[SLUG] Port fowarding using iptables

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Kraus

G'day all...

I've been reading through netfilter's NAT howto.

I'm trying to do some transparent proxying of port 25, and 
am testing it on my local machine. (FWIW, I'm using 
Mandrake 8.2)

I execute `iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 25 
-j DNAT --to other-box`  where other box is the ip address 
of the machine I want it to redirect to...

When I telnet to other-box on port 25, it connects 
perfectly, however when I telnet to localhost on port 25 
it refuses connection.

Any hints as to why the port is being forwarded?

Thanks...

Mike

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[SLUG] Printing Problems with CUPs

2002-10-14 Thread Matt Hyne

Folks, I have been wading through the confusing world of linux printing and 
CUPS and I am hoping someone can help.

I have a linux box that is connected to a couple of LPD line printers 
(dot-matrix, no graphics). Now if I configure these as raw printers under 
CUPS then I can print fine however I need them to issue a From Feed at the 
end of each job.

I used to be able to do this with LPRng, but CUPs does not seem to allow me 
to do this.

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas or suggestions ?  I was looking at 
foomatic and cupsomatic and their PPD files but this all sounds 
over-complicated as they are printing output to Postscript and then 
converting it back to raw text.  I dont really want to do this just to add 
a FF to the end of the job.

Matt

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[SLUG] upgrading Mandrake

2002-10-14 Thread russell davie

thanks for the clues on urpmi, went smoothly
its nearly done, and xfs starts and stops properly 
xserver now only is stopped by a failing dcopserver
the error message is a red or blue screen (yep, KDE
has its own BSOD!)
with a dialog box:
could not read connection list
/root/DCOPserver_localhost.localdomain_:0
please check that DCOPserver is running

running dcopserver from /usr/bin returned:
Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.

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[SLUG] [Fwd: [Slashdot] Stories for 2002-10-14]

2002-10-14 Thread Simon Wong

Jeff had mentioned a 3D rendering package Blender some time recently.

Well, now it's GPL :-D

Site seems to be overloaded at the moment though!

Simon.



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> ++
> | Blender Is GPL |
> |   from the boom-boom-boom dept.|
> |   posted by timothy on Sunday October 13, @15:27 (gnu) |
> |   http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/13/1754204  |
> ++
> 
> [0]BartV writes with a low-key snippet from the new [1]blender.org:
> ""Today, Sunday oct 13, 2002, we've launched the Blender sources as GNU
> GPL to the Internet. Blender has become Free Software forever!" This
> should be a case study for other companies with software no longer
> profitable as payware; read some of our previous [2]postings about
> Blender to follow the story from idea to release.
> 
> Discuss this story at:
> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=02/10/13/1754204
> 
> Links:
> 0. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1. http://www.blender.org
> 2. http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=blender
> 




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[SLUG] Blocking explicit users

2002-10-14 Thread Howard Lowndes

Is there any way to block access to a specific directory by an explicit
user, eg. block apache from accessing /tmp

Yes, this is to do with the Slapper worm.  I can't update this particular
box for a few days, but I am controlling what goes on by filtering its
traffic;  still, it would be nice to block the apache user from accessing
/tmp.

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[SLUG] Re: upgrading Mandrake

2002-10-14 Thread James Gregory

On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 02:15, russell davie wrote:
> thanks for the clues on urpmi, went smoothly
> its nearly done, and xfs starts and stops properly 
> xserver now only is stopped by a failing dcopserver
> the error message is a red or blue screen (yep, KDE
> has its own BSOD!)
> with a dialog box:
> could not read connection list
> /root/DCOPserver_localhost.localdomain_:0
> please check that DCOPserver is running

hmm. ok. It doesn't have anything to do with the problem (I think), but
I'd suggest logging into kde as normal user and then suing to do any
admin work.

urpmi may well fix this (it could just be a library problem or
something) - were you getting it to upgrade kde? (I can't remember).

Just to be sure that we've got X fixed, can you try logging in with a
different window manager? WindowMaker say? I don't know if you have it
installed or not, so do 'urpmi -v WindowMaker' - It's not very big. Now,
I'm not sure which versions of what scripts you have. On my Mandrake 9.0
box here you set which window manager to start by changing the contents
of the ~/.desktop file. So, to make it start window maker you'd just
have a single line in that file that says:

DESKTOP=WindowMaker

and then running startx should make it "just work" (don't know if you've
used window maker, but click on the desktop with various buttons to make
it do stuff).

If it does not "just work", then here's a hideous way to try it out
anyway:

X & sleep 10 && /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker -display 0:0

If that works then we can safely ignore any X server problems in fixing
this dcopserver thing, but as I say above, urpmi may just fix it (I hope
so!)

> 
> running dcopserver from /usr/bin returned:
> Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.

hrmm. ok, that's because you ran it from console (the DISPLAY variable
is supposed to contain an address for the xserver to start programs on.
If an xserver is running, it will set this variable). Does anyone on
slug know if dcopserver leaves any logs lying around? I don't use kde,
so I don't know much about it. I understand that dcopserver is a corba
server thing, so I'm not surprised that kde won't work without it.

Now, as I recall I suggested you switch to runlevel 3 to debug this
stuff. Once kde is working from startx again, you might want to switch
back to runlevel 5 (you were running kdm, weren't you?). There's two
ways to do this:

1. Just edit the inittab file so that the default runlevel is 5 rather
than 3:

id:5:initdefault:

2. Get urpmi to get the latest version of the init scripts in which the
dislpay manager is a service and enabled in runlevel 5 by default, and
then edit inittab :) - 'urpmi initscripts' will install the latest
version of the initscripts.

Just on this: there's probably not any huge practical gain to running
the latest initscripts - with the possible exception being that it will
let you start and stop the display manager independent of runlevel. But
being on the current initscripts is probably a good idea, because
they've fixed bugs and because there are now some mandrake tools that
depend on the initscripts being a certain version (of course, urpmi will
pick that up, but, do it now and make sure it's working before playing
with such tools and you'll have one less (fairly important) thing to
trouble shoot with problems in the future)

you might also want to ensure that xfs *is* being started in both
runlevel 3 and 5. Now, assuming that urpmi hasn't gone and upgraded it
away - there's a little tool called "ntsysv". You might need to urpmi
it, it wasn't installed by default on my mandrake 9.0 installs. ntsysv
lets you tick little checkbox things to say what scripts are to be
started in what runlevels. You'll need to run it twice, once for
runlevel 3 and once for 5 (and there is a command line paramater that
'ntsysv --help' will tell you to let you specify which runlevel you want
to edit.) - just check that xfs is enabled in both. It's an ncurses app,
so you just run it from console.

Alternatively, if window maker starts up, there's a thing inside
'drakconf' that will let you set this stuff. You'll need to upgrade
drakconf if you upgrade initscripts (I'd be interested to know if urpmi
does resolutions that way... I've never tried it). So if you walk this
path: 'urpmi -v DrakConf'

hopefully everything is smooth sailing from here on. Keep us posted :)

James.

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[SLUG] ia_archiver

2002-10-14 Thread mainman

Hi all


On one of the websites I run I'm getting a whole series of access log
entries eg:

209.237.238.162 - - [11/Oct/2002:20:20:52 +1000] "GET /booklist.htm
HTTP/1.0" 200 36942 "-" "ia_archiver"

Has anyone run across this "ia_archiver" and have any info on it?

Cheers

John




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[SLUG] Expression of Interest for tender

2002-10-14 Thread Craig Warner

Computerbank NSW is tendering for an Expression of Interest for the NSW 
Government ComputerReuse Pilot Program. This a great opportunity for Linux to 
be accepted in the community as an alternative to other commercial products.

There are three areas of interest  within the tender documents are may be of 
interest to the Sydney Linux Users Group.

1. Provision of Internet Access access by Internet Service Provider (ISPs).
2. Provision of ongoing IT technical help desk support.
3. Provision of training support.

This is a NSW wide tender involving Computerbanks in New England, Hunter, 
North Coast, Illawarra, Sydney and Central West.

The provision costs for  the three areas will be submitted as part of the 
tender. So if there is any SLUGGERS or ISP's wishing to partnership,  please 
contact Computerbank NSW off list.

Regards

Craig Warner

NSW coordinator

NB: Compuierbank NSW is also applying for R&D Grant from Resource NSW for 
hardware recycling.
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Re: [SLUG] req: for solaris for intel media and a little question

2002-10-14 Thread Jan Schmidt



> Anyone able to burn me a copy of solaris for intel platform. It would appear
> a friend has misplaced that media and I have to admit I am not very happy.
> Rather then attempt to get it from sun again, assuming they even still sell
> it for the cost of the media for non commerical use.
> 

Which version are you after? Presumably Solaris 8? I can do that.

> Also, anyone care to put forward a recommendation of some really well
> supported agp cards. I'd like to get something that gets me some high res
> with lots of colour palette on X, and also something I could use for a bit
> of gaming in and out of linux. I kinda of like the ATI radeon cards, since
> they are so well priced. Just unsure how good it would be under linux, if
> supported at all.

I use a radeon 8500 here. You have to manually install the drivers over the
top of your X 4.2 setup, and redo whenever your package system upgrades X,
but the drivers work really well now for me - despite the fact that they're still 
under constant development. Drivers are at http://dri.sf.net

(Athlon 2000XP, MSI KT3 mobo, ATI Radeon 8500 64M @ 4x AGP, kernel 2.4.20,
X compiled by hand from the DRI sources)

Cheers,
J.

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Re: [SLUG] xfce installation problem

2002-10-14 Thread Ken Caldwell

I finally found a way to move the panel to where I wanted it.

With the resolution set to 800x600 the only part of the panel visible
was the bit you use to log out.  By temporarily reconfiguring X to
1024x768 enough of the panel was visible to reveal the place where you
can grab it and drag it further into view.  If you log out and then
reconfigure X to 800x600 resolution when you log back in enough of the
panel will be visible to enable you to drag it to where you want it!

I would still be interested in finding out how to preset the position
using config files though.

Ken

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Re: [SLUG] Article on Linux Users and ISPs

2002-10-14 Thread Malcolm V

On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 07:01, Tom wrote:

> Also, I'd say keep banging off the letters to Telstra/Optus.  Because
> ISPs support Mac, and Linux is poised to overtake Mac as the #2
> desktop OS, I would guess that official ISP support for Linux is not
> very far away - as long as ISPs clearly understand that that is what 
> the customer wants.


What is official ISP support for Linux?

Is it where you ring up and say your having some difficulty and your
using Linux they don't just automatically respond with "Sorry, we don't
support that"?
Or is it where you can just ring up and say "Uhh, I can't get my
internet working and I'm using Sorceror Linux 0.5, can you walk me
through it?" ?

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] xfce installation problem

2002-10-14 Thread Ken Caldwell



> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:08:36PM +1000, Ken Caldwell wrote:
> >  The trouble seems to be that the panel or whatever its called is
> > mostly off screen in the bottom right hand corner.  Infact only the bit
> > that lets you log out is visible at all.
> 
> Maybe you've got the virtual screen feature.
> If so, you can drag your mouse past the bottom right
> of the monitor screen and the whole lot should scroll
> for you.
> 
> To disable this, check out your Xconfig -- compare
> with the known 'good' one:

Neither machine uses the virtual screen feature.  I generally set things
to support just one resolution.  I have tried reconfiguring X to have a
higher resolution on the troublesome box with

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-s3

and pushing the resolution up to 1024x768 (which is about as far as I
can go with the attached monitor).  I had to drop back to 16 bit colour
because the card has only 2Mb video RAM.  At this resolution about half
the panel is visible.

It appears that the panel is drawn at a fixed offset (in pixels) from
the top left corner.  The help files don't seem to describe how to
change this setting.

I will do some more searching.

Ken
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[SLUG] Howto Rip an ISO - copy a cd?

2002-10-14 Thread Terry Collins

Looking for a heads up on how to copy a CD under Linux?

I thought the procedure was to dd if=device of=some.iso, then cdrecord
it.
I'm having trouble with dd in that it has taken over 60 minutes to copy
200Mb, so I don't hink I'm correct in my assumption.

So how do I copy off the cd iso?


Apologies if this is in the archive, but I can not currently see
www.slug.org atm.
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[SLUG] What's with the trickle?

2002-10-14 Thread Rick Welykochy

It seems to my MUA that SLUG mail is dribbling in, during the past
hour or so, with emails from the weekend and today.


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[SLUG] St Geo (the wank) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread Doug Foskey

Hi, all
Does anyone know what I have to do to get St Geo to work? (My T & S wants to 
access the Web banking) The pages are .asp's but I cant seem to find a 
plug-in. (I seem to remember a site that dealt with these bank accesses, but 
not remember where t'is.)
I am running Mandrake 9 & Mozilla 1.1 ('pologise it snot Deb, but you will 
have to meet me on my level!)
Doug

PS: Newbie Q: how do you re-enable the lower menu in KDE when it disappears?? 
(It seems sometimes on both my systems that the bottom status bar does a 
bunk, & I can't work out how to get it back. Restarting X re-enables it.??)
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Re: [SLUG] Howto Rip an ISO - copy a cd?

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting Terry Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Looking for a heads up on how to copy a CD under Linux?
> 
> I thought the procedure was to dd if=device of=some.iso, then cdrecord
> it.
> I'm having trouble with dd in that it has taken over 60 minutes to
> copy
> 200Mb, so I don't hink I'm correct in my assumption.
> 
> So how do I copy off the cd iso?

The way you describe is how I make my iso images. However, I usually put on the 
end something like bs=4096 so that it reads more chunks of data, rather then 
use the default block size of the dd command.

What is the cd? a straight iso9660 data cd? or does it have a data sectors like 
some audio tracks on it also?

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Re: [SLUG] Howto Rip an ISO - copy a cd?

2002-10-14 Thread Jeff Waugh



> Looking for a heads up on how to copy a CD under Linux?
> 
> I thought the procedure was to dd if=device of=some.iso, then cdrecord it.
> I'm having trouble with dd in that it has taken over 60 minutes to copy
> 200Mb, so I don't hink I'm correct in my assumption.
> 
> So how do I copy off the cd iso?

This is right, but you're best off using a big block size, so:

  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=pants.iso bs=8M

That will speed it up. You should also enable DMA on your drive if it can
handle it (via hdparm).

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (java) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread Jan Schmidt



> Hi, all
>   Does anyone know what I have to do to get St Geo to work? (My T & S wants to 
> access the Web banking) The pages are .asp's but I cant seem to find a 
> plug-in. (I seem to remember a site that dealt with these bank accesses, but 
> not remember where t'is.)

You need to get the java plugin running. I've no idea how to do that in
Mandrake... I usually install the java vm off java.sun.com by hand and follow the
instructions on integrating it with the browser, myself.

> PS: Newbie Q: how do you re-enable the lower menu in KDE when it disappears?? 
> (It seems sometimes on both my systems that the bottom status bar does a 
> bunk, & I can't work out how to get it back. Restarting X re-enables it.??)

Ii'll leave this for someone who uses KDE to handle :)

J.
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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (java) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread Jan Schmidt

(CC'ing to SLUG as well)



> On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:50, you wrote:
> > 
> > >   Does anyone know what I have to do to get St Geo to work? (My T & S
> > > wants to access the Web banking) The pages are .asp's but I cant seem to
> > > find a plug-in. (I seem to remember a site that dealt with these bank
> > > accesses, but not remember where t'is.)
> >
> > You need to get the java plugin running. I've no idea how to do that in
> > Mandrake... I usually install the java vm off java.sun.com by hand and
> > follow the instructions on integrating it with the browser, myself.
> >
> The Java is enabled by default anyway. Is there any difference between native 
> Java & the emulations? (all are available, Mozilla says Java is enabled)
> Doug

type 'about:plugins' into the URL box. You should get a screen that lists
all the installed plugins. You're looking for something like 
'Java(TM) Plug-in1.4.0' - if you've got that, then maybe you could supply a
bit more detail about exactly where the St George pages are going wrong?

I'd think that the 'java enabled' that you're talking about is embedded
javascript within the web pages, not java applets like the st george pages
have.

Cheers,
Jan.
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Re: [SLUG] killing a runaway console; mouseless mc [^] command line history

2002-10-14 Thread Angus Lees

At Wed, 09 Oct 2002 13:17:56 +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
> Voytek Eymont wrote:
> > 1.
> > if I get a 'problem' on a console, such as:
> > 
> > I can't get out of an editor...
> > and, after a while, I've tried every possible sequence I can think off,
> > and, I'm still inside an editor
> > 
> > how do I kill whatever on say console 2 ?
> 
> 1. Open a new console or a terminal session.
> 2. In that terminal type "ps ax" and look for a line that contains the
> name of the editor program
>lets says its vim [well if it was nedit or any other gui one would
> know how to get out of it :-) ]
> 3. note down the 'process number' of that program
> 4. type "kill -9 process_number"
> 
> One might also be able to type instead:
> killall -9 vim
> (if it was vim)
> 
> Once you do this the offending ediitor should promptly vanish from that
> terminal.

-9 will kill it "rudely" and should be used as a last resort.

try a "normal" kill first (with no arg it will send SIGTERM). if that
doesn't work (and it doesn't seem to on some shells), try a SIGHUP
(-1), this will fake what happens when the process's terminal exits
(you kill the ssh session, etc) and most editors will cope gracefully
with that by autosaving files, etc.

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Re: [SLUG] apt-get nasty

2002-10-14 Thread Angus Lees

At Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:56:14 +1000 (EST), Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, David wrote:
> > I decided to do:
> > 
> > apt-get remove postfix
> > 
> > and for some reason, apt decided that it would also remove apache!
> 
> To prevent these sorts of problems when removing MTAs, add ssmtp+ to your
> apt-get remove line, and whatever MTA was there will be replaced by a tiny
> little stub of an MTA called ssmtp.

or use an interactive apt frontend (i use aptitude) which would have
prompted you to choose another mail-transport-agent.

if you're not a script, apt-get probably isn't the tool you should be
using.

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Re: [SLUG] rsync hanging unless verbose

2002-10-14 Thread Angus Lees

At Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:29:36 +1000 (EST), david  wrote:
> When i did this:
> rsync -a -e ssh /etc me@elsewhere:/backup
> .rsync hung during the process.

strace both ends of your rsync during a hang and see what its actually
waiting for.

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Re: [SLUG] Article on Linux Users and ISPs

2002-10-14 Thread Tom

On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 22:51, Malcolm V wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 07:01, Tom wrote:
> 
> > Also, I'd say keep banging off the letters to Telstra/Optus.  Because
> > ISPs support Mac, and Linux is poised to overtake Mac as the #2
> > desktop OS, I would guess that official ISP support for Linux is not
> > very far away - as long as ISPs clearly understand that that is what 
> > the customer wants.
> 
> 
> 
> What is official ISP support for Linux?
> 


A beautiful first step would be to pick any modern Linux browser
and make sure it can pass the exact same testing that they use with 
IE on windoze.  Then publish the fact that said browser works.

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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (java) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread Tom

On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 20:50, Jan Schmidt wrote:
> 
>  
> > PS: Newbie Q: how do you re-enable the lower menu in KDE when it disappears?? 
> > (It seems sometimes on both my systems that the bottom status bar does a 
> > bunk, & I can't work out how to get it back. Restarting X re-enables it.??)
> 
> Ii'll leave this for someone who uses KDE to handle :)
> 
> J.

When I upgraded to play with KDE3, I lost the lower menu too, and ended
up getting it back by running "kcmshell Panel/panel".  Not sure if this
is something which would have changed from KDE2, but if not, make sure 
"Length" is set to "100%".  

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[SLUG] Recommend "Register Domain with only $14.95"

2002-10-14 Thread pandaNIC



Somebody send you this mail to introduce our domain registration service:


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[SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Alan L Tyree

This sounds like a stupid question even to me, but...

What good are src.rpm files? How can I use them, and why would I want
to? I don't understand their purpose when they are accompanied by
binary rpms with the same program. I have just installed RH8 and I
wonder what I can do with the other three CDs.

Cheers,
Alan

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[SLUG] Red Hat DataBase 2.0

2002-10-14 Thread Robert Pyne

I'am intereseted in Red Hat DataBase 2.0 however the iso download of 83+Mb
is too large for me to download.

Has anyone downloaded Red Hat DataBase 2.0. If you have and can burn a CD
for me I will pay for the cost of the CD, mail and your time.

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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG

> What good are src.rpm files? How can I use them, and why would I want
> to? I don't understand their purpose when they are accompanied by

Hi Alan,

Source rpms are useful when you need to compile stuff. 

An example for me was recently the installation of sweep from
sweep.sourceforge.net. Richard Neal posted an excellent install how-to
for Mandrake including the use of several source RPMs. Without these as
sweep depends on them, you would not be able to install sweep.

HTH

Stu

BTW. You've the same problem I had a couple of weeks ago, your clock is
on daylight saving time +>> 2002-10-16 at 03:34

If this is not so, please tell me how the results of the 3:30 at
Randwick, I've some money to place on the winner ;-)


On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 03:34, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> This sounds like a stupid question even to me, but...
> 
> What good are src.rpm files? How can I use them, and why would I want
> to? I don't understand their purpose when they are accompanied by
> binary rpms with the same program. I have just installed RH8 and I
> wonder what I can do with the other three CDs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
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Re: [SLUG] Red Hat DataBase 2.0

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting Robert Pyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'am intereseted in Red Hat DataBase 2.0 however the iso download of
> 83+Mb
> is too large for me to download.
> 
> Has anyone downloaded Red Hat DataBase 2.0. If you have and can burn a
> CD
> for me I will pay for the cost of the CD, mail and your time.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you get really stuck for someone to do it, just give me a buzz and we can 
make some arrangements :)

Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (java) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread Alan L Tyree

I'm using RH8 - download the j2re-1_4_0-fcs-linux-i386.rpm file from
the Sun website. Install, then make a symbolic link 

libjavaplugin_oji140.so ->
/usr/java/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so

in the /usr/lib/mozilla-xxx/plugin directory.

It gives java support in Mozilla and (of course) in Galeon.

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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (java) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread John McQuillen

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 04:27, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> I'm using RH8 - download the j2re-1_4_0-fcs-linux-i386.rpm file from
> the Sun website. Install, then make a symbolic link 
> 
> libjavaplugin_oji140.so ->
> /usr/java/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
> 
> in the /usr/lib/mozilla-xxx/plugin directory.
> 
> It gives java support in Mozilla and (of course) in Galeon.
> 
This is what I did in Mandrake 9.0 also, 'cept I used the plugin in the
ns610 directory.

And by the way, it does work in Mandrake 9.0. :)
Just finished paying the bills :(

Regards,

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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Alan L Tyree

> 
>> HTH

It does, thanks. Obvious when you think about it, I guess.

>> 
>> Stu
>> 
>> BTW. You've the same problem I had a couple of weeks ago, your clock is
>> on daylight saving time +>> 2002-10-16 at 03:34

Ooops. I have had trouble with the time on RH8. The graphical
time-setter doesn't work for some reason that I have not been able to
discover. I thought that I got it right - my display clock shows the
correct time.

>> 
>> If this is not so, please tell me how the results of the 3:30 at
>> Randwick, I've some money to place on the winner ;-)

Hey, I wonder if ... :)

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Re: [SLUG] ia_archiver

2002-10-14 Thread Mary

On Sun, Oct 13, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On one of the websites I run I'm getting a whole series of access log
> entries eg:
> 
> 209.237.238.162 - - [11/Oct/2002:20:20:52 +1000] "GET /booklist.htm
> HTTP/1.0" 200 36942 "-" "ia_archiver"
> 
> Has anyone run across this "ia_archiver" and have any info on it?

It's the robot that saves archives of your pages for
http://www.archive.org/, which is a site aiming to preserve "snapshots"
of the web for posterity.

If you aren't particularly interested in having it archive your website
(reasons include not liking the idea generally, privacy concersn etc
etc) you can keep it out with /robots.txt. Details are at
http://www.archive.org/about/exclude.php

Follow-ups to slug-chat please.

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[SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Luckhurst

Hi List

I have been asked to look into an interesting project for a client
of mine. I have to use a Linux box at both sites the client operates.
I have to have 6 serial ports available at the remote site. At the main 
site I have to recover the 6 serial ports so they can be plugged into
a proprietary terminal server along with another 30 serial devices.
I am intending to get the 2 Linux boxes connected with a simple dial
up PPP link. I have found a number of suitable 8 port serial cards
that will take care of the extra ports. Has anyone ever had any 
experience in multiplexing and then demultiplexing serial ports
in this way? The main requirement is the devices at the remote end
should see the terminal server at the main end as if there were no link.
The serial devices only operate at 9600 and there is not a great deal
of data involved.

This system is replacing a very expensive and ancient multiplexer
system that used a Telstra microlink for comms. With the end of
microlinks and the crazy cost of Onramp, along with the ancient
hardware being used, the client wants to update.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards

Richard


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Re: [SLUG] A vi problem, with pike.

2002-10-14 Thread Angus Lees

At Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:22:28 +1000, Bill Bennett wrote:
> I use vi as an editing language.
> I'd like a command that would put in the section command and
> capitalize the leading letters of all words in a line that
> are *not* of one, two or three letters. However, the first
> word in the line, regardless of the number of letters *must*
> have a leading capital.

i don't want to start an argument or anything, i just don't think
you're using the right tool for the job.

eg: here is a fairly straightforward (imo) piece of elisp that will do
exactly what you want:

(defun bozotitlecase-section-ify ()
  "replace \"and this is the current line\" with
\"\\section{And This is the Current Line}\""
  (interactive)
  (beginning-of-line)
  ;; match the beginning of any word of 4 or more characters, or the
  ;; first on the line
  (while (re-search-forward "^\\w\\|\\<\\w\\{4\\}" (point-at-eol) t)
;; upcase the first letter of whatever we just matched
(replace-match "\\u\\&"))
  (beginning-of-line)
  (insert-string "\\section{")
  (end-of-line)
  (insert-string "}"))

and if writing elisp is too difficult, you could have recorded a macro
that would have generated pretty much the same code.


if they were the only "freestanding" single lines in your text (ie:
they could be found without user interaction), you might also want to
consider preprocessing your document with a simple perl (or similar)
script.  even if the script got it wrong 10% of the time, you're
already way ahead.

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Re: [SLUG] Howto Rip an ISO - copy a cd?

2002-10-14 Thread Yuri

The most easiest will be just to do 
$ cp /dev/cdrom cdrom.iso

Magic of "everything is a file" Unix :)

On Sunday 13 October 2002 16:12, Terry Collins wrote:
> Looking for a heads up on how to copy a CD under Linux?
>
> I thought the procedure was to dd if=device of=some.iso, then cdrecord
> it.
> I'm having trouble with dd in that it has taken over 60 minutes to copy
> 200Mb, so I don't hink I'm correct in my assumption.
>
> So how do I copy off the cd iso?
>
>
> Apologies if this is in the archive, but I can not currently see
> www.slug.org atm.

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[SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Mark A. Bell

Hi everyone,

Can someone recomend a Linux-friendly repair shop?
Preferably near Glebe or public transport.

thanks



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RE: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Rowling, Jill

Hehehe I used to design these things.
If you want a quick solution that you have to pay for, give SCO/Caldera/Blue
Sky a ring at North Sydney. They probably have something off the shelf.

If you want to do it yourself, you can use Stallion cards in a PC (use
Google to find them), but you may have to do your own device driver.

Another commercial one is Marconi; give them a ring and ask them about the
stuff they got when they bought Scitec years ago. I'm sure there were some
stand alone serial multiplexers in that lot.

The DDS service used to be very cheap, much cheaper than the present dial up
service. That's why your customer probably used it.
The last time I worked on this sort of thing was at DEC for a customer who
was using Telecom's DDS service (synchronous, X22 ==20 ports of X21),
converted with racks of DSP cards with on board VAXen to HDLC packets for an
IBM mainframe. OOoer. My job was the DSP multiplexer side hardware &
software. It took us a couple of years...

Cheers,

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-Original Message-
From: Richard Luckhurst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: Slug
Subject: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing


Hi List

I have been asked to look into an interesting project for a client
of mine. I have to use a Linux box at both sites the client operates.
I have to have 6 serial ports available at the remote site. At the main 
site I have to recover the 6 serial ports so they can be plugged into
a proprietary terminal server along with another 30 serial devices.
I am intending to get the 2 Linux boxes connected with a simple dial
up PPP link. I have found a number of suitable 8 port serial cards
that will take care of the extra ports. Has anyone ever had any 
experience in multiplexing and then demultiplexing serial ports
in this way? The main requirement is the devices at the remote end
should see the terminal server at the main end as if there were no link.
The serial devices only operate at 9600 and there is not a great deal
of data involved.

This system is replacing a very expensive and ancient multiplexer
system that used a Telstra microlink for comms. With the end of
microlinks and the crazy cost of Onramp, along with the ancient
hardware being used, the client wants to update.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards

Richard


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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting "Mark A. Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Can someone recomend a Linux-friendly repair shop?
> Preferably near Glebe or public transport.
> 
> thanks
> 

Hi,

Never heard of such a request. Is it you want your PC running linux to have a 
hardware bit fixed, while still keeping your linux OS in tact?

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Re: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Christopher Vance

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 09:35:17AM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
: If you want to do it yourself, you can use Stallion cards in a PC (use
: Google to find them), but you may have to do your own device driver.

FreeBSD has stallion drivers.

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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Kevin Waterson

On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:34:20 -1000
"Alan L Tyree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This sounds like a stupid question even to me, but...
> 
> What good are src.rpm files? 
They contain the source code for the rpm

How can I use them,
A typical usage would be to install the src rpm
#rpm -Uvh package_name.src.rpm
This will install the source code in /usr/src/redhat
It will put the source in the SOURCES dir and a package_name.spec
file in the SPECS dir.
# cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS
#ls
and you will see the package_name.spec file..
>From there you could build a new src.rpm with
# rpm -bs package_name.spec
This will create a new package_name.src.rpm in /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS
Then you could also create a new rpm like this..
# rpm -bb package_name.spec
This will create a new package_name.rpm in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386
Then you can install your newly built rpm

 and why would I want
> to?
If you wanted to modify the program in any way, perhaps to fix a bug
or check for security issues.
I will be making a few changes to the PHP rpm as the default php.ini
file has short tags Off, I wish this to be On, so I will change it in
the .src.rpm and make a new one.

Also, the file instdso.sh is missing from the apache-devel rpm, I will
replace this file and create a new apache rpm so I can compile against it.

 I don't understand their purpose when they are accompanied by
> binary rpms with the same program.
.src.rpm's are the essence of open source software.
There are no secrets or tricks you can get upto without the
world knowing. Some software companies have little bits of
code they put in their programs to report back to them via
the internet, this would be impossible to conceal with open
source as you have access to the code.
 
 I have just installed RH8 and I
> wonder what I can do with the other three CDs.
You could install the Documentation CD and and if you have
no desire to poke about in the source code itself, there are
a miriad of ideas for CDs.. eg, frisbee's, a coaster for your 
coffee, and groovy pair of ear-rings etc etc...

Kind regards
K



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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Mark A. Bell

Hi Michael
 
> Never heard of such a request. Is it you want your PC running linux
> to have a 
> hardware bit fixed, while still keeping your linux OS in tact?

No, I'm happy to re-install Linux, I just need to get my hardware
running again so I can re-install. Specifically CD-ROM (er.. I think..)

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Re: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Fox

Quoting Christopher Vance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 09:35:17AM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
> : If you want to do it yourself, you can use Stallion cards in a PC
> (use
> : Google to find them), but you may have to do your own device driver.
> 
> FreeBSD has stallion drivers.
> 

Indeed it does, I sold my old stallion brumby4 to a friend with freeBSD. I 
think he loves it just as much as I still do.

stallion rock big time. When the stlstats.c and stuff no longer compiled on 
2.2.x kernels and 2.4.x kernels. A quick usenet post and a email reply from 
stallion in oz gave me a patch file to fix it :)

If anyone wants a stallion brumby8 isa card with optopus cable to suit :) I am 
sure I could find one and sell it for a reasonable price.

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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Mike MacCana

Source RPMs are the proper way to install software from source code on
Linux. They are rebuilt into binary RPMs with rpmbuild.

Reasons why you should be using source RPMs when installing software
from source:

* Software can be managed in the standard fashion, with a standard
installation, upgrading, uninstallation, verification, querying, GPG
signing and dependency handling by higher level indexing tools like
up2date, urpmi, and apt. Otherwise you're turning your system into an
unmanagable nightmare for no good reason. Yes, many people don't know
how their packaging system works but decide to install crap all over
their hard disk anyway. No, that doesn't mean this situation is
acceptable.

* You can perform these tasks en masse, in an automated non interactive
fashion 

* RPM is the LSB standard for package management

* Likewise, so is the FHS. RPM spec files are designed to put things in
FHS specified locations by passing appropriate options to make.

* You can easily pass your own custom options to rpmbuild, which will
then be passed to the configure script, customizing your app. There's
also a variety of standard arguments that get passed to makem, eg, to
rebuild a xine source package into a binary package:

rpmbuild --rebuild --target=athlon xine-whatever.rpm

If you install software from source code, its best practice to package
that source code into a SRPM - this is very easy to do (especially if
you already know how to compile apps from source) and only takes 5
minutes for any app which uses GNU autoconf / automake.

If you install software from source, you can learn how to package here:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-rpm1/

Mike

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 03:34, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> This sounds like a stupid question even to me, but...
> 
> What good are src.rpm files? How can I use them, and why would I want
> to? I don't understand their purpose when they are accompanied by
> binary rpms with the same program. I have just installed RH8 and I
> wonder what I can do with the other three CDs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Alan L Tyree

>> 
>> Source RPMs are the proper way to install software from source code on
>> Linux. They are rebuilt into binary RPMs with rpmbuild.



Thanks for that. I just installed Lyx from source since the available
rpm required more up-to-date libraries (how can that be?).

If I understand you correctly, I should have built a proper rpm from
the Lyx source (which does use config) and then installed in the usual
way. That's neat!

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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Mark A. Bell

--- Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so whats the issue?

Hi Michael,

Well, this is embarassing. I have this old IBM P133 that I run Debian
on. I'm a hobbyist, not a professional. Yesterday I had a go at putting
in a second hard drive. There wasn't much room in the case, but I think
I got everything plugged back in right. The machine booted up just fine
so I ran  fdisk and then mkfs -t ext2 on the second drive and tried to
reboot. Now it won't boot. I get a lot of complaining messages - E.g.:

Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card
IBM MCA SCSI: No microchannel bus found --> Aborting
Kernel panic - no init found

Normally I would just reinstall from my CDs, but now I'm stuck.

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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Conrad Parker

On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:24:10PM -0700, Mark A. Bell wrote:
> --- Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > so whats the issue?
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Well, this is embarassing. I have this old IBM P133 that I run Debian
> on. I'm a hobbyist, not a professional. Yesterday I had a go at putting
> in a second hard drive. There wasn't much room in the case, but I think
> I got everything plugged back in right. The machine booted up just fine
> so I ran  fdisk and then mkfs -t ext2 on the second drive and tried to
> reboot. Now it won't boot. I get a lot of complaining messages - E.g.:
> 
> Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card
> IBM MCA SCSI: No microchannel bus found --> Aborting
> Kernel panic - no init found
> 
> Normally I would just reinstall from my CDs, but now I'm stuck.
> 

can you boot off the debian rescue CD (CD 1 usually works as that, as well
as being the first install CD) -- if so then it will run its own init and
kernel, and you can manually mount and reformat your hard drives

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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread kevin

Mark,
are you sure that you didn't fdisk or formated the drive you have linux on?



> --- Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > so whats the issue?
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Well, this is embarassing. I have this old IBM P133 that I run Debian
> on. I'm a hobbyist, not a professional. Yesterday I had a go at putting
> in a second hard drive. There wasn't much room in the case, but I think
> I got everything plugged back in right. The machine booted up just fine
> so I ran  fdisk and then mkfs -t ext2 on the second drive and tried to
> reboot. Now it won't boot. I get a lot of complaining messages - E.g.:
> 
> Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card
> IBM MCA SCSI: No microchannel bus found --> Aborting
> Kernel panic - no init found
> 
> Normally I would just reinstall from my CDs, but now I'm stuck.
> 
> - mark
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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Mark A. Bell

--- Conrad Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> can you boot off the debian rescue CD (CD 1 usually works as that, as
> well as being the first install CD)

Hi Conrad,

No, I can't - I've set my system to boot from the CD first (then the
floppy disk, then the first HD), but it doesn't seem to recognize the
CD-drive. This has always worked in the past.

- mark

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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Lake


Alan wrote...
> > What good are src.rpm files? How can I use them, and why would I want
> > to? I don't understand their purpose when they are accompanied by

"Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG" wrote: 
> Source rpms are useful when you need to compile stuff.
> An example for me was recently the installation of sweep from
> sweep.sourceforge.net. Richard Neal posted an excellent install how-to
> for Mandrake including the use of several source RPMs. Without these as
> sweep depends on them, you would not be able to install sweep.

Similarly many users have to compile from source if they have a computer
with an architecture where there is no binary rpm for it. Linux is 
available for 13 different architectures and often there are binary rpms
for only the Intel/AMD and maybe PowerPC. Those with Sparcs and Alphas
sometimes need to compile from source and then there are the several
other wierd artictectures.

Also occasionally compiling from source for your specific CPU chip may
give you a faster running binary.

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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Mark A. Bell

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mark,
> are you sure that you didn't fdisk or formated the drive you have
> linux on?

Er.. um.. well.. the fdisk stage seemed to go fine, but I might have
messed up the mkfs part.

- mark

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Re: [SLUG] Howto Rip an ISO - copy a cd?

2002-10-14 Thread Stephen Robert Norris

On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 09:14, Yuri wrote:
> The most easiest will be just to do 
> $ cp /dev/cdrom cdrom.iso
> 
> Magic of "everything is a file" Unix :)
> 
> On Sunday 13 October 2002 16:12, Terry Collins wrote:
> > Looking for a heads up on how to copy a CD under Linux?
> >
> > I thought the procedure was to dd if=device of=some.iso, then cdrecord
> > it.
> > I'm having trouble with dd in that it has taken over 60 minutes to copy
> > 200Mb, so I don't hink I'm correct in my assumption.
> >
> > So how do I copy off the cd iso?
> >
> >
> > Apologies if this is in the archive, but I can not currently see
> > www.slug.org atm.
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If using dd, remember to set a block size - something like 4k or 8k at a
minimum for a CD. The bigger, the faster the copy will go, in general. I
use about 1024k (dd if=/dev/hdd of=foo.iso bs=1024k).

Note that if you have IRQ unmasking turned off, this will make the
machine very hard to use, however. In that case, use smaller values
until it seems OK.
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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (the wank) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Neal

The task bar at the bottom is a program called kicker, make sure you
haven't got auto-hide enabled and it isn't running in the background ie
check with "ps aux" or "top" or "Ksysguard" then kill it if its running.
Then to start it again I usually just type kicker &. 
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 21:03, Doug Foskey wrote:
> Hi, all
>   Does anyone know what I have to do to get St Geo to work? (My T & S wants to 
> access the Web banking) The pages are .asp's but I cant seem to find a 
> plug-in. (I seem to remember a site that dealt with these bank accesses, but 
> not remember where t'is.)
>   I am running Mandrake 9 & Mozilla 1.1 ('pologise it snot Deb, but you will 
> have to meet me on my level!)
> Doug
> 
> PS: Newbie Q: how do you re-enable the lower menu in KDE when it disappears?? 
> (It seems sometimes on both my systems that the bottom status bar does a 
> bunk, & I can't work out how to get it back. Restarting X re-enables it.??)
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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Stephen Robert Norris

On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 09:44, Mark A. Bell wrote:
> Hi Michael
>  
> > Never heard of such a request. Is it you want your PC running linux
> > to have a 
> > hardware bit fixed, while still keeping your linux OS in tact?
> 
> No, I'm happy to re-install Linux, I just need to get my hardware
> running again so I can re-install. Specifically CD-ROM (er.. I think..)

Go to a hardware shop. Give them $80 for a new CD-ROM drive. Install it
into the box.

Getting a repairer to _look_ at it will cost you about that much...

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Re: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Glen C

At 09:36 AM Tuesday 15/10/2002, Christopher Vance wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 09:35:17AM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
>: If you want to do it yourself, you can use Stallion cards in a PC (use
>: Google to find them), but you may have to do your own device driver.
>
>FreeBSD has stallion drivers.
>
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RedHat supports Stallion multi-ports "out-of-the-box" - at least 7.2 
does.  Stallion support for Linux is pretty good.
Cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Matthew Hannigan



Also check out 

http://www.conserver.com

it rocks for remote serial console access.

Lost of useful console related docs too.


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Re: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread James Gregory

On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 09:10, Richard Luckhurst wrote:
> Hi List
> 
> I have been asked to look into an interesting project for a client
> of mine. I have to use a Linux box at both sites the client operates.
> I have to have 6 serial ports available at the remote site. At the main 
> site I have to recover the 6 serial ports so they can be plugged into
> a proprietary terminal server along with another 30 serial devices.
> I am intending to get the 2 Linux boxes connected with a simple dial
> up PPP link. I have found a number of suitable 8 port serial cards
> that will take care of the extra ports. Has anyone ever had any 
> experience in multiplexing and then demultiplexing serial ports
> in this way? The main requirement is the devices at the remote end
> should see the terminal server at the main end as if there were no link.
> The serial devices only operate at 9600 and there is not a great deal
> of data involved.

What are you using software wise?

I set up something similar for a client ages ago, the diff being that my
client wanted to have telnet access from any of the clients on his vpn
anywhere, so we went the tcp/ip->serial option. I can't remember which
program we used, but this one looks interesting:

http://ser2net.sourceforge.net/

Once you had that running, if you wanted serial access on the other end
you could do something insane like run netcat from a getty to connect it
to the serial device. There's some other tools which give you something
like screen for serial ports, and allow multiple clients to read with
one of them getting a write lock.

But yeah, I mostly mention it because I thought it might be of interest
to have the ability to have it accessible from anywhere in a network -
and it seems that it's easier to set up.

HTH

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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (java) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Neal

If you use the download version of mdk 9.0 etc you dont get a CD called
commercial applications 1 (there is also another one called commercial
applications 2 but you have to PAY $$ for that too).On the commercial
applications 1 CD, is all the Java stuff packaged in an rpm but wait,
there is more when you install that rpm it also links in all the java
stuff to your browsers.
This is why I always get the pocketbook and dont use the DOWNLOAD ISO
version.
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 20:50, Jan Schmidt wrote:

> 
> You need to get the java plugin running. I've no idea how to do that in
> Mandrake... I usually install the java vm off java.sun.com by hand and follow the
> instructions on integrating it with the browser, myself.

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[SLUG] RE: SKIRMISH!!

2002-10-14 Thread Pia Smith

For Those interested:

Paintball site is Adventure Quest, find info at www.paintball.com.au

Remember to ignore the prices, our fees are a good $20 less than the
packages there :)

Oh, and balls are $20 per 100 not $17 :(

RSVP

> Attention!
> 
> Have anyone you want to take out? Some scores to settle? Some 
> PAINT TO SHED!!!
> 
> Skirmish Paintball!
> 
> We are organising a group to go on a paintball escapade on 
> Saturday November 16th. I need to get an idea of numbers as 
> soon as possible to book places, but I am looking at a place 
> at East Kurrajong. We could have the whole place to ourselves 
> if we get more than 20 people, and the costs are:
> 
> $8 - is for your entry fee, it also covers 12-14 games of 
> paintball, equipment hire (facemask, overalls, gun/gas, 
> ladies armour), and a BBQ lunch (BBQ meat, bread and salads)
> 
> Paintballs are the only things not covered, base rate is $22 
> per 100, but this gets cheaper the more we buy. 2400 balls 
> costs $400, so that makes it 16.70 per 100, so we buy in bulk :)
> 
> Anyone interested who will be driving up please let me know 
> so we can car pool people, if we can't get enough car's, we 
> could consider renting a 12 seater and splitting the costs 
> between those people, but I think we should be able to get 
> enough cars.
> 
> In short, please let me know ASAP if you are interested, and 
> let me know if you have a car or need transport. Also ideas 
> for groupings of people would be great, eg - vi VS emacs users? ;)
> 
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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Richard Neal

There are a few reasons one would use source RPM's
1. dependency problems..lets say I have a binary RPM of the web and I
get a nasty dependency problem what can I do...Well I can download a
pile of new libs "yuk" and break a few things "extra yuk" or I can try
get the source RPM and hack that in and save myself a few headaches.
2. the binary RPM has a bug but I can download a small 1k patch file and
patch that to the source rpm (yes you can unpack an rpm and then patch
it then repack it).
3 same as above but the binary has a hardware problem
4 I have a Pentium 4 and I dont want any crummy i386 binary I want a
i686 because I want MAX SPEED..meep meep :-P
5. Ive hacked GCC for a few funky extra's in my machine and I want to
compile the source so it takes advantage of the extra's Ive set in GCC
6. I'm from the NSA and I dont trust any crummy rpm I want the source.

Hope that helpsyeah I know its not perfect but neither am I



On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 03:34, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> This sounds like a stupid question even to me, but...
> 
> What good are src.rpm files? How can I use them, and why would I want
> to? I don't understand their purpose when they are accompanied by
> binary rpms with the same program. I have just installed RH8 and I
> wonder what I can do with the other three CDs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
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[SLUG] New WineX 2.2 release available

2002-10-14 Thread Brett Olsen
Title: New WineX 2.2 release available





Hi Guys,
I noticed that a new interim release of WineX is available, details are as follows:


    ---
 WineX 2.2
    ---
    Release Notes, October 7, 2002.


TransGaming is pleased to announce the release of WineX 2.2. TransGamers 
can now download RPM, Debian and TGZ packages from the downloads section of 
http://www.transgaming.com/


WineX 2.2 is primarily a maintenance release, focusing on sound and 
multimedia improvements that have been made in the last several weeks.
In addition, WineX 2.2 now includes preliminary support for Sony Online
Entertainment's popular massive multiplayer game, EverQuest.


In addition to features provided by WineX 2.2, TransGamers using it or
any previous version of WineX should how be able to play Valve Software's 
popular Half-Life and CounterStrike games on-line.  Previously, anti-cheat
software would reject users running with WineX. 


New Features



    * Many improvements have been made to the sound system in WineX. Several 
  new combinations of hardware and device drivers should now work 
  better than previously.
    * Hardware sound buffering is supported when explicitly activated. It 
  can be configured in the ~/.transgaming/config file, along with 
  support for Full Duplex mode.  See the WineX Beginners Guide v 2.2 for
  additional information.
    * DirectShow support has been significantly improved, both in performance,
  as well as with support for additional media types.  DirectShow performance  
  is best when hardware sound buffering is enabled.
    * Several improvements have been made to DirectInput, including support
  for Unicode APIs and multi-button mice.
    * A number of fixes have been made to Direct3D 8, including support 
  switching rendering between threads, as well as various Transformation 
  and Lighting fixes.
    * Preliminary support for EverQuest. The Game is now fully playable 
  using the default 'new' EverQuest user interface mode, however the 
  auto-updater may not always work properly. The standard UI mode is not
  fully functional, and performance improvements will be made in future 
  releases.  For more information, see below.
    * Fixes for Mandrake 9.0 and RedHat 8.0 CD device auto-detection. Note 
  that Mandrake 9.0 appears to have a bug with SuperMount which can
  cause problems reading files from a CD-ROM in some circumstances. To 
  work around the problem, disable the SuperMount feature in the OS.



Known Issues



RedHat 7.2, 7.3, 8.0



Default Kernels shipped by RedHat in versions 7.2, 7.3, and 8.0 include
patches that can cause significant performance degredations in WineX.  Both
EverQuest and StarCraft are affected by these issues.  For best results, 
install a stock Linux kernel from Kernel.org.  TransGaming is paying close
attention to this issue and we hope to have it resolved in the next WineX
release.


Gnome 2.0
=


Gnome 2.0 users may experience problems with Gnome panels overlapping WineX
windows.  TransGaming expects these problems to be solved in future releases
of WineX.  In the meantime, we advise users to disable Gnome top-bar panels
during play. 


WarCraft 3
==


There are some known issues running WarCraft 3 in Direct3D mode under WineX.
Users may experience incorrect cursors, poor font display and minor rendering 
artifacts. It is highly recommended that WarCraft 3 be played in OpenGL mode. 
This can be done with the -opengl command line option. This option is automatically
added to the desktop and menu shortcuts so there is no need for it to be changed.
Note that after upgrading to the latest patch to support Battle.net play, the
game will be restated in Direct3D mode.  Simply restart the game from the 
desktop icon shortcut to use OpenGL mode.


Civilization 3
==


Currently copy protection for Civilization 3 will only work with the 1.0 and
1.07 versions of the game. If the game is updated to a later version, it will
no longer pass copy protection even with the disc properly mounted. It is 
recommended that users not update their copy of Civilization 3 to version 
1.21 until copy protection support in WineX is updated. Users may also 
experience minor problems with area of influence lines around settler units and
diplomatic indicators found on the Foreign Advisor screen.


Grand Theft Auto 3
==


The opening videos for Grand Theft Auto 3 work quite slowly under WineX. 
The movies may be skipped by pressing the space bar twice.


Black and White
===


At this time the mouse wheel is not working in Black and White. Users can
zoom by holding both the left and right mouse button at the same time and
moving the mouse towards or away as needed. Zooming can also be accomplished
usi

[SLUG] Update on skirmish paintball - last email :)

2002-10-14 Thread Pia Smith

Saturday November 16th all day
Adventure Paintball 1200 Singleton Rd, East Kurrajong
Package Prices - Special Rates (all prices include lunch, equipment, 12-14
games, and paintballs as indicated.

200 Paintballs - $44
300 Paintballs - $65
400 Paintballs - $80
500 Paintballs - $100
700 Paintballs - $120


Pia Smith
Systems Engineer
Ipex ITG
Lvl 2, 431 Glebe Point Rd
Glebe NSW 2037
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Re: [SLUG] src rpms

2002-10-14 Thread Alan L Tyree



>> 
>> Hope that helpsyeah I know its not perfect but neither am I

Seems pretty perfect to me. Thanks to everybody.

Cheers,
Alan

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[SLUG] RedHat up2date / Debian apt

2002-10-14 Thread steven

Afternoon All

With the release of RedHat 8.0 I feel
the need to switch back to RedHat from Debian.  RedHat 8.0 is pretty
much what I have been looking for since I first got interested in Linux
(My first distribution was RedHat 4.something).

/rant on

I have paid for one of the boxed sets
for each of the major RedHat releases and probably a few point releases
as well.  I see this as my contribution to their development.  This
is obviously not enough for RedHat and they have leapt upon what they see
as their income stream and charge for keeping your system up to date.  I
don't think even Microsoft have successfully managed this yet.  Perhaps
it is the fact that RedHat get this income stream from charging for keeping
your system up to date that they can afford the resouces to produce such
a product.   (Perhaps the style of Debian development means they are
too much like a large committee to ever force through a consistent user
interface.)

RedHat Network (RHN) seems to work well.
 I used it for a 7.2 box (Back then you got 12 months membership of
RHN)  Now with 8.0 you only get 60 days trial.  However, it annoys
me to be forced into paying for RHN for each machine.  I know you
can still download updated RPM's manually but I don't want to do this.

I just want to have my cake and eat
it too.  I want to a user interface similar enough to Windows that
my users can understand it.  I want a user interface consistent between
the different programs on the system.  I want all our systems configured
in a similar fashion so I don't have to remember 20 different ways of fixing
the same problem on 20 different machines.  Although it is not as
necessary I want to be able to use the same distribution for servers as
desktops for the same reason.  I want easy security updates.  (This
means I want apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade).  I want a simple and
automatic way of downloading all updates on a central machine in our network
and having them automatically picked up from there by other computers.
 I want lots of other things too but I shouldn't mention them here.

/rant off

I have spent some time this morning
googling for ways to set up updates that don't rely on a RHN subscription
(although at the moment I seem to have 2 current subscriptions).  I
have found something called frpms that claims to be a cut down version
of up2date.  I believe it is possible to configure up2date to collect
updates from another source but can't find details about this.  man
up2date shows a -p option which talks about up2date using a profile stored
on RHN to decide what to do.  There are also the --solvedeps and --whatprovides
flags.  These seem to imply that RedHat has sorted out the deficiencies
of RPM by storing dependencies on the RHN server rather than in the package.
 This of course further serves to tie you to RHN.

Have I got all this wrong?  Could
anyone provide some simple instructions or a pointer to simple instructions
about how I could set up up2date to work as I wish?

Regards to all
Steven

Re: [SLUG] RedHat up2date / Debian apt

2002-10-14 Thread Jeff Waugh



> Have I got all this wrong?  Could anyone provide some simple instructions
> or a pointer to simple instructions about how I could set up up2date to
> work as I wish?

Use apt-rpm and the many repositories for Red Hat packages available on the
net. To start: http://freshrpms.net/

(There are lots of people maintaining apt repositories for Red Hat, like
CodeFactory, the GStreamer project, etc.)

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-14 Thread Mark A. Bell

Hello Conrad and everyone,

It boots! :-)

I made a rescue and boot disk using my laptop, and learned how to use
rawrite in the process. The hardest part was finding the right files to
copy on the CD. My system booted off the floppies and recognized the CD
just fine. 

I had assumed that if I messed up partioning my new HD I would just be
able to put in the CD and re-install. I had a bit of a panic atack when
it wouldn't boot off the CD and I got all those warnings in dmesg -
thought maybe I'd broken a connector, or something. I'll be more
careful next time! Now where was that Hard-Disk HOWTO again...

Thanks to everyone who made suggestions,

mark

P.S. Now, if I put in a sound-card, I could play with Scrubby!

--- Conrad Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:38:25PM -0700, Mark A. Bell wrote:
> > --- Conrad Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > can you boot off the debian rescue CD (CD 1 usually works as
> that, as
> > > well as being the first install CD)
> > 
> > Hi Conrad,
> > 
> > No, I can't - I've set my system to boot from the CD first (then
> the
> > floppy disk, then the first HD), but it doesn't seem to recognize
> the
> > CD-drive. This has always worked in the past.
> > 
> 
> bugger
> 
> maybe see if everythinglinux can help you out with a rescue floppy or
> something?
> 
> www.everythinglinux.com.au
> ph. 0500 500 368
> 40 East St, Five Dock
> 
> Conrad.


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Re: [SLUG] RedHat up2date / Debian apt

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Lake

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have spent some time this morning googling for ways to set up
> updates that don't rely on a RHN subscription (although at the moment
> I seem to have 2 current subscriptions).  

Take out one subscription for one machine and (assuming other machines
are running same RH version) rsync them off the RHN machine?

> flags.  These seem to imply that RedHat has sorted out the
> deficiencies of RPM by storing dependencies on the RHN server rather
> than in the package.  This of course further serves to tie you to RHN.

Smart of them in the short term :-)

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[SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Kraus

G'day...

Apologies if this is slightly off-topic...  I'm wanting to 
read my Lotus Notes mail at work from my Linux machine..

My username contains spaces and slashes though, and I 
Ximian Evolution can't seem to handle it. Nor am I having 
any luck manually trying to log in via telnetting to the 
imap port on the server.

I've tried double quotes but this doesn't seem to help.

Any ideas, pointers, comments appreciated...

Thanks...

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Re: [SLUG] St Geo (java) & Mozilla

2002-10-14 Thread David Fitch

somebody (lost in the quoting) wrote:
> > You need to get the java plugin running. I've no idea how to do that in
> > Mandrake... I usually install the java vm off java.sun.com by hand and follow the
> > instructions on integrating it with the browser, myself.

which I never have much success with.  So I use netscape 7
which comes with java, flash etc all included by default
and "just works".

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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread Jeff Waugh



> My username contains spaces and slashes though, and I Ximian Evolution
> can't seem to handle it. Nor am I having any luck manually trying to log
> in via telnetting to the imap port on the server.
> 
> I've tried double quotes but this doesn't seem to help.

Please post the username either to the list or privately, I can help out.

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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Lake

Michael Kraus wrote:
> Apologies if this is slightly off-topic...  I'm wanting to
> read my Lotus Notes mail at work from my Linux machine..
> My username contains spaces and slashes though, and I
> Ximian Evolution can't seem to handle it. Nor am I having
> any luck manually trying to log in via telnetting to the
> imap port on the server.
> I've tried double quotes but this doesn't seem to help.

Try a backslash before the space i.e.
My\ Name\ has\ spaces

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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread kevin

Someone correct me if I am wrong but characters like spaces, quote marks
and the like are not part of the mail protocol standard, this is part of
the reason why you're experiencing issues with either connecting to the
server using telnet or mail programs.
In most cases for an email address or logon id the administrator would
need to be the one responsible in replacing the spaces with a character like
_ or - 

just my 2c worth

> G'day...
> 
> Apologies if this is slightly off-topic...  I'm wanting to 
> read my Lotus Notes mail at work from my Linux machine..
> 
> My username contains spaces and slashes though, and I 
> Ximian Evolution can't seem to handle it. Nor am I having 
> any luck manually trying to log in via telnetting to the 
> imap port on the server.
> 
> I've tried double quotes but this doesn't seem to help.
> 
> Any ideas, pointers, comments appreciated...
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Kraus

G'day...

Kevin, I believe IMAP can handle spaces - use double 
quotes.  It was the domino server that wasn't setup 
correctly.  (Erps...!)

All the best...

Mike

>Someone correct me if I am wrong but characters like 
>spaces, quote marks
>and the like are not part of the mail protocol standard, 

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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread Jeff Waugh



> Kevin, I believe IMAP can handle spaces - use double quotes.  It was the
> domino server that wasn't setup correctly.  (Erps...!)

Ah, good. You had the Evo guys worried there for a minute. :-)

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RE: [SLUG] Serial Multiplexing

2002-10-14 Thread Rowling, Jill

And on a similar note you might want to have a look at Cyclades terminal
servers.
They have Linux in a box with lots of serial ports and an ethernet
interface.
They're not cheap but you might want to see if that will neaten up your
customer's solution.

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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread steven


Mike

Notes is quite happy to have more than one name for a user.  Can you get
your administrator to set up a "short name" or an "alternative name".  (See
public name and address book)

Steven

Michael Kraus wrote:

G'day...

Apologies if this is slightly off-topic...  I'm wanting to
read my Lotus Notes mail at work from my Linux machine..

My username contains spaces and slashes though, and I
Ximian Evolution can't seem to handle it. Nor am I having
any luck manually trying to log in via telnetting to the
imap port on the server.

I've tried double quotes but this doesn't seem to help.

Any ideas, pointers, comments appreciated...

Thanks...

Mike


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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread kevin

so an email address can look like this

joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?



> G'day...
> 
> Kevin, I believe IMAP can handle spaces - use double 
> quotes.  It was the domino server that wasn't setup 
> correctly.  (Erps...!)
> 
> All the best...
> 
> Mike
> 
> >Someone correct me if I am wrong but characters like 
> >spaces, quote marks
> >and the like are not part of the mail protocol standard, 
> 




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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread Jeff Waugh



> so an email address can look like this
> 
> joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

No, but user names can look like "Your Mum". You have to gateway SMTP, so
weirdo email addresses (from/to the outside) are not a problem. Notes itself
is a problem, however.

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Re: [SLUG] Handling spaces in a Lotes Notes username.

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Kraus

G'day...

On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:47:49 +1000
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>so an email address can look like this
>
>joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

No.

But a username on an imap server could look like "Joe 
Bloggs" :)

All the best...

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