Re: [RCSE] HITEC gears?
Bill Conkling wrote: Is there a way to get only this little plastic gear? This question has plagued me for years! If you find out, let me know! -- Stephen Syrotiak Building Service ~ Not really expecting the sort of answer I'd like. Southern Connecticut RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Ellipse 2V and Ellipse 2ET for sale
This is a must have for pilots who love to fly all day, no matter the conditions. Perfect F3F racer or all around sloper. I am selling this with an additional Ellipse 2ET, the electric fuse. The electric fuse is a T-Tail, very few of these were made. The 2V is a yellow fuse, wing is yellow top/ purple bottom and it has Ellipse 2 on the upper wing. It has hitec 85 MG's throughout. Slimline Rx and 5 cell 1100mah pack. It has the usual minor scratches under the wing. Nose cone has scratches from landings. Otherwise in perfect shape. Also included is an electric fuse for those days when the gliders are grounded. This Ellipse 2ET, T-tail fuse, brushless Kontronic motor, speed controller, Rx and Rx battery are all included. 2 specially made 12cell Nicad zapped 2400mah packs included. Fuse has damage from some crashes, all solidly repaired. This plane goes up like a rocket and the pack gives u at least 3 climb outs to speck height! The wing from the glider is simply transferred to the electric or vice versa. It is very easy to access the battery and motor as the e-cone slips out of the e-fuse with a unique clip in bolt. This is a must have for the sloper who hates being grounded in no wind conditions. As new the whole package would cost over $3000. Asking $1500 or best offer for whole package. Shipping extra From Walnut Creek, California. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Another Question
Has anyone been sucessuful in priming and painting balsa parts? I got this plane already started looks like there might have been sanding sealer put on the wood then lightly primed. I just want a good solid finish so making sure before I proceed. Thanks Glenn W. __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Craft-Air Viking
Thanks Jim, Yeah, most definately... I was thinking of a ply joiner box capped with CF and wound with kevlar. This would require relocation of the wing joiner about 3/8 forward to center it between the top and bottom spar... Outboard of the joiner box I was gonna go with 1/2vertical-grain balsa shear webbing, CF spar caps, spiral wound with kevlar. Outside the poly break I'll probably just use a 1/8 balsa shear web with a thinner CF cap on a tapering spar. Did you fly the MK I or MK II wing? - Original Message - From: Jim Ealy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Carver, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Craft-Air Viking Hi: I just found a Viking kit as well. I built two when they first came out. Both failed on launch at first bay past wingrod.. Not when fun flying, but at a contest. However, we were flying in a narrow field with trees all around, just as the launch height was even with the top of the trees, the full force of the wind hit the ship. BUT with todays winches - I'd really beef up the spar - carbon. Maybe you can get away with spruce webbing - make an I beam. Certainly 1/16 ply webbing. Fun ship to fly and pretty in the air. I may increase the spar size and use ply webbing instead of carbon with the supplied spars. jim ealy ama life member #43 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] SoCal HSS contest?
Looks like it's still on. Check their website at www.1hss.org and maybe e-mail one of their officers. Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:19 PM To: Soaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] SoCal HSS contest? Anyone in SoCal know if the HSS contest is still going this coming Sunday? Didn't sign up for Phoenix, what with coming off a summer of non-flying, so I'm stuck here this weekend. Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
Man, look at the technology our computer radios have, and they are so stupid about stomping all over each others frequencies. I know the technology is available to keep this from happening. I for one would pay for it even if it meant buying a new system. Well, you could at least stack the odds in your favor by switching to ham bands. You wouldn't have to lay out a big stack of money, but would again greatly reduce the number of pilots likely to be on your freq. - David [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
I think we should all have a unique ID in our tx and a way to set the ID in the rx with microswitches or programming. The only way to escape all the newbies and throw away RTF's is to have this coded system on a separate freq. band, and priced in the league for the guys flying expensive toys, like helicopters, jets, IMAC, and our silly little molded gliders. 8-) Packet radio perhaps? Or, true digital radios with a signature at some point (just hope you don't need fast input after an unqualified signal). - David [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Sold Smart tester
In about 10 minutes...Thanks for the BW...Brian _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
I'm gonna cut this thread short, I was really just sympathizing with Tom loosing his second model to the same reason in such a short period of time. Main point, like he even cares what I think too. I should have never mentioned and frequency control issues on RCSE, that will never get solved here and not worth ruffling any feathers over. I am sorry Dick, we have never met personally and I don't want this to go any further. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
In a message dated 01/30/2002 10:38:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Get off it Jim. This is an equal opportunity sport (or hobby,depending on who you listen to.) Flying an overpriced ARF does not give you any priority over those who build our own simple DLGs. The channel block is not available in the US.. I think we should all have a unique ID in our tx and a way to set the ID in the rx with microswitches or programming. The only way to escape all the newbies and throw away RTF's is to have this coded system on a separate freq. band, and priced in the league for the guys flying expensive toys, like helicopters, jets, IMAC, and our silly little molded gliders Jim I think Jim's idea has merit. You pay a premium for the protection of your stuff. In an ideal scenario, the cost of it would not limit the newbie's access or force anybody to use it. It would simply be available at a price. I don't know the technical limitations, but they should be challenges, not obstacles. Just think, though. Removing the I've been hit! dodge from the arsenal of excuses might be kinda like wearing the emperor's (not you Karlton!) invisible robe. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
Dont get your feathers ruffled. All I said was that just because you choose to fly overpriced, pre-build, moulded ARFS does not give you any frequency advantage. Yes I would pay for your overpriced mouldy if: 1. I shot it down 2. you were on the frequency board when I started to fly. If you choose to fly at a place without frequency control then you do it at your own risk. Slope sites seem to be the worst offenders in this respect. Model price has no priority for frequency. The last time someone shot me down was a kid with a zagi that decided to fly from the soccer field across the road from our county parks department provided AMA club soaring and electric field (SASS). He didn't want to bother the 'serious' glider fliers so he decided to teach himself to fly in the soccer field across the street. He is now a valuable member of our club. -- Dick Barker Seattle, WA - Turning HLG Around - Get off what, I never said it did. I hope your models never get shot down, I haven't been so lucky, and most people don't care. Do you have that attitude too? Would you reimburse me if you shot down my $1200 Icon and destroyed it with one of your little toys? I don't want to find out. I am just saying I would pay extra to have a regulated frequency so I can preserve my models, and fly in a more safe environment. That is not an elitist attitude, sir Jim At 10:37 PM 1/30/2002, Dick Barker wrote: Get off it Jim. This is an equal opportunity sport (or hobby,depending on who you listen to.) Flying an overpriced ARF does not give you any priority over those who build our own simple DLGs. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
I'm gonna cut this thread short, I was really just sympathizing with Tom loosing his second model to the same reason in such a short period of time. Main point, like he even cares what I think too. I should have never mentioned and frequency control issues on RCSE, that will never get solved here and not worth ruffling any feathers over. I am sorry Dick, we have never met personally and I don't want this to go any further. Jim Downers Grove, IL Jim,Sounds fine to me. How do we turn off that group of barking thread chasers that want to turn it into a big deal? -- Dick Barker Seattle, WA - Turning HLG Around - RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
I switched to the ham band almost ten years ago just because I was tired of sharing freqs when I was at the slopes. At the moment, I'm the only one on the slopes that is *legally* using the ham freqs. But that doesn't stop me from asking others what channels they are on and informing others of my channel. One drawback I can think of in having the ham band channels is that rx's are a little more expensive than the 72 mhz counterparts. But at least hams have the legal exclusive rights to the 50 53 mhz r/c channels. Until better frequency management technology is implemented in our hardware, we will always be in danger of being shot down by others who are clueless or don't give a rip. In the meantime, fly at your own risk and hope that the AMA insurance kicks in somewhere down the line. (sounds like quote of the week grin) Aloha to all on RCSE, Al Battad-WH6VE AMA #506981 -Original Message- From: David A. Enete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety Man, look at the technology our computer radios have, and they are so stupid about stomping all over each others frequencies. I know the technology is available to keep this from happening. I for one would pay for it even if it meant buying a new system. Well, you could at least stack the odds in your favor by switching to ham bands. You wouldn't have to lay out a big stack of money, but would again greatly reduce the number of pilots likely to be on your freq. - David [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, David A. Enete wrote: Packet radio perhaps? Or, true digital radios with a signature at some point (just hope you don't need fast input after an unqualified signal). 802.11 (usually known as AirPort) give 11 megabit/sec (about 100k). I have one in the laptop I'm using now. The card itself is a PCMCIA and weighs, oh, less than half an ounce. And it speaks TCP/IP. If we had real packets, we could send/receive anything to and from the ship with redundancy, frequency wouldn't especially matter, you could encrypt/decrypt your signal, and you could have a web server that sent out a webpage that told altitude, attitude, whatever (not that a web page would be a good idea; something streaming would be way better). And I bet it could be done for the same prace as radios now. The card in my computer cost $90. If it was integrated into a whole radio, eh, maybe it would cost a little more. But you could use an embedded chip onboard to decrypt and parse and talk to the servos. But we don't do this because it's not where we're coming from. We're coming from free flight. We want to control our models, so we attach lines, then radios. Then we want to mix the radio signal. It's an evolutionary process, but every so often a revolution's a good idea. Naturally, though, *I* can't design this. So I have to wait. And so do most of us. So I'm willing to put up with if it ain't broke, don't fix it since I can't really help the situation anyway. -J - David [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
It would be a bit of effort, but would probably pay off to some extent in the long run: Make up some professional-looking (i.e. NOT handwritten) single-page Tip Sheets. We'll call them that for now, if for no other reason than I can't think of anything fancier. Briefly and simply explain the issue of frequency conflict/control. Include the concept of pin boards and stress the importance of ASKING FOR HELP at fields, if one is uncertain of the goings-on. Print these on brightly-colored paper (the fluorescent reds or greens come to mind). Leave a stack of 100 or so at all the local shops...one could enlist the help of a couple of the local clubs with the task. Talk to the manager at each of the stores and try to get them to agree to include one of these sheets with EVERY radio and/or flying package sale. Stress the importance of the issue with him/her, that we're trying to be proactive with a real problem. Visit the shop(s) once a month or as necessary to keep the flyers stocked and talk to the shop personnel. This won't get everyone and maybe it's already been tried to no avail. You may also get a cold reception at some places, but it could work. You might also pick up some new talent in the process. Just thinking out in public here...opinions? Tom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety I'd like some constructive ideas about how I can work to improve the situation. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
802.11 (usually known as AirPort) give 11 megabit/sec (about 100k). I have one in the laptop I'm using now (Monkey King) Your network is using 802.11b -- WiFi in today's parlance (its what Apple uses in their AirPort products). Its not going to work too well to control a model since the range is only about 150'. It works quite well despite having to share the band with microwave ovens, cordless phones and other wireless devices. I'm using a newer technology in this computer -- 802.11a -- which uses a higher frequeny link and can theorectically deliver up to 54MBits/sec. Even if it did have the range -- and it could, because we can transmit with significant power at the high end of the band -- its not reactive enough to be safe for a flying model. If the link dropped it could take several seconds to reaquire it, time enough to lose the plane. The idea's good, though. We should be able to do something with the current radio band using commonly available and very inexpensive processors. Our requirements are very modest, in the tens of bits per second. I suppose nothing's been done because of product inertia and regulatory considerations. We should push manufacturers. They're flooding the market with R/C toys -- park fliers -- which are a risk to us all. They need to close the loop so we can all fly without fear. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
Al, I wasn't aware that 50MHz at least was exclusive. I could be wrong but understood that ham operators stay clear of it by understanding rather than legal requirement. It's a small detail and your point stands, it is considerably safer in basically all environments. Craig. - Original Message - From: glide [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety I switched to the ham band almost ten years ago just because I was tired of sharing freqs when I was at the slopes. At the moment, I'm the only one on the slopes that is *legally* using the ham freqs. But that doesn't stop me from asking others what channels they are on and informing others of my channel. One drawback I can think of in having the ham band channels is that rx's are a little more expensive than the 72 mhz counterparts. But at least hams have the legal exclusive rights to the 50 53 mhz r/c channels. Until better frequency management technology is implemented in our hardware, we will always be in danger of being shot down by others who are clueless or don't give a rip. In the meantime, fly at your own risk and hope that the AMA insurance kicks in somewhere down the line. (sounds like quote of the week grin) Aloha to all on RCSE, Al Battad-WH6VE AMA #506981 -Original Message- From: David A. Enete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety Man, look at the technology our computer radios have, and they are so stupid about stomping all over each others frequencies. I know the technology is available to keep this from happening. I for one would pay for it even if it meant buying a new system. Well, you could at least stack the odds in your favor by switching to ham bands. You wouldn't have to lay out a big stack of money, but would again greatly reduce the number of pilots likely to be on your freq. - David [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
I believe that hams the government are the only authorized users of the 50-54 MHz band, and most hams will stick to the voluntary bandplans so I think you are pretty safe if you are on those bands. On another subject, something that will hopefully help eliminate getting shot down, does anybody know if spread spectrum R/C gear is available? That's something I would definitely pay for if it's available and if I can afford it! Brian I wasn't aware that 50MHz at least was exclusive. I could be wrong but understood that ham operators stay clear of it by understanding rather than legal requirement. It's a small detail and your point stands, it is considerably safer in basically all environments. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Phoenix, wing connectors, IHLGF
Hi All, I've soaked a couple of rolls of 150# and 180# mono this week with thoughts of some F3J fun in Phoenix. Of course that fun will have to stop around noon on Friday so that we can get over to the course for nine holes of HLG Golf. Ohhh and there's a TD contest on Saturday and Sunday ;-) If you've recently placed an order for Hoopes Wing Connectors and I've received your order, it has been shipped. If you ask me about wing connectors during the next couple of days, don't expect an immediate answer. I won't be picking up email, answering email, or returning any phone calls. I'm going to have some fun and do a bit of flying this weekend (see above). On another note, with the recent departures or significantly reduced production of some of the competition DLG planes, the challenge for the next IHLGF this coming summer will not be, who can launch the highest? But rather, who can get a plane, any plane that is 1.5M span, can be discus launched, weighs 9 ounces, has four servos and flies well. H, maybe this will force some to learn how to design, build, and fine tune. It is actually a good bit of fun. Your other option is to apply for the servant position as posted by Denny Maize or Don Peters. We shall see. Just looking to escape the Winter Olympic madness for a spell. Rain, sleet, 50 degrees in Phoenix? Tropical. Tom Hoopes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
