Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 10:54:42AM +1000, Robert Thorsby wrote:
On 2004.09.14 10:39 Alexander Samad wrote:
What about in a here doc
so some thing like
#!/bin/bash
TEST='here'
cat EOF
awk '/$TEST/ {print}' /somefile
EOF
do the ' still keep there meaning in a here doc ?
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use awk's -v option (that's the reason
it's there):
#!/bin/bash
TEST=Here
echo is a test |
/usr/bin/awk -v i=$TEST '{print (\ i, $0 .\)}'
Cool learn something new, but does it work in the // regex part ?
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Re: [SLUG] Another LaTeX question
James Gregory wrote: Once again I'm fighting the good fight trying to keep our documentation available as PDF and HTML. I have the problem at the moment that I need to include a huge table of error codes. One column of this table is a wordy description of the error (a short paragraph or so). I found the tabularx package which lets me wrap that column easily enough, but I also need the table to split into multiple pages in the pdf version, and produce a single big table in the HTML version. The solution I have at the moment is pure kludge and I'd really like to find something less awful. For splitting the table over pages in PDF look at supertabular or the longtable. They automatically break the table at the end of the page and you get a continued on next page at the bottom of the page. Then on the next page the table starts with continued from previous page and on it goes. Its very neat. Im not sure how latex2html or things of that ilk handle the longtable or supertabulars. It will probably just fall back to a single table if luck holds. While I'm at it -- LaTeX is driving me round the bend. What other options have I got for multi-output-format document processors? Ideally they should take care of layout like LaTeX does, but be less impossible to do things like multi-page tables in. Is docbook suitable for this? Yeah docbook would be good. But try supertabular and see how it goes. Search for the supertabular.dvi documentation on your system. Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SunRay on Linux
Hi, Does anyone have any experience Sun's SunRay devices (like what was in the dorms at LCA 2004, if you stayed at the college) connecting to a Linux box? Apparently with v3 (which is in Beta - http://wwws.sun.com/software/sunray/beta/index.html) of SunRay Server Software support for Red Hat and Suse was introduced. I know it was demoed at LinuxWorld at the beginning of August this year. I'm looking for feedback before I invest in some test/toy hardware. -- Thanks, Matthew Lambie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash
On 2004.09.14 16:05 Alexander Samad wrote:
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use awk's -v option (that's the
reason it's there):
#!/bin/bash
TEST=Here
echo is a test |
/usr/bin/awk -v i=$TEST '{print (\ i, $0 .\)}'
Cool learn something new, but does it work in the // regex part ?
I don't follow what you mean by but does it work in the // regex
part? but in awk any variable that is declared by the v option can
be used, modified, changed, etc in the same way as an awk variable that
is defined within the substantive awk script.
AFAIK awk cannot export back into the shell so you have to resort to
either making awk write to a [temp] file or turning the entire awk part
of your script into a variable.
Robert Thorsby
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[SLUG] whitepages.com.au freezes mozilla
This is absolutely killing me. Everytime I visit whitepages.com.au I see Applet v51 starting and I cannot type anything in the whole browser for like 30 seconds. Both Firefox and Mozilla nightlies. -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] whitepages.com.au freezes mozilla
Simon Males wrote: This is absolutely killing me. Everytime I visit whitepages.com.au I see Applet v51 starting and I cannot type anything in the whole browser for like 30 seconds. Both Firefox and Mozilla nightlies. its java I think. you could disable it - there was a text based whitepages, not sure of the url -its much faster dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 05:03:41PM +1000, Robert Thorsby wrote:
On 2004.09.14 16:05 Alexander Samad wrote:
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use awk's -v option (that's the
reason it's there):
#!/bin/bash
TEST=Here
echo is a test |
/usr/bin/awk -v i=$TEST '{print (\ i, $0 .\)}'
Cool learn something new, but does it work in the // regex part ?
I don't follow what you mean by but does it work in the // regex
part? but in awk any variable that is declared by the v option can
be used, modified, changed, etc in the same way as an awk variable that
is defined within the substantive awk script.
sorry my lack of the right words, can you use awk variable in the //
part of awk (pattern part)
But I think somebody answered elsewhere that variables can't be used
there
AFAIK awk cannot export back into the shell so you have to resort to
either making awk write to a [temp] file or turning the entire awk part
of your script into a variable.
Robert Thorsby
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Re: [SLUG] x509 certificate and openssl
Worked it out, revoke the initial cert and then re sign it ! Alex On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 11:26:03AM +1000, Alexander Samad wrote: Hi I manage my own ca and associated x509 certificates, now it is comming up that they are expiring, I have kept the original req, how do I re sign them, I tried re signing the original req but that fail. How do i create a new certificate with the same common name, I tried this and it said something about duplicate name and failed. Using debian unstable and openssl Thanks Alex -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SunRay on Linux
Matthew Lambie wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any experience Sun's SunRay devices (like what was in the dorms at LCA 2004, if you stayed at the college) connecting to a Linux box? Apparently with v3 (which is in Beta - http://wwws.sun.com/software/sunray/beta/index.html) of SunRay Server Software support for Red Hat and Suse was introduced. I know it was demoed at LinuxWorld at the beginning of August this year. I'm looking for feedback before I invest in some test/toy hardware. I've just found http://www.filibeto.org/sun/sunray-users/index.html which is a mailing list dedicated to SunRays. Checking the archives shows people have used Debian in the past, which is what I was wanting. Thanks, Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another LaTeX question
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 16:57 +1000, Michael Lake wrote: James Gregory wrote: Once again I'm fighting the good fight trying to keep our documentation available as PDF and HTML. I have the problem at the moment that I need to include a huge table of error codes. One column of this table is a wordy description of the error (a short paragraph or so). I found the tabularx package which lets me wrap that column easily enough, but I also need the table to split into multiple pages in the pdf version, and produce a single big table in the HTML version. The solution I have at the moment is pure kludge and I'd really like to find something less awful. For splitting the table over pages in PDF look at supertabular or the longtable. They automatically break the table at the end of the page and you get a continued on next page at the bottom of the page. Then on the next page the table starts with continued from previous page and on it goes. Its very neat. I tried those but they didn't wrap the text inside the long column (or at least I couldn't figure out how). I eventually found xtab which wraps nicely *and* splits pages. I'm using it for the pdf generation now. Im not sure how latex2html or things of that ilk handle the longtable or supertabulars. It will probably just fall back to a single table if luck holds. Alas, xtab doesn't work with latex2html, so there's now two copies of this table, one using xtab, the other using tabularx. They get included conditionally depending on what renderer is used. It's hideous but it works. Thanks for your help, James. -- James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] whitepages.com.au freezes mozilla
David Kempe wrote: Simon Males wrote: This is absolutely killing me. Everytime I visit whitepages.com.au I see Applet v51 starting and I cannot type anything in the whole browser for like 30 seconds. Both Firefox and Mozilla nightlies. its java I think. you could disable it - there was a text based whitepages, not sure of the url -its much faster dave There actually two, annoying slow one, and the clean one, I thought they killed the clean one. Bad: http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/search/search_text.jhtml Good: http://text.whitepages.com.au/pages_t/schs_t.htm Thanks. -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] whitepages.com.au freezes mozilla
quote who=David Kempe Simon Males wrote: This is absolutely killing me. Everytime I visit whitepages.com.au I see Applet v51 starting and I cannot type anything in the whole browser for like 30 seconds. Both Firefox and Mozilla nightlies. its java I think. you could disable it - there was a text based whitepages, not sure of the url -its much faster I had a similar problem recently, on both, 'normal' as well as text version I think... it was releated to a local Java version mish-mash, in my case -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OCR
* Michael Lake ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have not found anything that is anywhere near the ability of the commercial ocr packages that come with scanner software on Windows :-( This is the only reason why I run an emulator -- for TextBridge. Nick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Video glitches with i740 card
Thanks Ken, Changing the mouse cursor to a software cursor fixed the problem. Many thanks, Morphix is now working perfectly with all the latest upgrades from Debian. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 2.6.8 release info ?
I've just found about the Linux Weekly News (LWN) kernel articles index (at http://lwn.net/Kernel/Index/) and one of the articles there is a short one titled 2.6.8 and CD recording: http://lwn.net/Articles/98379/ Maybe it'll help explain some of the troubles with SCSI in 2.6.8(.1). To sum the conclusiong from this article, it sounds to me like: 1. If Linus sticks with the SCSI command filter then he should update the permitted commands and also add more context to decide if they are to be allowed (i.e. allow certain commands on certain device only if more conditions are met, instead of just checking opened for (read|write) and command is X). 2. Whatever turns up some applications do write operations on descriptors opened for read only and should be fixed. 3. Jorg Schilling might be right and direct CD device access should be restricted to root (but that would be disappointing to admit). Cheers, --Amos Rod Butcher wrote: The issues of 2.6.8 causing trouble booting (apparently caused by changed SATA SCSI default), broken terminal and trouble cd burning reported by some, seems to point to things being tweaked / changed / corrected in this release rather than bugs - but I can't find release info - anybody know where it is, i.e. what changed / new default configurations, drivers / features etc ? Couldn't find it in the tarball or at kernel.org. cheers Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Ken Caldwell wrote: quote who=Simon Wong On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 12:22, Rod Butcher wrote: Having got 2.6.8 to boot by changing lilo root arg to /dev/sda1 Just to let you know, there's a problem with 2.6.8 that means that you can't write to CDs (not sure if this is the case when using scsi/scsi emulation or just when writing directly to ATAPI drives). I can burn CDs just fine on this box which is running a 2.6.8 kernel. /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/scd0 I had to drop back to 2.6.7 for this reason so I thought I'd give you a heads up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OCR
Hai Ive been using ocrad http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.htm for ocr stuff with a script. Originally I had to convert some pdf's to text files I ended up writing a batch script (bash). I haven't got a copy of the script on hand (took me a while to perfect too) its been lost in the ether of time. I basically did the following Strip image file from pdf ( the pdf just contained an image file) run image file through some filters (later I discovered gimp can do command line filtering of images yep without the UI) convert image file to pbm format run file through ocrad program.. ( gocr is also pretty good read my note on the bottom) run text file through a bash text filter ( rip out one/two text characters surrounded by lots of white space ignore upper case words etc) then the final thing I did was run the whole text file through a spell checker set to ignore upper case words. It worked pretty well got 95% accuracy on really crappy scans of documents that windows clients used to do a total dummy spit on. Took me three days to get it working and I played with it for a few weeks then forgot it after I ran the script over all the files that needed translating One thing I must note with gocr the intermediate file format is VERY importantfeed the wrong file type to gocr (event though it works) and the results look horrible. ocrad is pretty good as long as the scanned image is good, also depends on your image-pbm conversion tools too. There are commercial ocr clients for Linux (read about it in one of the Linux rags) someone may have a link or just search google On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 19:17, Nick Croft wrote: * Michael Lake ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have not found anything that is anywhere near the ability of the commercial ocr packages that come with scanner software on Windows :-( This is the only reason why I run an emulator -- for TextBridge. Nick Regards Richard Neal ** Of course, it is very important to be sober when you take an exam. Many worthwhile careers in the street-cleansing, fruit-picking and subway-guitar-playing industries have been founded on a lack of understanding of this simple fact. (Moving Pictures) *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question
Peter Hardy wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 10:34, Jan Schmidt wrote: quote who=Matthew Davidson However, I maintain that's the way it _should_ work! That's the way hard links work, but they can only link within the same file system. But you shouldn't add hard links to directories. The ln utility will only let root even try it, and there's a fairly good chance the filesystem won't let you. I can't remember why it's a problem without a reference handy. For a start - path loops: # ln -F /tmp /tmp/a # find /tmp I think the outcome of this is why find(1) usually doesn't follow symlinks. There is also the confusing issue of where should .. of a directory with multiple parents point to, and how to maintain it if and when the original parent is removed. I suppose there are other reasons as well, possibly related to implementations of particular filesystems. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] whitepages.com.au freezes mozilla
Voytek wrote: I had a similar problem recently, on both, 'normal' as well as text version I think... it was releated to a local Java version mish-mash, in my case Do you mean that you managed to make it work once you fixed java on your machine? Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 2.6.8 release info ?
Thanks Amos others who provided feedback.. I'll stick with 2.6.7 (which works great for me) until the uberbrains decide where they're going on this. My failure to get bash to work on 2.6.8 under x11 remains a puzzle though.. all the components people told me it needed to run appeared to be selected in .conf. cheers Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just found about the Linux Weekly News (LWN) kernel articles index (at http://lwn.net/Kernel/Index/) and one of the articles there is a short one titled 2.6.8 and CD recording: http://lwn.net/Articles/98379/ Maybe it'll help explain some of the troubles with SCSI in 2.6.8(.1). To sum the conclusiong from this article, it sounds to me like: 1. If Linus sticks with the SCSI command filter then he should update the permitted commands and also add more context to decide if they are to be allowed (i.e. allow certain commands on certain device only if more conditions are met, instead of just checking opened for (read|write) and command is X). 2. Whatever turns up some applications do write operations on descriptors opened for read only and should be fixed. 3. Jorg Schilling might be right and direct CD device access should be restricted to root (but that would be disappointing to admit). Cheers, --Amos Rod Butcher wrote: The issues of 2.6.8 causing trouble booting (apparently caused by changed SATA SCSI default), broken terminal and trouble cd burning reported by some, seems to point to things being tweaked / changed / corrected in this release rather than bugs - but I can't find release info - anybody know where it is, i.e. what changed / new default configurations, drivers / features etc ? Couldn't find it in the tarball or at kernel.org. cheers Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Ken Caldwell wrote: quote who=Simon Wong On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 12:22, Rod Butcher wrote: Having got 2.6.8 to boot by changing lilo root arg to /dev/sda1 Just to let you know, there's a problem with 2.6.8 that means that you can't write to CDs (not sure if this is the case when using scsi/scsi emulation or just when writing directly to ATAPI drives). I can burn CDs just fine on this box which is running a 2.6.8 kernel. /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/scd0 I had to drop back to 2.6.7 for this reason so I thought I'd give you a heads up. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] whitepages.com.au freezes mozilla
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Voytek wrote: I had a similar problem recently, on both, 'normal' as well as text version I think... it was releated to a local Java version mish-mash, in my case Do you mean that you managed to make it work once you fixed java on your machine? yes this is *not* on Linux, but, I had whitepages kill either Mozilla or Firefox, using either 'normal' or text interface. after I removed the old down-level Java VM, and, cleaned up the whole Java environment, all these issues disapeared it also made StGeorge banking work again, and, some other very simple Java applets started working again whereas my other java probs were simply the applets wouldn't work, nada, zilch, the whitepages failure was the nasty one, it would really pull cpu cycles, and, freeze the browser -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux Databases
I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 08:03, Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. PostgreSQL does BLOBs which are good for storing imagesand what is wrong with SQL databases, they work, and some like MySQL are blindingly fast. Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates; Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; when you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
Andrew, I now know two things about OpenOffice: it can do databases quite neatly, and it can't do databases with bitmaps as fields. At 08:25 AM 15/09/2004, you wrote: I know you can do flatfile databases within Open Office not to sure about adding images though Heres a website explaining it on Open Office http://homepage.ntlworld.com/garryknight/linux/oodbase.html Regards, Edwin Humphries, Managing Director Ironstone Technology Pty Ltd P. O. Box 423, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299 Web: http://www.ironstone.com.au Mobile: 0419 233 051 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] echo not echoing anymore
Hi all, I have the following two files in the root directory of all my users on an LTSP4 setup. The purpose is to map their home drives from another server into the user space on the LTSP server. Works fine. However since a recent 'yum upgrade' (this is running on FC2) none of the text appears in the terminal screen. If you respond to the two pauses in the cursor with a correct username/password combination it works, but I need it to display the prompts. It is run by running the 'mapodrive' file as I couldn't figure out how to do the xterm -e thing any other way. File: mapodrive xterm -e ./leavemealone File:leavemealone #!/bin/bash echo -n Enter your username read -e USERNAME echo -n Enter your password read -es PASSWORD `sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=$USERNAME,password=$PASSWORD //10.192.0.14/homes /home/$USERNAME/ODrive` -- Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. Short answer: there is nothing that replaces Filemaker Pro or the like. One of the areas I think is lacking in Linux (more than happy to be proved wrong of course). OpenOffice does an OK job at being able to create an interface for the DB backends, but it's not as user-friendly as the Windows apps available - although it's more than a year since I was experimenting and it could well have changed (most if not all aspects of OO have only improved). I'm a little surprised that OO can't handle (as others have reported - I've no idea myself) bitmaps when the DB backends can. Filemaker Pro is originally a Mac program - is there an OSX version? There may be a Linux version if so. May be worth sreaching. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 08:54, Phil Scarratt wrote: Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. There is a product called Rekall http://www.thekompany.com/products/rekall/ which provides a front end to a number of backend dbs, inc MySQL and PostgreSQL Short answer: there is nothing that replaces Filemaker Pro or the like. One of the areas I think is lacking in Linux (more than happy to be proved wrong of course). OpenOffice does an OK job at being able to create an interface for the DB backends, but it's not as user-friendly as the Windows apps available - although it's more than a year since I was experimenting and it could well have changed (most if not all aspects of OO have only improved). I'm a little surprised that OO can't handle (as others have reported - I've no idea myself) bitmaps when the DB backends can. Filemaker Pro is originally a Mac program - is there an OSX version? There may be a Linux version if so. May be worth sreaching. Fil -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates; Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; when you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
try running filemaker in wine Dean Phil Scarratt wrote: Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to convert my personal PC use from Windoze to Linux. But there is a Win application that I've used for a long time for flat-file databases: Filemaker Pro. It's much better than other simple Win databases (eg, Access) and it isn't Microsoft! Can anyone suggest a Linux alternative? My key database is a database of my experimentation with bush food plants (yes, I know geek and gardener seem somewhat contradictory :-). This has several fields that contain bitmaps (photographs of plants). I know about SQL databases, but it seems a tad overkill for this - and there isn't a simple GUI front-end. Short answer: there is nothing that replaces Filemaker Pro or the like. One of the areas I think is lacking in Linux (more than happy to be proved wrong of course). OpenOffice does an OK job at being able to create an interface for the DB backends, but it's not as user-friendly as the Windows apps available - although it's more than a year since I was experimenting and it could well have changed (most if not all aspects of OO have only improved). I'm a little surprised that OO can't handle (as others have reported - I've no idea myself) bitmaps when the DB backends can. Filemaker Pro is originally a Mac program - is there an OSX version? There may be a Linux version if so. May be worth sreaching. Fil -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
Howard Lowndes wrote: There is a product called Rekall http://www.thekompany.com/products/rekall/ which provides a front end to a number of backend dbs, inc MySQL and PostgreSQL This looks quite good and complete, and it's been GPL'ed. Just took a quick look around their site and noticed that of 2.3.1 it allows http access - a feature that many Filemaker Pro users like and use. Without having tried it this could be the answer. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another LaTeX question
James Gregory wrote:
I tried those but they didn't wrap the text inside the long column (or
at least I couldn't figure out how). I eventually found xtab which wraps
nicely *and* splits pages. I'm using it for the pdf generation now.
If you want to wrap the text 'inside' a column you have to give a column
specifier of 'p' like this:
\begin{tabular}{p{3cm}lr}
which will wrap thd first col like a Paragraph with width 3cm and the
next two as left aligned and right aligned.
Mike
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[SLUG] Hard disk spin down, and GNOME.
Hi all. I have managed to set up my laptop to allow my hard disk to be shut off after a period of time while on battery. However, for the times I need to go into GNOME, if the laptop is left idle for a while, the hard disk doesn't spin down. Listening to the hard disk, it sounds like that it is making a read or write every so often. I have laptop mode turned on, with the hard disk set to spin down after 3 mins of inactivity. Is there any setting in GNOME that can be changed to allow the desired result? Running Slackware 10.0 with default GNOME 2.6 that comes with it, on 2.4.27. Thanks in advance. Luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
Howard Lowndes wrote: There is a product called Rekall http://www.thekompany.com/products/rekall/ which provides a front end to a number of backend dbs, inc MySQL and PostgreSQL Sorry, should've posted the non-commercial version link http://www.rekallrevealed.org/index.shtml The source is available for download from here. Searching may find prebuilt binaries. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] bind: rndc setup, where the keygen files go ?
Hi all, I'm trying to config bind on RH73, the rndc setup the docs tell me to generate some key with something like: # dnssec-keygen -a hmac-md5 -b 256 -n HOST my_dns Kmy_dns.+157+23903 that makes a couple of files like so # ls Kmy_dns.+157+23903.key Kmy_dns.+157+23903.private is there any special place to keep these files ? '/etc' ? in the rndc.conf directives: do I use the name I gave it, like: 'my_dns' ? or, do I use the file names returned by dnssec-keygen, like, 'Kmy_dns.+157+23903' ? whatever I use, I get: rndc reload rndc: no key definition for name my_dns rndc: no key definition for name Kmy_dns -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Phil Scarratt wrote: Filemaker Pro is originally a Mac program - is there an OSX version? There may be a Linux version if so. May be worth sreaching. Yes, there is an OS X version - it's still very much a Mac program. I rang Filemaker out of curiosity, and the official line is (paraphrasing): We recognise the growing popularity of Linux and intend to produce a server version of Filemaker at some unspecified time in the future. Meantime, filemaker has the world's ugliest scripting, so it may be no loss. OTOH, it's good for quick and dirty reports based on it's own (proprietry) data base. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] bind: rndc setup, where the keygen files go ?
Have you read, http://ops.ietf.org/dns/dynupd/secure-ddns-howto.html ??? Voytek wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to config bind on RH73, the rndc setup the docs tell me to generate some key with something like: # dnssec-keygen -a hmac-md5 -b 256 -n HOST my_dns Kmy_dns.+157+23903 that makes a couple of files like so # ls Kmy_dns.+157+23903.key Kmy_dns.+157+23903.private is there any special place to keep these files ? '/etc' ? in the rndc.conf directives: do I use the name I gave it, like: 'my_dns' ? or, do I use the file names returned by dnssec-keygen, like, 'Kmy_dns.+157+23903' ? whatever I use, I get: rndc reload rndc: no key definition for name my_dns rndc: no key definition for name Kmy_dns -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Scanner probs
Hi, (I tried to send a previous group mail, but it doesn't appear to have 'appeared') - sorry if this turns out to be a multiple post - some probs have been resolved thanks to previous assistance. Problems with a Diamond View scanner: (my aim is to run all my periphs in Mandrake, so I can change completely from win2000) I found a site in which the following was suggested: (http://www.linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/2003-October/016686.html) 1. On the scanner's installation CD, in the drivers (I think Win98 drivers dir), find 'u96v121.bin' and copy it to /dev/usb/u96v121.bin (or where you want your driver binaries - I know I'm a bit weird ;) 2. edit /etc/scan.d/snapscan.conf, changing the firmware line to read: firmware /dev/usb/u96v121.bin Be sure it points to the exact path where you put the binary! And that's it! :) Now you can use Kooka or Xsane to do your scanning, or scan from GIMP even! Now, from a response by another SLUG member, James, I gather I can't do that - though someone responded to the above site saying it worked - My scanner is supposed to be an Acer/Benq clone: 640U flatbed USB color scanner. When I run: $ sane-find-scanner # No SCSI ... Found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a5 [Color], product=0x2060 [ FlatbedScanner 13]) at libusb:001:002 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. scanimage -L gives: Device 'snapscan:libusb:001:002' is a Acer Flatbed Scanner 13 Also: # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices. Once you # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as # necessary. This is the only scanner - how do you assign permission? When I run Xsane, I get (both as su and as patrick): Failed to open device 'snapscan:libusb:001:002': invalid argument. Kooka, on execution, sees the scanner, then when it opens completely, it says - no scanner detected (in a little window at the bottom left) BTW. When I installed SANE it was as a tar.gz - I didn't realise it was on my Mandrake discs. I put the tar.gz in my downloads file and installed. Now in my download file I have a file called sane-backends-1.0.14. I'm wondering if I should uninstall all SANE files etc and reload?? I *sort of* understand the directions in the SANE manual pages, but not exactly and am concerned about doing something that.. well.. you know. http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-usb.5.html $ chgrp scanner /dev/usb/scanner0 $ chmod 660 /dev/usb/scanner0 I don't know if my scanner is in fact /dev/usb/scanner0 Whilst: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices/ Says not a directory. Thanks. Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SSL certificates portable ?
Hi All, Are SSL certificates portable ?. I want to generate a CSR on a IIS machine and use it to produce a certificate that will be used on an Linux/Apache 1.3.12-12 box (obviously with the correct fqdn ,etc) Is that possible ? Regards, Hilton. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SSL certificates portable ?
I am pretty sure that SSL certificates are dependant upon the IP address of the machine. Are SSL certificates portable ?. I want to generate a CSR on a IIS machine and use it to produce a certificate that will be used on an Linux/Apache 1.3.12-12 box (obviously with the correct fqdn ,etc) Is that possible ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SSL certificates portable ?
This one time, at band camp, Hilton De Meillon wrote: Are SSL certificates portable ?. I want to generate a CSR on a IIS machine and use it to produce a certificate that will be used on an Linux/Apache 1.3.12-12 box (obviously with the correct fqdn ,etc) The SSL cert vendor takes the CSR in text format, and the certificate / key pair are also text files, so it will work. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] X11R6.8 in mandrake
Has anyone install X11R6.8 on mandrake 10? Just wondering what I would need to concern myself if I was going to replace Xfree86 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wins netbios name resolution in /etc/nsswitch.conf
hi Peter, yes, nmblookup works fine with no problems resolving any names. Ryan - Original Message - From: "Peter Hardy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Wins netbios name resolution in /etc/nsswitch.conf On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 01:31, Ryan Tsai wrote: I'll recompile some Samba related packages tomorrow and see how it goes, though I still think its my glibc. I'd hate to classify this one as yet another unsolved tech mystery :-( Have you tried using the nmblookup utility to see if your samba is actually able to resolve names? That should narrow it down to either samba or glibc. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Databases
I've just purchased a program called Servoy, it's commercial, but has a 90 day developer trial available. Not expensive. Will run on windoze, osx and linux (written in Java). Has it's own build in db, or will connect to almost any sql (I'm using it for a snail mail management package with mysql). Easy to use GUI frontend. Think of it as Filemaker on steroids. http://www.servoy.com -- Craig Mitchell ctmATdunrossbusiness.com.au Dunross Business Services P/L On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 12:14, David wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Phil Scarratt wrote: Filemaker Pro is originally a Mac program - is there an OSX version? There may be a Linux version if so. May be worth sreaching. Yes, there is an OS X version - it's still very much a Mac program. I rang Filemaker out of curiosity, and the official line is (paraphrasing): We recognise the growing popularity of Linux and intend to produce a server version of Filemaker at some unspecified time in the future. Meantime, filemaker has the world's ugliest scripting, so it may be no loss. OTOH, it's good for quick and dirty reports based on it's own (proprietry) data base. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] SSL certificates portable ?
Hi all, I just spoke to a support at instantssl.com and they reckon you can create a csr on a win/iis box and Install the resultant certificate on an linux/apache box. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamie Wilkinson Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] SSL certificates portable ? This one time, at band camp, Hilton De Meillon wrote: Are SSL certificates portable ?. I want to generate a CSR on a IIS machine and use it to produce a certificate that will be used on an Linux/Apache 1.3.12-12 box (obviously with the correct fqdn ,etc) The SSL cert vendor takes the CSR in text format, and the certificate / key pair are also text files, so it will work. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] X11R6.8 in mandrake
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 14:40 +1000, Kevin Saenz wrote: Has anyone install X11R6.8 on mandrake 10? Just wondering what I would need to concern myself if I was going to replace Xfree86 You mean the Xorg server? I've been running that out of cooker for a number of months now. I've seen no problems with it. I think the current packages even port your configuration (could be wrong about that though). I've also had it running with Nvidia's commercial drivers on my workstation at home with Fedora. James. -- James Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
