Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo
Michael Fox wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:21:03 +1100, Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone explain this?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print %p
Does this mean you have some saved spam?
Err yes. Just over 3gb. Message size mostly 1-5K.
Mostly boings where my domain was used as a false sender.
Any chance of organising you to inject that back to a
email address of mine for some spam filter testing.
Err, how do you want it?
How much?
How fast?
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Re: [SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop
Stuart Guthrie wrote: I've got a thinkpad X31 if that helps. I'm thinking dd which I have never used but I'm concerned that on restore of partions 'doze will fail to boot if I don't get everything - I mean everything backed up in the correct manner. dd will work but take ages. ghost4unix or partition image are your two choices there I think. on the windows/dos side ghost is good, however it can break lilo a bit. It will probably do the best job however. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop
I'm about to re-jig my laptop which due to client needs has Linux on one partion and winXP on another. I'm going to back the whole thing up to my server before starting. I was wondering what the best technique to use is to ensure all partions, boot thingys and secret 'ibm restore' partions all make successfully. I really like mkcdrec for this sort of thing: http://mkcdrec.indyramp.net/project/index.html It can make a bootable CD/DVD of either your entire system, or any parts thereof. Recovery is simple -- you just boot from the CD/DVD you made and tell it to restore. I'm not 100% sure that it will handle the secret IBM restore partitions but it can be jigged to do so, most of it is in shell scripts. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, James Gray wrote:
The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially recognisable
software is available AND supported on Linux. They gave MYOB[1] and Star
Office. They don't want stuff that runs via emulators (wine etc), or
virtual machines (VMWare, BOCHS etc) - they want real, native Linux ELF
binaries :) Desktop software is preferred as there is plenty for the
backend. Also, little do a single task apps (like Real Player, and Acrobat
Reader) aren't really what they're after either. Open/closed source,
BSD/GPL/other isn't a factor.
Checkpoint Firewall for Linux.
FSecure VPN+
Veritas
ArcServe for Linux
Legato
CA Unicenter {various modules}
BMC Patrol
There's a metric shitload of them listed here
http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxCommercialApplications.html
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
Alias' Maya is also native for linux http://www.alias.com/eng/products-services/maya/system_requirements.shtml On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:38:44 +1100, Rowling, Jill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well this comes to mind as the CDs are on my desk :) ModelSim PE/SE says it works on desktops running Linux AMD64, IPF, and x86 compatible (amongst other things). Support contracts available, etc, from Mentor Graphics, http://www.model.com/ for this item. Definitely non-free and commercially recognisable, at least in the electronics design space. But I suspect you are thinking about office software. Really there is a lot of software available if your sales reps just took the time to find out what their customers really wanted rather than trying to push something onto them. Gently invite them to use a search engine, and search for a generic description of the item rather than a brand name. - Jill. -Original Message- From: James Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 December 2004 11:26 AM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux Hi All, The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially recognisable software is available AND supported on Linux. They gave MYOB[1] and Star Office. They don't want stuff that runs via emulators (wine etc), or virtual machines (VMWare, BOCHS etc) - they want real, native Linux ELF binaries :) Desktop software is preferred as there is plenty for the backend. Also, little do a single task apps (like Real Player, and Acrobat Reader) aren't really what they're after either. Open/closed source, BSD/GPL/other isn't a factor. So how about it folks? What have you seen/heard of that is offered as a NATIVE Linux app and is commercially produced/supported etc. Any links or publisher's websites would be most beneficial. Cheers, James [1] Word has it they (MYOB) are releasing a native Linux version some time next year. -- When I get real bored, I like to drive downtown and get a great parking spot, then sit in my car and count how many people ask me if I'm leaving. -- Steven Wright -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Menno Schaaf aka ginji irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help irc.ifirc.net #linux -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwired for Broadband ?
I have an unwired connection as my only internet service at home. I get poor signal strength and that's the only problem I have with it. One big advantage right now is that our office ADSL has gone kaput (no sync at all, tried 2 ADSL modems) and for the last 12 hours unwired has been working quite well as a temporary replacement even though it's also on the lowest signal level. We're on the border of Silverwater Newington. FYI, the signal is indicated like this:- flashing red - no signal red - low signal orange - ok signal green - best signal At best I've seen orange at home. Took it to Jan's unit in Hornsby and got green. Moving the modem about by approx 0.5m at a time can help. EG at the office it's sitting on a chair on top of a table near a window. I'd recommend it for roving tech's in Sydney. It also broadcasts UDP packets (at least on the ethernet side) which tells all sorts of stuff like temparature (they run very hot) and signal strength, time, base station id, approx distance and probably more we haven't worked out yet. On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Jason Rennie wrote: Hi all, At the meeting last month I noticed somebody dissed Unwired as slow and crap. Has anybody tried the service as I was thinking of getting it. Just the 256/64 connection. I'm guessing that with a router attached to the modem, there is no real problem with getting the whole thing to work with linux. Jason -- ---GRiP--- ** ROOM FOR RENT $120pw (neg) near Newington Shops 525/401 buses ** Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG Secretary, AUUG and Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, Tenpin Bowler, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Some people actually read these things it seems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
oracle i suppose thats a backend netscape. commercial software... whats commercial software. i find that i get on a windows machine and cant do what i want because it doesnt have any applications! Dean James Gray wrote: Hi All, The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially recognisable software is available AND supported on Linux. They gave MYOB[1] and Star Office. They don't want stuff that runs via emulators (wine etc), or virtual machines (VMWare, BOCHS etc) - they want real, native Linux ELF binaries :) Desktop software is preferred as there is plenty for the backend. Also, little do a single task apps (like Real Player, and Acrobat Reader) aren't really what they're after either. Open/closed source, BSD/GPL/other isn't a factor. So how about it folks? What have you seen/heard of that is offered as a NATIVE Linux app and is commercially produced/supported etc. Any links or publisher's websites would be most beneficial. Cheers, James [1] Word has it they (MYOB) are releasing a native Linux version some time next year. -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean at bong.com.au or djzort at bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
So how about it folks? What have you seen/heard of that is offered as a NATIVE Linux app and is commercially produced/supported etc. www.mathworks.com Matlab www.esri.comArc/Gis (release date Jan 10th 2005) www.oracle.com Oracle Rdbms -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
James Gray wrote:
Hi All,
The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially recognisable
software is available AND supported on Linux.
I hope you didn't waste your time even considering that question.
Oh wait, you've posted here. Bad call.
Try asking them why, what, who, how, when ,etc.
i.e. get some real working parameters and find out what they really
want.
Oh and how much they are prepared to pay.
Only then can you produce meaningful answers.
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Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:55 am, Terry Collins wrote:
James Gray wrote:
Hi All,
The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially
recognisable software is available AND supported on Linux.
I hope you didn't waste your time even considering that question.
Oh wait, you've posted here. Bad call.
I know. I basically said to them that sales research is not part of my job
about a week ago. Unfortunately they went to my boss, who asked me to help
them as a favour to him. Hence the reason I out-sourced the research :P
Try asking them why, what, who, how, when ,etc.
i.e. get some real working parameters and find out what they really
want.
Oh and how much they are prepared to pay.
Only then can you produce meaningful answers.
Agreed. Everything they have specified I put in the original message. It's
obtuse and vague; like most sales people. They'll get what they pay for -
trust me. I'll give them any suggestions from SLUG and from some other
sources, the rest is up to them (which is why publisers' websites are good
for this little exercise - puts the onus back on the sales guys).
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[SLUG] Procmail rule for backing up every email
This is the only rule in my .procmailrc: :0 c /home/david/BackupAllEmails and .forward looks like this: |/usr/bin/procmail Unfortunately, it dumps incoming mail into the backup file, but doesn't also pass it through to the local mail delivery. What have I done wrong? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Procmail rule for backing up every email
This is the only rule in my .procmailrc: :0 c /home/david/BackupAllEmails [...] Unfortunately, it dumps incoming mail into the backup file, but doesn't also pass it through to the local mail delivery. What have I done wrong? Is that *really* all that's in the .procmailrc? If so, procmail is probably getting to the end of the .procmailrc file and either saying no default delivery option, so I'll just give up and lose the mail or else it's dropping it somewhere unrecognisable in the assumption that you know what's going on -- possibly /var/mail/david or /home/david/mbox or something equally insane. Put this at the top of the .procmailrc file: DEFAULT=/home/david/Maildir/ and probably a bit of logging fu for good measure, to see where it's really delivering your stuff. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Procmail rule for backing up every email
The rule in your procmail is doing as its told... from what John Clarke told me the c in the directive means copy to file you state. Have a read of this, as John sent me yesterday. I believe a section will describe your fault. You need to add another rule to the end of your procmailrc to tell it which mailbox to delivery too. -- snip -- Tips: when playing with new rules (especially until you're comfortable with procmail) save a backup copy of messages *before* the new rules (see man procmailex for a rule to do this); always use a lock file when writing to a file; when writing to a pipe a lock file is optional but must be explicitly named. Implicit lock filenames are only allowed when writing to a file (the name is based on the filename). To use an explicit lock filename, put the name after the second ':', e.g.: :0 c: .sa.lock * 256000 | sa-learn --spam :0: Mail/probably-spam/ This rule pipes any message less than 256000 bytes in size to sa-learn, telling it to treat it as spam, using .sa.lock as the lock file, followed by a rule to save it in a mailbox (Maildir format) called Mail/probably-spam. This is a trap I have on one particular address which gets not much other than spam. Anything expected is filtered out before this rule, the rest is almost certainly spam. If it's not, I simply pipe it to sa-learn --ham to reverse the previous learning. Another useful rule is one that filters duplicate messages: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 .msgid.cache It stores message ids in .msgid.cache, and if there's a match, formail returns 0 which causes procmail to consider the mail delivered and terminate. If there's no match, it returns a non-zero value so procmail continues processing the rules which follow. Procmail is highly cryptic, very powerful, and very unforgiving and therefore dangerous. It's also very useful and I couldn't live without it. -- snip -- On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:02:24 +1100 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the only rule in my .procmailrc: :0 c /home/david/BackupAllEmails and .forward looks like this: |/usr/bin/procmail Unfortunately, it dumps incoming mail into the backup file, but doesn't also pass it through to the local mail delivery. What have I done wrong? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Production Ready software on Linux
James Gray said: So how about it folks? What have you seen/heard of that is offered as a NATIVE Linux app and is commercially produced/supported etc. Any I'll commercially produce and support anything they want. grin As you've already acknowledged, it's a stupid question. I hope your marketers get a bit of clicky clicky action to compensate you for the hassle. [1] Word has it they (MYOB) are releasing a native Linux version some time next year. Is there a public source for this nightmarish piece of news? A port to Linux (unless it includes a port to a sane database system) is not going to be good news -- MYOB is crap built on a foundation of shit. It'll do nothing for Linux's reputation on the desktop if the bloody thing commits seppuku as regularly on Linux as it does on Windows. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Procmail rule for backing up every email
Now it works [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat .procmailrc MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ LOGFILE=/home/david/procmail.log LOGABSTRACT=all :0 c /home/david/testprocmailcopy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I can mess around without losing all my email :) thanks Matt If so, procmail is probably getting to the end of the .procmailrc file and either saying no default delivery option, so I'll just give up and lose the mail or else it's dropping it somewhere unrecognisable in the assumption that you know what's going on -- possibly /var/mail/david or /home/david/mbox or something equally insane. Put this at the top of the .procmailrc file: DEFAULT=/home/david/Maildir/ and probably a bit of logging fu for good measure, to see where it's really delivering your stuff. - Matt BTW, it wasn't delivering it anywhere.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwired for Broadband ?
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: Hehe... is that not true for 99.9% of ISPs? It's not just Linux though, BSD, Unix, OS X... all suffer from the Oh, if it's not Windows then the problem is at your end... syndrome. When dealing with them, don't disclose your OS. Now that's funny... I got php/mysql errors when trying to login not long ago. Seems to be working now though. I'm not sure if MySQL's ported to windows so it's probably a safe bet the login stuff's run on Linux. -- ---GRiP--- ** ROOM FOR RENT $120pw (neg) near Newington Shops 525/401 buses ** Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG Secretary, AUUG and Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, Tenpin Bowler, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Some people actually read these things it seems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwired for Broadband ?
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 01:45 pm, Grant Parnell wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: Hehe... is that not true for 99.9% of ISPs? It's not just Linux though, BSD, Unix, OS X... all suffer from the Oh, if it's not Windows then the problem is at your end... syndrome. When dealing with them, don't disclose your OS. Now that's funny... I got php/mysql errors when trying to login not long ago. Seems to be working now though. I'm not sure if MySQL's ported to windows so it's probably a safe bet the login stuff's run on Linux. Both PHP and MySQL run on Windows. PHP will run under a number of web servers, including IIS. Cheers, James -- Real programmers don't write in BASIC. Actually, no programmers write in BASIC after reaching puberty. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux-unfriendliness at ISPs [was: Unwired for Broadband ?]
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:37:50PM +1100, Greg Wright wrote: various reasons for this, but if you are using something other than a supported OS (such as a form of linux or UNIX), then you do not need the help from an ISP's help desk other than to ask Is there any known issues at this time because (blah) It would, of course, be useful if the helldesk droids knew whether there are any known issues. Normally they don't -- either because the NOC doesn't trust them with the information, or whatever -- and so ringing up and asking is there a problem at your end? will always get a negative answer. And there's no way they're going to let you report a fault without doing the full troubleshooting dance, but they can't do the dance on anything but Windows, and so you're fucked. That's precisely why we (EverythingLinux) started providing ADSL where we only support Linux. If you're not running Linux we can't help you. We get to control the whole chain as far as the customer's concerned - from supplying the server hardware, adsl card, software install, adsl service and routine upgrades. On the backend we run the radius server and can tail the logs etc. We frequently know if there's a problem before the customer does. After the fact or if there's an alternate route (such as a modem) we can login and make a diagnosis so much easier - every system these days has an sshd running. Specs on the website under Systems, Business Solutions. -- ---GRiP--- ** ROOM FOR RENT $120pw (neg) near Newington Shops 525/401 buses ** Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG Secretary, AUUG and Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, Tenpin Bowler, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Some people actually read these things it seems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fonts broken after KDE 3.3 install
Sluggers, I compiled installed KDE 3.3.. and now find that using Gnome, my fonts are broken - by that I mean for many apps they appear inconsistently scaled - some parts of the font are too thin, others too fat, the general appearance being malnourishment. Any pointers to what I should look at to correct this ? thanks Rod -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Trkiye'nin en iyi bilgi yarmalar.
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Re: [SLUG] Trkiye'nin en iyi bilgi yarmalar.
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Re: [SLUG] Trkiye'nin en iyi bilgi y armalar.
As mentioned in an earlier thread... Also, for future reference, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the right place to hit the list admins for assistance - it makes it more likely that we won't miss it. On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:46:49 +1100, Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as much as i hate replying to spam can we please just block obscure character sets? Dean snip -- Menno Schaaf aka ginji irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help irc.ifirc.net #linux -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] reinstallting XP on a dual boot system
I'm trying to reinstall XP on a dual boot XP/FC2 desktop. Grub is the bootloader, installed in the MBR. When I reboot after the DOS part of the XP install, I'm taken to the old XP prompt, not the setup program. What to I need to do to make grub load the windows setup program? Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] reinstallting XP on a dual boot system
OK. no worries, worked it out - delete the old partition first! At 05:04 PM 17/12/2004, Edwin Humphries wrote: I'm trying to reinstall XP on a dual boot XP/FC2 desktop. Grub is the bootloader, installed in the MBR. When I reboot after the DOS part of the XP install, I'm taken to the old XP prompt, not the setup program. What to I need to do to make grub load the windows setup program? Edwin Humphries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop
Hi there Firstly merry Xmas to one and all, thanks for your advice over the year and I hope mine hasn't lead to too many disk reformats! I'm about to re-jig my laptop which due to client needs has Linux on one partion and winXP on another. I'm going to back the whole thing up to my server before starting. I was wondering what the best technique to use is to ensure all partions, boot thingys and secret 'ibm restore' partions all make successfully. I've got a thinkpad X31 if that helps. I'm thinking dd which I have never used but I'm concerned that on restore of partions 'doze will fail to boot if I don't get everything - I mean everything backed up in the correct manner. Any thoughts multo appreciato. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Stuart Guthrie wrote:
I'm about to re-jig my laptop which due to client needs has Linux on one
partion and winXP on another.
I'm going to back the whole thing up to my server before starting. I was
wondering what the best technique to use is to ensure all partions, boot
thingys and secret 'ibm restore' partions all make successfully.
I've got a thinkpad X31 if that helps. I'm thinking dd which I have
never used but I'm concerned that on restore of partions 'doze will fail
to boot if I don't get everything - I mean everything backed up in the
correct manner.
Any thoughts multo appreciato.
Boot it from a rescue floppy, Toms Root Boot or bootable CD or the like,
with enough network support enabled to run your card, mount a disk
remotely on your server, and DD it.
dd if=/dev/hda of=filename.dump bs=1024
You'll get an error at the end when it can't count any more blocks {there
may be a way to stop this - but I'm damned if I know what it is}, but you
should get an image you can restore to the disk in total by a similar
method.
DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop
Interesting topic Stuart, i am interested in this too. I have an LG laptop with the secret restore partition for XP. I am now ready to delete Win XP portion of the disk and reclaim that secret partition, so i'm curious to see what responses you get. vlad On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:56:59 +1100, Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there Firstly merry Xmas to one and all, thanks for your advice over the year and I hope mine hasn't lead to too many disk reformats! I'm about to re-jig my laptop which due to client needs has Linux on one partion and winXP on another. I'm going to back the whole thing up to my server before starting. I was wondering what the best technique to use is to ensure all partions, boot thingys and secret 'ibm restore' partions all make successfully. I've got a thinkpad X31 if that helps. I'm thinking dd which I have never used but I'm concerned that on restore of partions 'doze will fail to boot if I don't get everything - I mean everything backed up in the correct manner. Any thoughts multo appreciato. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
Well this comes to mind as the CDs are on my desk :) ModelSim PE/SE says it works on desktops running Linux AMD64, IPF, and x86 compatible (amongst other things). Support contracts available, etc, from Mentor Graphics, http://www.model.com/ for this item. Definitely non-free and commercially recognisable, at least in the electronics design space. But I suspect you are thinking about office software. Really there is a lot of software available if your sales reps just took the time to find out what their customers really wanted rather than trying to push something onto them. Gently invite them to use a search engine, and search for a generic description of the item rather than a brand name. - Jill. -Original Message- From: James Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 December 2004 11:26 AM To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux Hi All, The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially recognisable software is available AND supported on Linux. They gave MYOB[1] and Star Office. They don't want stuff that runs via emulators (wine etc), or virtual machines (VMWare, BOCHS etc) - they want real, native Linux ELF binaries :) Desktop software is preferred as there is plenty for the backend. Also, little do a single task apps (like Real Player, and Acrobat Reader) aren't really what they're after either. Open/closed source, BSD/GPL/other isn't a factor. So how about it folks? What have you seen/heard of that is offered as a NATIVE Linux app and is commercially produced/supported etc. Any links or publisher's websites would be most beneficial. Cheers, James [1] Word has it they (MYOB) are releasing a native Linux version some time next year. -- When I get real bored, I like to drive downtown and get a great parking spot, then sit in my car and count how many people ask me if I'm leaving. -- Steven Wright -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwired for Broadband ?
Grant Parnell wrote: I have an unwired connection as my only internet service at home. I get poor signal strength and that's the only problem I have with it. One big advantage right now is that our office ADSL has gone kaput (no sync at all, tried 2 ADSL modems) and for the last 12 hours unwired has been working quite well as a temporary replacement even though it's also on the lowest signal level. We're on the border of Silverwater Newington. I am trialling an antenna kit for unwired right now. Getting installed at a low signal customer in Parramatta on Wednesday. http://www.tcom.com.au/flashVersion/solutions_antennas.php good customer service so far, just gotta see how it goes dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:38 am, Rowling, Jill wrote: But I suspect you are thinking about office software. Really there is a lot of software available if your sales reps just took the time to find out what their customers really wanted rather than trying to push something onto them. Gently invite them to use a search engine, and search for a generic description of the item rather than a brand name. It's more that they want to assist one of our customers promote Linux as a real desktop alternative (we're the middle-man). To help them, they just want to know what sort of companies are actively supporting Linux as a platform, and what sort of commercially recognisable software is in the desktop market space. They would love to be able to say Quark or Adobe Photoshop etc, is ported to Linux but satan will probably be playing ice hockey by the time either of those defect from the dark side. :P James -- A psychiatrist is a person who will give you expensive answers that your wife will give you for free. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:37 am, DaZZa wrote:
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, James Gray wrote:
The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially
recognisable software is available AND supported on Linux.
*SNIPPED*
Checkpoint Firewall for Linux.
FSecure VPN+
Veritas
ArcServe for Linux
Legato
CA Unicenter {various modules}
BMC Patrol
There's a metric shitload of them listed here
http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxCommercialApplications.html
DaZZa
This is excellent - thanks!
James
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RE: [SLUG] Unwired for Broadband ?
At best I've seen orange at home. Took it to Jan's unit in Hornsby and got green. Moving the modem about by approx 0.5m at a time can help. EG at the office it's sitting on a chair on top of a table near a window. I'd recommend it for roving tech's in Sydney. It also broadcasts UDP packets (at least on the ethernet side) which tells all sorts of stuff like temparature (they run very hot) and signal strength, time, base station id, approx distance and probably more we haven't worked out yet. I just moved house into what turned out to be a small signal blackspot, and found the following useful for finding a better spot to put my modem... http://forum.exetel.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=2435 The lights on the modem are a basic indication, but the diagnostic software with the Ctrl-Shift-F10 trick goes well beyond. - Rog -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
