[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6983
Jim Laurel, I read your informal test of PCM vs. PPM on your JR radio. I have never heard that you could avoid channel conflict by using a PCM receiver. Failsafe and, perhaps faster or more solid signal handling were what I heard. Can anyone confirm this ability of a PCM receiver to ignore a PPM signal on the same channel? Could be a good reason for me to consider using PCM. I never had a good reason before. Ed Anderson aeajr on the forums Long Island Silent Flyers www.lisf.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: Jr R700 rx in contest environment?
Sorry. Same channel = problems for both Though a good Rx can outperform a poor one and therefore be the one still in the air. Also if the guy with the good Rx is closer to his plane or have a better Tx/antenna he can have control longer than the one with a slightly offset Tx/short antenna/poor antenna PCM versus PPM have nothing or little effect on range or better performance. What PCM does better is giving you the right movement without any jittering. The PPM system actually gives better range but with some jitter possible. The difference you see at the tests are because the whole receiver is built up in a better way. I have never tested the R700 in a contest so I cant tell if it will be good. Tested it in a electric seaplane though and it was good. Hilsen (Regards) Jojo NEW: www.jojoen.no Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:55:15 -0500 From: Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: Soaring V1 #6983 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Laurel, I read your informal test of PCM vs. PPM on your JR radio. I have never heard that you could avoid channel conflict by using a PCM receiver. Failsafe and, perhaps faster or more solid signal handling were what I heard. Can anyone confirm this ability of a PCM receiver to ignore a PPM signal on the same channel? Could be a good reason for me to consider using PCM. I never had a good reason before. Ed Anderson aeajr on the forums Long Island Silent Flyers www.lisf.org -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6983
Ed, No manufacturer has ever claimed that PCM would work alongside FM on the same channel. I wouldn't jump to that conclusion based on one test. In fact I wouldn't even entertain the notion that it might be remotely possible. The only reason I ever saw for using PCM receivers was the ability to change out the transmitter battery while the airplane was in flight. The PCM receiver - if no fail save settings have been implemented - will hold the last settings when signal is lost. So if the plane is trimmed for level flight you can shut down the transmitter for a while without the plane going nuts. Hope this helps Rick At 04:55 AM 1/17/2006, Ed Anderson wrote: Jim Laurel, I read your informal test of PCM vs. PPM on your JR radio. I have never heard that you could avoid channel conflict by using a PCM receiver. Failsafe and, perhaps faster or more solid signal handling were what I heard. Can anyone confirm this ability of a PCM receiver to ignore a PPM signal on the same channel? Could be a good reason for me to consider using PCM. I never had a good reason before. Ed Anderson aeajr on the forums Long Island Silent Flyers www.lisf.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] carbon boom interference, Ham guy inputs.
I made the mistake (teasing) of mentioning this to a Ham guy I work with. He looked at the picture of me, the radios, and the plane - immediately said you've got vertical and horizontal polarization. Then, yes, the carbon boom could be causing you issues in that orientation. A half hour and 2 chalkboards later... The best ideas he had was a triangle shape going out the wing, back the fuse, back via the other wing - optimally connecting to the ground of the battery. That blew my mind. Plan B is the antenna above or below the boom, trailing to a half wave - he guessed (not knowing all the details of RC radios) the antenna length to be 39 for a half wave. The other idea he had was 2 antennas, both 39 - one normal, run out one wing. The other antenna would be hooked to the battery ground, out the other wing. I suggested one down the wing, the other down the boom. He said that would probably be bad, too directional. The triangle approach sounds interesting, anyone else hear something similar? He thinks that if you do it right, you get the RX into a vertical polarization, more like the transmitter. Thanks to all who've given input on this! Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] carbon boom interference, Ham guy inputs.
The triangle approach sounds interesting, anyone else hear something similar? I use triangle patterns all the time in my delta wing designs, they work very well, but I have the space to keep it internal, I wouldn't want an external triangle training behind the TE to the boom. it would be in the dirty air leaving the TE, but it would still cause unwanted drag and might even start oscillating which would create a lot of drag The balanced dipole, I.E. ground running out the other wing, should be optimal, BUT, the rx mfg. has already tuned the system to allow for the ground structure of the entire average flight pack to be used as the ground. You would need the ability to test and tune the ground lead, so it is balanced with the antenna, this may not be necessary and it would be easy enough to do some empiracle testing. You could start with a 1/2 wave ground, do range tests (on the ground) and then start clipping 1/2 at a time. It isn't a perfect test, but you would find out something useful. It may be that you find out it isn't worth wasting time playing with antennas when you could be flying with a proven installation... Mark Mech (on Lummi Island, wishing it would stop raining long enough to do ANYTHING!) www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Bill Valentine of Occomac
Bill. . .please ping me. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash...
Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/01/16/1396184-sun.html Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash...
I don't think it was deliberate. It was just a model that had engine failure. I kind of resent the use of the word 'toy' to describe it, though. I've heard of this happening before but not with anything like this small -- I can understand someone mistaking a large scale model landing where planes don't usually land for a full-size in trouble. But then I believe people occasionally mistake full sized sailplane outlandings for crashes (in one case reported a few years back the owner got back to the plane after phoning for the trailer just in time to prevent the FD from covering it in foam to prevent the JP-4 from catching fire (No, its not got an engine!)). Martin Usher Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below. (Marc Gellart) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash...
Unfortunately folks in our captital are a little slow this time of the year ;^) Marc Gellart wrote: Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/01/16/1396184-sun.html Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash...
Is the little picture in the lower left for the Sunshine Girl the R/C soaring related item in this post? Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: Unfortunately folks in our captital are a little slow this time of the year ;^) Marc Gellart wrote: Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/01/16/1396184-sun.html Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash...
If that works for ya... Michael Lachowski wrote: Is the little picture in the lower left for the Sunshine Girl the R/C soaring related item in this post? Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: Unfortunately folks in our captital are a little slow this time of the year ;^) Marc Gellart wrote: Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/01/16/1396184-sun.html Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m!
http://www.mandsmodels.com/Apex.html this is one of those jewels that are often not noticed, well mostly cuz it is a 2m :-) However, while it is NOT an Organic, it does fly well and it is a more conventional looking ship for those of you who want a two piece wing shipand it's about half of a new Organic. I got to see it fly, head to head, man on man against my new Pike Giant, and while I have to temper my enthusiasm for its performance some cuz it was flown by Florida's 2m fanatic (Rick Eckels)...the two of them did end up being giant-killers that day (no need to re-mention the fact that I got bit by a line break :-). In any case if you guys are looking for a bagged, live hinged 2m, take a look at the Apex... Gordy Bradenton Florida tonite
[RCSE] Gyro question
Is turning the gyro gain all the way down the equivalent of bypassing it? I want to experiment flying my DLG without the rudder gyro, but avoid ripping it out for now. Also, what's the thinking on gyros in DLGs these days? With or without? I have a feeling it's doing strange things that I might be better off without after launching. Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] F3J Junior Team Manager
Hi Everyone, Some of you will soon be getting a letter from AMA to nominate the Junior Team Manager. The Junior Team decided to select Bob Vixie to be our team manager, but did not know we would not be allowed to decide for our self's. Because of this I would like to encourage you to nominate Bob Vixie when you vote. Bob Vixie was one of the CDs at the F3J Team Selections, and would be a great asset to the team. Thanks, Cody Remington Junior F3J Team Member RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m!
Well Well another 40oz!! 2Meter I Hope!! what does it weight RTF Will IBeat Edgar with it Mike.M Team SWSA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] "You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m!" http://www.mandsmodels.com/Apex.html this is one of those jewels that are often not noticed, well mostly cuz it is a 2m :-) However, while it is NOT an Organic, it does fly well and it is a more conventional looking ship for those of you who want a two piece wing shipand it's about half of a new Organic. I got to see it fly, head to head, man on man against my new Pike Giant, and while I have to temper my enthusiasm for its performance some cuz it was flown by Florida's 2m fanatic (Rick Eckels)...the two of them did end up being giant-killers that day (no need to re-mention the fact that I got bit by a line break :-). In any case if you guys are looking for a bagged, live hinged 2m, take a look at the Apex... Gordy Bradenton Florida tonite
[RCSE] You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m!
Well Well another 40oz!! 2Meter I Hope!! what does it weight RTF Will IBeat Edgar with it Mike.M Team SWSA Hi Mike, I am pretty sure that you are the only guy in the country who actually owns a scale or cares about the weight of a sailplane...and wants to beat Edgar! :-) I buy planes cuz I like them, like the look of them or like how they perform. I never buy because of an airfoil or weight and...I have never weighed a sailplane. But I think I have some advice that seems too logicalall these years that you and Edgar have been friends/competitors, you have always had the lighter 2mand he usually wins Maybe its time for you to do the opposite, sort of like George on Seinfeld did. Instead of distracting your efforts with thoughts about weight, just get yourself an APEX, get it tuned up and go out and whip the SoaringJunkie's butt ...er I mean win in a soaring contest against Edgar :-) He will be totally dumbfounded when you show up with this ship! :-)Gordy
Re: [RCSE] Gyro question
- Original Message - From: Tom Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] what's the thinking on gyros in DLGs these days? A gyro will probably not increase the maximum launch height of an aileron DLG model that is properly set up and properly thrown. There are some situations where a gyro may help: 1) They may help with polyhedral DLG models. 2) They may make your launches more consistent by fixing problems caused by bad launch technique. 3) They may help a novice who is just learning to throw, once again by fixing a bad throwing technique. As DLG moves more and more to flaperon models and pilots become more and more proficient with the throwing technique you see less and less use of gyros. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: Soaring V1 #6988
I don't see a problem with this. Some guy out in field flying his scale model and he crashes. Some passerby sees it and mistakes it for a real plane. Amusing but not stupid. -Original Message- From: Soaring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:21 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Soaring V1 #6988 SoaringTue, 17 Jan 2006 Volume 1 : Number 6988 In this issue: Small [R/C] plane crash... -- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:07:11 -0500 From: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Small [R/C] plane crash... Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/01/16/1396184-sun.html Marc -- End of Soaring V1 #6988 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Gyro question - helps me
In a message dated 1/17/06 7:15:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is turning the gyro gain all the way down the equivalent of bypassing it? It is close enough. You should not notice any input from the Gyro. Also, what's the thinking on gyros in DLGs these days? I agree with Phil Barnes that most aileron models do not need one, but I also agree that it helps avoid those "banana" launches. So for a young, well coordinated person like yourself, you should do well without it. But for an erratic old fart like myself, I am virtually assured of a consistently good launch with the Gyro. It does resist the turn on occasion, but I have learned to live with it. Is the Gyro for sale now? Don RichmondSan Diego, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
RE: [RCSE] You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m!
Do we have any idea how much an Apex will be? That looks like a pretty sweet 2M ship. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 19:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m! Well Well another 40oz!! 2Meter I Hope!! what does it weight RTF Will IBeat Edgar with it Mike.M Team SWSA Hi Mike, I am pretty sure that you are the only guy in the country who actually owns a scale or cares about the weight of a sailplane...and wants to beat Edgar! :-) I buy planes cuz I like them, like the look of them or like how they perform. I never buy because of an airfoil or weight and...I have never weighed a sailplane. But I think I have some advice that seems too logicalall these years that you and Edgar have been friends/competitors, you have always had the lighter 2mand he usually wins Maybe its time for you to do the opposite, sort of like George on Seinfeld did. Instead of distracting your efforts with thoughts about weight, just get yourself an APEX, get it tuned up and go out and whip the SoaringJunkie's butt ...er I mean win in a soaring contest against Edgar :-) He will be totally dumbfounded when you show up with this ship! :-) Gordy
[RCSE] Re: FS - Making room...
Seems the market is soft, so I have dropped prices; SU-27 Flanker, one-off composite, 53 span, Airtronics 94258's on aileavators. Slope experience required not for the faint-of-heart as this aircraft flies extremely well and as fast as you dare on the slope. Roll control is more than satisfactory on high rates. Wing airfoil transitions nicely from a fast section at the root to good lifting at the tips, makes landings a non-issue at low speeds (tip stalling is difficult to accomplish). Obscure black on black paint scheme from early flight-testing. Add RX and hang on. $450 Pike Superior full carbon w/368's/3301's/301's, excellent shape, just add RX. $1000 Stratos 5 F3B, w/Wing Maxx digitals/Micro Maxx's, like-new (set-up flights), just add RX. $1000 -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] FS - Making room...
Seems the market is soft, so the prices have been lowered; SU-27 Flanker, one-off composite, 53 span, Airtronics 94258's on aileavators. Slope experience required not for the faint-of-heart as this aircraft flies extremely well and as fast as you dare on the slope. Roll control is more than satisfactory on high rates. Wing airfoil transitions nicely from a fast section at the root to good lifting at the tips, makes landings a non-issue at low speeds (tip stalling is difficult to accomplish). Obscure black on black paint scheme from early flight-testing. Add RX and hang on. $450 Pike Superior full carbon w/368's/3301's/301's, excellent shape, just add RX. $1050 Stratos 5 F3B, w/Wing Maxx digitals/Micro Maxx's, like-new (set-up flights), just add RX. Asking $1050 -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash...
In the early 80's, our son was flying a 2x6 in a contest in Mount Vernon, Washington. He had a pop-off and the sailplane had nearly immediate nose-first contact with the ground. Within minutes, two of the the local police were out at the Tercel's field wanting to know where the airplane crashed. Someone driving by had apparently seen a portion of the episode and called 911 to report an airplane crash. There was a full size glider port fairly close by, so in retrospect the response was not that surprising. The police were actually somewhat amused and stayed to watch the flying for a short while. No, the incident didn't make the papers so far as we know. -- B^2 Bill Bunny Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash...
I think what has been missed so far is that the Fraser Highway runs right alongside the Remote Control Flying Club of British Columbia main flying field. This is the largest flying club in the Vancouver area and it's field is very busy. You would have thought the local RCMP detachment would have figured this out... Phil in Vancouver -Original Message- From: Bill Bunny Kuhlman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 17, 2006 10:55 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Small [R/C] plane crash... In the early 80's, our son was flying a 2x6 in a contest in Mount Vernon, Washington. He had a pop-off and the sailplane had nearly immediate nose-first contact with the ground. Within minutes, two of the the local police were out at the Tercel's field wanting to know where the airplane crashed. Someone driving by had apparently seen a portion of the episode and called 911 to report an airplane crash. There was a full size glider port fairly close by, so in retrospect the response was not that surprising. The police were actually somewhat amused and stayed to watch the flying for a short while. No, the incident didn't make the papers so far as we know. -- B^2 Bill Bunny Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] F3J Junior Team Manager
FYI, If you don't know Bob -- he has participated in three US team selections; the last time as assisting CD. He knows F3J and he knows how to run a team. He has great organization and communication skills. I think he would be an excellent choice for jr team manager. Mark From: Cody Remington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 1/17/2006 5:25 PM To: Soaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] F3J Junior Team Manager Hi Everyone, Some of you will soon be getting a letter from AMA to nominate the Junior Team Manager. The Junior Team decided to select Bob Vixie to be our team manager, but did not know we would not be allowed to decide for our self's. Because of this I would like to encourage you to nominate Bob Vixie when you vote. Bob Vixie was one of the CDs at the F3J Team Selections, and would be a great asset to the team. Thanks, Cody Remington Junior F3J Team Member RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
