Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Glen Turner wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:43 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. Is that 4-bit IBM nybbles or 6-bit DEC nybbles? he he he 6-bit DEC nybbles? never. cheers rickw -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services || Internet Driving Instructor A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but can't afford an air force. -- William Blum -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 05:43:56PM +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: I call shenanigans! On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 16:22 +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s 1) It's mibi not mebi. I don't think so Mister! Your url disagrees with you! So there and also: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html 2) The same standard that defines mibi- as a prefix (IEEE 1541 [1]) specifies that b is the symbol for bits, and B should be used for bytes. In practical use, though, I tend to see either bits or B. -- Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. per ..? fortnight? Who actually uses these prefixes in real actual speech? Not me, I'd feel a right wally. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too I have avoided D-Link hardware for about five years now. My experiences back then included failure-prone products, long telephone tech support queues (4 hours plus, I kid you not!), IE-only Web interfaces, and a tonne of other things that I can't think of at this time of night. I have no idea of how they are now, but they would have had to have improved immensely to be even half-decent in my book. -- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Try TP-Link ADSL 2+ Modem http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=111 It's cheap but you need to use an atheros superG cards on the client side to use the proprietary 108mb wifi but it's compatible with B and G and works like a charm in firefox and has bridging On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 08:43:44AM +1100, Morgan Storey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. I do not think that the dsl-502T is made for more then the simple stuff, i.e. as a bridge, however for this its rock solid! I am away from the exchange about 3.5Km and the downloads are about 720kb/s(steady). I had to turn it off yesterday morning as I did some phone cable re-routing, but this is what the modem reports just now (yes this is 1.3 GB since 14.00 yesterday) Rx PDU's 1019840 Rx Total Bytes 1358496516 Rx Total Error Counts 1727 AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest Oh yes: [root ~] #telnet XX.XX.XX.XX Trying XX.XX.XX.XX... Connected to XX.XX.XX.XX Escape character is '^]'. BusyBox on (none) login: XX Password: BusyBox v0.61.pre (2007.11.02-05:10+) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. # firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. I have no problem running firefox (we do not use IE, its blocked at the firewall) This modem has another cool feature. It is impossible to get to any modem in bridge mode without having a second interface, this one has an ethernet AND usb port, so what I did as my setup is (on the LINUX router): eth2: USB based virtual network card that is connected to the USB port of the DSL-502T eth1: INTERNAL LAN facing network eth0: BRIDGE based nework card used for ppp that is connected to the eth port of the dsl-502T ppp0: my WAN based IP address. I do not need a fancy modem, as the linux router does what I need much better/faster although I have to admit that because of the busy box on the 502T its getting close. But on the router I have some fancy cpus ... Jobst On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk. | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:52:21AM +1100, xorprime ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Try TP-Link ADSL 2+ Modem http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=111 It's cheap but you need to use an atheros superG cards on the client side to use the proprietary 108mb wifi but it's compatible with B and G and works like a charm in firefox and has bridging So it isn't cheap anymore, isnt it? When I look around through my spare parts I have so many nice/good 100mb ethernet cards lying around and thats enough for all ADSL connections I know of. Jobst On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn lies, and statistics. - Disraeli | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode Regards Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\*http://miller.emu.id.au/pmiller/ PGP public key ID: 1024D/D0EDB64D fingerprint = AD0A C5DF C426 4F03 5D53 2BDB 18D8 A4E2 D0ED B64D See http://www.keyserver.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. Real Programmers' programs never work right the first time. But if you throw them on the machine they can be patched into working in 'only a few' 30-hour debugging sessions. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Oh well, make it Mb/s then ;-) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 12:50:54PM +1100, xorprime wrote: Oh well, make it Mb/s then ;-) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 09:42 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. I use one of those, in bridging mode. Happy apart from no Annex M support (for increased uplink speeds). -- Glen Turner http://www.gdt.id.au/~gdt/ 0416 295 857 or +61 416 295 857 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
I call shenanigans! On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 16:22 +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s 1) It's mibi not mebi. 2) The same standard that defines mibi- as a prefix (IEEE 1541 [1]) specifies that b is the symbol for bits, and B should be used for bytes. In practical use, though, I tend to see either bits or B. -- Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Hi all, I've been banging my head against my adsl modem and I wondering if it might not just be easier/cheaper to replace it with something better. Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. Cheers, Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Fifty years of programming language research, and we end up with C++ ??? --Richard A. O'Keefe -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On 28/02/2008, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been banging my head against my adsl modem and I wondering if it might not just be easier/cheaper to replace it with something better. Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I've been using a Thompson SpeedTouch 536 in straight bridge mode in front of a WRT54GL (OpenWrt) with the WRT handling the pppoe dialing but your modem should handle it in bridge mode OK. When you switch to bridge mode you usually lose administrative access to the modem. I haven't played with half bridging so not much help there. This is with Bigpong and it needs the pppoe username and password. You could try seeing if it works in gateway? mode before switching to bridge? With this modem in gateway mode it has a fairly good CLI. Tony -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
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had to disable it for various clients due to (mainly) bigpong getting
constantly listed.
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Subject: Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations? Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:13:13 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chris Deigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote(Erik de Castro Lopo); I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) - Chris What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking at researching if/how it works with Linux. Thanks, Kanwar Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking at researching if/how it works with Linux. Alcatel don't they? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:23:32 +1100 (EST) Kanwar Plaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? Different ISPs provide different modems. For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... My experiences with Bigpond Cable broadband is the reason I am moving to ADSL with someone other than Bigpong. Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup I have so far spent over 5 hours on the phone to telstra suport bots (actually an insult to most functional bot programs) explaining to them that its their responsibility to get Telstra's mail servers out of the database. Meanwhile, I am getting legitimate email from me to people I know all over the world getting bounced back to me. Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't. - Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Unfortunately, so are SORBS. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ It's not just a song! It's a document of my life! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:21 am, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Unfortunately, so are SORBS. - Jeff Hence the reason all the SORBS scores in every SpamAssassin installation I manage have scores of zero. Then you have customers who insist on using some weird-arse RBL that was never intended to be distributed (like this one - http:// www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php). Then you end up with you mail server being guilty by association (within the IP block assigned to $ISP)grrr. What sort of RBL blocks an ENTIRE B-class network?!?! James - -- Fortune cookies says: What one fool can do, another can. -- Ancient Simian Proverb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQ8nwwBHpdJO7b9ERAt0rAKCXIcr1kq+JGPl3xpQVqNQKW1YHYgCgjBFw nSApyf3ZHBlGkR6YiDVJvWw= =lCIk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Kanwar, I'm with telstra, they provided me with an Alcatel Speed Touch Pro, which I used windows and their supplied cd to setup. Then told linux it had a new gateway. 5 min including rebooting. I also have here the Netcom nb1300 and the Billion bipac-714 ge v2.0 I'd recommend the billion to anybody. Easy to setup, very configutrable and use. (The modem I currently use) My two pence worth anyway. Ashley What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking at researching if/how it works with Linux. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup And not just the cable ones either - a good percentage of their mail servers that permanently connected business customers are supposed to use as relays, or if they can't set up their own mail server, are there as well. I keep catching hell at work because the RBL lookup matches, and blocks legitimate inbound mail. I remove the server, but as soon as another message comes through - BAM, right back in. And there is *no* consistancy as far as which server gets used - you can't say Client XX uses server YY for outbound mail all the time, and put in an exception for server YY. I have so far spent over 5 hours on the phone to telstra suport bots (actually an insult to most functional bot programs) explaining to them that its their responsibility to get Telstra's mail servers out of the database. You are flat out wasting your time. The only thing that got Telstra off their arse to fix their news servers was the threat of a UDP against them - and even then, they did it at the absolute last minute. Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. So do I, but unfortunately, you can't stop people sending you mail from a Telstra account. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Unfortunately, so are SORBS. Care to elaborate? If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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quote who=DaZZa Unfortunately, so are SORBS. Care to elaborate? If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. First off, their methods and policies for adding and keeping IP addresses (but usually whole blocks) are pretty shonky. Bodgy tests, insisting that a number of infractions lists you for a full year (and similar rules), and the worst is aggregating all of their lists - even the very suspect ones - into a single rbl (which is basically what all SORBS users use). Most removals are done manually, not via automated checks. Many of their lists are whacked enough by definition that they require manual checks. Insane. You really have to read their webpage (http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/) to see just how crack they are. Additionally, to get off some of their lists, you must make a $50 donation to a suggested or chosen charity. That's just flat-out extortion - even though it sounds all very nice and dandy, and we should wring spammers necks, and yada yada yada, SORBS are so willy-nilly with their shotgun approach that they affect everyone. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ Gah. Out of coffee. Shall think whilst auto-caffeinating. - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:35:05 +1100 (EST) DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Care to elaborate? If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. OK, here is a bounce that I got: Connected to 208.137.128.6 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 Mail from 144.140.70.20 refused by dnsbl dnsbl.sorbs.net Where 144.140.70.20 is one of the bigpond mail servers. Looking it up on SROBS: http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=144.140.70.20 144.140.70.20 found in Database of servers sending to spamtrap addresses Address or Block 144.140.70.20 / 32 Description Subject: * failure notice Entry Created Wed Jan 21 11:40:09 2004 GMT Entry Last Seen Wed Jan 21 11:40:09 2004 GMT Spam Seen From 144.140.70.20 Now everyone will recognise that Subject line as a line from one of the latest windows virii. So what happened was that some bigpond user has a machine with a virus, and the virus sent an email to the SORBS spamtrap address. I have no problem with people who filter out virii. I can even live with the stupid fscking virus notification emails, but blacklisting a whole ISP because one of their users has a virus is a bit much. So I agree, SORBS is a least as fscked as bigpond. I can't do much about SORBS, but I will be leaving bigpond ASAP. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ He who writes the code gets to choose his license, and nobody else gets to complain -- Linus Torvalds -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=DaZZa
Unfortunately, so are SORBS.
Care to elaborate?
If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a
balanced argument as to WHY they're bad.
First off, their methods and policies for adding and keeping IP addresses
(but usually whole blocks) are pretty shonky. Bodgy tests, insisting that a
number of infractions lists you for a full year (and similar rules), and the
worst is aggregating all of their lists - even the very suspect ones - into
a single rbl (which is basically what all SORBS users use). Most removals
are done manually, not via automated checks. Many of their lists are whacked
enough by definition that they require manual checks. Insane.
You really have to read their webpage (http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/) to
see just how crack they are. Additionally, to get off some of their lists,
you must make a $50 donation to a suggested or chosen charity. That's just
flat-out extortion - even though it sounds all very nice and dandy, and we
should wring spammers necks, and yada yada yada, SORBS are so willy-nilly
with their shotgun approach that they affect everyone.
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
DaZZa
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quote who=DaZZa
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
Ah, now that's much harder. Your decision should be driven by your users
requirements and policies more than anything else. Go to openrbl.org and
check out the ones it uses, and choose between them based on your needs.
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=DaZZa
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
Ah, now that's much harder. Your decision should be driven by your users
requirements and policies more than anything else. Go to openrbl.org and
check out the ones it uses, and choose between them based on your needs.
Have done, and made some changes.
Now, let's see if they work. :)
Thanks.
DaZZa
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[SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
HI all, I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? TIA, Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Windows NT : An evolutionary dead end. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Dlink 504/604 firewall, 4 port hub, NAT, DHCP + more Depending on wireless or not. Just plug the cables in and off you go. Has web/telnet/serial connections for setup if needed and config. I have been using mine for about 8mths with no problems. If I have one complaint it has a noisy transformer. Darren On Mon, 01 Mar 2004, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: HI all, I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? TIA, Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Windows NT : An evolutionary dead end. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Darren Williams dsw AT gelato.unsw.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gelato.unsw.edu.au -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
quote(Erik de Castro Lopo); I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) I have a Billion and I must say it works great, as compared to the last 2 modems I had in the past. If I had to buy another modem, I would be buying a billion again. It all comes down to what you want, work out how you want to setup your network with the modem and then buy a modem that suits you. If wanted my linux machine to do all the routing and nat, then I'd probably buy a traverse pci adsl modem :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Chris Deigan wrote: quote(Erik de Castro Lopo); I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) I am using the Single port Netgear router which can operate as a Modem or a router. I also have several of the larger Router's in use at customers house's and they are working very well. I have them running in several diferent ways from Modem on a E-Smith.org server to running in router mode. They are fairly easy to configure and in 7 months and running an Office of a Res-DSL Connection through Comindico have not had any problems at all. David - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:56:23 +1100 Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI all, I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? Thanks for all the replies people. Interesting thing is that I heard from two people who had the NB1300, upgraded the firmware and had no problems form there on. I think I'll probably just get the NB1300. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ #!/bin/sh unzip ; strip; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; more ; umount ; sleep ; -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
Alexander Samad wrote:
I am a swiftel user, haven't had a problem as of yet, apart from the mtu
problem but thats life.
That was caused by Telstra changing the MTU.
As have all (but 1) problems I'v had with Swiftel adsl in the last two
months.
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On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 07:06:58PM -0700, Bill wrote: I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with more reasonable download limits. Internode works well to me. http://adsl.internode.on.net/. Any recemmendations/experiences with ADSL modems will be appreciated. I use a D-link DSL-300 and have had no complaints thus far. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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I am a swiftel user, haven't had a problem as of yet, apart from the mtu problem but thats life. Cheap and reliable my 2c On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:08:20PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: -= I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain -= access to ADSL (once -= I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm -= interested in info re suitable recommended modems. Gee, 7 weeks It's taken me 4.5 YEARS so far...:-( -= -= I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with -= more reasonable -= download limits. Have a look at the plans from Swiftel - they seem pretty reasonable. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Hi, I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain access to ADSL (once I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm interested in info re suitable recommended modems. I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with more reasonable download limits. Any recemmendations/experiences with ADSL modems will be appreciated. The new house has been wired with cat 5 cable for data/video/phone lines, and I already have a PC to use as a firewall/router so a plain modem is all I need. Thanks in advance Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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-= I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain -= access to ADSL (once -= I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm -= interested in info re suitable recommended modems. Gee, 7 weeks It's taken me 4.5 YEARS so far...:-( -= -= I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with -= more reasonable -= download limits. Have a look at the plans from Swiftel - they seem pretty reasonable. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:06, Bill wrote: Hi, I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain access to ADSL (once I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm interested in info re suitable recommended modems. I'd suggest checking the archives for the SLUG list and whirlpool for info. This topic is covered in depth frequently at both sites. greeno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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I have a billion ASSL Modem, www.ausadsl.info It's a firewall, USB, Ethernet and the cheapest I beleive still .. not if that doesn't sell you, well .. I have had no problems with it and found out the other day by poking around that you can replace it's web based admin via the built in FTP server which is attached to the FLASH ROM with my own version that I may just write .. (cool factor 10+) .. and probably break it, but hey .. On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 00:25, Alexander Samad wrote: I am a swiftel user, haven't had a problem as of yet, apart from the mtu problem but thats life. Cheap and reliable my 2c On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:08:20PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: -= I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain -= access to ADSL (once -= I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm -= interested in info re suitable recommended modems. Gee, 7 weeks It's taken me 4.5 YEARS so far...:-( -= -= I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with -= more reasonable -= download limits. Have a look at the plans from Swiftel - they seem pretty reasonable. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
Alexander Samad wrote:
let me read the question again
netcomm 1300, bridging and router and 1/2 bridge for the lazy, not a
problem with it either, got it from swiftel.
Netcomm NB3300 ADSL modem router, again from Swiftel. It actually comes
direct from Swiftel. PS if you go Swiftel, gets some one connection
number and enter it as the referring agent. They can give you a six pack
in return. {:-)
Is easy to configure with IE on Win98.
The one page setup page (PPPoE, PPPoA, bridging, etc) plays up on
Netscape on anything (win98, NT, Linux) and can be dodgy on Mozilla on
woody Linux.
The other pages (DHCP, DMZ, logging, status, forwarding, etc) seem to
work okay 90% of the time. Not even Netcomm knew this. I'm happy with
it, except for this point.
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
Bill wrote: I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain access to ADSL (once I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm interested in info re suitable recommended modems. I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with more reasonable download limits. iiNet (iinet.net.au) have been alright for me (I got ADSL on the ~10th July), few outages, mainly due to telstra. Any recemmendations/experiences with ADSL modems will be appreciated. The dsl-300+ has worked great for me. Others, I know, would work well -- however the dsl-300+ and routers, I can tell you that it will work on any computer that has a spare ethernet card and can do DHCP. There are also some printserver/switch/routers around ~$190 at everythinglinux.com.au. - Chris (Who is in no way whatsoever associated with everythinglinux, besides being a rather happy customer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
