Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On 18/09/2007, Glen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: System administrators usually administer a whole scad of machines. They are much more inclined to centralise authentication, use their own repository containing meta-packages of software and configure these using cfengine or puppet. You are right. But until I get around to setup puppet in our new environment, and being not very familiar with CenOS (and with CentOS installing so much junk initially, or at least that's what I get from my hosting service), it would be nice to have a more friendly interface than rpm -qa | grep name, yum erase name, yum search ..., yum install etc.. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 14:14:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: Any more pointers? Hi Amos, The executable James refers to is system-config-packages (it used to be called redhat-config-packages). The executable is provided by the pirut package. It is uses X11, which you can use over ssh (see the -X and -Y flags to ssh). Thanks. I installed it. It pulled in tons of stuff with its dependencies (46 packages, mostly related to X11 libraries or notifications daemons I don't care about). It also requires me to enable X11 forwarding. I then turned around and used grep/awk to find all the packages and remove them. At least now I know where I stand in my chances to find such a tool. :( I know of no curses-based package manager which uses the yum API. Having used dselect on Ubuntu I can understand why no one bothers, a full GUI interface is just so much more understandable. I can understand your comment about dselect, I hated it too (and I think it's the consensus), but aptitude is totally different and being able to avoid X11 means: 1. faster interface over long distance. 2. avoids installing tons of X11-related stuff on a headless server 3. avoid opening possibly other holes in the system. Yum is the command-line package manager. Yes I know, it seems to have most of the smarts of apt-get but without the convenience of aptitude (can any tool on CentOS remember which package was installed automatically and mark it for removal when no longer required by other packages? And of course there is the interactive interface). Now SuSEs suit of sysadmin tools, including package management, yast, is just perfect for ssh admin smile IE the full GUI suit has a curses equivalent James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Software RAID Questions
Hi All I am Mucking around wit setting up some Software RAID Disks. I brought 5 x 500Gb USB2 external Disks and got them really Cheap. I have a situation where I dont need Llightening fast access to files, but I need a Lot of Space and as Much redundancy as I can get. So I want to add these 5 x 500Gb disks into a RAID 5 array. I used the following command: mdadm -v --create /dev/md1 --level=raid5 --raid-devices=5 --spare-devices=0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdg1 And now have a running /dev/md1. After running a mkfs -t ext3 /dev/md1 I got a Fully formatted Data Area and Mounted it to /mnt/raid All was well and I copied over Data and had a good old Play around. Then I re-booted the box, I got a MD1 does not exist type of error so my forst question is this. How do I make it Stick? How do I make the /dev/md1 still be recognised after a Reboot? My Next Step is to mount my /home on the RAID array, but first lets see if I can get it up and running after a Re-boot. Kev -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Slug digest vol 20 issue 25 - Subject: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
-The following applies mostly to John Clarke message. John have you looked up what motherboard you have. I know that HP probably isn't using the stock Intel or amd motherboards, but if you can find out it's chipset you might be able to use the vendors, in this case probably intel, own programs. Failing this, I'm sure you can grab a windows xp live cd (I have not personally used one but I know they exist) or use some one else's hardisk as a temporary fix. If you feel like emulating windows, you can do that too. Perhaps calling HP will yield another version of the update utility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:53:04PM +1000, Visser, Martin wrote: I'll see if I can get answer internally. Thanks Martin. I'm a little annoyed that when my laptop died the motherboard was replaced under warranty, the replacement had a very old BIOS, and they didn't set the model and serial numbers. An alternative might be to see if you can hold of one of the Windows PE or similar bootable CDs. I didn't know such a thing existed. I gave up on Windows years ago :-) We do use it at work though, so I'll see what I can do. Thanks, John -- If you want to watch [a hard drive] die a slow agonizing death, whilst incoveniencing the maximum number of your lusers, install it in the part of your news spool that handles alt.sex.* -- Brian Kantor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Software RAID Questions
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 04:42:23PM +1000, slug list wrote: Hi All I am Mucking around wit setting up some Software RAID Disks. I brought 5 x 500Gb USB2 external Disks and got them really Cheap. I have a situation where I dont need Llightening fast access to files, but I need a Lot of Space and as Much redundancy as I can get. So I want to add these 5 x 500Gb disks into a RAID 5 array. I used the following command: mdadm -v --create /dev/md1 --level=raid5 --raid-devices=5 --spare-devices=0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdg1 And now have a running /dev/md1. After running a mkfs -t ext3 /dev/md1 I got a Fully formatted Data Area and Mounted it to /mnt/raid All was well and I copied over Data and had a good old Play around. Then I re-booted the box, I got a MD1 does not exist type of error so my forst question is this. How do I make it Stick? How do I make the /dev/md1 still be recognised after a Reboot? Should have worked ? What does dmesg say and syslog also what is in cat /proc/mdadm. have you tried to re create (re assemble the raid array - not create a new one) I would also suggest to load lvm ontop of the raid then carve that up into lv's which could be used under /home etc My Next Step is to mount my /home on the RAID array, but first lets see if I can get it up and running after a Re-boot. Kev -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GanttPV?
Peter Hardy wrote: Just wondering if anybody's got any opinions about GanttPV ( http://www.pureviolet.net/ganttpv/ )? I'm particularly interested in how well this integrates with MS Project, as well as how easy it is for Project users to switch. The article I found GanttPV through ( http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2006/12/01/30-essential-pieces-of-free-and-open-software-for-windows ) seems adamant that it's a Project killer. But I'd like to hear some other opinions. Opinions ok This is just an estimate of functionality by a look at the screenshots of the application. I'd say it has 10% of the functionality of MS Project. Mike -- Michael Lake -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Software RAID Questions
As the office champion at Doing Stupid Things With Raid (TM) this interests me a bit. I'd like to see how you get it working in the end. I don't have any specific advice, but things you might like to play with include: * Read the manual page for mdadm.conf, which is an (optional) config file which describes your RAID config. You essentially have to build that by hand after building your RAID array, and make your mdadm.conf file match it. It sometimes helps when your RAID config can't be detected on boot up, but it is nearly always not required. * Make sure that your USB drivers and things are loaded before you run mdadm. If necessary you may need to play with the order of things in your /etc/rc*.d or /etc/init.d files. It may be the case that you have to re-run your mdadm with your mdadm.conf file after your USB drivers load and your USB system is started. Put some debugging into your /etc/init.d files if required. * If that doesn't work, have a think about what is required to restart your RAID array (mdadm man page will help here), and perhaps run that from somewhere like /etc/rc.d/rc.local -- Del Babel Com Australia http://www.babel.com.au/ ph: 02 9368 0728 fax: 02 9368 0758 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ?
Yeah I forgot to mention that /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net are banners created by rc.local. What I'm trying to modify is the actual login: prompt itself. I'm still waiting for a reply from some of my Unix colleagues :) -Original Message- From: Martin Visser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 17 September 2007 11:09 PM To: Minh Van Le Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ? Minh, The local login prompt is read from /etc/issue, the networked prompt from /etc/issue.net You may need to check startup scripts in /etc/rc.d whether they overwrite any changes you make here. There are special escape sequence for these files that you can google for that are used as replacable vars for things like the hostname, username, date, etc That is a pretty ancient version of Redhat you are playing with!! Martin On 9/17/07, Minh Van Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to remember how to change my remote login: prompt in Red Hat 6.2. Here's the tty# local login screen with the hostname sandbox preceding the login: prompt: Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) Kernel 2.2.14-5.0 on an i586 sandbox login: But when I try to connect remotely (ie. via ssh/telnet) I get a login: prompt without the hostname: Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) Kernel 2.2.14-5.0 on an i586 login: I've tried altering the default mingetty's in /etc/inittab to mgetty -p '@ login: ' tty1 but it gives me some kind of AT modem string and I'm unable to enter a username/password at all. I also don't think changing tty1 to pts/0 etc would work. Does anybody know how to customize the remote login: prompt in Red Hat ? Do I have to change something in inetd.conf ? Thanks ! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Software RAID Questions
Hi, the proper way to do it is to generate an /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf config file and have udadm/udev do the right thing on boot. I have simply create the config file as per a number of howtos and from the manpage: echo 'DEVICE /dev/hd*[0-9] /dev/sd*[0-9]' mdadm.conf mdadm --detail --scan mdadm.conf This will create a prototype config file that describes currently active arrays that are known to be made from partitions of IDE or SCSI drives. This file should be reviewed before being used as it may contain unwanted detail. You can probably adapt that. Not sure which distro you are using, but on an ubuntu i believe that works ok. You may also need to edit /etc/default/mdadm and make sure AUTOSTART=true. this also changed depending on what version of ubuntu you are using. The udev/mdadm/kernel interactions can bite a bit here :( upstart might help dave slug list wrote: Hi All I am Mucking around wit setting up some Software RAID Disks. I brought 5 x 500Gb USB2 external Disks and got them really Cheap. I have a situation where I dont need Llightening fast access to files, but I need a Lot of Space and as Much redundancy as I can get. So I want to add these 5 x 500Gb disks into a RAID 5 array. I used the following command: mdadm -v --create /dev/md1 --level=raid5 --raid-devices=5 --spare-devices=0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdg1 And now have a running /dev/md1. After running a mkfs -t ext3 /dev/md1 I got a Fully formatted Data Area and Mounted it to /mnt/raid All was well and I copied over Data and had a good old Play around. Then I re-booted the box, I got a MD1 does not exist type of error so my forst question is this. How do I make it Stick? How do I make the /dev/md1 still be recognised after a Reboot? My Next Step is to mount my /home on the RAID array, but first lets see if I can get it up and running after a Re-boot. Kev -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux and Windows interoperabiliy
I've been browsing at some Unix interoperability programs and emulators like Cygwin, Windows Services for Unix (SFU), coLinux, Uwin, VMWare etc. My quick question is, Is Windows Services for Unix (SFU) better than Cygwin ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ?
yes, some googling resulted in finding at least one version of getty.c that only had login: hard-coded. However there are lots of reference to pam_user_prompt which seem to indicate that you can add a pam module to allow a change to be configured. Someone might be able to add a clue - or just keep on following the google conga! On 9/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minh == Minh Van Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Minh Yeah I forgot to mention that /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net are Minh banners created by rc.local. Minh What I'm trying to modify is the actual login: prompt itself. It depends on which getty program you're using. For mgetty, the -p option should work; for the Linux getty program there is no way. -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:37:00PM +1000, Visser, Martin wrote: Martin, Even easier, might be get basically any Windows loaded hard drive, stick it in a USB hard drive case and boot from that (assuming your model I have a selection of USB hard drive adapters (who needs a case :-) so I'll see what I can get hold of at work tomorrow. I'm sure I'll be able to get hold of a drive for the few minutes it'll take to flash the BIOS. I'll probably still have a go at building a bootable Windows CD in case I ever need one again. Even if the hardware such as video is substantially different you should at least be able to get it to boot into safe mode. (Ugly I know). Appearance is unimportant, I only want to do one thing then I'll go back to Linux :-) Thanks, John -- In my cats case, if they're well fed, it just means they have more time to play with the little squeaking feathery/furry things that they find and bring home. It's probably more humane on the wildlife to starve the buggers. -- Iain Rae -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
Even easier, might be get basically any Windows loaded hard drive, stick it in a USB hard drive case and boot from that (assuming your model allows you to boot from USB hard drives). If it is a notebook harddrive you could even temporarily replace it with the one in your notebook. Even if the hardware such as video is substantially different you should at least be able to get it to boot into safe mode. (Ugly I know). Martin Visser Technology Consultant Consulting Integration Technology Solutions Group - HP Services 410 Concord Road Rhodes NSW 2138 Australia Mobile: +61-411-254-513 Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify HP immediately by return email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Clarke Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2007 5:19 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how? On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:53:04PM +1000, Visser, Martin wrote: I'll see if I can get answer internally. Thanks Martin. I'm a little annoyed that when my laptop died the motherboard was replaced under warranty, the replacement had a very old BIOS, and they didn't set the model and serial numbers. An alternative might be to see if you can hold of one of the Windows PE or similar bootable CDs. I didn't know such a thing existed. I gave up on Windows years ago :-) We do use it at work though, so I'll see what I can do. Thanks, John -- If you want to watch [a hard drive] die a slow agonizing death, whilst incoveniencing the maximum number of your lusers, install it in the part of your news spool that handles alt.sex.* -- Brian Kantor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ?
Yeah I've been Googling all last night and it sounds like we've browsed the same pages :) I saw some PAM stuff there but it sounds a little tricky. I think that page was referring to some non-Redhat distribution, and the /etc/pam.d/*.so stuff looks tricky to me. I'm currently playing with /sbin/mgetty -p login prompt ... but can't seem to get it to work. According to the in.telnetd man page, it defaults to /sbin/login and I can specify an alternative login program but 1. I don't know the Linux authentication / login architecture so I'm taking stabs in the dark :) 2. I forgot how it all works except a few vague memories man in.telnetd: SYNOPSIS /usr/sbin/in.telnetd [-hns] [-a authmode] [-D debugmode] [-L loginprg] [-S tos] [-X authtype] [-edebug] [-debug port] /etc/inetd.conf: # original entry #telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd # testing telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd -L /sbin/mgetty Damn it if only I kept those #linuxaus mIRC logs from 1998 ! I knew I should've :) -Original Message- From: Martin Visser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2007 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Minh Van Le; slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ? yes, some googling resulted in finding at least one version of getty.c that only had login: hard-coded. However there are lots of reference to pam_user_prompt which seem to indicate that you can add a pam module to allow a change to be configured. Someone might be able to add a clue - or just keep on following the google conga! On 9/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minh == Minh Van Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Minh Yeah I forgot to mention that /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net are Minh banners created by rc.local. Minh What I'm trying to modify is the actual login: prompt itself. It depends on which getty program you're using. For mgetty, the -p option should work; for the Linux getty program there is no way. -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Recommendation for a VPN for linux
Hi, - Can anybody recommend on a free VPN for linux ? - I know that it can be installed on top of IPSec (with userspace tools like Openswan , http://www.openswan.org/). - I know that you can create a VPN using PPTP (Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol) - What are the advantages/disadvantages of using solution like openswan IPSec VPN comparing to PPTP ? rgs, Ian -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ?
Minh == Minh Van Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Minh Yeah I forgot to mention that /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net are Minh banners created by rc.local. Minh What I'm trying to modify is the actual login: prompt itself. It depends on which getty program you're using. For mgetty, the -p option should work; for the Linux getty program there is no way. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a VPN for linux
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:34:10AM +0200, Ian Brown wrote: Hi, - Can anybody recommend on a free VPN for linux ? - I know that it can be installed on top of IPSec (with userspace tools like Openswan , http://www.openswan.org/). - I know that you can create a VPN using PPTP (Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol) - What are the advantages/disadvantages of using solution like openswan IPSec VPN comparing to PPTP ? I would recommend openvpn, it works with linux and windows. it works through http proxies and can be authorised and authenticated with x509 cert's. I have found it a lot simple to install and manage than ipsec http://openvpn.net/ rgs, Ian -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
Hi my understanding was that hp was moving towards, non windows upgrades of bios/firmware etc. This being done with either free dos or linux boot images Alex On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:37:00PM +1000, Visser, Martin wrote: Even easier, might be get basically any Windows loaded hard drive, stick it in a USB hard drive case and boot from that (assuming your model allows you to boot from USB hard drives). If it is a notebook harddrive you could even temporarily replace it with the one in your notebook. Even if the hardware such as video is substantially different you should at least be able to get it to boot into safe mode. (Ugly I know). Martin Visser Technology Consultant Consulting Integration Technology Solutions Group - HP Services 410 Concord Road Rhodes NSW 2138 Australia Mobile: +61-411-254-513 Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify HP immediately by return email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Clarke Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2007 5:19 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how? On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:53:04PM +1000, Visser, Martin wrote: I'll see if I can get answer internally. Thanks Martin. I'm a little annoyed that when my laptop died the motherboard was replaced under warranty, the replacement had a very old BIOS, and they didn't set the model and serial numbers. An alternative might be to see if you can hold of one of the Windows PE or similar bootable CDs. I didn't know such a thing existed. I gave up on Windows years ago :-) We do use it at work though, so I'll see what I can do. Thanks, John -- If you want to watch [a hard drive] die a slow agonizing death, whilst incoveniencing the maximum number of your lusers, install it in the part of your news spool that handles alt.sex.* -- Brian Kantor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Epson 34 90 Ubuntu
system administration printing new printer local or network manufacturer model add driver or select similar model if driver not available. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am a Linux newbie. Can anyone tell me how to get the Epson 3490 working properly in Ubuntu 7.04. The rpm drivers work fine in Fedora but if you use alien it does not work as well. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Lee --- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za -- For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a VPN for linux
Ian Brown wrote: Hi, - Can anybody recommend on a free VPN for linux ? There is no other choice aside from OpenVPN IMHO :) dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Sendmail Woes
Greetings We have a client running FC6 as a mail server. It doesn't do anything unusual - acts as primary MX for it's domain, accepts incoming mail, runs spamd and a few other things across it and then hands it off to an MS Exchange Server box for the staff to pick up in Outlook. Outgoing mail is taken by the MS box and handed off to the mail server as a smart host. All works well except for... We constanly see the messages like this in the mail log: Sep 18 06:06:05 m1 sendmail[30958]: l8HJ66xS030958: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 06:17:38 m1 sendmail[31148]: l8HJHb5i031148: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from mail40.messagelabs.com, from= Sep 18 06:30:06 m1 sendmail[31182]: l8HJU6Dv031182: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 06:33:04 m1 sendmail[31188]: l8HJX54L031188: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 07:04:43 m1 sendmail[31342]: l8HK4hCw031342: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 07:04:51 m1 sendmail[31344]: l8HK4qOx031344: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 07:07:14 m1 sendmail[31500]: l8HK7F4w031500: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from=t Sep 18 07:13:05 m1 sendmail[31516]: l8HKD4Xq031516: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from qsrv01sl.mx.bigpond.com, from= Sep 18 07:31:48 m1 sendmail[31558]: l8HKVkGM031558: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 07:34:13 m1 sendmail[31564]: l8HKYBoL031564: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from qsrv01ps.mx.bigpond.com, from= Sep 18 07:42:33 m1 sendmail[31582]: l8HKgXed031582: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 07:42:58 m1 sendmail[31584]: l8HKgwxh031584: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from qsrv03ps.mx.bigpond.com, from= Sep 18 07:53:04 m1 sendmail[31648]: l8HKr4Px031648: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 08:08:50 m1 sendmail[31723]: l8HL8owr031723: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 08:23:51 m1 sendmail[31970]: l8HLNpYY031970: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 08:23:54 m1 sendmail[31972]: l8HLNrU7031972: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from oberon.tpgi.com.au, from= Sep 18 08:29:37 m1 sendmail[31986]: l8HLTakK031986: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from host81-151-82-230.range81-151.btcentralplus.com, from= Sep 18 08:50:58 m1 sendmail[32143]: l8HLovdK032143: SYSERR(root): collect: read timeout on connection from mail40.messagelabs.com, from= and so on and so forth (addresses obfuscated for privacy). when I run a ps -eaf | grep sendmail at any time, I see things like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ps -eaf | grep sendmail root 873 3079 0 10:37 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0bZx3000873 mail40.messagelabs.com [216.82.245.83]: DATA root 885 3079 0 10:43 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0h5SZ000885 mail.vanuatu.com.vu [202.80.33.51]: DATA root 887 3079 0 10:43 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0hMVh000887 mail.vanuatu.com.vu [202.80.33.51]: DATA root 891 3079 0 10:43 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0hppk000891 mail.vanuatu.com.vu [202.80.33.51]: DATA root 893 3079 0 10:44 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0iOaa000893 mail.vanuatu.com.vu [202.80.33.51]: DATA root 895 3079 0 10:45 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0j1l2000895 oberon.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.4]: DATA root 909 3079 0 10:52 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0q6ri000909 mail1.emailcash.com.au [202.177.214.85]: DATA root 936 3079 0 10:59 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I0xjWW000936 mail9.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.104]: DATA root 1128 3079 0 11:03 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I13323001128 oberon.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.4]: DATA root 1212 3079 0 11:06 ?00:00:00 sendmail: l8I16cQU001212
RE: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ?
Hmm. After taking a look at the login process (http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/linux_hllogin.html) I think I'll have to recompile /bin/login from the util-linux-2.10f-7 package to get it to work the way I want. My virtual consoles display the hostname preceding the text login: prompt because mingetty et al. support translation characters in /etc/gettydefs eg. @S (for hostname) However apparently gettys don't work over a network connection (eg. with inetd telnet pseudo terminals (pts)) because they're only made for tty/S stuff. And because the in.telnetd wrapper in inetd.conf (essentially telnetd) invokes /bin/login as the default login program, I'll have to either find another login program to use or recompile the one from util-linux-2.10f-7 with something like gethostaddr() or something or hardcode the text I want :) I've tried writing a shell script to use with in.telnetd -L login program, login.sh: #!/bin/bash echo `hostname` login: which doesn't work :) Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) Kernel 2.2.14-5.0 on an i586 telnetd: /login.sh: Exec format error . Connection to host lost. shrug Heh. -Original Message- From: Martin Visser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2007 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Minh Van Le; slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ? yes, some googling resulted in finding at least one version of getty.c that only had login: hard-coded. However there are lots of reference to pam_user_prompt which seem to indicate that you can add a pam module to allow a change to be configured. Someone might be able to add a clue - or just keep on following the google conga! On 9/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minh == Minh Van Le [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Minh Yeah I forgot to mention that /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net are Minh banners created by rc.local. Minh What I'm trying to modify is the actual login: prompt itself. It depends on which getty program you're using. For mgetty, the -p option should work; for the Linux getty program there is no way. -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a VPN for linux
Hello, - Thanks! - I agree that openVPN is easy manage, as you say. - I am interested in comparing it to IPSec; ignore the management issues; I agree they are **very** important, but I am interested to compare the essence of these two options: which is better in terms of performance ? which is more secure ? which seems to be the one which will be the preferred option in the future? pros and cons ? This is a citation from openswan book (Packt Publishing): (chapter 10, Encrypting the local network) - One popular solution is VPNs based on SSL, but the problem with SSL of course is that it uses a TCP connection. An attacker can send a single spoofed TCP-RST packet to kill an SSL-based VPN tunnel. Another popular solution is OpenVPN, which provides a relatively easy to set up and use UDP-based VPN. However, OpenVPN clients are only available for a limited number of operating systems. It also needs pre-arrangement; you need to know each others' SSL credentials. OpenVPN has also been exposed to much less scrutiny from the crypto research community. Other alternatives used are stunnel (SSL wrapping) or CIPE. The CIPE protocol has turned out to be fundamentally flawed, and should not be used at all. Stunnel solutions suffer from the TCPRST flag issue already mentioned. What do you have to say about this citation? Regards, Ian On 9/18/07, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:34:10AM +0200, Ian Brown wrote: Hi, - Can anybody recommend on a free VPN for linux ? - I know that it can be installed on top of IPSec (with userspace tools like Openswan , http://www.openswan.org/). - I know that you can create a VPN using PPTP (Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol) - What are the advantages/disadvantages of using solution like openswan IPSec VPN comparing to PPTP ? I would recommend openvpn, it works with linux and windows. it works through http proxies and can be authorised and authenticated with x509 cert's. I have found it a lot simple to install and manage than ipsec http://openvpn.net/ rgs, Ian -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG770kkZz88chpJ2MRAiFcAJ9cyA9Vpb41zXm+x41UMKpuDn0sAgCfboD3 tv29EhZld3xu9QaJ6YSQrPA= =Wppl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a VPN for linux
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 03:39:01PM +0200, Ian Brown wrote: Hello, - Thanks! - I agree that openVPN is easy manage, as you say. - I am interested in comparing it to IPSec; ignore the management issues; I agree they are **very** important, but I am interested to compare the essence of these two options: which is better in terms of performance ? which is more secure ? which seems to be the one which will be the preferred option in the future? pros and cons ? How long is a piece of string ? What context is this in ? ipsec and openvpn (ssl) - use similar encryption technics - aes, blowfish, This is a citation from openswan book (Packt Publishing): (chapter 10, Encrypting the local network) - One popular solution is VPNs based on SSL, but the problem with SSL of course is that it uses a TCP connection. An attacker can send a single spoofed TCP-RST packet to kill an SSL-based VPN tunnel. Another popular solution is OpenVPN, which provides a relatively easy to set up and use UDP-based VPN. However, OpenVPN clients are only available for a limited number of operating systems. It also needs pre-arrangement; you need to know each others' SSL credentials. This was true with the old psk's, but 2.x allows for x509 pki, send a certificate out . OpenVPN has also been exposed to much less scrutiny from the crypto research community. Other alternatives used are stunnel (SSL wrapping) or CIPE. The CIPE protocol has turned out to be fundamentally flawed, and should not be used at all. Stunnel solutions suffer from the TCPRST flag issue already mentioned. What do you have to say about this citation? I think this was written on the old openvpn 1.0 version. there has been a lot of changes into 2.x some security stuff is addressed on the openvpn site http://openvpn.net/security.html and a faq http://openvpn.net/faq.html#security-issues I would suggest the next place to go is the openswan and openvpn mailing lists and pose these questions there - short of looking through the code your self. One think I have found to be a pain though between ipsec (openswan on 2.6) v's openvpn is openvpn gives you an interface easy to write iptables rules against. With ipsec packets are encapsulated as they enter an interface dependant on your ipsec filtering rules - this used to be a pain for writing iptables rules. There was also problems with NAT and ipsec. propper routing settings - setting the right source address to fit your ipsec filters Regards, Ian On 9/18/07, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:34:10AM +0200, Ian Brown wrote: Hi, - Can anybody recommend on a free VPN for linux ? - I know that it can be installed on top of IPSec (with userspace tools like Openswan , http://www.openswan.org/). - I know that you can create a VPN using PPTP (Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol) - What are the advantages/disadvantages of using solution like openswan IPSec VPN comparing to PPTP ? I would recommend openvpn, it works with linux and windows. it works through http proxies and can be authorised and authenticated with x509 cert's. I have found it a lot simple to install and manage than ipsec http://openvpn.net/ rgs, Ian -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG770kkZz88chpJ2MRAiFcAJ9cyA9Vpb41zXm+x41UMKpuDn0sAgCfboD3 tv29EhZld3xu9QaJ6YSQrPA= =Wppl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] WiMAX 802.16 wireless
david wrote: I'm being offered Wimax 802.16 as an alternative to an existing SHDSL. The base station is on top of UTS, and my place is about 1km line of site. (as the crow flies) Does anyone have any knowledge of 802.16? Is there anything I should be aware of? I'm slightly worried that the first rain squall will drop our connection, although the ISP insists that wont happen. The upside is that I will no longer be reliant on Telstra copper. Hurrah! David, I have been using a consumer level wireless access bridge for a couple of years. It is surprisingly sturdy in rain and sunshine. However, my previous wireless modem a few years back seemed to require a particular constellation of stars and sun-spot activity to work at all. I am not sure where either base station is but I doubt it is less than 1km or line of site. I have also heard something along the lines that rain drops of the same frequency could cause interference - but I would guess this would be addressed by using a different part of the Spectrum. So, to cut a long story short, I look forward to your reports of whether WiMax lives upto its promises. Marghanita Sorry, I just realised this isn't really Linux related, but I know there are some smart network folks out there, so I hope nobody minds. David. -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Software RAID Questions
Dave == Dave Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hi, the proper way to do it is to generate an Dave /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf config file and have udadm/udev do the Dave right thing on boot. I have simply create the config file as Dave per a number of howtos and from the manpage: You probably need to do something to get consistent device naming too ... otherwise the drive that was /dev/sdc this time may end up as /dev/sdg next time, and things may not work. Peter C -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au ERTOS within National ICT Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] WiMAX 802.16 wireless
I believe unwired uses a WiMAX like technology, i have an unwired modem (i dont think modulate-demodulate is the right term, maybe radio or bridge) although i use it through an internode plan (no longer offered) its just pppoe to linux and works nicely. with only one bar of signal i get my full download speed. it is very directional and seems to be very funny in terms of where it can get a signal. however where i use it, it gets full signal and goes very well. i have no problems smashing my monthly downloads. it is very latent though, giving about a 200ms ping where adsl would give 20 i dont know how well actual unwired goes on linux, as their client seems to use something other than vanilla pppoe. my sister who works in dick smiths powerhouse, commented that about 1/10 people return them, as despite living in a coverage area - they still cant get signal. so YMMV in that regard. Dean On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:49:30 +1000, Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: david wrote: I'm being offered Wimax 802.16 as an alternative to an existing SHDSL. The base station is on top of UTS, and my place is about 1km line of site. (as the crow flies) Does anyone have any knowledge of 802.16? Is there anything I should be aware of? I'm slightly worried that the first rain squall will drop our connection, although the ISP insists that wont happen. The upside is that I will no longer be reliant on Telstra copper. Hurrah! David, I have been using a consumer level wireless access bridge for a couple of years. It is surprisingly sturdy in rain and sunshine. However, my previous wireless modem a few years back seemed to require a particular constellation of stars and sun-spot activity to work at all. I am not sure where either base station is but I doubt it is less than 1km or line of site. I have also heard something along the lines that rain drops of the same frequency could cause interference - but I would guess this would be addressed by using a different part of the Spectrum. So, to cut a long story short, I look forward to your reports of whether WiMax lives upto its promises. Marghanita Sorry, I just realised this isn't really Linux related, but I know there are some smart network folks out there, so I hope nobody minds. David. -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
John == John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Unfortunately HP only provide updates as a package with a John Windows (not DOS) program called WinFlash. You can get a Win98 image that'll boot from a USB stick (assuming your laptop can cope with that) from http://www.bootdisk.com/ -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au ERTOS within National ICT Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GanttPV?
Peter Hardy wrote: Just wondering if anybody's got any opinions about GanttPV ( http://www.pureviolet.net/ganttpv/ )? I'm particularly interested in how well this integrates with MS Project, as well as how easy it is for Project users to switch. The article I found GanttPV through ( http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2006/12/01/30-essential-pieces-of-free-and-open-software-for-windows ) seems adamant that it's a Project killer. But I'd like to hear some other opinions. If you want open source with functionality close to MS Project then this http://www.openworkbench.org/ looks good. Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Support Unit Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GanttPV?
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want open source with functionality close to MS Project then this http://www.openworkbench.org/ looks good. Shame that it is Windows-only :( -- We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - The Boss, Dilbert pgpZu2xkMl1UB.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Software RAID Questions
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 09:16:14AM +1000, Peter Chubb wrote: Dave == Dave Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hi, the proper way to do it is to generate an Dave /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf config file and have udadm/udev do the Dave right thing on boot. I have simply create the config file as Dave per a number of howtos and from the manpage: You probably need to do something to get consistent device naming too ... otherwise the drive that was /dev/sdc this time may end up as /dev/sdg next time, and things may not work. should not matter just use some thing like this # by default, scan all partitions (/proc/partitions) for MD superblocks. # alternatively, specify devices to scan, using wildcards if desired. DEVICE partitions use ext2/3 labels and remove just about all reliance upon consistent labelling Peter C -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au ERTOS within National ICT Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Software RAID Questions
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 12:46:31PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 09:16:14AM +1000, Peter Chubb wrote: Dave == Dave Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hi, the proper way to do it is to generate an Dave /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf config file and have udadm/udev do the Dave right thing on boot. I have simply create the config file as Dave per a number of howtos and from the manpage: You probably need to do something to get consistent device naming too ... otherwise the drive that was /dev/sdc this time may end up as /dev/sdg next time, and things may not work. should not matter just use some thing like this # by default, scan all partitions (/proc/partitions) for MD superblocks. # alternatively, specify devices to scan, using wildcards if desired. DEVICE partitions there is more (my complete mdadm.conf # mdadm.conf # # Please refer to mdadm.conf(5) for information about this file. # # by default, scan all partitions (/proc/partitions) for MD superblocks. # alternatively, specify devices to scan, using wildcards if desired. DEVICE partitions # auto-create devices with Debian standard permissions CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes # automatically tag new arrays as belonging to the local system HOMEHOST system # instruct the monitoring daemon where to send mail alerts MAILADDR root ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=f719d644:a5e71a55:c0def50d:f7755beb ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=a7c9742e:25b76b3e:4c32b09d:a890b140 ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=84d040c2:ca5f2a29:1c5fe114:e04e8950 The uuid are assign when you create the array. On boot up, mdadm checks each of the partitions to see if its part of an array. use ext2/3 labels and remove just about all reliance upon consistent labelling Peter C -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au ERTOS within National ICT Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Woes
Nigel It wouldnt surprise me if its NOT from YOUR end. This looks like some host connecting and then hanging up, without informing you(r sendmail). Jobst -- COFFEE.COM not found - Reboot user (Y/N) ? | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] GanttPV?
If you are after a replacement to MS Project have a look at OpenProj http://openproj.org/openproj -- Regards, Graham Smith -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a VPN for linux
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:06:21PM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: Ian Brown wrote: Hi, - Can anybody recommend on a free VPN for linux ? There is no other choice aside from OpenVPN IMHO :) That's what I've heard. But for the sake of completeness, has anyone tried LogMeIn / hamachi? (www.hamachi.cc) It's not opensource, but I'd still be interested in an opinion for the Linux bit. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a VPN for linux
I play games with it all the time, thanks go to wine also Dean Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:06:21PM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: Ian Brown wrote: Hi, - Can anybody recommend on a free VPN for linux ? There is no other choice aside from OpenVPN IMHO :) That's what I've heard. But for the sake of completeness, has anyone tried LogMeIn / hamachi? (www.hamachi.cc) It's not opensource, but I'd still be interested in an opinion for the Linux bit. Matt -- http://fragfest.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
