[SLUG] September SLUG Meeting: Friday, September 25 2009
== September Monthly Meeting == You can read the full version of this announcement at http://slug.org.au/node/118 SLUG's monthly meeting. Meetings are open to the general public, and are free of charge. Where: Our venue is now Google, Level 5, 48 Pirrama Road, Pyrmont. It's across the road from Star City Casino. A map of the area can be found here[1], and public transit directions are at [2]. Appropriate signage and directions will be posted around the building. You will need to sign-in to enter the venue. This can be performed when you arrive, but to save time we recommend that you do so online beforehand at Anyvite[3]. If you are unsure, please sign up as a 'maybe'. This allows us to organise adequate meeting space and facilities. You do not need to create an account to indicate your attendance. We start at 18.30 but we ask that people arrive at least 15 minutes early so we an all get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive before 18.00, as it may hinder business activities for our host! This month's sessions are: General Talk Marc Titmuss: Ingres and the transition from Closed Source to Open Source Company The reasons, the challenges and the successes of Ingres's transition to become an open source company. In-Depth Talk TBA: TBA TBA SLUGlets General discussion and Q&A about Linux, free software and open source. We have lots of space, so we can also break off into other smaller discussions. Hacker Space We have heaps of room available to us at Google. If the talks do not grab you, feel free to come along and hack away on your favourite project in the designated Hacker Space. Meeting Schedule See here[4] for an explanation of the segments. * 18.15: Open Doors * 18.30: Announcements, News, Introductions * 18.45: General Talk * 19.30: Intermission * 19.45: Split into two groups for: o In-Depth Talk o SLUGlets * 20.30: Dinner Dinner this month will be held locally, Details will be announced on the night. We will be taking numbers at the beginning of the meeting. If you have any particular dietary requirements (e.g. vegetarian), let us know beforehand. Dinner is a great way to socialise and learn in a relaxed atmosphere :) We hope to see you there! [1] http://tinyurl.com/ParkingPyrmont [2] http://wiki.slug.org.au/howtogetthere [3] http://anyvite.com/9nep2e50jy [4] http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/meetingformat -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Music player opinion
On 3 Aug 2009, Peter Rundle wrote: > Suggestions anyone? cplay? quodlibet works quite well, too. -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: XBitHack
On 8 May 2009, da...@kenpro.com.au wrote: > I've got this snippet in apache config: > > > Options +Includes XBitHack full IncludesNOEXEC > > > da...@david:/etc/apache2$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload > Syntax error on line 17 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: > Illegal option XBitHack > ...fail! > da...@david:/etc/apache2$ > > mod-include is enabled Are you /sure/? -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon mirror?
On 1 May 2009, so...@snowfrog.net wrote: > Anyone know of (or how to find) an Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon mirror? > > Yes, way old (at 2 years...), but I'm trying to maintain an old > machine that I don't want to upgrade. Gutsy has dropped out of the > Ubuntu mirrors, and googling on "Ubuntu Gutsy mirror" etc isn't > getting me far... Everything back to Warty is available from: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux netbook?
On 24 Apr 2009, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: > I also installed a Kingston 16G SD card to hold /home; otherwise the > 8G SSD fills up quite fast, by the time you've got lilypond, emacs, > texpower etc., installed. Of course, your preferred application mix > may be different from mine. Have you managed to get suspend to work with such a setup? -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Linux netbook?
On 22 Apr 2009, Danny Yee wrote: > Does any vendor in Australia sell Linux netbooks? The only one I can > find is the original 7" Asus EeePC - everything else seems to be XP. At least the EeePC 901 and the Aspire One are available with Linux (I bought my Aspire One from OfficeWorks, Linux EeePCs seem to be a lot harder to find in stores). -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] April SLUG Monthly Meeting: Friday, April 24 2009
== April SLUG Monthly Meeting == You can read the full version of this announcement on the Web at http://slug.org.au/node/113 When: 18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 24 April, 2009 We start at 18.30 but we ask that people arrive 15 minutes early so we can all get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive before 18.00, as it may hinder business activities for our host! Appropriate signage and directions will be posted on the building. Where: Atlassian[0], 173-185 Sussex Street, Sydney (corner of Sussex and Market Street) Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along the outside of building from Sussex St to near the entrance. A map of the area and directions can be found here[1]. = Talks = ** General Talk ** Matthew Landauer: OpenAustralia.org Matthew will be presenting a talk about OpenAustralia.org, a site that makes it easy to find out who your Federal parliamentary members are and what they're up to down in Parliament. ** In-Depth Talk ** Andrew Boag: How we built an office Staging/Dev Environment with OpenVZ and an old workstation Andrew will tell us the exciting story of how he turned a collection of leftover hardware and a consumer ADSL connection into a super awesome staging environment. ** SLUGlets ** General discussion and Q&A about Linux, free software and open source. = Meeting Schedule = See here[2] for an explanation of the segments. * 18.15: Open Doors * 18.30: Announcements, News, Introductions * 18.45: General Talk * 19.30: Intermission * 19.45: Split into two groups for: o In-Depth Talk o SLUGlets * 20.30: Dinner Dinner is at Golden Harbour Restaurant, in Chinatown. We will be having the $24 Banquet[3], but we will be collecting $25 per head for ease of accounting and to cover a tip. We will be taking numbers during the break to confirm the reservation size. If you have any particular dietary requirements (e.g. vegetarian), or if you would prefer to order separately, let us know beforehand. Dinner is a great way to socialise and learn in a relaxed atmosphere :) We hope to see you there! [0] http://www.atlassian.com [1] http://tinyurl.com/35fxes [2] http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/meetingformat [3] http://www.goldenharbour.com.au/specials.html -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: What is the status of the Tor project?
On 19 Mar 2009, Howard Lowndes wrote: > I have just installed installed Tor in Firefox using the Ubuntu tor > and tor-button packages. > > When I run the check it fails even though the tor and the privoxy > daemons are running. Have a look at your logs - /var/log/tor/log (accessible only to root). It'll at least show if it can connect to other tor nodes. > It tries to reach check.torproject.org but the DNS is not resolved; in > fact that domain name is a CNAME for null.lostinthenoise.net which is > what is not resolving. check.torproject.org. 3452IN CNAME null.lostinthenoise.net. null.lostinthenoise.net. 3455 IN A 209.237.247.84 working for me now - perhaps it was just an intermittent or local issue? -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control
On 19 Mar 2009, John Ferlito wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:46:49AM +1100, Sonia Hamilton wrote: >> * Alan L Tyree [2009-03-18 11:55:51 +1100]: > Looking for some advice. I have used RCS version control for > writing LaTeX documents for some time, but am looking at the > advantages of using a distributed version control system. >> >> Is there any reason why you want to use a *distributed* VCS? For >> personal stuff it's probably overkill, and using a centralised VCS >> will make your life easier. In which case use Subversion. > > I would disagree on that point. Even in cases where something isn't > going to be distributed I would still prefer bzr over svn any day of > the week. I assume the same could be said for git and hg users. e.g. less hassle to just start using it: $ cd ~/stuff $ bzr init $ bzr add $ bzr commit -m "initial import." instead of: $ svnadmin create ~/svn $ svn mkdir -m "make stuff" file://~/svn/stuff/ $ svn co ~/svn/stuff ~/tmp/stuff $ cd ~/stuff $ mv ~/tmp/stuff/.svn . $ svn add $ svn commit -m "initial import." -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Email Domains --- handling of invalid email addresses
On 13 Aug 2008, R. G. Salisbury wrote: > Some ISP's (exetel ... [EMAIL PROTECTED])is one, that do not > bounce notices when you send to an invalid email address). > > Some ISP's do bounce a message , so you know the status , so you know > it is futile to try again to the same address. > > Why ISP exetel doesn't bounce messages That is fine. They should /reject/ mails sent to non-existent addresses, and then /your/ MTA could generate a bounce. They don't even seem to do that, and instead just accept mail for any user, which is silly. -- -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: The Crossword Compiler, again.
On 10 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I tried the suggestions that were posted and many thanks for > them. > And again, I append the logfile. > Could someone comment/suggest, please? > I gather I have to have all of build-essential installed before I can > go further. What does 'sudo apt-get update' say? -rob -- I'm not absolutely sure what a Tuesday is. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: News in my inbox?
On 3 Oct 2007, Adelle Hartley wrote: > Are there any well-known packages for transferring posts from an NNTP server > into my Inbox & vice-versa, and for that matter checking RSS feeds and > posting the results to my Inbox (or more sensibly a subfolder)? For RSS, there's rss2email. -rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ide-scsi on vanilla 2.6.9
On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 03:23:09PM +1000, Vino Fernando Crescini said > On 07 Nov 2004 10:56 EST you wrote: > > > > > it depends on how you've built the kernel but scsi emulation is being > > depreciated and you should be able to burn directly to the ide device now. > > for example if you use cdrecord, you no longer have to use the lun's but > > can > > call the /dev/hd* directly. > > > > regards, brett > > > > thanks. cdrecord complains loudly when used with dev=/dev/hdc: > > Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. It should still work, the warning should not be there. -rob -- Words of the day:North Korea White Water Debian radar propaganda Reno AFSPC -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 01:41:39AM +1000, James Gregory said > > These are all good points, but 99% of desktop users don't run multiple X > > servers, > > I suspect they will run multiple X processes, just not at once. Logging > in and out of *DM requires an Xserver to be shutdown and started. You > get the same hit there. Hah, I find it very very hard to belive the hit here is measurable, much less noticable. But we're both talking out our arses here :-) > > aren't trying to circumvent proprietary font licenses, > > the point was that it is more difficult to circumvent such licensing if > there is no need to keep local copies of those fonts. But it's not > really relevant. right. > > but are > > using client-side font-rendering...I know a font server is of use to > > some people in fairly specialised situations, but I'm quite surprised > > that "desktopy" distros are installing it at all. > > Ok. That's a separate question. I suspect it's simply because it's > easier for distributions to have a single, tested configuration that > will deal with all circumstances. It makes no difference to the user at > all -- the installer will install X, and it will know that X depends on > xfs, and xfs will be added to the appropriate runlevels when that > package is installed. It used to be the case that using an X server was > the only way to get TrueType fonts. There's probably been no good reason > to move away from that configuration. > > I do however think that the arguments of speed, responsiveness and > stability are pretty important for all users. "Desktopy" or not. Keep in > mind that whether or not your users run multiple X servers, it's pretty > likely that they'll log in more than once. *DM will shut down the X > server in that case, but the font-server will keep running. Right, but has anyone ever measured the speed, responsiveness and stability, if any, you get from it? To me it just seems like an extra level of indirection and wasted ram, that most apps won't even use (mozilla, gnome and kde use fontconfig etc now anyway). -- Words of the day: CISU domestic disruption AGT. AMME eavesdropping import Agfa signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 12:41:37AM +1000, James Gregory said > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 21:53 +1000, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:47:10PM +1000, Malik Jayawardena said > > > Hi Nick, > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > > > We've acutally just sussed it out. Apparently FC2 has font scaling > > > disabled by default. All we did was add these two lines under > > > "*catalogue=*" to the > > > */etc/X11/fs/config* and it fixed it. > > > > Fedora still uses a font server by default? Why? > > Why are you saying "still"? My Mandrake laptop (recently installed) is > running the xorg X11 server and its default config is to talk to a font > server. I was under the impression that it's pretty common practice. In > addition to the old-skool XDrawText calls which would use those fonts > are the various systems that do client-side rendering and use the > Xrender extension to put fonts on the screen. Keep in mind that these > are separate systems (as far as I know). Yes, afaik, too. Note that anything using fontconfig or xft can't use a font-server anyway. > Anyway, it seems to me like a relatively sensible thing to do -- it > means you only need to load font data once between X servers. Sure. > I generally have GDM start up a couple of X servers on boot, so > there's presumably a saving there. Right. > Likewise, there's probably a time saving in font loading time. > There'll probably be a delay involved in IPC, but it won't be worse > than the overhead you already suffer from the X infrastructure. My > understanding is that the XFree86 X server is single- threaded atm, so > it's likely that using a font-server would allow you to continue > interacting with the machine whilst fonts are being loaded. Yeah. > The real reason to me though is that there's a fair bit of work involved > in dealing with fonts. I tend to have heaps of them installed. Having > the code to do that work in a separate process is a logical division to > my mind. It buys you stability in that a dodgy font won't take down a > running X server (well, not necessarily true, but it's another layer to > get through). You might need to restart your font server, but that's > acceptable. That can also be automated if need be. Ok. > I suppose I can also envisage situations where having a font-server > would allow you to enforce a site-license for a commercial font. Not an > issue here I suppose, but it's another reason for maintaining that > separation. Sure. These are all good points, but 99% of desktop users don't run multiple X servers, aren't trying to circumvent proprietary font licenses, but are using client-side font-rendering...I know a font server is of use to some people in fairly specialised situations, but I'm quite surprised that "desktopy" distros are installing it at all. So, er, yeah, it was more a "general" why than a "you" why :) -- Words of the day: cracking Roswell genetic Majic Yukon munitions Defcon Becker signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:47:10PM +1000, Malik Jayawardena said > Hi Nick, > > Thanks for the reply. > > We've acutally just sussed it out. Apparently FC2 has font scaling > disabled by default. All we did was add these two lines under > "*catalogue=*" to the > */etc/X11/fs/config* and it fixed it. Fedora still uses a font server by default? Why? -rob -- Words of the day: Ron Brown CESID lock picking quiche Watergate Fat Man Peking signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] seg fault on df
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:40:41PM +1000, Ramon Buckland said > Hi, > > sometime in the past month, I performed an upgrade > to my unstable debian. (apt-get update/upgrade) and possibly (i can't > remember, a dist-upgrade. > > I'm now getting a seg fault on a few commands., but repeatable is > when attempting to run df. > > Can anyone suggest a way I can resolve the issue? My ultimate aim is to > fix without a reinstall the box. (but if needed, I guess I will). > > Probably the one thing that might be the issue is I am running > 2.5.72 kernel. > > Here's my seg fault (not that it will help much, but show my pain I > guess :-) > > sebago:~# df > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > <1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address > 0018 > printing eip: > 0018 > *pde = > Oops: [#14] > CPU:0 > EIP:0060:[<0018>]Not tainted > EFLAGS: 00010246 > eax: 010c ebx: 08051228 ecx: 0054 edx: 007b > esi: b420 edi: 40156510 ebp: c438a000 esp: c438bfc0 > ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 > Process df (pid: 9407, threadinfo=c438a000 task=c326ace0) > Stack: c010904f 08051228 0054 b420 b420 40156510 b408 > 010c > 007b 007b 010c 400f0334 0073 0246 b3b0 > 007b > Call Trace: [] > Code: Bad EIP value. > Segmentation fault Just for the record, note that this is what's called a "kernel oops", which is the kernel version of a segfault. No user space process should be able to cause this to happen, and it usually means a kernel bug or bad physical memory. In this case it looks like it was the former, which is good and far cheaper to fix :) -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: CESID secure cryptanalysis propaganda clandestine e-cash signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] zombie file?
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 04:41:10PM +1000, James Gregory said > Dear SLUG, > > I happened to need to obliterate some files today and stumbled upon this > one > (/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/nvidia-driver-1.0.5336/linux-2.6.1-1.65/drivers/scsi/psi_dale.h) > that refused to be obliterated. Upon actually looking in the directory I found this: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] scsi]# ls -la > total 12 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 May 2 16:36 . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 17 May 2 13:14 .. > ?- ? ?? ?? psi_dale.h > > in addition to the rather unhelpful question marks, the psi_dale.h was > coloured red. I'll read up a bit more and see what I can find, but I was > wondering if anyone here had seen something similar and fixed it. > > It's a Fedora Core 2T3 box, and the partition in question is RAID1ed and > XFS. Does XFS complain into "dmesg" about this file? What happens if you run "stat" on it? Have you had any hard crashes lately? Can you delete the directory it's in? Veery-long-shot, but if you boot with SELinux disabled, do you get any more info about it? That file sure looks like the kernel is very unsure about it... -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: USCODE Aladdin STARLAN hackers jihad bank ANDVT UOP sweep signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] After kernel 2.6.5-1 install, cursor&printing lost, reboot hangs after upgrade...
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 06:15:23PM +1200, Adam Felix Bogacki said > Hi, attempting to installing MPlayer, I found had no audio with the > 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel. > I apt-installed the 2.4.25-1-686 kernel, headers, and alsa-modules but > was ultimately informed > on alsa-users that my kernel/modules were 'foobar' . Kernel 2.6 .5-1-686 > includes alsa-modules so I tried that. Well, 2.4.25 has about 6 local root exploits, but, aside from that, you can certainly build the ALSA modules from the alsa-source package. > On first reboot, I found that OO0 1.1 and AbiWord would not print but > that MPlayer had good audio and video, when it worked. On subsequent > reboots, the cursor was frozen in the center of screen following login > but I could use command-line functions in unconfigured windows, Yes, you do indeed need to read the kernel CHANGES document, or one of the trillions of 2.4->2.6 guides before embarking on a major kernel upgrade. For a start, you need to load the mousdev module, and possibly the psaux or psmouse one if you have a PS/2 mouse. Also, make sure you have hotplug installed. Some google hints: "dave jones 2.6 upgrade" and "wonderful world of 2.6". Printing problems probably stem from not loading the lp module. > including mutt and MPlayer. I tried a number of 'apt-get updates' and > 'apt-get dist-upgrades --fix-missing' in the hope that appropriate > package downloads would fix the cursor and problems. No, they were (probably) kernel config problems, which apt won't ever be able to fix. > The last 'dist-upgrade --fix-missing' included an upgrade of > 'kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686' and the > install of a 'libmouse' package, but then came a message that modules > needed to be re-generated during boot, and that I needed to 'reboot soon'. > > On rebooting however, I get the message "Loading Linux .." and > then the screen hangs. That's, uh, bad. Does it go blank or does it just not change from that point? Does the disk audibly churn? > I can access the system on a 2.25 kernel rescue disk, but which does not > have net access. Can you purge (dpkg -P) and reinstall the kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686 package from this kernel? -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: clandestine rs9512c Blowpipe csim kilderkin Centro halcon signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian & SSH2
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 12:10:03PM +1000, Howard Lowndes said > I'm new to Debian and the sshd2 setup is slightly different to what I am > used to. > > According to the man pages, on the sshd2 server, I should have a file > $HOME/.ssh2/authorization which contains pointers to the files in > $HOME/.ssh2 which contain the public keys for the user wishing to > authenticate. You're using ssh from the "ssh2" package, not the "ssh" one? "ssh2" is the old non-free-evil-unmaintained-proprietary one. "ssh" is the new, beautiful, loving, caring Free OpenSSH that supports the SSHv1 and SSHv2 protocols. With openssh, just use ssh-copy-key-id (after running ssh-keygen -t rsa) to copy the public key bit to the remote machine; after that, you should have passwordless logins. Well, assuming you set no password on the key, or use ssh-agent... -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: Yukon radar Belknap COSCO unclassified nitrate interception signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] sshd lshd
On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 09:50:06AM +1000, David said > > I've installed Libranet, which is a Debian Sarge derivation. > > Libranet installs an old version of lshd which turns out to have a > severe security alert. The Libranet packaging doesn't appear to offer an > alternative to lshd, or a later version. > > Can anyone tell me why I should or should not be using lshd? Which lsh is this? lsh the DOS-compatible shell, or lsh the GNU SSH client? If the latter, just use OpenSSH (make sure you have the latest version of it, and OpenSSL), no idea about the former. -- Ah, mercury, sweetest of the transition metals. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Writing char drivers in Redhat 9 (again)
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:32:12AM +1000, Richard said > Howdy all, > > I?m trying to recompile a character driver for RH7 under RH9 (2.4.20-8). > > I?m getting errors because /usr/include/linux/fs.h no longer has > definitions for > > struct file_operations > struct inode > struct file > > This seems to nullify any documentation on linux character device > drivers that I?ve ever seen. Am I missing something obvious? Anyone know > how we?re supposed to do it now? Shouldn't you be building it against actual kernel headers, instead of libc ones? In Debian you would use the ones from the kernel-headers- package. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: investigation Etacs interception International Criminal Court signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Pleasant looking font
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:03:55AM +1000, Rajnish Tiwari said > Hi All, > > On my favourite editor, NEdit, I have my font set to 'courier'. > (Aside: I use vi/vim too - often for quickly editing small files) > > As I look at the editor everyday, I wonder if there is a more > 'pleasant' looking fixed width font on both linux & solaris ? > (I aim to keep my NEdit preferences similar). I quite like the "terminus" font (in the xfonts-terminus package in Debian), though it is a little large on low-res displays. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: Skipjack Indigo CipherTAC-2000 Treasury Fat Man Ermes signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to tell apt-get not to remove some packages when removing others
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:11:10PM +1100, Michael Lake said > Peter Hardy wrote: > > Rather than just building and installing from a source tarball, would it > > be possible for you to backport from unstable? The advantage of that is > > that you end up with a .deb, meaning you don't break your dependency > > chain. There's no guarantee, however, that the unstable package is the > > most recent. But it will be fairly close. :-) > > They are no later candidatates for either testing or unstable > > testing & unstable are at: libdbi-perl 1.35-1 (out of date) > testing & unstable are at: libdbd-mysql-perl 2.9003-1 (up to date) > > I have a tarball for DBI-perl at 1.41 > > Main reason why I need to install libdbd-mysql-perl from source is to > compile it on my machine here and see if I get the segfault that the > binary dist gets. Try dh-make-perl, it'll make snazyy little packages out of tarballs from CPAN. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: AGT. AMME terrorist import encryption assassinate signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PHP process number
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 09:31:17PM +1100, Howard Lowndes said > When I am running PHP in its free-standing mode, ie. not called from > Apache, how to I get the process number that PHP is running as? ps aux | grep php p.s. your mail had a rather bizarre To: header, am I the only person who saw it? -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day:bullion India offensive information warfare Bellcore ANZUS signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] good cd burning software?
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:11:43PM +1100, Jasper streit said > hi all > > any recommendations on a good piece of cd burning software, i'm using > k3b and not liking it very much :( gcombust is a very simple one, just select the .iso file or set of directories you want, then hit "combust". -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: Honduras World Trade Center enemy of the state Montenegro signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Virtual Machines (Re: [SLUG] good Oz-based mail host)
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:55:56PM +1100, Jeff Waugh said > > > > Full disclosure: I run a Bytemark virtual server purchased through > > http://jvds.com/ -- but as far as I'm aware I don't get referral discounts > > :) > > But maintainers or significantly contributors to FOSS projects receive a > discount from Bytemark (and their US partners). Ahr, bonus. That should > inspire everyone to get involved! ;-) And a sweet discount for students/teachers/non-profits, too. Very responsive tech support, and general all-round goodness. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: White Water Steve Case pink noise Albright CipherTAC-2000 signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] CDRecord + LiteOn DVD Writer
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 02:58:28PM +1100, Andrew Monkhouse said > Hi everyone, > > Just stole my girlfriends LiteOn DVD Writer to test whether it would > work under Linux. I can read / write CD-RWs no problem, but trying DVD- > RW gives me the following message: > ># cdrecord dev=0,0 -blank=all /tmp/tmp.iso Don't you need dvdrecord for DVD recording? -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day:clandestine IMF spy mailbomb Fat Man assassination signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] enable command....
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 11:02:01AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said > Hi All, > I have debian Woody installed, and noticed something a little odd > There is two enable commands, one appears to be a bash builtin, and the > other for enabling printers in cups. > lotus-server:~# enable kyocera > bash: enable: kyocera: not a shell builtin > lotus-server:~# /usr/bin/enable kyocera > lotus-server:~# > > Is this right?? I was under the impression you should never have two > different commands with the same name. > The cups documentation mentions nothing about conflicting with the bash > shell enable command - so it took me a while for the first time to work > out while I couldn't enable my printer. As an aside, the Debian cups packages links to "cupsenable" and "cupsdisable" to the "enable" and "disable" in /usr/bin/. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: 64 Vauxhall Cross Montenegro ANC Soviet Ron Brown FTS2000 signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Dell Gateway Celeron 400
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:50:33AM +1100, Jeff Waugh said > > > > I had a Dell Gateway Celeron 400. Im trouble get the > > manual for it, I need to know what kind of video card > > chipset in it, so my debian can work properly. > > Run lspci to see what kind of card you have. Or let your computer figure it out for itself: $ apt-get install discover mdetect read-edid $ dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common $ apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common The defaults should match your installed hardware, so hitting enter several hundred thousand times should get you a working X configuration. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: MD2 UK Rule Psix SRI overthorw fraud explosion JUWTF signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] No more Red Hat Linux support after April 30 2004 - Qui ck Survey
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:13:46PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said > I started off with Yggdrasil Linux and switched over to RH at about > release 4.0 I think, and have been using it ever since. I tried Debian > a long time ago, and swore off it due to dselect (yes, I hated it that > much). There have been alternative frontends for yonks. apt-get and aptitude are probably the two most popular. > So to some degree, I am suffering because I don't want to spend the > time on a complete release upgrade (because in my experience they never > "just work". It's better to install on a new partition and gradually > configure things again.) Heh, foolish non-Debian user :-) > So again, the key issue for me is ease of administration/maintenance, > and the longevity of the source that you'll get your packages from. > Maybe it will be Fedora, if they run the project well. Maybe it will > be Debian if they speed up their development. Don't know how you > include impure software packages transparently in the Debian universe. This is less of a problem than you think, since almost anything you could possibly want is already packaged. If it's not, then you have a bunch of options: 1) file a ITP (intend to package) bug and package it yourself 2) file a RFP (request for package) bug and hope someone else does it for you 3) Create an el-dodgo deb with "checkinstall", which will at least be cleanly installable and removable 4) Install it into /usr/local/ with "stow" 5) Slop it wherever you like Oh, and don't forget to check http://www.apt-get.org/, too. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: ASLET SEAL Team 6 Montenegro MD4 Aldergrove Ortega Manfurov signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] no user access for pppd
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 08:30:25AM +1000, Russell said > Hi, > when a users dials to isp, kppp returns 'unable to open modem' > however, success when root user can dial isp, with no errors or time outs. > the users are members of group 'dip' > the file permissions for pppd are set to suid > the gid for kppp and pppd are set as 'dip' > this is a debian box, with kde 3.1.4 and running kernel 2.4.18 > compiled for this box. > this occurs for existing and new users. Don't you want people to be in the dialout group? crw-rw1 root dialout4, 64 Aug 20 18:31 /dev/ttyS0 That's the serial port, and not being able to write to it would give you errors like "unable to open modem". > this started to occur after upgrading kde to 3.1.4 from original knoppix > install > (to run gnucash 1.8.7) > and kde has some problems, ie kde doesn't displaying some fonts, e.g. in > kde help konsole and sysV-init editor You mean these programs display no fonts at all, just boxes or blanks? Does this affect all KDE programs? Have you selected a fixed font that actually exists in the Konsole configurationg thingy? > , and and X display on monitor is > reduced vertically (vertically challenged?) Sure you haven't just shrunk the vertical height on your monitor itself? -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: Lon Horiuchi Fortezza LLNL Marxist explosion Ft. Knox signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:38:27AM +1000, James Gray wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:30 am, Robert Tillsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Guys > > > > I just installed debian (well the bits that seemed to work). > > I've been able to log into the console, but I wouldn't mind seeing if the > > GUI is up. > > > > All I can remember about how to get into a gui is xstart, but that > > doesn't work. Anyone know what command I need? > > > > Regards > > > > Rob T > > Try "apt-get install xbase-clients" > > The xbase-clients package contains all that "startx" good stuff. If there > are any unmet dependancies apt will take care of those too. After all the > blinking and whirring is done, try "startx". If you get errors, > specifically about unable to find a default font etc, try "apt-get install > xfonts-base" for some reason my last Debian (Woody) installation this > wasn't includedgo figure. There is another way, that should setup most everything for you automatically. On x86, anyway... $ apt-get install discover mdetect read-edid x-window-system $ dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common $ apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common That *should* get you going, even from a fairly broken configuration :) -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.ertius.org/ GPG keys: 1024D/1E73B7CD, 4096R/3ABDE5EC | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: 9705 Samford Road Roswell Kh-11 NATO Ruby Ridge warfare PLO pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian xfree
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:55:12PM +1100, Mick Boda wrote: > Hi All > > dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 the following message is produced > > ii xserver-xfree86 4.1.0.-16 the xfree server > > What is apt-get update command that will install the dependcies? Is that a problem? If you want to install a basic X system, install the 'x-window-system-core' package. For something closer to what most people want, try 'x-window-system'. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ertius.org/ If I want a CC, I'll ask for one! | Do I *look* like I want another damn war? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] msttcorefonts
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:27:34AM +1100, Chris D wrote: > Hello all, > I've installed msttcorefonts and the fonts appear in some X-programs but > not others - for example OpenOffice and xfontsel, and others... > > I seem to be able to access them from the Gnome2 fonts prefs window and > Mozilla but nowhere else. > > During the setup, I was told defoma was probably not setup to handle X > fonts -- and pointed me to a non-existant file. > > Anyone else had this experience? Install the 'x-ttcidfont-conf' package, and add this FontPath line to your XF86Config-4 file in the "Files" section: FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" You may or may not need to restart X after this. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://ertius.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
