[RCSE] For Sale Airtronics Vision 8 SP

2004-11-23 Thread Michael Morjoseph




Since I have so many Vision Radios which I use many 
of them I am going
to sell one of them it has a 8 sailplane model 
memory Airtronics and is in good shape
price is 250.00 with shipping
email me if interested thanks
Mike.M
Team SWSA
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[RCSE] Winch launching... thanks!

2004-11-23 Thread Jeff Gortatowsky
All the negative stuff that gets posted where (some deserved Roy!) I thought
I post a positive I learned right here.

To the person who posted a few weeks ago, or months, whatever, about changing
to my left foot for the pedal since I launch right handed. THANK FRIGGIN
YOU I think he was with the CRRC. 

For me winching launching was a frightening experience every single time.
When launching with my right foot I'd stumble backwards or otherwise lose
balance 50% of the time. I approached winching each time with trepidation. I
switch to standing sideways with my left shoe on the pedal and tossing the
plane almost over my head as it pulls. It works GREAT! 

Knock on wood, now launching is no big deal. I just have to work on throwing
it straight ahead (I tend to toss it to the left - sometimes WAY to the
left). Really I don't recall your name, but thanks. That article was a
revelation and shows again, sometimes the net is worth is weight in gold. :)

Best wishes,


=
---
Jeffrey D. Gortatowsky
La Habra Heights, California 

"Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them first for 
seven hours, they always come out tender. " - W.C. Fields
"What wretched scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch?" - W.C. Fields
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[RCSE] Re: Dwyer Liar

2004-11-23 Thread Tomsaflyer



I still have mine from 10 years ago. Probably as accurate now as it was 
then. 8-)  Really can't complain for my ten bucks. Really impressive to 
newbies. 8-)  Have fun everybody.
  
Tom  Ramirez


Re: [RCSE] Opinions on Falcon 600

2004-11-23 Thread George Gillburg
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Does anyone remember the Mark Allen Falcon 600?  Any comments about how it
flies?  Anyone build one electric?
thanks-
Kristopher
 

I remember the Falcon 600 well.  I flew one in 2m for several years and 
really liked the way it flew.  Bob McGowen flew one for many years and 
could beat most unlimited ships with it.  Built straight and properly 
set up, they are a very nice flying 2m full house sailplane.  The one 
piece wing is a bit of a nuisance in getting it in and out of your shop 
(watch out for doorways) and it needs something a bit bigger than a 
small car to carry it comfortably, although I did carry mine in my 
Celica Hatchback.   The electric conversion is doable, I suppose but it 
will be really tight fitting the batteries in that small, slim 
fuselage.  Personally, I'd just build it as a pure sailplane and enjoy 
it.  I think you'll really like it.

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[RCSE] The value of a Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



so I have to wonder, outside of having a cool gadget, 
would one of these digitals or Dwyer tubes actually be of much real USE to 
me?
For TD?Nope but its the season to buy silly stuff we are likely never 
to use especially for $10 :-)For Slope Racing and I suppose F3J and 
F3B, where wind equals launch line tactics.
 
For TDThe 'grand' idea is to be able to check the wind speed and then 
calculate the exact amount of ballast needed for your particular sailplane, best 
done by leaving the field and sitting in front of the CRT... :-)
 
When in fact most of us would rather just fly.
Having calculated the exact wing loading won't get us another minute of 
task time or 10 more landing points...practicing in high winds will.  

 
Having practiced in crappy high wind weather, then it becomes clear what 
the 'value' of ballast is.
Gordy


Re:Re: [RCSE] Alternate Source for the Digital Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread MSu1049321


I was wondering myself about just how useful these are, especially the 
lower-priced ones. For some time now I have been eyeing the Dwyer clear plastic 
tube/pith ball type meters in the Sporty's Pilot Shop catalogs and Hobby-Lobby 
web 
site... I have so far always wound up prioritizing for something else like an 
extra servo, etc.

  I take it these radio shack models are  not anemometer types,  but use some 
kind of thermistor or similar sensor? Haven't seen any yet.  I usually as a 
rule don't try to fly in over 20 MPH winds... I can *DO* it, but the extra 
worry about damage and repair costs or losing it landing off-field takes too 
much 
of the fun out of it for me, EPP or not. I have enough good visual cues around 
my neighborhood: powerplant smokestacks. high flagpoles, treetops, etc...  
that I can tell pretty well if it's go or no-go conditions from my driveway, 
and 
I don't have any slopes available to me... so I have to wonder, outside of 
having a cool gadget, would one of these digitals or Dwyer tubes actually be of 
much real USE to me?

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Re: [RCSE] La Crosse Wind Gauge Site

2004-11-23 Thread Mike Remus



How do you know if they are calibrated correctly?  :~)
 
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:44:08 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Thanks for finding this one Bill, it is truly a nice piece...if 
  you are dying to know the wind speed.  It looks like it is definitely 
  worth the $40 or so (didn't check on shipping).  Here's the address for 
  it http://www.weatherconnect.com/product.asp?itmky=441601.
   
  The RS unit is still $9.99 and likely good enough to tell IF 
  there is wind :-) but if you need or want to know the speed exactly, 
  apparently we'll have to pay more for that:-)
  Gordy
   Mike RemusLOFT Glider ClubFort Wayne 
INLSF Level 5 #112Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream 
Lofty dreams!


Re: [RCSE] Alternate Source for the Digital Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread rich.speroni



Of what I read about part # 64-1119 it's only good for top speed of 30 mph. 
Probably be good for flyers on east coast, but out west wind starts at 30.
Rich

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:19 
  PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Alternate Source for the 
  Digital Wind Gauge
  
  http://www.science-city.com/diwiga.html
   
  About $20 from these guys, so go phone hunting with your local RS's for 
  their close out version.
  Gordy


[RCSE] compulsion Assembly instructions

2004-11-23 Thread John Measamer








All,

 

Thanks for the response for my call for assembly instructions
for the Compulsion.  I received several
copies and am now set.  Hope to see you
all next year on the thermal circuit. 

 

Have a Happy Thanksgiving

 

John








RE: [RCSE] Alternate Source for the Digital Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread Buddy Roos



 
Science City also sells a Thermal Locator 
like the Free Flight guys 
use!
 
http://www.science-city.com/lifxtrbufxbu.html
 
Buddy
 
 
 -Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:20 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [RCSE] Alternate Source 
for the Digital Wind Gauge

  http://www.science-city.com/diwiga.html
   
  About $20 from these guys, so go phone hunting with your local RS's for 
  their close out version.
  Gordy


Re: [RCSE] Alternate Source for the Digital Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread Ray Hayes
The guys that going flying with an "Old Buzzard Goes Soaring " book under
their arm.


Ray Hayes
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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:36 PM
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> Who needs a gadget to tell about the wind at your flying site anyway?  A
> hand full of loose grass and a nearby flags is trustworthy enough for me
> :~)
>
> Mike Remus
> LOFT Glider Club
> Fort Wayne IN
> LSF Level 5 #112
> Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream Lofty dreams!
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:19:45 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> http://www.science-city.com/diwiga.html
>
> About $20 from these guys, so go phone hunting with your local RS's for
> their close out version.
>
> Gordy
>
>
> Mike Remus
> LOFT Glider Club
> Fort Wayne IN
> LSF Level 5 #112
> Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream Lofty dreams!


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[RCSE] Old Favorite Dwyer Liar.

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Swingle
Ya know, the old tried an true unit from Dwyer. Jokingly referred to as the
Dwyer Liar really isn't bad. It doesn't require batteries, isn't fragile and
costs about $9.95.

It'll tell ya if there's wind. Plus, I can ya from personal experience that
when you're standing on the slope in gale force winds, it does a fine job of
providing a strong sense of satisfaction when that little indicator ball
slams against the maximum reading of 65MPH.

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA



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[RCSE] Another Wind Gauge, same but cheaper :-)

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



http://www.provantage.com/buy-7lcrs05n-handheld-anemometer-weather-channel-logo-la-crosse-technology-ea-3010twc-shopping.htm
 
$33 and a good one :-)
Gordy


[RCSE] La Crosse Wind Gauge Site

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



Thanks for finding this one Bill, it is truly a nice piece...if you 
are dying to know the wind speed.  It looks like it is definitely worth the 
$40 or so (didn't check on shipping).  Here's the address for it http://www.weatherconnect.com/product.asp?itmky=441601.
 
The RS unit is still $9.99 and likely good enough to tell IF there 
is wind :-) but if you need or want to know the speed exactly, apparently we'll 
have to pay more for that:-)
Gordy


[RCSE] Starlight model parts, lost his email from west coast,help!

2004-11-23 Thread RBurnoski
Ive lost the email name for my west coast connection for Starlight model 
parts. We talked about 2- 3 months ago.

Or if anyone else has parts they would like to part with,,, please contact 
me!  thanks

Richard Burnoski
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[RCSE] La Crosse price correction

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Swingle
Oops, I meant ~40$.

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


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Re: [RCSE] Alternate Wind Gauge Supplier

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Swingle
The LaCrosse unit seems to be ~35$.

http://www.weatherconnect.com


Bill Swingle



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[RCSE] need .950 O.D. brass tube

2004-11-23 Thread D Hauch
Hi,
I'm makeing some ballast slugs and need this size tubing.
Looking for thin sidewalls.

My hobby shop has nothing this big.
Anyone know of a source?

Thanks,
Dave Hauch
Mich.
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Re: [RCSE] Alternate Source for the Digital Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread BrowneCG



You can usually get a Radio Shack store to do a computer search on 
where are the nearest stores which have out-of-stock items.  I did 
this in the Austin area today, and did find one store which had a few (I bought 
most of them for the Austin Silent Flyers members).


[RCSE] Alternate Wind Gauge Supplier

2004-11-23 Thread RegDave
There appears to be an alternate supplier for  the discontinued RS unit but 
at ~  $20:
http://www.science-city.com/diwiga.html

For about 2X there's  the La Crosse Technology EA-3010 Handheld Wind Meter. 
At $40 (from several  retailers) it's about the lowest priced unit using 
anemometer technology. Range  is 0.4 to ~ 67 mph. Google for several different 
suppliers. I don't have one  (yet) but La Crosse is generally OK stuff. 

Starts to get out of the  'quick-buy' range but maybe for a holiday wish list?

Gotta get back to my  worms..

- Dave R  

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[RCSE] Opinions on Falcon 600

2004-11-23 Thread kharig
Does anyone remember the Mark Allen Falcon 600?  Any comments about how it
flies?  Anyone build one electric?

thanks-
Kristopher

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[RCSE] Louisville Area RS stores have Wind Gauges

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



I just called and their computers show that local stores have about a dozen 
of them on hand, can't imagine they'll fly off the shelf, so if some one wants 
one and can't find it locally, contact me and I'll see about getting one for 
you.
Gordy


Re: [RCSE] Alternate Source for the Digital Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread Mike Remus



Who needs a gadget to tell about the wind at your flying site anyway?  
A hand full of loose grass and a nearby flags is trustworthy enough for me  
:~)
Mike RemusLOFT Glider ClubFort Wayne INLSF Level 5 
#112Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream Lofty 
dreams!
 
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:19:45 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  http://www.science-city.com/diwiga.html
   
  About $20 from these guys, so go phone hunting with your local RS's for 
  their close out version.
  Gordy
   Mike RemusLOFT Glider ClubFort Wayne 
INLSF Level 5 #112Remember; Dreams are the seedlings of reality. Dream 
Lofty dreams!


[RCSE] Alternate Source for the Digital Wind Gauge

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



http://www.science-city.com/diwiga.html
 
About $20 from these guys, so go phone hunting with your local RS's for 
their close out version.
Gordy


Re: [RCSE] Re: Wind Meter and ...

2004-11-23 Thread RegDave
<>
 
Yup, that's the one. Looks like a really neat unit but it's discontinued  
(verified at local RS this PM). So if you can find it on the shelf, grab it  
while you can. Additional product info:
 
_http://support.radioshack.com/support_radios/doc71/71427.pdf_ 
(http://support.radioshack.com/support_radios/doc71/71427.pdf) 
 
There's gotta be an alternate supplier somewhere!
 
- Dave R
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[RCSE] Found a RS Wind Gauge Review on the web

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



From what it says, the Radio Shack unit is 'worth' about $9.99 
:-(
I have seen one on the flying field and it did tell us wind speed 
and direction, but was it 'real' speed? Not sure, thats the fun of doing reviews 
:-)
Gordy
 
From the review below, it was originally $29.99, the reduced to 
$19.99, I got it for $9.99, and likely other Radio Shacks will have it at this 
price.  
You can always take it back if its not an 
"anemometer"-)
 
http://www.windsurfingradio.com/digest/v1.1/review.html


Re: [RCSE] "Pity the fool who missed out on the Radio Shack..."

2004-11-23 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 02:25 PM 11/23/2004, you wrote:
  Radio Shack's info: Digital Sport Wind
Gauge with Built-In Flashlight Catalog # 63-1119
Sure looks like it IS discontinued...course so were the Talking Timers and 
they showed up on the web.

But before they disappeared, I swooped into most of the RS's in the USA 
and bought up all I could find :-).

Let your fingers do the walking and call various Shacks in your 
neighboring areas or your distant friends areas, to see if their stores 
have one.

Gordy
My local Radio Shack was able to order one for me back in September.  Never 
hurts to try.

Chuck Anderson

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Re: [RCSE] air travel, transporting RC a/c

2004-11-23 Thread Chuck Anderson
I have used an archery bow case for about a dozen trips from Nashville 
Tennessee to Sacramento, California while flying on three different 
airlines without damage to a model.  The bow case was checked as luggage 
without additional charge.  Paid less than $30 for mine at Kmart about 10 
years ago.  Maximum length of any component is limited to about 52 
inches.  My models all had four piece wings with a 48 inch long 
fuselage.  The last one was designed to fit in the bow case and had a 132 
inch wing span when assembled.

Chuck Anderson
At 11:26 PM 11/19/2004, you wrote:
What have people come up as far as novel methods for transporting a/c
for jet-travel?
I went to Illinois, where I had a GP Slinger ("flying wing") mailed to
my address.  Darn thing was so well thought out, I had the thing
assembled quickly (some people claim 30 minutes)..2 wing sections
connected with slip-fit Al tubes & wings taped together.  Almost like
these fancy glider ships (wings slip-fit with reinforcement rods,
followed by some "tape").
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2922634
"I had the kit shipped to me in Illinois, built it, & flew for my
friends. Then, I disassembled it, & took the Slinger box as a carry-on
back home to California. The modular system made the Slinger a portable
e-flier for jet-travel. No hassle in packing a 48" wing (say, as a
check-in)."
So, I guess I found a plane which could be assembled/disassembled
quickly..& be taken as a *carry-on*.  Not a check-in.  I remember
seeing the European fliers at the HLG World Meet (Poway, CA): lots of
fancy cases shipped as check-in? (or was it pre-shipped freight).  I
used the original box, which came out 48" (l+w+h), which is technically
3" over the 45" limit for AA (American Airlines) carry-on.  I could
stash it in the front of the plane, in the closet where business-types
put their suit-hangars.
I'd like to hear some "examples" where people have used innovative
transportable a/c and/or creative packing techniques to transport on an
airline.  Some of these smaller e-planes could be squeezed into a
carryon.  I was in Illinois (breezy & windy), so the 48" wing was
pretty much the smallest plane I could use.  I had a devil of a time
flying the wing in those swirly midwestern winds, it was a completely
different feel from where I usually fly (Rose Bowl in Pasadena).
That's a question I have.  At those big glider meets, how do people
transport these big gliders?  Do they pay extra for a check-in box
which can accomadate those planes?
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[RCSE] "Pity the fool who missed out on the Radio Shack..."

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



  Radio Shack's info: Digital Sport Wind Gauge with Built-In 
Flashlight Catalog # 63-1119
 
Sure looks like it IS discontinued...course so were the Talking Timers and 
they showed up on the web.
But before they disappeared, I swooped into most of the RS's in the USA 
and bought up all I could find :-).
 
Let your fingers do the walking and call various Shacks in your neighboring 
areas or your distant friends areas, to see if their stores have one.
Gordy
 


Re: [RCSE] "I pity the boy who ain't got a Radio Shack...."

2004-11-23 Thread Jack Womack
Gordy's full of... uh... ballast... yeah, that's it.

hehe!

JW
--- Ray Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gordy,
> 
> I hope your review includes a ballast chart for all
> the popular sailplanes
> IE:
> 
>   Windspeed/ballast
> Windspeed/ballast   you get
> the idea ??
> 
> Compulsion10 Mph / 12 oz 14 Mph
> / 18 oz  etc..
> 
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving Turkey, see you on the OVSS
> circuit next year.
> 
> 
> Ray Hayes
> http://www.skybench.com
> Home of Wood Crafters
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:23 AM
> Subject: [RCSE] "I pity the boy who ain't got a
> Radio Shack"
> 
> 
> > Wind Meter!
> >
> > Get this part $9.99!
> >
> > It even has a LED flashlight in the bottom. Smart
> device and made so  that
> it
> > can bang around in your flight bag with nothing to
> get damaged.
> >
> > Yup, an upcoming RC Soaring Digest Review ;-)
> >
> > Gordy
> >
> 
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[RCSE] Re: Wind Meter

2004-11-23 Thread RegDave
<>
 


Do you have a specific part number? I went looking for this  last month and 
was told it was a discontinued item that could only be found in  stores that 
still had left over inventory (sadly, none in our region).

Is  this in current stock or catalog?

Thx,

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Re: [RCSE] Antenna Wire

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Swingle
>>Been told that wire guage has no impact on reception,
>>curious to know if that's true or not.


Yes, it is true. But for mechanical reasons multistrand is preferred.
Insulated is also not required but is preferred for both mechanical and
electrical reasons.

Generally speaking you can use most any conductor. I've used music wire too,
when the installation lended itself to do so. I know one guy who used the
burglar alarm window foil. But mechanical durability is often overlooked and
just taken for granted. An installation can be thought acceptable when it's
really doomed to eventually fail.

Bill Swingle

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Re: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ...

2004-11-23 Thread Mrmaseratiman


"Molex" is molded on my new Hoopes harness wing to fuse connector, black in color, that was supplied with my new Graphite 2. Both Barry and Tom must have worked together on this harness cause it was done well and fitted the G 2 near perfect.
 
My first Hoopes system but not my last.
 
Also the G 2 flies quite well and I would reccomend this bird to any one without reservation.
 
Regards, Dave Corven.


Re: [RCSE] "I pity the boy who ain't got a Radio Shack...."

2004-11-23 Thread Ray Hayes
Gordy,

I hope your review includes a ballast chart for all the popular sailplanes
IE:

  Windspeed/ballast Windspeed/ballast   you get
the idea ??

Compulsion10 Mph / 12 oz 14 Mph / 18 oz  etc..


Happy Thanksgiving Turkey, see you on the OVSS circuit next year.


Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
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Subject: [RCSE] "I pity the boy who ain't got a Radio Shack"


> Wind Meter!
>
> Get this part $9.99!
>
> It even has a LED flashlight in the bottom. Smart device and made so  that
it
> can bang around in your flight bag with nothing to get damaged.
>
> Yup, an upcoming RC Soaring Digest Review ;-)
>
> Gordy
>


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[RCSE] JR 368's

2004-11-23 Thread Allan/Tara
Try  www.rcsuperstore.com ,
Although they're selection is small they have 368's for $59.95 and standard 
shipping is free.They also have a price guarantee on everything they 
carry,as best as I can remember they were pretty fast about getting the 
servos to me
Allan Parsons
Orlando Buzzards


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Re: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ...

2004-11-23 Thread Dr. Danny C Williams
Well I have to chime in here...

First you can get the Hoopes connectors with the  DB-15 or the other
black connector.
Dammit Jim I am a Doctor not an electrician, and can not think of the
names of the black plugs Tom uses right now..lol

As to the "New" Wiring harness I will NEVER order another Icon again with
that POS harness in it I will only get it with the Hoopes or an
equivalent.
Here's is my reason.

I have a Few Icons all with the Hoopes connectors ( and a few other
birds...lol) and never had a failure due to the connectors in over 1000
hours of flying my Icons, now brain fade that is a another thread unto
it's self.

But when I got my newest Icon (pre NATS) with that P.O.S. new harness
read that as a Non-Hoopes. 
I had two failures in the first two day's of flying.  Compared to the
Hoopes the quality of this new harness is terrible  Don what in the
He.. were you thinking.  I ended up tearing out that "new" harness with
the third failure.  I have heard of two others with Icons doing the same,
but I do not remember who they were.
I guess I got use to Millspeck quality.  So if you order a Icon make sure
you get the Hoopes with the DB-15 not the "new" wire set.


Dr. Danny Williams
Soon to be the X,President of Rocky Mountain Soaring Association
Denver, CO
http://www.rmsadenver.com

~

Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:58:04 -0600
From: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
Uh, the new ones with the DB-15 computer monitor connectors are not
Hoopes 
connectors. 
I have ICON's with both styles, I have not flown the new one yet.  The 
apparent difference here is the center panel now plugs into the fuse and 
makes connection, the old style you connected the connectors, stuffed
them 
and the wires in the fuse, and bolted the center panel on.  I don't like
to 
change things that work well, but this is the way the ICON is delivered
now 
days.  Bad thing here is I can't field swap ICON parts in the field with 
this new connector, so that wing is now for that fuse only.
 And with my last ICON I also took delivery of a new molded Image (ya,
not 
an ICON 2m but it is painted to look like my ICON's),  believe it or not,

it came with a Hoopes connector.
 At 06:28 PM 11/22/2004, Barry Andersen wrote:
>I have one of the first new connector fitted Icon's.  Mine has worked 
>flawlessly and I enjoy the "plug and play".
 
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV
ICQ: 6997780   AIM: InventorJim   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
 -
 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:06:19 -0500
From: Barry Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
Yep, I know that, I wasn't clear in my post.
 
The new Van Leeuwen connector has served me well; flown at this year's  
NATS and many times since.  I was trying to point out, that I agree 
that Tom makes fine connectors; also the new Van Leeuwen connector has 
worked fine for me.  It is possible that both these connectors are fine 
products.
 
Barry
 
 
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[RCSE] Assembly instructions for Compulsion

2004-11-23 Thread John Measamer








I have started construction on my Compulsion and realized I
only have half the assembly instructions. 
I tried Fred Sage, but all of his material is in permanent storage. If
anyone on the exchange has a copy of the assembly instructions they could scan
and e-male to me it would be greatly appreciated.  My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED].  If a scan is not possible they could be
faxed to 513 337 4464.  

 

Thanks in advance

John Measamer

Cincinnati Soaring
Society








[RCSE] "I pity the boy who ain't got a Radio Shack...."

2004-11-23 Thread GordySoar



Wind Meter!
 
Get this part $9.99!
It even has a LED flashlight in the bottom. Smart device and made so 
that it can bang around in your flight bag with nothing to get damaged.
 
Yup, an upcoming RC Soaring Digest Review ;-)
 
Gordy


Re: [RCSE] Torque of Mulitplex servos..

2004-11-23 Thread Chris Veitch
Kevin
from http://www.modelspot.com/mpx/stdservo.htm UK multiplex  Cockpit BB 
20Ncm at 4.8v, Speed 60 dec 4.8v 0.21

Micro 3BB 16Ncm at 4.8v, Speed 60 dec 4.8v 0.17 from an old print I kept.
Regards
Chris
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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Torque of Mulitplex servos..


Does anyone know the approxmiate torque of
Multiplex cockpit BB micro servos??
Multiplex  3BB micro servos..??
any info appreciated, no info in or on the box
KEVIN KAVANEY
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[RCSE] air travel, transporting RC a/c

2004-11-23 Thread byen00

What have people come up as far as novel methods for transporting a/c
for jet-travel?

I went to Illinois, where I had a GP Slinger ("flying wing") mailed to
my address.  Darn thing was so well thought out, I had the thing
assembled quickly (some people claim 30 minutes)..2 wing sections
connected with slip-fit Al tubes & wings taped together.  Almost like
these fancy glider ships (wings slip-fit with reinforcement rods,
followed by some "tape").

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2922634

"I had the kit shipped to me in Illinois, built it, & flew for my
friends. Then, I disassembled it, & took the Slinger box as a carry-on
back home to California. The modular system made the Slinger a portable
e-flier for jet-travel. No hassle in packing a 48" wing (say, as a
check-in)."

So, I guess I found a plane which could be assembled/disassembled
quickly..& be taken as a *carry-on*.  Not a check-in.  I remember
seeing the European fliers at the HLG World Meet (Poway, CA): lots of
fancy cases shipped as check-in? (or was it pre-shipped freight).  I
used the original box, which came out 48" (l+w+h), which is technically
3" over the 45" limit for AA (American Airlines) carry-on.  I could
stash it in the front of the plane, in the closet where business-types
put their suit-hangars.

I'd like to hear some "examples" where people have used innovative
transportable a/c and/or creative packing techniques to transport on an
airline.  Some of these smaller e-planes could be squeezed into a
carryon.  I was in Illinois (breezy & windy), so the 48" wing was
pretty much the smallest plane I could use.  I had a devil of a time
flying the wing in those swirly midwestern winds, it was a completely
different feel from where I usually fly (Rose Bowl in Pasadena).

That's a question I have.  At those big glider meets, how do people
transport these big gliders?  Do they pay extra for a check-in box
which can accomadate those planes?


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Re: [RCSE] Antenna Wire

2004-11-23 Thread Richard

I use magnet wire from radio shack, very light and cheap.  Scrape the
insulation off with a knife.  Been told that wire guage has no impact
on reception, curious to know if that's true or not.

Richard

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wrote:
> Does anybody have a good source for receiver antenna wire? I have 3
> receivers that I would like to replace the wire on. One was in my
Graphite
> and I extended it to 1/4 wave length outside of the fuselage using one
> conductor I stripped from some Hitec servo wire. I would prefer to
obtain a
> reasonable quantity of single conductor wire.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> 
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[RCSE] GORDY

2004-11-23 Thread Falarski, Martin
Title: GORDY






Maybe the mother ship returned and beamed him up for a new CPU and some software upgrades.

Mart





Re: [RCSE] Hoopes and Maple Leaf's website

2004-11-23 Thread DAN KITCHING

Just as a side note, the Icon page at www.mapleleafdesign.com still describes the airframe as including a "Hoopes" wing harness.
 
"Also included are a unique 44 ounce ballast system, a complete wiring harness by Hoopes Designs, flush-mounted wing servo covers "
 
It's pretty clear now that for whatever reasons this is not the case, and hasn't been for a while. 
 
 
Dan
(Icon coveter, and quality wing harness appreciator)
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What more can be said, Hoopes connectors are made of metal and plastic and are soldered to wire with insulation on it.  The harnesses come in plastic bags that are real clear.  Included are some very detailed instructions, Tom is a neat packer of stuff.
 
I was going to order an Icon till I heard the rumor that Hoopes connectors didn't seem to work very well in them, and no way would I fly a sailplane without Hoopes connectors!
 
I use Hoopes connectors in all my Pikes, and well every other ship I have, short of foamies.
They don't seem to work very well for me, cuz I keep on losing contests and it couldn't be my flying skills.
 
I love you Tom Hoopes, now can I have your beer?
 
Gordy
Flew today in cloudy but warm Louisville...with Hoopes connectors.

RE: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ...

2004-11-23 Thread John Derstine
Off topic slightly, but for what it is worth: the molded 6 meter scale
ships by LET all come standard with mini sub-D 15 pin wing to fuse
connectors pre wired and installed in the plane, with JR plugs on the
servo end and optionally on the RX end. These ships are roughly twice
the cost of a simple molded TD airframe.

The point being, this is not rocket science, none have ever failed to my
knowledge. Sometimes simple is OK.

It's all good...

JD

Endless Mountain Models
http://www.scalesoaring.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: James V Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:58 PM
> To: RCSE
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ...
> 
> Uh, the new ones with the DB-15 computer monitor connectors are not
Hoopes
> connectors.
> 
> I have ICON's with both styles, I have not flown the new one yet.  The
> apparent difference here is the center panel now plugs into the fuse
and
> makes connection, the old style you connected the connectors, stuffed
them
> and the wires in the fuse, and bolted the center panel on.  I don't
like
> to
> change things that work well, but this is the way the ICON is
delivered
> now
> days.  Bad thing here is I can't field swap ICON parts in the field
with
> this new connector, so that wing is now for that fuse only.
> 
> And with my last ICON I also took delivery of a new molded Image (ya,
not
> an ICON 2m but it is painted to look like my ICON's),  believe it or
not,
> it came with a Hoopes connector.
> 
> 
> At 06:28 PM 11/22/2004, Barry Andersen wrote:
> >I have one of the first new connector fitted Icon's.  Mine has worked
> >flawlessly and I enjoy the "plug and play".
> 
> Jim
> Downers Grove, IL
> Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV
> ICQ: 6997780   AIM: InventorJim   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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