RE: [SLUG] mouse pointer offsets to right
If this is on a laptop, it's most likely the trackpad having a hardware failure. The Dells at work (NT) often do this just before the keyboard dies. - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:24:56PM +1000, Warren wrote: when running redhat 7.3, kde/gnome, every now and then the mouse pointer starts to point slightly to the right of the area that will receive the -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ask wake up by PID
jobs fg %1 (also fg %2, fg %3 for other stopped jobs) Regards, Jill -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: henry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2002 19:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] ask wake up by PID Dear List : I use Ctrl-z to let emacs sleep. Then I use fg to wake it up. Now I open emacs make it sleep ,I open emacs make it sleep ,I open emacs make it sleep . ( pls forgive me , English is not my native language .) How could I wake up any of them by their PID ? (I see their PID by using ps -A) BestRegards' Henry -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] bash script function
What's wrong with this?
for i in $companies; do
process ...
done
?
PS: I'm sure someone is going to try to make a buck by putting all the SLUG
bash questions in an exam that you have to sit for ...
(just kidding)
- Jill.
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From: Alister Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 12:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] bash script function
I have a global variable
companies=A B C D E
i have a call to a function that is
import_data companies
in my function I have
import_data()
{
for i in $1
do
process etc etc
done
}
this makes $1 become the word companies
Whats the syntax to make $1 become $companies and therefore substitute A B C
D E.
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RE: [SLUG] Question regarding sysv scripts
How about a background task on the FW machines that checks to see if the server is running. If it is running, the FW program goes back to sleep. If it is not running (ping or something) then the FW program checks again after a set time (in case you have just unplugged the ethernet for a short time) after which it shuts the FW down. I think HA server configurations do something like this only they use a serial line separately connected to do the server up sensing. The background task could be either a cron job (messy) or a normal program or a daemon. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy Eager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 June 2002 12:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Question regarding sysv scripts Hi all, I have an interesting question regarding SysV startup / shutdown scripts. One machine 'the server' has two smaller machines (firewalls) physically installed inside it. They are single board computers that fit into the 5.25 drive bays on the server. I have configured them as choke bastion firewalls with iptables: - No problems there. I want to be able to shutdown the server as well as the the two f/w machines at the same time, so I thought about doing this: a)Have a script in init.d that is linked from rc0.d that uses ssh to shutdown each of the f/w machines. (ssh fw1 halt, ssh fw2 halt) b)delay for about a minute c)continue the shutdown process on the server. The problem is that ssh wants a password and presumably there is no way of providing this from the console during a shutdown. Can ssh be configured not to ask for a password ? (I know this is unusual). Any better way of doing this? Regards, Andy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Printing to closest printer
I have heard of people using LDAP to specify the printer for the person when they log in, although this means one would have to have some sort of topological information stored as well. The LDAP bit would also be used in gaining access to the database. I wonder if anyone from ProgSoc / UNSW could shed some light on that project? Other than that, your suggestion sounds alright. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 June 2002 15:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Printing to closest printer Afternoon All. Our users use telnet to connect to a server where they run our main ERP application. (This is Progress RDMS running on RedHat 6.2). I am thinking about a perl script that will direct printed output to the printer closest to the users terminal ... -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Transmeta based systems
Suggestions for low power design: 1) Do not use Intel or AMD processors. They absolutely must use a fan. I think you are well aware of this! Obviously if you have to run x86 code you will have to use a Transmeta however if you consider running your own compiled code, the world is your oyster. You can then branch out to something else like the SH3 or SH4. I'm not sure about the Power PC or the MIPS processors (as to whether they need a fan or not). 2) Most high performance video graphics chips and chipsets DO need a fan. One I was looking at put out 7W of heat which you can possibly handle with a big heatsink and case ventilation. If you concentrate on this aspect of the design (rather than the processor) you will probably get over the major hurdles. 3) If you are running diskless you probably want to look at booting from flash, then running from RAM. Many processors these days support booting from flash. 4) Be prepared to pay a lot of money for hardware emulators. Software emulators are a lot cheaper but then you have the pain of having to debug something that you don't know whether it has a hardware or software fault 5) Lotsa luck! Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Richard Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2002 8:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Transmeta based systems Dear list, The other day there was an article on a new Transmeta based supercomputer. Does anyone know an Australian distributor for any Transmeta-based systems? If not, what experiences have people had with other lowpower systems? In particular I want to create a diskless Xterm with no moving parts ie fan etc. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] How to append a PDF file into another PDF file
You could convert the PDF to postscript, (not sure about an automatic converter but simply printing to a file does in most cases), locate the relevant bits and replace them in postscript (you'll need the Postscript book) then ps2pdf the remainder back again. If this is for a large commercial job though there are some packages already written that do this sort of thing. I think Tower Software has some back-end packages for $$ as it's part of their main line of business. Google is probably the best bet in this case. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hartono, Susanto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2002 13:36 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [SLUG] How to append a PDF file into another PDF file Hi Slug, Is it possible to append the content of one pdf file into another without using the commercial version of Adobe Acrobat? I am trying to insert the content of one pdf file into a particular section of another. For example if A has multiple headings as shown below, how do I insert the content of B immediately after Appendix 1 - without affecting the overall content? I'd like to script this if possible as there are quite a number of pdf files that have to be done. [ File A ] Heading 1 Content Heading 2 Content Appendix 1 Insert content from B Appendix 2 Content Thanks, --SH -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] hello
Leave the virus-trolls alone! There's another 'doze virus going round that emails rubbish apparently from people in an infected machine's mailbox. In this case neither the apparent sendor nor the receiver necessarily has a virus. Enjoy ;) -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 13:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] hello that the crap is this guy talking about? this guy obviously has no idea what the slug list is all aboot. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux on Sun equipment
As many of you will have already read elsewhere, there is some effort apparently being done by Sun to port some features of Solaris to Linux, in particular thread handling. Also some comments about Cobalt (intel) developments: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-912666.html One funny line: In a dramatic departure in February, though, the company embraced Linux as well, with Chief Executive Scott McNealy dressing as Tux Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Systems Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Can't change user passwords - NIS
Did you remember to rebuild yp? I haven't run NIS on Linux... but on Solaris you do this to propagate the tables to the clients: cd /var/yp /usr/ccs/bin/make This babbles a bit, and the default is to make all the tables. You can make specific tables if you want, but for starters just make them all (the default). For Linux, you would cd to wherever yp was kept, then make (to just make, say, the hosts table, you make hosts ) And that should be done every time you change something, eg add a user from the master. I notice that if you change a user's password from one of the yp slaves, using passwd, then it automatically propagates. If you change on the master using an editor, it won't propagate and you need to run make again from the yp directory. (Also obligatory warning about NOT using yp / NIS on a system connected to the internet; it is far too trusting about other hosts!) Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Nicholas Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 8:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Can't change user passwords - NIS Hi all, Redhat 7.1 , KDE, NIS When I create new users or change existing users passwords on the server this does not propagate to the workstations. The password remains as the old password. It does not seem to matter if I change the password on the workstation or the server. I have been using the KDE user manager on the server and the KDE Change Password utility on the workstations. The system is using NIS with NFS /home directory shared from the server. Also, creating new users on the server machine does not work either (they are created but they cannot log in - I have had to set up all users when I install the system). I have not done anything weird to the system - I have put the line +:: in the users file on the workstations and +::: in the groups file. This seems a wierd problem for such core functionality of the system. Regards, Nick Reese -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Sync of filesystem on multiple SCSI hosts
Weird, man. Why not re-arrange it like this: _ | | | NAS storage | |_| | | ethernet __|__ | | | hub | |_| ||___ || |ethernet| ethernet |_ _| | || | | Server A || Server B | |__||__| NASs (look in the Harris Tech catalogue) http://www.ht.com.au might not be as fast as direct SCSI connection but they do allow NFS connections and, well, NFS is a bit like magic. Both machines would be able to see the mounted partition provided it was mounted as NFS. Warning: some of the NASs run Windoze; avoid if you are using it with an all-Linux system as you are only paying for a license you don't need (blablabla). Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wienand Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2002 11:07 To: 'Grant Parnell' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] Sync of filesystem on multiple SCSI hosts firstly what file system are you using? i can't see this working with any standard non distributed file system. i've never seen anything like this -- two pc's essentially using a single disk. but everything makes me think that this would not be a good solution as i can't think of any file system that was developed to be used like this. the problem is one of abstraction; the scsi bus handles putting blocks onto the disk, and that is all. the os filesystem functions organise those blocks into an entity that is file system. a user space protocol and daemons such as NFS can handle multiple accesses and sort them out for handing down the chain. i can't see how this setup can guarantee normal unix semantics ; i.e. a read after write returns the value just written and two writes returns the latest write. if this fails, then so does everything built ontop of it. why you can't see updates i don't know, but i think that would only be a symptom of a larger problem. for what it's worth, i can't see this working without some sort of distributed file system, e.g. nfs or samba. failing that, you would have to write your own file system that implements some sort of session semantics, immutable files or atomic transactions or some other scheme you think of yourself. sounds like fun but probably not the easiest way to solve the problem. i'm happy to be corrected on any of the above points, however. -i -Original Message- From: Grant Parnell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Sync of filesystem on multiple SCSI hosts I have a client with the following setup: __ | | | Firewire storage | |__| || || |_ _| | || | | Server A || Server B | |__||__| This is not an NFS mount, the box has multiple SCSI buses. Both Server A and Server B mount the same filesystem and my client says that when files are written by Server A the only way they can be seen on Server B is to unmount the filesystem and re-mount it. I did suggest using the sync option when mounting the filesystems and also trying the sync command but this didn't help. Effectively we need to lose the linux filesystem buffers (and yes, all the efficiency that goes with that) I think but I don't know how to do that. Possibly this could be done periodically on each server to allow some level of filesystem efficiency but I'm guessing this would be more trouble. If this isn't easy I'm going to have to suggest NFS... wonder if you can do NFS over SCSI? I've heard of TCP/IP over SCSI I think. I do not know if the Servers can see each other on the SCSI buses, certainly not visible in /proc/scsi areas so my guess is no. -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - senior consultant For all your Linux Commercial quality support and consulting needs Web: http://www.linuxhelp.com.au Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For retail sales see http://www.everythinglinux.com.au Phone 02 8753 0792 to book service. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug ** CAUTION: This message may contain confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use or disclosure of this message is prohibited. If you received this message in error
RE: [SLUG] Help with fdisk please
And of course these limits only apply to x86 architecture, not to DEC Alphas, Suns, other things. They probably won't apply to ia64 either. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 11:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Help with fdisk please From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt: ... For Linux/i386, partitions 1-4 are the primary partitions, and 5 and above are logical partitions. Other versions of Linux use partitioning schemes appropriate to their respective architectures. ... 8 block SCSI disk devices (0-15) 0 = /dev/sda First SCSI disk whole disk 16 = /dev/sdb Second SCSI disk whole disk 32 = /dev/sdc Third SCSI disk whole disk ... 240 = /dev/sdp Sixteenth SCSI disk whole disk Partitions are handled in the same way as for IDE disks (see major number 3) except that the limit on partitions is 15. So the kernel supports up to 63 partitions on an IDE drive, and 15 on a SCSI drive. Cheers, John -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Help with fdisk please
AFAIK it's a hardware limit with the x86 MoBo designs - Jill -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Peter Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 12:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Help with fdisk please ... I know that the SCSI limitation was mainly due to, er.. poor design of the SCSI system in 2.2. (part of the reason behind The Great SCSI Rewrite of 2.4) I don't know how close this is to being rectified, though. But is the IDE limitation in the kernel, or a hardware limit? -- Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Redhat 7.2 and fsck
Your machine has a hardware fault. Fix that up first then worry about the software afterwards. You'll have to go ferretting with a diagnostic disk to find the problem, or take it to a computer shop. Sounds like a dead MoBo. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Karl Bowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2002 6:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Redhat 7.2 and fsck I had my redhat machine crash on me last nite. And now when I boot it tells me that fsck.ext3 has exited with and error level of 7. I can run fsck.ext3, fsck.ext2, and e2fsck, and the all give me the message Bus Error. I then popped in the redhat 7.2 cd and booted the rescue image. In the rescue image it fsck'd all the partitions with no prob, but upon reboot it still gives the same message. What's wrong? Regards, Karl Bowden -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ftp client - MORE
Just use the full pathname and get a script to generate the list for you, eg
'find'.
But you need to know if the directory exists on the remote site.
Anyone know, assuming a shell is not available to the remote host, can you
test for the existance of a directory on an ftp site in order to make a
decision as to whether to make a directory or not?
Something like if [ -d ] dirname ; then do something ; fi
but using ftp as the only available protocol?
(Actually come to think of it you could possibly use http to first test for
this directory's existence if the ultimate aim was to update your website).
Regards,
Jill.
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-Original Message-
From: Bernhard Lüder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2002 22:07
To: Peter Hardy; SLUG user group
Subject: [SLUG] ftp client - MORE
Ok, that works for known files, but what if I have to upload new directories
folders with files in them?
Is there a recursive feature in ftp?
Bernhard
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Peter Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2002 19:33
To: SLUG user group
Subject: Re: [SLUG] ftp client
On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 18:50, Bernhard Lüder wrote:
Can I use the native RedHat ftp client to automate this task?
How do I get it to log in as a user, then transfer files and the log out
after?
It's fairly easy to use ftp in shell scripts. I used to use the
following to upload webcam images to the webserver.
uploadpic() {
ftp -v -i -n $host EOF
user $ftpuser $ftppasswd
binary
put $localfilename $remotefilename
bye
EOF
}
HTH,
--
Peter
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RE: [SLUG] Strange shutdown -h now behaviour
That reminds me of the stopped firewall project (freshmeat I think). Anyway, it sounds like you are missing some Knn simlinks in the shutdown sequence. Possibly what is happening is you are still running the network process(es). Just check that there is a Knn for each Snn (and that it does do something). As init will still be running if there is a process running, you will still have interrupts and a scheduler running. If it's X86 architecture you might also have a look at the power management (BIOS) settings and check that it can be shut down that way. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 1 March 2002 9:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Strange shutdown -h now behaviour Hi all, We just noticed rather strange behaviour on one of our RAS servers after a remote shutdown. (slackware 8.0 + 2.4.17) shutdown -h now as root from an ssh session resulted in the usual messages both to the session and console however we observed the following:- 1. The machine remained visible on the network and responded to pings so some of our monitoring systems such as WhatsUp would presumably still show it as healthy. 2. Console switching was possible but key input was ignored. 3. Messages from debug/messages were output to the console. 4. The machine continued to accept calls from ISDN but was unable to process them. Given the RAS hardware in this machine this indicated that the Kernel module was still processing interrupts correctly. I guess halted isn't *really* halted in the CPU halted sense ?? We will set up APM so it will in future do a power down and this wont be an issue but it was certainly unexpected (and unpleasant) behaviour for a Linux based RAS/router. Cheers -Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux
If you are going to use the X86 platform, do not use Solaris. It is far too slow on that platform and you will be disappointed. OTOH if you want to use the SPARC platform, you have a choice of Linux or Solaris. I'd go for Solaris if it was SPARC platform, but then I'm biased. If I was asked to implement the project though, I'd probably select Linux on X86 because what you are asking for does not require a high end machine. Go for something with a manufacturer who keeps replacement parts in case of breakdown, rather than a one-off with a weird CPU socket or RAM that no one keeps. Someone at work bought an SGI X86 running Linux because they wanted a reliable box. You can also look at Dell or IBM if you want a support contract. The Sun hardware is generally more reliable than the average intel hardware but again you get what you pay for. (When I was working at digital there were different prices for computers depending on how much heatsoak testing the customer was prepared to pay for.) We use SPARC-64 boxen at work running Solaris 7 for engineering simulations. We also have a Linux box (1.2 GHz pentium) that simulates faster for one engineer. The difference I have noticed is on simulations (Modelsim), the SPARC boxen runs pretty much the same speed irrespective of how many engineers are on it, whereas the Intel unit is fast for only one user. With two users it bogs down completely and is slower than the SPARC. That I presume is showing up the lack of SMP ability on the Intel. For Web apps it really doesn't matter. And in both cases you can create farms and failover configurations. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] To kludge or not to kludge
Oh I just remembered I had something similar to this. I'm using KDE 2 at home, and Mike ran the KDE manager remotely once, which totally stuffed up my ability to run X from the console. Turned out to be a temporary file created by KDE and its X services in /tmp Go have a look in /tmp without X running by anyone (including console) and get rid of any .X* or whatever session files. (hehehe an opportunity to get rid of Netscape rubbish too!) You can always run fuser on them to see if they are still used by anything. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jamie Wilkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2002 0:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] To kludge or not to kludge This one time, at band camp, Nick Croft wrote: I'm thinking of tarring up the account, Star Office and all, applying userdel to it and starting again, untarring the works into the new synonymous account. Is that not a huge kludge? If the problem is a setting in some rcfile, and you untar your rcfiles back into the new account, then that won't solve your problem. Is there a more elegant way of restoring X-window to this account? Can I copy a profile of some sort from the other accounts that are able to start X? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Shocking Service
Usually you only get shocking service if you are a big mob. If you are (say) a table of two or three you often get priority service. That's why McDonalds was so popular - you get instant service (no comment on the product). Also, one of the other problems we had looking for alternate places was the time. Most places don't stay open that late for meals, even on Friday nights. We tried one place (good service, high prices - the Marigold I think) and they wanted us to eat up quickly because they wanted to shut the place and go home. The House of Guang Chow (whatever - sp) appears to be a family company, prepared to work back later. Possibly the reason why they didn't have what you wanted was maybe whoever placed the booking did not specify what was wanted. Someone mentioned water at Adelaide - I'd never order tap water in Adelaide. It's the last pump-out from the Murray River after all the other towns have done their thing in it for about 1500 km. You really want bottled water there. OTOH Melbourne tap water is excellent, you could probably top up your car battery with it (comes from Eildon Reservoir amongst others). -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] cant telnet
After adduser or useradd you need to set the password for the user (unless -p was used). passwd henry This will prompt for henry's password. Until this is set, user henry cannot login. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 18:47, henry wrote: Dear Sirs: By adduser,passwd, I see my ID in /etc/passwd . Then I modified /etc/login.access by adding + : henry :ALL But I just cant telnet from outside,Could someone give some hint ? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] trashing
Just put Netscape on it and give it to a kid! -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2002 18:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] trashing Hi y'all, Anyone know any good software to test stability on a new machine? -- -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] tar /proc
Whilst on the subject of what not to do, it's almost as much fun as removing /dev/fd from a solaris system only to discover that it's not the floppy disk but the file descriptors for stout, stderr, and so on, as in 21 Henry, when backing up a root filesystem, in general it is best to avoid backing up the following: dev (other people may disagree but you can always restore these from the CDROM) lost+found mnt net proc tmp (should not contain anything worthwhile) There are some files in /var which may be in use at the time, so if you had to restore them the results may be not quite like what you expect. man fuser Regards, Jill -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 18 February 2002 12:41 To: henry Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] tar /proc quote who=henry I cant tar zcvf /proc.tgz /proc , I always get msg like exit by previous error . just behind this line tar /proc/exe . I want to backup /proc for minimizing my slackware , how could I bypass of the error ? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] PDF, ghostscript and printing.
Your friend has possibly sent it in Acrobat 5 which is not supported by *ix because Acrobat haven't ported it yet. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Terry Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2002 14:37 To: Slug List Subject: [SLUG] PDF, ghostscript and printing. I need to be able to receive PDFs from that other OS and print them here First problem is that pdf2ps errors out. Does this mean that the supplied pdf is faulty (e.g non-standard, etc, perhaps I don't have the fonts it uses). -- -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Suse disk thrashing
Now I haven't heard of that one before but possibly Reiserfs was designed with more modern hardware in mind. If the disk controller cache is very small, then all the Reiserfs fidgetting will be translated to hardware activity (thrashing). More modern controllers have a fairly big buffer in the disk controller which would help to iron out this activity. I'd suggest to go back to EXT2 on older hardware. It's quick and reliable and you just have to put up with the fsck upon startup. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 0:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Suse disk thrashing I've just done a new Suse install on an old HP 266 and just for fun selected ReiserFS. All went perfectly well except the disks thrash like crazy and it seems to take ages to do anything much. Starting YaST took almost a minute. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Proposed joint trainning between TRIComm CBNSW
I think the pricing structure, as such, sounds fine. IMHO the full fee should be payable by people expecting to gain an income from the course, with the discounts as described depending on their circumstances. If the course is too cheap, businesses will not attend as they will not send their staff on a course if they don't think it's worth anything. As to the absolute prices, I think it might be a tad too high. Just going by the prices charged by a certain well-known international computer company, I think $250 per day + GST might be closer to the mark. However their courses are paced carefully so you would typically take 2 or three days to learn the ropes. You get lunch, morning, afternoon tea and course notes. You get a lecturer who makes sure you understand what you are doing. They also set pre-requisites and discourage people who don't have the basics for the course considered, by suggesting that they sit through the pre-requisite course. As to mixed classes of high payers vs low payers, that's not an issue. People who need this information for their business can frequently claim it against their training budget or their following year's income tax. In any class you always have attendees who are paying their own way or are subsidised by the government or their employer, or won it in a contest or whatever. No-one asks in class who paid for your course. It's just not professional to do so. The price is between the attendee and the trainers only. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] A quota question
My understanding of quotas is that, yes, you can do this, however the better way to do it is just to have 0 in those special users' quota entries. That way you can back them up and so on but they won't be included in the quota calculations. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2001 6:33 To: Mail List - SLUG Subject: [SLUG] A quota question If I put /var/spool/mail on its own partition in order to impose user quotas on the the bulk of INBOXs, can I override those quotas for selected power users by symlink'ng their INBOX to somewhere else that is not quota controlled, or is the quota still enforced: ln -s /var/spool/mail/poweruser /some/where/else -- -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Solaris OS
On which filesystem? Were you using Linux EXT3 ..? One thing I'd like to try BTW is the new (to Solaris 8) snap feature for backup of a live UFS. I'm not sure that anyone has attempted to emulate that sort of thing yet on a journalling Linux filesystem. Basically it uses the journalling features of UFS to keep two effective journals running at once (or so I'm told), and the snap mount can just be deleted when you are finished with it. Though it apparently makes the system run slower when you are doing things. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Craige McWhirter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2001 0:50 To: SLUG Subject: RE: [SLUG] Solaris OS ... It has been my experience and YMMV but Solaris is not too great a file server, on SPARC hardware when compared to Linux on SPARC hardware. Solaris is an excellent high-end application / database server but is well out performed at the file sharing level. My assumption on the performance difference I've found is simply that Linux kernels are more tuned to file sharing at a workgroup / enterprise level than the Solaris kernel is. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Solaris OS
I prefer Linux for the desktop / personal workspace and prefer Solaris for the remote fileserver area. I particularly like the Sun hardware and its scalability, eg with several engineers running circuit/VHDL simulators and PCB layouts at the same time on the same server (or group of NFS-linked servers). What I see at the moment is Linux seems to be doing well on the desktop to medium server area (eg up to ISP/Web host level) whereas Solaris (or SunOS, for the Sun heads) seems to be better for the medium to high end such as the larger financial centres. Here they bet on the system reliability and hot swappability to achieve 24x7, whereas on a low end system you don't mind the occasional hardware outage such as a duff disk, so you duplicate the hardware instead. It's this high end that Linux isn't really there yet, however there are certainly a few people prepared to give it a go. The main holdups to Linux appear to be access to the high end hardware (the average J. Hacker doesn't have a spare Sunfire kicking around). The IBM thousand-odd Linuxes on a mainframe is a large collection of small systems rather than one large system (from the application point of view). Regards, Jill -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rachel Polanskis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Scott Howard wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:04:20PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Interested in Solaris, seems it's Suns Unix based OS, interested in opinions, usefullinks etc. It's kinda like Linux, only suits choose it first, and it's proprietary. It Complete uninformed mindless drivel! In what way is Solaris proprietary? Right on! Scott (Who chooses Solaris first in many cases, and doesnt (normally) wear a suit...) rachel (ditto) -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Memory upgrade
Looks like the BIOS didn't recognise the memory speed. I'd go into BIOS setup and check that it is reporting what you've put in, and hasn't downgraded it to something slower. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] command line argument
You might have been thinking of ./a.out file1 file2 Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Antony Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 22:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] command line argument In my Uni notes I have this as a command line argument; file1 | a.out file2 Obviously file1 should pipe to a.out and a.out output should be sent to file2. When running this command file1 is obviously not a valid command. Should this work on linux or unix. Antony -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Question for a friend
He might be better off leaving it as a Linux-only system and running his app under Wine? -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 11:49 To: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Question for a friend On 2 Nov, Jon Biddell wrote: I've had this problem when trying to dual-boot a WinME system (word of warning - DON'T DO IT ! It involves swearing, blood and LOTSA agro !!). -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Shell scripting challenge (or not)
fred=`cat mytextfile`
for i in $fred ; do
find . -name $i -print -exec rm {} \;
done
There are probably lots more ways to do it.
You need to be aware though that if the file occurs more than once, both
will be removed.
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 17:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Shell scripting challenge (or not)
Hi all,
I was interested to hear your thoughts on solving a practical
problem I
have, while using only shell tools.. that is, not using Perl or Python
or what have you.
So, I have a list of random filenames in a text file:
thing.mp3
pants.txt
yer.rtf
others.html
These files do exist on my system, except they're scattered
throughout a
directory tree hierachy, and there's no path info in my text
file to say
where.
I need to find the given files in the tree, then do stuff
with them. For
instance, delete them.
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RE: [SLUG] Big file uploads through a web pages
What's wrong with FTP? That's why it was created... The problem with using a server-side script is (as was discussed last Friday night), timeouts. And if you don't timeout then your sever could get very bogged down. BTW FTP times out by default around 15 minutes and can be set to whatever you like (in.ftpd -t timeout) Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Cronan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2001 15:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Big file uploads through a web pages Whats the biggest file someone has ever submitted though a web page more specifically using php4 I'm looking to upload files through an intranet. sizes can range from 1mb up to 1.5 Gb and adverage at about 350Mb I'm obviously going to test this out for myself Just wandering what peoples experiences are with huge file uploads?? Thanks Steve -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Big file uploads through a web pages
I do something similar to that at work but it's a two step process. The user copies the file first to a specific area they are allowed to use, then they fill in the form which lets them select the uploaded file (and any other fields they need). You just have to make sure that they can't read/write outside of their sandbox. I also have a cron job that clears out the sandbox once a week. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Cronan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2001 16:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Big file uploads through a web pages I've had my doubts about it working sucessfully but basically they fill out a page with 20-30 fields and the data is associated with that file in the db I want to see if it can be achieved over a web interface -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] /etc/new-passwd creation
You might want to investigate using alternative name services like NIS (internal networks only) or LDAP (see SLUG talk) rather than dink round with the /etc files. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stuart Guthrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 11:36 To: slug Subject: [SLUG] /etc/new-passwd creation Checked man and google. Is there an obvious way to create a new passwd file (/etc/new-passwd) and add users/passwds to it instead of to /etc/passwd? I'm trying to implement a seperate passwd file to the normal passwd for my proftp. The command in proftp AuthUserFile is easy, setting up the new -passwd file is not obvious. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] cron running some scheduled jobs twice
Flat battery? -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 16:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] cron running some scheduled jobs twice Hi all, Anyone seen this? Sometimes cron (vixie-cron-3.0.1-61 RH 7.0) runs scheduled jobs twice, and sometimes even three times. This happens only two or three times a day, and only on one of the three machines I have running the same version of vixie-cron. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] cron running some scheduled jobs twice
Hi John, others, Depends on the hardware. I assume you mean a PC; in that case, usually. Depends on what the manufacturer thought of. The old 486 at home gets it from the battery, which is a rechargeable. Old apricots had this weird diode thingy ... On sun boxen, it always comes from the battery. So you know when to get a new one :) 1) Yes except at boot time. However I think there is a re-sync after a while on some hardware, especially if you are running a time server. That would be cron'd in (but you might have to check which service is running it? Might not be root...) 2) Yes however our old 486 does weird things so that might not always be the case. My Athlon seems to keep the clock stable once powered up. I seem to recall reading somewhere in man hwclock that you can periodically reset it in case of drift. 3) No. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 17:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] cron running some scheduled jobs twice On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 04:36:06PM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote: Flat battery? Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think that's relevant for several reasons: 1. The kernel maintains the system clock independently of the h/w clock. 2. The machine is always on, and as far as I understand, the h/w clock is only read on startup. 3. Isn't the h/w clock powered from the battery only when the machine is powered off? -- -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
FW: [SLUG] RE: openz.org (was: Aussie IT deficit hits $15bn)
Yes it is GPL'd - look at the top of the page on http://www.openz.org/ -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] XP launch
Now you have obviously never been to a Linux -based commercial product launch. The last one I went to had a very intelligent Q A session which followed a delicious strong coffee and pastry pigout served on china (Corel). Before that, another one I went to was somewhat elbow-deep in engineers (HP demo of Itanium; actually a hardware product demo). Another one I went to was showing off Linux again, this time it was SGI on prototype Itanium hardware. Filled an auditorium and was wowing people with visuals. I have no idea what IBM do at their Linux product launches but their demos at the show were pretty crowd-pulling just looking at the displays. As for kernel launches, well certain kernel hackers do tend to pull crowds at places like Atlanta! -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DJ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Looking forward to the Linux MS-Bashers running around in a jealous tantrum. Actually - coming to think of it - it would be fun to go to a Linux kernal launch snigger. It would be BYO cheese and Pecks Paste sandwhiches; Coke from plastic cups; cheezels and free penguin pocket protectors. Now THAT'S something to look forward to! DJ! -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] FW: Optus@Home running on Linux.
My understanding (from Rachel at the time) was they were running some very nice racked Netras; the only hassle was the Netras don't have removable media (Shock!) and have to be jumpstarted (Horror!). How hard is that? What on earth is the article going on about? Maybe the real truth is this: tall tale Maybe the Netras hadn't been paid for and had to be returned to wherever they came from and (Oh No!) now we have no servers. Ahh - there's all the beige boxen in the corner... lets put them in before the customers complain. Slowness? Response time? Just bame the backbone carrier and no-one will know any better. /tall tale Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 19 October 2001 12:58 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [SLUG] FW: Optus@Home running on Linux. On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: Optus@Home network severs final ties to Excite --- By BARRY PARK, FAIRFAX IT Thursday 18 October, 2001 15:52 GMT+10:00 URL:http://it.mycareer.com.au/breaking/2001/10/18/FFXDWFEGXSC.html Incredibly powerful Linux boxes? Linux boxes more powerful than the previous Sun boxes? Unless they were running Excite@home on Ultra5's, I find this seriously hard to believe! Marketing-speak wins again!! Rachel? Bueller? Bueller?? DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Compltetly OT -el Presidente, perfect pitch and boids
But Conrad may not have been talking about (musical) pitch, although one
would have thought so from the context.
He may have wanted perfect {black tarry substance used as caulking}
or perfect {roof slope} on his house
or perfect {big drop on side of cliff/cave/shaft}
or perfect {sales patter}
or perfect {ball throwing ability}
or perfect {way boat sits on water}
And you think computers can be taught to understand english?
Cheers,
Jill.
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RE: [SLUG] Why the different platforms
Read Peter Salus' A Quarter Century of Unix and come back again with another question. You may as well ask Why all the different cars, Holdens, Fords, Satrias,... And yes there are hardware advantages. I wouldn't want a Sun E10K on my lap and I wouldn't want to run the National Library off a Dell laptop. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Minh Van Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2001 13:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Why the different platforms Why all the platforms ? - AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, Alpha/Sparc/Sun. Is it a greedy vendor thing, or are there hardware advantages or something. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Document Management Systems
Apparently this is a marketing-FUD thing. I spoke with one of Tower's employees some time ago and they actually recommend that it run on a Unix of some sort, rather than NT. But their marketing Dept only say that it runs on NT because that's what the PHBs (customers) have been asking for. 'Course the customer's engineers know better, but the PHBs have the purse strings and the engineers don't! Who do you believe? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Susanto Hartono [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2001 12:28 To: Michael Still Cc: Richard Hayes; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Document Management Systems UTS uses TRIM pretty extensively to store document information (change of subject records, results etc). It's rather expensive and not very expandable. The last time I supported it, a dedicated NT server was needed (maybe it's changed since then). --SH On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Michael Still wrote: I wont advertise a commercial product here any more than to say that perhaps you should have a chat with TOWER software (http://www.towersoft.com.au), manufacturers of TRIM. Call 02 6282 4655 for details... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Document management systems
Possibly they are using Globetrotter for their license scheme. (lmgrd, flexlm and friends) eg http://www.globetrotter.com That system works on Linux (we use it here for some Mentor apps). IMHO it works better if you have one (eg solaris) server set up as the general license server, and use the floating license system rather than the nodelocked one. That way anyone on the LAN can check out a license on their PC (Linux or NT) without having to be expressly set in the license codes. Of course if you have to replace the license server, you have to buy (or negotiate) new licenses with the vendor. That's why people usually use a license host with high reliability hardware like a sparc rather than a PC. The license codes usually cost more than the hardware, so you don't want to be changing the hostid of the license server anytime soon. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2001 15:50 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [SLUG] Document management systems Fuji Xerox Australia is trying to get this released on Linux, the present versions don't run on Linux. They run on Windows IIS, or Sparc Solaris ... A demo version was given away on one of the latest computer magazines. It just requires a license code to be purchased to enable more than 50 documents to be viewed. This is proprietary and is based on three things the hostname of the server, the port no. of the web server and the web directory. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] redhat 7.1 firewall
why not wc * ? because not all things in that directory are regular files. wc seems to give strange stats with directories (Linux gives different answers to Solaris btw if the file is not a regular file). I tend to code boring but works on all platforms because I have at least 3 different unices to write stuff for! Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 17:15 To: 'Slug ([EMAIL PROTECTED])' Subject: Re: [SLUG] redhat 7.1 firewall On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 03:44:10PM +1000, Jill Rowling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: hehehe it had to be sendmail... $ cd /var/run $ for i in * ; do if [ -f $i ] ; then wc -l $i; fi; done hehehehe, why not: wc * it even gives you a nice total. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Hotplug and cached Disk writes
I was actually thinking of something similar, but for floppy disks. The trick I think is to _not_ mount the filesystem as a normal filesystem, but instead to mount it as something else. The device drivers for something else would be need to be aware of the device (if present) and respond sensibly if the device is not physically present. Of course some applications may fail miserably but that's their problem! The device driver would need to be treated I think something like a sound driver, where it doesn't make sense to cache the writes if the device's buffer requests more data (ie sound) (although I need to think about this aspect). For desktop use, some sort of indication as to the device's readiness may be useful (like the changing icons you can get with CDROM present / not present). For remote use, one would also need to know as to whether the device was present or not. Another thought - what about using the printer spooler (Er yuk, cancel that thought... NO operating system handles printing nicely!) Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Downing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2001 11:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Hotplug and cached Disk writes From the wouldn't it be cool if Department: Is it possible to tell the kernel NOT to cache disk writes to a certain mounted filesystem. Then if that mount suddenly dissappears, everything has been already written. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] redhat 7.1 firewall
As RedHat 7.1 comes installed, these services are generally disabled. You need to look in /etc/xinetd.d See each service (eg telnet) has its own file. If you remove the line in telnet disable = yes Find the process ID for xinetd ps -ef | grep xinetd then kill -USR1 pid_of_xinetd eg kill -USR1 676 Then it should work for you. You might want to revise your firewall rules if you are going to connect the machine directly to the internet with the telnet service enabled. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Xiaolu Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 14:35 To: 'Slug ([EMAIL PROTECTED])' Subject: [SLUG] redhat 7.1 firewall I install redhat 7.1 recently, but I could not disable the firewall. I can ping to it, but I can't telnet or ftp to it. Any idea ? xiaolu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] redhat 7.1 firewall
hehehe it had to be sendmail... $ cd /var/run $ for i in * ; do if [ -f $i ] ; then wc -l $i; fi; done 1 apmd.pid 1 atd.pid 1 crond.pid 0 ftp.pids-all 0 ftp.rips-all 1 gdm.pid wc: gpm.pid: Permission denied wc: klogd.pid: Permission denied 1 lpd.printer 1 runlevel.dir 2 sendmail.pid 1 sshd.pid wc: syslogd.pid: Permission denied 1 utmp 1 xfs.pid 0 xinetd.dump 1 xinetd.pid [rowling@rb-01120 run]$ cat sendmail.pid 717 /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q1h -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 15:39 To: 'Slug ([EMAIL PROTECTED])' Subject: Re: [SLUG] redhat 7.1 firewall On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 01:32:45PM +0800, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: For services started by Red Hat's start up scripts, there is an easier way than this. The file /var/run/xinetd.pid will contain the appropriate process id. So kill -USR1 $(cat /var/run/xinetd.pid) Use `head -1' instead of `cat'. At least one of these files contains more than just the pid, but the pid is always on the first line. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] 4x Displays under Linux X?
http://www.sgi.com/visualization/graphics_cluster/index.html -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Luke McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 16:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] 4x Displays under Linux X? Hey there, I have an inquiry. It does come from commercial interest in deploying linux from a customer of my work. Can you get 4 X-Windows hardware graphics displays running under Linux. I know double headed isn't that hard. As long as you choose a card that supports a kernel framebuffer you'll be ok? right? From the wealth of experience in Sydney Linux users group users, are they any reconmendations for high performance 2D graphics under Linux If you must know this is for a share trading set-up written in motif c++ ;-) Cheers, Luke __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Rescue operation.
Also if you boot from the install CDs these days, a root shell is available in ctrl-alt-F1 where you can usually mount the filesystems as something like /mnt/whatever (eg /mnt/etc ) and you might be able to fix things. The only catch is you have to remember where the utilities are, eg vi would be in this case /mnt/bin/vi I had to do that at home during an install (SuSE) because I had some experimental stuff in /etc/fstab which I fixed this way with /mnt/bin/vi /mnt/etc/fstab That's just an example. The red hat install CDs should give you a similar sort of option. The installation guide notes that the disk writing doesn't happen till later in the show after you have specified everything, so I wouldn't be concerned about it damaging your files unless you selected the OK at that stage. (security note: that is why on a modern PC, physical device security is the first step). Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 - followup
OK, that's fixed it now, thanks, TERM=xterm .. and testing on both remote Xterminal, local console, root user and normal user is all OK now. Indeed I was getting confused (as probably anyone who has tried to man X11)! Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ian Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 17:08 To: Jill Rowling; slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 - followup if [ ! $DISPLAY = :0 ] ; then stty erase ^H TERM=XTerm export TERM fi Your getting a little confused, the terminal type is xterm (lowercase) The program called xterm (which does xterm emultation ) looks at /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm for its defaults -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 - followup
Thanks, I have tried the files from a RH6.0 installation I still have (I never had 6.2 here at work so I can't try that one), also someone sent me another xterm file which I tried too. Neither were satisfactory, making me think that it's not the XTerm file which is causing the problem, rather than something wrong with the way terminfo is being used. BTW I said the problem was Solved by hacking around with the X server (PC) but this is only satisfactory for comman line work; it makes vi and emacs fail miserably. Here is stty -a (on RH7.1 machine via hummingbird xterminal): speed 38400 baud; rows 36; columns 80; line = 0; intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = undef; eol2 = undef; start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0; -parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts -ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0 isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke And here is is again (on Sun Solaris 7 machine with the same xterminal) speed 9600 baud; rows = 24 columns = 80; ypixels = 316 xpixels = 499 intr = ^c; quit = ^|; erase = ^h; kill = ^u; eof = ^d; eol = undef; eol2 = undef; swtch = undef; start = ^q; stop = ^s; susp = ^z; dsusp = ^y; rprnt = ^r; flush = ^o; werase = ^w; lnext = ^v; parenb -parodd cs8 -cstopb hupcl cread -clocal -loblk -parext -ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc ixon -ixany -ixoff -imaxbel isig icanon -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -tostop echoctl -echoprt echoke -defecho -flusho -pendin iexten opost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel Now ^h does in fact perform a backspace erase on both. But the backspace key only erases on the Sun and not on the Linux system. By the way, if I telnet to the Linux system, backspace/erase works fine. Any more ideas? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ian Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 17 September 2001 12:47 To: Ian Ward; Jill Rowling Cc: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 - followup OOPs, you have to go back to RH 6.2 I don't have the time or inclination to find out exactly what the differences are. - Original Message - From: Ian Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jill Rowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: slug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 - followup - Original Message - From: Ian Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jill Rowling [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Slug (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 -- solved! Hi Jill, some time ago we were both looking at why backspace was not functioning in rsh after RH7.1 upgrade Grab the following files from your RH 7.0 Backups ./usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm ./usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 - followup
Hi Ian sluggers, Thanks for the follow-up! OK the main thing is I had to REPLACE the XTerm file, rather than add a new one and refer to it (don't know why that didn't work though). So for future Red Hat 7.1 remote X fiddlers, here's what I had to do: 1) Replace the XTerm file in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults completely. I did this: cd /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults # mv XTerm XTerm.old ; cp /home/rowling/XTerm XTerm # chown root:root XTerm # chmod -w XTerm That last couple of steps was to fix up the file permissions so that they are the same as distributed. 2) Fix up .bashrc so that a different terminal type is chosen if the user is operating from a remote X terminal: The first 4 lines are the default .bashrc and the next 5 are picked up when the user is not on the console, ie is using a remote Xterminal. # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi if [ ! $DISPLAY = :0 ] ; then stty erase ^H TERM=XTerm export TERM fi 3) Log out of all my sessions. Log in again to pick up new environment. 4) Test it on both remote and local displays, with interactive bash commands as well as vi something and emacs something. Verify that backspace works correctly in all cases. 5) Apply it to all users, including root. 6) Test again, as per 4) with the root account both as su - root, su root and root logging in on console. I'm at stage 6 atm and everything works except for these messages on a remote Xterminal display (console is error-free): $ su - root Password: unknown terminal XTerm unknown terminal XTerm [root@rb-01120 /root]# logout 'XTerm': unknown terminal type. [rowling@rb-01120 rowling]$ (I get the same with su root) However it doesn't stop the root account from getting the appropriate backspace / erase on bash, vi or emacs, or running say xclock. I guess that's just an annoyance rather than a showstopper but it is curious. Cheers, Jill. (who has some happier users atm, thanks Ian) -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ian Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 9:03 To: Jill Rowling; slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Remote X login on RH 7.1 - followup My rsh command is : /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -ls -display $DISPLAY -title ian -geometry 140x50 Mine is similar, /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -ls -sb -bg LemonChiffon -title rb-01120 -display @d -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ipchains logging to console
Disk full? -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 September 2001 7:27 To: SLUG Mailing List Subject: [SLUG] ipchains logging to console ipchains on my gateway has suddenly taken to logging to the console. Has anyone any suggestions as to why, or how I can find out what is causing ipchains to do this? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] to C/H/S, or not to C/H/S?
I wonder if fdisk was just reporting the existing partition arrangements first? Although both drives were the same brand (I hope), possibly one was partitioned by the manufacturer or reseller beforehand. If it now works, I wouldn't worry about it. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 September 2001 7:48 To: SLUG Mailing List Subject: [SLUG] to C/H/S, or not to C/H/S? At this point I selected hda and set up the partitions I wanted, noting that the C/H/S was 2434/63/255 giving blocks of 16065*512 bytes. I then selected hdc but noticed that the C/H/S was different, being ?/63/16 (I think the ? was about 38792, but it is not important) giving blocks of 1008*512 bytes. I selected expert mode and altered the C/H/S to match the values of hda, and then created the partitions. All went OK after that. Questions 1.Is this a problem with fdisk, or is it a problem with the drives? 2.Would I have been better off to set hda to the finer granularity of hdc, or was I correct in using the coarser granularity that I did, or does it matter? 3.WTFG? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Samba hooks in Perl?
I'd strongly suggest making it web-only, without the SMB side. Reason being, no doubt at some time in the future the powers that be will want to link it into their office in another country, and SMB will be pretty slow (even on a VPN). Also if it is web based it means you won't have to support the end users' PCs anywhere near as much. Your IT Dept will love you for it as they won't have to worry about setting file permissions for new users/groups/blah. Even NT admins admit that SMB/CIFS is slow and bulky! I use smbclient in an application (actually in sh, rather than PERL) but I use it like FTP. That is, I just get the files I need (using cron) and work on them with PERL on a local disk rather than through the temperamental SMB interface. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 23:05 To: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Samba hooks in Perl? Rev Simon Rumble wrote: So the way I'm thinking of doing it is to store everything in a database with appropriate metadata attached to each file. The files can be explored through a web interface or through a heirarchical file system structure. To do this I need to be able to export it through Samba. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] hot swap IDE HDD
All the references I have read on the (relatively) cheap removable drive bays for IDE drives say to power down first. It's mainly designed for shops' cash registers and places that have the transactions stored on a secondary disk drive, rather than for any hot swapping reason. Another example I have read is where the person was testing different operating systems on different PCs and just happened to have these trays available for the boot disk. Again, it wasn't hot swappable. No doubt one could make something that was hot swappable but I don't think it would be exactly cheap. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: eurk-dsl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 18:03 Can you hot swap IDE HDDs under linux? I've read contradictory postings. Is anyone doing it without frying motherboards or Hard Drives? BTW I'm not talking IDE RAID, just utilising removeable drive bays as -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] FTP transfer
I do something similar with .netrc (without the last 2 parameters though). I create the ftp script (/tmp/myscript$$) on the fly, then /bin/ftp remotemachine /tmp/myscript$$ and I don't remove /tmp/myscript$$ until ps (in the calling script which is run by cron) shows that the ftp process has finished. As this runs in a cron job I have output redirected in the crontab, no need to do it in the script if you are prepared to check your mail. One other thing you might want to do is put full paths for everything as your cron environment might not be the same as your normal login environment, so the paths for executables might be different. (/bin/ftp is the path for old Solaris 2.5.1, just put in the correct path for your installation) There are probably lots more ways to do it, but I think the environment is the difference in your case. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alister Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2001 9:45 To: Slug Subject: [SLUG] FTP transfer I am trying to set up an automatic FTP transfer each night. I am using the .netrc config file and for testing the contents are (names machine 123.123.123.123 login loginname password mum macdef init -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] alternative file systems
I've been thinking along similar lines. Boot partition is ext2 and very small; Most of the remainder is Reiserfs (yep, fantastic speedy bootups). Because of Reiser's peculiarities with NFS I was wondering if I could put XFS on a spare partition that I have and use that for the NFS sharing? Anyone had any experience running Reiser and XFS on the same machine (different partitions of course). Oh, FWIW SCSI, SuSE, Athlon. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, cpaul wrote: when i get my new hard disk, i think i'd like to try an alternative file system than ext2. i hear a lot of good things about reiserfs. does anyone -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group
As distinct from the GNU/HURD Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Trevor Gunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2001 17:38 To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group - Original Message - From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:22 AM Subject: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group Would you like to help the GNU Project by asking the people at the Sydney Linux User Group to call the system GNU/Linux, not just Linux? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] A weird one with Star Office
I can't remember but I think there is a selection somewhere that reverts everything to as installed. That's probably what you want. Regards Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 18 June 2001 9:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] A weird one with Star Office I was messing about with Star Office earlier, specifically moving the buttons around on the status bar at the bottom so as to get -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] print to pdf
hehehe looks like we're all doing it. The only difference is I have done something similar for various different old CAD formats which don't know how to create proper postscript files. Sometimes I have to stick a 90 rotate something somthing translate in here and there but mostly it works nicely. It's particularly wild when teamed up with php or PERL web thingy that calls the appropriate translator I put round the filename to get round those spaces that M$ programs seem to like generating. BTW my PERL / web thingy has to be fairly paranoid about filenames it is given, so as to avoid things like a filename called: myfile;cat /etc/passwd (or worse) which most well behaved ? M$ programs can't generate but someone else might. Keep in mind many people run smbd / nmbd as root so just be careful with those passed filenames. Fun though. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: chesty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2001 17:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] print to pdf -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Whats the go with this list ?
hehehe it's PMT. Lists get it every time there's a long weekend coming up. - Jill -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Matt Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 8 June 2001 12:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Whats the go with this list ? Hey all, Im guessing the ratio of men to women on this list is like 95:5 at best, but is it just me or have we all got a bad case of PMS ? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Task bar under KDE
I thought that was a SuSE strangeness... Try moving the mouse slowly over another window edge to attract its attention, then go to where the task bar should pop out of. Other than that, try the right mouse menu. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Terry Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001 19:41 To: Slug List Subject: [SLUG] Task bar under KDE Umm, does anyone know how to get the taskbar in KDE back? Rather, is their a keyboard way to invoke it? I'm not actually sure it has gone, just not answering the mouse-near-edge for it to pop up. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Crazy Book Review Action!
Free Software Experience Well my favourite Free Software Experience would have to be SAMBA+PERL+PHP+Apache. These have saved my bacon so many times I can't count. The set was installed at work by a wandering minstrel (read: helpful contractor) in an otherwise completely Windows shop. I have upgraded the set and expanded it on our Unix servers; the upgraded SAMBA was a cinch to install and very easy to configure (provided you have SWAT going); PERL has given me an excellent development platform to hack around in; PHP has given me quick fixes that would be otherwise painful; Apache has now enabled us to publish the outputs from our department thereby saving an awful lot of walking round the different factory plants. The software suite has enabled me to administer filesystems in an unbelievably heterogenous environment; Windows users don't complain any more and that suits me fine! And if things don't work? Ah, I can read the source, can't I ! Oh book preference: Red Hat Certified Engineer Linux Study Guide So maybe I will remember where RH (Linux) puts things as distinct from Sun (Solaris) or SGI (IRIX). Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 15:54 To: Penguinillas Subject: [SLUG] Crazy Book Review Action! SLUG Book Review Madness Calling all literary (and illiterary) SLUGgers: McGraw-Hill Publishers have been kind enough to send us some more books for review! They know who to come to for the REAL DEAL... the LONG and SHORT... and McGraw-Hill knows who WEARS the PANTS. That's why they came to SLUG. Up for review are... * Linux - The Complete Reference (4th Ed): Covers RH7, Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4 (winner of dumbarse distro name award three years running) and SuSE 7.0 * Linux for Windows Addicts: A 12-Step Program for Habitual Windows Users * Linux Programming, A Beginner's Guide: Bash, TCSH, Perl, Tcl/Tk, GAWK, GNOME, KDE... * Red Hat Certified Engineer Linux Study Guide: You might want to review this if you're going for an RHCE soon. :) Please email back to the list with: - Your favourite Linux or Free Software related quote. OR - Your favourite early Free Software experience (a good one for newbies). You should also include the title of the book you want to review. The judge's decision will be final, and any sucking up will be taken into account in a completely unfair manner. - Jeff -- 2.4.1ac17 is full of innovations and should be used with caution. - Linux Weekly News -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Project Management software
Some folks use Artemis. It's a bloated thick client, oracle based, that runs on NT and probably other things. Managers seem to be able to use it. Lotus has something too, and that prolly runs on Linux. The freeware stuff isn't quite up to hardware engineering project management although for software project management I think there are some potentially nice things being developed... there are a few little ones on freshmeat. I think Umar had some comments about large-ish project management s/w - check last year's archive maybe. Wasn't Linux based though. We are also looking at "Product Data Management" S/W. Again, haven't seen anything for Linux. Some of the more decent ones run on big iron though. I look at the offerings and see if the s/w is extensible, able to grow with the company, supportable without having to hire a team of programmers, what are the annual license fees, rock solid db backend, runs on various platforms, web front end, who can get you out of a bind if it breaks, bla bla bla. M$ doesn't even cut it. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] one of our people just came to me asking me about "Project Management Software" and my immediate reaction was a "?" and "oh no Microsoft" -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Is there a bot-abuse list?
There's also the bot-trap where the ignorant bot wanders at its peril into a series of server-side scripts with no way back. It was discussed in "Sys Admin" magazine a couple of months back. ... look on google. It was mainly to stop spambots from gathering emails. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Rubbish may follow... -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Faulty PortScan
That does not look good to me at all. I thought Trinoo was similar to Steckeldracht (sp? == Barbed Wire) and all reports, binaries, programs and so on from a Trinoo'd machine should be considered untrustworthy. I'd re-install the os. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brett Esra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... 20432/tcp openunknown 27665/tcp openTrinoo_Master -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Multiple graphical logins
Yes, they sure do in Suse 6.4. Runlevel 3 is with an X login. I set mine to runlevel 2, and do the non-graphical login / startx as appropriate. Actually one of the sluggers gets his kids to login and startx themselves so that their siblings don't re-arrange each others' desktops... now who was that? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quote who="Ken Caldwell" Does anyone know how to do multiple graphical logins under SuSE 6.4? (ie run kdm on virtual terminals 7 and 8) They don't use inittab for kicking off X, do they? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Reiser FS
My understanding is that ReiserFS is no good for the boot partition, but should be OK for everything else under / And probably still does strange things with NFS (I gotta upgrade mine yet) - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?
And smbstatus says?? Also look out for local WINS and DNS 'doze boxen that tend to hand around forever. If you have configured your SAMBA as an NT server (not workstation) you will also get pestered by 'doze boxen. netstat -a should show their real connections, if they exist. If they don't exist, try killing the offending procs and hope they don't hang around again! :) Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] why does a ps on my machine show these 2 nmbd process that have been running since 1 March? root 1776 0.0 0.9 2240 1236 ?SMar01 0:01 nmbd -a root 1777 0.0 0.7 2160 944 ?SMar01 0:00 nmbd -a nmbd and smbd are run from inetd, not as standalone processes -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Indeed, most of the calls I get from users stems from their lack of training with 'doze. They use M$ all day on their desktops but do not understand how to do more than the average daily task. It is a complete fallacy to assume that users will find Linux or M$ more or less difficult to use than any other OS. Without training, the average user is fairly lost. The other fallacy is to assume that all M$ offerings have the same user interface. They don't. They may as well be running on different OSs. Back to the topic: We should not be pushing for a special Linux interface for BAS lodgement (that will only scare them); instead we should be pushing for a STANDARD html interface for BAS lodgement that does not rely on proprietary extensions that cause browsers to crash etc. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] True everything does have its place, but in my daily dealings with lusers they're typically a lazy/busy lot, troubled with driving the software and its bugs, with no regard for the OS at all. The only reason i can see for keeping M$ in these environments, is "that's what the staff are comfortable with". A situation that may soon change? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Weird CDROM behaviour under Linux only
hehehe maybe that's why M$ CDROM drivers make such great toasters! Ignore all interrupts, they are only there to annoy the programmer! Why on earth would hardware engineers put interrupts in... Oh, full buffer? I never would guess that a computer could get busy... (mumble mutter) - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Ken Yap wrote: - Note that many MS-DOS CDROM drivers will still function even if there are hardware problems with the interrupt setup; they apparently don't use interrupts. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] That somewhat theoretical problem.
'course in assembler, theyre all GOTOs: BRanch, JuMP, and so on. The exceptions are CALL and RETurn... Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ken: |On the other hand, I think I have encountered one of Schneider's rare |instances where you *have* to use a GOTO; if I'm right then it's |not all *that* rare. All programs with GOTOs can be converted to equivalent programs without GOTOs if you are allowed to use extra state flags. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] That somewhat theoretical problem.
Just to be difficult, what's the difference then between multiple exits and a (C) switch statement? Apart from the more elegant appearance of the case / switch, when you come out at the end you can't say for certain where you came from (other than what you were switching for!). And the assembler for it is identical to the test / jump (== GOTO). - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Raoul Golan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I guess it should be said here that there is an "unbreakable" golden rule in programming style which says multiple exit points in a function is a no-no and that there should only be one exit point at the end. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection
I think it was a small BASIC interpreter that ran in a ROM. Which brings us back to the title of the subject, of course... .vbs - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I cant think of 1 thing M$ have created by them selves.. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] SysV Scripts on Debian not Running
Make sure it's called S20ssh and not s20ssh ? and the services it needs are already running... (this reminds me of Richard Gooch's paper at http://linux.conf.au , "The new joy of init scripts"). - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Hi Dave, You really need to keep the fan going on a PC; without it you can cook things. This applies to any PC irrespective of what operating system it's running on. On more modern ones, sometimes the BIOS detects the temperature on the mobo / CPU and will not allow boot it the temperature is over a certain amount (whatever that is, varies from machine to machine). On the older ones, the video often karks it first. It puts out maybe 7W of heat and is not necessarily in the path of the fan. Also at high temperature (say over 35 deg C) the disk media change physical size compared to the head positioning hardware so the tracks ain't where they used to be. So if you write to it, you might not be able to read it again at a lower temperature. Other effects for pentiums might include executing the wrong instructions because the chip internal timing is also temperature dependent. Different parts of the instruction might arrive at the (say) ALU at different times or might be clocked into the wrong internal register because the setup times are violated. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 5 February 2001 10:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour Hi all, What happens when a PC CPU overheats? (it's a Cyrix/IBM P200) -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] weird PC behaviour
Dave said: ok, so is that permanently cook things? Yes, if you keep it going. At worst, you can lose smoke... Also you might want to check how much dust fluff there is. Acts like an electrically conductive blanket. You might want to vacuum it out if it's real gross. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card
CP/M = rotten non-re-entrant piece of code. At least Linux runs under Linux! -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 5 February 2001 16:21 To: Terry Collins Cc: Arunava Sen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Skywell MagicTV video capture card On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Terry Collins wrote: So why did I upgrade from CPM then? CP/M wasn't broke? Coulda bloody well fooled me! :-) DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Need help with XSession Colors
Yes, but if you diff the two rgb.txt are they the same? -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sonam Chauhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] The rgb.txt files on both side are pretty much identical -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] what version
Also, uname -a gives interesting info with various distros and unices. - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] what's the command to find out what version of linux you are running. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Segmentation Fault
Hehe (sorry) it reminds me of one of our PCs at home which had a memory fault whenever it got hot. 1: If I typed a command that was intrinsic to the shell, fine. 2: If I typed a command that had to go to disk, find the program and load it into memory, it segfaulted. If I repeated 2: it didn't segfault the second time; it seemed I had to rewrite the RAM a few times before it would stick. 3: It worked fine when it was cold. Memory testing (especially upper memory) may be in order... Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: George Ferizis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Executing "ps afx" will cause a segmentation fault. This will only occur if the machine is on for a while. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Need help with XSession Colors
If you are actually trying to view the colours on the AIX box, possibly: - the hardware does not have enough display memory, or - the hardware does not support the colours, or - the x11 file (maybe /usr/openwin/lib/X11/rgb.txt) does not have all the colours defined in it. If you are trying to view something generated by the AIX box, possibly the application is calling for IBM-specific colours (SGI does this, too) which are not specified in the Linux rgb.txt file. The X server is just approximating the colours. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sonam Chauhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I've had a display problem with an application running as XWindows session off a remote AIX box. The colors look terrible (like -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Re: Web browsing stupidity
One thing I noticed in Netscape Communicator, there seems to be no way of switching off the flashing cursor during composition. On other X applications (not Linux though) I noticed that if I switched off the flashing cursor (eg in nedit) the X server did not crash as often. In fact I proved it to myself once by deliberately switching On the cursor then iconising (or losing mouse focus); then after about an hour X crashed. I blame the netscape crashing problem to bad X handling. I sspect Netscape is doing something actively to X periodically even if it is iconised or does not have mouse focus (I mean Netscape browser, not just Netscape communicator). Maybe it's the starry icon thing. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Raoul Golan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] enterfornone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Netscape has never killed Linux bad enough to need a reboot but it has killed X and regualrly kills itself. I've seen netscape kill X too. Beats me how that could happen. Before this happens netscape hangs X, and when I go into a text console for a kill -9 on netscape, it dies and brings X down with it. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] VMWare and LILO configuration
Sorry - Just couldn't resist the misquote: ...not Our Raster, whose art is EVAS! - JR -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] The author calls himself Raster, but he's not the Rasterman. Does anyone know him? He's just "some random dude that speaks Spanish", not Our Raster. ;) -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Changing user id.
Use colon, not '.', ie
find /some/starting/directory -group 503 -user 503 \
-exec chown 690:750 {}\;
(hehe damn mailer wraparound!)
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Maybe something like:
find /some/starting/directory -group 503 -user 503 -exec
chown 690.750 {}
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RE: [SLUG] Changing user id.
chown -R newuser directory man chown Also as soon as you edit /etc/passwd the new user names will appear with a normal ls without you having to do anything else. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Marty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] anyone know of a utility that will alter the userid of files if i change the userid of their owner or group... -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] The origins of vmlinuz and mgetty
Well you've caught me out on that one. I figured that getty is just a get from a serial device but I didn't work out the "m" bit. Disclaimer: I have used modems a lot (even designed them) and Linux/Unix a lot but I don't use the two together much! TTY: Yes, teletype. I have used these beasts as the serial console in the dark ages. They were current loop interface, though, not RS-232. I think the name "tty" for the serial device stuck though as the Bell Labs people probably liked the TLA. Teletypewriter services are still offered by some organisations however you get a serial terminal / computer, not a clunky electromechanical teletype. I think if I were designing the interface from scratch, I might have called it /dev/ser rather than /dev/tty, but then I never worked for Bell. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I'd wager that Jill Rowling will have a good answer for that. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Re: Which Linux disto on a Sun Ultra 10 ?
Let's face it: Anything unfamiliar is a PITA to administer. Doesn't matter how well it's designed, if you don't know where things are you get frustrated. My main prob is going to work and using ESC for command line completion, then coming home and using TAB. Anyway, on a Sun server I prefer to use Solaris. On a PC I prefer to user Linux. On an O2 I prefer to use IRIX (even if I can't remember where it puts things!). Remember we are talking about OSs, not apps. If you want to use GNU apps, there's nothing stopping you from putting them on your favourite machine/OS. I also administer a Solaris 2.5.1 pizzabox and man, is it slow compared to the same hardware running Solaris 2.6. But I have no choice; the users' special apps are compiled for the older OS and the application docs are in Japanese! So I put up with it. That's a case of "if it were mine, I would upgrade the OS" (to either Linux or Solaris 8, depending on how crazy I felt and what it was networked with). - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] NFS Quota wierdness
I generally put a value in the grace section (sorry, another Unix, not Linux) but maybe all that's happening is because you don't have a value for the warning quota level (== grace), you are getting warnings for all file creates, not just those over quota. Just a thought. - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Kowalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sometimes, i get "quota for user: none" when there blantantly is, but this is just making me more worried: slinky:~# quota steven Disk quotas for user steven (uid 1000): Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace /dev/hda3 525420 60 807971 0 0 -- -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Sendmail woes
Don't you have to put all the users into the mail aliases file on each subsidiary machine? eg: freddy:freddy@vorlon alice:alice@vorlon (or whichever host you want them to go to) I have mine set up with config files set up as a subsidiary mailer for all hosts except for one which has its mail config file set up for "main", using the sample config files from sendmail.org (please note this is not Linux but I don't think it makes any difference). Regards, Jill (who is not a sendmail expert but is prepared to fiddle with it at times) -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Damien Gardner Jnr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have totally removed sendmail on both machines and reinstalled (dpkg --purge --force-depends sendmail rm -rf /etc/mail apt-get install sendmail), and yet they still try to deliver those domains locally, rather than giving a relaying denied message. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] smbmount woes
Just check that the share has create mode = 0775 No underscores in file names (this was a Win 95 gotcha) Suggest you test it with smbclient from the Linux side a bit more to see what errors are going to the 'doze side. SWAT might be useful too. Sorry I can't be more specific. Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rubbish may follow: -Original Message- From: Bernhard Lüder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Network authentication
Hi all, NIS is "nice" ie super easy to set up and use but really sadly broken in that any user can see what's in /etc/shadow. The only reason why you would want to use it is if you have to support some NIS-only clients like IRIX O2s AND you never have internet connections from the LAN. NIS+ (NISplus) is no-where near as broken but can be more tricky to set up. It uses kerberos. Anand gave a nice talk on his setup earlier this year - hey, Anand - is it still operational? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: James Wilkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] come back to bite me today, so I really want to do soemthing like NIS, only not NIS. -- Rubbish may follow: -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Linux news on slashdot
Hi all,
Well, I have tried installing packages on Linux
- Copying over tarballs,
- RPM through command line
- RPM through GUI (old version; broke often)
and on Solaris:
- Copying over tarballs,
- Installing through package manager
- Installing through self-extracting zips (YUK)
- Installing through a Java applet
and on Windows:
- Copying over zipfiles
- Installing through installshield rebooting
- Installing through a Java applet rebooting
I think my favourite for a general application (ie non-system stuff) would
have to be the Java applets. OK, they start off slowly but at least you can
see what they are going to do (use the source, Luke), they don't have to run
full screen and you can always go back and manually copy the stuff over if
you want to.
And they uninstall cleanly.
I think the full-screen installshield method beloved of 'doze apps sucks
majorly.
The major problem with tarballs/zipfiles is they don't end up in the package
managers' view of the world and uninstalling them can be a hassle.
One installation I played with (some Sun stuff) had the choice: You could
install using the command line package manager (pkgadd, a la apt-get), you
could install using the GUI admintool, or you could run the applet on the CD
which put up a pretty picture and gave you options in a GUI (running a java
applet).
Anyone installing Hummingbird Exceed on PCs will know about this style of
installation, too ('cept you have to reboot afterwards).
At least you get the choice!
As for old commercial software not being supported on Linux, well so what?
Those who need the software will continue to use it on legacy machines. I
don't see that commercial software running on Linux means that "all old
software we ever wrote will continue to be supported on all operating
systems". It was closed source stuff; that means if the company no longer
supports it, you can't have it. Try buying a brand new VK Commodore.
I think /. gets carried away with itself sometimes...
Cheers,
Jill.
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RE: [SLUG] IE, (Wu|Pro)Ftpd and symlinks
Just tried it here, simlinks work OK on IE 5.5 (NT) on a legit a/c or a correctly set up anonymous ftp machine. It may depend on the 'Doze platform. IE 5.5 comes with its own FTP (Hummingbird's I think, which is BSD) Cheers, Jill (At the risk of a beer suggestion!) (OK I'm NOT recommending IE!) -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ho Ming Shun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] access my linux box via ftp when I found that IE does not display symlinks. When I tried using Netscape, the symlinks were there and were followed wihout a problem. -- Rubbish may follow: -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Dinner after meeting...
I really must correct this... Jill ate ALL her pasta but could not eat Mike's 1/2 that he left. If the pizza was better than the pasta though I'd be willing to try the place again. At least we could all fit in. Any other suggestions? -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] No actually. I left 1/2 my pasta, so did Jill -- Rubbish follows: -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] NFS LOCKD
I had a similar problem on another Unix, where machine A was complaining about machine B. The problems were NOT resolved by rebooting machine B, but they all fixed themselves when I rebooted machine A. A case for shooting the messenger? ;) Cheers, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Marty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] anyone know of any solutions (or can point me at any resources) about NFS locking errors like: LOCKD: can not monitor IP Rubbish may follow: -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Problem with cat command
Hi there, You need to be running a kernel with largefile support, and all the file handlers need to be compiled for LARGEFILE. I thought kernels 2.3 and over should be able to handle it... What version Linux are you running? - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: GRAY Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have noticed cat does not seem to be able to handle an output file greater than 2 gb. -- Enforced corporate rubbish may follow: -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] scripting help.
Hi Dazza, -Original Message- From: DaZZa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I need a script which will basically run through a directory, and copy all files which start with the same letter of the alphabet to a destination directory. This might get you started (sorry 'bout the FORTRAN-like variables): $ for i in a b c d e ; do for j in "$i""*" ; do echo $j done done a* bin crontabs distfiles e* $ -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
