Re: [RCSE] DJ Aerotech...very good people!

2000-10-05 Thread Joedy Drulia

For two people supporting this hobby, I am very thankful that we have
Joe Hahn and Don Stackhouse.  I'm still amazed that they went out of
their way to help someone who didn't even put money directly in their
pockets (since I bought the Wizard as a used plane), and without any
desire for remuneration.

Be especially alerted...if you ever have any bad experiences with particular 
vendors out there, it definately won't be DJ Aerotech! They are good people, 
treat their customers well and deserve every bit of success they have 
garnished.

Joedy Drulia
Shenandoah Valley, VA
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Re: [RCSE] Aerodesign 2001 / AutoCAD dwg's

2000-10-05 Thread Bill Rose Haymaker

Acad Rev 14 you can export the dwg's as .bmp, and thru some other program
(Adobe photo deluxe) you can covert them to, I know for sure, .jpg, not sure
about .gif


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Is there any way to convert an AutoCAD file into a jpg or gif file? Just
trying to put up a couple of drawings and don't want to have to resort to
scanning a printout :)

Thanks,
Adam
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[RCSE] Hello george voss.

2000-10-05 Thread Homalacka

Hi,
 George its Jason I wasn't sure if you got my last e-mail but I lost the 
bar that holds the weight that pulls the hot wire and the instructions as 
well if you could help me out that would be great.Also I could use a new wire 
as well just let me know how much. Thanks george.
  Thanks for your time,
   Jason
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[RCSE] The new Jade kit.

2000-10-05 Thread pscarr

Hi there fellow soarers. I just received the new Jade kit from NESAIL.
It's a Whyte kit and is very similar to the Sapphire. The wing is 3
piece, bolts to the glass fuse and you build the tail feathers. There is
a small building diagram for the rudder  stab and some other information
but the real stuff is in a manual that seems quite complete. The wings
are done except for needing the LE installed. I have no idea how they cut
the servo pockets but they are perfectly formed with no splintering of
the veneer. The hardware pack is just as complete as the one with the
Sapphire so the whole thing should go together pretty easily. This was to
be the "winter" project but might take a week or so of evenings. Anyway,
for those of you looking for a 100" bird this is a good one. 
Best 73, 
Pete Carr
State College, PA

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[RCSE] Tent Sale Visilia Winch,T.D.stuff

2000-10-05 Thread Michael R.Morjoseph

I am Trucking up  Several  T.D Ships for the Soaring Junkie on Friday
Visilia Bound
he has so many I have to give him a Hand also I will be selling a real nice
Winch 12 volt
with Turn-Around and foot pedal stop buy at Team SWSA Tent..
Well maybe its a Awning
see ya There.. Mike Team Swsa

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Re: [RCSE] 3Rs video?

2000-10-05 Thread Matt Lydon

Where can one get the video..

They had a writeup in RCM mentioning John Roe's web site, but he doesn't
mention it in the site, and although I emailed him, he never responded.

Matt Lydon
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  My Reno flying buddy Chris Adams felt sorry for me and the inept way I
was
  trying to find thermals at one of the S3 contests.  Seeing that I was
one
  aimless thermal vagabond  that needed some SERIOUS help-
  he took it upon himself to give some tutorial.  When that obviously
wasnt
  working too well, in shear frustration(just joking Chris) he gave me two
  things- a bunch of cattails that can be broken open, launching little
fuzz
  balls into the "river in the sky"(or whatever it was Thornburg called
it)
  and the 3Rs video.  Well I got to say that launching fuzz balls one
  afternoon and watching the video was a EYE OPENING experience- and all
along
  I  thought those long streamers at this years SWC were nothing more than
  wind direction indicators!
  Well I went out flying today, stuck a long streamer on my TX antennae
and on
  one of those dreaded soccer goal posts that make a habit of doting our
  fields these days.  And guess what?- watching the streamers/etc actually
  WORKED.  Time and again I was able to fly in the direction of and
actually
  find thermals using what was learned from the video and Chris' cattails.
  Just gotta say thanks to Chris, Joe Wurts, and John Roe.
  Walter



 Can someone tell me more about the 3Rs video that Walter mentioned???

 Thanks,


 Barry

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[RCSE] servo calculator

2000-10-05 Thread Bill Johns

Greetings!

One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the
calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an
application.  check out:

http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm

  OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really
strange numbers.  I'm probably using it wrong.

Given your basic 125" sailplane.  weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches,
they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving
at say 75 mph.  Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive.  For me
the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz.  This is a huge
servo.   Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate.

On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25"
that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in oz
and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate.

Am I doing this right?  Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps,
it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully.  What am I
missing?

Thanks,

Bill


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Re: [RCSE] servo calculator

2000-10-05 Thread Jon Stone

Bill,

No disrespect intended, but what you're not doing right is pulling full
flaps at 75 mph.  Most full-house planes thermal around at 20-30 mph.

First go out and fly your plane.  Get it nice and high and [ut your plane in
a dive to get the airspeed to 75 mph.  Then pull full flaps... suddenly.
Tell us what happens.  BTW, don't try this anywhere near the ground.  I
guarantee that any elevator compensation you have programmed in will be
completely wrong.

After you try it, I am willing to be corrected.  But I believe 75 mph is not
a reasonable speed to expect a flap servo to hold up.  I've done it at high
speeds before and it is not fun.

Jon Stone

 One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the
 calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an
 application.  check out:

 http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm

   OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really
 strange numbers.  I'm probably using it wrong.

 Given your basic 125" sailplane.  weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches,
 they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving
 at say 75 mph.  Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive.  For
me
 the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz.  This is a huge
 servo.   Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate.

 On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25"
 that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in
oz
 and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate.

 Am I doing this right?  Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps,
 it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully.  What am I
 missing?


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Re: [RCSE] servo calculator

2000-10-05 Thread Rick Brown and Jill Wiest

Possibly the calculator is haveing a problem with the extreme
deflections of the flap function,(90 degrees). 

I also think that you are using some unresonable numbers as far as
speed. 75mph is not an unresonable number as far as speed of some
planes, but I know when I pull flaps on my TD ship I am not normally
going anywhere near 75mph. I do sometimes dive down from altitude but do
not come screaming in and drop the flaps at that speed.

If I have time and have planned things right I may pull on flaps first
and spiral down slowly. In this case the flaps come in with very little
speed and then pull out and off the flaps.

Also when making the landing approach it is not at the extreme speeds
you are referring to.

I am using Hitec HS-225MG servos, one on each flap and as you have said
they are up to the task for a 65 - 70 oz. Unlimited plane.

Try inputting some smaller value for speed and see where the torque
values come in about 45 oz.

RB

Bill Johns wrote:
 
 Greetings!
 
 One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the
 calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an
 application.  check out:
 
 http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm
 
   OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really
 strange numbers.  I'm probably using it wrong.
 
 Given your basic 125" sailplane.  weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches,
 they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving
 at say 75 mph.  Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive.  For me
 the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz.  This is a huge
 servo.   Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate.
 
 On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25"
 that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in oz
 and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate.
 
 Am I doing this right?  Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps,
 it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully.  What am I
 missing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bill
 
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Re: [RCSE] servo calculator

2000-10-05 Thread Rick Brown and Jill Wiest

Just did some quick calculations on the servo calc program and if you
drop the speed value down to 50 - 55 mph you will come in around the
55oz torque value of the HS-225's.

I still feel this is too high a speed to be pulling full flaps for
normal TD flying.

RB



Bill Johns wrote:
 
 Greetings!
 
 One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the
 calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an
 application.  check out:
 
 http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm
 
   OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really
 strange numbers.  I'm probably using it wrong.
 
 Given your basic 125" sailplane.  weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches,
 they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving
 at say 75 mph.  Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive.  For me
 the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz.  This is a huge
 servo.   Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate.
 
 On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25"
 that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in oz
 and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate.
 
 Am I doing this right?  Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps,
 it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully.  What am I
 missing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bill
 
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Re: [RCSE] servo calculator http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm

2000-10-05 Thread Karlton Spindle

Do the same calculation with say 15 degrees at 75 MPH enough to START to
slow you down.

Then 30 at say 25 MPH
http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm

The 90 at 10 MPH for landing.
http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm

Your back in the MICRO servo hunt and more like real world flying.

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[RCSE] servo calculator: part 2

2000-10-05 Thread Bill Johns

At 08:57 PM 10/5/00 -0500, Jon Stone wrote:

No disrespect intended, but what you're not doing right is pulling full
flaps at 75 mph.  Most full-house planes thermal around at 20-30 mph.

Wow!  about 5 response in 15 minutes.  Why aren't you guys watching the
political debates???

OK, I see my problem.  No, I would never actually do that, i.e. drop flaps
at full dive.  We have one guy around here who does that every now and then
at a contest.  Amazing how far the sound of an exploding wing will carry.
Amazing how much energy you can store in a foam/glass wing to make that
much noise.  ;-)

My problem was that I was playing with a computer.  With this kinda
calculating power it is easy to play "what if" games and I was setting up a
totally unreasonable, worst case scenario.

I stand corrected and I am using the servo calculator correctly, just not
using reasonable numbers.

Thanks to all who responded and to Karlton for making such a neat program
available.

Bill
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[RCSE] Sherman Knight's JR 388/8103 setup article...

2000-10-05 Thread Les Grammer

At one time I thought someone said Sherman Knight's article on programming
the JR388/8103 for a competition setup was on a web site somewhere.  Does
anyone have the address, or know where copies can be obtained?


Inquiring minds want to know.

-Les Grammer

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[RCSE] servo calculator: part 3

2000-10-05 Thread Bill Johns

At 07:33 PM 10/5/00 -0700, Bill Johns wrote:

My problem was that I was playing with a computer.  With this kinda
calculating power it is easy to play "what if" games and I was setting up a
totally unreasonable, worst case scenario.

Actually I know better.  Whenever I fly commercial I prefer a seat over the
wing section so I can watch all the bits and pieces move while the pilot is
doing all the serious work.  I remember fondly noting that once at the
initial stages of a descent, the pilot had to bank and I watched the
ailerons move perhaps a very small amount, an inch a the outside, to
produce a very quick movement of the plane.  This was at a high speed.
Later, while on final, at a much lower speed, the ailerons were moving many
inches to correct for turbulence, and the plane sorta responded in its own
sweet time.

Same sorta thing we are talking about here.

Back to the regularly scheduled programming.

Bill
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