Re: [RCSE] DJ Aerotech...very good people!
For two people supporting this hobby, I am very thankful that we have Joe Hahn and Don Stackhouse. I'm still amazed that they went out of their way to help someone who didn't even put money directly in their pockets (since I bought the Wizard as a used plane), and without any desire for remuneration. Be especially alerted...if you ever have any bad experiences with particular vendors out there, it definately won't be DJ Aerotech! They are good people, treat their customers well and deserve every bit of success they have garnished. Joedy Drulia Shenandoah Valley, VA _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Aerodesign 2001 / AutoCAD dwg's
Acad Rev 14 you can export the dwg's as .bmp, and thru some other program (Adobe photo deluxe) you can covert them to, I know for sure, .jpg, not sure about .gif -Original Message- From: Adam Till [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:56 PM Subject: [RCSE] Aerodesign 2001 / AutoCAD dwg's Is there any way to convert an AutoCAD file into a jpg or gif file? Just trying to put up a couple of drawings and don't want to have to resort to scanning a printout :) Thanks, Adam www.geocities.com/sunbirdz/Sailplane_Homepage.html It's a big mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize that you are in a hurry. The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. - _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Hello george voss.
Hi, George its Jason I wasn't sure if you got my last e-mail but I lost the bar that holds the weight that pulls the hot wire and the instructions as well if you could help me out that would be great.Also I could use a new wire as well just let me know how much. Thanks george. Thanks for your time, Jason RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] The new Jade kit.
Hi there fellow soarers. I just received the new Jade kit from NESAIL. It's a Whyte kit and is very similar to the Sapphire. The wing is 3 piece, bolts to the glass fuse and you build the tail feathers. There is a small building diagram for the rudder stab and some other information but the real stuff is in a manual that seems quite complete. The wings are done except for needing the LE installed. I have no idea how they cut the servo pockets but they are perfectly formed with no splintering of the veneer. The hardware pack is just as complete as the one with the Sapphire so the whole thing should go together pretty easily. This was to be the "winter" project but might take a week or so of evenings. Anyway, for those of you looking for a 100" bird this is a good one. Best 73, Pete Carr State College, PA YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Tent Sale Visilia Winch,T.D.stuff
I am Trucking up Several T.D Ships for the Soaring Junkie on Friday Visilia Bound he has so many I have to give him a Hand also I will be selling a real nice Winch 12 volt with Turn-Around and foot pedal stop buy at Team SWSA Tent.. Well maybe its a Awning see ya There.. Mike Team Swsa RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 3Rs video?
Where can one get the video.. They had a writeup in RCM mentioning John Roe's web site, but he doesn't mention it in the site, and although I emailed him, he never responded. Matt Lydon - Original Message - From: "B.L.Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:34 AM Subject: [RCSE] 3Rs video? My Reno flying buddy Chris Adams felt sorry for me and the inept way I was trying to find thermals at one of the S3 contests. Seeing that I was one aimless thermal vagabond that needed some SERIOUS help- he took it upon himself to give some tutorial. When that obviously wasnt working too well, in shear frustration(just joking Chris) he gave me two things- a bunch of cattails that can be broken open, launching little fuzz balls into the "river in the sky"(or whatever it was Thornburg called it) and the 3Rs video. Well I got to say that launching fuzz balls one afternoon and watching the video was a EYE OPENING experience- and all along I thought those long streamers at this years SWC were nothing more than wind direction indicators! Well I went out flying today, stuck a long streamer on my TX antennae and on one of those dreaded soccer goal posts that make a habit of doting our fields these days. And guess what?- watching the streamers/etc actually WORKED. Time and again I was able to fly in the direction of and actually find thermals using what was learned from the video and Chris' cattails. Just gotta say thanks to Chris, Joe Wurts, and John Roe. Walter Can someone tell me more about the 3Rs video that Walter mentioned??? Thanks, Barry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] servo calculator
Greetings! One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an application. check out: http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really strange numbers. I'm probably using it wrong. Given your basic 125" sailplane. weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches, they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving at say 75 mph. Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive. For me the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz. This is a huge servo. Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate. On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25" that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in oz and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate. Am I doing this right? Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps, it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully. What am I missing? Thanks, Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] servo calculator
Bill, No disrespect intended, but what you're not doing right is pulling full flaps at 75 mph. Most full-house planes thermal around at 20-30 mph. First go out and fly your plane. Get it nice and high and [ut your plane in a dive to get the airspeed to 75 mph. Then pull full flaps... suddenly. Tell us what happens. BTW, don't try this anywhere near the ground. I guarantee that any elevator compensation you have programmed in will be completely wrong. After you try it, I am willing to be corrected. But I believe 75 mph is not a reasonable speed to expect a flap servo to hold up. I've done it at high speeds before and it is not fun. Jon Stone One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an application. check out: http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really strange numbers. I'm probably using it wrong. Given your basic 125" sailplane. weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches, they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving at say 75 mph. Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive. For me the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz. This is a huge servo. Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate. On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25" that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in oz and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate. Am I doing this right? Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps, it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully. What am I missing? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] servo calculator
Possibly the calculator is haveing a problem with the extreme deflections of the flap function,(90 degrees). I also think that you are using some unresonable numbers as far as speed. 75mph is not an unresonable number as far as speed of some planes, but I know when I pull flaps on my TD ship I am not normally going anywhere near 75mph. I do sometimes dive down from altitude but do not come screaming in and drop the flaps at that speed. If I have time and have planned things right I may pull on flaps first and spiral down slowly. In this case the flaps come in with very little speed and then pull out and off the flaps. Also when making the landing approach it is not at the extreme speeds you are referring to. I am using Hitec HS-225MG servos, one on each flap and as you have said they are up to the task for a 65 - 70 oz. Unlimited plane. Try inputting some smaller value for speed and see where the torque values come in about 45 oz. RB Bill Johns wrote: Greetings! One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an application. check out: http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really strange numbers. I'm probably using it wrong. Given your basic 125" sailplane. weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches, they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving at say 75 mph. Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive. For me the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz. This is a huge servo. Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate. On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25" that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in oz and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate. Am I doing this right? Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps, it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully. What am I missing? Thanks, Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] servo calculator
Just did some quick calculations on the servo calc program and if you drop the speed value down to 50 - 55 mph you will come in around the 55oz torque value of the HS-225's. I still feel this is too high a speed to be pulling full flaps for normal TD flying. RB Bill Johns wrote: Greetings! One of the really neat things about the Multiplex web page is the calculator that will help predict the right sized calculator for an application. check out: http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm OK, given that it is an approximation at best, I still get some really strange numbers. I'm probably using it wrong. Given your basic 125" sailplane. weighs say 70 oz, flaps are 2x25 inches, they deflect 90 degrees, the wing has a 10" chord and the plane is moving at say 75 mph. Yes, this is fast, but not unreasonable for a dive. For me the servo calculator gives a required servo of 112 in oz. This is a huge servo. Most of us would find a Hitec 225 MG with 55 in oz adequate. On the other hand, given an aileron on the same plane, again say 2"x25" that moves only 30 degrees then the required servo must carry only 37 in oz and an HS 85 at 42 in oz.is more than adequate. Am I doing this right? Whenever I try to come up with a value for flaps, it always seems about twice as high as folks use successfully. What am I missing? Thanks, Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] servo calculator http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm
Do the same calculation with say 15 degrees at 75 MPH enough to START to slow you down. Then 30 at say 25 MPH http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm The 90 at 10 MPH for landing. http://www.multiplexrc.com/calcservo.htm Your back in the MICRO servo hunt and more like real world flying. Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com Team Multiplex World F3J Champions USA F3B Champion USA F3J Champion USA Open Class Champion USA 1:5 Scale R/C car Touring Champions USA 1:5 Scale R/C car GT Champions RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] servo calculator: part 2
At 08:57 PM 10/5/00 -0500, Jon Stone wrote: No disrespect intended, but what you're not doing right is pulling full flaps at 75 mph. Most full-house planes thermal around at 20-30 mph. Wow! about 5 response in 15 minutes. Why aren't you guys watching the political debates??? OK, I see my problem. No, I would never actually do that, i.e. drop flaps at full dive. We have one guy around here who does that every now and then at a contest. Amazing how far the sound of an exploding wing will carry. Amazing how much energy you can store in a foam/glass wing to make that much noise. ;-) My problem was that I was playing with a computer. With this kinda calculating power it is easy to play "what if" games and I was setting up a totally unreasonable, worst case scenario. I stand corrected and I am using the servo calculator correctly, just not using reasonable numbers. Thanks to all who responded and to Karlton for making such a neat program available. Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Sherman Knight's JR 388/8103 setup article...
At one time I thought someone said Sherman Knight's article on programming the JR388/8103 for a competition setup was on a web site somewhere. Does anyone have the address, or know where copies can be obtained? Inquiring minds want to know. -Les Grammer -Les Grammer, NWSS "Hunting for the Thermal Wizard" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] servo calculator: part 3
At 07:33 PM 10/5/00 -0700, Bill Johns wrote: My problem was that I was playing with a computer. With this kinda calculating power it is easy to play "what if" games and I was setting up a totally unreasonable, worst case scenario. Actually I know better. Whenever I fly commercial I prefer a seat over the wing section so I can watch all the bits and pieces move while the pilot is doing all the serious work. I remember fondly noting that once at the initial stages of a descent, the pilot had to bank and I watched the ailerons move perhaps a very small amount, an inch a the outside, to produce a very quick movement of the plane. This was at a high speed. Later, while on final, at a much lower speed, the ailerons were moving many inches to correct for turbulence, and the plane sorta responded in its own sweet time. Same sorta thing we are talking about here. Back to the regularly scheduled programming. Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]