Re: [RCSE] TD contest thoughts
Speaking of ideas for TD contests... You all know Harley Michaelis right? (RDS System for control linkages) Check out the description of his Thermal Wizard slant to the Eastern Washington NWSS contests..sort of a contest within a contest. http://www.aracnet.com/~eastwind/nwss/mainpages/wizard.htm Russ Young Bellevue, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Scale Soaring List [RCSE] ventus
The only one I know that carries the nose tow release now is Hobby Lobby, they carried two sizes get the larger size. See this site: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/towing.htm Steve Dentz -Original Message- From: Tim Vandenheuvel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scale Soaring List [RCSE] ventus Hi all, About 9 months ago I picked up a 1/3 Elfe-S4 fuse from Wil Byers at SE Modeler also. It's from Rosenthal, and it is beautiful! The price was unbeatable too!. In fact I too am looking for a scale pilot and all the fixin's. Hopefully you guys can help me, right now I am looking for a tow release mechanism. I would like the metal units that fit in the nose. The tow line is placed into the release mechanism and the servo actuates a arm that captures the towline. I'm sure you guys know what I am looking for, but I'm not sure they have a name. Regards, Tim From: brent douglas I heard you were looking for a scale project, guess it's official now ; ) I bought a ventus fuse from wil byers, SEModeler . the rosenthal version (1/3.5 scale) -it's beautifulhe also has full kits, and has access to more than he advertises I'd give him a call good luck! brent From: Shape Does anyone have a Ventus 2C from www.aero-model.com , the 177 model, and what do you think of it? Jerry _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84vUU.a94ZkA Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] 32nd Annual Snow Fly
Remember it is on SATURDAY at the TWS field. I have had a couple of people ask me about Sunday so I thought another message was in order. Also, remember to bring water as the water at the clubhouse is turned off for the winter. Art Slagle tells me the temps will be around 40 so if the wind is less than gale force, it is starting to look good. Come and have a coffee and donut on us even if you don't fly, the social gathering is nice. Jack Iafret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Discus launching, what to look for?
From: Tracy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Discus launching, what to look for? Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:31:10 -0600 Andy: The kits are expensive due to the time it takes to manufacture them. Materials costs also play a factor especially when they use Kevlar and carbon weave materials in them. The Dream Catcher #5 ARF has a Kevlar-Carbon fiber wing. It only sells for $125.00 or so. Sorry, it just does not make sense to me, why others costs $220.00 - over $350.00. I still have not had my first question answered. What do I need to look for? I am not talking about, well XX person flies this model, that happened to be given to them by the manufacture to fly. I am not talking about a mag. review, I understand that the only requirement for getting a review, is do you run ads in that mag. then we will run a review of your products. Yes, I hear the marketing talking, trying to convenience me that a $350.00 model is worth that much money. Help is what I'm looking for, not some marketing hype, just facts, please. Things that will help me understand, what I'm doing. If I get time this week end, I'll borrow a Laser Range finder and see if I can come up with a launch height. Andy _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] TD contest thoughts.
I can assure you there is no way that that poly can compete! You need a Dark Star. http://www.mvsaclub.com/articles/dark_star2.htm It cannot be launched anywhere near the height of the composites (not strong enough!) The Dark Star and numerous other poly ships can be zoomed as hard as any unlimited plane and has nowhere near the legs to search out the thermals same answer. The number of dihedral breaks or control surfaces has nothing to do with the strength of the wings or the plane's penetration. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] ZAGI 400X expletive deleted!!!!
Sorry for the off topic post, but would the list admins be willing able to filter profanity for those of us who do not wish to read it? I know we can't filter subjects, but I do know I am not the only person on the list who does not like profanity. Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] DLG finger pegs
I believe the 40 lbs, but we're only talking a beam that is cantilevered about .7 or so, aren't we? I'd figure the stress if I had my Machinery's Handbook handy or if I had worked with beam theory more recently. I just picked up a winch battery with two popsicle sticks under the handle and two fingers on each one (i.e. as you would hold a dlg). Seems like just a little thicker and it would do the job, and be very easy to streamline. Or is that too heavy? I've got to think it would be a fraction of a gram, or so my guesstimate calculations say (.06 X .25 X 1.5, 45lb/ft^3, .27g) Joe Jan Wurts wrote: By my calcs (and sore fingers to testify), a good launch will get about 40 lbs or more of pull on the tip. It is really hard to get wood to take this amount of loading. As to the lower drag solution of the streamlined shapes, this is attractive, excepting that it is hard to do, and still keep light. Low yaw inertia is very important in a DLG, and the streamlined peg adds weight. Joe - Original Message - From: Lincoln Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] DLG finger pegs I don't understand why everyone makes these things so strong! It only has to be stronger than your fingers, doesn't it? Why not wood (say, maple, spruce, bamboo)? And why not carved in a nice, low drag shape instead of the circular cross section which is about as draggy as you can get? I haven't made my dlg yet, tho. John Erickson wrote: Rick, snip For the peg itself solid carbon rod, about 3/16 D. seems to be popular. I've seen some that are a more aerodynamic shape and if you are trying to squeeze everything out of the plane, that is worth investigating. I did one where I crushed a 3/8 D. aluminum tube in a vise and then put a rod on the inside for support, and filled the void with microballoons. Nice shape, but too heavy. You really don't want any weight out at the tips. You probably could also take something like the old 1/2 carbon wing joiner that you broke when you switched from Mode 2 to Mode 1 during a flight (that wasn't you? Oh yeah, that was me with my Edge...) and sand away till you get a foiled peg. Pretty messy job. Carbon fiber dust has to be right up there with asbestos as far as health quality goes. Maybe laminating some strips of pre-preg might work, too. I'm sure there are many ideas (and attempts) at a foiled peg. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA -- Lincoln Ross RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lincoln Ross RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: For sale, Infinity 660 transmitter and receivers - 50 mHz
Airtronics equipment for sale Infinity 660 transmitter in excellent condition with two battery packs and transmitter module on channel 02 (50 mHz) with two #92698 PCM six channel receivers on the same frequency. Complete package $300 postpaid CONUS Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA soon to be Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Cirrus 2 Meter ARF
Has anyone flown or reviewed this airplane from Hobby People/Global ?? They don't bother to say what airfoil it is. I looked through the manual and she looks pretty good. Comments? Regards,Perry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] test post
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RE: [RCSE] DLG finger pegs
Here's an idea: if you can use a disposable material for your peg, just put a loose hole in the tip and let the peg drop away after launch. I suppose this could be annoying in contests with lots of people nearby, tho. brent wrote: and i guess, why a peg? i've seen several german sites, and they use indentations, or even holes has anyone here experimented with that? the nicer ones are about dime sized, maybe a quarter to a half inch deep i think that would be a nice alternative. just wanted to stir things up, brent -- Lincoln Ross RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Full House Setup for Newbie..
Just getting into my first fullhouse glider. I would desire info on building (how to glue in those long pushrods..), servo installation on obechi and composite ships, and how to set up flaps ,ailerons etc. I know how to program the radio, but how to use the surfaces, coupling and CROW during setup and flight Is there any book or websites or other sources of info??? Thanks in advance! Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Full House Setup for Newbie..
Robert, From: Robert Marlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just getting into my first fullhouse glider. I would desire info on building (how to glue in those long pushrods..), servo installation on obechi and composite ships, and how to set up flaps ,ailerons etc. I know how to program the radio, but how to use the surfaces, coupling and CROW during setup and flight Is there any book or websites or other sources of info??? Congratulations on your purchase. A few (hopefully) useful answers: First things first. Get an expert in your local area to show and explain. You will get a lot more mileage out of a local then through email. You might even make a new friend. Servo installation in wings: - put some kind of floor in the servo well, or use a servo can. - many glue the servos into the wing. - method 1: mix 5 minute epoxy micro-balloons. Put a small dot in the center of the servo mash it in. - method 2: wrap the servo with a piece of masking tape, that you can cut off, if you need to get the servo out. - method 3: wrap the servo with a strip of heat shrink tubing, for same purpose. - method 4: cut the hole in the wing 'exactly' the same as the shape of the servo. Use shims of foam to ensure a snug fit. Put a tape servo cover over it and call it done. - better have your wiring done before gluing. - most radios expect the servos on opposite wings to be facing opposite directions. In other words, both servo arms should be facing the fuse (or both facing the tips). Check and re-check your installation before you start gluing. - aileron servo neutral is with the arm straight down. - I prefer my flap servo neutral about 10-15 degrees towards the back of the plane. At full flap deflection, there is almost no load on the gear train. (the load is on the bearing). - plan on metal geared servos for the flaps, unless you're proficient at pulling the flaps up the moment you land. Good way to strip gears. Pushrods: - make sure they are straight as they snake through the fuse - consider placing a piece of stiff music wire inside the pushrod tube, while you are gluing. It will help keep the tube straight. Obviously, take it out replace with a real pushrod when done. - method 1. Put a band masking tape every 4 to 5 along the outer tube. Hang the tube where you want it inside the fuse. Drizzle CA down the tube and it will stick where the tape is. Do this outside or in the garage as some CA will drip to the floor. - method 2. My choice. Use Goop (any kind) to stick the tube to the sidewall. Put several blobs on the tube. Carefully insert, and line up the tube where you want it. Set fuse on it's side let dry for 24 hours. - method 3. Use any glue you like (goop suggested), but apply with a long dowel. A mess, and a pain, but it can be done. - it's likely your pushrod will stick out free near the servos. Consider supporting the pushrods with a scrap of balsa, either to the fuse or the servo tray. You don't want any room for the pushrod to move from side-to-side. Leave 1-2 of the end free, though. General plane instructions: - get a set of instructions for a Sapphire. About the best I've seen. This plane is obechi, so lots of methods on that, too. Crow: The basics of crow is you want the flaps 80-90 degrees down, and the ailerons somewhat up. How much varies by pilot's taste. Probably 10-20 degrees. You also want a fair bit of down elevator compensation. Try it out at high altitude, and a normal thermalling speed (not high speed). The plane should not pitch up or down when you pull the flap stick. Personally, I prefer a slight amount of down.You will probably want negative aileron differential in this mode, as the ailerons physically may not be able to go up any more. This differential only applies in landing mode. The Airtronics radios have special differential settings just for landing, so this is almost automatic. Also be aware when landing with crow enabled, you are in a high-drag, high lift configuration. If you suddenly retract the flaps, the plane will probably fall out of the air. This is what you want when you are 12 high and right over the landing spot. Probably not what you want at other times. Radio setup: Don Edberg had a yellow book on programming computer radios. It has a strong glider bias, and is a great resource, if you can find one. Out of print. Was about $15. His web site is http://www.flash.net/~dynamic3/ Looks Don's new books (which focus entirely on Futaba radios) have this info too. The website lists at least one chapter only on gliders. If you can't get that, then try the Airtronics Vision manual (only 8 pages). It's a concise and solid reference that gives a good explanation. Both of these explain what you want the surfaces to do, when, and why. I think the what, when, and why is the info you're after. Since you said you know how to program your radio. There is just too much info on glider setup to explain in an email.
RE: [RCSE] Full House Setup for Newbie..
I have to say the best tip I was ever given when setting up my first full house was this. Masking tape your servos in place in the wing and finish all of your programming. Make sure all surfaces give you the required amount of travel, and that your flaps come close to 90 degrees etc, and that they track down together at the same rate etc. Check, check, and recheck all of this before they are glued in! It will save some serious headaches. Also, I dont know Jon Stone personally but his post was a great one. Lots of good info in there so read it a couple of times! Nick Wisdom Orlando, FL RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] kudos to Jon Stone
I am wrapping up a full house scratch built and much of what you said is very helpful for me (and many others, I'm sure). Good-on-ya Martin
Re: [RCSE] Comments on Victory SE or C.
A good, reliable, durable and inexpensive bagged sailplane. dhaskins2 wrote: I would like any comments on the Victory SE or C from Northeast Sailplanes. Thanks Dave H. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Full House Setup for Newbie..
One more thought on servo installation in the wings. Make sure that matching pairs of flap servos (ailerons also) are installed in exactly the same way. That means that both servos have the same length arms, and both point to the exact same angle when at neutral. This will save you a lot of headaches later. Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Full House Setup for Newbie..
In a message dated 02/13/2002 10:01:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ust getting into my first fullhouse glider. I would desire info on building (how to glue in those long pushrods..), servo installation on obechi and composite ships, and how to set up flaps ,ailerons etc. I know how to program the radio, but how to use the surfaces, coupling and CROW during setup and flight Is there any book or websites or other sources of info??? Thanks in advance! Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's a link you can get lost in, compiled by our intrepid list boss: http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Aviation/Model_Aviation/Radio_Controlled/Soaring/ Have fun! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] ZAGI 400X expletive deleted!!!!
Get Eudora. You can filter messages by whatever words you like. It even uses logic to figure out which messages are Hot and rates them by chillis. At 08:12 PM 2/13/2002 -0800, Brian Jarchow wrote: Sorry for the off topic post, but would the list admins be willing able to filter profanity for those of us who do not wish to read it? I know we can't filter subjects, but I do know I am not the only person on the list who does not like profanity. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] for sale.....
hi guys. i have the following stuff for sale. i will prefer paypal if not money orders. fma fortress fm reciever like new used on hlg about 20 flights channel 14 50 shipped jeti 350 like new..50 shipped futaba skysport buddybox tx with trainer cord48 shipped. or all for 125 shipped. first come first serve. thanks for the badwidth. luis RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
