Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Well, point - Original Message - From: Stephanie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... If it is true what is she? A lying whoring piece of scum? If it is all true she tried to put someone in jail. I am starting to believe this girl is warped. Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:44:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... In a message dated 10/15/2003 1:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then my statement of it giving Kobe *alot* more credibility is sure true.if you ask me. well if its true then hes not a rapist but hes still a lying cheating piece of crap lol Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected toknow? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
LOL Yeah, that will never happen. LOL - Original Message - From: Angela To: The Sandbox Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... But I just dont see how it couldnt matter ya know. I mean if the girl isnt clear then how can a guy really know. It will get to the point that guys wont have sex anymore with anyone. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of DavidSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:19 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Well, that's true, but I've heard that point really doesn't matter any more. David L. Ben Franklin: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters." -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of StephanieSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:24 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected toknow? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters." -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Dont alot of states have laws that still basicly say sex between a man and a wife isnt rape? When I tried to prosecute a rape, at one point they told me a stranger raping someone is assault, but a person you know personally is a lesser crime. makes sense, heh ? - Original Message - From: Angela To: The Sandbox Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Ok, I know this might be going out in left field, but seriously how long till wives can start accusing husbands of rape and getting away with it. I mean I know even between husbands and wives no means no, it just seems to all be getting out of control. But yeah, curtailing casual sex between acquaintances is a good thing, but even sex between couples that arent married, but just engaged or something could begin to have problems. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:02 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Well it might curtail a lot of casual sex between acquaintances. From my point of view that's not a bad side effect. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AngelaSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:46 PMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... But I just dont see how it couldnt matter ya know. I mean if the girl isnt clear then how can a guy really know. It will get to the point that guys wont have sex anymore with anyone. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of DavidSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:19 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Well, that's true, but I've heard that point really doesn't matter any more. David L. Ben Franklin: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters." -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of StephanieSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:24 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected toknow? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters." -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
Going by doctors dear. - Original Message - From: Laurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die How do you know? Just because they can't tell you doesn't mean that it isn't the same. Laurie --- Jen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it doesnt have the same kind of effects as starving you or I to death would have. - Original Message - From: Greg Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Maybe, but I'm with Laurieit's still starving them to death. That's why it's always bugged me... - Original Message - From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die Actually, the hospice folks here swear that removing the tube is actually more peaceful for the patient than other methods. Their body shuts down and goes to sleep. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:38 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die I have a problem with just stopping the feeding tube. That is starving her to death...nope...can't go with that..but if she is braindead, or in a permanent vegitative state, I can see increasing pain meds and ending her life that wayno suffering. In my opinion, starvation is painful and suffering occurs. Laurie Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
Yep...that is all you can do...and hope they are right...but I would opt for the quicker way...an overdose of some pain killer and not let the person linger. Laurie --- Jen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Going by doctors dear. - Original Message - From: Laurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die How do you know? Just because they can't tell you doesn't mean that it isn't the same. Laurie --- Jen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it doesnt have the same kind of effects as starving you or I to death would have. - Original Message - From: Greg Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Maybe, but I'm with Laurieit's still starving them to death. That's why it's always bugged me... - Original Message - From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die Actually, the hospice folks here swear that removing the tube is actually more peaceful for the patient than other methods. Their body shuts down and goes to sleep. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:38 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die I have a problem with just stopping the feeding tube. That is starving her to death...nope...can't go with that..but if she is braindead, or in a permanent vegitative state, I can see increasing pain meds and ending her life that wayno suffering. In my opinion, starvation is painful and suffering occurs. Laurie Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] How should the U.S. respond to the Gaza bombing that killed three Americans?
Naw..just let Israel take care of it..
Laurie
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Re: [Sndbox] Kobe's Lawyers Introduce 'Compelling Evidence'
Well, I will say this..it is going to make a very high rated tv movie of the week when this is all over with. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kobe's Lawyers Introduce 'Compelling Evidence' Wednesday, October 15, 2003 http://www.foxnews.com/images/foxnews_story.gif EAGLE, Colo. - The preliminary hearing in the Kobe Bryant (search http://clickit.go2net.com/search?cid=307797site=srcharea=is.clicktracking shape=linkcp=info.foxnwsclickurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.foxnews.com%2Finfo.f oxnws%2Fredirs_all.htm%3Fpgtarg%3Dwbsdogpileext_qcat=webext_qkw=Kobe%20Bry ant ) sexual assault case ended Wednesday, after the defense introduced what it described as compelling evidence that the accuser wore underpants containing another man's semen to her rape exam. But prosecutors told Eagle County Judge Frederick Gannett (search http://clickit.go2net.com/search?cid=307797site=srcharea=is.clicktracking shape=linkcp=info.foxnwsclickurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.foxnews.com%2Finfo.f oxnws%2Fredirs_all.htm%3Fpgtarg%3Dwbsdogpileext_qcat=webext_qkw=Eagle%20Co unty%20Judge%20Frederick%20Gannett ) that there was uncontradicted evidence that the Los Angeles Lakers' guard raped the 19-year-old woman at a mountain resort. Now, Gannett must decide whether there is enough evidence in the case to require a criminal trial. Bryant, who is free on $25,000 bond, faces the potential of life in prison if he is convicted. Gannett said he hoped to rule by Monday whether Bryant will have to stand trial on a sexual assault charge that could send him to prison for life. I am confident that the judge will find probably cause and will bind this case over, said prosecutor Mark Hurlbert (search http://clickit.go2net.com/search?cid=307797site=srcharea=is.clicktracking shape=linkcp=info.foxnwsclickurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.foxnews.com%2Finfo.f oxnws%2Fredirs_all.htm%3Fpgtarg%3Dwbsdogpileext_qcat=webext_qkw=prosecutor %20Mark%20Hurlbert ) in a news conference following the hearing. It is not my intent to try this case to the media, but rather to try this case to an Eagle County jury of 12. Wednesday's hearing was held in open court after Gannett shot down prosecutors' request to close portions of the proceedings to the public. Accuser's Sexual History Questioned Bryant's defense focused on the accuser's undergarments. Lawyers said the tests found substances -- later described by the lead investigator as semen -- from a man other than Bryant. His lawyers argue that injuries to the woman may have been caused by previous sexual partners. Bryant attorney Pamela Mackey (search http://clickit.go2net.com/search?cid=307797site=srcharea=is.clicktracking shape=linkcp=info.foxnwsclickurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.foxnews.com%2Finfo.f oxnws%2Fredirs_all.htm%3Fpgtarg%3Dwbsdogpileext_qcat=webext_qkw=Bryant%20a ttorney%20Pamela%20Mackey ) wasted no time getting Detective Doug Winters to say that the yellow underwear the woman wore to her rape exam at a nearby hospital the next day contained sperm from another man, along with Caucasian pubic hair. The 25-year-old Bryant, who is black, contends he had consensual sex with the woman. Winters said the woman told him she had consensual sex with another man on June 27 or June 28 and used a condom, backing earlier defense suggestions she was sexually active before her encounter with Bryant. Winters also said two pairs of panties from the woman were tested - one from the night of June 30, the other being the one she wore to a hospital for an exam the next day. The latter pair contained blood and semen, Winters said. The accuser arrived at the hospital wearing panties with someone else's semen and sperm in them, not that of Mr. Bryant, correct? Mackey asked. That's correct, Winters responded. Mackey suggested injuries found during the woman's exam could have come from having repeated sex, a contention she first made in court last week. The defense contends the tests on the underpants provide Bryant with compelling evidence of innocence. The defense questioning of Winters came six days after prosecutors revealed details of the alleged June 30 attack. Bryant sat stoically with his hands folded watching his attorney tear apart the prosecution's version of the case. Occasionally, he leaned over and talked to his other lawyer, Hal Haddon. Mackey, who was subdued while questioning Winters, also managed to introduce something prosecutors didn't talk about last week - a statement by the night auditor at the hotel who was the first person the accuser saw when she left Bryant's room. The night auditor sent police a letter saying she saw the woman as she came back to the front desk at the Cordillera Lodge Spa. What the night auditor says in her letter is the accuser did not look or sound as if there had been any problem, Mackey said, asking Winters, Correct? Yes, Winters
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was "Maybe we shouldn't do this", is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen --Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected toknow? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] I'm gone for the week/weekend
Good, you can be Laurie and David. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:51 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] I'm gone for the week/weekend I will be here for the weekend..so you can expect mail from me. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Not allowed. Nope, not, never. You are going to be punished when you return. Huggy, start waxing the whips. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:25 PM To: Sandbox (E-mail) Subject: [Sndbox] I'm gone for the week/weekend Later guys and gals...in about 15 minutes that is. We are going to the Smoky Mountains for the weekend. I'm so ready for this trip. I will take some pictures and send them in...I have a digital camera now so no excuses, right? :-) Anyway, we are staying in a cabin in Pigeon Forge. http://www.alpinemountainchalets.com/vtours/nutcracker/nutcracker-suite.htm I think we will enjoy it. We will drive to Gadsden, AL tonight or Fort Payne, then go the rest of the way tomorrow. We'll be back sometime Sunday night, so I will be back in after the weekend. Next month it will be Branson, MO...we'll be taking mom up there so she can have some time away from things after she recoups from the surgery. :-) Anyway, I'll be around for a few more minutes, then I'm gone. Hope you all have a great week and weekend. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
After actually seeing this woman last night I would hate to be her parents and watch the facial expressions of her as she died of starvation and dehydration... It is going to be extreamly hard on them. On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 04:46 AM, Jen -- wrote: shrug All I know is what doctors have said to me in those situations. But I am the first to admit that doctors dont know everything. smile - Original Message - From: Tim Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Not the same . true... but I am not yet convinced that she will suffer no discomfort. On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Jen -- wrote: But it doesnt have the same kind of effects as starving you or I to death would have. - Original Message - From: Greg Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Maybe, but I'm with Laurieit's still starving them to death. That's why it's always bugged me... - Original Message - From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die Actually, the hospice folks here swear that removing the tube is actually more peaceful for the patient than other methods. Their body shuts down and goes to sleep. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:38 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die I have a problem with just stopping the feeding tube. That is starving her to death...nope...can't go with that..but if she is braindead, or in a permanent vegitative state, I can see increasing pain meds and ending her life that wayno suffering. In my opinion, starvation is painful and suffering occurs. Laurie Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS
TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS Kellie Martin (actress) is 28Wendy Wilson (singer) is 34 Flea (musician) is 41 Tim Robbins (actor) is 45 Suzanne Somers (actress) is 57 Chuck Colson (Watergate) is 72 Angela Lansbury (actress) is 78 Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Well that part is true, because it comes straight from the prosecutions witness. The detective on the case said the semen in her panties, the blood, and the pubic hair (which came from a white man) was *NOT* Kobe's. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:51 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If there was indeed semen in her panties that was not his...then she is lying. sounds to me like this girl gets around..maybe she should charge for her services. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really beginning to wonder if he did indeed rape her. I was pretty convinced of his guilt, but even her own testimony makes no sense. According to the detective the semen and pubic hair and blood in her panties was not Bryants. Yet she said she had no other sex after 2 days before. (OK initial reports were 4...) I just am not buying the story. She wore, dirty, wet, bloody panties for 2 days by her own admission? I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephanie Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... If it is true what is she? A lying whoring piece of scum? If it is all true she tried to put someone in jail. I am starting to believe this girl is warped. Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:44:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... In a message dated 10/15/2003 1:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then my statement of it giving Kobe *alot* more credibility is sure true.if you ask me. well if its true then hes not a rapist but hes still a lying cheating piece of crap lol Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps
City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps By LYDA LONGA Staff Writer Last update: 16 October 2003 DAYTONA BEACH -- Joseph Young noticed it was raining as he left for work on Oct. 1 -- so he donned his Boston Red Sox ball cap. That decision cost Young, a cab driver who works double shifts to make ends meet, $103. The cabbie, a driver for All-Florida Cab, Shuttle and Limo here, said he was not aware that he was breaking any laws by wearing a baseball cap inside his cab. "This is so stupid," Young said earlier this week. After only four months on the job at All Florida, Young found out the hard way about a city ordinance that regulates the appearance of cab drivers. Such laws are also on the books in other cities across the country. Dave Durante, a supervisor at All Florida, said all his drivers are told up front that baseball caps are out, but Young said he doesn't remember the admonition. On Oct. 1, he was parked along the curb at the intersection of Grandview Avenue and Seabreeze Boulevard when a Daytona Beach officer sidled up to his cab. According to a police report, the officer noticed Young was parked illegally -- then spotted Young's Red Sox cap. "He gave me a $40 ticket for parking along the yellow line," Young said. "The cap ticket was $103." Baseball might be as American as apple pie, but baseball caps -- and a few other specific items of apparel -- are not, in Daytona Beach. Part-time Daytona Beach resident Betty Monaco said she feels the cabbie dress code is paramount. "I think baseball caps, especially when worn backwards, do not look good," said Monaco, who wore a smart corduroy, cream-colored blazer and dark slacks as she boarded a Yellow Cab at the airport Wednesday. "I like to see a well-dressed taxi cab driver." Deputy City Manager Paul McKitrick, who helped amend the taxi driver-appearance ordinance in 1995, said company owners and the city wanted to improve cabbies' looks. "There were too many cab drivers in the city wearing baseball-type caps, and it gave a slovenly appearance," McKitrick said. "The thought was that they did not look professional." The municipal ordinance that emerged is brief but packs a punch, according to cab company owner Tony Ciulla. The fact that the ordinance does not rule out other types of hats -- such as cowboy hats, straw hats, beanies, etc. -- really irks Ciulla. "I think if a cabbie was wearing a straw hat inside his cab, he would look like a dork," said Ciulla, owner of Southern Komfort Taxi. Ciulla says he is also upset that cabbies can't wear T-shirts. Cut-off shorts and swimsuits are also illegal, as are sandals. Young can take some solace. Other cities around the country have their own standards for cab-driver attire. It's illegal to dress like Elvis while you drive a cab in Seattle. And cabbies in St. Louis must wear black pants, black shoes and white shirts. If you're a taxi driver in Philadelphia, make sure you're wearing socks before you turn on the meter. And in Chicago, where some cabbies must don khaki pants and polo shirts, umbrellas are a required accessory to keep passengers dry in the lousy Midwestern weather. Daytona Beach cab driver Mitch Moore has a problem with penalties that can slam cabbies if they're not mindful of their wardrobe. "There's nothing wrong with trying to maintain a standard for drivers, but I think they're picking on people who don't make that much money to begin with," Moore said. As far as Young is concerned, the whole issue is much ado about nothing. "I usually wear a cap when it's rainy out," he said. "That's all." Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Daily Humorscope for Thursday, October 16, 2003
In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:08:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Taurus (April 20 - May 20) Good day to invent an anti-gravity device. Or at least, to tell everyone that's what you're doing. I can do that! LOL Gary Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps
Ok, I can agree with the cab company making a rule like this, but it is not any of the city's business. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps By LYDA LONGA Staff Writer Last update: 16 October 2003 DAYTONA BEACH -- Joseph Young noticed it was raining as he left for work on Oct. 1 -- so he donned his Boston Red Sox ball cap. That decision cost Young, a cab driver who works double shifts to make ends meet, $103. The cabbie, a driver for All-Florida Cab, Shuttle and Limo here, said he was not aware that he was breaking any laws by wearing a baseball cap inside his cab. "This is so stupid," Young said earlier this week. After only four months on the job at All Florida, Young found out the hard way about a city ordinance that regulates the appearance of cab drivers. Such laws are also on the books in other cities across the country. Dave Durante, a supervisor at All Florida, said all his drivers are told up front that baseball caps are out, but Young said he doesn't remember the admonition. On Oct. 1, he was parked along the curb at the intersection of Grandview Avenue and Seabreeze Boulevard when a Daytona Beach officer sidled up to his cab. According to a police report, the officer noticed Young was parked illegally -- then spotted Young's Red Sox cap. "He gave me a $40 ticket for parking along the yellow line," Young said. "The cap ticket was $103." Baseball might be as American as apple pie, but baseball caps -- and a few other specific items of apparel -- are not, in Daytona Beach. Part-time Daytona Beach resident Betty Monaco said she feels the cabbie dress code is paramount. "I think baseball caps, especially when worn backwards, do not look good," said Monaco, who wore a smart corduroy, cream-colored blazer and dark slacks as she boarded a Yellow Cab at the airport Wednesday. "I like to see a well-dressed taxi cab driver." Deputy City Manager Paul McKitrick, who helped amend the taxi driver-appearance ordinance in 1995, said company owners and the city wanted to improve cabbies' looks. "There were too many cab drivers in the city wearing baseball-type caps, and it gave a slovenly appearance," McKitrick said. "The thought was that they did not look professional." The municipal ordinance that emerged is brief but packs a punch, according to cab company owner Tony Ciulla. The fact that the ordinance does not rule out other types of hats -- such as cowboy hats, straw hats, beanies, etc. -- really irks Ciulla. "I think if a cabbie was wearing a straw hat inside his cab, he would look like a dork," said Ciulla, owner of Southern Komfort Taxi. Ciulla says he is also upset that cabbies can't wear T-shirts. Cut-off shorts and swimsuits are also illegal, as are sandals. Young can take some solace. Other cities around the country have their own standards for cab-driver attire. It's illegal to dress like Elvis while you drive a cab in Seattle. And cabbies in St. Louis must wear black pants, black shoes and white shirts. If you're a taxi driver in Philadelphia, make sure you're wearing socks before you turn on the meter. And in Chicago, where some cabbies must don khaki pants and polo shirts, umbrellas are a required accessory to keep passengers dry in the lousy Midwestern weather. Daytona Beach cab driver Mitch Moore has a problem with penalties that can slam cabbies if they're not mindful of their wardrobe. "There's nothing wrong with trying to maintain a standard for drivers, but I think they're picking on people who don't make that much money to begin with," Moore said. As far as Young is concerned, the whole issue is much ado about nothing. "I usually wear a cap when it's rainy out," he said. "That's all." Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
I don't trust either of them, but Phil is more amusing. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails
LOL, I knew what you were talking about. Actually I'm biting my tongue right now on another list wanting to really go off on something, but its not even worth the argument. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:30 PM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails Makes two of us. ROFL ( I'm talking about the list this came from btw, not THIS one lol ) - Original Message - From: Angela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails LOL yes dear, all the time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:33 PM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails And does it produce in you, what it does in me.frustration, and wondering if it's really worth it? ROFL Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Bush's 'hate-filled people' remark riles Moslem leader
Bush's 'hate-filled people' remark riles Moslem leaderOCTOBER 16, 2003 04:32:21 Jakarta (dpa) - U.S. President George W. Bush's call on Indonesian Moslems to stop ``hate-filled people'' from determining the country's future drew immediate fire from one prominent religious leader who accused Washington of ``double standards''. ``We're demanding the U.S. explain to the world its stand,'' said Din Syamsuddin, deputy chairman of Muhammadiyah, Indonesia's second largest Moslem organization. Syamsudin's remark was in response to Bush's statement calling on Indonesia to tell the world most of the country's Moslems are moderate, and to stop small groups of ``hate-filled people'' from dictating how the country should be run. In an interview published on Thursday by Kompas newspaper, Indonesia's most respected daily, Bush said he will discuss ways to combat terrorism with President Megawati Sukarnoputri and other Asian leaders during his tour to Asia and Australia next week. ``I think it's very important for Indonesia to firstly announce to the world that the majority of Moslems in Indonesia are moderate, respecting democracy and peace,'' Bush said in an interview. ``In line with that, it's very important not let a splinter of murderers determine Indonesia's (future) ... We don't want that Indonesia to be determined by a small group of hate-filled people,'' Bush added, in an apparent reference to Moslem militants in the country. Syamsuddin, who is also secretary general of the mainstream Indonesian Ulamas Council, accused the U.S. of following a ``double-standard'' policy, in particularly in connection with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. He also accused Bush of imposing unfair policy to combat international terrorism. ``In handling terrorism, the United States follows ... double standard policy,'' state-run Antara news agency quoted Syamsuddin as saying. He urged Bush to stop terrorizing the world, in particular his ``state terrorism'' policy because it has destroyed world order. Syamsuddin urged President Megawati, as the leader of Indonesian which boasts the world's largest Moslem population, ``should be brave in expressing her peoples' aspiration and demanding the U.S. president to stop his unjust and unfair policy in combatting terrorism''. Besides Megawati, during a scheduled four-hour stop over on the Indonesian resort island of Bali on October 22, Bush also plans to hold talks with leaders of Indonesia's moderate Moslem organizations. Bush, in his interview with Kompas, said he wanted to address anti-American sentiment in Southeast Asia during his visit, ``to make sure that people who are suspicious of our country finally understand our motivation is pure''. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Later
Ugh, It's right up there on my list with clothes shopping. Cant stand either one. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jen --Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:39 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Later Grocery shopping is my fave thing in the world. - Original Message - From: Angela To: The Sandbox Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Later You can come do mine. Like I said the biggest thing for me is I hate spending money and it seems grocery shopping takes up quite a bit of money -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Greg HopperSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:04 PMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Later I like grocery shopping, always have. lol :P - Original Message - From: Angela To: The Sandbox Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Later Yeah go figureI hate spending money..unless its on something I want. Of course I was shopping for groceries, but even regular shopping for anything else I hate doing too. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of DavidSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:26 PMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Later A woman that hates shopping...amazing. :-) David L. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
I am not arguing the legality. Or the need for the law to be as it is. Only that in this case I believe that the husband is being a prick. G Charles I can see over ruling the parents. Because the husband is the next of kin. As I stated before, if my wife made the hard decision to take me off life support there is no way I would want my mother to be able to come and reverse that decision. When I got married I left her house for good, and my wife became my closest relative. While I agree with you that the husband should take their feelings into account, the decision must always remain with the spouse. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] 2004 fashions
Works for me!! Gary In a message dated 10/15/2003 11:21:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it! hehee ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:14:08 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] 2004 fashions Tue Oct 14, 4:06 PM ET Missoni Spring/Summer 2004 collection. Milan, Italy 10/05/03 (Gruber-FWD) inline: CAPTFW~1.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Ozzy tour on shaky ground, canceled
Ozzy tour on shaky ground, canceledBOSTON -- Ozzy Osbourne has canceled his European shock-rock tour to take treatment for severe shaking, the London Mirror reported Wednesday. The 54-year-old's trembling was obvious in episodes of the reality television show, "The Osbournes," but it apparently caused him enough concern to seek help from a Boston neurologist, the report said. Neurologist Allan Ropper, of St. Elizabeth's Medical Center in Boston does not believe Ozzy has Parkinson's disease as has been reported, and explained why singing would be a challenge during treatment. "His tremor is now under control," Ropper said. "Unfortunately some of the medication I prescribed can cause extreme dryness of the mouth." Osbourne said he hopes to reschedule the European tour for next year. This year's was to have launched in Dublin, Oct. 22. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Police upset at secret filming of officers
Police upset at secret filming of officersLONDON -- British police are upset over a BBC documentary of a reporter who went undercover as a police officer, the London Sun reported. Mark Daly, 28, joined the Manchester police department and secretly videotaped fellow officers with a camera hidden in his uniform. He worked as an officer making arrests and taking statements, the Sun said. "Daly deliberately set out to ply young recruits with alcohol to loosen their tongues," a senior officer told the Sun. "The staff at Stockport, where he worked, recall he often questioned them about race and their personal views." Greater Manchester Chief Constable Michael Todd failed at his appeal to the BBC not to air "The Secret Policeman," Tuesday on BBC1. Meanwhile, Daly is out on bail after being charged with "suspicion of obtaining an advantage by deception" for his salary of $23,000 during his time at the Manchester police department. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Kidman wins London Sun libel suit
Kidman wins London Sun libel suitLONDON -- Actress Nicole Kidman has won her libel case against the London Sun over claims she had an affair with actor Jude Law, reports said Wednesday. The 37-year-old actress was awarded undisclosed damages, which she reportedly will give to a charity that helps children in Romania, the London Mirror said. Her lawyer told the High Court in London: "The article implied the claimant had led Jude Law to cheat on his wife, Sadie Frost, and by her behavior caused the breakdown of their marriage." Law, 30, co-starred with Kidman in "Cold Mountain." He is divorcing Frost, 37, with whom he has four children. In its own coverage, the editors of the Sun wrote of the original article alleging she had broken the marriage: "We now accept that these allegations are untrue. We apologize to Ms. Kidman for the distress and the embarrassment caused to her. "As a mark of our regret we have agreed to pay Ms. Kidman damages for libel and to pay her legal costs." Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die
Works for me. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder S I am not arguing the legality. Or the need for the law to be as it is. Only that in this case I believe that the husband is being a prick. G Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was Maybe we shouldn't do this, is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
He is funny, but in my esteemed opinion he is an idiot. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? I love Dr. Phil. He is a good ol' boy. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you trust more? http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face1_101603.jpg http://www.infobeat.com/images/divider.gif http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face2_101603.jpg Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ ATTACHMENT part 1.2 image/jpeg name=Face1_101603.jpg ATTACHMENT part 1.3 image/gif name=divider.gif ATTACHMENT part 1.4 image/jpeg name=Face2_101603.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Everything I Need to Know
Everything I need to know about life, I learned from Noah's Ark... One: Don't miss the boat. Two: Remember that we are all in the same boat. Three: Plan ahead. It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark. Four: Stay fit. When you're 600 years old, someone may ask you to do something really big. Five: Don't listen to critics; just get on with the job that needs to be done. Six: Build your future on high ground. Seven: For safety sake, travel in pairs. Eight: Speed isn't always an advantage. The snails were on board with the cheetahs. Nine: When you're stressed, float a while. Ten: Remember, the Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals. Eleven: No matter the storm, when you are with God, there's always a rainbow waiting. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS
What part was it Kellie Martin played on life goes on? Anyway, all through life people have said that we resembled each other. Even hubbys grandmother used to call me Christy when she was on that show. It was weird b/c then at her funeral people were walking up to me calling me Christy b/c thats all they knew me as. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS Kellie Martin (actress) is 28Wendy Wilson (singer) is 34 Flea (musician) is 41 Tim Robbins (actor) is 45 Suzanne Somers (actress) is 57 Chuck Colson (Watergate) is 72 Angela Lansbury (actress) is 78 Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Neither -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die
That's what my husband is afraid would happen in my case. He knows my wishes but I constantly have to make them known to my family b/c they are the type that would come in and try to overrule his decision, which is actually my decision. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder To me part of being married is getting along with the spouses family... or at least having some respect. Charles This I agree with. I think that the husband and the parents should be able to come to an agreement. I can not see over ruling the woman's parents on this matter. I think it is in very poor taste and quite cruel... JMO. Charles I can see over ruling the parents. Because the husband is the next of kin. As I stated before, if my wife made the hard decision to take me off life support there is no way I would want my mother to be able to come and reverse that decision. When I got married I left her house for good, and my wife became my closest relative. While I agree with you that the husband should take their feelings into account, the decision must always remain with the spouse. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
No kidding...and knowing that it was their choice to see her die that way. No...there has to be a more humane way. Laurie --- Tim Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After actually seeing this woman last night I would hate to be her parents and watch the facial expressions of her as she died of starvation and dehydration... It is going to be extreamly hard on them. On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 04:46 AM, Jen -- wrote: shrug All I know is what doctors have said to me in those situations. But I am the first to admit that doctors dont know everything. smile - Original Message - From: Tim Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Not the same . true... but I am not yet convinced that she will suffer no discomfort. On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Jen -- wrote: But it doesnt have the same kind of effects as starving you or I to death would have. - Original Message - From: Greg Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Maybe, but I'm with Laurieit's still starving them to death. That's why it's always bugged me... - Original Message - From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die Actually, the hospice folks here swear that removing the tube is actually more peaceful for the patient than other methods. Their body shuts down and goes to sleep. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:38 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die I have a problem with just stopping the feeding tube. That is starving her to death...nope...can't go with that..but if she is braindead, or in a permanent vegitative state, I can see increasing pain meds and ending her life that wayno suffering. In my opinion, starvation is painful and suffering occurs. Laurie Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails
LOL, how did you ever guess Gary.But I've learned to live with them and when they start really pissing me off, I just delete the emails for a few days. Seems now though I have to defend my title as erotica queen in there so I'm really going to have to work hard at that one, -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:41 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emailsBet you get frustrated at truthpost. LOLGaryIn a message dated 10/15/2003 8:14:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOL yes dear, all the time-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg HopperSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:33 PMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emailsAnd does it produce in you, what it does in me.frustration, andwondering if it's really worth it? ROFL Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
It can also depend on the size of the person you are having sex with. If they are very skinny or have bony hips, just regular sex can cause bruising and soreness. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:15 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... I would think that having a lot of sex with different partners could in some instances make you sore, bruised and even look like if it were one act, to be on the more violent side. I bet most women would tell you that having lots of sex in a short period of time, can leave you sore and tender in that region...and it doesn't have to be aggressive or violent in nature. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that part is true, because it comes straight from the prosecutions witness. The detective on the case said the semen in her panties, the blood, and the pubic hair (which came from a white man) was *NOT* Kobe's. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:51 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If there was indeed semen in her panties that was not his...then she is lying. sounds to me like this girl gets around..maybe she should charge for her services. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really beginning to wonder if he did indeed rape her. I was pretty convinced of his guilt, but even her own testimony makes no sense. According to the detective the semen and pubic hair and blood in her panties was not Bryants. Yet she said she had no other sex after 2 days before. (OK initial reports were 4...) I just am not buying the story. She wore, dirty, wet, bloody panties for 2 days by her own admission? I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephanie Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... If it is true what is she? A lying whoring piece of scum? If it is all true she tried to put someone in jail. I am starting to believe this girl is warped. Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:44:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... In a message dated 10/15/2003 1:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then my statement of it giving Kobe *alot* more credibility is sure true.if you ask me. well if its true then hes not a rapist but hes still a lying cheating piece of crap lol Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Actually I do like Dr. Phil b/c he is Tim McGraws half brother.so so sexy (Tim that is) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? I love Dr. Phil. He is a good ol' boy. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you trust more? http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face1_101603.jpg http://www.infobeat.com/images/divider.gif http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face2_101603.jpg Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ ATTACHMENT part 1.2 image/jpeg name=Face1_101603.jpg ATTACHMENT part 1.3 image/gif name=divider.gif ATTACHMENT part 1.4 image/jpeg name=Face2_101603.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Have anymore choices? Dr. Phil is an idiot, and Dr. Laura is even worse. Gary In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:51:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more? Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS
I know I hated it when she died. Right now the difference between me and her is about 30 lbs, which I'm on my way to losing. Seems we always have similar hairstyles too, LOL. But I'm not making this up, I had lots of people always calling me Becca when Life goes on was on (I remembered her name) and then Christy then Lucy. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:49 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: RE: [Sndbox] TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS I didn't watch life goes on, but Kellie Martin is a certified hottie. I loved her on ER. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AngelaSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:44 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: RE: [Sndbox] TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS What part was it Kellie Martin played on life goes on? Anyway, all through life people have said that we resembled each other. Even hubbys grandmother used to call me Christy when she was on that show. It was weird b/c then at her funeral people were walking up to me calling me Christy b/c thats all they knew me as. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS TODAY'S CELEBRITY BIRTHDAYS Kellie Martin (actress) is 28Wendy Wilson (singer) is 34 Flea (musician) is 41 Tim Robbins (actor) is 45 Suzanne Somers (actress) is 57 Chuck Colson (Watergate) is 72 Angela Lansbury (actress) is 78 Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Barbarella Update
Subject: [milliways-L] Barbarella Update Screenwriter John August, who wrote two Barbarella spec scripts for producer/star Drew Barrymore, told SCI FI Wire that the project is back on after a hiatus of two years. I went through two drafts about two years ago, between the first Charlie's [Angels] and the second Charlie's, August said in an interview. I got busy, and then Drew got busy, and Laura Ziskin, the other producer, got busy. And we all went our separate ways. So we're just now coming back together and figuring out what we have and what kind of movie we want to make. August said that he's a fan of the character. I think Barbarella is a great trippy character, and the story that we're really telling is kind of a fable itself, he said. This is unbelievably pretentious, but it's sort of like Candide in space, where you have this very naive character who bumbles through everything and ends up changing the world by accident. August added that this Barbarella will not resemble Roger Vadim's 1968 movie, which starred Jane Fonda. Rather, it will be based on the original French comic books. We don't have the rights to the original Barbarella [film], August said. So not only is it not like the original Barbarella, it's deliberately and legally not very much like the original Barbarella, because we don't have the rights to that movie. [The comics are] Barbarella and the Mirror of Storms and I don't even remember [the other]. What's weird is both those comic books are only in French, so I've only read the translations. You can just say they're based on two untranslated French comic books of Barbarella. Barrymore is still attached to star. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] ] NBC Orders Full Season of Las Vegas
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - In Las Vegas, 22 is usually the last number you want to hit. It's coming up lucky, however, for the series Las Vegas. NBC has picked up the freshman drama for a full season of 22 episodes. It's the first new drama this fall to get a full-season pickup, although it seems likely that CBS will commit to Cold Case, Navy NCIS and Joan of Arcadia before too long. It's no secret that 'Las Vegas' has been very good luck for NBC on Monday nights since its premiere, and the public wants more of the glitz and glamour, NBC Entertainment President Jeff Zucker says. We feel this series is only just beginning to gain traction and has unlimited potential through the rest of the year. The series ranks fourth among new dramas in total viewers (behind the three CBS shows mentioned above), averaging about 11.5 million in its first four weeks. Monday's (Oct. 13) episode held its own against FOX's baseball playoff coverage and ABC's Monday Night Football, drawing about 10.8 million people. More important to NBC, Las Vegas is the highest-rated new drama of the season among adults 18-49. It's averaged a 4.6 rating in the demographic, which advertisers target and NBC uses as its measure of success. The series stars James Caan as head of security at a high-end Vegas resort and Josh Duhamel as his protege. Nikki Cox, Vanessa Marcil, James Lesure, Marsha Thomason and Molly Sims round out the cast. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Barbarella Update
In a message dated 10/16/2003 8:02:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: [milliways-L] "Barbarella" Update I liked the original Barbarella. H...would be nice to see Drew in the remake of it. LOL Gary Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:47:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He is funny, but in my esteemed opinion he is an idiot. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Alright Charles!! Thank you for your support. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stoppedis that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was Maybe we shouldn't do this, is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails
LOL I hope not. I'm getting Wal-Mart sex stories right now off a website. Might even post a few of my own stories and see if that helps any. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emailsIn a message dated 10/16/2003 7:58:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOL, how did you ever guess Gary.But I've learned to live with them and when they start really pissing me off, I just delete the emails for a few days. Seems now though I have to defend my title as erotica queen in there so I'm really going to have to work hard at that one, I'm beginning to have fun, but waiting and watching for my chance to really get them fired up. I don't think you will have any problem being the ultimate erotica queen. LOLGary Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
If they were already having sex and she said no and he stopped when she said no, then IMO it isn't rape. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stoppedis that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was Maybe we shouldn't do this, is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Keys
IF YOU WERE GIVEN THE KEY TO ANY DOOR IN THE WORLD, WHAT KEY WOULD YOU CHOOSE? Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Sen. Jay Rockefeller looked shocked
Sen. Jay Rockefeller looked shocked Posted: October 15, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern 2003WorldNetDaily.com He had expected to say anything he wanted and escape without challenge. But Fox News Channel's Tony Snow had a different idea. Snow thought it might be interesting to stick to the facts for a change. This Sunday past, Sen. Rockefeller took a play from the Terry McAuliffe playbook and simply invented a convenient history. He told Snow and a national television audience that President Bush has alarmed the nation with a speech warning that an attack from Iraq was imminent. Snow coolly played a tape of the president's State of the Union speech where he in fact said exactly the opposite. Bush warned the Congress that the United States could not wait for a threat to become imminent, to appear suddenly and without warning. Snow then read from a speech that Rockefeller himself had given, one in which the West Virginia Democrat had proclaimed the threat from Iraq to be imminent. Sen. Rockefeller was exposed and embarrassed and babbled on incoherently about what an average American should have inferred from the president's speech. I think he was close to proclaiming psychic powers when the interview mercifully for him ended. Finally, a Democratic critic of the president had been obliged to confront the facts. It doesn't happen too often. On the same day, Slow Joe Biden was allowed by Tim Russert to repeatedly dodge the hard questions such as why he had voted for the war in Iraq if it seemed like a bad idea to him now. Few can filibuster like Joe, however, and Russert didn't corner him. The Democrats need cornering right now, especially on the Kay Report. It has become an intonation from the left that David Kay's catalog of horrors represents a huge setback for the administration when in fact it is an eye-opening and verdict-sealing litany of the many threats Saddam posed to the world. The infrastructure and production of banned weapons is documented, as is the last minute rush to destroy the evidence and conceal the trail. The factually-minded, however, have all the evidence they need. Saddam routinely and thoroughly violated the U.N. resolutions. He routinely pursued and likely possessed a wide array of the world's deadliest weapons. His ambitions in this area were enormous. His regime would never have "evolved," and his brutal sons would have been even more dangerous than the father. Of 130 massive weapons depots, we have searched 10. Even the summary of the report goes on at length with details of this sort. Democrats and their allies in the media are attempting the biggest spin since Clinton's declaration of chastity toward Ms. Lewinsky. They are saying that David Kay has produced no proof of Saddam's threat. From that premise, they launch into attacks on the war in Iraq, even when those attacks, like Rockefeller's, depend on obvious lies. It doesn't take much to expose this tactic and to demonstrate the agenda. But it does take questioners willing to embarrass powerful Democrats, and it does take a press corps willing to read the reports that brave men and women have prepared. The American voter will not be fooled by the double talk and posturing of Democrats eager to return to power by any means. But it remains alarming that elite media are so intent on assisting in their return that they will ignore and distort even chapter and verse on the evils of Saddam's regime. Recall that late in 2002, Saddam produced a detailed report for the U.N. that purported to prove his compliance with all U.N. resolutions. Recall as well how closely reported the production of that report was, and how many thought the report combined with the return of inspectors to Iraq would protect Iraq from invasion. David Kay has now conclusively given the lie to all the theatrics of late 2002 and early 2003, to the ego of Blix and the maneuvers of the French. There is overwhelming proof that all of the forces of appeasement then were wrong. It is startling and shameful that instead of trumpeting this evidence of American justice and wisdom, Democrats are joining with European critics to question the predicate for the war. Even if this turned out to be shrewd politics, it would still be reckless. And it is likely to be the opposite of shrewd when Americans vote in 13 months. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Keys
The door key to my dream car that also works in the ignition :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Keys IF YOU WERE GIVEN THE KEY TO ANY DOOR IN THE WORLD, WHAT KEY WOULD YOU CHOOSE? Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
I'm beginning to lean that way myself. Neil and I were discussing this on the drive to take him to work yesterday. It's just so far the stuff the prosecution has presented doesn't show the *victim* in a favorable light. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:17 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... The more of the prosecution's case I hear (remember, the defense isn't allowed to present evidence, only cross-examine---this is *ALL* the prosecution's case that took place yesterday) the more I think he's innocent. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:10 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If they were already having sex and she said no and he stopped when she said no, then IMO it isn't rape. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stoppedis that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was Maybe we shouldn't do this, is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you
RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
LOL...why am I not surprised that you would think this? His wisdom and advice is mainly common sense though...and most of the time, he is right on the money. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is funny, but in my esteemed opinion he is an idiot. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? I love Dr. Phil. He is a good ol' boy. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you trust more? http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face1_101603.jpg http://www.infobeat.com/images/divider.gif http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face2_101603.jpg Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ ATTACHMENT part 1.2 image/jpeg name=Face1_101603.jpg ATTACHMENT part 1.3 image/gif name=divider.gif ATTACHMENT part 1.4 image/jpeg name=Face2_101603.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
yep...has to be enough to establish reasonable doubt. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think, just from the prosecution witnesses, that there are enough holes to make any sane person see reasonable doubt. Now I'm reading that the defense has a witness that is an employee at the hotel who encountered the victim immediately after the encounter and noted that she was not upset, was not disheveled, was not bleeding or apparently injured, and acted normally. It does make one wonder you know. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:15 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... I would think that having a lot of sex with different partners could in some instances make you sore, bruised and even look like if it were one act, to be on the more violent side. I bet most women would tell you that having lots of sex in a short period of time, can leave you sore and tender in that region...and it doesn't have to be aggressive or violent in nature. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that part is true, because it comes straight from the prosecutions witness. The detective on the case said the semen in her panties, the blood, and the pubic hair (which came from a white man) was *NOT* Kobe's. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:51 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If there was indeed semen in her panties that was not his...then she is lying. sounds to me like this girl gets around..maybe she should charge for her services. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really beginning to wonder if he did indeed rape her. I was pretty convinced of his guilt, but even her own testimony makes no sense. According to the detective the semen and pubic hair and blood in her panties was not Bryants. Yet she said she had no other sex after 2 days before. (OK initial reports were 4...) I just am not buying the story. She wore, dirty, wet, bloody panties for 2 days by her own admission? I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephanie Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... If it is true what is she? A lying whoring piece of scum? If it is all true she tried to put someone in jail. I am starting to believe this girl is warped. Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion List mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:44:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... In a message dated 10/15/2003 1:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then my statement of it giving Kobe *alot* more credibility is sure true.if you ask me. well if its true then hes not a rapist but hes still a lying cheating piece of crap lol Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. === message truncated ===
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Yeah, can you imagine how the jury may look at it when the defense starts presenting stuff if the prosecutor's stuff is already against her? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:21 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... I'm beginning to lean that way myself. Neil and I were discussing this on the drive to take him to work yesterday. It's just so far the stuff the prosecution has presented doesn't show the *victim* in a favorable light. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:17 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... The more of the prosecution's case I hear (remember, the defense isn't allowed to present evidence, only cross-examine---this is *ALL* the prosecution's case that took place yesterday) the more I think he's innocent. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:10 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If they were already having sex and she said no and he stopped when she said no, then IMO it isn't rape. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stoppedis that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was Maybe we shouldn't do this, is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to
Re: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps
$103 fine for wearing a baseball cap in a cab? lol Unreal. - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:05 AM Subject: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps By LYDA LONGA Staff Writer Last update: 16 October 2003 DAYTONA BEACH -- Joseph Young noticed it was raining as he left for work on Oct. 1 -- so he donned his Boston Red Sox ball cap. That decision cost Young, a cab driver who works double shifts to make ends meet, $103. The cabbie, a driver for All-Florida Cab, Shuttle and Limo here, said he was not aware that he was breaking any laws by wearing a baseball cap inside his cab. "This is so stupid," Young said earlier this week. After only four months on the job at All Florida, Young found out the hard way about a city ordinance that regulates the appearance of cab drivers. Such laws are also on the books in other cities across the country. Dave Durante, a supervisor at All Florida, said all his drivers are told up front that baseball caps are out, but Young said he doesn't remember the admonition. On Oct. 1, he was parked along the curb at the intersection of Grandview Avenue and Seabreeze Boulevard when a Daytona Beach officer sidled up to his cab. According to a police report, the officer noticed Young was parked illegally -- then spotted Young's Red Sox cap. "He gave me a $40 ticket for parking along the yellow line," Young said. "The cap ticket was $103." Baseball might be as American as apple pie, but baseball caps -- and a few other specific items of apparel -- are not, in Daytona Beach. Part-time Daytona Beach resident Betty Monaco said she feels the cabbie dress code is paramount. "I think baseball caps, especially when worn backwards, do not look good," said Monaco, who wore a smart corduroy, cream-colored blazer and dark slacks as she boarded a Yellow Cab at the airport Wednesday. "I like to see a well-dressed taxi cab driver." Deputy City Manager Paul McKitrick, who helped amend the taxi driver-appearance ordinance in 1995, said company owners and the city wanted to improve cabbies' looks. "There were too many cab drivers in the city wearing baseball-type caps, and it gave a slovenly appearance," McKitrick said. "The thought was that they did not look professional." The municipal ordinance that emerged is brief but packs a punch, according to cab company owner Tony Ciulla. The fact that the ordinance does not rule out other types of hats -- such as cowboy hats, straw hats, beanies, etc. -- really irks Ciulla. "I think if a cabbie was wearing a straw hat inside his cab, he would look like a dork," said Ciulla, owner of Southern Komfort Taxi. Ciulla says he is also upset that cabbies can't wear T-shirts. Cut-off shorts and swimsuits are also illegal, as are sandals. Young can take some solace. Other cities around the country have their own standards for cab-driver attire. It's illegal to dress like Elvis while you drive a cab in Seattle. And cabbies in St. Louis must wear black pants, black shoes and white shirts. If you're a taxi driver in Philadelphia, make sure you're wearing socks before you turn on the meter. And in Chicago, where some cabbies must don khaki pants and polo shirts, umbrellas are a required accessory to keep passengers dry in the lousy Midwestern weather. Daytona Beach cab driver Mitch Moore has a problem with penalties that can slam cabbies if they're not mindful of their wardrobe. "There's nothing wrong with trying to maintain a standard for drivers, but I think they're picking on people who don't make that much money to begin with," Moore said. As far as Young is concerned, the whole issue is much ado about nothing. "I usually wear a cap when it's rainy out," he said. "That's all." Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
If that's the case, along with the otherhe didn't rape her plain and simple. I wasn't sure in the beginning and wavered back and forth but leaned toward gulity...I'm like you now, seriously starting to think the girl is wacked and he didn't rape her. Call him what you want, but sounds like she's trying to nail a innocent guy. Scary thing is how many were ready to condemn him to the gallows.and looks like he might just have been innocent all along. - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:11 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... I just heard a new report. The detective said that when they interviewed her she said she didn't think she told him no. It was only in later interviews the story became that she told him no several times and cried. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:56 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was "Maybe we shouldn't do this", is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps
Ditto and a fine for it, much less $103 is beyond stupid - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps Ok, I can agree with the cab company making a rule like this, but it is not any of the city's business. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps By LYDA LONGA Staff Writer Last update: 16 October 2003 DAYTONA BEACH -- Joseph Young noticed it was raining as he left for work on Oct. 1 -- so he donned his Boston Red Sox ball cap. That decision cost Young, a cab driver who works double shifts to make ends meet, $103. The cabbie, a driver for All-Florida Cab, Shuttle and Limo here, said he was not aware that he was breaking any laws by wearing a baseball cap inside his cab. "This is so stupid," Young said earlier this week. After only four months on the job at All Florida, Young found out the hard way about a city ordinance that regulates the appearance of cab drivers. Such laws are also on the books in other cities across the country. Dave Durante, a supervisor at All Florida, said all his drivers are told up front that baseball caps are out, but Young said he doesn't remember the admonition. On Oct. 1, he was parked along the curb at the intersection of Grandview Avenue and Seabreeze Boulevard when a Daytona Beach officer sidled up to his cab. According to a police report, the officer noticed Young was parked illegally -- then spotted Young's Red Sox cap. "He gave me a $40 ticket for parking along the yellow line," Young said. "The cap ticket was $103." Baseball might be as American as apple pie, but baseball caps -- and a few other specific items of apparel -- are not, in Daytona Beach. Part-time Daytona Beach resident Betty Monaco said she feels the cabbie dress code is paramount. "I think baseball caps, especially when worn backwards, do not look good," said Monaco, who wore a smart corduroy, cream-colored blazer and dark slacks as she boarded a Yellow Cab at the airport Wednesday. "I like to see a well-dressed taxi cab driver." Deputy City Manager Paul McKitrick, who helped amend the taxi driver-appearance ordinance in 1995, said company owners and the city wanted to improve cabbies' looks. "There were too many cab drivers in the city wearing baseball-type caps, and it gave a slovenly appearance," McKitrick said. "The thought was that they did not look professional." The municipal ordinance that emerged is brief but packs a punch, according to cab company owner Tony Ciulla. The fact that the ordinance does not rule out other types of hats -- such as cowboy hats, straw hats, beanies, etc. -- really irks Ciulla. "I think if a cabbie was wearing a straw hat inside his cab, he would look like a dork," said Ciulla, owner of Southern Komfort Taxi. Ciulla says he is also upset that cabbies can't wear T-shirts. Cut-off shorts and swimsuits are also illegal, as are sandals. Young can take some solace. Other cities around the country have their own standards for cab-driver attire. It's illegal to dress like Elvis while you drive a cab in Seattle. And cabbies in St. Louis must wear black pants, black shoes and white shirts. If you're a taxi driver in Philadelphia, make sure you're wearing socks before you turn on the meter. And in Chicago, where some cabbies must don khaki pants and polo shirts, umbrellas are a required accessory to keep passengers dry in the lousy Midwestern weather. Daytona Beach cab driver Mitch Moore has a problem with penalties that can slam cabbies if they're not mindful of their wardrobe. "There's nothing wrong with trying to maintain a standard for drivers, but I think they're picking on people who don't make that much money to begin with," Moore said. As far as Young is concerned, the whole issue is much ado about nothing. "I usually wear a cap when it's rainy out," he said. "That's all." Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail,
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
When does the defense start presenting stuff? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:47 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Yeah, can you imagine how the jury may look at it when the defense starts presenting stuff if the prosecutor's stuff is already against her? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:21 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... I'm beginning to lean that way myself. Neil and I were discussing this on the drive to take him to work yesterday. It's just so far the stuff the prosecution has presented doesn't show the *victim* in a favorable light. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:17 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... The more of the prosecution's case I hear (remember, the defense isn't allowed to present evidence, only cross-examine---this is *ALL* the prosecution's case that took place yesterday) the more I think he's innocent. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:10 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If they were already having sex and she said no and he stopped when she said no, then IMO it isn't rape. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stoppedis that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was Maybe we shouldn't do this, is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Uhhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can
Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails
I feel your pain, I feel your pain lol - Original Message - From: Angela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails LOL, I knew what you were talking about. Actually I'm biting my tongue right now on another list wanting to really go off on something, but its not even worth the argument. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:30 PM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails Makes two of us. ROFL ( I'm talking about the list this came from btw, not THIS one lol ) - Original Message - From: Angela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails LOL yes dear, all the time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:33 PM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails And does it produce in you, what it does in me.frustration, and wondering if it's really worth it? ROFL Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails
Thanks Gary. :D ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails In a message dated 10/15/2003 6:49:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OMG!! They must be the same ones on the Bush group!! I am only a member there and have had people reply on one of my emails telling me to stop emailing them or they will report me.LMAO!!~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I'm still trying to figure out any relevancy at Truthpost. Oh, hey Bethany welcome.Gary Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps
I'd have no problem with it if it were the cab company levying the fine, but a city ordinance violation is out of line. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg HopperSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:02 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps $103 fine for wearing a baseball cap in a cab? lol Unreal. - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:05 AM Subject: [Sndbox] City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps City puts lid on cabbies wearing caps By LYDA LONGA Staff Writer Last update: 16 October 2003 DAYTONA BEACH -- Joseph Young noticed it was raining as he left for work on Oct. 1 -- so he donned his Boston Red Sox ball cap. That decision cost Young, a cab driver who works double shifts to make ends meet, $103. The cabbie, a driver for All-Florida Cab, Shuttle and Limo here, said he was not aware that he was breaking any laws by wearing a baseball cap inside his cab. "This is so stupid," Young said earlier this week. After only four months on the job at All Florida, Young found out the hard way about a city ordinance that regulates the appearance of cab drivers. Such laws are also on the books in other cities across the country. Dave Durante, a supervisor at All Florida, said all his drivers are told up front that baseball caps are out, but Young said he doesn't remember the admonition. On Oct. 1, he was parked along the curb at the intersection of Grandview Avenue and Seabreeze Boulevard when a Daytona Beach officer sidled up to his cab. According to a police report, the officer noticed Young was parked illegally -- then spotted Young's Red Sox cap. "He gave me a $40 ticket for parking along the yellow line," Young said. "The cap ticket was $103." Baseball might be as American as apple pie, but baseball caps -- and a few other specific items of apparel -- are not, in Daytona Beach. Part-time Daytona Beach resident Betty Monaco said she feels the cabbie dress code is paramount. "I think baseball caps, especially when worn backwards, do not look good," said Monaco, who wore a smart corduroy, cream-colored blazer and dark slacks as she boarded a Yellow Cab at the airport Wednesday. "I like to see a well-dressed taxi cab driver." Deputy City Manager Paul McKitrick, who helped amend the taxi driver-appearance ordinance in 1995, said company owners and the city wanted to improve cabbies' looks. "There were too many cab drivers in the city wearing baseball-type caps, and it gave a slovenly appearance," McKitrick said. "The thought was that they did not look professional." The municipal ordinance that emerged is brief but packs a punch, according to cab company owner Tony Ciulla. The fact that the ordinance does not rule out other types of hats -- such as cowboy hats, straw hats, beanies, etc. -- really irks Ciulla. "I think if a cabbie was wearing a straw hat inside his cab, he would look like a dork," said Ciulla, owner of Southern Komfort Taxi. Ciulla says he is also upset that cabbies can't wear T-shirts. Cut-off shorts and swimsuits are also illegal, as are sandals. Young can take some solace. Other cities around the country have their own standards for cab-driver attire. It's illegal to dress like Elvis while you drive a cab in Seattle. And cabbies in St. Louis must wear black pants, black shoes and white shirts. If you're a taxi driver in Philadelphia, make sure you're wearing socks before you turn on the meter. And in Chicago, where some cabbies must don khaki pants and polo shirts, umbrellas are a required accessory to keep passengers dry in the lousy Midwestern weather. Daytona Beach cab driver Mitch Moore has a problem with penalties that can slam cabbies if they're not mindful of their wardrobe. "There's nothing wrong with trying to maintain a standard for drivers, but I think they're picking on people who don't make that much money to begin with," Moore said. As far as Young is concerned, the whole issue is much ado about nothing. "I usually wear a cap when it's rainy out," he said. "That's all." Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
When it comes to trial. The defense is not allowed to present evidence in a prelim. They can cross examine, but not present new evidence. That's what the prosecution is all upset about. They say the questioning brought into evidence that shouldn't be brought into play yet. BUT, it is evidence that makes the prosecution look as if they are trying to hang it on Kobe instead of looking for the unidentified male whose fluids were actually in the woman's panties. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:53 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... When does the defense start presenting stuff? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:47 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Yeah, can you imagine how the jury may look at it when the defense starts presenting stuff if the prosecutor's stuff is already against her? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:21 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... I'm beginning to lean that way myself. Neil and I were discussing this on the drive to take him to work yesterday. It's just so far the stuff the prosecution has presented doesn't show the *victim* in a favorable light. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:17 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... The more of the prosecution's case I hear (remember, the defense isn't allowed to present evidence, only cross-examine---this is *ALL* the prosecution's case that took place yesterday) the more I think he's innocent. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:10 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If they were already having sex and she said no and he stopped when she said no, then IMO it isn't rape. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stoppedis that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was Maybe we shouldn't do this, is that clearly no? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. - Original Message - From: Stephanie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi ---Original Message--- From: The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe she had sex after Kobe. David L. Ben Franklin: Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails
That better be all you are feeling Greg, LOL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:08 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails I feel your pain, I feel your pain lol - Original Message - From: Angela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails LOL, I knew what you were talking about. Actually I'm biting my tongue right now on another list wanting to really go off on something, but its not even worth the argument. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:30 PM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails Makes two of us. ROFL ( I'm talking about the list this came from btw, not THIS one lol ) - Original Message - From: Angela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Sandbox Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails LOL yes dear, all the time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:33 PM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Fw: The importance of misc. reply emails And does it produce in you, what it does in me.frustration, and wondering if it's really worth it? ROFL Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
We will see Monday. I think I would toss it out. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... I'm seriously wondering if it will even make it to trial now. -- Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Well why do they feel it shouldn't be brought into play yet. Why waste the tax payers money on a trial if there doesn't need to be one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... When it comes to trial. The defense is not allowed to present evidence in a prelim. They can cross examine, but not present new evidence. That's what the prosecution is all upset about. They say the questioning brought into evidence that shouldn't be brought into play yet. BUT, it is evidence that makes the prosecution look as if they are trying to hang it on Kobe instead of looking for the unidentified male whose fluids were actually in the woman's panties. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:53 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... When does the defense start presenting stuff? Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
If the judge has any sense it will be tossed out. Seems to me she either had sex or was raped by someone else and is trying to pin it on Kobe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:06 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... We will see Monday. I think I would toss it out. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... I'm seriously wondering if it will even make it to trial now. -- Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Zipadee-Doo-Dah
Zipadee-Doo-Dah Zip a dee do dah, zip a dee eh, My oh my, what a wonderful day Plenty of sunshine heading my way, Zip a dee do dah, zip a dee eh. Mister bluebird on my shoulder, It's the truth, it's actual, Everything is set is factual. Zip a dee do dah, zip a dee eh, Wonderful feeling, wonderful day. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
Well, even if it is tossed, she can still sue him for civil damages and possibly win because reasonable doubt isn't the standard. Let's say she did have sex with him (he admits it, so it's a safe assumption), let's further *speculate* she had sex with a bellhop. The bellhop raped (or at the very least was rough enough to injure her) her. Which would be the juicer target for the inevitable civil case? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:02 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If the judge has any sense it will be tossed out. Seems to me she either had sex or was raped by someone else and is trying to pin it on Kobe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:06 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... We will see Monday. I think I would toss it out. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... I'm seriously wondering if it will even make it to trial now. -- Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Name the tune
I cant get it to open -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:08 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Name the tune Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
That's why I said she would try to pin it on Kobe. She can get money out of him, or at least more than she could someone else. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:13 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Well, even if it is tossed, she can still sue him for civil damages and possibly win because reasonable doubt isn't the standard. Let's say she did have sex with him (he admits it, so it's a safe assumption), let's further *speculate* she had sex with a bellhop. The bellhop raped (or at the very least was rough enough to injure her) her. Which would be the juicer target for the inevitable civil case? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:02 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... If the judge has any sense it will be tossed out. Seems to me she either had sex or was raped by someone else and is trying to pin it on Kobe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:06 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... We will see Monday. I think I would toss it out. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hopper Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... I'm seriously wondering if it will even make it to trial now. -- Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Who said?
"The key to being a good manager keeping the people who hate me away from those who are still undecided."Billy MartinCasey StengelWoody Hayes Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Can Antidiscrimination Laws Corrupt Religious Schools?
Can Antidiscrimination Laws Corrupt Religious Schools? Wednesday, October 15, 2003 By David E. Bernstein Editor's Note: The article below is excerpted from the author's new book,"You Can't Say That! The Growing Threat to Civil Liberties from Antidiscrimination Laws" (Cato Institute, 2003) Antidiscrimination laws (search)are colliding with civil liberties at many levels -- on the job, in public spaces, and on campuses. Left-wing egalitarian activists are pushing hard to eliminate every perceived slight, offense, injustice and politically incorrect action they can identify. At religious schools the conflict is intense, as the examples below show--and it's sparking more court battles that have yet to settle the problem. The First Amendment (search)protects the free exercise of religion and prohibits governmental establishment of religion. The Constitution prohibits the government from interfering in the hiring and firing of ''ministerial'' church employees, including religion teachers at church-sponsored schools. However, courts have held that antidiscrimination laws can still regulate the employment of teachers of secular subjects in religious schools. One such teacher, Linda Hoskinson, felt a calling to teach in Christian schools. She found employment as a grade school instructor at Dayton Christian Schools (search), an affiliate of two of Dayton, Ohio's strict fundamentalist churches. DCS sought to employ only teachers who would ''carry with them into their classes the religious fervor and conviction felt necessary to stimulate young minds into accepting Christ as savior.'' Hoskinson seemed to have found her niche. However, when Hoskinson informed the DCS administration that she and her husband were expecting a baby, she was told that her contract would not be renewed. The school's sponsoring churches believe that mothers of young children should not be employed outside of the home, so continuing to employ Hoskinson would flout church doctrine. Hoskinson consulted an attorney, who informed DCS that it was violating Hoskinson's rights under federal and state antidiscrimination laws, even though DCS had accepted no government funding. DCS responded by immediately firing Hoskinson for violating the ''Biblical Chain of Command (search)," a belief adhered to by some Christian sects, including DCS's sponsors, that all disputes among members of the church should be resolved within the church. Like all DCS employees, Hoskinson had agreed in her contract to abide by the Biblical Chain of Command, but had broken that agreement when she took her problems with church policy to an outside lawyer. Hoskinson filed a sex discrimination complaint with the Ohio Civil Rights Commission. The commission investigated, and urged DCS to sign a settlement agreement that stipulated, among other things, that contrary to DCS's belief in resolving disputes within the church, DCS "shall make clear in its employment contracts that employees may contact the Commission if they believe they are being discriminated against at any time." When DCS received the proposed agreement, it filed a suit in federal court asking that the court protect DCS's free exercise of religion by prohibiting the commission from investigating and prosecuting the school. The court rejected DCS's free exercise claim, reasoning that the commission's enforcement of Ohio's antidiscrimination law placed only ''a minimal burden'' on the plaintiffs' free exercise rights. No mothers with young children would be forced to work; DCS needed only to refrain from firing Hoskinson. The court did not address the plaintiffs' claim that by forcing DCS to employ a teacher who disobeyed church teachings, the law threatened the plaintiffs' ability to impress upon the students the importance of church doctrine. Although the court downplayed the importance of the case to the plaintiffs, it found that the state had a compelling interest in eliminating ''all forms of discrimination,'' and in preventing young people from being educated ''in an atmosphere of discrimination.'' An appeals court reversed the lower court decision, finding that the Commission's investigation violated the plaintiffs' free exercise rights, and that those rights were not trumped by the government's interest in eradicating discrimination. The commission appealed to the Supreme Court. The case divided liberal civil libertarian organizations. The American Civil Liberties Union sided with the commission, while Americans United for the Separation of Church and State supported the school's position. The Supreme Court ultimately sidestepped the civil liberties issue by reversing the appeals court on the grounds that the federal courts should not have interfered in ongoing state proceedings. Finally, after DCS had spent more than $100,000 defending itself, Hoskinson dropped her lawsuit. Hoskinson, who in the meantime had given birth to three children, and
[Sndbox] Malaysian Leader: 'Jews Rule World by Proxy'
Malaysian Leader: 'Jews Rule World by Proxy' Thursday, October 16, 2003 PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad (search)on Thursday told a summit of Islamic leaders that "Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using non-violent means for a "final victory. His speech at the Organization of the Islamic Conference (search)summit, which he was hosting, drew criticism from Jewish leaders, who warned it could spark more violence against Jews. Mahathir, who is known for his outspoken, anti-Western rhetoric, criticized what he described as Jewish domination of the world and Muslim nations' inability to adequately respond to it as he opened the meeting of Islamic leaders from 57 nations. "The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," Mahathir said. "They get others to fight and die for them." Malaysia, a democratic nation which has a large non-Muslim population and does not enforce strict Islamic law, has long been a critic of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories and of U.S. policy in the Middle East, including the war in Iraq and its strong backing of the Jewish state. Mahathir, 77, who is retiring on Oct. 31, has used almost every international podium to lambaste the West for two decades, winning a reputation as an outspoken champion of Third World causes. "For well over half a century we have fought over Palestine. What have we achieved? Nothing. We are worse off than before," he said. "If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory." The prime minister, who has turned his country into the world's 17th-ranked trading nation during his 22 years in power, said Jews "invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy" to avoid persecution and gain control of the most powerful countries. Mahathir added that "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews," but he suggested using political and economic tactics instead of violence. Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Jonathan Peled expressed disappointment in the remarks but said he wasn't surprised. "It is not new that in such forums there is always an attempt to reach of the lowest common denominator which is Israel bashing," he said in Jerusalem. "But obviously we'd like to see more moderate and responsible kind of declarations coming out of such summits." Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center (search)in Los Angeles, said Mahathir has used anti-Israel statements in the past to prove he's tough on the West. But, he said, Thursday's speech was still worrisome. "What is profoundly shocking and worrying is the venue of the speech, the audience and coming in the time we're living in," Cooper said during a visit to Jerusalem. "Mahathir's speech today is an absolute invitation for more hate crimes and terrorism against Jews. That's serious." U.S. Ambassador to Malaysia Marie Huhtala declined to comment on Mahathir's speech. Washington was angered over a speech he made in February, as host of the Non-Aligned Movement of 117 countries, in which he described the looming war against Iraq as racist. Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he supported Mahathir's analysis, which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially. "It is great to hear Prime Minister Mahathir speak so eloquently on the problems of the ummah (Muslim world) and ways to remedy them," Karzai said. "His speech was an eye-opener to a lot of us and that is what the Islamic world should do." The summit is the first since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks reshaped global politics and comes at a time when many Muslims -- even U.S. allies -- feel the war on terrorism has become a war against them. "It is well known that the Islamic community is being targeted today more than at any other time before in its creed, culture and social and political orientation," said Qatar's ruler, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who hosted the U.S. headquarters in the Iraq war. The status of Iraq also proved a divisive issue. Malaysia resisted inviting the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council, describing it as a puppet of American occupation. But Arab countries that have recognized the interim body prevailed and council representatives were attending the summit. Leaders attending the summit included Jordan's King Abullah, Syrian President Bashar Assad, Morocco's King Mohammed VI, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri. Russian President Vladimir Putin and Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo are attending as special observers because of their large Muslim minorities. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to
RE: [Sndbox] Who said?
I'm just going to guess b/c I have no clue who any of these guys are. So I'll say Woody Hayes. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:11 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Who said? "The key to being a good manager keeping the people who hate me away from those who are still undecided."Billy MartinCasey StengelWoody Hayes Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who said?
LOL...good guess, but nope. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AngelaSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:26 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: RE: [Sndbox] Who said? I'm just going to guess b/c I have no clue who any of these guys are. So I'll say Woody Hayes. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:11 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Who said? "The key to being a good manager keeping the people who hate me away from those who are still undecided."Billy MartinCasey StengelWoody Hayes Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
Lets not forget that this woman did *not* have a living will... On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:47 AM, Angela wrote: That's what my husband is afraid would happen in my case. He knows my wishes but I constantly have to make them known to my family b/c they are the type that would come in and try to overrule his decision, which is actually my decision. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder To me part of being married is getting along with the spouses family... or at least having some respect. Charles This I agree with. I think that the husband and the parents should be able to come to an agreement. I can not see over ruling the woman's parents on this matter. I think it is in very poor taste and quite cruel... JMO. Charles I can see over ruling the parents. Because the husband is the next of kin. As I stated before, if my wife made the hard decision to take me off life support there is no way I would want my mother to be able to come and reverse that decision. When I got married I left her house for good, and my wife became my closest relative. While I agree with you that the husband should take their feelings into account, the decision must always remain with the spouse. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die
This is true, but if I recall the courts ruled that her declaration to her husband could suffice. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:41 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Lets not forget that this woman did *not* have a living will... Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
No shit? I didn't know that... are you BS ing us Angela? On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Angela wrote: Actually I do like Dr. Phil b/c he is Tim McGraws half brother.so so sexy (Tim that is) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? I love Dr. Phil. He is a good ol' boy. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you trust more? http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face1_101603.jpg http://www.infobeat.com/images/divider.gif http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face2_101603.jpg Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ ATTACHMENT part 1.2 image/jpeg name=Face1_101603.jpg ATTACHMENT part 1.3 image/gif name=divider.gif ATTACHMENT part 1.4 image/jpeg name=Face2_101603.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
I love to listen to the Dr. Laura show. I don't always agree with her, but she is right most of the time and I think helps a lot of people JMO On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have anymore choices? Dr. Phil is an idiot, and Dr. Laura is even worse. Gary In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:51:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more? image.tiff> image.tiff>image.tiff> Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who said?
LOL, well I had a one in three chance of getting it right. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:39 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Who said? LOL...good guess, but nope. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AngelaSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:26 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: RE: [Sndbox] Who said? I'm just going to guess b/c I have no clue who any of these guys are. So I'll say Woody Hayes. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CharlesSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:11 AMTo: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'Subject: [Sndbox] Who said? "The key to being a good manager keeping the people who hate me away from those who are still undecided."Billy MartinCasey StengelWoody Hayes Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
I'm dead serious. They have the same dad, different moms. Tug McGraw is both Tim and Phil's dad. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:43 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? No shit? I didn't know that... are you BS ing us Angela? On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Angela wrote: Actually I do like Dr. Phil b/c he is Tim McGraws half brother.so so sexy (Tim that is) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? I love Dr. Phil. He is a good ol' boy. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you trust more? http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face1_101603.jpg http://www.infobeat.com/images/divider.gif http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face2_101603.jpg Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ ATTACHMENT part 1.2 image/jpeg name=Face1_101603.jpg ATTACHMENT part 1.3 image/gif name=divider.gif ATTACHMENT part 1.4 image/jpeg name=Face2_101603.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Dr. Laura. Dr Phil is pathetic. ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:05 AM Subject: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Name the tune
Feminine ? G> On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:07 AM, Charles wrote: Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Thurs.wav> Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Pledge
"Under God" was added in 1954 by Congress and signed by President Eisenhower. ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Tim Harder To: The Sandbox Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Pledge I have heard that God's name was not originally in the pledge.If that is true... that would make it a little easier for these religionhaters to remove it, I would think.On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 03:46 PM, Charles wrote: *standing O*Charles Mimshttp://www.the-sandbox.orgimage.tiff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:40 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Sndbox] PledgeIn a message dated 10/14/03 1:48:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Supreme Court to Decide Pledge Case11 minutes agoThis is becoming so completely just a bunch of s**t. I never say much as you all know, but this is getting on my last nerve. Next it will be that you can't even say the word "God" in a public place. Dammit all, what are these guys thinking!!! I'm just really steamed, so just bare with me!OK, I've got it!! I think it is high time that farting in public be banned, especially during Christmas shopping when lines are long and you have to tough it out because you don't want to get in another line!!! Not only is it toxic and very flammable, but against the clean air statutes I would imagine!I just can't imagine the Supreme Court ever ruling against the "Pledge of Allegiance"!!! How I wish our forefathers could come back to life and defend our constitution and what it stands for. If they rule against it, God help us!! Oh, next the word, God, won't be allowed here!!! Sorry, just really p***ed right now.GaryChanges to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
Well I figured as much since they are going to kill her, but .. I rest my case... G On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:43 AM, Charles wrote: This is true, but if I recall the courts ruled that her declaration to her husband could suffice. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:41 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Lets not forget that this woman did *not* have a living will... Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Pledge
Actually the Pledge originated in 1893 on Columbus Day. The original Pledge was as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.' In 1924, the words "my flag" were changed to "the flag of the United States of America". ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Pledge It was not originally in the pledge, but then again the pledge wasn't the pledge until around 1940 or so. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim HarderSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:37 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Pledge I have heard that God's name was not originally in the pledge.If that is true... that would make it a little easier for these religionhaters to remove it, I would think.On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 03:46 PM, Charles wrote: *standing O*Charles Mimshttp://www.the-sandbox.orgimage.tiff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:40 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Sndbox] PledgeIn a message dated 10/14/03 1:48:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Supreme Court to Decide Pledge Case11 minutes agoThis is becoming so completely just a bunch of s**t. I never say much as you all know, but this is getting on my last nerve. Next it will be that you can't even say the word "God" in a public place. Dammit all, what are these guys thinking!!! I'm just really steamed, so just bare with me!OK, I've got it!! I think it is high time that farting in public be banned, especially during Christmas shopping when lines are long and you have to tough it out because you don't want to get in another line!!! Not only is it toxic and very flammable, but against the clean air statutes I would imagine!I just can't imagine the Supreme Court ever ruling against the "Pledge of Allegiance"!!! How I wish our forefathers could come back to life and defend our constitution and what it stands for. If they rule against it, God help us!! Oh, next the word, God, won't be allowed here!!! Sorry, just really p***ed right now.GaryChanges to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
In a message dated 10/16/2003 6:56:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was "Maybe we shouldn't do this", is that clearly no? its not a yes. how about a rape victim whos been drugged or a rape victim whos drank too much or one whos mouth is covered where they cant say no does that make it less of a rape because they couldnt say no? Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] FW: CNN Breaking News
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RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Did you know that a student ignoring another (giving them the "silent" treatment) is bullying? That's what dr. phil says. Oh, and bringing candy bars, or other goodies in your lunch and not bringing enough for everyone at your table (school children) is bullying. That's what my daughter learned from a Dr. Phil video they were forced to watch in 7th grade. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GOP MommaSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:57 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Dr. Laura. Dr Phil is pathetic. ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:05 AM Subject: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Hence why my comment stands from the other group. Dr. Phil is only useful as litter box liner. I cannot stand the man. It's not surprising Oprah loves him so. gag ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Did you know that a student ignoring another (giving them the "silent" treatment) is bullying? That's what dr. phil says. Oh, and bringing candy bars, or other goodies in your lunch and not bringing enough for everyone at your table (school children) is bullying. That's what my daughter learned from a Dr. Phil video they were forced to watch in 7th grade. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GOP MommaSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:57 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Dr. Laura. Dr Phil is pathetic. ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:05 AM Subject: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Pledge
That's interesting, because I read an article on this controversy the other day and they gave a date like 1942 or 1948 for the pledge. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GOP MommaSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:05 AMTo: The Sandbox Discussion ListSubject: Re: [Sndbox] Pledge Actually the Pledge originated in 1893 on Columbus Day. The original Pledge was as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.' In 1924, the words "my flag" were changed to "the flag of the United States of America". ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Charles To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Pledge It was not originally in the pledge, but then again the pledge wasn't the pledge until around 1940 or so. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org .net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Lara Flynn Boyle's Big Mystery
Lara Flynn Boyle's Big Mystery AP Lara Flynn BoyleGet ready because yet another actor is about to get behind the camera. Lara Flynn Boyle, known for her work as Helen the D.A. on "The Practice" and Donna the ditzy teen on "Twin Peaks" is becoming a director. Boyle -- wearing lots of makeup and looking sultry -- shimmied into the Paris Review party Tuesday night, but kept way out of the way. In fact, if publicist R. Couri Hay hadn't noticed a person "who looks just like Lara Flynn Boyle," we might have all missed her. Jack Nicholson's sometime, one-time girlfriend came to the big literary event with a dark-haired, unidentified young man. She told me was there to see her long time pal Alec Baldwin read a passage from the work of Jack Kerouac from the stage. But Boyle's big, mysterious new project is something she's directing for HBO. Whatever it is -- and no one including her close friends seem to know if it's a comedy, drama or documentary -- starts soon in New York. Eight years ago at the opening of the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas, Boyle, George Clooney and Gina Gershon played a mean game of all-night blackjack with me and Page Six's Richard Johnson. I wondered if Boyle remembered this long ago sojourn. "Yes!" she cried. "And I won you a lot of money if I recall!" And then, perhaps in search of a late night dinner, she disappeared. 'Born Rich' -- and Dumb It's not TV, it's HBO, although Josiah Hornblower's mother doesn't know about it. "She doesn't have HBO," he said last night. "I don't think she even has cable." What a shame, because Hornblower's mother, a descendant of the Whitney-Vanderbilt family, could see her 28-year-old in a new HBO offering called "Born Rich." Billed incorrectly as a documentary -- it isn't, trust me -- "Born Rich" was made by silver spoon owner Jamie Johnson. He's the grandson or something of the founder of Johnson Johnson, and he thought it would be enlightening or fun to make a film about all his young friends who live on inherited wealth. It's too easy to say he was wrong. Critiquing "Born Rich" is like shooting fish in a barrel. You know going in that all the participants will be insipid and stupid, bratty nincompoops who deserve a good whacking and pick-pocketing at the same time. If you accept that, then "Born Rich" is a big success. If not, well, get ready to be snarky. How eye-opening Johnson's film could have been if he were a real filmmaker or at least found one to help him. But you go into "Born Rich" and leave it knowing nothing except that money and youth are wasted on the young. For instance, there's the young Italian whose biggest concern in life is finding a good tailor. He complains that "low lapels" on a suit jacket are gauche. "That's what Clinton had," he says with disgust. Yeah, you want to strangle him, but there are other rocket scientists here to deal with: Ivanka Trump, Luke Weil, Si Newhouse, Georgina Bloomberg (daughter of New York City's mayor), Stephanie Ercklentz, Juliet Hartford, Carlo von Zeitschel, and the truly odious Christina Floyd, daughter of famous golfer Raymond Floyd, among them. (I was disappointed that the biggest society nitwits of all time, Paris and Nikki Hilton, were not in the film. These two dopes were featured on "Oprah" earlier this week along with Johnson, which led me to believe they'd been included. Why there's been no federal legislation banning these two from public appearances is a mystery to me. Check the "Oprah" tape for Paris' inability to remember that the white box in her house with clothes and water in it is called a washing machine.) Of course this group whines about everything. They don't work -- big surprise! But worse than that, they are an uneducated group of louts who only know each other (thank goodness.) Surely the worst moment in the film belongs to Floyd, who describes without any irony, the restricted nature of the Southampton Bath and Tennis Club which remains exclusive of Jews, blacks or minorities of any kind. If Johnson were an actual filmmaker he might have addressed this issue, but he's not. In the end he's one of them and he lets Floyd's moronic and alarming comments float by as if they were no worse than the issue of good tailoring. Johnson misses a lot of other things too. Even though you might think being this stupid is at least mitigated by being really, really rich, there's no indication that the money can vanish as easily as it came. Hartford's father, for example, frittered away an enormous estate, leaving her and her mother in dire straits. This is never explained. Trump, sporting several hair-coloring jobs over a short time, alludes to the financial trouble her father, Donald, experienced in the mid '90s. But this is also glossed over, as are almost any in depth discussion of these kids' parents' multiple marriages, public affairs and other scandals. In the end, the only mildly
Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die
Again I am not arguing... only pointing out that the parents should have a valid bitch. If I were the husband I wouldn't be able to say to the parents No she has to die If there were a living will that said she wanted to die under theses circumstances it might be different. On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:48 AM, Angela wrote: Then unfortunately, it's up to the husband to decide, whether his decision is right or wrong. When no living will is made, it is up to the next of kin. I don't have a living will, but have made my wishes known and still make them known to anyone who will listen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:41 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Lets not forget that this woman did *not* have a living will... On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:47 AM, Angela wrote: That's what my husband is afraid would happen in my case. He knows my wishes but I constantly have to make them known to my family b/c they are the type that would come in and try to overrule his decision, which is actually my decision. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder To me part of being married is getting along with the spouses family... or at least having some respect. Charles This I agree with. I think that the husband and the parents should be able to come to an agreement. I can not see over ruling the woman's parents on this matter. I think it is in very poor taste and quite cruel... JMO. Charles I can see over ruling the parents. Because the husband is the next of kin. As I stated before, if my wife made the hard decision to take me off life support there is no way I would want my mother to be able to come and reverse that decision. When I got married I left her house for good, and my wife became my closest relative. While I agree with you that the husband should take their feelings into account, the decision must always remain with the spouse. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Sheesh! Ol' Tug really got around And had some potent DNA to boot! G On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:52 AM, Angela wrote: I'm dead serious. They have the same dad, different moms. Tug McGraw is both Tim and Phil's dad. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:43 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? No shit? I didn't know that... are you BS ing us Angela? On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Angela wrote: Actually I do like Dr. Phil b/c he is Tim McGraws half brother.so so sexy (Tim that is) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? I love Dr. Phil. He is a good ol' boy. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you trust more? http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face1_101603.jpg http://www.infobeat.com/images/divider.gif http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face2_101603.jpg Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ ATTACHMENT part 1.2 image/jpeg name=Face1_101603.jpg ATTACHMENT part 1.3 image/gif name=divider.gif ATTACHMENT part 1.4 image/jpeg name=Face2_101603.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
We shall see... On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:58 AM, Charles wrote: Not really. The detective said that the victim stated that he stopped when she made her intentions clear. That's not speculation, it's part of the court record. If he stopped, then he didn't rape her. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:50 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... I am enjoying your speculation, Charles, but don't you think you are getting a little ahead of yourself? G On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 07:10 AM, Charles wrote: Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stoppedis that rape? Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
But Jackie you have to have some sort of standard to go by. I'm not advocating that it's ok for someone to drug a gal and rape her, you know I'm not. But if there isn't some sort of standard then rape will never be prosecutable. Either that or anyone can get prosecuted for a serious crime because he makes a girl mad. That's why the recent law passed in one state that says a woman can withdraw consent even while the act is being committed and if he doesn't stop the thrust *immediately* he's raped her is such a dangerous law. There has to be some sort of acknowledgement that the guy in question should at least have the right to expect a clear no. In the case of drugging someone that's not consensual in any manner. In this case both parties admit consent. She even told the detective that he stopped when she made it clear. Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:08 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... In a message dated 10/16/2003 6:56:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was "Maybe we shouldn't do this", is that clearly no? its not a yes. how about a rape victim whos been drugged or a rape victim whos drank too much or one whos mouth is covered where they cant say no does that make it less of a rape because they couldnt say no? Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:41:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would think that having a lot of sex with different partners could in some instances make you sore, bruised and even look like if it were one act, to be on the more violent side. I bet most women would tell you that having lots of sex in a short period of time, can leave you sore and tender in that region...and it doesn't have to be aggressive or violent in nature. i cant answer on alot of partners but on the lot of sex part your not sore or tender if the guy knows what hes doing : Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
[Sndbox] Re: TruthPost: FW: CNN Breaking News
Nice of them... ~*~*Bethany*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Low CarbersHair Pretties~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - Original Message - From: Admiral Suvvuk To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: TruthPost: FW: CNN Breaking News -- U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to adopt U.S.-backed resolutionon Iraq.Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com (AOL Keyword: CNN) for the latestnews.***Earn a degree and advance your career. University of Phoenix offers flexibleprograms designed for busy adults.Click for more information.http://mocda1.com/1/c/267552/121582/295379/295379***To unsubscribe from CNN.com's Breaking News E-Mail Alert, log on to:http://CNN.com/EMAIL/breakingnews.htmlTo sign up for additional e-mail products, go to http://CNN.com/EMAIL(c)2003. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP.An AOL Time Warner Company.All Rights Reserved.CNN Interactive email id:16227105205220610http://www.topica.com/lists/truthpost/http://www.sportscommandments.comhttp://www.liberalscum.com--^This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2i7xv.a7hfXV.R09QX01vOr send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE!http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html--^ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:46:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. Laurie i have no idea if shes lying or not but whether she had alot of sex beforehand should make no diffrence. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die
I somewhat agree with you on that, but in some cases the husband might know the wishes better than the parents. I do think he should talk it over with them, listen to what they think, take it into consideration and then make his decision. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Again I am not arguing... only pointing out that the parents should have a valid bitch. If I were the husband I wouldn't be able to say to the parents No she has to die If there were a living will that said she wanted to die under theses circumstances it might be different. On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:48 AM, Angela wrote: Then unfortunately, it's up to the husband to decide, whether his decision is right or wrong. When no living will is made, it is up to the next of kin. I don't have a living will, but have made my wishes known and still make them known to anyone who will listen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:41 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die Lets not forget that this woman did *not* have a living will... On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:47 AM, Angela wrote: That's what my husband is afraid would happen in my case. He knows my wishes but I constantly have to make them known to my family b/c they are the type that would come in and try to overrule his decision, which is actually my decision. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:11 AM To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Right to Die From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder To me part of being married is getting along with the spouses family... or at least having some respect. Charles This I agree with. I think that the husband and the parents should be able to come to an agreement. I can not see over ruling the woman's parents on this matter. I think it is in very poor taste and quite cruel... JMO. Charles I can see over ruling the parents. Because the husband is the next of kin. As I stated before, if my wife made the hard decision to take me off life support there is no way I would want my mother to be able to come and reverse that decision. When I got married I left her house for good, and my wife became my closest relative. While I agree with you that the husband should take their feelings into account, the decision must always remain with the spouse. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
Re: [Sndbox] Breaking...
In a message dated 10/16/2003 7:46:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think, just from the prosecution witnesses, that there are enough holes to make any sane person see reasonable doubt. Now I'm reading that the defense has a witness that is an employee at the hotel who encountered the victim immediately after the encounter and noted that she was not upset, was not disheveled, was not bleeding or apparently injured, and acted normally. It does make one wonder you know. the thing here though is not to establish reasonable doubt at a hearing the hearing is suppose to see if there is enough evidence to go to trial. at least thats what a normal hearing is for. Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
RE: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more?
Yeah seriously. I know he did pretty good with Tim :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:13 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? Sheesh! Ol' Tug really got around And had some potent DNA to boot! G On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 09:52 AM, Angela wrote: I'm dead serious. They have the same dad, different moms. Tug McGraw is both Tim and Phil's dad. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:43 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? No shit? I didn't know that... are you BS ing us Angela? On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Angela wrote: Actually I do like Dr. Phil b/c he is Tim McGraws half brother.so so sexy (Tim that is) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laurie Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:12 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Who do you trust more? I love Dr. Phil. He is a good ol' boy. Laurie --- Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you trust more? http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face1_101603.jpg http://www.infobeat.com/images/divider.gif http://www.infobeat.com/entimages1/Face2_101603.jpg Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org http://www.the-sandbox.org/ ATTACHMENT part 1.2 image/jpeg name=Face1_101603.jpg ATTACHMENT part 1.3 image/gif name=divider.gif ATTACHMENT part 1.4 image/jpeg name=Face2_101603.jpg Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net = I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity. --Gilda Radner __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
