Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:26:42 +0800 jam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 29 May 2008 09:49:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? > > > > > > To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text > > > based (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, > > > and editable in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open > > > Office Word Processor > > > - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in > > > pdf, so it's easily printable cross-platform. > > > > > > I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and > > > Docbook, but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and > > > will take too much time to learn. > > > > If it is really simple stuff then go back in time to groff > > > > This is the way man pages are written. It is installed on most > > systems I would guess. > > What he ment to say your honour sir, > > You can learn simple groff in 5 minutes > > You can do the utmost amazing stuff with groff, it's ideal for > backing up, for comments, for version control, and it's trivially > easy to use W Stevens did all the stuff for 'Unix Network > Programming' upto camera ready pre-press with groff And, using it with the MOM macros makes it closer to a "modern" markup language: http://linuxgazette.net/107/schaffter.html http://gretchen.homelinux.org/mom/mom.html > > James > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] upgrading complicated installs
david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts. > > I've got a feisty desktop that has grown like topsy. It's running > several services eg: webserver, mail , postgres, mysql, apt-caching, > Nvidia proprietary drivers, accounting software, etc etc.. lots of > "stuff". Probably things I've completely forgotten about. > > At one time, I changed the UUID's in fstab to the old fashioned /dev > id's (because of compatibility issues at the time with Mondo). Some > things have been installed from source, some from .deb that I have > downloaded, and most from simple apt-get. > > To complicate things, the box already has 4 hard drives installed, so > installing another one for copying is probably not an option. > > In other words, it's a complete mish-mash. > > Some things are critical, some important, some trivial. > > I also made the mistake of using Automatix, and I've read that it has > the potential to completely break upgrades. It does. With luck you may not hit them, but it probably makes the automated tools unsafe for you to use. > The system works fine, but it's getting old and I want to upgrade to > Hardy. I think maybe a complete new Hardy, but what's the way to make > sure I don't lose stuff... or is it too late :) > > I'm sure there is no simple answer, but does anyone have any thoughts > or experience? Are you comfortable upgrading the system by hand, and with recovering if it fails to boot because the boot loader, kernel, fstab, or drive ordering is mangled? If not then I advise, as the other poster did, that you create a nice, fresh box[1] and migrate services to it one by one. Then, finally, reformat the current system. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] I advise one dedicated to being a server, with no GUI installed, so that you are not tempted to put desktop-ish things on it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird addon?
Cant you just put filters on the "sent" folder? Dean Michael Still wrote: Nigel Allen wrote: A customer has a requirement for outgoing emails to be "auto-filed" as they are sent. The idea is that when the send presses "send", a dialog box pops up and asks them for a customer number. The customer number will be embedded in a new header which will then be used to file a copy of the email - not sure how yet - maybe procmail? This sounds a lot like your customer wants a document management system to me. I've never used any open source document management systems, but Alfresco (http://www.alfresco.com/) have been around for a while and might do what you want. The problem with document management systems is of course that they would require your customer to take on a whole management methodology, which might be more effort than they want... Mikal -- http://fragfest.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] upgrading complicated installs
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:19 PM, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts. > > I've got a feisty desktop that has grown like topsy. It's running > several services eg: webserver, mail , postgres, mysql, apt-caching, > Nvidia proprietary drivers, accounting software, etc etc.. lots of > "stuff". Probably things I've completely forgotten about. > > At one time, I changed the UUID's in fstab to the old fashioned /dev > id's (because of compatibility issues at the time with Mondo). Some > things have been installed from source, some from .deb that I have > downloaded, and most from simple apt-get. > > To complicate things, the box already has 4 hard drives installed, so > installing another one for copying is probably not an option. > > In other words, it's a complete mish-mash. > > Some things are critical, some important, some trivial. > > I also made the mistake of using Automatix, and I've read that it has > the potential to completely break upgrades. > > The system works fine, but it's getting old and I want to upgrade to > Hardy. I think maybe a complete new Hardy, but what's the way to make > sure I don't lose stuff... or is it too late :) > > I'm sure there is no simple answer, but does anyone have any thoughts or > experience? backup boot to hardy live cd shrink fs install hardy on new partition/lvm (there is some manual work to make it install on lvm, pretty trivial once you learn what needs to be done) migrate services to hardy, trying to use repeatable steps (e.g. try to script all the commands you accumulate during the process). Just an idea... --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
On Thursday 29 May 2008 09:49:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? > > > > To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based > > (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable > > in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor > > - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so > > it's easily printable cross-platform. > > > > I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, > > but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too much > > time to learn. > > If it is really simple stuff then go back in time to groff > > This is the way man pages are written. It is installed on most systems > I would guess. What he ment to say your honour sir, You can learn simple groff in 5 minutes You can do the utmost amazing stuff with groff, it's ideal for backing up, for comments, for version control, and it's trivially easy to use W Stevens did all the stuff for 'Unix Network Programming' upto camera ready pre-press with groff James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] upgrading complicated installs
I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts. I've got a feisty desktop that has grown like topsy. It's running several services eg: webserver, mail , postgres, mysql, apt-caching, Nvidia proprietary drivers, accounting software, etc etc.. lots of "stuff". Probably things I've completely forgotten about. At one time, I changed the UUID's in fstab to the old fashioned /dev id's (because of compatibility issues at the time with Mondo). Some things have been installed from source, some from .deb that I have downloaded, and most from simple apt-get. To complicate things, the box already has 4 hard drives installed, so installing another one for copying is probably not an option. In other words, it's a complete mish-mash. Some things are critical, some important, some trivial. I also made the mistake of using Automatix, and I've read that it has the potential to completely break upgrades. The system works fine, but it's getting old and I want to upgrade to Hardy. I think maybe a complete new Hardy, but what's the way to make sure I don't lose stuff... or is it too late :) I'm sure there is no simple answer, but does anyone have any thoughts or experience? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird addon?
On 29/05/2008 11:24 AM, Peter Rundle wrote: A customer has a requirement for outgoing emails to be "auto-filed" as they are sent. I'm not sure how you might prompt for a customer number but one idea may be to just use Thunderbirds mail filters to sort the mail. For example if you had a filter on the "Sent" folder to search the "To: address and then move the mail into a folder with the given domain name. If only if it were that simple :) There is no correlation between the email addressee and a "customer number" or even a domain name. Think of it more that an email may be received, sent or replied to that "is in relation to" a customer number and you would have a better idea. The person responding knows the "number" but that is because they manage that account. There may or may not be a discernible relationship. I know that it would be possible to create a filter per customer and thus each filter would search for "To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and move the e-mail to the folder "customer1", second filter for customer2 etc but whether this could be a single generic filter using a variable for the domain name to folder mapping I'm not sure. If they have a large customer base that was forever changing, creating a filter for each customer could become a bit of a maintenance nightmare. There are 600 (currently) "customers" with "n" possible email addresses. It might actually be a customer's representative, a committee member at home, even an external contractor or tradesperson - they all need to be "tagged" by the respondent. If the folders are on an Imap server using maildir format, then each e-mail file would in fact be moved to separate directory. HTH Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re:Thunderbird addon?
On 29/05/2008 11:16 AM, bill wrote: I'm not an Admin or anything, but assuming that there is not a new customer number for each email and that you have a separate Thunderbird Folder for each customer:- Preferences/copies and Folders/"Place replies in folder of message being replied to" I assume that Customer details are saved in the Address Book and could include their Customer Number (under Other?). Of course none of this is of any use if you have Users who are incapable of actually being trained in using Thunderbird properly. Otherwise, why not look at using a Browser-based email set-up such as ISPs usually have? Just a couple of random thoughts Bill Thanks for the suggestions bill. Unfortunately it's not quite as simple as that. The addressee could be anyone (think committee) with any email address at any domain. What we need to capture is the "customer number" that the email is concerned with. N/ Nigel Allen wrote: A customer has a requirement for outgoing emails to be "auto-filed" as they are sent. The idea is that when the send presses "send", a dialog box pops up and asks them for a customer number. The customer number will be embedded in a new header which will then be used to file a copy of the email - not sure how yet - maybe procmail? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
Michael Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sonia Hamilton wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? I use a combination of tools; Markdown via PanDoc and ConTeXt being key among them, for different purposes. >> To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based (so >> it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable in vim), >> for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor - bullet >> points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so it's easily >> printable cross-platform. I have similar requirements in a business context, as well as producing "Word" compatible (read trivially editable) content. >> I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, >> but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too >> much time to learn. Any language is going to take time to learn, although you picked three that are either inappropriate (Postscript) or extremely complex outside their limited area. > Look at the following Wiki text markup. > > Markdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown > RestructuredText: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html > Textile: http://www.textism.com/tools/textile/ > > Pick one that you like the syntax of AND that has the features that you want. > Here is what I have found on their features: > >MarkdownRestructuredTextTextile > tables?no, use HTML tags yes yes > can include divs? yes noyes > class/attributes? manual noyes If you are processing Markdown (or, in fact, most of the other formats mentioned here) I strongly suggest you look at the 'pandoc' package. It is a nice, effective document translator. It can read a range of formats including "enhanced Markdown", which I use, and then output a wide range of formats including HTML, RTF, and PDF via LaTeX or ConTeXt. It also turns the "tables?" question for Markdown into a "yes" option. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird addon?
On 28/05/2008 11:53 PM, Michael Still wrote: Nigel Allen wrote: A customer has a requirement for outgoing emails to be "auto-filed" as they are sent. The idea is that when the send presses "send", a dialog box pops up and asks them for a customer number. The customer number will be embedded in a new header which will then be used to file a copy of the email - not sure how yet - maybe procmail? This sounds a lot like your customer wants a document management system to me. I've never used any open source document management systems, but Alfresco (http://www.alfresco.com/) have been around for a while and might do what you want. - the last thing they need is an EDMS system - they currently parallel run two of them :) It really is an email issue. The problem with document management systems is of course that they would require your customer to take on a whole management methodology, which might be more effort than they want... Mikal -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:27:39 +1000 Sonia Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? > > To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based > (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and > editable in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office > Word Processor > - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so > it's easily printable cross-platform. > > I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, > but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too > much time to learn. Hi Sonia, I do a lot of writing in plain text with very simple markup. I tend to use Muse, but that is emacs based. Others are: - AFT (Almost Free Text) - Muse (for use with Emacs only) - reStructuredText - txt2tags - YODL: a more complex markup language that lets you define your own "macros" and terms - "Wiki" languages: there are a number of these available. None of these provide really good support if you need general indexing, and the support for cross referencing varies. I personally do not like reStructuredText because of the strange (to me) markup of sections and titles. I don't like the idea of writing in any markup language that is more complex than LaTeX. LaTeX is simple and unobtrusive for simple writing, and emacs will hide markers when the writing is more complex - don't know about vim. AFT and txt2tags are both simple and produce a variety of outputs. Each will produce LaTeX output and HTML. AFT will also output RTF if that is relevant to your needs. HTH, Alan > > Thanks, > > -- > Sonia Hamilton. > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird addon?
A customer has a requirement for outgoing emails to be "auto-filed" as they are sent. I'm not sure how you might prompt for a customer number but one idea may be to just use Thunderbirds mail filters to sort the mail. For example if you had a filter on the "Sent" folder to search the "To: address and then move the mail into a folder with the given domain name. I know that it would be possible to create a filter per customer and thus each filter would search for "To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and move the e-mail to the folder "customer1", second filter for customer2 etc but whether this could be a single generic filter using a variable for the domain name to folder mapping I'm not sure. If they have a large customer base that was forever changing, creating a filter for each customer could become a bit of a maintenance nightmare. If the folders are on an Imap server using maildir format, then each e-mail file would in fact be moved to separate directory. HTH Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re:Thunderbird addon?
I'm not an Admin or anything, but assuming that there is not a new customer number for each email and that you have a separate Thunderbird Folder for each customer:- Preferences/copies and Folders/"Place replies in folder of message being replied to" I assume that Customer details are saved in the Address Book and could include their Customer Number (under Other?). Of course none of this is of any use if you have Users who are incapable of actually being trained in using Thunderbird properly. Otherwise, why not look at using a Browser-based email set-up such as ISPs usually have? Just a couple of random thoughts Bill Subject: Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird addon? From: Michael Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 06:53:12 -0700 To: Nigel Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Nigel Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Slug Nigel Allen wrote: A customer has a requirement for outgoing emails to be "auto-filed" as they are sent. The idea is that when the send presses "send", a dialog box pops up and asks them for a customer number. The customer number will be embedded in a new header which will then be used to file a copy of the email - not sure how yet - maybe procmail? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions
On Thursday 29 May 2008 08:38:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking > for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to > have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside > and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply > > The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the > case). > > I have been looking at fuildtek (http://fluidtek.com.au/) they have > thermaltake rs wing case's, thinking of a cheap E2180 (down the page a > bit), I don't need much grunt, all it will be doing it running nfs > > > any thoughts ? Yes, you are deluded :-) 6 disks are NOISY no matter what. I use an ELX mini ITX box with a single WD 750G drive. Dead quiet and nice. The Antec NSK 1380 is just about in-audible at 1 meter and can take 2 disks if you fiddle and a uATX motherboard. (I use an AMD BE2300) which has grunt but is silent and cool (sustained about 35W for the whole system, Gigabyte + 2G +160G, - on the meter per 24 hours. The single police-strobe-blue is unpluggable, whereupon the box is dark. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
Sonia Hamilton wrote: Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so it's easily printable cross-platform. I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too much time to learn. Look at the following Wiki text markup. Markdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown RestructuredText: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html Textile: http://www.textism.com/tools/textile/ Pick one that you like the syntax of AND that has the features that you want. Here is what I have found on their features: MarkdownRestructuredText Textile tables?no, use HTML tags yes yes can include divs? yes noyes class/attributes? manual noyes There are bindings for these to many languages such as Python, Perl etc. Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Centre of Expertise Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. Think. Green. Do. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:27 +1000, Sonia Hamilton wrote: > Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? > > To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based > (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable > in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor > - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so > it's easily printable cross-platform. > > I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, > but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too much > time to learn. If it is really simple stuff then go back in time to groff This is the way man pages are written. It is installed on most systems I would guess. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
Quoting Sonia Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so it's easily printable cross-platform. I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too much time to learn. Maybe have a look at xml and xslt... Do your content in xml, then process it with xslt... You would be surprised how many companies out there do their content in xml and then format it using one or more of a handful of different tools. The companies grow and grow and grow and I've seen them sold off for lots of money. The time you 'invest' in learning then becomes a knowledge asset. You can 'learn-slowly' with this stuff.. one good site is xmlpitstop.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:27:39 +1000 Sonia Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? > > To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based > (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable > in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor > - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so > it's easily printable cross-platform. > > I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, > but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too much > time to learn. > Lyx may be useful to you. http://www.lyx.org/ "LyX is a document processor that encourages an approach to writing based on the structure of your documents (WYSIWYM), and not simply their appearance (WYSIWYG)." -- Regards Mick Pollard ( lunix ) BOFH Excuse of the day: Dynamic Software Corruption pgpN28hbEy03j.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] simple text formatting language
Sonia Hamilton wrote: > Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? > > To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based > (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable > in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor > - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so > it's easily printable cross-platform. Have a look at REST (ReStructured Tex). In particular, the following package: apt-get install python-docutils Has commands rst2latex and rst2html. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Partitions
David Liell wrote: Two other questions: 1. How do I direct my console output to the Clipboard so that I can forward it? Currently I do a cut & paste. ls > foo.txt (create and overwrite file) ls >> foo.txt (append to file) 2. How do I print documentation like "Intro to Linux" which is in HTML format? At present using Firefox I only get a small part of a page printed in the middle. I would really like to read some of this excellent documentation. If you want to print stuff from TLDP, probably easier to download the pdf versions - look here http://tldp.org/guides.html -- Sonia Hamilton. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] simple text formatting language
Can anyone recommend a simple text formatting language/package? To explain a bit more: I want a formatting language that's text based (so it's easier to keep track of diffs in source control, and editable in vim), for doing stuff you'd usually do in Open Office Word Processor - bullet points, bold/italic, tables, etc. I'd like output in pdf, so it's easily printable cross-platform. I've briefly thought about things like LaTeX, postscript and Docbook, but they all seem overkill for what I want to do, and will take too much time to learn. Thanks, -- Sonia Hamilton. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:57 AM, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going through exactly this process right now.. where silence is > really important.. at this point the case of choice is an Antec P182, > based on reviews. I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts too. > > They aren't the cheapest. I have absolutely no practical experience in this area, but from what I understood from overhearing conversations in that area I'd look at fanless boxes first. They might also be less power hungry. Googling for "fanless linux box" seems to turn up relevant links. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 20:14 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > Hi > > I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking > for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to > have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside > and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply > > The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the > case). > > I have been looking at fuildtek (http://fluidtek.com.au/) they have > thermaltake rs wing case's, thinking of a cheap E2180 (down the page a > bit), I don't need much grunt, all it will be doing it running nfs > > > any thoughts ? > > > Alex > its sort of OT, but I am guessing most people on the list have gone / > are going through this I'm going through exactly this process right now.. where silence is really important.. at this point the case of choice is an Antec P182, based on reviews. I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts too. They aren't the cheapest. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SATA DVD Burners [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
i haven't been able to boot knoppix off one yet. haven't really bothered messing around to work out why... On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 9:58 AM, David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/05/2008 10:55:49 PM: > >> >> Hi All, >> >> Has anyone got a SATA DVD burner working under linux yet? From the brief >> googling around it is supposed to be supported but I'm having no luck >> with one I bought recently. Is there anything special I should be >> setting or should it "just work"? >> >> I'm finding when I attempt to burn (I've tried a bunch of programs under >> ubuntu 8.10 which all seem to use wodim as their backend for burning) >> and also Nero all to no avail. The program will start attempting to burn >> to the burner and then it will just eventually timeout. I then get an >> error back saying that the burner is too slow and that the session has >> failed. After that the burner usually doesn't respond at all (even >> physically pressing the eject button does nothing) and it's pretty much >> dead until I cold boot the system. >> >> If I just use the burner as a cd/dvd reader it seems ok though. >> >> -- >> dave. >> -- > > I'm likewise having trouble with the Plextor PX760-SA in my workstation at > home. I had assumed the problems derived from the Plextor (I believe a > lot of its issues can be resolved by upgrading the firmware, especially > burning to DVD+RW) but it would be interesting to hear others' > experiences. > > David > > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this document > > NOTICE > This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and > may be confidential. They may contain legally privileged or copyright > material. You should not read, copy, use or disclose them without > authorisation. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the > sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then please delete both > messages. This notice should not be removed. > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] suspicious headers?
why are my emails tagged with: Your mail to 'slug' with the subject Re: [SLUG] opening com port in terminal Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message has a suspicious header -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird addon?
Nigel Allen wrote: > A customer has a requirement for outgoing emails to be "auto-filed" as > they are sent. > > The idea is that when the send presses "send", a dialog box pops up and > asks them for a customer number. > > The customer number will be embedded in a new header which will then be > used to file a copy of the email - not sure how yet - maybe procmail? This sounds a lot like your customer wants a document management system to me. I've never used any open source document management systems, but Alfresco (http://www.alfresco.com/) have been around for a while and might do what you want. The problem with document management systems is of course that they would require your customer to take on a whole management methodology, which might be more effort than they want... Mikal -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions
Hi I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the case). I have been looking at fuildtek (http://fluidtek.com.au/) they have thermaltake rs wing case's, thinking of a cheap E2180 (down the page a bit), I don't need much grunt, all it will be doing it running nfs any thoughts ? Alex its sort of OT, but I am guessing most people on the list have gone / are going through this -- "There's been a act of war declared upon America by terrorists, and we will respond accordingly." - George W. Bush 09/15/2001 Camp David signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Partitions
Thanks Sonia & Mary Yes I am an ex Windows user still struggling with the differences. Here is the output of the commands: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /boot abi-2.6.24-16-generic initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic.bak abi-2.6.24-17-generic lost+found config-2.6.24-16-generic memtest86+.bin config-2.6.24-17-generic System.map-2.6.24-16-generic grub System.map-2.6.24-17-generic initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic.bak vmlinuz-2.6.24-17-generic initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /home/boot abi-2.6.20-15-generic initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic abi-2.6.20-16-generic initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic.bak config-2.6.20-15-generic memtest86+.bin config-2.6.20-16-generic System.map-2.6.20-15-generic grub System.map-2.6.20-16-generic initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic.bak vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=hardy DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.04" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /home/etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=feisty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 7.04" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Two other questions: 1. How do I direct my console output to the Clipboard so that I can forward it? Currently I do a cut & paste. 2. How do I print documentation like "Intro to Linux" which is in HTML format? At present using Firefox I only get a small part of a page printed in the middle. I would really like to read some of this excellent documentation. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] opening com port in terminal
On Wed, May 28, 2008 1:27 pm, Mick Pollard wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:29:55 +1000 (EST) > "Voytek Eymont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the single physical comm port, on the mainboard, com1 how do I get rid of >> xen, (and, what it is?) > Xen is server virtualisation software. > If you don't know what it is then fair chance is you aren't using it. > During CentOS bootup grub should give you a choice of a xen kernel and a > non xen kernel. If not you will need to install the non xen kernel. ( yum > will help you here ) Mick, I've already optioned it off in /etc/grub.conf, which seemed to work; I'll have a look at grub boot choice (so hopefully I'll know next time) thanks again, -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] opening com port in terminal
On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:29:55 +1000 (EST) "Voytek Eymont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Xen virtual console successfully installed as ttyS0 > >> > > This here is what might be a problem. > > This says xen has taken over /dev/ttyS0 ( com1) > > What external com port are you trying to use ? > > Is it an actual serial port or a USB2serial ? > > I had some trouble with some weather gear using a USB2serial. > > Mick, > the single physical comm port, on the mainboard, com1 > how do I get rid of xen, (and, what it is?) Xen is server virtualisation software. If you don't know what it is then fair chance is you aren't using it. During CentOS bootup grub should give you a choice of a xen kernel and a non xen kernel. If not you will need to install the non xen kernel. ( yum will help you here ) > -- > Voytek > -- Regards Mick Pollard ( lunix ) BOFH Excuse of the day: Invalid Retrieval Failure Signal pgp7hX9VrKd6n.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] opening com port in terminal
On Wed, May 28, 2008 11:03 am, Mick Pollard wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 2008 19:28:59 +1000 (EST) > "Voytek Eymont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> # dmesg | grep tty >> Xen virtual console successfully installed as ttyS0 >> > This here is what might be a problem. Mick, thanks, yes I've disbaled 'Xen' whoever he is, and, it's working now not sure if I'll need it, but Xen again... -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] opening com port in terminal
On Wed, May 28, 2008 11:03 am, Mick Pollard wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 2008 19:28:59 +1000 (EST) > "Voytek Eymont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> # dmesg | grep tty >> Xen virtual console successfully installed as ttyS0 >> > This here is what might be a problem. > This says xen has taken over /dev/ttyS0 ( com1) > What external com port are you trying to use ? > Is it an actual serial port or a USB2serial ? > I had some trouble with some weather gear using a USB2serial. the single physical comm port, on the mainboard, com1 how do I get rid of xen, (and, what it is?) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] opening com port in terminal
On Mon, 26 May 2008 19:28:59 +1000 (EST) "Voytek Eymont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Kevin, thanks > > that was the 1st thing I've done, set it to 2400 8N1 > after that, I've set h/w hs to 'off' [was 'on'] > > # dmesg | grep tty > Xen virtual console successfully installed as ttyS0 This here is what might be a problem. This says xen has taken over /dev/ttyS0 ( com1) What external com port are you trying to use ? Is it an actual serial port or a USB2serial ? I had some trouble with some weather gear using a USB2serial. > -- > Voytek > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Regards Mick Pollard ( lunix ) BOFH Excuse of the day: Redundant Backplane NMI Error pgpWqAOobwYM4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] opening com port in terminal
On Wed, May 28, 2008 9:07 am, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2008, Voytek Eymont wrote: >> as far as I can see, both centos' and knoppix's minicom are set same > > .. and you've compared dmesg's and such to see if the serial ports are > being identically detected and registered? Adrian, what to look for in dmesg ? (centos) # dmesg | grep 825 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled 8250_pnp: Unknown symbol serial8250_unregister_port 8250_pnp: Unknown symbol serial8250_register_port # dmesg | grep tty Xen virtual console successfully installed as ttyS0 -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
