Re: [RCSE] Aileron/Rudder mixing
Rodger, You asked, When using A/R mixing, can you still use rudder independently? also I have a futaba 6 xa, not with specific sailplane programsbut programmable...for example if I wanted "Crow" for landing, would it still be possible? during crow, how are ailerons functioning? Are they full up and flaps full down, and are you controlling yaw and roll with rudder alone? = I have a Futaba 8UAF, so I can't intelligently comment on what you can do with the 6XA. "Crow" or "Butterfly" is available on the 8UAF. Don Edberg's book on the 8-channel radios describes how to do the set up and why the controls need to be set up certain ways. He may also have suggestions on the 6XA. With A/R mixing, the right stick gives the programmed amount of rudder coupling. The left stick can be used to add to the input giving by the right stick. Thus, more (or less rudder) can be added by manipulating the left stick in addition to the right stick. Note: when you have trims, along with multiple switches and levers manipulating a control surface through programmable mixes, the effects of the several different inputs is additive. They don't override each other There are special considerations when the plane is in crow. Because the plane is moving slowly, the ailerons are not as effective. You need to rely more on rudder control. On the 8UAF, the mixes can be set up such that the "throttle" stick which controls the amount of crow is linked so as to provide extra A/R mixing. Once the throttle is beyond about half way, the A/R mixing is increased. When in crow, the ailerons go up as the throttle stick is moved, and the flaps go down. The maximum deflection (trim position) for the ailerons is in the range of 20 deg. The maximum flap deflection is close to 90 deg. When the ailerons are raised, furthering raising of an aileron by using the right stick may not be possible without hitting the stops. Also, the interaction of ailerons and yaw can be reversed at large deflections. The strategy with the 8UAF is to use programmable mixes such that an aileron is not allowed to rise when there is a lot of crow. Only the downward going aileron moves with the right stick. When the aileron is lowered, drag is reduced and that side of the wing speeds up. This is the opposite of the normal adverse yaw when not in crow. So both ailerons and rudder are controlling yaw, but you rely mostly on rudder at low speeds. Regards, Dick - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Richard C. WilliamsonPhone: 781-981-7857 Room C-317 FAX:781-981-0122 Lincoln Laboratory Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Massachusetts Institute of Technology 244 Wood Street Lexington, MA 02420-9108 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Condor
Does anybody have pictures of their Sleger's Condor that they can email me and tips on building? I ordered it from Ed Sleger, and he has been great to work with...but now I am searching for pictures of it because I have only seen two fuzzy pics so far.TIA Rodger RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Cutting ailerons
Actually, I started out cutting them with a rigging axe, and refined my method by switching over to Stihl! You must be one of those 'sloper' guys I hear so much about. What do you use for wing spars? GlueLams? or do you go straight for the Old Growth Doug Firs with the nice taper? Scob. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Condor
Just one tip... if its obeechi covered *don't stain it* before varathaning it. I did, and it had blochy white stuff around where the expoxy invisibly bled through to the top layer of the wood during the bagging process. Other than that, great plane! Very stable and predictable. Carries a camera pretty good too. -Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have pictures of their Sleger's Condor that they can email me and tips on building? I ordered it from Ed Sleger, and he has been great to work with...but now I am searching for pictures of it because I have only seen two fuzzy pics so far.TIA Rodger RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] New AMD CYCLONE Details
For those of you who didn't get my dry humor. This post was about the airplane, and for those who posted me about how to get one before inventory was gone here is the information on the dealer. Keep in mind I haven' t seen the kit but did talk to guys who have purchased some of the other planes in the line and really liked them (as in worth the money :-) Its a pretty busy page but click on the Catalog to see the planes then on AMD kits. Not a lot of information, but enuf to wet your whistle. Note, don't bother to call for more detail cuz at this time Ray, is out pretty often and he is the only one with details (not the kind we are usually gonna ask about ) there. Its not a huge store or anything. But Ray is a nice guy, with more of a power background, although he has flown slope in the past. You can order off the website. If you want to wait a few days I will have info like foil and stuff . You'll see the site promo says Carbon/Glass fuse. The wings are pre sheeted foam... need to be covered or varnished. All hardware comes with it and from the guys who got other kits. the instructions are very sparse translations. Gordy Hobby Supply South 1720 Mars Hill Road Suite 8365, Acworth GA 30101, USA. Fax : 1-770-974-6243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=" http://www.fly-hss.com"Cyclone dealer website/A RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Ham Band
At 01:30 AM 2/3/2000 -0800, you wrote: snip Pretty soon the HAM bands will be about as exclusive as the CB band. Before you know it, your gliders on the 50Mhz band will be crashing because some drunk truck driver with a HAM license is trying to pick up a hooker on your frequency. It's already happening. Back in 1967, I got my ham license before investing over half a month's salary in one of those new fangled digital radios just so I wouldn't get shot down by a good buddy. I did not have a verifiable interference from either another modeler or a ham until a couple of years ago. Back in 1997, I was unable to control my model at Visalia when the model was above 200 feet. Radio checked out fine on the ground and I was able to fly it specked out when I got back home. The next year, I bought a radio on Channel 55 just for Visalia, Then last year, I started having occasional radio problems. Turned out to be a 6-meter repeater had been installed right on top of the frequency I had been using since 1969. Real hams have a legitimate reason for using the band. Unfortunately, most of the increased activity is due to the same jerks that ruined the CB channels moving up to the ham bands now that the licenses are so easy to get. Chuck Anderson WA4ZFH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] For sale
I have a Thermal Sniffer for sale. This is the one made by Ace. This unit is on 26.995. I used the unit for 4 or 5 flying sessions. It was never crashed. $125.00 plus shipping. Also have a Graupner ASW 22 NIB kit. 118" span, glass fuse, balsa covered foam wings and stab. Instructions show conversion to e-power. $325.00 plus shipping. I also have the spoiler kit recommended for this kit and will include with the kit for $350.00 total plus shipping. Also have a Dwight Holley designed Gobbler kit, NIB, 118" span, all balsa built-up kit. Need $125.00 plus shipping. Thanks, Boyd O'Brien RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] New Slope in Nashville
Just got back from a fun time on a new slope (cristened "The Guppy" - due to the shape. (Damn if 54 degrees didn't feel good compared to the recent cold weather) The slope proved out very well with a WSW wind but pure W would work best. Located across Briley Parkway from Opryland (Music Valley Drive), take Briley Parkway to the Opryland Hotel exit and then take McGavock toward the east away from Opryland Hotel and take the first left. Park at the first Church on the right, cross the road and go through break in the fence between the barb-wire and chain link and follow the outside of the chain link fence to the open lot - about 400 yards. Slope is about 40-50' high and all grass and at the open lot has a lot of room behind the slope. Wind was 8-15 mph and gusty but very flyable, even had some fair thermals roll through. So you Music City (Titan Town) guys need to check this one out... Joe Gullett [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] 48 Carbon control rods - So. Cal source?
Hi guys, I'm trying to find a local (So. Calif.) source for 48", .050 carbon control rods. Hobby Shack and Gyro don't carry 'em. TIA... Kevin Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] A little hint when announcing contests
I will second that. Regis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] A little hint when announcing contests Folks, When announcing a contest, please give full information, like specifically. where the contest is going to be. Some of us don't know where your clubs are by just the acronym you use, like the BAR/CSS contest just announced. Thanks, Dana RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Mellissa Ridenauer
Please email me, I have lost your email adress. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SoCal F3F Feb Race NEW DATE
Seems we had a little conflict with the normal THSS schedule, we would be flying through their combat zone. That might slow us down so, the Feb 2000 F3F Race will be held on SUNDAY FEB 20th at Temple Hill. That is also good news for the TPG members who would like to race but TPG has their monthly TD contest on Sunday Feb 13th. Bren and Arthur no longer have that excuse Those that have already pre-registered and wish to remain registered for the race on Feb 20, do not need to respond. You others, Pre-Register by sending me... Name AMA# Freq Club or Country Jerry R. Craft VWP Ni-Dan Radio Control Angi-San SoCal USA Wk 858-320-4128 Cel 760-803-6955 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Weight of NSP Kestrel 100
No worries mateare you flying Sunday?...Dave Jeb Bushell wrote: Dave, I already flew it, sorry. Goes well. Even so, I'm building a new fuse to get rid of that 2oz of lead in the nose. Jeb http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] BIG ERROR IN SE THIS MONTH
I just got my issue and this is probably the best issue I have seen. Now I Also Fabulous PSS Cover shot, super article on the Temple Hill Gangs Fly, and excellent coverage of Visalia, the second biggest contest in the USA (Midsouth of course is bigger, we have a pool:-) The cover plane IS NOT a PSS, read the box. It is an Electric Ducted Fan model of a Mig 15. Brian Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie in San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
