's > a segate ST5808A. 850MB Drive. > > It's got this thing called Dual Drive emulation mode which I'd > never heard of > before. appraent;ly to overcome the old 540MB limit. It sort of splits > the drive in half and > pretends to be the master and the slave drive in the system. Now the > question is if you put it > in a machine with a master drive any ideas how you tell it which side of > it's own drive you want to > view :) > > -- > John > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug > - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evil HD
John Ferlito wrote: > > I've just come across the most evil hd I've ever discovered. It's > a segate ST5808A. 850MB Drive. > > It's got this thing called Dual Drive emulation mode which I'd never heard of > before. appraent;ly to overcome the old 540MB limit. It sort of splits the drive in >half and > pretends to be the master and the slave drive in the system. Now the question is if >you put it > in a machine with a master drive any ideas how you tell it which side of it's own >drive you want to > view :) > > -- > John There should be a set of 12 pins which take jumpers on the drive. Pins 1 and 2 are shorted for the drive to act as a slave. Pins 3 and 4 are shorted if the drive is a master with a slave Pins 5 and 6 and Pins 9 and 10 are shorted for the drive to emulate a master/slave combination within itself. Pins 7 and 8 and Pins 11 and 12 are not used normally Hope this helps Stay well and happy Heracles P.S. http://www.seagate.com is a useful site. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evil HD
The folling link should enlighten you: http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/ata/st5850a.html Mehmet Ozdemir > I've just come across the most evil hd I've ever discovered. It's > a segate ST5808A. 850MB Drive. > > It's got this thing called Dual Drive emulation mode which I'd > never heard of > before. appraent;ly to overcome the old 540MB limit. It sort of splits > the drive in half and > pretends to be the master and the slave drive in the system. Now the > question is if you put it > in a machine with a master drive any ideas how you tell it which side of > it's own drive you want to > view :) > > -- > John > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug > - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Terry... Was: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
> brian wrote: > > When she go`s to Outlook Xpress, the connection is broken. > She has been on to them a couple of times and still hasn`t got it right. So Terry, what's your favourite beer? - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Regeneration Problem Fixed
> Stuart Cooper wrote: > > Doesn't work for me either. If I search for 'qmail', I'm told there are > 130 matches, it says "Documents 1-10 of 130 matches" but it doesn't display > links to them. I get the yellow "Pages" buttons on the bottom and I can > cycle between them but I don't get the links to the documents. Looks like this happened after the regeneration early this morning - it was working great last night! :) Looks like it's not set up to do a merge with the cronjob, so I'm doing that manually now. The search page should be up and running soon. There was also a small problem with paths, which was fine when manually testing it... Ahem. > Secondary bug: the first time you go to the page > http://slug.org.au/cgi-bin/htsearch > you get some guff about no matches for ''. The CGI should be doing something > else the first time on recognition of the fact that there are no parameters. That'd be htdig's problem. :) I won't be linking to that page, rather, there will be search interfaces on the main site. > Please get it to work because at the moment it is a bit lame. The phrase I'm after is 'bite me', isn't it? ;) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] /tmp is not preserved over reboots
Hi all, Just reading some documentation here... this may be obvious to some and not others. /tmp (swapspace mounted as /tmp) is not preserved across reboots. The file names may be, but the data is not. Regards, Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer & Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax:(02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
> Terry Collins wrote: > > aaarh - if it says MAIL INDEX or THREAD INDEX as the document, please > ignore this. > > Both Jeff & I forgot to exclude these documents from the database. Sadly, it wasn't a matter of forgetting - it's a limitation of htdig. Whilst It doesn't do regexp matching to define the documents included in the database, so for the moment we'll have to live with it. Regexp matching will be magically appearing in a new version soon. ;) There's a lot of other stuff excluded though! - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SPAM prevention to bcc addresses?
> Richard Ames wrote: > > I am getting increasing amounts of SPAM and would like to implement a simple > sendmail rule that rejects all mail not addressed in the To: or Cc: fields > to a user on my smtp server. I highly recommend having a look at Tom Gilbert's .procmailrc file. It's the most anal-retentive, anti-spam .procmailrc I've ever read. In fact, it's quite a funny read (if you're into those sorts of things). http://www.linuxbrit.co.uk/ (Which, ironically, is hosted in the US) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] linux.conf.au discounts
i want to join slug so i can get a discount to linux.conf.au. :) who do i contact ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] User-owned mounts
>Give FAT a break, Ken, it was designed to run as a simple single >user system on a 360K floppy. Perfect security if you keep the >floppy locked away ;-) >It is just the inappropriate extension of its use to more >sophisticated systems that is the problem. Sure, I know all that too. What do you expect of a single user OS? Then again, even CP/M had user areas¸ though they weren't full-fledged uids. The Tandy 6000 had Xenix and multi-user. And Xenix for the Tandy was, shock horror, from M$. How hard can it be? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
Rick Welykochy wrote: > OutLook Express is not a connection protocol - it's an application. > > This is a Linux User's Group List - contact Micro$oft for this > kind of help, or join a Microsoft Users Group. > Yes, the Sydney Microsoft Users Group (SMUG) :) Paul > > -- > Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services > > -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] qmail and bulk mail
>i want to send the same message to many ppl. i wanted to test this by >echo "This is a test" | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -fdougb-sender@host1 $s >from host2 and where $s is "dougb-1@host1 dougb-2@host1 ... dougb-2500@host1" >now. qmail tries to send to all aliases at once through a seperate smtp >connection. how do i stop this to force it to send it through the one >connection? >the logs have >deferral: Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1) >all the way through it. afaik this is how smtp should work, qmail will execute qmail-remote to send each email to its remote host, even though its to the same host. from memory qmail has a concurrency limit of 20 seperate connections set by default, create a file concurrencyremote in control directory and put a numeric value to represent max smtp connects outgoing. you might want to just try one email to make sure your system/dns is working /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject dougb-@host1 man qmail-send for more info Stephen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] User-owned mounts
Ken Yap wrote: Except for > stupid FS like FAT which have to have ownership faked. Give FAT a break, Ken, it was designed to run as a simple single user system on a 360K floppy. Perfect security if you keep the floppy locked away ;-) It is just the inappropriate extension of its use to more sophisticated systems that is the problem. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] qmail and bulk mail
>i want to send the same message to many ppl. i wanted to test this by > >echo "This is a test" | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -fdougb-sender@host1 $s > >from host2 and where $s is "dougb-1@host1 dougb-2@host1 ... dougb-2500@host1" > >now. qmail tries to send to all aliases at once through a seperate smtp >connection. how do i stop this to force it to send it through the one >connection? > >the logs have >deferral: Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1) >all the way through it. > >can anyone help? Depends on what you want to do. If you want to prevent qmail from flooding the forwarding host, the control file to create is /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote which holds a number indicating the number of simultaneous connections to the forwarding host that you allow. If you want it to send just one email to several recipients at the same destination, then it's another MTA you want. I won't go into the debate about this. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] qmail and bulk mail
i want to send the same message to many ppl. i wanted to test this by echo "This is a test" | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -fdougb-sender@host1 $s from host2 and where $s is "dougb-1@host1 dougb-2@host1 ... dougb-2500@host1" now. qmail tries to send to all aliases at once through a seperate smtp connection. how do i stop this to force it to send it through the one connection? the logs have deferral: Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1) all the way through it. can anyone help? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
slug@slug.org.au
Hi, Did the list receive an email with the above subject appearing to be from me today?? if not, did anyone else receive an emai with the subject??? regards Alister -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Evil HD
I've just come across the most evil hd I've ever discovered. It's a segate ST5808A. 850MB Drive. It's got this thing called Dual Drive emulation mode which I'd never heard of before. appraent;ly to overcome the old 540MB limit. It sort of splits the drive in half and pretends to be the master and the slave drive in the system. Now the question is if you put it in a machine with a master drive any ideas how you tell it which side of it's own drive you want to view :) -- John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Understanding mail headers....
>unfortunately a lot of good stuff is BCC'd... correct me if i'm wrong but >a lot of mailing lists use BCC to hide all the recipients and your email >is almost never in the To or CC Well strictly speaking you don't know if it's Bcc'ed since cc implies there is a primary recipient. But it's almost always the case that the spam victim's address doesn't appear in the To: or Cc: line, just in the envelope address. You just have to make sure not to filter out mailing list traffic too. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Understanding mail headers....
> It originated on a dialup connection to dialsprint, therefore they can't > block it without killing all access to that port. but dialsprint should have an AUP that requires all mail to be relayed and therefore complainging to them should get that persons account shut down... > It was relayed through 202.96.134.136 (probably an open relay) therefore I > can't stop it by blocking connections on the DUL list > http://mail-abuse.org/dul/intro.htm. but you can submit that relay for blocking and there are three different blocking lists (dial up, open relays and companies who spam), you can pick and choose which to use... 'dial up' blocking is a no brainer, 'open relays' pretty much likewise but 'companies who spam' is one to bandy about whether you agree with the criteria set down by the guys adding (and removing) companies from that list... > It was bcc-ed to me, therefore blocking bccs will work unfortunately a lot of good stuff is BCC'd... correct me if i'm wrong but a lot of mailing lists use BCC to hide all the recipients and your email is almost never in the To or CC later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy, Pearl Jam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] gtk+ can't find -lXt
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 08:18:45AM +1100, Nick Croft wrote: > > I seemed to be missing the *.a files - so I copied them over from my RH > install on the other disk. > > gtk+ compiled OK after that, and appeared to install as well, although > when I went to make an example, gcc couldn't find gtk-config. So I > manually installed that in /usr/bin. As an aside, if you're simply trying to set up an environment to do gtk+ coding in I'd suggest you simply install the gtk+-devel package, rather than compiling from source. > Now gcc tries, but reports back: [I assume now this when compiling your own program, which links against gtk] > /usr/bin/ld cannot find -lgtk > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [buttons] Error 1 > > I can't find -lgtk either, although if that means gtk/gtk.h I've also made > sure that's in lib. > > I tried adding -L /usr/include/gtk as well as >-L /home/me/coding/gtkStuff/gtk+-1.2.8/gtk > to no effect. (The three stages of building your program are preprocessing, compiling, and linking.) /usr/include contains header files (such as ), used in preprocessing. To specify a directory to find header files in, use the -I (capital i) flag. The -L and -l (lower case L) flags apply to the linking stage. Your compilation actually gets to the linking stage (it attempts to invoke the linker (/usr/bin/ld -- invoked by gcc) which then gives the first error above) so it's not a problem with the header files. The problem is that it can't find the gtk library (it is attempting to link the precompiled code in the libraries in to your program). you need to make sure the gtk library exists (eg. in /usr/lib). Libraries have the form "*.a" for static libraries and "*.so*" for shared libraries. eg. check that /usr/lib/libgtk.a or /usr/local/lib/libgtk.a exists (depending on where you installed gtk). The flag "-lgtk" instructs the linker to try to find a file called "libgtk.a" in any of the library directories it knows about. > I've tried updatedb and ldconfig as well. updatedb is only used for the 'locate' database, which isn't used in building programs. ldconfig is used for updating links to shared libraries and priming the dynamic linker's cache. They dynamic linker (man ld.so) is used when running programs, but usually not when building them. > I may have to get dselect out again and make sure I've got various > development libs. Or go back to my rh install if I want to use gtk+. both are good ideas, but fix your gcc flags up first. Don't let packaging problems get in the way of a good day's coding :) Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
Stuart Cooper wrote:
..snip
>
> Doesn't work for me either. If I search for 'qmail',
Jeff - they are right. Htdig on slug doesn't return any links.
Others search http://www.woa.com.au/lists/slug whilst Jeff researches
this.
I'm also curious why SLUG has 30 qmail links, but WOA with longer
archive has only 10.
>
> Secondary bug: the first time you go to the page
> http://slug.org.au/cgi-bin/htsearch
Well, this is how the package came. It has a cgi script called htsearch.
We are both working on it at the moment.
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Re: [SLUG] Understanding mail headers....
"Richard Ames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It was bcc-ed to me, therefore blocking bccs will work your analysis looks right to me. Bcc has a useful/legitimate purpose too (although it's use is rare). I suggest filing them to a "suspicious" mailfile and periodically checking it rather than just just blocking. Or possibly bounce with a clear error message that Bcc emails aren't accepted and the sender must resend using To or Cc. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] CD Burners vs CDROMs
> Ahh I see they are doing THAT again. > > In the mid 1980's, the way you used to protect software from being copied > was to deliberately write a bad sector to the disk using special hardware. > Your game software would check for the existence of this bad sector, and not > run properly if the sector was good. > Similarly, if you tried to copy the disk, you couldn't copy the bad sector > on standard hardware. There are plenty of more advanced ways of copy-protecting a disk these days - and plenty of ways around them. Check out www.gamecopyworld.com - they have a lot of information about different copy protection methods and ways around them - either general methods or game specific methods (ie: a hacked executable that skips the check) This is assuming that the disk isn't faulty - if you place the disk in the burner can you mount and read it normally? -- _ Network Operations Engineer - Big Pond Advance Satellite Ericsson Australia - Level 5, 184 The Broadway, Sydney 2000 Ph: +61-416-085-390 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] nfsd problem
>When trying to run rpc.nfsd, I get > >nfssvc: Funtion not implemented. > >NFS support is compiled into the kernel. Not kernel NFSD support. Select Development Features, then under NFS options you will see a previously hidden option for Kernel NFS support. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
> Fantastic, I can finally search the archives, well almost. > I just did a search, and HTDIG found six documents, now if it would only > tell me what those doucments are that would be nice. Huh! It does on mine. It shows a link to the doco containing the word(s). What did you search for> (and where?) Doesn't work for me either. If I search for 'qmail', I'm told there are 130 matches, it says "Documents 1-10 of 130 matches" but it doesn't display links to them. I get the yellow "Pages" buttons on the bottom and I can cycle between them but I don't get the links to the documents. here's the whole URL that htsearch is getting FYI. http://slug.org.au/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=&restrict=&exclude= &method=and&format=builtin-long&sort=score&words=qmail (I split the line so < 80 characters) Secondary bug: the first time you go to the page http://slug.org.au/cgi-bin/htsearch you get some guff about no matches for ''. The CGI should be doing something else the first time on recognition of the fact that there are no parameters. Please get it to work because at the moment it is a bit lame. Stuart. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
Erich Schulz wrote:
>
> Fantastic, I can finally search the archives, well almost.
>
> I just did a search, and HTDIG found six documents, now if it would only
> tell me what those doucments are that would be nice.
aaarh - if it says MAIL INDEX or THREAD INDEX as the document, please
ignore this.
Both Jeff & I forgot to exclude these documents from the database.
In the WOA site, these are generated by mHonarc and are the pages you
seen when you enter each month.
We hope to remove them in future.
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[SLUG] nfsd problem
When trying to run rpc.nfsd, I get nfssvc: Funtion not implemented. NFS support is compiled into the kernel. Thanks in advance, James
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
Erich Schulz wrote:
>
> Fantastic, I can finally search the archives, well almost.
>
> I just did a search, and HTDIG found six documents, now if it would only
> tell me what those doucments are that would be nice.
Huh!
It does on mine. It shows a link to the doco containing the word(s).
What did you search for> (and where?)
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RE: [SLUG] CD Burners vs CDROMs
> If the bad sector is in the disk header, or as was suggested, a dirty lens. > Otherwise, I don't know. Hmmm Well i'm pretty sure it isn;t a dirty lense, as other cd's burn ok, and everything else seems to function fine. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] CD Burners vs CDROMs
> >Is there a way to convince dd to copy the disk bad secotry and all ? Or you can do what I did and have a hated 200 Meg M$ partition and boot it for the sole use of one program: CDRWIN -> http://www.goldenhawk.com/ It'll do the job. On another note - if anyone can point me to something Linux based that will do the same - please do - so I can free my 200 Megs and get rid of my sole Macroturd dependency. //umar. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] CD Burners vs CDROMs
>From: Jason Rennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Is there a way to convince dd to copy the disk bad secotry and all ? Not without severely modifying the hardware, getting in at the analog level. >Also why would that stop a cdburner from even seeing a disk in there ? If the bad sector is in the disk header, or as was suggested, a dirty lens. Otherwise, I don't know. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer & Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax:(02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] CD Burners vs CDROMs
From: Jason Rennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Hi all, > >This is more of a technical hardware question, rather than a >linux centric >one, but i dont think it is off-topic for the slug list. > >I was trying to make a back up copy of a game cd i have (Roller Coaster >Tycoon specifically), and when the disk is put in the burner, >and tried to >be accessed from xcdroast (and adeptec easy cd creator as well i might >add) it says that there is no cd in the drive. But of course >the cd runs >fine from the cdrom. > >When i tried to get around this with a dd, it choked a couple >of tracks in >and died. > >Any idea what has been done to this CD to make it work like this ? If the CD doesn't work from CDR but works from the CDROM outside of a "burning" program then run a cleaner through your CDR - it's probably got a dirty lens or something. If it only fails when you are trying to copy it then there is probably a bad sector on the disk somewhere. Do a quick search on the web - there's usually good advice somewhere on how to create backup versions of disks. John Wiltshire -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Understanding mail headers....
Richard Ames wrote: > > I would like to check my understanding of this spam mail header: > There are quite a few pages online about this sort of thing. Read them if you like (google is you friend!), but then go here: http://spam.sourceforge.net/ and download the spam.pl perl script, which automatically parses spam headers and sends emails to abuse@ and postmaster@ in the domains found in the header. I've used it a few times and managed to get one guy to tighten up his mail server... Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] CD Burners vs CDROMs
> In the mid 1980's, the way you used to protect software from being copied > was to deliberately write a bad sector to the disk using special hardware. > Your game software would check for the existence of this bad sector, and not > run properly if the sector was good. > Similarly, if you tried to copy the disk, you couldn't copy the bad sector > on standard hardware. I was concerned that might be the case. Is there a way to convince dd to copy the disk bad secotry and all ? Also why would that stop a cdburner from even seeing a disk in there ? Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] User-owned mounts
>> Wild stab: I believe uid/gid can be stored in the superblock of the >> filesystem. > >Yeah, I think that's pretty much the conclusion Ken came to. I just got his >email after I posted mine. :) No, not in the superblock, in the uid/gid fields of the top directory, which is after all, just a directory, except the .. points to itself. It makes sense. If the directory is owned by user/group before being mounted it should continue to be that way after mounting. Except for stupid FS like FAT which have to have ownership faked. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] mutt - /var/spool/mail/rob is not a mailbox?
guys I am trying to get mutt working with fetchmail and procmail. So far procmail is working well with fetchmail. I have a simple recipe to send a message with "test" in the subject to a maibox ~/Mail/in-testing. all other mail is being deposited in /var/spool/mail/rob. The problem appears to be in my mutt setup, it reports that "/var/spool/mail/rob is not a mailbox", and when I change mailbox to ~/Mail/in-testing I get the same message. I have included my configs and mail file below. any ideas rob .fetchmailrc # Configuration created Tue Oct 24 18:09:27 2000 by fetchmailconf set postmaster "rob" set bouncemail set properties "" set daemon 20 poll mail.altsim.org via vortex.altsim.org with proto IMAP user rob there with password __ is rob here options forcecr warnings 3600 antispam 571 550 501 554 .forward "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #rob" * .muttrc my_hdr From:Rob Shugg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ## Folders and mailbox #unset read_only set folder = ~/Mail #set mask = "!^\.[^.]" set mbox = ~/mbox set confirmappend #set confirmcreate #unset mh_purge #unset save_address #set save_empty set folder_format = "%N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f" #set move = ask-no set mbox_type = mbox I have aslo included these lines on a previous attempt mailboxes = ! mailboxes = /var/spool/mail/rob mailboxes = in-testing *** .procmailrc # Set to yes when debugging VERBOSE=no # Remove ## when debugging; set to no if you want minimal logging ## LOGABSTRACT=all # Replace $HOME/Msgs with your message directory # Mutt and elm use $HOME/Mail # Pine uses $HOME/mail # Netscape Messenger uses $HOME/nsmail # Some news clients, such as slrn & nn, use $HOME/News MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail # Make sure this directory exists! # Directory for storing procmail-related files PMDIR=$HOME/Procmail # Put ## before LOGFILE if you want no logging (not recommended) LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/testing.rc INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/lists.rc /var/spool/mail/rob Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from vortex.altsim.org by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.3.8) for rob@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:22:50 +1100 (EST) Received: from zed3 ([203.37.111.44]) by vortex.altsim.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8OBHuU07545 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:17:56 +1100 Received: by zed3 (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6659E14EDF; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:22:43 +1100 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t Message-Id: <20001024102243.6659E14EDF@zed3> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:22:43 +1100 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ghg. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Synchronous network ?
> It actually depends on the number of (transmitting) hosts on the network - > the more hosts, the lower the max utilisation. > A network with one main transmitting host can easily get 90% plus > utilisation (hook-up two machines and do an ftp from one to the other). > At the upper end ethernet maxes out at about 30% utilisation! Ahh that is not actually true. This is a very very common misconception no doubt propergated by the token ring exponents. Unfortunately I can't find the doco but, we had this argument many years ago and our network guru of the time, showed us the results of a test using several hundred servers and thick (10Mbit) ethernet. What they in fact found was that initially there was a large number of collisions and then the traffic settled down and the ethernet sustained nearly 90% throughput. How is this possible? Firstly each server listens to the wire before transmitting so collisions only occur when two servers decide to transmit at exactly the same instant. When a collision occurs (and this is the important bit), the servers back off for an *expotential* random amount of time. This means that each time they collide the amount of time that they get backed off increases expotentially. Thus repeated collisions lead to a machines basically being told they are off the air for a while. So 90% of the time the network is transmitting useful data and 10% of the time it's telling machines to shutup and stop talking. Of course this network would be hell to use, from each servers point of view the network would only be availiable less than 1% of the time and unlike token-ring your turn is not guarenteed. However, the point of the experiment was to show that ethernet still maintains a high utilisation rate even when the available bandwidth is orders of magnitude below what is required. Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] DVD ??
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 07:15:36PM +1000, Richard Blackburn wrote: > I'm thinking about replacing my CD player with a DVD/CD player (IDE). > Any Linux dramas with this on RH6.x. Anyone got brand name suggestions. While I haven't used it personally, I'd recommend an ASUS E608 if you can get one. It'll be the one I'll be getting. Try www.eyo.com.au or www.computermarket.com.au for starters. The reason for recommending this drive is that (with the current firmware) it is region free. Unlike 99% of the drives on the market, it'll allow you to use DVD's from overseas. Most drives will only allow you to change the region the drive will read a maximum of 5 times. And if the 5th change is to read, say, Japanese DVD's then all of your Aus disks become useless execpt as coasters. A good reference for DVD drives that are region free, or can be made to be region free is http://perso.club-internet.fr/farzeno/firmware/ Cheers Paul Haddon Technical Services Manager Hartingdale Internet -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Understanding mail headers....
I would like to check my understanding of this spam mail header: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from chinesemud.net (mud.szptt.net.cn [202.96.134.136]) by trout.linsup.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11504 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:08:31 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from fireball (sdn-ar-001njnbruP307.dialsprint.net [168.191.61.45]) by chinesemud.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA29146; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 04:51:00 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 04:51:00 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: <(©¿©)> I Wish I Knew This Years Ago! It originated on a dialup connection to dialsprint, therefore they can't block it without killing all access to that port. It was relayed through 202.96.134.136 (probably an open relay) therefore I can't stop it by blocking connections on the DUL list http://mail-abuse.org/dul/intro.htm. It was bcc-ed to me, therefore blocking bccs will work Richard. Richard Ames linsup.com, Sydney, Australia Tel: +61 2 9144-6131 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linsup.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
Fantastic, I can finally search the archives, well almost. I just did a search, and HTDIG found six documents, now if it would only tell me what those doucments are that would be nice. Erich Schulz PO Box 9170 Wyee, NSW 2259 Ph: (+612) 43593411, Fax: (+612) 43593696 Mob: 0408 201 288 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] gtk+ can't find -lXt
> > Well look at that. Props to Jeff :) > > # dpkg -S libXt > xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so > xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 > xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6 > xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.a > xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.a > xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0 > xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so > xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6.1 > > Graeme Thanks to Graeme and Jason. I seemed to be missing the *.a files - so I copied them over from my RH install on the other disk. gtk+ compiled OK after that, and appeared to install as well, although when I went to make an example, gcc couldn't find gtk-config. So I manually installed that in /usr/bin. Now gcc tries, but reports back: /usr/bin/ld cannot find -lgtk collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [buttons] Error 1 I can't find -lgtk either, although if that means gtk/gtk.h I've also made sure that's in lib. I tried adding -L /usr/include/gtk as well as -L /home/me/coding/gtkStuff/gtk+-1.2.8/gtk to no effect. I've tried updatedb and ldconfig as well. I may have to get dselect out again and make sure I've got various development libs. Or go back to my rh install if I want to use gtk+. Thanks for your thoughts Nick Croft -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
> Morning SLUGgers!
>
> Just to let you know, I've put htdig up on the SLUG server, so we know have
> searchable archives! Go to:
>
> http://slug.org.au/cgi-bin/htsearch
Having become motivated by the fact that Jeff made it work, I've also
put up htdig for searching the WOA Slug list archive.
http://www.woa.com.au/cgi-bin/htsearch or
http://www.woa.com.au/lists/slug
> * We only have archives of the months the new server has been in use.
The WOA archive goes back to around mid 1998, with a selected few from
January 1998.
However, the new SLUG server and the ProgSoc sites are faster sites and
have bigger pipes than WOA, so as time allows, I will pass over copies
of all the stuff I have to Jeff for addition to the Slug server archive.
> * It lists the monthly indicies. Small, but annoying nonetheless - you'll
> see what I mean when you do a search. Soon they'll have regexp matching and
> such, so we can block them out of the database.
Yep, I made this mistake too. (bummer).
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Re: [SLUG] Robots.Txt Format
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 11:01:52PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote: > However, I really only want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be able to run on > /lists. > > Is there a way of specifying this? Can't you tell htdig to ignore robots.txt ? Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Robots.Txt Format
> Terry Collins wrote: > > However, I really only want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be able to run on > /lists. > > Is there a way of specifying this? Yep - first off, change the useragent in your robots.txt to, say, htdigatwoadotcomdotau (just to be difficult). Then, add the following line to your htdig.conf file: robotstxt_name: htdigatwoadotcomdotau Now, as long as no one spoofs that text, you'll be fine. Perhaps you should make up a hash of something, just to be difficult. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Robots.Txt Format
I'm after assistance on formatting for the robots.txt file.
Basically, my default is
useragent: *
disallow: /lists
I don't want my link choked with robots indexing the thousands of
messages in my archive of slug list, etc
To run htdig, I had to change it to read
useragent: htdig
disallow
useragent: *
disallow: /lists
However, I really only want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be able to run on
/lists.
Is there a way of specifying this?
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or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WOA Computer Services
snail: PO Box 1047, Campbelltown, NSW 2560.
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Re: [SLUG] sql quicky
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 11:07:03PM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote: > Is there a command to add to the end of a field when updating > rather than overwriting it. Rather than extracting the current > data, joining then updating the field? update tablename set field1=field1+"new text" where recordid=55 You can make it a bit more conditional if needed. eg, if there's already something in the field add a comma then the new value, otherwise just put in the new value (with no comma) update tablename set field1=field1+",new text" where recordid=55 and field1 is not null update tablename set field1="new text" where recordid=55 and field1 is null Scott. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
> Jeff Waugh wrote: > > * I haven't put a searching interface up, nor have I customised the look. I > just finished running htmerge, and wanted to tell the list straight off! I > doubt I'll customise the look until the new website is up, but I will put a > searching interface up pronto. I've put a Q&D one up on the front page... Hey - it's works! :P - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] sql quicky
> Dean Hamstead wrote: > > Is there a command to add to the end of a field when updating > rather than overwriting it. Rather than extracting the current > data, joining then updating the field? PostgreSQL? 'string1' || 'string2' will concatenate for you. Outrageously confusing when you're leaping from most languages to SQL. Dunno about MySQL. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] sql quicky
Is there a command to add to the end of a field when updating rather than overwriting it. Rather than extracting the current data, joining then updating the field? thanks guys Dean -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] printcap settings and Windows printer
Hello, I have installed a HP Deskjet printer on a Windows boxen which is networked to the Linux box. Currently my samba settings do allow Linux disk shares to be accessed from Windows. Before further dwelling into samba settings, the howto docs indicate that I have to complete the printcap settings. I have made the following entries in these files: --- /etc/printcap === # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. # # @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88 # # Remote Deskjet Printer connected to Windows lp|deskjet:\ :lp=:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/indra:\ :rm=windows.mydomain.com:\ :rp=deskjet:\ :sh:sf:mx#0:\ :pl#66:pw#80: /etc/hosts.lpd === # # hosts.lpd This file describes the names of the hosts which are # allowed to use the remote printer services of this # host. This file is used by the LPD subsystem. # windows # End of hosts.lpd. --- At this point, when I try to print a file to "deskjet" printer on "windows" I get the following output. $ lpr -Pdeskjet profile $ lpq -Pindra -l connection to windows.mydomain.com is down I can connect to the windows.mydomain.com box. It responds to ping requests. What other settings need to be done to be able to print to this deskjet printer connected to the Windows box? I would appreciate, if you could share your configuration information for a similar setup. Thank you in advance. Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
> Jon Biddell wrote: > > If you need those files, take a look in ftp://predator.fl.net.au Ah! Groovy - Thanks Jon, - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ozemail problems.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, brian wrote: > Hello, I`m after help for my daughter. > When she go`s to Outlook Xpress, the connection is broken. > She has been on to them a couple of times and still hasn`t got it right. > Any suggestions. > Apart from dumping Ozemail and Outlook Express, have a look in the "network connections"part of OE - from memory there's an option to allow you to dial a connection from within this program - it might be clobbering her ppp connection (which, I assume, is being handled by Microsloth's poort excuse for Dial-up Networking ??) I can fire it up tomorrow night on SWMBO's notebook and have a better look for you if you like., -- Regards, Jon -- "It is irresponsible to connect a Windows machine to the Internet" ... John Wiltshire (SLUG) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Morning SLUGgers! > > Just to let you know, I've put htdig up on the SLUG server, so we know have > searchable archives! Go to: > Jeff, If you need those files, take a look in ftp://predator.fl.net.au Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, you wrote: > Morning SLUGgers! > > Just to let you know, I've put htdig up on the SLUG server, so we know have > searchable archives! Go to: > > http://slug.org.au/cgi-bin/htsearch > > > Some caveats: > > * We only have archives of the months the new server has been in use. I'm > going to see if we can reprocess the other archives from various places so > we can have a good history. I know about ProgSoc and Terry's archives (and > will be in contact), but if anyone knows of others - preferably with mbox > files intact - I'd love to hear about them too. I have pretty much all slug email in mbox format back to when I joined the list in 1999 - gzipped, of course... I know I don't have EVERYTHING, but it's yours if it'll help. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Writing plugins for Xmms.
hello, i have some interesting ideas for plugins. i was wondering if anyone has had any experience writing plugins for XMMS. i cant seem to find any info about this anywhere. the only thing i have to work with are the header files and the source of already written plugins. so if anyone can refer me to relevant links then this will be very appreciated as well. thanks in advance, Arun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] ISO Craig who came to Computerbank NSW meeting 19/9/00...
ISO Craig who came to Computerbank NSW meeting 19/9/00... Craig: I havent go t an email address for you. If you get this message please reply so I do. All others, sorry about the off topic post. John Coote __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Synchronous network ?
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:44:18PM +1100, DaZZa wrote: > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Present ethernets, from what I understand, transmit on demand and > > perform a random timeout in the event of collision. This means > > throughput drops at around 60-70% utilisation (can't remember the > > exact figure). > > 60% is close enough. Any csma-cd based network running higher utilisation > than that is in deep kimchee. It actually depends on the number of (transmitting) hosts on the network - the more hosts, the lower the max utilisation. A network with one main transmitting host can easily get 90% plus utilisation (hook-up two machines and do an ftp from one to the other). At the upper end ethernet maxes out at about 30% utilisation! Token ring on the other hand will happily handle 70-80% utilisation, even with several hundred active nodes on the network. The main problem with TR is that it's a much more complex protocol that ethernet (well, that and the fact that IBM owned it, and thus it was very expensive). > What you need for this is either. > > a CSMA-CA based network > > or > > A switched network > > In this case, the CA stands for collision avoidance - as opposed to the CD > used in ethernet, which stands for collision detection. CSMA-CD _is_ a collision avoiding algorithm, it's just not a very good one (it will not transmit if it can see something already on the wire. The collision detection is only there for when two hosts start transmitting at around the same time). Thing is, CSMA-CD use is dropping. As more and more people move to full duplex ethernet the whole concept of collisions goes out the window - one of the reason token ring is a dying standard. Scott. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Synchronous network ?
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Present ethernets, from what I understand, transmit on demand and > perform a random timeout in the event of collision. This means > throughput drops at around 60-70% utilisation (can't remember the > exact figure). 60% is close enough. Any csma-cd based network running higher utilisation than that is in deep kimchee. > How about having the nodes in a cycle, where each one transmits, after > which the next one either transmits data or a "I'm here but no data > to transmit", so the next one could. > > This represents an overhead when there is no data, but for network > intensive applications present over the whole network, it would mean > that 95% - 100% network capacity could be used (assuming maxmimum > 5% overhead), which is a lot more than, say 75% and it would mean > the network performance would decline linearly at saturation rather > than failing dramatically. What you need for this is either. a CSMA-CA based network or A switched network In this case, the CA stands for collision avoidance - as opposed to the CD used in ethernet, which stands for collision detection. > Are there drivers to perform this ? What would be involved in writing > such drivers ? Run token ring. Or some form of token-passing network - FDDI, token ring, a couple of others I can't remember off the top of my head. As for doing it on "standard" ethernet - buy a switch, and reduce your collision domain to a lower level - or forget it. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Searchable Archives? Whatever next?!?
Morning SLUGgers! Just to let you know, I've put htdig up on the SLUG server, so we know have searchable archives! Go to: http://slug.org.au/cgi-bin/htsearch Some caveats: * We only have archives of the months the new server has been in use. I'm going to see if we can reprocess the other archives from various places so we can have a good history. I know about ProgSoc and Terry's archives (and will be in contact), but if anyone knows of others - preferably with mbox files intact - I'd love to hear about them too. * It lists the monthly indicies. Small, but annoying nonetheless - you'll see what I mean when you do a search. Soon they'll have regexp matching and such, so we can block them out of the database. * I haven't put a searching interface up, nor have I customised the look. I just finished running htmerge, and wanted to tell the list straight off! I doubt I'll customise the look until the new website is up, but I will put a searching interface up pronto. There's also the stats at http://slug.org.au/stats/ if you're interested, though they have been there for a while now. You might see some humourous stats if you look hard enough. :) Comments and suggestions always welcome, - Jeff -- please excuse the email software :) -- i haven't gnu parted the hard drives at work (yet) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
