Re: [RCSE] Vision 3.0 Questions.
Older Visions had a flaw with the strap that holds the pot's output shaft to the radio. This strap often cracked causing the shaft to rotate and cause the problem you are experiencing. The fix is quite simple; just reinforce the strap and tighten it all back down after you re-center the pot using the Vision's LCD readout. We found all this out on practice day for the '91 F3B Worlds in Holland when Larry Jolly's radio had this happen and Joe's was about to. We fixed both in the field and the rest is history. Good luck, Norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you notice that the elevator stops counting at partial down, then you probably need to readjust the pot centering manually. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Listserve down time
Tomorrow evening (12th December) from around 5:30 PM Eastern there will be some interruption to all Listserves operated by Airage until around midnight. This is due to an upgrade to our network and internet connection. We will try to keep the down time to a minimum. Apologies for the inconvenience Peter Andrew Systems Office Air Age Publishing, Inc Ridgefield CT 06877-4606 USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HS50 amp draw
OK, at Jon's behest, I have done a more thorough test. For 2 HS50 servos and a Hitec 555 rx, current measured at idle: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30.0ma@6v This slight reduction in drain at lower voltage actually coincides with what Don Stackhouse mentioned to me. The reciever alone drew a steady 11.4ma throughout this range. My equiptment isn't really set up for instantaneous readout, but gentle jiggling of the sticks drew around 100ma. I feel that 45-150ma is probably the range of what these servos draw when we are making small corrections. A sharp rudder elevator input showed spikes of as much as 1.79amps, but the actual figure is probably higher. Rick RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Antares Sailplane; Darn You SEM
EMS in Germany markets 1/5 to 1/3 size up and go sailplane electric system. The engineering is done for such a system. I don't know if he will sell it separatly from his plane packages or not. See the scale soaring page for a link to EMS on the index page, and a hot link to the Antares site. John Derstine E-mail; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scale Soaring: http://www.Geocities.com/~scalesoar -Original Message- From: Adam Till [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Antares Sailplane; Darn You SEM 1450"^2 of wing area 215" span 27.2:1 aspect ratio. 21.5" scale prop diameter (max) Has anyone done anything like this that might be able to give me some pointers? Or, failing that, could someone disprove the whole concept and save me thinking about it anymore... Thanks as always, Adam Till _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HLG setup
Stefan, I guess you could have that much down throw, but I don't see the point. On my HLG I have equal throws. I have the travel volume maxed out (or at least close) but to handle the extreme control I use 100% exponential with my computer radio. I get the fine, soft feel of small throws with low stick movement along with the large, quick responses that a hand launch needs for low level flying. Or at least that's how I like it. As for that specific launch mode, it's a must. What I use on my Futaba 8UF is the programmable mixing with the channel 8 adjustment knob into my up elevator. I set it to the trainer switch so that I hold the switch down to give just about 1/16th inch up. I throw my hand launch and let the up trim point the plane up enough to get altitude, then release the switch when it has reached the desired climb angle. Then I level off at the top of the launch to go find some lift. This system has given me at least ten more feet of altitude on a good launch. For a V-tail, you need to Pmix both v-tail servo channels. I hope I didn't confuse you too much. Erik Alber "The Resin Head" http://SuperSailplanes.freeservers.com http://NuanceHLG.8k.com - Original Message - From: "Stefan Smets" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: [RCSE] HLG setup I've finished assembling/building my first HLG, Simprop Fashion with a V-tail. Some time ago is was said on the list to have twice down as up on the elevator. What's the reason for this ? Is it necessary ? Also, I've read something about a specific launch mode ? What exactly does that mean ? How is this set up ? Thanks, Stefan. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Help with AutoCad
I never tried it, I don't know for sure if acad13 can accept bmp files, but I would think so because it can do rendering. It can accept dxf files. Unfortunately I lent my manuals out and drafting is closed right now. I'll see what I can find, but there are some Acad heavyweights out there on the exchange who should answer this. Rick -Original Message- From: S Madjanovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 11:55 AM To: soaring mailing list; RC Ducted Fans and Jets; E Flight mailing list Subject: [RCSE] Help with AutoCad I am trying to import a scanned image into AutoCad. I am trying to import a scanned image of an aircraft drawing. I can scan the image and save it in a variety of formats. When I try to import or open the image AutoCad will not do so. I am using AutoCad LT 98 and AutoCad R13. If any of you have experience and can hold my hand step by step through the proceedure it would be greatly appreciated. Stephen Ontario Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re:AutoCad help
Thanks for all the help and advice. I have to reveiw the processdures and try them. I have two local fliers who have offered to walk me through the proceedure and I will be contacting them as well. If I need any further help i will post to the list(s) again. If I get this to work I will post a step by step proceedure to the list(s) for any else with the same problem. Stephen Madjnaovich Keswick, Ontario Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Contests and LSF Levels
Gents, To all those that either don't see the point of having competition goals as part of LSF, or don't think they should have to compete and SUCCEED in competition as part of the LSF program, I have something to say. Don't get involved in LSF in the first place if you aren't willing to play by the same set of rules as the thousands of others that are willing to challenge themselves by those rules. Don't expect it to be easy, because it isn't, never was, and never will be. If you want to aspire to be as good as you can be, then learn from the experience. If you are afraid to fail, this program probably isn't for you, you have nothing to learn because you are already the best you ever will be. Don't expect the majority of fliers testing themselves against the LSF levels to sympathize with your need to succeed the easy way. Just go find a sheet of LSF decals and put the level number you think you rate on your plane (then go to one of the mail order universities and get yourself the degree you think you deserve, but won't work for). Jim Thomas LSF 4629, Level V #68 PhD Oregon State University 1979 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Contests and LSF Levels
We are not saying that we expect it to be easy. By all means make it harder. I am sure that the Level 5's would like another challenge (just ask Mal Pring who is doing it all again)! It can be made harder without the need for contests. Perhapes we need to leave the existing levels alone and add parallel "non-contest" levels with more challenging tasks. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Jim Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Contests and LSF Levels Gents, To all those that either don't see the point of having competition goals as part of LSF, or don't think they should have to compete and SUCCEED in competition as part of the LSF program, I have something to say. Don't get involved in LSF in the first place if you aren't willing to play by the same set of rules as the thousands of others that are willing to challenge themselves by those rules. Don't expect it to be easy, because it isn't, never was, and never will be. If you want to aspire to be as good as you can be, then learn from the experience. If you are afraid to fail, this program probably isn't for you, you have nothing to learn because you are already the best you ever will be. Don't expect the majority of fliers testing themselves against the LSF levels to sympathize with your need to succeed the easy way. Just go find a sheet of LSF decals and put the level number you think you rate on your plane (then go to one of the mail order universities and get yourself the degree you think you deserve, but won't work for). Jim Thomas LSF 4629, Level V #68 PhD Oregon State University 1979 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Antares Sailplane; Darn You SEM
Guys, I've been looking for an answer to this problem for a while as well. I am presently flying a 5 meter Duo Discus planformed electric on 16 cells. Climbs well, weighs about 10 pounds. I'm getting about 1000 watts out of the Aveox system. That's all you can safely pull for any period of time before melting things. I don't think Aveox has any solutions for more wattage over a long period. You would need at least a 60 second motor run to get to a decent height. I have called EMS. He wasn't willing to sell it separately, maybe in early 2001. He wouldn't define the motor he was using. Astro has some motors that would seem to handle a bit more wattage for a longer period, based on gearing/belting. I have spent a lot of time with Tom Hunt trying to come up with a belt solution for this. He advises against going with a large system/prop due to gyroscopic issues amongst others. From what I can tell, you should be able to build and fly a large sailplane, say under 12 pounds, with a span of under 200 inches just fine with electrics. Going larger will get expensive. Typical Euro scale kits are already a bit heavy, so Electrics guys usually figure the wattage needed by multiplying weight times watts desired. 100 per lb. for aerobatic. 40-50 per pound will let you stagger into the air, but that would be difficult to ROG with and it would take a long time to climb. You would really want nothing less than 70 to 90 watts to make it impressive. Figure the big scale jobs weigh 25-35 pounds. You can gang astro motors on a belt system and with a big enough controller to get this sort of power. Don't try it with the Aveox. You can't run multiple Aveox controllers off the same battery pack, and you wouldn't want to run them seperately as you will invariably have one out of "synch" with the other. This will lead to a melted motor from overamping it. I came across a cool servo controller. Allows you to program up to 8 discrete steps each for 4 servos operated off one radio channel. I don't have the link here, but it would serve well to operate the mechanisms needed for the up and go type mast off of the throttle stick, much like the Antares does. I can get it for anyone that needed it. The device is about $65, and the programmer device is about the same. Enough of my ranting. I would encourage anyone interested to pursue this, if you find a reliable method to do so, please let me know! Lee Estingoy New Orleans - Original Message - From: "John Derstine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Adam Till" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 1:51 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Antares Sailplane; Darn You SEM EMS in Germany markets 1/5 to 1/3 size up and go sailplane electric system. The engineering is done for such a system. I don't know if he will sell it separatly from his plane packages or not. See the scale soaring page for a link to EMS on the index page, and a hot link to the Antares site. John Derstine E-mail; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scale Soaring: http://www.Geocities.com/~scalesoar -Original Message- From: Adam Till [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Antares Sailplane; Darn You SEM 1450"^2 of wing area 215" span 27.2:1 aspect ratio. 21.5" scale prop diameter (max) Has anyone done anything like this that might be able to give me some pointers? Or, failing that, could someone disprove the whole concept and save me thinking about it anymore... Thanks as always, Adam Till _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Servo Identity Puzzle
OK, guys.last week there was a question about using different servos with different receivers, and what wiring adjustments must be made. My question is along the same lines but more of a puzzle. I was given a scale Grunau Baby with servos already installed in the wings for ailerons and airbrakes. The aileron servos have Hitec type connectors and behave normally when attached to a Hitec receiver. The airbrake servos have multicolored wires that are not of any known color combination.I think that they are just 3-wire extensions off the original that is sealed inside the wings. There are no connectors. Is there any way that I can determine with a voltmeter, ohmmeter or black magic which should be the +, - and signal wires without actually taking the covering off the wing? (which I don't want to do because it is a finished fabric covering!) TIA Dave Smith Vancouver Island Slope and Thermal Association RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] we call it OPEN-class
This year the f3j guys here in Argentina use the same rules as "F3J" but with f3b-style winchs... Mariano NunezARGENTINA
Re: [RCSE] Pulleys, Stakes, and Chutes
You mean kinda like banning a car because you could possibly hit somebody with it ? Regards, Gerard Saraber [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:41:17AM -0600, Bob Rice wrote: Guys, Rather than trying to figure ways to prevent the pulley and stakes from kill/maiming someone else, just ban the pulley - no stake to fly!!! Bob Rice Rocky Mountain Soaring Assn. Denver CO USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Servo-savers
I'm putting together a combat foamie and wanted to use servo savers. I want to try micro servos in the wings, but am not sure if the Kimbrough servo savers will fit on Hitec micros (hs-80/81/85 size). Should I just go with full size gear and servo savers instead? Anyone had any experience with the Kimbrough servo savers? Is the medium size better for preventing damage? Thanks, David Access your e-mail anywhere, at any time. Get your FREE BellSouth Web Mail account today! http://webmail.bellsouth.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Original Crystal Question
I think the answer here is that JR (probably from complaints) believes their (JR) receivers on channels 11 - 14 are 'at risk' from FM channel 56 - 60 Txs (any make). Thus they have stopped supplying the Rx crystals - channels 11 - 14. Question: Do they sell TX modules for channels 11 - 14? Probably no more. I do have both (JR Module and JR Rx) on channel 12. It (Rx) has not been tested 'under fire'. since I have owned it. I have 'contested' the JR Tx (Ch 12) using both RCD 555 and FMA receivers with no sign of interference (as expected). Regis -Original Message- From: Mike Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:24 AM To: bobless; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Original Crystal Question JR has recommended not using, then discontinued stocking parts for channels 11-14... there is a reason.. want to risk your planes? do what you want.. At 06:00 PM 12/6/00 -0700, you wrote: All I really wanted to know is if I can switch my JR 549 recievers to channel 11, to be used with a Stylus transmitter? Do I have to use JR crystals (not available channels 11-14) or not. Can I use another brand of crystals or not? Thank you RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] CONTESTS and LSF LEVELS
Paul Ferguson posted to Jim Thomas in regards to 'Contests and LSF Levels,'
"Perhaps we need to leave the existing levels alone and add parallel
'non-contest' levels with more challenging tasks."
SOUNDS LIKE!! LSF AWARDS with a nasty " * " attached to me :-) !! Maybe,
Paul, as a disinterested party you could help the judges somewhere USA come
up with a scientific way to divine dimples :-) !
Sorry! I couldn't resist :-) !! I plan to compete in one international and
two national or regional contests in a busman's holiday to my Homeland
U.S.A. next summer. Is this language lost on you!? It means having FUN
while you are on business! What is the difference between what I will be
engaged in and Gordy!? With Gordy the FUN comes first :-) !! God is MY
boss!! My criteria for participation is similarly expressed as a principle
through the use of reiteration as is the laws of investing in real
estate (1. Location; 2) Location; 3) Location!!!). Expressly, "1) FUN; 2)
FUN; 3) FUN; 4) FUN !", the first LAW of RC Soaring instituted and
established by JW! I don't expect to win a thing this summer but new
friends--I will try harder, flying in the Eagle Class at the IHLGF, but
RCHLG pilots are getting older (fortunately Joe is still too young to
compete against me) and the competition is gett'n tougher at my (age) level
:-) ! Not that it didn't start out that way, the first year of the Eagle
Class ('98) I had to fly against the TPG's Scharck and Don Richmond. Still
as the AWAY Champ, GRACIOUS Ron (not to be confused with Don) awarded the
First Place Plaque to me which I proudly display; the NEAREST I will
probably EVER get to anything like it!? My third place the same year at
the MidSouths in HL Golf against the likes of Jim Bacus-Bruce Davidson
Company didn't get me a thing besides hearing my name blared out with a
bullhorn--and I ran the whole course; I think they mentioned that--I
thought I at least deserved a JR or Futaba decal!! Go figure :-) !!
It has been a long while since this thread has made the round--so be
it! As one who had hoped for a career in aviation and passed from true HL
gliders (NOT to be confused with RCHLG) and hand tow gliders with
dethermalizers to full scale while in college, I of course became
acquainted with the FAI international soaring awards. When I was drawn
into RC Soaring I soon became acquainted with the LSF program and
recognized the value of it for the RC Soaring enthusiast. I began my own
effort to bring it to Japan and later was ready to help one of our Japanese
glider-guiders (a better idea) establish it here. Except for the initial
phases, however, it is not a realistic program for Japan! None the less,
any changing of the rules would tarnish its metal!
As Rob Glover posted:
"The LSF is Not going to change it's program.
The LSF is Not going to change it's program.
The LSF is Not going to change it's program."
"Got it? Good." AMEN :-) and "Congratulations!!" to all the Level fives
out there!!
Paul Clark, SKY PILOT ONE, Osaka, Japan(AMA # 53 777 1)
http://www.kcat.zaq.ne.jp/skypilot/
SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG AFICIONADO
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