Re: [SLUG] E Commerce
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:12:02PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has asked me set up an online shop for her small craft supplies store. I'm a bit confused about why people are so hung up on internet payment options. We already have a vast number of payment options which are well understood and fully functional. Every shop must already be able to process a reasonable number of these in order for the shop to work at all so why should the internet be considered magical? * Come into the shop and pay cash * Write a cheque (either post or over the counter) * Postal money order * Come into the shop and pay by credit card * Give credit card details over the phone * Direct bank deposit at any branch of your bank * Direct bank transfer (at branch / phone bank / internet bank) * Run an account with the shop and make monthly payments as per above If you accept some or all of the above already then just make a list of the ways that people can pay and put the list on your website, also put contact details so people can discuss options with you. Thus solveth the internet payment gateway problem. What remains are three things: * Using a web page as advertising for your shop * Using a web page as a public catalog of your products with prices * Put an ORDER ENTRY system to onto a web page so the customers can type in their own orders (and check for correctness). None of these have anything to do with payments. - Tel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBQtbhysfOVl0KFTApAQLqURAAk1um9wDtoMziOSroUhGcmwy2uRKBRU3Q JbzOtZCHTortGAFXR2OoJ3/WkyoL6gyLnpU9g/r0IVqmmYKxzh6He+D7T7Ipf5TY EDCRS+9Jd9Dg5LVVstkWcoo4yxnKmoUBZjgqHIao3VT6LCNv6BhX+yogZIMSfqAO +KIFmsuXq7dq6m2gI93eh74gd3n9OHpqH589crWZ+uAtI1CArMWTPnf6ND6UTBnD p6MdnF18duL41oHtKyE3M220c2X2zG4CABVcWRNk5qCfAdTU+p/ob9355FqoiKtU vscbtrGp3A+AMM1nKkYyhO9f4P6SXoa16tqJKPtAY7eTqI/cWgXPHoQf9BlmqQOf nVuOI7hx3ccgAev0NOrJ1CQDY2W0MMPt7vQuJerwO+M1TwfdDlzdou+MshjzTCDr lKoEadlGSCFtIwxGrEpCNhRXTXr9knWuAJn7d3H6jr88nUqKq6etwkw6PKQpgzod tsooJT1rcUN/0eiVEZpphhisZTOgiRkCjIhFg75/SFGIhN7A3LkNSVxwmB/4mqqt v/ScMD4RSLIWCWlhVKdB55jJgsjMxz97Wkd1WMBkcri1tzhoTitS1KKvV8XMWtEG fLxs6OfpBpK5Scl1to2mH46+9S0b+BBRozkcFoG1AyOpaEZCf1DB8NbmCFKRmDtw Hpb0m7sj2PM= =dCmU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] E Commerce
This is true if the shop is physical, with virtual shops you are trading your physical presence for the ability to trade 24 hours a day worldwide. If you restrict your ability to accept payment methods convenient to your audience you restrict your sales, all in all it is trade off between the hassle of taking online orders or potentially losing sales. Phil. On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:12:02PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has asked me set up an online shop for her small craft supplies store. I'm a bit confused about why people are so hung up on internet payment options. We already have a vast number of payment options which are well understood and fully functional. Every shop must already be able to process a reasonable number of these in order for the shop to work at all so why should the internet be considered magical? * Come into the shop and pay cash * Write a cheque (either post or over the counter) * Postal money order * Come into the shop and pay by credit card * Give credit card details over the phone * Direct bank deposit at any branch of your bank * Direct bank transfer (at branch / phone bank / internet bank) * Run an account with the shop and make monthly payments as per above If you accept some or all of the above already then just make a list of the ways that people can pay and put the list on your website, also put contact details so people can discuss options with you. Thus solveth the internet payment gateway problem. What remains are three things: * Using a web page as advertising for your shop * Using a web page as a public catalog of your products with prices * Put an ORDER ENTRY system to onto a web page so the customers can type in their own orders (and check for correctness). None of these have anything to do with payments. - Tel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] E Commerce
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:25:14 +1000 Phil Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true if the shop is physical, with virtual shops you are trading your physical presence for the ability to trade 24 hours a day worldwide. If you restrict your ability to accept payment methods convenient to your audience you restrict your sales, all in all it is trade off between the hassle of taking online orders or potentially losing sales. And Beware, beware, beware: merchants bear the risk of credit card fraud. Everyone should know this, but I see tragic examples all too frequently of those who do not. Authorisation as required by the credit card companies does NOT guarantee payment. Cheers, Alan Phil. On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:12:02PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has asked me set up an online shop for her small craft supplies store. I'm a bit confused about why people are so hung up on internet payment options. We already have a vast number of payment options which are well understood and fully functional. Every shop must already be able to process a reasonable number of these in order for the shop to work at all so why should the internet be considered magical? * Come into the shop and pay cash * Write a cheque (either post or over the counter) * Postal money order * Come into the shop and pay by credit card * Give credit card details over the phone * Direct bank deposit at any branch of your bank * Direct bank transfer (at branch / phone bank / internet bank) * Run an account with the shop and make monthly payments as per above If you accept some or all of the above already then just make a list of the ways that people can pay and put the list on your website, also put contact details so people can discuss options with you. Thus solveth the internet payment gateway problem. What remains are three things: * Using a web page as advertising for your shop * Using a web page as a public catalog of your products with prices * Put an ORDER ENTRY system to onto a web page so the customers can type in their own orders (and check for correctness). None of these have anything to do with payments. - Tel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 428 148 071 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] E Commerce
Phil Manuel wrote:
all in all it is trade off between the hassle of
taking online orders or potentially losing sales.
And you forgot the most important; limiting the ways that customers
can rip you off. And the merchant fee can be horrendous some times as
well (depends on what you are selling).
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Hi Either you DO drive a credit card or you have never purchased anything on the internet. I will avoid purchase from such a site if at all possible, because of the hastle of payment! EVERY internet bank can do bpay, you need extras (and payment) to do transfers EG ANZ apply in writing for the facility specify your daily limit pay-to-use So yes I think this is a very important detail On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:12:02PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has asked me set up an online shop for her small craft supplies store. I'm a bit confused about why people are so hung up on internet payment options. We already have a vast number of payment options which are well understood and fully functional. Every shop must already be able to process a reasonable number of these in order for the shop to work at all so why should the internet be considered magical? * Write a cheque (either post or over the counter) expensive (I don't know anybody who still drives a cheque-book in Oz) * Postal money order costs $2.50 * Come into the shop and pay cash * Come into the shop and pay by credit card if you are going to the shop you don't need or want E commerce * Give credit card details over the phone you choose to have one * Direct bank deposit at any branch of your bank $10 ANZ * Direct bank transfer (at branch / phone bank / internet bank) hastle to go to their bank with munnie, cause you still can't pay the bank! * Run an account with the shop and make monthly payments as per above Do business's still do that ? Any every month, then how do you pay? And most craft customers will start (at least) as casual customers. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Either you DO drive a credit card or you have never purchased anything on the internet. I will avoid purchase from such a site if at all possible, because of the hastle of payment! EVERY internet bank can do bpay, Really? Even in South Korea, France, Germany, Cannada and the US? I have received payments from the above countries. Fortunately the payments have been relatively large AUS$1000, so people don't mind doing a wire transfer. Because the number of payments is low, credit card is out of the question; the bank charges would be too high. As it is, ANZ charges me $10 for each transfer. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Having a firewall that allows NFS to the Internet is like having a seat belt that lets your head touch the dashboard. -- Marcus Ranum -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] E Commerce
Gonzalo == Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gonzalo On 7/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gonzalo wrote: [..snip..] 1. Fully hosted service ( would have to be linux based and a couple of them advertise that they are) using their online/offline shop configuration systems and payment gateways. Some of these seem to eliminate the need to be a credit card merchant but transaction fees are high. Gonzalo Yep, you'll probably loose some of your income if you use one Gonzalo of these. You did mention small craft shop so you're Gonzalo probably better off asking clients to use direct deposit, Gonzalo money order or if you want to accept credit card payments: Gonzalo PayPal/Paymate. I suppose you've already eliminated just using Ebay? Peter c -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Interchange http://www.icdevgroup.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has asked me set up an online shop for her small craft supplies store. I have been trawling the web and the Slug archives for advice about the best way to proceed but am still confused. There seems to be a number of ways to go: 1. Fully hosted service ( would have to be linux based and a couple of them advertise that they are) using their online/offline shop configuration systems and payment gateways. Some of these seem to eliminate the need to be a credit card merchant but transaction fees are high. 2. Build a system, probably using php and mysql, possibly based on one of the sourceforge Ecommerce projects and either link to one of the payment gateways and host it at any isp providing php. 3. Although the bandwidth would be low, reliability concerns would seem to emiminate the option of self hosting at the end of an ADSL connection. 4. Combinations of the above. 5. Something different suggested by the list Could someone suggest where I can get info on a good strategy to follow and possibly suggest linux based providers. Although not directly linux related some advice on a cost effective way to process credit card payments would be very appreciated Thank you and regards Steven -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] E Commerce
On 7/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..snip..] 1. Fully hosted service ( would have to be linux based and a couple of them advertise that they are) using their online/offline shop configuration systems and payment gateways. Some of these seem to eliminate the need to be a credit card merchant but transaction fees are high. Yep, you'll probably loose some of your income if you use one of these. You did mention small craft shop so you're probably better off asking clients to use direct deposit, money order or if you want to accept credit card payments: PayPal/Paymate. 2. Build a system, probably using php and mysql, possibly based on one of the sourceforge Ecommerce projects and either link to one of the payment gateways and host it at any isp providing php. Yep, good option. I suggest something like osCommerce (at least it's the best I've found that is open source) 3. Although the bandwidth would be low, reliability concerns would seem to emiminate the option of self hosting at the end of an ADSL connection. If you're real low on budget, then yeah, why not. I'd avoid this like the plague though when you can get hosting from as little as $10/month. As for your cost effective way to receive credit card payments, look into Paypal/Paymate. If you do your own credit card processing, it will cost you a monthly fee even if you don't make any transactions, not to mention hassles with credit card fraud. Getting approved by banks as a merchant is not the easiest of things either. Hope this helps. Good luck! Regards, Gonzalo -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Talks to the St George Financial Transaction Server. The FTS i use is at: www.au.interpath.net I wrote a generic PHP Class that does all the heavy lifting and invokes cURL (curl.haxx.se) that does the secure link jobbie back to interpath. You get a lovely report mailed to you nightly. I would have to say, that from my personal experience, do NOT go with online credit card transactions. Theres heaps of reasons :- A) There expensive.. for little purpose B) you have NO control over the transactions.. C) Contrary to popular belief, customers do NOT feel more comfortable doing their transactions with a third party.. (Yes.. National Australia Bank.. this means you too) B is very important.. as you don't get a chance to vete the order for fraud activity. Let me tell you about a company I know of that had online credit card facilities.. Most online carders are trying to get in between when a card is stolen, to when it's reported stolen.. So that the system will accept the transaction, and you, the merchant wont know that it was fraudulent until you get the charge back request like a month later. Anyway.. someone put through like 200 fraudulent transactions (via Amex) totally well in excess of $20.. And when the chargebacks came through, Amex decided they had too many, and revoked their merchant facilities. Visa/Mastercard will do the same thing under the same circumstances. SO.. basically.. get an EFTPOS machine from your bank.. and put them though by hand.. PGP them from your web site and email them to you. Just dont STORE them anywhere on the web site. Make sure you scrutinise all orders for fraud signs. Don't accept ANY orders from Indonesia, and don't trust Overseas orders with Visa/Mastercard. Amex are the ONLY ones who will do destination verification for you to validate the card and order address. -- Anthony Rumble - Managing Director EverythingLinux.com.au - The Alternative Operating System Store LinuxHelp.com.au - Support,Training,Development,Consulting Phone: 0500 500 368 Direct 02-9712-1799 Fax 02-9712-3977 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Chris Barnes wrote:
Hey everyone,
I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure
what I need to do this.
Have a look on freshmeat for shop, etc.
There is at least one linux package for WWW shopping
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Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Chris Barnes wrote: I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. It'll only cost you $500/hr for two programmer/analysts and a graphic designer. And Bob's yer uncle! Total project time: 1000 man-hours, guaranteed delivery in six months. Email me. Email me now. _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited My Windows box sits in the corner, an appliance to run legacy software. In my opinion, that's the ideal use of Windows.Steve Litt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
there is a package called akopia or owned by akopia. it used to be minivend. a search for either will find it. go to www.minivend.com and it'll take you there. this is just one of many options. credit card clearance? now that's a bit harder... ben Chris Barnes wrote: Hey everyone, I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. Chris Barnes System Operations Rams Home Loans Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Redhat has an open-source e-commerce app at http://developer.akopia.com Cheers, Rob At 21:14 16/05/2001, Chris Barnes wrote: I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. -- Time's fun when you're having flies. This is number 966 of a collection of 1125 quotes. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Rick Welykochy wrote:
Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know.
It'll only cost you $500/hr for two programmer/analysts and
a graphic designer. And Bob's yer uncle!
actually he was my great uncle!
just a personal preference, I'd shoot the graphic designer as a public
favour myself.
too many graphics are a real turn off.
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Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Look at Redhat Interchange - AKA Akopia - AKA Minivend. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com ...well, it worked before _you_ touched it! On Wed, 16 May 2001, Chris Barnes wrote: Hey everyone, I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. Chris Barnes System Operations Rams Home Loans Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Chris, It appears that everybody has suggested the shopping bit - but you'll find that you'll also need something to talk to the bank.. this is the hard bit (as by your question, I'm assuming that you want realtime transaction approval etc..) In 99% of situations, you have to write bits of custom code using some form of middleware.. check out: www.aba.net.au for a start (as they have a free SDK etc and reasonable merchant fees..) other names to look for are Camtech and some other which I can't remember off the top of my head in the morning.. Quite simply, if you want a manual system - any Acme Shopping cart will do - and email you (encrypted) card details etc which you later process etc... but a proper one as per se, will indeed cost you time and money.. As Rick said... call me.. call me Now.. ;) //umar. Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
OK, this is not a plug, but I wrote an e-commerce gateway when I was working for NetRegistry ( www.netregistry.com.au ) that I considerred fairly nice. If you were coding on the server, it had a pretty nice API. Also I think it's flat fee, no transaction fees, although I did the math, and it only becomes worth it past 50 or 100 transactions a month. You can write your payment app in Perl, or there are a couple of apps they provide ( they are REALLY simple, for example, I did a Matt Wright FormMail with e-commerce capability hacked in while I was there ). They are local, it works with both St George and NAB, and unless it's been turned off since I left, there was an API that let you connect from anywhere. Of course they may have since started forcing people to use this IBM WebSphere thingy... so check it out first. Oh, and all their servers run linux. We ( when I was there ) were heaps better than CamTech I thought. Note to those with memory: I was not responsible for the .com.au dns registry spam, I'd only been there a week, what could I do :( AdamK P.S. Oh, and if the gateway is still the way I remember, I'm available to code applications for it :) - Original Message - From: Umar Goldeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: SLUG (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need. Chris, It appears that everybody has suggested the shopping bit - but you'll find that you'll also need something to talk to the bank.. this is the hard bit (as by your question, I'm assuming that you want realtime transaction approval etc..) In 99% of situations, you have to write bits of custom code using some form of middleware.. check out: www.aba.net.au for a start (as they have a free SDK etc and reasonable merchant fees..) other names to look for are Camtech and some other which I can't remember off the top of my head in the morning.. Quite simply, if you want a manual system - any Acme Shopping cart will do - and email you (encrypted) card details etc which you later process etc... but a proper one as per se, will indeed cost you time and money.. As Rick said... call me.. call me Now.. ;) //umar. Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Hi Chris, Ive done plenty of Ecomms sites under linux, here's my setup: PHP front End (with MySQL|PostGreSQL cURL support at least) MySQL | PostGreSQL Talks to the St George Financial Transaction Server. The FTS i use is at: www.au.interpath.net I wrote a generic PHP Class that does all the heavy lifting and invokes cURL (curl.haxx.se) that does the secure link jobbie back to interpath. You get a lovely report mailed to you nightly. Let me know if you need any more help. Cya Matta On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 07:00:06PM +1000, Chris Barnes wrote: Hey everyone, I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. Chris Barnes System Operations Rams Home Loans Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Matt Allen Technical Director Investigation Marketplace 0413 777 771 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
I'm not sure if you picked up on my idea but I was trying to do as much of it my self as I can. That way I can actually learn how it all fits together...And who the hell is going to spend that much money when I should be able to get alot of packages alot cheaper? Thanx, but no thanx man. -Original Message- From: Rick Welykochy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2001 21:14 To: Chris Barnes; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need. Chris Barnes wrote: I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. It'll only cost you $500/hr for two programmer/analysts and a graphic designer. And Bob's yer uncle! Total project time: 1000 man-hours, guaranteed delivery in six months. Email me. Email me now. _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited My Windows box sits in the corner, an appliance to run legacy software. In my opinion, that's the ideal use of Windows.Steve Litt Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Thanx Ben. I'm checking it out now. -Original Message- From: Ben Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2001 21:08 To: Chris Barnes Cc: SLUG (E-mail) Subject: Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need. there is a package called akopia or owned by akopia. it used to be minivend. a search for either will find it. go to www.minivend.com and it'll take you there. this is just one of many options. credit card clearance? now that's a bit harder... ben Chris Barnes wrote: Hey everyone, I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. Chris Barnes System Operations Rams Home Loans Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
Thanx man. That was heaps helpful =o) -Original Message- From: Matt Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2001 11:02 To: Chris Barnes Cc: SLUG (E-mail) Subject: Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need. Hi Chris, Ive done plenty of Ecomms sites under linux, here's my setup: PHP front End (with MySQL|PostGreSQL cURL support at least) MySQL | PostGreSQL Talks to the St George Financial Transaction Server. The FTS i use is at: www.au.interpath.net I wrote a generic PHP Class that does all the heavy lifting and invokes cURL (curl.haxx.se) that does the secure link jobbie back to interpath. You get a lovely report mailed to you nightly. Let me know if you need any more help. Cya Matta On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 07:00:06PM +1000, Chris Barnes wrote: Hey everyone, I want to add an online shop to a web site but I'm not exactly sure what I need to do this. I figure I need a database like MySQL or something, A secure web server but what else? Also, how does it all work together? I mean once the user has submitted their request how does the credit card information get sent or received to or from the bank...or is there a completely different way of doing this. Any ideas, any suggestions on software i should use please let me know. Chris Barnes System Operations Rams Home Loans Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Matt Allen Technical Director Investigation Marketplace 0413 777 771 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Searching for A Better Way to a home loan, call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] E-Commerce...what do I need.
quote who=Terry Collins just a personal preference, I'd shoot the graphic designer as a public favour myself. too many graphics are a real turn off. Don't blame graphic designers on the whole for idiotic abuses of web usability - you get what you employ. Good graphic designers who have learned the limitations and advantages of the medium aren't worth shooting - pay them as much as you can to keep them. Oh the other hand, I'd quite happily blame project managers for not ensuring that their web graphics people know what they're doing. - Jeff -- I tried to make money ass signing but the bottom fell out of the market. - Liam Quin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
