Re: [SLUG] What would a geek want?
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 12:05:54PM +1100, Rachel Polanskis wrote: RFC numbers would be even more alienating than vi commands! No one I know around here even knows what an RFC is (apart from 1 or 2) How about a pico quick reference? :) Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OT: Propeller Caps!
Quoting Anthony Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I found a supplier in the US, but Merchandise (like Caps, T-Shirts) are a protected industry, and it's 37% duty!!! Which is why we make most of our merchandise.. You could try Scribal up in Gosford. They do all sorts of zany branding and produce so many printed lighters (20 grand per day) that they have their own lighters manufactured. They're excellent when in comes to putting art work on stuff as well. Can't attest to the price though and they use Macs but no one is perfect :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Down for the ...
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:50:15PM +1100, CaT wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:46:53PM +1100, Richard Blackburn wrote: Every now and then when I turn on the box, RH6.x does fsck and says something to the effect maximum count reached even though the shutdown was proper and there hadn't been any running problem. What is the 'count'? and do I need more of whatever is being counted? The count is how many times the disc has been mounted. If it's been mounted a certain number of times the system does an fsck just to be on the safe side. There is a way to turn it off but I, err.., can't remember it. I recall it being in the RH manual though so check the RH site out or I'm sure a friendly slugger will help. Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SQL
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:38:34AM +1100, Simon Bryan wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if it is possible to have an SQL server (of any kind) running on Linux (RH or Mandrake) that can interface with MS Access on an NT/W2K machine? If so what? I have looked at PostgreSQL and have it running - sort of - but my understanding is that for it to work I would need an ODBC driver for Access? The same goes for mySQL although you don't need to install any extra stuff except for the mySQL ODBC drivers on your Windows machine. They're worked on reasonably well so they tend to be quite efficient. I've used the mySQL and it's not too shabby at all. Can't speak for the pgsql one though. Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux doesn't have bad security...
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 01:36:38PM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:28:48PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: Try the media. They usually like a good Internet security beatup story. Suggestions anyone? How about the woman who wrote the daming article on a (ficticious) security hole in RH Linux based on A.Toad's crap. Dominique Jackson from memory (The Australian) ... she owes us one ;^) Well Dominique Jackson has gone on to fashion writing(!) but she passed it onto someone else who has contacted me. He says he's contacted the new Eisa owners about it - "who will probably say 'Huh?'". SO it will be interesting if anything comes of it. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux doesn't have bad security...
people have bad security. Every now and then this pisses me off, but I'm more pissed off than normal about it today so I thought I'd share it. I don't know if anyone has checked out the Eisa website (the ISP that would be king) but this is a damn fine case in point of Linux and unix in general gets a bad rap because of poor security. Remember, you're machine is only as secure as the swiss chesse you're running on it. I'm not sure if doing this is kosher, but more the general protection of folks out there who have used Eisa I think it's important. Machine: wzzx.eisa.net.au Function: Eisa oinline signup server (remember this). Accepts and processes online signups including credit card handling. Details: Without poking too heavily it's a linux box running, wait for it, Apache 1.0.5. Forms posted to it for signup processing go through the database system mSQL. Probably some 2.0x version. The problem: mSQL is any flavour is pretty horrid as far as security goes. Buffer overruns etc abound. One notable bug was that you could telnet to the mSQL port, press ctrl-C and bye bye server. Other problems include the ability to overflow the buffer that w3-sql (the scripting engine add-on) uses to get the script name to process and crash the server and there a freely available remote exploits out on the net to gain shell access on a machine running mSSQL. One good one opened up an xterm for you :) That's bad enough but here's the kicker. The forms posted to it are firstly not encrypted. Plain old HTTP for that including username, password and card details but they're also posted in the URL query string. Yes that's correct - the URL. Remember those remote exploits? This is script kiddie styuff. How trivial is it to gain a shell and then simply suck back the Apache access log to pull out all the query strings? It's some script kiddies wet dream! I mailed them ages ago to offer to fix it for them but of course no response. Come on! This is the company that wanted to buy Ozemail. Thank god that fell through... Why does this bother me? If I was an Eisa customer or even an ex-Eisa customer with my details sitting on that server waiting for someone to come along, I'd be getting on that phone pretty darn quick. I also hope that other people will nag them into doing something about it or shame them into it. Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux doesn't have bad security...
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 11:59:03AM +1100, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: Why does this bother me? If I was an Eisa customer or even an ex-Eisa customer with my details sitting on that server waiting for someone to come along, I'd be getting on that phone pretty darn quick. I also hope that other people will nag them into doing something about it or shame them into it. I am not sure whether you are or arent (I understand you dont want to say that) but I wonder if it is possible to bring them to court for some case of "neglect of sth??", you might want to talk to your lawyer? Yeah not sure if I want to go down that road of course. You'd have to prove (and I'm no lawyer) that you actually lost something I spose. Does the potential for something to happen equate or come close to it actually happening? I'm thinking of someone taking me to court for driving a car because I may hit them at some point. I suppose it's a question of odds. f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgmmng. [Anon] Hey! I can read that! :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] And I say such rude things about it...
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 11:59:16AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Morning, Especially to those poor few of us who have to deal with PHP on a day to day basis... Throw ?=PHPE9568F36-D428-11d2-A769-00AA001ACF42 at the end of one of your PHP4 website URLs. That's really the last straw. Good lord! /me looks at the source code. Hmm. #define PHP_EGG_LOGO_GUID Ah, it's an April 1st thing. Shows up then, how cute. Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux doesn't have bad security...
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:28:48PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: Try the media. They usually like a good Internet security beatup story. Suggestions anyone? Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PHP vs Perl security.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:12:06AM +1100, Michael Lake wrote: Not wanting to start a perl/PHP jihad... ;) Pro PHP / Con Perl: * PHP often seems easier than Perl in its syntax for many common web/datbase queries. True. Well I think so anyway but I'm biased. For people who use Perl a lot, the same could be said though. It's a matter of what you're familiar with. * Variables from forms are automatically available to the script they call out without parsing them. (can this be abused/used by crackers?) Correct. By dfault, PHP sets an order by which these are available which by default is EGPCB Environment, GET, POST, Cookies, Built-in That means that variables are overwritten in that order, so a POST var can override a GET var but not the otherway around so people can't hack the query string. You can also use track_vars to access PHP variables in a series of arrays which address GET/POST etc variables directly without relying on the variable order. * lots of people seem to be using PHP and it seems very "in". Yep :) * There are classes available for PHP so you can do object orientated programming. No where near as many as Perl and waay to fractured. Con PHP/Pro Perl: * Perl is older and more stable than PHP so may have less opportunity for buffer overruns and other security holes. Very true. * Perl is more stable so current apps written with Perl 5.004 will run for ages whereas a PHP 4 app might not run when PHP 5.0 comes out say next year. PHP endeavours to keep this to an abso minimum. There were very few incompatibilities between PHP 3 and PHP 4. * Much of your code in PHP seems to be sent to the user when the form is requested as its embedded in the HTML so the user could look at this and possibly glean info that may help them in cracking. In Perl one would tend to generate the HTML and just send it (unless it were embedded Perl which one can do). Not true, the code is parsed by the server and delivered as HTML. Anything inside a PHP script block is hidden. Of course if you setup include files etc incorrectly then you are going to have problems but that's a server security issue like leaving .htpasswd files laying about. There are prob lots of things that I haven't considered but generally given that this must be a reasonably secure database does this dictate Perl over PHP or not? Is it more a function of how the programmer implements the code? The database is independent so there's another level of security. mySQL, postgreSQL all have good security models although insecure code won't help. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Distro for 20M Ram
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:32:16PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: netscape always runs slow. it will run even slower. text browsers in an xterm work fine. links (not lynx) supports mouse, etc if that improves it any. Maybe check out some of those alternative browsers? Galeon/Opera and some Tcl/Tk one mentioned on the list could be way more useful than Netscape. Running the X4.0.1 debs when they stabilise and shrink coul dbe a good idea. At the moment they're pretty large but Branden intends to strip them when they go release. He's compiling with all sorts of patches and optimisations AFAIK so should still be quite peppy. Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] lpr error (SOLVED)
Well baste my steaming puddings! After cursing at apsfilter and printtool, I wandered off and installed CUPS along with the correct drivers and the whole thing ran smooth as silk. A quick deb install, a flash at the docs and my printer is happily printing away like - well a printer really. CUPS def looks pretty saucy, the printer control stuff as far as acepting/rejecting and queing jobs looks way more practical and the web interface is nice too :) So really not solved but worked around. :) Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] lpr error (SOLVED)
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:43:01AM +1100, Erich Schulz wrote: Just a quick question, were you running the old BSD lpr package, or the the newer lprng ? The BSD package that comes with suse is almost completely useless. It is not worth installing if you do anything other than local printing, becasue it just does not work with anything over the net. Excellent question and I'm glad you asked thatm, no idea :). Will 'the Debian one' suffice? :) Considering Debianites are such version freaks I'm sure that it was the new one. Cheers, Graeme -- Turn on, dial in, geek out... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] lpr error
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 08:12:02PM +1100, tom burkart wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Graeme Merrall wrote: fine. Printing via lpr gives an error of "No spool file found" which is dutifully printed out. Does the spool directory exist? Oh yeah spose I should have mentiomed that :) There is a /var/spool/lpd/lp directory with various files in it drwxr-xr-x2 lp lp 4096 Oct 19 14:16 . drwxrwsr-x4 lp lp 4096 Oct 19 14:15 .. -rw-rx1 root lp 4 Oct 19 14:16 .seq -rw-r--r--1 lp lp190 Oct 19 14:15 general.cfg -rw-r--r--1 root root 18 Oct 19 14:16 lock -rw-r--r--1 lp lp342 Oct 19 14:15 postscript.cfg -rw-rw-r--1 root root 25 Oct 19 14:16 status -rw-r--r--1 lp lp148 Oct 19 14:15 textonly.cfg Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] lpr error
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 08:22:29PM +1100, Graeme Merrall wrote: Does the spool directory exist? Oh yeah spose I should have mentiomed that :) There is a /var/spool/lpd/lp directory with various files in it drwxr-xr-x2 lp lp 4096 Oct 19 14:16 . drwxrwsr-x4 lp lp 4096 Oct 19 14:15 .. -rw-rx1 root lp 4 Oct 19 14:16 .seq -rw-r--r--1 lp lp190 Oct 19 14:15 general.cfg -rw-r--r--1 root root 18 Oct 19 14:16 lock -rw-r--r--1 lp lp342 Oct 19 14:15 postscript.cfg -rw-rw-r--1 root root 25 Oct 19 14:16 status -rw-r--r--1 lp lp148 Oct 19 14:15 textonly.cfg Apologies to Gus, I accidentally deleted his message, in answer to his question about my printcap. lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:\ :if=/usr/share/printtool/master-filter: so it all looks reasonably normal. Very odd. Might try a diff printer setup program or try manually. I find apsfilter a bit annoying the way it sets up all those different printers. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: lpr error
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 03:56:41PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: some of the files in your spool directory aren't writable by lp.lp i'd feel better if they were, try: chown -R lp.lp /var/spool/lpd/lp (make sure you get the .seq file too - i don't know what that one's for.. a job number?)] Bottom burp, that didn't work either. Ah well, back to apsfilter I think. Thanks anyway. When apsfilter annoys me again, I might follow the printing HOWTO and look for problems. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] https - where to start ?
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 05:32:00PM +1000, Steven Kerr wrote: Good Afternoon. In some spare time I have coming up, I wish to explore the possibility of setting up a https server. Where would one actually start ? I don't wish to purchase commercial certificates etc, but just want to *play* with https I have started to use the RPM for apache-ssl-1.3.6_1.35-3.i386.rpm but am getting stuck with the private/public key sets. What other *things* do I need before I start playing ? Has anyone successfully gone down the path of building a https server from the above mentions RPM and if so do you have any comments/procedures that you would share ? I prefer mod_ssl but anyway... The first thing you need to do to actually start playing is create a private key and a certificate. You'll need ssleay for this. There may well be instructions for this with your RPM, it's been a while for me, otherwise most certificate signing agenices like Verisign/Thawte will have instructions on how to do it. Check: https://www.thawte.com/certs/server/keygen/apachessl.html That will give you a start and get you up and runnign ta least, except your browser will bith and moan about you not having a valid certificate. Next, you want to play with becoming your own CA. That way you can create your own root CA (I think that's the term) which you use to sign other certificates with. Basically the procedure is that you create a setup where you act as a CA (that's certificate authority BTW) and sign the certificate you just produced. In order for your browser not to bitch and moan you can install a doohickey (another certificate) whichi means the browser recognises any certificates signed by you as valid. Netscape has suitable paranoia when you do this so you know it's happening so users can't be hoodwinked. I don't know about IE though. Information on becoming your own CA is a little sketchy. The ssleay FAQ has some info on it but I've always found the ssleay docs hard to get round. A google search came up with: http://wls.wwco.com/security/myca.html Thwte offers to create a test cert with a short expiry time so you can tinker. From memoey they do essentially the same as above where you install a root CA thing into your browser which is testing and they sign a certificate against it so you can't use your cert in the real world. Check: https://www.thawte.com/cgi/server/test.exe Oh yeah, it's openssl now isn't it? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] WYSIWYG HTML editors and a bigpond question
Does anyone know of a good WYSIWYG editor for X? I've got some boring boring HTML stuff I need to do and I know of know useful package. Worse still Dreamweaveri won't run in Win4Lin so I need to go to darn Win98. I think Staroffice has one but I'm not gonna download that for just this thing :) Secondly, is it me or is BPA as slow as a wet week. A lot of stuff I'm getting at the mo crawls along modem speed or worse. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] viewing troops.mov ?
On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 06:59:20PM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote: Has anyone used the qt4 player under wine/win4lin? CVan't say I have but I've used Media PLayer OK in Win4Lin except there is no sound. Not sure of the 2.0 beta status at all. I expect QT will work just as fine under Win4Lin. Not related but XMPS is coming along as a MPG player and you can plug a win DivX Dll into it to play DivX AVI's. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Win4Lin error general warning
If anyone is using the Win4Lin 1.0.4-eval version be aware that you're going to probably get a nasty mysterious error related to things flicking over to October. Apparently there was a bug in the eval time limit which meant rather than lasting for 15 days the program crapped out on Sept 30th. Good eh? Trelos has replacement files available. Better yet, purchase the program rather than running the eval. :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Miguels Unix Sucks paper and sluggers thoughts.
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 04:10:20PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: HTML doesn't offer the description of information that XML does, nor does it offer the flexibility with regards to such things as entities. In fact, the next few iterations of the GNOME documentation system will show how powerful this is. :) My only exposure to large scale XML docs has been the PHP manual which monstrous and is produced entirely in XML with diff languages and everything. There's a case study on it lurking about on the zend.com site AFAIK. Additionally, I'm working on a project where we produce XML files for print ad online and at the same time, we parse it and slurp everything into 2000 database records all in one handy wee loop from parsing XML. Without knowing jack at the mo about things like XSL and so on, I have to concur with Jeff. While HTML was invented to be simple and to allow people to work within a narrow field, it's time has come and gone. Much more powerful tools will supercede (sp?) it and it's only a matter of time. Actually, you only have to look at Word2000 HTML output. It's heavy on the XML as I recall. :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] win4lin
On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 04:26:11PM +1100, Bill Hiley wrote: For those of us poor souls who (occasionally of course) have to run a Windows program - does anyone have any experience with 'Win4Lin' and can offer any comparison with other products eg. Vmware, Wine etc I'm a hoppy user of Win4Lin. It is a bit of a drag with kernel patches and that sort of thing. Last time I looked a win4lin-v1 2.2.17 patch was not available. It's good if all you want to do is run Win98 or Win95 for using some apps - which is all I need it for. VMware is good if you need yo utilise more heavy duty features of windows of you need to emulate an entire machine or install another OS as Win4Lin only does Windows9x. iI also found VMware quite sluggish on my machine. Since I only need to use a few apps Win4Lin does me fine and it boots pretty damn fast. Th eprice is better to. My only problem with it is some wierd video problems but I can live with it. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] win4lin
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 12:27:51PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only problem with it is some wierd video problems but I can live with it. you would not be referring to lack of display refresh in XFree86 V4.0 ? I had this problem until a friend suggested setting the BackingStore option in the config - which fixed the problem nicely. That's a mighty fine question. I'll have a look and see. If it sures the problem I shall be most gratefuil. Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] gtk+ can't find -lXt
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 07:25:08AM +1100, Nick Croft wrote: I've apt-got a few other files the compiler found missing but am stumped on this one. I would have though "X" was fundamental. Help would be much appreciated please. You probably need the xlibs packages. I'm not sure which file libXt would be in but option lib or dev archives are a good place to start. Here's one for the Debian ppl though, is it possible to query a file to see which package it came from? I recall that it's possible to do it with RPM with something like 'rpm -qf file'. Does thism mean RH's package manager can do something that Debian's cant't? (/me ducks) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] gtk+ can't find -lXt
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 10:43:44AM +1100, Graeme Merrall wrote: On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 07:25:08AM +1100, Nick Croft wrote: I've apt-got a few other files the compiler found missing but am stumped on this one. I would have though "X" was fundamental. Help would be much appreciated please. You probably need the xlibs packages. I'm not sure which file libXt would be in but option lib or dev archives are a good place to start. Here's one for the Debian ppl though, is it possible to query a file to see which package it came from? I recall that it's possible to do it with RPM with something like 'rpm -qf file'. Does thism mean RH's package manager can do something that Debian's cant't? (/me ducks) Well look at that. Props to Jeff :) # dpkg -S libXt xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6 xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.a xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.a xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0 xlibs-dev: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so xlibs: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6.1 I knew about -S but never connected mentally of course. Oh yeah, these are X4.0.1 debs so yours may be different. Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] URL: X 4.0 optimisations
For people who want more from XFree 4.0x, check this: http://linux.com/tuneup/database.phtml/X11/001945.html Small amounts of file editing in X4.0.01 code (2 lines) for a reported 20% increase in various operations. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dumb email question
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:50:05PM +1000, Doug Stalker wrote: I've just noticed that + seems to be a valid char in email addresses which is news to me :) ... but will it work with all mail programs? I seem to recall + being used to route messages between hosts: something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or it may be case of something that should work according to teh standard but whih often doesn't. Like the way some programs wont let you specifiy a proper netmask, they restrict you to Class A/Class B/Class C only. I'm sure it's nothing major. I was looking at the perennial email regex problem and one I noticed used + so I was more curious then anything. I had a wee look at RFC's but the title of 822 tricked me :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] New for version freaks :)
Just to let everyone know that a new version of Evolution has been released (0.5) which shoul dkeep us downloaders happy :) Also for NVidia users there is a new version of the NVidia X drivers out (0.95). These aren't as super new as Evolution but new enough. Changeog below. * Improve XFree86 4.0.1 support * re-fixed console switch lockup * fix some AGP regressions. Better detection/support for AGPGART * fix color palette problems (xgamma, direct color visuals) * add bios posting override to help with some card problems (M64) * update included 2.4 support to newest test kernels Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Dumb email question
I've just noticed that + seems to be a valid char in email addresses which is news to me :) Can someone point me to the right RFC or some official type doco on this? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Wierd host in network traffic
Hey hey. I was wondering what was making my cable modem lights blink this morning when nothing was running except for bpalogin on our home network. I checked the archives and grabbed ntop which is pretty funky and started watching on the external ethernet card. I've been seeing some traffici to ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.NET which I'm unable to idenify although a whois shows it belongs to IANA so I don't think it's anything bad. :) While not being a DNS exxport type person I looked in the root name servers file and no mention of it there. Anyone able to shed some light? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Wierd host in network traffic
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 12:06:59PM +1100, John Ferlito wrote: This means something is sending traffic to a multicast address. multicast is similar to broadcast except hosts have to join a multicast group to pick up the traffic. What is the source address on the packets this should give you an idea on if you're generating them or your cable provider is. Possible sources are. Routing updates eg ospf, rip ntp multicast streaming video Hmm yeah it's odd that the on;y 2 machiens I could see communicating are the gateway and my own Linux desktop. Very mysterious. I might try the suggestion of tcpdump and see where it gets me. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] XFree86 4.01 Debs
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 03:01:59PM +0100, Thom May wrote: it definitely seems worthwhile. however, there are still somewierdnesses. the major one is that my vt's are totally shot - the brightness of the things drops to about 1% of the previous, but thats it. definitely worth it, i think.. Praise the lord and pass the peanuts :) I've been running the binaries for a while now with my XFree card but it would be nice to bring X into line with the rest of the deb packages. My only beef is that You've got to have the mesa stuff installed to have the GL xsreensavers but the mesa stuff collides with the NVidia stuff. Oh well it's a small price to pay. Oh and on an unrelated note, thanks to Jamie and Grahame (only the 2nd time I've seen it spelled that way) for their help in getting my tvcard going. The Wiggles have never looked so good :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dynalink TV Tuner card
OK well I've got a little further along with this. The blisteringly insightful 'read the man poge' was like an epiphany to me, but enough on that. My problem is not configuring xawtv but ensuring my bttv etc modules are all OK. I'll sketch some details here but if someone has one of these beasts going who can contact me off-list I'd be grateful. Compiled and installed latest i2c (2.5.2) as kernel patches COmpiled and installed latest BTTV (0.7.41) which has way more cards supported. Now according to theory (and the man page) setting for Australia and PAL should make the magic happen as far as channels go. Somewhere up around channel 60 I can get Prime - just. Really the whole thing comes down to settings afaik. I've tried autodetect and various card types such as Askey and the specific Dynalink type. I think I get held up on the tuner section which I specify as 0 (Temic PAL) which is certainly what appears on the card but no go. Additionally, the choice of the sound module has me stumped but I stumbled over TEA3600 although I've no idea if it's correct. Google has thus far proved fruitless as well. I'm kinda hoping it's not something to do with me running X4.0.1 and a TNT2 etc although nothing odd shows up turning on debugging in the modules. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Nvidia Setup
I'm trying to setup the nvidia x-server add ons. I need xfree 4.0 I tried the redhat rpm's from the rawhide directories but they require rpm version 4, which i dont have. So any ideas about getting xfree 4.0 up and running ? I've got it up and runnign fine thanks to the HOWTO John pointed out. I've got Debian admittedly but I used the binaries for 4.0.1 and it worked fine with no problems. The config file takes a bit of getting used to and you nede to make sure you deal with Mesa properly but it's no biggie. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dnamic DNS with Linux domains?
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 04:22:52PM +1000, Arunava Sen wrote: I have one of these penguinpowered.com dynamic dns thingies so i can access my ip with: whatever.penguinpowered.com anyone know of any other cool linux-sounding dynamic dns things (which are not as long as "penguinpowered")? One of the shorter ones out it no-ip.com which also has wildcard DNS and will do MX records as well. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Nautilis preview
I'm sure we've seen that Slashdot article about Nautilis going to preview 1. I've heard a rumour of one slugger giving it a go? Anyone got it up and running? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Wierd samba goings on
I've been having this wierd thing happen with Samba today. I've got samba on a machine running away happily which I mount on my other linux box - basically cos I haven't been bothered to set up NFS yet and it's only real silly minor file editing I need it for. Anyhoo, today my editor (nedit) keeps complaining that the file I'm editing has been modified by another program and wats to know if it should reload. Now the wierd thing is, this only happens after I save the file in question. Another thing is that it seems to make something like memory like a sieve and after a lot of saves I eventually run out of swap and down goes my machine. I've had a looksee in the samba logs but I can't see anything in there that catches my attention. Can anyone shed some light on this? I tried the same in Vi but nothing happend. Whether that's because it didn't happen or vi just didn't tell me I don't know. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ICQ irc through ipchains
On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 01:19:48PM +1000, marty wrote: what client are you guys using ?? GnomeICU although I've tried licq. I'm able to get files out but not in. never had much luck with file transfers and GnomeICU. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ASP and apache?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 12:14:19PM +1000, George Vieira wrote: I'm not sure if it exists or what but is there ASP support for Apache 1.3? Someone from out clients site has decided to run ASP and wants to remove the Linux box there and I'd like to keep it there is possible... *shudder* There are one or two options out there. Chiilisoft ASp is the most advanced and of course it's commercial. There are some OSS projects going though. Apache::ASP is one at http://www.nodeworks.com/asp/. There's umm something called openasp or freeasp or something I saw once. Google didn't help me on that one though. Another more amusing alternative is to use PHP's COM interface and go hard that way. :) It'll be, let's say, amusing? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian and Win4Lin
No problem really. For those who are interested, I surprised myself by being able to download the Corel deb and install it under woody without a single problem. I was under the imporession that corel deb fiels wouldn't work. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win2k Debian/Mandrake
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 08:02:20PM +1000, Dan Treacy wrote: Just a couple of questions: Firstly does anyone know of any good resources for info on Win2k/linux multibooting. I have a few but most aren't that great. Just wondering if there were some that I missed. There's a WinNT/Linux mini-HOWTO which covers this for NT and it works fine in Win2000 cos I've done it :). Basically it's a matter of using dd to create a boot sector thingy, then copy it over to your win2k partition, edit boot.ini and away you go. Second is related to this I'm still tossing up between Mandrake and Debian.. I've used RH/Mandrake pretty much since I've started using Linux (Although my first experience was actually with Slackware) but after seeing alot of the comments both here and elsewhere I'm pretty much convinced to give Debian a go. Two questions mainly . Just quickly are there any main/radical difference that one should be aware of, traps for the unwary coming from the other distros etc.. And the second is about 2.1/2.2 what's the general consensus on which to use at present. My intial impression was 2.2 but I imagine some of the Debian gurus out there might be able to shed a little more light. Well I've just been that way too. Started on Slackware way back in kerne; 0.99 and moved onto RedHat after coming back to Linux after a few years. I thought I'd give Debian a shot and I'm pretty darn impressed. I might even be considered a convert :). Probably the only thing to watch out for is package management. It's pretty radically different as far as things like apt-get goes anyway. Also the RH equivalent of sysconfig and network scripts is wirth watching out for but Debian handles this better. I'm going to try getting Win4Lin going next. I reckon I've got the kernel OK and I used Alien to convert the RPM so fingers crossed. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian .h files / Kernel building
If you tell LInus this, he will hate you forever. As far as he is concerned *any* distribution which make kernel source available under /usr/src/linux is broken (read the release note for 2.4). I'm not familiar with previous versions of Debian but 2.2 (out in a day or so I hope) puts them in /usr/src/kernel-source-version /usr/include/linux should always be provided by your C Library as changes to structures, or more usually, differences in structures as common. Seperating out the includes for the C library and the kernel source means that each can change without affecting the other. Thus stopping the (I hope) problem that different C libraries break with different kernels. Different C Libraries may still break applications -- but likely that application was doing something bad in the first place. Sounds pretty much like what I read in the readme for kernel-headers. What I failed to pick up was what/when and how you should use them. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] why not to multi-boot
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 12:01:23PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: can I get any of the data on /dev/hda2 back by reconstructing the superblock? I suspect that manual examination of the segments on a 2G partition would be quite boring. Dunno if anyone knows it but there's a saucy wee proggie out called explore2fs which lets you access your Linux partition from Windows. If you dont have any luck getting your superblock back, it may e possible to at least recover some data this way. It's basically a read-only program but when I'm in Win98 and I forget something that I need off my Linux partition, it's a handy wee tool. The URL is http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm and it's Australian! :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux.com in embarrassing cluelessness incident?
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 12:36:47PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: What is this?!? http://linux.com/news/articles.phtml?sid=93aid=10266 I think their cluelessness was in publishing it rather then anything else. The flames in the comments underneath should attend to that. They prob ran it because ppl would be shocked, post the URL to user groups :) and people would rush off to check it out thus driving up traffic, increasing advertising hits and encouraging them to do it again. Works for ZDNet everytime although they do temper it will real cluelessness (something for which you should accept no substitute). Not that I'm flaming anyone myself here either BTW but you only have to read /. for a while before you notice that making news there is a 'good thing' as far as site traffic goes despite the /. effect because so many ppl read it including industry heavyweights. Just imagine what would have happened if Pixelon got a /. mention before they got their real /. mention! :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] routing oops
/me hides face in shame ;) I was tinkering - yes bad idea- with portsentry to keep an eye on my gateway linux box. Matt ICQ'd me and of course portsentry freaked out and added a dey to the routing table for him, which I can't see, to now remove. The command portsentry ran is "/sbin/route add -host 203.164.XXX.XXX reject" which was odd since it was not sposed to do that but "/sbin/route del -host 203.164.XXX.XXX" would be my logical method to remove the route but route meerely reports "SIOCDELRT: No such process" Feel like a bit of a doofus (do you say that here) so if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it. Cheers, Graeme BTW: I'm also tinkering with sendmaiL,procmail and fetchmail and I'm more than happy to provide a mini-howto if anyone is interested. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] routing oops
Hey guess what? I pressed send, lookd at the web page I opened before sending the message and damn it, there it was. Curse Google. :) Sorry bout that. Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] TNT, Free86-4.0.1
John Wiltshire wrote: The guys down in Melbourne have written a nice HOWTO on this subject: Check out http://games.luv.asn.au/lsd/nvidia-mini-howto.html. Wel I'm sure everyone will be pleased to know that I had a positive Quake/Linux experience with Woody/XF-4.0.1 and my TNT2. Now to wait for Soldier of Fortune to be ported. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PHP Experts, Java integration
Now a new question: During Friday's discussion on PHP's, ah, strengths
and just prior to the "so, the benefit of PHP is that you can use some
other language" comment, somebody suggested that it was possible to have
a PHP script invoke methods on Java objects. Is that person on the list?
Does anyone know how to do this? (Yes, I've checked what appears to be
the correct FM.)
heh quite possible. Rather than using PHP to access another language,
it's to more efficiently tie in legacy systems into your online web
stuff, but that's a whole other argument.
Anyhoo, you need to have some sort of JVM installed and PHP compiled
with java object support. Check the README in ext/java.
Basically, you instantiate a reserved overloaded Java class called
'Java'. This is the same for COM support which uses 'COM'.
$system = new Java("java.lang.System");
printf("Java version %s\n", $system-getProperty("java.version"));
Cheers,
Graeme
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Re: [SLUG] X crash/freeze
David wrote: A netscape window locked up, and when I tried to kill netscape off, the whole of my windowmaker/Xsession locked up. I killed windowmaker, but when I tried to reconnect to X again (startx) I get the messages below. I'm tempted to do a windows style re-boot.. but... does anyone have a better suggestion? David. _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' ps_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Could be that xfs or whtever variant you are using has gone and done something odd? Check your porcess list and see if xfs is lurking in there and giver it a kick in the guts. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Apache/SQL type question.
My question is thus - is it possible for a client to SQL query a web
server running on the Linux box {Apache}, then have that Linux box pass
the SQL query to the second web server, whereby that web server queries
the SQL database server?
There's good reasons for not having the Linux box query the SQL database
server directly, or so I'm told.
Hmm good question and I don' have an aswer, but you could have a look at
the DBD/DBI proxy stuff. I don't know how it works but it may provide a
good starting point.
Cheers,
Graeme
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Re: [SLUG] IBM Linux advert
Dave Kempe wrote: I can't seem to reach said url. Any mirrors? Sorry about that - my gateway did something odd and I thought it was the cable as we've been having problems lately with roadworks around our area. Turned out it was a NIC thing. Anyway, all there again now. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IBM Linux advert
Graeme Merrall wrote: Dunno if anyone has seen it yet so here tis. http://inetix.bpc-users.org/ibm_linux-02.avi I'm at the end of a cable modem which is bandwidth capped at 50kbytes/sec - surse Bigpond :) oh and by the way - to the person from Optus dialup who scanned my machine? I consider that kinda rude... Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] IBM Linux advert
Dunno if anyone has seen it yet so here tis. http://inetix.bpc-users.org/ibm_linux-02.avi I'm at the end of a cable modem which is bandwidth capped at 50kbytes/sec - surse Bigpond :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: Tshirt slogans! (was Re: [SLUG] To learn, to troll, to participate?)
There was a recent post to /. concerning T-shirts and the "Unix is sexy" came top of the list. That was the front of the T shirt. The back had all the examples from /bin/sh that you can think of (although the Yanks omitted references to "root" as in USA it means "promoting" as in a football team... only in OZ does it cause such mirth!) I can't remember where I saw it but I saw a quite rude Unix Sex t-shirt somwhere. It involved various Unix commands along the lines of talk;home;mount;unmount;sleep with various potentially rude commands in between that modesty forbids me to use :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: Tshirt slogans! (was Re: [SLUG] To learn, to troll, to participate?)
but let's not make them "windoze sux" shirts, let's have some witty Linux slogans, yeah? linux != BSOD G -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian printer setup
I have this errmm 'friend', who to avoid hassles about switching to Debian, we'll call Jeff. Anyway, my ermmm 'friend' is wondering if there is a printer setp tool similar to the control-panel applet in RedHat or does my ermmm 'friend' have to muck about with printcap? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] FW: Our own Danny makes it onto Slashdot - beware the slashdot effect
Padmini Naidu wrote: I hope Danny's site is hosted on some decent hardware or its gonna get slashdotted! I wonder if Danny can tell us after the slashdot effect is finished, how much his traffic increased and how the hardware coped? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] How to annoy PINE users
Oh, and X-Message-Flags like my current one aren't really all that helpful! Since we're all into annoying Windows users - and who isn't. ON Windows 95 (not 98 mind) you could remove the start button while leaving everything else intact. There's no way to get it back unless you deliberately close explorer or restart. It's a simple series of key-presses if you have a handy victim. Ctrl-esc, esc, alt-minus, c if my memory serves me correctly. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Pasive mode ftp (ipchains alternative?)
Sitting at home with my RH Linux box masquerading for my newly acquired Mandrake box (with etherlink III card now happily working :-) I can't of course ftp from the Mandrake box to the world. Well I can make a connection but I can't do "ls" or "put" or "get" cause of the masquerade. Obvious solution is passive mode ftp, but when I was stuffing around with ppTp there was a suggestion that you could get ipchains to map the port back through (though only one box hiding behind the masq can use ftp at a time but hey I could live with that). Oh! I can aswer this one. I asked the very same question myself only a few days back with thanks to whoever answered my question. The answer is to use the ip_masq_ftp module with good ol' insmod. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PHP experts
So, I'm looking for local PHP experts who may be willing to (a) kibbutz and/or (b) roll up their sleevs and have a look. /me also puts his hand up. have a look at the apache error log as well. Segfaults will show up in there. There's been some slippage in the PHP 4 and more segfaults are creeping in then there should be. As Matt pointed out, having a look at the core or doing a backtrace can help nail things down. 'gdb httpd' 'run -X' load the page and wait for the segfault 'bt' Sometimes also compiling up a CGI versiob and running the script through there can reveal problems as well. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] bigphysarea.2.2.14.patch howto on RH6.2
George Vieira wrote: Has anybody done a patch for kernel 2.2.14 (RH 6.2) for the bigphysarea.2.2.14.patch ? How do you apply it, I did this years ago and I haven't played with the kernel for so long now... I remember it to be something like patch patchfile1 file2 You don't mean 'patch patchfile' do you? I usually run it with -p0. Running it with --dry-run is also a handy thing to do. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PPPD and reseting the modem
George Vieira wrote: Hi all, I am now working on pppd rather than using "ifup" to dial to our customers mainly to get diald working properly. What I have noticed and this also happens on "ifup" is that when the chat script runs and tries to do a ATZ, the modem doesn't respond and the dial up eventually hangs up and trys again which then it initialises OK. For some reason it doesn't respond the first time around and second time it works. This takes about 2 minutes before it eventually tries to connect and frustrates our programmers especially when the link drops out. Hmm it's been a while since I talked directly to modems but perhaps ATF may help. It's not ideal but you can use it to restore factory defaults rather than ATZ. Another alternative may be to fiddle with the AT commands until the modem is happy and then flick at an ATW to write it to non-volatile RAM. I'm wondering if it's some sort of DTR thing from the previous call. If it's an external modem does the same problem exist after powercycling the modem or in the case of an internal, power cycling the machine? Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Evolution Debs Available!
Jeff Waugh wrote: Hi Debian Weenies, Wanna play with Evolution? Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.helixcode.com/helix/evolution/distributions/Debian ./ I'm currently sucking it down, so I can't give a review... Thought you'd like to know anyway. I've had a look. It's, well, very Outlook like. Only a coupla functions work such as email and calendar. IMAP needs a little work to get going and some menus are incomplete/absent. Having said all that, the 0.2 release has a truck load of bug fixes and enhancements. While not ready for prime time yet, I'd say by 0.5 or 0.6 she's gonna look pretty saucy and warrant a serious play. I installed the 0.2 RPM myself. Installing 0.1 from source was a bitch. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] passive FTP
Herbert Xu wrote: Graeme Merrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tried out the self-installer. The problem was that I'm behind an IPChains box and the FTP transfer failed I can only guess due to the fact the transfer wasn't passive. Since newer apps are downloading You can either use ip_masq_ftp to support "normal" FTP transfers, or you can install squid which will always use passive mode by default. Well waddaya know :) works fine. I thought I'd try my new found power to download the mozillainstealler and guess what? They've included support for passive transfers since I last checked. doh! Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: CGI
how well does stuff built into the web server (like php) cope with virtual hosting? (ie: can one php script read files from another virtually hosted php user) Well I can't offer an opinion for the CGI binary but just as you can't access HTML files across virtual hosts, the same goes for PHP files. One of the security features of the PHP CGI is discarding path information so files outside of the web tree can't be accessed via the PHP CGI. There's more to it than that as normally you can't do it anyway but it offers an extra level of protection. Additionally, PHP has settigns to control max execution time and memory limits to prevent it from hogging resources. I'm sure there are similar settings for mod_perl. Nothing like a never-ending loop for server fun :) Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] CGI
Peter Faulks wrote: The client's ISP has a company policy against the use of PHP. Why? Are the ASP/IIS fans? :) Are there known security issues with PHP? Nope. You can even lock it down more by specifying safe mode and doing various bits and bobs in the compilation and cojnfiguration such as discarding redirection heading. Have a look at http://au.php.net:81/manual/html/security.html I like the concept of fast cgi, ie no database connect/disconnect every time a cgi request comes in, but I hear fast cgi hasn't really taken off.. Comments? A lot of the cgi 'bolt-ons' don't seem to have gathered much support - that's true. MOst people are happy to use mod_perl/php etc. Cheers, Graeme -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
