[RCSE] Jay Decker and the Genie pages
Friend Jay generously provides the space and takes the time to update the Genie pages and this is much appreciated by me. I write the material in MS Word, but he converts the files to PDF and did the nice job of organizing the headings and categories. Thank you Jay, for all your help. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Anyone have an F3B model for sale? Need practice ship...
Hi folks, Thanks for all the responses. Just sorting through them now, and I'll get back to everyone ASAP. Cheers, Adam Adam Till (Cal) wrote: Before I get lured away by a friend wanting to split shipping on some scale models, does anyone have any F3B models for sale that would make good practice ships? There's a group of us who have decided to learn to fly the tasks properly this season, and from what I've been learning my Erasers might not cut it. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Electric Tug Drive for Sale
Hi folks, If anyone is looking for a quiet alternative for towing moderate-sized scale sailplanes, I have just the ticket. I'm selling an Aveox 1817/4Y, Hacker Master 48 Opto, and a Tom Hunt belt drive. Same drive that was featured in the following article: http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4641 Works okay in a slow model like a Telemaster, but works really well in an UltraStick 120 Lite or similar. All bugs have been cleared up, and we've had a lots of great tows on it. Could include a 20x13E prop, but that might increase shipping Selling because we've got big sailplanes in the club now, and so have gone gas. This setup happily towed a Roedel 4m ASK21. Would also be a good match for a larger motorglider, especially since it's so quiet. Will sell all the drive components for $500 cdn + shipping ($400US), or $600 cdn with a 30 cell kapton nicad pack (about 30 cycles, carefully maintained) or 30 new, loose GP3300 cells. Cheers, Adam Adam Till Mechanical Engineer 403-270-9200 (ext 154) 403-270-0399 (Fax) UMA Engineering Ltd. 2540 Kensington Road NW Calgary AB, Canada T2N 3S3 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Kevlar fuse finishing paints
Anyone have any paint recommendations for finishing Kevlar fuses? I've read Phil Barnes' Mantis finishing thread here (which is excellent): http://forums.flyesl.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44 But the paint he uses (Krylon epoxy enamel) has a limited color range... So, I'm looking for something that has a decent color range *and* is durable. I was looking at the Krylon Fusion line which is specifically made for plastics, but bonds with other things as well, and has a wide range of colors. http://www.krylon.com/main/product_template.cfm?levelid=5sub_levelid=10productid=1751content=product_details Anyone have a brand they would care to mention? -- ben wilson AMA 717400 / LSF 7806 http://www.louisvillesoaring.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Electric Tug Drive for Sale
-- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:18:50 -0700 From: Adam Till \(Cal\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Electric Tug Drive for Sale Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, link should be: http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4641 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 9303 camber program question
My soaring buddy and I have had difficulty in setting up camber using the left side lever. In order to get the ailerons and flaps to move in unison we find that 150% of down aileron is required. We then use flap rate and flaperon mix. Are we missing a key step here that would simplify without having to establish this large aileron down travel? Tom Gressman/RMSA/Denver RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question/General Camber Question
I see and read of a number of people who ask about camber control on a slider. I used to use sliders for camber also but I've changed to the 3-position switch on the upper left of my TX. My question is: Why use a slider when the plane responds best at 2 specific locations for camber/reflex? I used to fly a Lovesong in competition. It responded to 3-degrees of reflex (approx. 1/8) and about the same amount for camber control. I tried a number of different positions and like Michael Selig discovered, the 3-degrees was about right. I fly an Icon now and it too responds to a small amount of reflex and camber. Why not put the camber on a switch instead of a slider? If we only use a small amount, say less than 1/8, there is little difference in the way the plane handles yet we have to spend energy/attention making sure the slider would be in the correct position. It seems easier to me to use the switch. What are others thoughts, Daryl P.? Joe W.? gv RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: [balsasailplanes] BASS Woody open attached
We haven't set a date yet, but the DARTS group would still like to run a Woody event this year (EG, the zip start HLG event). Hope it brings out some of the retired HLG guys. We always run a one day Nostalgia contest prior to our annual RES event, lots of old wood there - biting my tongue. Brent www.daytonsoaring.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 9303 camber program/General Camber Question
Hi Tom I haven't used a slider for camber control in over 10 years (since the Airtronics Vision). For a given angle of attack there is only one flap setting that will result in minimum drag, be it positive camber for high AOA or negative camber (reflex) for lower AOA's. Airfoils obviously are designed to need no camber changing devices when near their "normal" AOA (for soaring, this would be nearBest or MaxL/D AOA). Deviations from Max L/D AOA may benefit from small changes in camber to reduce drag. Some airfoils respond well to camber changing. Somethin, low cambered airfoils, don't like high AOA's and respond well to a little camber at high AOA (the Nyx comes to mind here). Higher cambered airfoils like the 7037 do fine without camber. Although they may benefit with a little camber near the stalling AOA, the benefit won't be as noticeable as with the low cambered airfoil. You really need to deviate quite a bit from Max L/D AOA to need positive or negative camber, i.e. flying very slow in a thermal or pushing hard and fast. If you're using more than a few degrees either way, you're probably using too much. Play with 1/16 to 3/16 inch of positive and negative camber on a toggle switch and save yourself the hassle of messing with the slider. I'll agree with George Voss--The odds of you selecting the correct camber setting with the slider while thermalling is slim to none. Try putting Launch/Cruise on a 2 position switch and Thermal/ Speed on a 3 position switch (all as presets) and do away with the slider. Sorry, I know I haven't answered your original question (my 9303 is too new for me to have figured out the answer to that. If you figure it out, let me know just for my general knowledge). Try Tom Copp at www.F3X.com. He might be able to give you an answer since he's proficient with the radio. He also has a couple JR manuals on his website that have instructions for setting up a sailplane. Ben Clerx
[RCSE] Electric Tug Drive for Sale
Sorry, link should be: http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=3D4641 Sorry, it did not work for me. Dennis RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question
The travel amounts vary with the linkage setups. If you find that the ailerons don't move enough for equal travel across the flaps and ailerons, you should increase the aileron travel (both up and down) and then use the dual rate settings to reduce the total aileron travel off the stick so it's not too sensitive. Usually this happens when the aileron horns are long. This applies also applies to the 8103, 388, 783, etc. With the 9303, the presets in the flight modes are the best solution for camber, reflex settings. But you still need to even out the travel if you use elevator to camber mixing on the wing. The combination of fixed presets and elevator to camber mixing is about the best you can do. Most airfoils have some pretty definite presets. The elevator to camber mixes help out especially if you input a lot of elevator Most of the airfoils get real draggy as you transition through very low Cl's into negative Cl's and only a lot of reflex helps. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My soaring buddy and I have had difficulty in setting up camber using the left side lever. In order to get the ailerons and flaps to move in unison we find that 150% of down aileron is required. We then use flap rate and flaperon mix. Are we missing a key step here that would simplify without having to establish this large aileron down travel? Tom Gressman/RMSA/Denver RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question
At 12:49 PM 2/23/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My soaring buddy and I have had difficulty in setting up camber using the left side lever. In order to get the ailerons and flaps to move in unison we find that 150% of down aileron is required. Where are you entering in 150% of down aileron, the sub trim? Are we missing a key step here that would simplify without having to establish this large aileron down travel? This is quite possible, I didn't have to do this to get camber to work on the left side lever on my 9303 setup. I like to use the side lever for camber adjustment, but much of the time it goes to the same point so on my 9303 I will try to use the triple switch reflex / cruise / thermal with some presets this season. I will still keep the slide bar functionality, because there are times when I need more or less travel there, like I might pull the entire trailing edge down to half of what I might use as a launch setup for the bungee or windy days. I use it to attenuate my flight speed at times as well. On my 10x the reflex goes to a preset with the snap roll button, and the left lever does camber. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program/General Camber Question
On the 10X, I like camber on the right slider (full slider travel sets appropriate camber - no guessing at midpoints) because I can instantly tell by feel whether camber is set. Don't have to move my thumbs off the sticks, or worry about bumping the wrong switch. Reflex is on the left slider (normally left engaged at full travel) and actuated by the snap roll button...reflex thus can't be left on by mistake. I pirated this idea from Jim Bacus. Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't used a slider for camber control in over 10 years (since the Airtronics Vision). For a given angle of attack there is only one flap setting that will result in minimum drag, be it positive camber for high AOA or negative camber (reflex) for lower AOA's. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question
The 150% down required is in travel adjust. The proper amount of up and down is then done with differential. I keep thinking there is an easier way on the 9303, therefore the question posted on the exchange. Tom
Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question
Thanks Mike for the response. We get the travel by going to 150% down on the travel adjust with the ailerons and then using differential to get the proper up and down. We just thought that theremay bean easier way with the 9303. Are you using the left slider to get camber? If so exactly what is your program? We use the above and then go to flap rate followed by flaperon mix. Tom
Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program/General Camber Question
Last season alone I can think of 4 times where I overheard pilots in my flight group saying after landing, Oh DUDE, I flew that flight with my reflex on Even better, last season I timed for a guy who maxxed a 10 with launch mode left on... 8-) At 09:55 PM 2/23/2005, Tom Watson wrote: Reflex is on the left slider (normally left engaged at full travel) and actuated by the snap roll button...reflex thus can't be left on by mistake. I pirated this idea from Jim Bacus. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 9303 camber program question
I agree, there must be an easier way because I did not have to do this to get mine to work properly. Are you following the setup guide by John Adams on page S40 in the manual? At 10:01 PM 2/23/2005, you wrote: The 150% down required is in travel adjust. The proper amount of up and down is then done with differential. I keep thinking there is an easier way on the 9303, therefore the question posted on the exchange.Tom Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SUPER SALE! - DVDs Calendars
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[RCSE] Oops!
I think Kukral sent this to TK who sent this to me, who I now send to you all... this link. The Oops List http://www.micom.net/oops/ I have seen some of these pictures, but not all of them. Some of them are quite spectacular! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
