[SLUG] datalogger project or similar?

2006-03-28 Thread amanda wynne
I'm looking for a starting point for a project. Basically a datalogger, usb i/o,
x interface. Only thing I found on sourceforge was jaws.

Project entails a micro-controller, probably an avr, with numerous adc, dac,
digital i/o, transferring raw data over serial usb, to a host (industrial sbc)
running real-time linux, which will do the mathematical processing, hmi,
ethernet interface, and other high-level functions.

Basically, I hate starting from a blank sheet of paper, almost as much as I hate
re-inventing the wheel.

Any pointers, even search terms to throw at google, would be appreciated.

Amanda


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Re: [SLUG] gunzip 1.3G file over ssh - crawling

2006-02-24 Thread amanda wynne

Quoting Simon Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi guys!
> 
> I'm pulling a compressed (gzip -9) disk image over the LAN and
> decompressing prior to writing to disk with dd.
> 
> The command I am using is
> 
> ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "cat client.img.gz" | gunzip | dd
> of=/dev/hda1
> 
> This seems to work reasonably well until it gets somewhere around the 1G
> mark at which point everything seems to have slowed down to a crawl.
> 
> The result is that it takes nearly as long as when I don't compress it
> and just pull the whole 8G partition through ssh.
> 
> I'm guessing it's something to do with buffering of the data in gunzip
> prior to it getting to dd that's blowing things up.
> 
> Anyone got any clues on how to do this more on the fly so all data is
> passed through without any buffering?
> 
> Why is this sort of question always late on a Friday?
> 
> Oh well, have a good weekend!
> 
> -- 
> Simon Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

What if you use scp to get the compressed file to your end first.

I presume this is a regular backup. How much of that 8GB actually changes
between backups? We have mirrored servers scattered around the country, and use
rsync daily to keep things synchronised.

The "L" in Lan is for local. Can't you access the partition directly with nfs or
smbclient; or is this a remote Lan on the end of a vpn tunnel half a world away?

Amanda

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Re: [SLUG] Rsync & Long Ping Times

2006-02-19 Thread amanda wynne
I've got SME servers in Perth & Mackay rsync'ing with a server in Sydney. After
setting --timeout=300 most of my similar problems like yours went away.

Amanda


Quoting Kevin Fitzgerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi All
> 
> I use rsync to back up data between servers for one of my clients. I have
> just installed a new site for themIn Leeville which is in country NSW. The
> site is on a 2 way sat link and as such gets ping times of 1200ms
> regularly.
> When I try and run the Rsync script I get as far as receiving the file list
> and then get the following:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ./hinterland.sh
> receiving file list ... done
> Read from remote host nrt-server.hinterland.dyndns.org: Connection reset by
> peer
> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (33116 bytes received so far)
> [receiver]
> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(420)
> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (33116 bytes received so far)
> [generator]
> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(420)
> 
> I am hazarding a guess that this is to do with the long Ping times. Can
> anyone out there suggest a way to make the RSYNC more tolerant of the long
> ping time? Or can you suggest another possible reason for the above errors?
> I know the script is correct as I used it in house with my laptop to get an
> initial copy of the data to bring back to the backup server. 
> 
> Many Thanks
> 
> Kev
> 
> -
> Kevin Fitzgerald
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[SLUG] pptp, remote shares, lockup

2006-02-16 Thread amanda wynne
Hello all,

Haven't been here for ages. I previously suspended my account because the
traffic was just too great, but since the recent downtime of the slug servers,
my account has been re-activated, so I have a question maybe someone can help me
with.

My machine at home runs Ubuntu 5.04. I use pptp-client to establish a vpn into
my employers network. The receiving machine is possibly a Win2K server.

I launch this from a script, like so;

sudo umount /mnt/control.jobs
sudo umount /mnt/control.prop
sudo umount /mnt/control.jungle
sudo umount /mnt/control.kzjungle

sudo pon control updetach && sudo route add -net 10.0.0.0/24 ppp0

sudo mount /mnt/control.jobs
sudo mount /mnt/control.prop
sudo mount /mnt/control.jungle
sudo mount /mnt/control.kzjungle

There is a similar inverse script to umount the shares & bring down the tunnel.

The remote shares are all listed in fstab, like so;
//10.0.0.2/jobs /mnt/control.jobs smbfs rw, user, noauto,
credentials=/etc/samba/user.cst, dmask=777, fmask=777  0  0

My file manager of choice is Krusader 1.51, which I launch with gksudo krusader.

My problem is I often get one remote share randomly locking up.
I often get error messages of;
umount: /mnt/control.prop: device is busy

which no amount of umount'ing will get rid of.
Killing Krusadser is also no help. This is despite the fact that I haven't even
attempted to use the offending share in any way. It also seems to pick shares at
random. It's never the same one twice in a row.

If I try & bring the tunnel back up, I get a message of;
Could not resolve mount point /mnt/control.prop

The only way I have thus far found to clear this situation is a re-boot.

Any suggestions for a cure or a work-around are most welcome.

Amanda

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Re: [SLUG] php mkdir on remote filesystem

2003-08-26 Thread Amanda Wynne

- Original Message -
From: "Brendan Dacre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] php mkdir on remote filesystem


> On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 13:36, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> > I have an SME server with an ibay with lots of php.
> > Under /files in this ibay I have mounted a drive on a Windows 2000
server.
> > Php can read files off this remote drive, but I can't mkdir or write to
it.
> > My mount command, (which I run from a script), as options, gives a valid
username & password on the remote system.
> > I did a chown to the mount point /files/jobs, to that valid user name,
which is also a valid username on the SME server. But after mounting the
remote filesystem, the owner & group reverts to root.
> >
> > Any help greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Amanda
> > 
> >
>
> Amanda,
>
> I am assuming you are using "mount -t smbfs"/smbmount.
>
> Other options I specify are uid=,
> gid=,rw (rw=read/write, default is ro=read
> only).
>
> In my case I use:
>
> mount -t smbfs -o credentials=,uid= name>,gid=,rw /// / point>
>
> Brendan
>

Thanks Brendan, got it working now.
setting uid=  & gid= did the trick.
Also realised I hadn't restarted httpd properly after changing httpd.conf.

Amanda

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[SLUG] php mkdir on remote filesystem

2003-08-26 Thread Amanda Wynne



I have an SME 
server with an ibay with lots of php.Under /files in this ibay I have 
mounted a drive on a Windows 2000 server.Php can read files off this remote 
drive, but I can't mkdir or write to it.My mount command, (which I run from 
a script), as options, gives a valid username & password on the remote 
system.I did a chown to the mount point /files/jobs, to that valid user 
name, which is also a valid username on the SME server. But after mounting the 
remote filesystem, the owner & group reverts to 
root.
 
Any help greatly appreciated.
 
Amanda
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[SLUG] streaming video web server

2003-07-02 Thread Amanda Wynne

My ADSL connection is about to be activated. Got the
modem/firewall/dmz/web_server/virtual_hosts sorted(in my head at least).
My flatmate has got a security camera. Wants to plug the camera into the
computer, and have it accessible from the web; check up on what the ferrets
(don't ask) are up to. Like what the child care centres are doing so the parents
at work can see the kids. Has anybody seen a how-to, or can point me in the
right direction? BTW, the server runs SME (e-smith).

Amanda

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RE: [SLUG] Granville TAFE Linux courses

2003-07-02 Thread Amanda Wynne
Hm
Great archive...
One message.
I'm sure I could write a great monologue (or was diatribe?) about an archive
with zero messages. but I won't.

Actually I went along to Granville yesterday & wormed my way into the LPI
course. Unfortunately, although enrolments went to six o'clock, the cashiers
office closed at five. And of course I got there at five past five. So now I'll
have to go back later to pay the fees. Such is life.

Amanda



Quoting Luke King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> hello Amanda,
> 
> http://grok.org.au/mailman/listinfo/enrol_grok.org.au 
> 
> may help you.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Lucas
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Amanda Wynne
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28/06/03 19:32
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Granville TAFE Linux courses
> 
> Has anybody had a response from Geoffrey about these courses. I'm trying
> to find
> out what time(s) and where on the campus enrolments are. Does anybody
> know?
> 
> Amanda
> 
> 
> Quoting Geoffrey Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Details of next Linux courses for next semester are at
> > http://slug.org.au/training.html
> > 
> > I'm taking enquiries by email now.  Plenty of space in the
> > introductory courses.  LPI Certification pretty much full
> > unless I open a new class.
> > 
> > Enrolments are 1st, 2nd and 3rd July.  Classes start 2 weeks later.
> > 
> > Those interested should email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Don't ask TAFE.  These courses are invisible.  Slug members 
> > generally find that they get in.
> > 
> > Geoffrey
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Re: [SLUG] Granville TAFE Linux courses

2003-06-28 Thread Amanda Wynne
Has anybody had a response from Geoffrey about these courses. I'm trying to find
out what time(s) and where on the campus enrolments are. Does anybody know?

Amanda


Quoting Geoffrey Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Details of next Linux courses for next semester are at
> http://slug.org.au/training.html
> 
> I'm taking enquiries by email now.  Plenty of space in the
> introductory courses.  LPI Certification pretty much full
> unless I open a new class.
> 
> Enrolments are 1st, 2nd and 3rd July.  Classes start 2 weeks later.
> 
> Those interested should email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Don't ask TAFE.  These courses are invisible.  Slug members 
> generally find that they get in.
> 
> Geoffrey
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[SLUG] SME-server and mail

2003-06-09 Thread Amanda Wynne
Hi,
The latest Linux Format has SME-server 5.6 (formerly e-smith) on the cover 
CD's, so I ditched Mandrake 9.0 off my local file server and installed. Must 
say I'm very impressed.

I'm setting up Webmail, and basically got it working.
First problem is I can't see where the actual maildir is. I've poked around 
for ages with cd & ls to no avail. What I want to do is import all my saved 
old mail from Eudora & Pegasus.

My second problem is this; the server is http://server3.home (on my Lan), and 
I log into it as amanda, so my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I send an email, this is the default senders address, and of course my 
ISP (primus) rejects it. If I put my real email address 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in the OR field on the message compose form, 
it's fine. But how can I automate this?

Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.
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Re: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-02 Thread Amanda Wynne
I think this is a closer stick drawing


__

|   ADSL Router  |

--
  |
  | -
  |   
  |---  | WebServer Box |
  | 
  | -
  |
  |

| FreeSCO Firewall |

|  _
|
---| Rest of lan   |
   -

> In which case, the comment still stands but for Alcatel Pro.
>
> Fil

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Re: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-02 Thread Amanda Wynne
Yes !

I did some more searching on the web today, and figured that's pretty well 
what DMZ means.

Now, I should be able to set up Apache on a machine in the DMZ, serving up web 
pages to the Internet. And an FTP server on this same machine accessible only 
from the internal Lan to update those pages. Yes? 
With only one network card?

So, it looks kinda like this.

Lan 192.168.0.x (2 workstations, file server, laptop, laser printer)

Freesco bridge eth0 192.168.0.1  
  eth1 192.168.1.3

DMZ with Alcatel pro at 192.168.1.1 to TPG static IP ADSL
   Apache web server at 192.168.1.2
   FTP server at 192.168.1.2

Sorry if I'm boring people with this, I'm just trying to get it straight in my 
own head where I'm  going with this.

Amanda


On Monday 02 Jun 2003 10:30 am, Phil Scarratt wrote:
> It's effectively - in security speak - a DMZ (demilitarized zone) no?
>
> Fil
>
> Minh Van Le wrote:
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but having two firewalls is better than one.
> >
> > One for the DSL modem that is exposed to the internet, and then a
> > separate firewall for the internal lan that is only exposed to the DSL
> > firewall is better than firewalling everything from 1 box. It may delay a
> > compromise and make tracking logs easier.
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Behalf Of Chris D.
> >>Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2003 19:10
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice
> >>
> >>This one time, at band camp, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> >>>I'm looking at getting an Alcatel Pro. Currently running a P120
> >>
> >>with Freesco
> >>
> >>>via dialup.
> >>
> >>I'd recomend the DSL-300 from D-Link. There it maintains the
> >>authentication and you just plugin a cat5 crossover to your system.
> >>On the system it's connected to, you just use dhcp to configure the IP
> >>address on it.
> >>
> >>>What I'm thinking of doing, if it's possible (this was going to
> >>
> >>be my next
> >>
> >>>question) is change the Freesco box to bridge mode, feeding the
> >>
> >>alcatel, with
> >>
> >>>my web server (yet another box) hanging off the alcatel. That
> >>
> >>way my Lan is
> >>
> >>>effectively double-firewalled.
> >>
> >>'double-firewalled' is really not going to mean much.
> >>
> >>I refuse to say free-->SCO<-- is a good idea.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-01 Thread Amanda Wynne
I'm looking at getting an Alcatel Pro. Currently running a P120 with Freesco 
via dialup.

What I'm thinking of doing, if it's possible (this was going to be my next 
question) is change the Freesco box to bridge mode, feeding the alcatel, with 
my web server (yet another box) hanging off the alcatel. That way my Lan is 
effectively double-firewalled.

Is this a good idea?

Amanda




On Sunday 01 Jun 2003 6:34 pm, David Kempe wrote:
> Hi amanda,
> I just finished setting up mail hosting on TPG's 256k service.
> I even got their 'free' USB DSL-200 adsl modem to work with debian etc.
> Not too hard really, but I warn you that the firmware/usb/driver combo is
> bit unstable.
>
> I set it up for mail hosting - 64k outbound easily gets choked - even with
> wondershaper which would be mandatory. I wouldn't really recommend
> webserving off the 256/64k plan but I spose that depends on how much
> you download :)
>
> dave
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Amanda Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I'll probably think of lots of other questions, but this will do for a
> start.

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Re: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-01 Thread Amanda Wynne
Chris,

All files except one (mod_l33t-1.0.zip) are empty archives. Probably not 
important, but thought maybe you should know.

Amanda

On Sunday 01 Jun 2003 4:17 pm, Chris D. wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Mary wrote:
> >The term you are looking for is "virtual hosts".
> >
> >It is handled separately by each utility - mail transport agents,
> >webservers etc each handle this in their own way.
> >
> >It sounds like you're talking about webserving -- you want to use
> >Apache's name based virtual hosting for this:
> >
> >http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/name-based.html
>
> If you intend on doing virtual hosts -- there is a nice virtual hosting
> module for apache called mod_l33t.
>
> It powered a hosting company in canada, which has now closed off due to
> DoS attacks and a shortage on money.
>
> It reduces the size of each apache thread, and the RAM footprint.
> (According to description)
>
> You can get it at http://wazza.host.sk/l33t/ where I have archives of
> the files used that they released under the GPL.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris

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Re: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-01 Thread Amanda Wynne
Thank you, thats it.

Amanda

I'll ask dumb questions about routing & firewalling later..

> It sounds like you're talking about webserving -- you want to use
> Apache's name based virtual hosting for this:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/name-based.html
>

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[SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-01 Thread Amanda Wynne
I'm about to go to adsl for my home. Going with tpg, for the static IP number 
& unlimited downloads. I have several domains, which are currently hosted 
elsewhere.
The question in a nutshell is this;
Can I host 2 (or more) domains on one static IP address?
And if so, can someone point me in the right direction as how to go about 
this.

I had a quick look at the virtual services howto, but this appears to be for 
when you have seperate IP numbers for each domain.

I'll probably think of lots of other questions, but this will do for a start.

TIA

Amanda
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[SLUG] Mobile phone usb connectivity

2003-03-27 Thread Amanda Wynne
I'm thinking of updating my mobile phone, and am looking at a Nokia 5510. It 
has a built-in MP3 player, with usb connectivity.

Does anyone know if this is a problem to connect to. I'm using Mandrake 9, but 
have never played with anything usb.

Any advice welcome.
Amanda
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Re: [SLUG] binary-sorry

2003-03-27 Thread Amanda Wynne
Sorry,
didn't mean to do that.

On Thursday 27 Mar 2003 8:31 pm, Gonzalo Servat wrote:
> On 27/03/2003 8:13 PM +1100 Amanda Wynne wrote:
> > There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary,
> > and those who don't.
>
> There are 2 types of jokes in the world, those that are really old, and
> those that aren't.
>
> :)
>
> Gonz.

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[SLUG] binary

2003-03-27 Thread Amanda Wynne
There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, 
and those who don't.

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Re: [SLUG] printf control code question

2003-03-23 Thread Amanda Wynne
I mean I only get output to the screen about every 20th call to printf.


On Monday 24 Mar 2003 5:00 pm, Ian Su wrote:
> \r just moves the cursor, it won't "update the line". Whatever you mean by
> that.
>
>   printf("hello world\rfoo bar\n");
>
> would print
>
>   foo barorld
>
> so it could be a matter of inserting spaces after your string?
>

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Re: [SLUG] printf control code question

2003-03-23 Thread Amanda Wynne
\r sort of works. Only it only updates the line about every 20th pass through 
the loop. Oh well.

On Monday 24 Mar 2003 3:22 pm, Shane MacPhillamy wrote:
> I think you are looking for \r - carriage return.
>
> Cheers
> Shane
>
> On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 02:35  PM, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> > if \n is newline, and \t is horizontal tab what's "home"; as in put
> > the cursor
> > back to the start of the current line? I've searched high & low, but
> > can't
> > seem to find any info anywhere.
> >
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Re: [SLUG] printf control code question

2003-03-23 Thread Amanda Wynne
I know absolutely nothing about ncurses. I'm eventually going to migrate this 
program to gtk+. At least I have several books on the subject which I browsed 
through about a year ago.

Amanda

On Monday 24 Mar 2003 2:41 pm, James Gregory wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 14:35, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> > if \n is newline, and \t is horizontal tab what's "home"; as in put the
> > cursor back to the start of the current line? I've searched high & low,
> > but can't seem to find any info anywhere.
>
> I don't know the answer but it sounds like you're laying stuff out on
> the screen - in that case, I suggest you look into using ncurses to do
> the work for you (and which I know very little about)
>
> good luck,
>
> James.

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[SLUG] printf control code question

2003-03-23 Thread Amanda Wynne
if \n is newline, and \t is horizontal tab what's "home"; as in put the cursor 
back to the start of the current line? I've searched high & low, but can't 
seem to find any info anywhere.

Amanda
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[SLUG] pid timeout

2003-03-23 Thread Amanda Wynne
Thanks to David & Carl, I've done a heap of reading on threads. Now decided I 
don't actually need to use threads for my application. So I've modified this 
library to make it threadless. Now works a treat.
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[SLUG] pid timeout

2003-03-21 Thread Amanda Wynne
I'm writing a little program to exercise the modbus interface on our embedded 
system (modbus is a serial protocol).
I have an infinite loop, which sends a request from the PC to the embedded 
device, and then receives a response. So far so good.
But, it will only do it 127 times.

The library I'm using (libmodbus) has a verbose mode, where it will print out 
all the information coming & going, as well as the pid's . Each write & read 
of data generates a new pid.

While it's working, it looks like this:
pid reading 25443 return -1
pid timeout 25442 return 0

When it stops, it looks like this:
pid reading 0 return 0
pid timeout 25444 return -1


The code from the library looks like this:

int Mbm_send_and_get_result(byte trame[], int timeout, int long_emit, int 
longueur)
{
   int i,stat1=-1,stat2=-1;

pthread_t thread1,thread2;
   Mbm_result = (unsigned char *) malloc(longueur*sizeof(unsigned char));

   /* clean port */
   tcflush(Mb_device, TCIFLUSH);

   /* create 2 threads for read data and to wait end of timeout*/
   pthread_create(&thread2, NULL,(void*)&Mbm_sleep,&timeout);
   pthread_create(&thread1, NULL,(void*)&Mbm_get_data,&longueur);

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Re: [SLUG] 4 hour Internet lines?

2002-11-11 Thread Amanda Wynne
I'm actually with iPrimus, but imagine they operate the same.
Depends on how busy they are. The fine print on my contract actually spells
this out.

Amanda



- Original Message -
From: "Doug Foskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "SLUG List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:33 AM
Subject: [SLUG] 4 hour Internet lines?


I use the Telstra 4 hour access line to access my ISP. (this is one of the
weird no's they ask U to use)
I have been finding that occasionally the lines stay up. I was wondering if
this was a freak of nature, or is there a virus or something that holds the
line up, as I thought the disconnect was instigated by Telstra.
Anyone got any ideas?
Doug



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Re: [SLUG] Mozilla font size?

2002-11-07 Thread Amanda Wynne
Quote from userChrome-example.css

/*
 * Edit this file and copy it as userChrome.css into your
 * profile-directory/chrome/
 */

Amanda

- Original Message - 
From: "James Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "andrew fries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Mozilla font size?


> On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 11:19:42AM +1100, andrew fries wrote:
> > Is it possible to increase the size of fonts used by Mozilla - I don't
> > mean for rendering web pages, but the ones used for its menus, status
> > bar and the URL widget?
> 
> ummm. the short answer is yes. :)
> 
> I think the way I did it last time was to change my gtk1 default font
> with the theme selecting trinket - "switch". There is also a CSS file in
> the chrome directory for the user which lets you set this stuff I think.
> userChrome.css or something? search google for it, you should be able to
> fix it as easily as editing a web page :)
> 
> James.
> 
> 

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Re: [SLUG] Apache, php, mysql configuration problems

2002-11-03 Thread Amanda Wynne
Thanks. Got it going. Found php-mysql on my cd's & installed it, with some 
difficulty. Since upgrading from MDK 8.2 to 9.0, my Krusader right click menu 
to rpminst won't work anymore.

Amanda


On Sunday 03 Nov 2002 7:11 pm, James Gregory wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 03:20:21PM +1100, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> > Is there some other rpm I need to install.
>
> yep. php-mysql. It's part of the standard distro so urpmi can grab it
> and set it up for you.
>
> incidently, urpmq php- will list all the various extensions you can get
> for php.
>
> HTH
>
> James.

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[SLUG] Apache, php, mysql configuration problems

2002-11-02 Thread Amanda Wynne
I have a problem getting these 3 to play together on my MDK 9.0.

When I run phpBB2 install.php I get the following error message.

"The php configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that 
you choose"

in etc/php.ini I have the following lines:

extension_dir = /usr/lib/php/extensions ; directory in which the loadable  
 
extensions (modules) reside

extension=mysql.so

but neither "/usr/lib/php/extensions" nor "mysql.so" actually exist anywhere.

So, should I be uninstalling the Apache server, and re-installing from rpm.
Download the apache source & install from that.
Is there some other rpm I need to install.
Can I fix the configuration manually?

Apache itself works. PHP itself works. Mysql itself works (from the command 
line).

Amanda
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Re: [SLUG] mime type, enable .dwg in Apache

2002-10-31 Thread Amanda Wynne
Just a quick followup.
I got it sussed.
"image/vnd.dwg"doesnt work.
"image/vnd.dwg dwg"does work.

similarly for amipro *.sam documents.
"application/vnd.lotus-amipro sam"

Amanda


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Re: [SLUG] mime type, enable .dwg in Apache

2002-10-31 Thread Amanda Wynne
I've got, in my mime.type file, the entry "image/vnd.dwg .dwg".
When I access the page with IE, the link works correctly, with the option to
either save the file to disk or open it with Autocad. Which works fine.

With Netscape or Mozilla, it just treats it like a text file.

I also just found the following information from
http://www.dot.co.pima.az.us/gis/webdev/dwg.htm

* If you have AutoCAD itself installed, then you can use AutoCAD as an
application external to your web browser to open and view the DWG file.
 When you click on a .DWG with Internet Explorer, it should give you the
option of saving the file to disk, or opening it. Assuming you have AutoCAD
installed, choose "Open", unless you have a need to save the DWG file to
your disk. Choosing "Open" should start AutoCAD and display the map.
 When you click on a .DWG with Netscape, you may only have the option to
save it to disk. Also, if the filename extension of the file to save is not
listed
as DWG, then change it to DWG. Once saved to disk with the DWG extension,
you can start AutoCAD and open it from your hard disk like any other
AutoCAD drawing. We're trying to learn how to configure Netscape to open DWG
files directly. If you know how, contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So it seems my problem is actually browser based, rather than server based.

I've tried adding an entry in Mozilla, under "helper applications" to get it
to associate dwg files with Autocad, with no success yet.
Also, the filetype .sam, which is an AmiPro document, will open in IE &
Mozilla, but not Netscape.

Amanda

- Original Message -
From: "Glen Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Amanda Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] mime type, enable .dwg in Apache


> Amanda Wynne wrote:
>
> > I suspect I need to add an entry into httpd.conf about
> >
> > AddEncoding vnd.dwg dwg
>
> Hi Amanda,
>
> Almost right.  When you send a page using HTTP as the
> transfer protocol that page will have a HTTP header
> containing the Content-Type and an optional HTTP
> header describing the Encoding.
>
> The Content-Type is what you want to alter so that clients
> can be told that the downloaded content is a AutoCAD file.
>
> The Encoding is how the content appears on the wire.  It
> usually appears on the wire as it appeared in the file
> on your disk, but it could have optionally be compressed
> using gzip.
>
> To set the Content-Type on the Apache web server you can
> either modify /etc/mime.types or alter Apache's configuration.
> My experience is that altering the configuration is better.
>
> My experience is also that adding the new types to /etc/httpd/
> conf/httpd.conf leads to trouble during upgrades and adding
> a new configuration file is better.
>
> So create a file /etc/http/conf/type.conf.
>
> Add the lines
>
># Local mappings of file extensions to HTTP Content-Type
>
># AutoCAD
># Ref: http://support.autodesk.com/  knowlegde base ID TS65651
>AddType image/vnd.dxf .dxf
>AddDescription "AutoCAD" .dxf
>AddType image/vnd.dwg .dwg
>AddDescription "AutoCAD map" .dwg
>AddType drawing/x-dwf .dwf
>AddDescription "AutoCAD drawing web format" .dwf
>
> At the end of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf add
>
># Local content types
>Include conf/type.conf
>
> The AddDescription setting appears in directory listings.  It
> has no other effect.  You can also use AddIcon to add icons
> to directory listings, being a CAD person you've probably
> got the talent to come up with something suitable.
>
> Now restart Apache
>
>service httpd restart
>
> and check that there are no typing errors in the
> configuration file by looking for error messages:
>
>tail -100 /var/log/httpd/error_log
>


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[SLUG] mime type, enable .dwg in Apache

2002-10-30 Thread Amanda Wynne



I'm trying to make a hyperlink to an AutoCad .dwg 
file. A search on Google reveals the correct mime type to use is 
image/vnd.dwg
which is in my mime.types file for Apache.
In Mozilla I've added, under "helper applications", 
extension dwg, mime type image/vnd.dwg, handled 
by application C:\Program Files\AutoCAD LT 2000i\aclt.exe.
I suspect I need to add an entry into httpd.conf about 
AddEncoding vnd.dwg dwg
but I'm not sure about the syntax; or even if I'm on the 
right track here.
When I click on the hyperlink, I get a screen full of 
garbage text.
Can somebody point me in the right direction, or offer some 
hints?
Thanks.
Amanda
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [SLUG] KDE 3...problems

2002-10-26 Thread Amanda Wynne
I've almost fixed Krusader. Found this in the Faq on the krusader website.


> Some distributions put the 'krusaderui.rc' file in the wrong place. To solve 
>the problem, just copy the file (from the package or the installed path) to 
>either $KDEDIR/share/apps/krusader or ~/.kde/share/apps/krusader and re-run 
>the program.

However, I don't get the bit about "some distributions". I installed it from 
source after upgrading Mandrake. It was a real shock to find after upgrading 
from 8.2 to 9.0 that I no longer had Krusader.

All I have to do now is get the icons back on the toolbar. Most of them are 
missing.

Amanda



>
> I'm taking a stab in the dark here, because I know nothing about kde. is
> there a ~/.kde/share/config/krusader or krusaderrc file? what happens if
> you delete/rename it? Hopefully that will reset your config to the
> default one which (I assume) has a tool bar thing. I don't think that
> rebuilding krusader will fix things, unless you built it against old kde
> libs, in which case you should run configure before you do your rebuild.
>
> James.
>
> > Amanda
> >


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Re: [SLUG] KDE 3...problems

2002-10-25 Thread Amanda Wynne

Thanks for that.  The symlink has fixed kde. So simple when you know how.
Krusader still has no toolbar. And my rpmdrake doesn't look anything like you 
describe. There's nothing about "diffs".

I tried re-installing Krusader; make clean, make, make install.

Amanda

On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 1:15 pm, James Gregory wrote:
>
> Now, on to fixing the problem.
>
> there is a file - /etc/profile.d/10lang.sh, the /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
> is supposed to be a symlink to it. According to rpm the lang.sh file
> does not belong to a package (which is pretty unsurprising). I don't
> know exactly which script it is that is supposed to make this symlink,
> but making the symlink yourself will fix the problem. So
>
> su -
> cd /etc/profile.d
> rm -f lang.sh
> ln -s 10lang.sh lang.sh
>
> will fix your problem.
>
> I don't, however have any short answers as to why it didn't do it on its
> own. I would have thought that the postinstall for initscripts would
> have taken care of this. Anyway, I had the same problem ages ago when I
> upgraded to cooker from 8.2, which was how I knew the answer.
>
> I didn't have the same problem when I did a full upgrade on my other box
> - this might have been luck, because it had some odd stuff installed, or
> it might be a problem with the upgrade packages only thing.
>
> HTH,
>
> James.

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[SLUG] KDE 3...problems

2002-10-25 Thread Amanda Wynne
Hi,

I've upgraded my Mandrake system from 8.2 to 9.0, using the 3 CD set from 
Everything Linux. Took the upgrade packages only route.

The KDE desktop won't run. It quits with the error message saying that 
etc/profile.d/lang.sh  doesn't exist.

I normally use IceWM as my default desktop. KDE is my default desktop for user 
root. Since logging in as root and trying to startx, now my Krusader file 
manager has lost its toolbar icons. (It was working OK).

When I unsuccessfully tried to install KDE3 on MDK8.2, I used rpmdrake to 
uninstall kde3 and re-install kde2. But now rpmdrake has also lost all its 
options. Like choosing sources. Or uninstalling packages. It will do installs 
only.

Short of wiping it and putting 8.2 back on, any other help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Amanda
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[SLUG] php help passing variables

2002-10-22 Thread Amanda Wynne



(Linux relevance; This will all run on a Linux box, 
as soon as I can get some hardware.)
 
I can't seem to get php to pass variables from an 
input page to an output page.
 
---test-in.htm---

"test-out.php" 
method="get">(or "post", tried them 
both)
"text" name="name">
"submit">

 
---test-out.php---

echo ($name);
?>
comment. $name is destined for a MySQL select query. echo ($name) is just for 
testing.
output.php gets called with this URL (leading http://server...etc stripped for 
clarity)
test-out.php?name=test
the variable $name is empty.
php 4.2.2 running as part of FoxServ 3.0 on a Windows 
machine.
I'm sure it must be obvious, but I've spent 2 days on this 
with a number of tutorials & how-to's, and I really can't see why something 
that is so simple just won't work for me.
 
Amanda
 
 


Re: [SLUG] Re: St.George Browser Based Banking Feedback

2002-10-17 Thread Amanda Wynne
Suggestion. Vote with your feet.

I use Westpac. Their internet banking page "just works".
I've used, on Windoze, both Netscape & Mozilla.
On Linux, Mozilla.

Amanda.

Standard Disclaimer. I am in no way endorsing Westpac, other than to say
I've had no problems with the web interface to internet banking.

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[SLUG] Paradox to MySQL en masse

2002-10-15 Thread Amanda Wynne



I'm looking at moving a custom Paradox solution 
(written in Delphi and running on Windoze) over to an Apache/PHP/MySQL web 
solution. The original application uses distributed Paradox tables (one in every 
directory, must be thousands of them). Can anyone point me in the direction of a 
script to mass-convert them. Doing them one by one, open Paradox, export as flat 
file, import into mysql, apart from taking a month of Sundays, doesn't sound 
very thrilling.
 
Thanks.
 
Amanda


Re: [SLUG] Repair shop?

2002-10-15 Thread Amanda Wynne

Why not set all four to "Auto"?

Amanda

> Hardware tips for newbies.
> 
> Go into the bios setup and detect the hard drives again.  
> Hope this helps,
> KenF
> 
> 

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[SLUG] backup script, WinME, networked, HELP

2002-10-10 Thread Amanda Wynne



Hi all,
 
I have a bash script which I run nightly(via cron) 
on my MDK machine. It backs up itself, the Windows partitions on the same 
machine, and another Windows machine on the network. The backups are written (as 
tgz) to a third machine, also running MDK. It does weekly a full backup, 
and daily a diff backup.
 
It all works fine, except for the weekly full 
backup of the other Windows(ME) machine. It runs for about 10 minutes, then 
appears to die. The .tgz file is incomplete. When I go to shut down the windows 
machine, it warns that my MDK machine is still connected.
The last line of the script is to unmount this 
machine, so it's obviously never getting there.
 
Is this a network time-out problem? If so, any 
suggestions on how to get around it?
 
 
 
This is an excerpt of the relevant bits of the 
script.
 
#!/bin/bash## creates backups of essential 
files# backups the Windows partitions on Amanda & Rikki
 
RIKKI_C="/mnt/rikki_c"RIKKI_D="/mnt/rikki_d"RIKKI_E="/mnt/rikki_e"RIKKI_F="/mnt/rikki_f"RIKKI_G="/mnt/rikki_g"
 
LIST="/tmp/backlist_$$.txt"
smbmount "Server2\\public1" /mnt/public1 -o 
username=amanda,password=*** 
smbmount "Rikki\\rikki-c" /mnt/rikki_c -o password=***
smbmount "Rikki\\rikki-d" /mnt/rikki_d -o 
password=***smbmount "Rikki\\rikki-e" /mnt/rikki_e -o 
password=***smbmount "Rikki\\rikki-f" /mnt/rikki_f -o 
password=***smbmount "Rikki\\rikki-g" /mnt/rikki_g -o 
password=***
 
 
 
 
 
# third, backup Rikkiset $(date)#if test "$1" = "Thu" ; 
then tar cfz 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_c_full_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
$RIKKI_C    rm -f 
/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_c_diff* tar cfz 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_d_full_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
$RIKKI_D    rm -f 
/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_d_diff* tar cfz 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_e_full_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
$RIKKI_E    rm -f 
/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_e_diff* tar cfz 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_f_full_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
$RIKKI_F    rm -f 
/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_f_diff* tar cfz 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_g_full_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
$RIKKI_G    rm -f 
/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_g_diff*else find $RIKKI_C 
-depth -type f  \( -ctime -1 -o -mtime -1 \) -print > 
$LIST    tar cfzT 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_c_diff_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
"$LIST"    rm -f 
"$LIST" find $RIKKI_D -depth -type f  \( -ctime -1 -o -mtime -1 \) 
-print > $LIST    tar cfzT 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_d_diff_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
"$LIST"    rm -f 
"$LIST" find $RIKKI_E -depth -type f  \( -ctime -1 -o -mtime -1 \) 
-print > $LIST    tar cfzT 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_e_diff_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
"$LIST"    rm -f 
"$LIST" find $RIKKI_F -depth -type f  \( -ctime -1 -o -mtime -1 \) 
-print > $LIST    tar cfzT 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_f_diff_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
"$LIST"    rm -f 
"$LIST" find $RIKKI_G -depth -type f  \( -ctime -1 -o -mtime -1 \) 
-print > $LIST    tar cfzT 
"/mnt/public1/Backups/Rikki/backup_rikki_g_diff_$6-$2-$3.tgz" 
"$LIST"    rm -f "$LIST"fi
 
smbumount /mnt/rikki_csmbumount /mnt/rikki_dsmbumount 
/mnt/rikki_esmbumount /mnt/rikki_fsmbumount /mnt/rikki_g 



Re: [SLUG] Mail

2002-10-08 Thread Amanda Wynne


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Mail


>I don't know which one is closest to Eudora, but

That would be Kmail. I use both at home. 
At work I use Outlook Express, and I hate it.

My 2 cents worth.

Amanda

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Re: [SLUG] the internet fridge arrives - but does it run linux?

2002-10-02 Thread Amanda Wynne

If thats in US dollars, I'm in the wrong business. I can put together a very 
nice computer with flatscreen for about $1300, buy a fridge for another $1300,
stick the flat screen on the fridge door, the PC case next to the compressor 
underneath, duct cool air from inside the fridge to cool my now oveclocked 
CPU,

AND, put the balance of $13,400 in my pocket.

So who wants to go into business??


On Wednesday 02 October 2002 13:16, Graeme Robinson wrote:
> http://www.graenet.com/fridge.html
>
> -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting
> www.graenet.com - internet solutions
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-=
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Re: [SLUG] Next Handbook and faulty disk

2002-09-25 Thread Amanda Wynne



Yes I would agree.
But, getting all hot & bothered about it now 
isn't going to change the facts. It will take time to sort out, and then 
post out heaps of CD's. I'm not sticking up for them, it's a deplorable 
situation.
I'm just trying to be realistic about the 
solution.
 
Amanda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Chi Wai Tong 
  To: Amanda Wynne ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:05 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [SLUG] Next Handbook and 
  faulty disk
  
  But the point is, they should have at least took one set of CDs off the 
  production line and tested it BEFORE selling the product. Would you agree 
  with that? They really do have a serious quality management problem. 
   


Re: [SLUG] Next Handbook and faulty disk

2002-09-25 Thread Amanda Wynne



I once had a faulty CD on a magazine cover. Took 
over a month for a replacement to come. And that was a single customer. These 
people have thousands of CD's to ship. I wouldn't be getting upset after 10 
days.
 
Amanda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Chi Wai Tong 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:39 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [SLUG] Next Handbook and 
  faulty disk
  
  I had sent an email requesting a replacement CD last Monday (16/09) and its 
  26/09 today. I haven't got the CD yet; not even a reply from the company. I 
  would be more than happy to be a part of the collective approach to speed 
  things up a bit. I am sick and tired of their work practises. 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  HiHas 
anyone received a replacement disk yet for the faulty disk that was 
soldwith the Next Linux handbook? Has anyone even received a reply? If 
we don'thear anything soon, would anyone be interested in making a 
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Re: [SLUG] NOIE to host Linux hoedown

2002-09-25 Thread Amanda Wynne

Don't be silly. Why have anybody there who actually knows anything about it?
Amanda

- Original Message -
From: "craigw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:05 PM
Subject: [SLUG] NOIE to host Linux hoedown


> NOIE to host Linux hoedown
>
> http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=10869
>
> Computerbank NSW representatives (David, Craige and myself) several months
> ago had discussions over lunch with a representative of NOIE in Sydney. We
> gave her a copy of Redhat 7.2 to try as no one in NOIE knew any thing of
> Linux at that time.
>
> Could be interesting to see if SLUG or Computerbank NSW could get a look
in
> at this 'Hoedown' with NOIE!
>
> Craig
>
>
>

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[SLUG] Dosemu working mouse

2002-09-20 Thread Amanda Wynne

I've finally got a mouse working. It's not my funky 5 button optical 
scroll-wheel PS2 mouse, but at least it works.
The mouse is a 3 button Logitech MouseMan connected to com2.

This is the bit from dosemu.conf.

$_com1 = "/dev/ttyS0"   # e.g. "/dev/mouse" or "/dev/cua0" 
# (Note: cua0/1 doesn't appear to work) Amanda
$_com2 = "/dev/ttyS1"   # e.g. "/dev/modem" or "/dev/cua1"
$_com3 = "" # dito "/dev/cua2"
$_com4 = "" # dito "/dev/cua3"
$_ttylocks = "" # Lock directory (e.g. "/var/lock")
# default ("") is /usr/spool/uucp

$_mouse = "logitech"# one of: microsoft, mousesystems, logitech, mmseries
# mouseman, hitachi, busmouse, ps2
$_mouse_dev = "com2"# one of: com1, com2, com3, com4 or /dev/mouse
$_mouse_flags = ""  # list of none or one or more of:
# "emulate3buttons cleardtr"
$_mouse_baud = (0)  # baudrate, 0 == don't set


And this is the line in my Autoexec.bat which launches the mouse (the "/2" 
means com2)

MSCMOUSE /2 

You can find this mouse driver by googling "mscmouse.zip".

If I ever get the PS2 mouse going, I'll post a how-to here for posterity.

Amanda

PS: I'm using the Win95 floppy boot disk files.
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[SLUG] Mice questions

2002-09-19 Thread Amanda Wynne



1: Anybody know what baud rate PS2 mice run at? I 
seem to recall the old serial mice ran at 9600.
 
2: In X, how do I change the resolution of the 
mouse (not to be confused with acceleration). I've got a new mouse, but the 
cursor only moves about a quarter the distance of the old mouse for a given 
physical movement.
 
3: In Freedos, anybody know how to get it to not 
load its internal mouse driver. Putting a different mouse driver in the 
autoexec.bat, it won't load because there's a mouse driver already 
loaded.
 
 
Amanda


Re: Alternative to AutoTrax/Protel, was Re: [SLUG] dosemu; help needed

2002-09-18 Thread Amanda Wynne

Problem is I do use it commercially, so would have to pay. (Not a big
problem really).
Second problem, my machine at work is strictly windows, so whatever I use
has to be able to run on both platforms.
I've also, like you, checked out just about everything going. Dos Protel is
soo easy, a child could do it. And I think the time I would have to
spend learning a new package could be better spent elsewhere at the moment.

Also, both myself & my employer have lots of previous designs, which it is
not practical to just scrap & start again.

BTW, further to my posting here which you replied to, I've made several
other posts. I have got it working, except for the mouse. But I'm about to
clock off work & go home & get that fixed.

Amanda




- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Alternative to AutoTrax/Protel, was Re: [SLUG] dosemu; help needed


> Amanda Wynne wrote:
>   > I've got dosemu itself going. Exitemu works fine. I can dir, copy
>   > to/from floppy (painfully slowly).
>   > But I can't get anything worthwhile working. Protel Trax just goes
> into a black hole. Nothing.
> ..
>   > All help appreciated as I can't kill off
>   > windows till I get Protel going under dosemu. I need it for work.
>
> This is nothing to do with dosemu some suggestions if you are able to
> make the break from a Windows/DOS electronic CAD to a Linux one. I have
> just had to do a circuit board from schematic to autoroute and to gerber
> file format for a circuit board house to make the board and used
> CadSoft's EagleCAD. http://www.cadsoft.de I had DOS
> Protel at home (a legal cp) but I really felt I wanted to use Linux.
>
> They have a scematic capture, autorouter and layout package that is
> free, with some limitations, for
> personal use. It works superbly AND it comes with Libraries of
> components. I will be moving up to the $ version as I am using it for
> commercial stuff.
>
> I also tried Bartels AutoEngineer. http://www.bartels.de
> It comes as RPM's for Intel
> platforms. The trial/freeware version downloaded and it installed fine.
> That ran a bit slow and I liked the interface of EagleCAD better so
> I didnt use AutoEngineer but it looks like a complete package equivqlent
> to Protel.
>
> There other open source and free packages at sourceforge for doing
> circuits but comparison to Protel is like Notepad.exe is to Word.
> GAEL2 is an EDA package for Gnome2, again its pretty simple. There are
> lots of very alpha stage PCB layout packages. I actually downloaded and
> tried out several. Basically for all the
>
> Of course moving from Protel or any Windows package to Linux may not be
> that simple if you have lots of previous Protel designs or have to
> exchange CAD files with colleugues using Protel. As my circuit was new I
> was able to make a clean jump.
>
> Here is a reall good set of refs for EDA on Linux:
> http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/1/index.shtml
>
>
> Mike
> ---
> Michael Lake
> Linux enthusiast, caver and interested in anything technical.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [SLUG] DosEmu & Protel Trax

2002-09-18 Thread Amanda Wynne

OK. Read the Dosemu Howto. Installed Dosemu & Freedos from MDK8.2 rpm's.
At this point, after re-reading the how-to several more times, I could do a
dir, & copy stuff to/from floppy. Trying to run any program which had
graphics output caused the whole system to go bye-byes.
Figured I had a problem with my video setup in dosemu.conf. But what? The
how-to isn't all that clear, and I knew all these programs had worked
previously on this hardware under windoze.

So I Google'd for "dosemu conf video", and found several mailing list
postings with particular suggestions which made everything a lot clearer.
These are the lines I changed to get it working. My video card is a GeForce
2.

$_video = "vga"  # one of: plainvga, vga, ega, mda, mga, cga
$_console = (1)  # use 'console' video
$_graphics = (1) # use the cards BIOS to set graphics
$_videoportaccess = (1) # allow videoportaccess when 'graphics' enabled


$_chipset = "plainvga"  # one of: plainvga, trident, et4000, diamond, avance
   # cirrus, matrox, wdvga, paradise, ati,
s3, sis


Some words about Protel for Dos, for those Dinosaurs like me who've used it
for more years than they care to name, and just can't get the hang of these
new all-singing, all-dancing, windows-based ecad packages.

There is a set of vesa graphic drivers now available. Almost all modern
cards support vesa bios. Even AGP cards which I find truly amazing. Anyway,
they're available here.


I'd like to thank Steve from Airborn for making these available.

Amanda


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Subject: Re: [SLUG] DosEmu & Protel Trax
Date: 18 Sep 2002 19:36:32 +1000
From: Ramon Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Amanda,

Do you mind giving a run down (for the benefit of the uneducated)
of the process you did to get thus far :-)

Would be very interested to know
Thanks.

- ramon



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[SLUG] DosEmu & Protel Trax

2002-09-18 Thread Amanda Wynne

Just wanted to say I've got it going (finally). I haven't got the mouse 
sorted yet, but I'm working on it.

Next milestone: Goodbye Windoze.

Amanda
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Re: [SLUG] Cheap network cards?

2002-09-17 Thread Amanda Wynne

 Patrick must be psychic, he wrote his reply to this message 4 months
ago. <\tic>

- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Kelso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:41 PM

Subject: Re: [SLUG] Cheap network cards?

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Re: [SLUG] Cheap network cards?

2002-09-17 Thread Amanda Wynne

Most of the embedded applications with on-board ethernet use the RTL8139. If
they're such a cpu hog, how come they work fine with 8 bit micros
??

Amanda


- Original Message -
From: "Crossfire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Just realise that the rtl8139's are simplistic cards (hence their
> compatibility), but you trade off their simplicity against the amount
> of CPU time in the host they burn.
>


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Re: [SLUG] dosemu; help needed

2002-09-17 Thread Amanda Wynne

I've got dosemu itself going. Exitemu works fine. I can dir, copy to/from
floppy (painfully slowly).
But I can't get anything worthwhile working. Protel Trax just goes into a
black hole. Nothing. Reset button recovery. Same with a number of simple
little dos games. I think it's a video card setting problem in dosemu.conf.
All this dos software works on this hardware (it's a dual boot with WinME).
The video card's a TNT2, but I'm not sure what I should be putting in the
conf file under video. The card is vesa bios compatible(most cards are).
Should I put vesa in the conf file. All help appreciated as I can't kill off
windows till I get Protel going under dosemu. I need it for work.

Amanda

- Original Message -
From: "Angus Lees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] dosemu; help needed


> At Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:31:06 +1000, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> [dosemu's exitemu.com]
> > yes there is, but it's inside a hdimage file. I've pulled it out, &
> > copied it over to my bootdir. I want it this way so I can access the
> > files in there directly from Linux.
>
> you'll want to copy over all the other tools there too. stuff like
> cdrom.sys and lredir.com are very useful.
>
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Re: [SLUG] Cheap network cards?

2002-09-17 Thread Amanda Wynne

I'm using several of the RTL8139 10/100 cards with no problems. Cost about
$20.00 each at the markets.

I think Dazza doesn't know where to shop.<\tic>

Amanda.
If you wanna how to shop, ask a woman.


- Original Message -
From: "DaZZa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Richard Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Cheap network cards?


> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Richard Hayes wrote:
>
> > Can anyone recommend good cheap network cards?
>
> Pick any two.
>
> Good. Cheap. Available.
>
> depends how you define "cheap". You can pick up good NE2000 clones based
> on the realTek chipset for somewhere around the $25 mark if you're happy
> with a 10 meg network card. A 100 meg card will cost more - probably
> around $120 for the lower end of the market. Sever grade cards - hell, you
> can pay up to $500 a card, but they're bulletproof.
>
> Depends what you're after, really.
>
> DaZZa
>
>

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Re: [SLUG] dosemu; help needed

2002-09-13 Thread Amanda Wynne

yes there is, but it's inside a hdimage file. I've pulled it out, & copied it 
over to my bootdir. I want it this way so I can access the files in there 
directly from Linux.

Next problem. Has anybody on the list got Protel Autotrax working under 
dosemu? I've seen references around the web that it's supposed to work fine, 
but right now it seems beyond me.

Amanda



On Friday 13 September 2002 19:00, you wrote:
> 
>
> > So.
> >
> > edit the dosemu.conf to make it use hdimage.freedos, copy exitemu.com to
> > somewhere, get out of freedos (presumably using exitemu.com), copy the
> > file to my /bootdir, change dosemu.conf back to my bootdir, and then run
> > dos from there?
>
> *blink*
>
> Ouch, yeah, sounds good. :-) There isn't an exitemu.com included in your
> DOSEMU package?
>
> - Jeff
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[SLUG] dosemu; help needed

2002-09-13 Thread Amanda Wynne

Hi all,

I installed dosemu 1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm from my MDK8.2 CD's onto my MDk8.2 
system. I made a directory under /var/lib/dosemu called /bootdir, and copied 
across command.com, io.sys, msdos.sys, config.sys, autoexec.bat from a win95 
installation.

Dos appears to run fine, except I can't get out of it. The dosemu howto says 
to run exitemu.com, except I can't find such a file anywhere. Also, 
ctrl-alt-pgdn also won't exit it.

Amanda
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Re: [SLUG] AmiPro *.sam to OpenOffice

2002-09-12 Thread Amanda Wynne

I'm using 1.0.
Save to PDF sounds great. My boss is gonna love it.
Using the convertor pack for MS and doing a double conversion, from *.sam to
MS *.doc, then opening that with OO gives pretty reasonable results.

Amanda


- Original Message -
From: "Ken Foskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "slug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] AmiPro *.sam to OpenOffice


> On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 12:32, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> > I just tried several documents. Saving from Amipro as *.doc & OO won't
open
> > them at all. Saved a document with lots of tables as *.rtf, OO will open
it
> > but the tables are a mess. A lot of cells span multiple columns in the
> > original *.sam, but not in OO. Might be time to RTFM.
>
> Which version of OOo   1.0.1 is the latest there have been some fixes
> but there are still some issues with tables especially with figures. The
> next release is even better with save to PDF.
>
> There is a very active group creating a Word Perfect import filter right
> now.  Someone who was really keen for WP conversion is funding a
> programmer to make it happen.
>
> Thanks
> KenF
> Your local Open Office developer
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Re: [SLUG] AmiPro *.sam to OpenOffice

2002-09-11 Thread Amanda Wynne

I just tried several documents. Saving from Amipro as *.doc & OO won't open
them at all. Saved a document with lots of tables as *.rtf, OO will open it
but the tables are a mess. A lot of cells span multiple columns in the
original *.sam, but not in OO. Might be time to RTFM.

Amanda


- Original Message -
From: "Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] AmiPro *.sam to OpenOffice


http://consultingtimes.com/SOConversions.html

"Incredible as it may sound, not everyone uses Microsoft Office. In
particular, there are millions of loyal WordPerfect Office users,and a
lesser number of WordPro (née AmiPro) fans.

Unfortunately, StarOffice has almost no support for WordPerfect Office
conversions. There are no export filters. The only import filters are
for WordPerfect (no Quattro Pro or Presentations), the latest of which
is for WordPerfect 7 documents. Zero for WordPro. AmiPro docs can be
imported.

None of the miscellaneous text converters are available in StarOffice
for Linux. According to Xavier Basora, over at Penguinista.org, these
belong to Word4Word and there's a prohibition against taking them to a
different platform."

Also:

What else does amipro save as?

Rich Text Format will import well as will most .doc styles.

Maybe you could write an amipro macro to save as .doc or .rtf and then
load them into star office.

This is hearsay from an IBM Roadshow recently so check the facts: The
other good news is that IBM donated the file format definitions for
LOTUS products to Open Office to ensure that you can read/write
documents in OO. Not sure how far off that is from implementation
though.

>From Star Office doco:

"Importing is normally not problematic. Even editing information and
controls are imported (and exported) so that StarOffice recognizes
inserted or deleted text in Word documents as well as font attributes
that have been modified. This information can also be given different
coloring for each author. Furthermore, information about the time of
such changes is also included. When graphic text boxes and labels are
imported from templates, most of the attributes are also imported as
hard paragraph and drawing attributes. However, some of the attributes
may be lost during the import procedure.

It is also possible to import and export RTF files. This file format can
be used to exchange formatted texts across various applications and
platforms. In this way, may formats read by most programs will be
transferred without a problem. The clipboard uses RTF format when you
insert part of a spreadsheet from StarOffice Calc via DDE into
StarOffice Writer."


HTH


Stu



On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 10:14, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> Anybody got any idea how to convert a heap of documents from AmiPro 3.2
(1994) into something that Open Office can read?
>
> Amanda


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[SLUG] AmiPro *.sam to OpenOffice

2002-09-11 Thread Amanda Wynne



Anybody got any idea how to convert a heap of 
documents from AmiPro 3.2 (1994) into something that Open Office can 
read?
 
Amanda


[SLUG] Xcdroast & data CD's

2002-09-11 Thread Amanda Wynne

Mandrake 8.2.  Xcdroast 0.98 alpha 9. The drive is a Samsung combo drive, 
SM316.
Audio CD's appear to be no problem. But if I put a data cd in there to copy, 
it says it is empty.

Obviously, I can see the files on the CD just fine in anything else; eg 
Krusader.

My previous CD burner, a Mitsumi 2 speed, had the same problem.

But I'm getting tired of re-booting to windoze just to copy a CD.

I suppose I could rip an ISO image of the CD from the command line, but it 
seems rather pointless when xcdroast has this nice little "Duplicate CD" 
button.

Amanda
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Re: [SLUG] Mozilla save all Greek to me

2002-09-07 Thread Amanda Wynne

When you save the file, do you change the extension from "php" to "htm"?

There's also a style sheet associated with this page (do a view source & look 
near the top).
Without this file, your browser has to guess at what fonts to use.

Amanda


On Sunday 08 September 2002 09:26, you wrote:
> I often save web pages from Mozilla for later reading off line. Just
> occasionally one of these pages looks perfect when first downloaded but
> comes up in Greek-like characters after being saved. A case in point is
> the recent article on KDE/GNOME release managers,
> http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=205
>
> What causes this and how can I stop it happening?
>
> John
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[SLUG] Fw: The Embedded Muse 74

2002-09-07 Thread Amanda Wynne

Just thought I'd forward this along.
Amanda

- Original Message -
From: "Jack Ganssle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:27 AM
Subject: The Embedded Muse 74


> The Embedded Muse
>
> 
> Embedded Muse 74Copyright 2002 TGG September 5, 2002
> 
> You may redistribute this newsletter for noncommercial purposes. For
> commercial use contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> EDITOR: Jack Ganssle, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> CONTENTS:
> - Editor's Note
> - K and k
> - Thought for the Week
> - About The Embedded Muse
>
>
> Editor's Note
> -
> My August column in Embedded Systems Programming (on-line at
> http://embedded.com/story/OEG20020729S0045) about engineering ethics
> continues to garner quite a bit of feedback. There's an interesting site
> with some case histories at
> http://onlineethics.org/moral/LeMessurier/lem.html. I'm happy to see that
> the site is largely organized for use in educational settings. Thought
> problems encourage people to consider the implications of their actions.
> Recommended.
>
>
> K and k
> ---
> We computer folks use the "kilo" prefix pretty arbitrarily, sometimes
> referring to 1024 (that CPU has a 64k address space) or sometimes as 1000
> (he's pulling down 200k+ per year!). I was surprised to discover that
these
> terms have formal definitions.
>
> The International System of Units (the metric system) defines prefixes and
> abbreviations for multiples of ten, as follows:
>
> 10**3   kilo(symbol k)
> 10**6   mega(symbol M)
> 10**9   giga(symbol G)
>
> (There are many more, ranging from 10**-24 to 10**24, but that's outside
of
> a computer discussion).
>
> None of these are a surprise to any developer, perhaps with the exception
> of the case used for the abbreviations. Note that the M for mega and G for
> giga are always capitalized. Why is this crucial? Consider that lower case
> "m" means milli, so if we casually specify 4 mB of RAM we're asking for
> .004 bytes.
>
> Now it gets interesting. The metric system does not specify units for
> binary multipliers, but those wacky folks at the International
> Electrotechnical Commission, with the support of the IEEE, NIST, and other
> organizations, created a standard.
>
> The system is:
> 2**10  kibi (symbol Ki) (one kibi is 1024)
> 2**20  mebi (symbol Mi) (one mebi is 1 048 576)
> 2**30  gibi (symbol Gi) (one gibi is 1 073 741 824)
>
> To further refine things, a byte is abbreviated "B" (capital B, that is),
> and a bit is, well, "bit".
>
> This means:
> 1 kibibyte is 1 KiB, or 1024 bytes
> 1 kibibit is 1 Kibit, or 1024 bits
> 1 mebibyte is 1 MiB, or 1 048 576 bytes
> 1 mebibit is 1 Mibit, or 1 048 576 bits
> 1 gibibyte is 1 GiB, or 1 073 741 824 bytes
> 1 gibibit is 1 Gibit, or 1 073 741 824 bits
>
> The expression 64 kB means exactly 64 000 bytes. We are not allowed to say
> "the Z80 has a 64 kB address range", because that is wrong. The correct
> version is "the Z80 has a 64 KiB address range".
>
> We're also never allowed to use KB or Kbit - these are undefined. "k"
> (lower case) and "Ki" have meaning; "K" does not.
>
> So now there's no excuse for confusion between bits and bytes, or
> powers-of-2 multiples and powers-of-10.
>
> Since precision is an important facet of engineering I welcome these
terms,
> though will find it hard to adjust my writing appropriately...
>
>
> Thought for the Week
> 
> K: (adj.) a binary thousand, which isn't a decimal thousand or even really
> a binary thousand (which is 01000b, or eight), but is the binary number
> closest to a decimal thousand. This has proven so completely confusing
that
> is has become a standard.
>
> But now we know it's wrong...
>
>
> About The Embedded Muse
> ---
> The Embedded Muse is an occasional newsletter sent via email by Jack
> Ganssle. Send complaints, comments, and contributions to me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To subscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with the words
> "subscribe embedded email-address" in the body. To unsubscribe, change the
> message to "unsubscribe embedded email-address". BUT - please use YOUR
> email address in place of "email-address".
>
> The Embedded Muse is supported by The Ganssle Group, whose mission is to
> help embedded folks get better products to market faster.
>
>
>
>
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[SLUG] test message

2002-09-07 Thread Amanda Wynne

sorry, but I find it hard to believe there's been no messages posted since 
1am  today.
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Re: [SLUG] .rc.local

2002-09-06 Thread Amanda Wynne

I tried this but figured it was a _BAD_ idea. If the remote machine you're 
trying to mount is not available, the boot process hangs.
Your mileage may vary.

Amanda

On Friday 06 September 2002 19:22, you wrote:
> I have been trying with various success to get samba mounts to load at boot
> time... I've just found that there is another location (other than fstab)
> where I can dsignate mount points.
>
> where and what are .rc.local and is it safe to edit?
>
> Mick
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Re: [SLUG] OT: where can I get 650 MB CDR media

2002-09-04 Thread Amanda Wynne

I personally would hit North Rocks Computer Fair at North Rocks shopping
centre on any Sunday.

Amanda

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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:29 AM
Subject: [SLUG] OT: where can I get 650 MB CDR media


> anyone know of stores which still sell these media around parammatta.
> 50 - 100 units
> Ta
>
>

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Re: [SLUG] mdk, winME, dual boot, lilo, BIG Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Amanda Wynne

On Sunday 01 September 2002 06:07 pm, you wrote:
> 
>
> > Wouldn't the kernel on the floppy be the same as the one on the hard
> > disk, considering I installed mdk8.2 as a new installation?
>
> If you made the boot floppy with mdk8.2, it's most likely very similar.
> Sometimes the boot floppy images are tailored for 1.44MB and 'rescue'
> purposes. Not sure what Mandrake does here.
>
> > I also upgraded the video card recently, after the install of mdk8.2. It
> > made no difference to the problem.
> >
> > I might also add that I'm booting to a console login.
>
> But it's barfing when you start X... I'm still wondering what the video
> card is, because it may be related to the kernel differences.
>
> > There was also a layoff of about 8 months from the previous win95 / mdk
> > 8.0 to the current setup due to a change of employment, during which time
> > the machine was completely rebuilt.
>
> So it used to work okay, then you changed the hardware and installed
> mdk8.2, and only then it started dying?

YES. But I wiped 8.2 and went back to 8.0 with the same results.
Could it be related to the Mandrake partition being 20Gb out?


>
> - Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] mdk, winME, dual boot, lilo, BIG Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Amanda Wynne

Wouldn't the kernel on the floppy be the same as the one on the hard disk, 
considering I installed mdk8.2 as a new installation?

I also upgraded the video card recently, after the install of mdk8.2. It made 
no difference to the problem.

I might also add that I'm booting to a console login.

There was also a layoff of about 8 months from the previous win95 / mdk 8.0 
to the current setup due to a change of employment, during which time the 
machine was completely rebuilt.

Amanda

On Sunday 01 September 2002 05:42 pm, you wrote:
> 
>
> > My main machine at home is a dual boot machine. If I boot into mdk8.2 (or
> > previously 8.0) via lilo off the hard disk, when I log in & then go
> > "startx" it crashes big time. Like black hole. nothing. Ctrl Alt
> > Backspace won't rescue it. Reset button is only option. If I boot from
> > the boot floppy I made when installing, it works fine.
> >
> > Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7ZXE with a Duron 1000 processor. Hard disk
> > is 40 Gb. first 20 Gb is for windows. Second 20 Gb for Linux.
> >
> > I previously had a Gigabyte GA-5AA motherboard with K6-2/450 processor
> > and 20 Gb HDD dual booting Win95 & MDK8.0 which worked fine.
>
> Hrm, what's your video card? Sounds like that will be the culprit, and
> perhaps its related to kernel support for it, given that it worked with the
> previous kernel (on your boot disk).
>
> Depending on the card, you might want to choose a different Mandrake
> kernel.
>
> - Jeff
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[SLUG] mdk, winME, dual boot, lilo, BIG Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Amanda Wynne

My main machine at home is a dual boot machine. If I boot into mdk8.2 (or 
previously 8.0) via lilo off the hard disk, when I log in & then go "startx" 
it crashes big time. Like black hole. nothing. Ctrl Alt Backspace won't 
rescue it. Reset button is only option. If I boot from the boot floppy I made 
when installing, it works fine.

Is there some file I should copy off the floppy onto my hard disk? If so,  
which one? and put it where?

Any other suggestions?

Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7ZXE with a Duron 1000 processor. Hard disk is 
40 Gb. first 20 Gb is for windows. Second 20 Gb for Linux.

I previously had a Gigabyte GA-5AA motherboard with K6-2/450 processor and 20 
Gb HDD dual booting Win95 & MDK8.0 which worked fine.

Amanda
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Re: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-27 Thread Amanda Wynne

56K is a maximum. Actual connection speed will vary depending on the quality
of your phone line. Don't know about coyote as I use FreeSco. Connecting to
the cgi-bin on my router I can get all the stats, logs, etc. I usually get
49300 out of my 56K modem.

Amanda

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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: [SLUG] download speeds


> >I'm running Redhat 7.3 through a coyote firewall connected to a D-link
> >56K modem. What I'm wondering is what sort of download speeds I should
> >be getting.
> >Using wget shows somewhere around 5.5 K/s. Is this more or less what
> >to expect? I realise that it can vary according to traffic, etc.
>
> Well, 56k bps = 56 * 1000 bits per second
> 56000 bps/ 8 = 7000 bps
> 7000 bytes / 1024 bytes (1kB)= 6.8 kB/s
>
> But realistically 5.5 kB/s sustained is about as fast as you're going to
> get, and fast as i've ever experienced over 56k.
>
> -i
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[SLUG] Gcc, djgpp, and math.h

2002-08-27 Thread Amanda Wynne



I'm writing some C code for a project. I'm using 
djgpp on my windoze box at work, and gcc on mdk8.2 linux at home. Yesterday, in 
djgpp, I added some math routines which use "log", "exp", and "pow". #include 
 and it works fine. Took it home on a floppy and tried to do a 
make with gcc, and it says my above math functions aren't declared. I've got 
math.h in /usr/include, along with the other header files I'm 
using .
Does gcc have these functions declared somewhere 
else?
 
Amanda



Re: [SLUG] Use Microsoft Office in Linux? You can now! (fwd)

2002-08-18 Thread Amanda Wynne

Hate to point this out, but two things.
OpenOffice.org can already handle Word & Excel.
CxOffice doesn't (yet) handle Access. The fact that nobody else does either
is beside the point. Problem for me is all my personal financing & budgeting
is done in Access.

Amanda


- Original Message -
From: "John Ferlito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "DaZZa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Use Microsoft Office in Linux? You can now! (fwd)


> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 08:39:39PM +1000, DaZZa wrote:
> > >From another list...
> >
> > Puts paid to all the "Linux isn't suitable for desktop solutions in the
> > Office" paundits, dunnit?
> >
>
> Codeweavers crossover office actually works really well. I've been using
> it since it came out at least a few months. I've tried it with
> word and excel
> and have had few problems. I've never had it crash. I had some issues
> with printing but a quick check on there webpage which has an amazing
> support interface quickly fixed the problem.
>


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