Re: [RCSE] Servo battery use
Thanks all who replied to my questions. Much appreciated. Izak
[RCSE] OLEG GOLOVIDOV IS MISSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dudes and Dudettes We need to enlist your help to try to find our friend Oleg. Last seen on Sunday September 29th at the CASA 2 day HL in Rockville MD. Hasn't been seen since. There was one report of a Volvo Station Wagon sighted in a rest area along interstate 95. It's driver appeared to be carressing something that looked like the East Coast Triad trophy. When approached he sped off in a southerly direction still clutching the object with a tight lipped grin on his face and a glow in his eyes:-) CONGRATS, O. Denny Maize www.Polecataero.com 717-789-0146 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Range check
Well, I dunno. What you seem to be asking is: I know the 'duck' is not the best antenna, but is it 'good enough'?. Well, Is it? The makers of your radio most likely don't make the antenna. They have to buy it. When designing the transmitter, they have options. The antenna they use is a practical compromise. Certainly, there are better antennae then the telescoping whip we usually see on the tranny. It is a decent antenna, is not too expensive and is not so cumbersom so as to be un wieldy. Obviously, a shorter antenna is more desirable then a long one. If a 'duck' satisfied their requirements, wouldn't you think they would use one, or at least offer one? Just my $.02 worth. .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Dave Seay wrote: I lost a 2M moldie yesterday. Had flown it 6 times that morning without a problem. On the 'last' launch, the controls were, in hind-sight, a little eratic during the launch and it seemed I have no control as it completed the launch. The plane spiraled in boom! I use a Stylus with a rubber duck attenna about 2 years old. After the the crash, we did a range check (difficult to get anything meaning full w/ the duck installed. Changing to the regular antenna leaving it down, the range check was good). We checked out the batteries and they were good. Patchworking the connectors back together, everything seemed to work except one flap servo (although it is working today!) However, both flaps were in the fully retracted position so it is unlikely that was the problem. There were several possibilities but nothing we could definitely say as the point. So, this AM I did a better range check in the street in front of my house and wanted to pass the results to the group and ask for opinions. The distance from my house to the end of the street is a straight shot between 2 and 3/10's of a mile ( probably about 1250') withou;t any cars or other obstructions. Using the duck, the servos went snakey at about 1000' and that's with the tip pointed at the plane (tried the side too). I swapped out the duck for the standard antenna and had full control all the way to the end of the street. The regular antenna is obviously better than the duck but is this an unfair test? Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] JR8103 for sale
For a flying bud. NIB 300 bucks includes an 8 ch receiver Used to set up an airplane, then replaced with a Profi 4000 Thanks Jack Jack Strother LSF President Loveland, OHLSF 2948 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Servo battery use
I set up the spoiler so that the full throttle position has spoiler closed, as in fast. Spoilers deploy as the stick is pulled to idle. As to servo drain. There is always an idle current on the order of a few milliamps for the electronics. The main drain is moving the motor. The worst drain is a stalled motor. When the transmitter calls for the servo to move, the drain goes up as the motor runs. When the servo is at the desired position, it stops and the drain goes down. However, if the required position cannot be reached, the servo stops due to a mechanical stop, the current rises to alarming levels. THis is one reason your JR transmitter has no trim at full throttle an good trim at 50% and below. You rarely need to make changes in the high throttle setting, (once set up during installation so the servo stops just before the throttle hits the 'high' limit), but you want to adjust the idel with trim. Spoilers are the same. Set the spoilers up so that they do not require the servo to hold them closed. Use a spring, or magnets for this. Use the sevo to 'open' the spoilers .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Izak Theron wrote: I'm not electronically minded so pardon the ignorant question. I'd like to know if a servo consumes battery power only when moving or does it also consume power to hold position at a certain angle? The reason I'm asking is I'm scratch building a Sagitta 900 and was thinking of the mechanics of the spoiler setup. I will be flying the plane on my JR421EX and obviously the spoiler has to be setup on the throttle stick. Do you setup the spoilers so that full throttle has the spoilers fully closed and to deploy them you have to pull back on the throttle? In this configuration my concern is that the servo may draw unneccesary power hence my first question. Thanks Izak --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 19/09/02 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] New shop equipment
That is a fantastic addition. I watched a DYI channel show on shop dust collection several weeks back. Not only did they show you how to build your own sanding box but they also featured a couple different air filtration units. One was overkill but they also had a Ridgid unit that could be moved around the shop and was pretty quiet to operate. I have yet to see it at Home Depot though. Kevin At 04:01 PM 9/30/2002 -0500, James Vaello wrote: One thing besides my suggestion of a microwave is a sanding table for dust collection. I used to have one in an old shop and it consists of a pegboard top, and a box underneath. If you hook up your shop vac to the box, you get a mild vacuum along the top of the pegboard, and keep alot of the dust out of the air. Just a sugegstion, you milage may vary. James From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] New shop equipment Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:53:06 -0700 Two more Good points. Electrical outlets! I keep most all my hand tools hanging on the edge of my building table. Constantly plugging and unplugging different tools is inconvenient and yields a tangled mess. Right now I've got 12 outlets and 9 are in use. Ventilation is occasionally very important. A great idea that will occasionally be immensely useful. Another suggestion is Shelving! Lots of it. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Stylus problem part 2
Dear Ed and RCSE gurus: Could the weak or dying lithium battery syndrome cause centering problems on other radios too? Once in a while my JR 783 does odd things about centering control surfaces. - Original Message - From: Ed Franz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:29 PM Subject: [RCSE] Stylus problem part 2 A while back I posted about my Stylus having problems centering. Well, I talked to Airtronics and they knew about the problem. It seems when the lithium battery in the transmitter starts to go bad the lack of centering is one of the signs. I sent in my radio and today was the first time I have used it sense I got it back. What a difference! I had no centering problems at all the whole day. So if your Stylus starts to act funny it is probably time to send it back for the replacement of the lithium battery in the transmitter. I put a small piece of tape with the date I had the battery changed under the module to remind me when I had it done. Airtronics says every three years or so. Ed Franz
RE: [RCSE] New Shop
Sure you'll need outlets, shelving, flat surfaces, etc You'll also want to build in a secret hiding spot for all your airplane money!! -Original Message- From: James Vaello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] New Shop Don't forget the microwave! From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: konstantkrash [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] New Shop Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:18:41 -0700 Put a building surface right in the middle with electrical outlets either on the roof above it or right at the base. Several building surfaces on the sides are also great when you have multiple projects going simultaneously. Also, a fridge, coffee maker, TV and a comfortable chair are quite nice. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. === This message, including attached files, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the use by the individual and/or the entity to which it is addressed. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of, or copying of the information contained herein is not allowed and may lead to irreparable harm and damage for which you may be held liable. If you receive this message in error or if it is intended for someone else please notify the sender by returning this e-mail immediately and delete the message. === RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Sharon 3.6 for sale
Hello, I have a Sharon 3.6 (white with blue trim) that I would like to sell. The aircraft is in excellent condition and flies very well. Overall, the aircraft is fairly low time and I need to sell it to focus on the 2003 F3J Team Selection. I prefer to sell this aircraft with the servos. Wing and tail bags are included. Josh, Here are the costs for a new Sharon. $800 for the plane $370 for the servos (4 JR digital and 2 HS-85 mg) Total cost = $1170 (when it was new) I'd be willing to sell it for $900 (negotiable). Thanks, Josh. Phone Number: (757)864-1159 (days), (757)850-3971 (evenin), (757)870-6720 (cell) Fax Number: (757)864-8857 Postal Address: MS 152, NASA LaRC, Hampton, Va., 23681 Street Address: 24 West Taylor St., B1268A, Room 2146 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New Shop
I am just finishing a room in the basement. This room will be my new shop. It is ~13*15 feet. My question goes out to those who have had a shop, have a shop or who have dreams for a shop. What is important to include in the shop I have built my shop into a 7'x22' Aljo travel trailer ($250.00 used), so I know about using small spaces. The hot wire table is against the rear wall. The rest of the space is storage except for the bandsaw, which doubles as a work table area. The table saw/router table sets up behind the bandsaw and can extend the workspace or be placed out of the way. The storage bin to the side is waist high and narrow and provides additional bench top space. One side wall has a slide rack which is 2x3 metal stud with the open ends of the C shape facing each other. The bottom channel is above a low storage bin and the top channel is 4ft. above it. This allows me to flex 4'x8' sheets of corroplast into the channels and holds it snug against the wall. The bandsaw is a craftsman with the large table that doesn't tilt (the saw part tilts). I have added 3.5 wood rails to the front and back edge of the table for clamping fences and to make the workspace larger. The crosscut guide hangs on the back of the saw and the compressor sits under the saw. I have always used a piece of equipment as a work table, in my old shop it was the table saw and I had a 3'x 4' wooden top for it. I mount my router under one of the wings of the table saw, so the saw doubles as a router table. You can hang all the small tools on the wall behind the work bench/hot wire table area and hang the bows above the small tools since you won't be grabbing them all the time. I have racks that hold the long stock, spars, etc. up high out of the way and I also store foam against the ceiling. I also have a larger table that assembles outside for cutting the 8ft. deltas and has a slot that a skill saw can be clamped into for a second table saw. There is an exhaust fan (gable mount 1500cfm from home desperate $30.00ish) that can be hung on a rear vent behind the hot wire table or above it over the roof vent. I am actually only using about 14ft. of the trailer since the front section is currently set up as a digital recording booth! PS, your shop is palatial in my opinion Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] New Shop
Pin Up calenders!!! Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Visalia room to share
I have a room at the Holiday Inn in Visalia that I can share with someone. The reservation is for Thursday thru Saturday. Please contact me privately. Don Richmond San Diego, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Slope Sites in CT Hudson Valley
Any good slope sites in Southern Connecticut or lower New York State? There have got to be some flyable spots on the cliffs above the Hudson River? Any leads or information is greatly appreciated! I miss Chickies Rock! Steve Pasierb (relocated to Connecticut) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New Shop
Where's the balsa dust, overspray and other assorted dirty things that I always see in my shop? He does build airplanes in his shop, right? tony estep wrote: I'm sure that many RCSE readers have met the formidable Chet Tuthill. After Chet retired, he built himself a dream shop that has most of the goodies that have been mentioned in this thread. To see it, go to: http://chet_tuthill.tripod.com/my%20shop.htm __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] New Shop
In my shop I have a twelve foot by 16 inch glass table on an old straight medium duty extension ladder. This is supported by steel stools on the concrete floor. All cutting and setting of wings are done on this table. This table is set up as a zone off the boiler with output temperature set for a cut at 140'. I do not walk behind it. In addition I have a 30x60 inch table set in the room paralleling the glass table. This table is set to walk around it. I aim shortly to pick up my piece of glass that will make this table a glass table too.The other major piece is the vacuum pump. The radial arm saw and bandsaw are in the cold area on top of the garage. I use the radial arm saw for finishing edges that need to be joined after they are bagged. I find I can get pretty good precision with this. Truthfully there is no need to own this tool if someone you know has one near you and would allow you to install your blade on their saw. I have to go next door for the air compressor The air compressor is used to get the dust all the composite wings to get the last gram of weight off them. It proved very valuable in helping to knock the last few grams off the components to meet the Bubble Dancer challenge - 32 ounces. I have shelves and tool boxes with many other tools that are occasionally used. I have a large fishing tackle box for small parts I have other places to do heavy work and brazing. So basically my shop consists of two glass tables with one heated and a vacuum pump. You have probably guessed that I do everything in glass and carbon. With balsa I will hack for days. New foam stands behind the glass table lengthwise leaning against the wall. Small tools are kept in several tool boxes. I really felt stupid afterwards when someone asked to see my workshop and all there is - two empty tables I am notorious for giving everything away to have a fresh start. But I am very sneaky about this. You give away planes to people that you will see using them. Sometimes it gets embarrassing when someone flies your old plane better than you did. Most of the time though you can evaluate your new production by letting the same people fly them and quietly looking at your watch. The phrase I used to describe the situation is to say that it is politically expedient to keep a low profile All the nice toys tools and planes in the same place can get you in trouble. Theft, insurance, your wife. I need to get that central vac though that Bill has in his list but I will leave the rest scattered over the premises. In addition I am still trying to figure how I am going to finagle a cnc foam cutter into this situation to keep it low key Rick Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:00:38 -0700 From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Bingham [EMAIL PROTECTED], rcse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] New Shop Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In order: Band Saw Belt Sander Drill Press Good Bench Vise Central Vac Grinder Dremel Air Compressor Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Slope Sites in CT Hudson Valley
Yeah. And I miss dodging your plane, or sometimes not, while standing on the lip of the hill! RB - Original Message - From: Steve Pasierb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: [RCSE] Slope Sites in CT Hudson Valley Any good slope sites in Southern Connecticut or lower New York State? There have got to be some flyable spots on the cliffs above the Hudson River? Any leads or information is greatly appreciated! I miss Chickies Rock! Steve Pasierb (relocated to Connecticut) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Slope Sites in CT Hudson Valley
Dude We miss not having you there. The really weird part that drove it all home was when they allowed flying without protective head gear again:-) Denny Maize www.Polecataero.com 717-789-0146 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Wanted: Son of Savage Fiberglass Fuse
Hello, I am looking for a fiberglass fuselage for a 42 Son of Savage. New, used, or repairable. Please reply off list. Thanks, Mike Ashley RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New Shop
airplanes. Any suggestions as far as what should go where??? The one thing I lack in my workshop is height. Sailplanes are big -- long wing halves, long fuses -- and its all to easy to hit the ceiling (or worse, the ceiling fan) with them. Its difficult working on a 3meter in my workshop even though its 10*14. The most important tool in my workshop is a small hand vac. I try to get dust and wood chips before they get everywhere. I don't try to do serious sanding indoors, maybe a purpose built dust extractor would make it feasible. (But I live in SoCal so I've got the outdoors for 300+ days a year) The most important thing in my workshop is space. Its also the most difficult to keep. I find that my wife tends to put anything in there that is associated with me, however vaguely, no matter how irrellevant to building planes. I think I need a second decoy workshop. I definitely need a more convenient storage area, one adjacent to the workshop. Storing planes in the workshop clutters it up and risks damaging them. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New Shop
Check out the Yahoo CNC group. My CNC will be based around heavy duty full extension drawer slides and a camo painted PC monitor I got from a young friend! Very low key... Mike Freshwater CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
