RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked..
Thanks for the update. We had a feeling you were unreliable and full of BS. You have removed all doubt. Using such feeble excuses such as a flat tire shows absolutely no creativity on your part. Surely someone like you can come up with some new and more original material Gordy. Best wishes Cliff Lindgren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:35 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked.. a bunch of soaring fun right out of me! I answered my wake up call this morning at 8a.m. in Knoxville Tn and proceeded to go back to sleep. Woke up at 9:30 and had to use the old 'got a flat tire' excuse to my customer ...they are used to it and knew it was a euphanism of mine for too tired from soaring :-) Got my Saturday and Sunday trophies up on the wall and now all packed to head to Baltimore to meet my buddy Michael Volz for a couple of days of fun in the sun. Gordy
[RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Just went to Sal's website and didn't see it. Even a search of his page gave no result. Whazzup? Jack Womack --- Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
I saw that plane fly last weekend and at Visalia. Its a really good flying plane. Seemed to me it really pulled hard on launch. Didnt see it land at SVSS but did at Visalia and it really does come in slow. Liked it so much I called NSP about a kit. To my surprise was told they dont make kits. Only RTF planes complete w/all JR electronics. I was quoted 1700.00. Not sure why its only offered RTF/all electronics??? I guess subtracting say 650.00 for gear/install that would put the plane around 1050.00. Will probably still buy one someday but really would rather build out my own plane with my own gear. None the less the plane flies very, very good. A two meter its certainly NOT, its big. Walter -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Just went to Sal's website and didn't see it. Even a search of his page gave no result. Whazzup? I think you guys are gonna have to call and bug him about it D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
I believe these are different models... here are some pictures from last years Nats of Daryl's Insanity 3.7 http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02235.htm http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02236.htm At 02:40 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] For Sale - Icon, RTF, New and Perfect... SOLD
The Icon has been sold. Thanks for the BW. Walt - Original Message - From: Walter Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: For Sale - Icon, RTF, New and Perfect Posting this for my Son: I am selling my Icon. It is loaded with the best in non-didgital Airtronics servos and rec. The plane is white on top with white fuse, red on bottom. The tips fade from white to yellow, orange, then red. I took delivery, from Mapleleaf, in Febuary and it has about 20 flights. The plane is perfect, no hanger rash scrathes or dings. Comes with factory ballast and 5 cell pack, only 4 of the cells are wired. Also comes with tape on skeg and tooth. Rec. is the slim blue 92777/721. Flap and rudder servos are 141s. Elevator is S4738, ailerons have 94557s. All Airtronics. If you fly with a Stylus, you may send me your memory card and I will upload the program. Email questions to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Pictures available on request. You may check my buyer feedback through Ebay under seller, 3dproductions. $2400 includes shipping. Request payment by PayPal. Dwain Carter (214) 616-4559. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I believe these are different models... here are some pictures from last years Nats of Daryl's Insanity 3.7 http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02235.htm http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02236.htm At 02:40 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Maybe the same then... really big, right? (hard to tell from the photo) 8-) BTW, if you guys want a model built for you Dave does an EXCELLENT job! At 03:12 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I believe these are different models... here are some pictures from last years Nats of Daryl's Insanity 3.7 http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02235.htm http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/nats2004unl1/pages/DSC02236.htm At 02:40 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Gordy bashing is probably more fun... I'll second that!!! Jack Womack --- Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] zebra paint (was insanity 3.7)
Dave, That paint scheme is wild. Really cool. Nice job. http://www.git-r-built.com/photos.htm However, I would not want to try to see that plane at distance. I've done intricate paint schemes before, on par with the lines contrast you did. At distance, all the lines blur and make the outline of the plane hard to discern. Jon - Original Message - From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
DP is the connoisseur of paint schemes for sailplanes. I could see him flying that Zebra stripe paint scheme... that really looks good on his model. 8-)) At 03:12 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] zebra paint (was insanity 3.7)
Best stealth paint scheme I have seen in a long time. Oops. Should have said haven't seen. Bet it goes out of sight at an incredibly short distance. Chuck Anderson. At 12:28 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: Dave, That paint scheme is wild. Really cool. Nice job. http://www.git-r-built.com/photos.htm However, I would not want to try to see that plane at distance. I've done intricate paint schemes before, on par with the lines contrast you did. At distance, all the lines blur and make the outline of the plane hard to discern. Jon - Original Message - From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
(Of course this comment is made by a guy who flies the infamous Barney paint scheme!) heh heh heh heh heh 8-) Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] zebra paint (was insanity 3.7)
Bet it goes out of sight at an incredibly short distance. Chuck Anderson. Thats what there designed to do, the faster the better ! :-) dh At 12:28 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: Dave, That paint scheme is wild. Really cool. Nice job. http://www.git-r-built.com/photos.htm However, I would not want to try to see that plane at distance. I've done intricate paint schemes before, on par with the lines contrast you did. At distance, all the lines blur and make the outline of the plane hard to discern. Jon - Original Message - From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] zebra paint (was insanity 3.7)
But it's not how quick it goes out of sight, it's how far away it can go before it vanishes. :-) Chuck Anderson At 03:47 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: Bet it goes out of sight at an incredibly short distance. Chuck Anderson. Thats what there designed to do, the faster the better ! :-) dh At 12:28 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: Dave, That paint scheme is wild. Really cool. Nice job. http://www.git-r-built.com/photos.htm However, I would not want to try to see that plane at distance. I've done intricate paint schemes before, on par with the lines contrast you did. At distance, all the lines blur and make the outline of the plane hard to discern. Jon - Original Message - From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Looks like the only difference is he has a built up fin, which mine wasn't, but mine had a built up rudder, also my stabs where a tad bigger. Mine was 83oz. AUW. Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
BTW, guys, just to set the record straight, I like wild paint schemes if you haven't figured that out yet. And DP discusses this with me quite a bit... 8-) especially on the flight line just before I am going to fly. He gets me and my timer laughing so hard, we can barely fly. That's where my comments are coming from, it's all in good spirit and fun! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple! As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea. http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpg Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal/building?
Hey guys, took a PTO ( personal time off ) day from work today to make a four day weekend and do some flying with our elder club members. The air was turbulent and some welcomed thunderstorms, with free water from the sky, cut our session short, bummer!? Had a 20+ minute flight with an altitude of 1400' AGL and decided to abort due to lightning in the area. This was documented on my RAM. Anyhow, we here in Texas are coming into our second building season. With temps in the 100's and humidity over 50% one has to be crazy to be outside after noon. I want to build an new technology back up for my Eraser, don't want a RTF. The old Sapphire with the Sage wings is good, but she is long in the tooth. What would you recommend for TD? Keep in mind we have conditions where we regularly fly in winds above 10 MPH and it needs to be a sturdy contest hog. BTW, Daryl we would like to see you back at the TNT again sometime, enjoyed having you here a few years back. We now fly it a South Fork Ranch, no JR doesn't try to steal our ladies, but it is a challenging site to fly. Some of us think it mirrors UT Dallas where we were flying when you were here. Mark W. - Original Message - From: Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I saw that plane fly last weekend and at Visalia. Its a really good flying plane. Seemed to me it really pulled hard on launch. Didnt see it land at SVSS but did at Visalia and it really does come in slow. Liked it so much I called NSP about a kit. To my surprise was told they dont make kits. Only RTF planes complete w/all JR electronics. I was quoted 1700.00. Not sure why its only offered RTF/all electronics??? I guess subtracting say 650.00 for gear/install that would put the plane around 1050.00. Will probably still buy one someday but really would rather build out my own plane with my own gear. None the less the plane flies very, very good. A two meter its certainly NOT, its big. Walter -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Barney Zebra!8-) At 01:14 PM 7/1/2005, Jon Stone wrote: Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple! As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea. http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpg Jon Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/797sup/jo_sup_el.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/826sup/launch_landing_sup.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/786supelectro/throw_sup_electro.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/789impx/jojo_throw_27458F3J_2004_Canada_14.jpgBut I do agree that to have a good and simple paint scheme is important.Actually you will see most Czech pilots fly two very different colorstips/midsection http://www.f3j.com/images/czech_ch_02.jpgAnd the Sharon and Space Pro is very often delivered with one stripe underonly one tip (8-10inches wide)Hilsen (Regards) Jojowww.grini.no- Original Message -From: Jon Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri Jul 1, 2005 8:14 pmSubject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Email Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple!As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea.http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpgJon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Yep... kind of remember an ugly cobra green with I think it was yellow spots. Now as ugly as it was... it was a cool looking as it gets... it was different... until DP decided he didn't like the spots... then he confettied it... BOOOM Then it really got UGLY. James V. Bacus wrote: DP is the connoisseur of paint schemes for sailplanes. I could see him flying that Zebra stripe paint scheme... that really looks good on his model. 8-)) At 03:12 PM 7/1/2005, D Hauch wrote: Customer wanted me to painted it before i shipped. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
JoJo already uses the Barney Zebra scheme... 8-) At 01:57 PM 7/1/2005, Jo Grini wrote: Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Don't fly it into a heard of Zebra~ ;-) Looks good! Anybody got a firm price on it? That looks like my next year model... Don -Original Message- From: D Hauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 2:40 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Jo and others... I don't fly my plane upside down...why should it really matter what the top looks like? I think the bottom is most important. I've seen neon green/orange looking quite black from a 1/4 mile away trying to get back to make the landing. There just isn't enough surface area for my tired eyes to make out colors...especially profile views. What color Jo are those Czech pilots using on the bottom of their wings? Don -Original Message- From: Jo Grini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:57 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/797sup/jo_sup_el.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/826sup/launch_landing_sup.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/786supelectro/throw_sup_electro.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/789impx/jojo_throw_27458F3J_2004_Canad a_14.jpgBut I do agree that to have a good and simple paint scheme is important.Actually you will see most Czech pilots fly two very different colorstips/midsection http://www.f3j.com/images/czech_ch_02.jpgAnd the Sharon and Space Pro is very often delivered with one stripe underonly one tip (8-10inches wide)Hilsen (Regards) Jojowww.grini.no- Original Message -From: Jon Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri Jul 1, 2005 8:14 pmSubject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Email Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple!As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea.http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpgJon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Something opposite. Preferably dark colors and yes differrent tips/midsection there too. My comment on the Sharon was only about bottoms. A green plane against a forrest will in some conditions almost dissapear. This might be important in some fields coming in for landing low... Flying F3B in 150km/h turning fast on A-base just 20m in front of you with a treeline in the back might be easier if you have a scheme you know well. Especially if you do something wrong and have to do a correction. But true. On far distance most colors look black. Thats why I dont have any problem with zebra. But I will not choose green/red zebra next time. Rather white/red as the blur coming past me or the treeline formes a better color for my eyes.. Hilsen (Regards) Jojo www.grini.no - Original Message - From: Don Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:51 PM Subject: RE: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Jo and others... I don't fly my plane upside down...why should it really matter what the top looks like? I think the bottom is most important. I've seen neon green/orange looking quite black from a 1/4 mile away trying to get back to make the landing. There just isn't enough surface area for my tired eyes to make out colors...especially profile views. What color Jo are those Czech pilots using on the bottom of their wings? Don -Original Message- From: Jo Grini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:57 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Order an Pike Zebra or Lightning scheme and you will get that eye-problem ;-) Well I have no problem with it... http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/797sup/jo_sup_el.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/826sup/launch_landing_sup.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/786supelectro/throw_sup_electro.jpg http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/789impx/jojo_throw_27458F3J_2004_Canad a_14.jpgBut I do agree that to have a good and simple paint scheme is important.Actually you will see most Czech pilots fly two very different colorstips/midsection http://www.f3j.com/images/czech_ch_02.jpgAnd the Sharon and Space Pro is very often delivered with one stripe underonly one tip (8-10inches wide)Hilsen (Regards) Jojowww.grini.no- Original Message -From: Jon Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri Jul 1, 2005 8:14 pmSubject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Email Could you imagine that big boy lime green over purple!As you ordered. :) Pretty crude on my part, but you get the idea.http://www.knology.net/~jstone/barney-zebra.jpgJon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Paging Ed Jett
Ed, Save the minutes/long distance and drop me a note. Besides I missed placed your email address. ;-) Don RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Daryl Perkins wrote: Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format DP let me fly it at Visalia last year. Incredibly low approach speeds with outstanding tracking and rudder response on final. I meant to ask you Daryl how it fared with the HIGH winds last weekend? Obviously quite well. Ballasted? Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
1700.00 w/all gear installed. That is what NSP quoted me. Said no kits were offered, only complete RTF planes. -Original Message- From: Don Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, July 01, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Don't fly it into a heard of Zebra~ ;-) Looks good! Anybody got a firm price on it? That looks like my next year model... Don -Original Message- From: D Hauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 2:40 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal I flew one of these for a bit untill someone bought it off me. Great flying plane. Couldn't beleive how agile it was, talk about hang. Even got the winch to moan on a down wind launch. There's a pic of it in my photo's, first one. Sent it to Africa. (you'll see) :-) Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal Does Sal make sailplanes? What size Lipo's does it take and how is it at 3D maneuvers ;-) I guess someone can start some Sal bashing. We've been through a whole bunch of other recurring topics recently, but haven't done any Sal bashing. Gordy bashing is probably more fun... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again
Seeing the posts about the Insanity we gotta get back to whos flying the plane. As good as the Insanity seems to be, its still the pilot. Case in point, last weeks SVSS Sprig Fling. The overall winner was?? Bobby McGowan. Was he flying a ultra high performance, high A/R, super foiled bird? Nope, a 2M Image. Doesnt that plane have your basic 7035? He smoked some pretty good pilots with that little 2M thing! Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] It's official now
After careful scrutiny of his voucher, it gives me great pleasure to announce that Jon Stone, LSF# 7245, of Madison, AL is the League of Silent Flight's 120th Level V. Please join the officers of the LSF in congratulating Jon upon his achievement. Respectfully submitted, Jim Deck LSF Secretary -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] It's official now
Congrats Jon! At 06:33 PM 7/1/2005, Jim Deck wrote: After careful scrutiny of his voucher, it gives me great pleasure to announce that Jon Stone, LSF# 7245, of Madison, AL is the League of Silent Flight's 120th Level V. Please join the officers of the LSF in congratulating Jon upon his achievement. Respectfully submitted, Jim Deck LSF Secretary Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Sorry everyone. I didn't expect this to happen. Thanks for your patience. Dave asked I meant to ask you Daryl how it fared with the HIGH winds last weekend? Obviously quite well. Ballasted? I didn't weigh the ballast I put in it, but I suspect it was between 12 ounces and a pound. I didn't expect it would be nearly enough. I didn't think I'd be able to get around, because even with 16 extra ounces in it, it only raises the loading maybe 1 to 1 1/2 ounces/ft. (Sorry, don't feel like doing the math). I don't think there was enough ballast on the field for that day but it did pretty well. A little weight almost transforms the model. I don't like flying light models, but I do like landing light modelsa... the compromise. On this day, landing light models was a handful too. I could have used another pound or two. I'm going to have to make a way to get some more weight in that thing before Muncie. If I do that... there won't be any wind at all... D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked..
Hi Cliff. Have you ever met with Gordy? As soon as he posts, you are ready with a vitriolic reply. Tall poppy syndrome??? regards Klaus Weiss Sydney Australia http://www.hsl.org.au From: Cliff E-Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 July 2005 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked.. Thanks for the update. We had a feeling you were unreliable and full of BS. You have removed all doubt. Using such feeble excuses such as a flat tire shows absolutely no creativity on your part. Surely someone like you can come up with some new and more original material Gordy. Best wishes Cliff Lindgren
[RCSE] Jon V Stone
Clap-Clap- Clap...Couldn't happen to a nice guy..Great job Jon..Brian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again
Makes a 2 meter lover's heart go all pitter-patter!! ;-) Congratulations to Bobby McGowan! Rick At 07:15 PM 7/1/2005, Marta Zavala wrote: Seeing the posts about the Insanity we gotta get back to whos flying the plane. As good as the Insanity seems to be, its still the pilot. Case in point, last weeks SVSS Sprig Fling. The overall winner was?? Bobby McGowan. Was he flying a ultra high performance, high A/R, super foiled bird? Nope, a 2M Image. Doesnt that plane have your basic 7035? He smoked some pretty good pilots with that little 2M thing! Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] It's official now
Congratulations to Jon as well. I had the pleasure of timing his first flight at the Mid South, at 10 minutes exactly and with a 100 landing (perfect)!!
Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again
I got to see some of his flights first hand (Timed for him on some). He was on fire. It / he inspired me so much I'm now on the waiting list for an 2m Image. only 362 days to go give or take a few :) Way to go Bobby! John Fruge - Original Message - From: Rick Eckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again Makes a 2 meter lover's heart go all pitter-patter!! ;-) Congratulations to Bobby McGowan! Rick At 07:15 PM 7/1/2005, Marta Zavala wrote: Seeing the posts about the Insanity we gotta get back to whos flying the plane. As good as the Insanity seems to be, its still the pilot. Case in point, last weeks SVSS Sprig Fling. The overall winner was?? Bobby McGowan. Was he flying a ultra high performance, high A/R, super foiled bird? Nope, a 2M Image. Doesnt that plane have your basic 7035? He smoked some pretty good pilots with that little 2M thing! Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again
My ICON and Image have a matching paint scheme. 8-) http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/2004/images/miniicon.jpg At 08:25 PM 7/1/2005, John D Frugé wrote: It / he inspired me so much I'm now on the waiting list for an 2m Image. only 362 days to go give or take a few :) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again
But you don't Love your Image the way you do your Icon. Makes all the difference. ;-) Rick At 09:27 PM 7/1/2005, James V. Bacus wrote: My ICON and Image have a matching paint scheme. 8-) http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/2004/images/miniicon.jpg At 08:25 PM 7/1/2005, John D Frugé wrote: It / he inspired me so much I'm now on the waiting list for an 2m Image. only 362 days to go give or take a few :) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again
Look, It's a Mini-Mi No it's an ICON. BSG At 08:27 PM 7/1/2005, James V. Bacus wrote: My ICON and Image have a matching paint scheme. 8-) http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/2004/images/miniicon.jpg At 08:25 PM 7/1/2005, John D Frugé wrote: It / he inspired me so much I'm now on the waiting list for an 2m Image. only 362 days to go give or take a few :) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked..
Klaus, yes Ive met with Gordy flown with him at Los Banos a few years back consider him a friend. He knows my sense of humor and realizes that the the things I have to say are mostly Tongue in cheek. Unfortunately for all of us, emails dont reliably convey tone. For the most part, I dont even reply to Gordys posts but then theres always that time he leaves himself way out on a limb I just cant seem to help myself and feel the urge to take a pot shot at him. At any rate, Gordy is a big boy, and a great guy who can take care of himself. Im still waiting to get invited to another steak BB-cue at Los Banos. Maybe its my turn though. Perhaps this coming fall Ill have to take care of that. Best wishes Cliff Lindgren From: Klaus Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:39 PM To: 'Cliff E-Mail'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked.. Hi Cliff. Have you ever met with Gordy? As soon as he posts, you are ready with a vitriolic reply. Tall poppy syndrome??? regards Klaus Weiss Sydney Australia http://www.hsl.org.au From: Cliff E-Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 1 July 2005 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked.. Thanks for the update. We had a feeling you were unreliable and full of BS. You have removed all doubt. Using such feeble excuses such as a flat tire shows absolutely no creativity on your part. Surely someone like you can come up with some new and more original material Gordy. Best wishes Cliff Lindgren
RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked..
I get joy out of Cliff jabbing Gordy. Keep up those excellent posts Cliff. :-) Steve Meyer At 09:40 PM 7/1/2005, Cliff E-Mail wrote: Klaus, yes Ive met with Gordy flown with him at Los Banos a few years back consider him a friend. He knows my sense of humor and realizes that the the things I have to say are mostly Tongue in cheek. Unfortunately for all of us, emails dont reliably convey tone. For the most part, I dont even reply to Gordys posts but then theres always that time he leaves himself way out on a limb I just cant seem to help myself and feel the urge to take a pot shot at him. At any rate, Gordy is a big boy, and a great guy who can take care of himself. Im still waiting to get invited to another steak BB-cue at Los Banos. Maybe its my turn though. Perhaps this coming fall Ill have to take care of that. Best wishes Cliff Lindgren From: Klaus Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:39 PM To: 'Cliff E-Mail'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked.. Hi Cliff. Have you ever met with Gordy? As soon as he posts, you are ready with a vitriolic reply. Tall poppy syndrome??? regards Klaus Weiss Sydney Australia http://www.hsl.org.au From: Cliff E-Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 1 July 2005 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked.. Thanks for the update. We had a feeling you were unreliable and full of BS. You have removed all doubt. Using such feeble excuses such as a flat tire shows absolutely no creativity on your part. Surely someone like you can come up with some new and more original material Gordy. Best wishes Cliff Lindgren
Re: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked..
Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get joy out of Cliff jabbing Gordy. Keep up those excellent posts Cliff. :-) Maybe we should all give it a try. We could have a sort of online contest. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Online Contest...
Maybe we should all give it a try. We could have a sort of online contest. Could, or you could build a sailplane to fly, or fly a sailplane and post something about that at Soaring@airage.com :-) You could compete to see who could write the most interesting post on that topicit would be something new for you, but I believe in you! :-) Gordy Sailing the Chesapeake with MichaelVolz today, soaring Louisville tomorrow
RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked..
OK! You might be on to something here. We'll have a contest and see who can finally upset Gordy with a nasty post aimed at him. My guess is nobody will win but what fun we'll have trying! Keep it clean though. No shots below the belt..not while the Ref's looking anyways. Best wishes Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:17 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked.. Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get joy out of Cliff jabbing Gordy. Keep up those excellent posts Cliff. :-) Maybe we should all give it a try. We could have a sort of online contest. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] MidSouth Champs Sucked..
Will be soaring in 12 hours. Nice day ahead here in Chi town. At SummerFest in 36 hours. Nice weekend shaping up here in Brew town. Santana - Los-Loneley Boys - Fireworks - Food and Drink. What better to celebrate Independence Day. More Soaring. Gordy, you know I'm off on Tuesday as well. ;-) Steven Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 10:17 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get joy out of Cliff jabbing Gordy. Keep up those excellent posts Cliff. :-) Maybe we should all give it a try. We could have a sort of online contest. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
On Jul 1, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Daryl Perkins wrote: A lovely write-up about the new Insanity. (good name) Question: is that a 4 or 6 servo wing? Has Joe released any of the JW series of airfoil coordinates yet to the unwashed masses? Cheers, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
it's a 4 servo wing. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com - Original Message - From: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Yahoo soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal On Jul 1, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Daryl Perkins wrote: A lovely write-up about the new Insanity. (good name) Question: is that a 4 or 6 servo wing? Has Joe released any of the JW series of airfoil coordinates yet to the unwashed masses? Cheers, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
