[RCSE] F3J Fundraiser Contest this weekend??
Does anyone have any idea if the F3J Fundraiser Contest is this weekend at poway on Sunday?? If so I need to get a plane ready for Battle Bigger is always Better at Poway I am thinking hmm 3.7 Meters maybe Miss "Sharon" would fit the Bill If so please bring Tshirts for Sale if someone has them Available Mike.M Team SWSA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Robert, Indeed, it is common sense and testing that makes a successful 2.4 GHz implementation. I converted my first plane into 2.4GHz last Saturday and flew it on Sunday without any problems. I installed a JR AR9000 and a remote receiver in the pod of my Arrow DLG. Although, the installation was simple since I had a fiberglass pod to work with, I still used the "glitch counter" after the initial setup and the first few flights to ensure all was well. After that I stopped worrying about it and flew for the rest of the day. After spending three hours flying pretty much non-stop to extreme altitudes and distances (really wanted to know if it worked!), I had a few fades, tons of fun and the confidence that I would not be taken down by someone on the same channel if I were on my standard 72MHz frequency. Try it - you just may like it! ;) Regards, Joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:33 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] 2.4 install how to? Hi Robert, Installation is pretty simple, but ground range testing is important. Follow the instructions. My tips below are for JR systems with aux receivers (satelite receivers). In a DLG with a CF fuselage, simply poke the antenna through the sides of the fuselage. You mentioned Larry Jolly described his Blaster installation. I'm assuming he did something similar. For sailplanes with slip-on nose cones: Most, if not all nose cones are fiberglass (as is the fuselage forward of the aft edge of the nose cone). Put your receiver and aux receiver in the nose. Range check while walking a complete circle around the plane, looking for loss of signal. A logger is useful. For CF fuselages: Poke the main receiver antenna through the sides. Even if only half of each antenna protrudes, that should be fine. If you have a CF D-tube wing, you can place the aux receiver near the flap servo. I did this install with Joe Rodriguez's plane and it worked great (with good logger numbers). With a full CF wing: You can put the aux receiver in the nose and poke the antenna out. You can also mount it to the underside of the canopy and poke the antenna outside. I've heard you might still be able to place the aux receiver in the flap servo pocket since the CF is pretty thin, but I've never done this and don't have any info to back up this claim. Likewise, you might be able to mount the aux receiver in the fuselage, behind the tow hook, if the fuselage is a CF/kevlar weave (lots of RF "holes"). But again, I haven't tried this or taken any measurements or data points. In both these cases, the main receiver should still have its antenna poked out the sides of the fuselage. Keep in mind that the aux receiver usually does 75% of the work since the main receiver is often blocked in between the battery and servos. This becomes more of a factor for a fiberglass nose since the antenna will tend to be enclosed in the fuselage. A CF nose would have the antenna poked outside and be more "visible" to the transmitter from a nose-on or tail-on postion. I crammed everything into the nose on my Zenith and Eraser (both have FG nose cones and CF aft of the nose), and have had no problems. Small changes in antenna position can make a big difference in reception. Thats why it's important to do a good initial ground range check. Having a logger in place for the first few flights is helpful to confirm your range checks. Larry moved an aux receiver in his Danny by about an inch (it was in an obviously poor, but convenient, location) and that small move improved reception dramatically. The obvious good location would be in the fin since they are usually fiberglass above the stab. There is a limit to how long the aux reciever extension lead can be (I think its around 36 inches) which might preclude placing it in the fin. I believe the limit is due to voltage drop considerations. I might try a longer than recommended lead and see if there are any problems associated with that. Its not magic---just a little common sense and range checking. Hope this helps. Ben Clerx ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
[RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Hi Robert, Installation is pretty simple, but ground range testing is important. Follow the instructions. My tips below are for JR systems with aux receivers (satelite receivers). In a DLG with a CF fuselage, simply poke the antenna through the sides of the fuselage. You mentioned Larry Jolly described his Blaster installation. I'm assuming he did something similar. For sailplanes with slip-on nose cones: Most, if not all nose cones are fiberglass (as is the fuselage forward of the aft edge of the nose cone). Put your receiver and aux receiver in the nose. Range check while walking a complete circle around the plane, looking for loss of signal. A logger is useful. For CF fuselages: Poke the main receiver antenna through the sides. Even if only half of each antenna protrudes, that should be fine. If you have a CF D-tube wing, you can place the aux receiver near the flap servo. I did this install with Joe Rodriguez's plane and it worked great (with good logger numbers). With a full CF wing: You can put the aux receiver in the nose and poke the antenna out. You can also mount it to the underside of the canopy and poke the antenna outside. I've heard you might still be able to place the aux receiver in the flap servo pocket since the CF is pretty thin, but I've never done this and don't have any info to back up this claim. Likewise, you might be able to mount the aux receiver in the fuselage, behind the tow hook, if the fuselage is a CF/kevlar weave (lots of RF "holes"). But again, I haven't tried this or taken any measurements or data points. In both these cases, the main receiver should still have its antenna poked out the sides of the fuselage. Keep in mind that the aux receiver usually does 75% of the work since the main receiver is often blocked in between the battery and servos. This becomes more of a factor for a fiberglass nose since the antenna will tend to be enclosed in the fuselage. A CF nose would have the antenna poked outside and be more "visible" to the transmitter from a nose-on or tail-on postion. I crammed everything into the nose on my Zenith and Eraser (both have FG nose cones and CF aft of the nose), and have had no problems. Small changes in antenna position can make a big difference in reception. Thats why it's important to do a good initial ground range check. Having a logger in place for the first few flights is helpful to confirm your range checks. Larry moved an aux receiver in his Danny by about an inch (it was in an obviously poor, but convenient, location) and that small move improved reception dramatically. The obvious good location would be in the fin since they are usually fiberglass above the stab. There is a limit to how long the aux reciever extension lead can be (I think its around 36 inches) which might preclude placing it in the fin. I believe the limit is due to voltage drop considerations. I might try a longer than recommended lead and see if there are any problems associated with that. Its not magic---just a little common sense and range checking. Hope this helps. Ben Clerx ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
[RCSE] For Sale - New - Jaro Muller Espada R and Servos
Guys, I have a brand new Espada R for sale. I'm sure everyone knows how beautiful Jaro's planes are, how great they fly and how hard they are to come by. I got this one new in November for F3J and TD flying and hate to let it go but business calls. Specifications: Wing Span - 127.6 in Wing Area - 6.7 ft2 Flying Weight - 62 ounces Wing Loading - 9.25 oz/ft2 Length - 57.7 in Airfoil - HN - 785JM Yellow wing tops with Red tips Yellow and Red wing bottoms (Wide stripes for visibility) Red Fuse The wiring for the wing servos is done and the wing pigtails end in Volz mini plugs. Complete with Custom bags Full Ballast Set custom for this plane $1700 shipped in the Continental US. (That's about $150 off what it would cost you for a new one and you don't have to wait!) Optional servos if you need them. $400 if you take them all. 2 x JR-3421s for the rudder and elevator 2 x Volz Wing Maxx Digitals for the ailerons 2 x Volx Micro Maxx X Digitals for the flaps If you need to see pix I'll have some tomorrow. Thanks for looking, -- Greg Smith Slope Soaring Resource http://www.slopeflyer.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Dale Nutter's Futaba 2.4s
Jack. I think you will find the 9c very intuitive to program.. Kind of like using a Mac vers Dos... Sure dos worked and you could use it.. But why ? :-))) Craig schrederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just picked up a new Futaba 9C with the FASST module. I am already into a 9303 for a year and I really like it. One or the other will likely be up for sale, soon. I'll be dogging Dale about programming and so forth... as well as reading his article several times. It'll be interesting how this turns out. i'll go through everything with an open mind... like everyone has with my winglets...HA! :p See you soon, Dale... Jack Womack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=825692 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Dale Nutter's Futaba 2.4s
Jack. I think you will find the 9c very intuitive to program.. Kind of like using a Mac vers Dos... Sure dos worked and you could use it.. But why ? :-))) Craig schrederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just picked up a new Futaba 9C with the FASST module. I am already into a 9303 for a year and I really like it. One or the other will likely be up for sale, soon. I'll be dogging Dale about programming and so forth... as well as reading his article several times. It'll be interesting how this turns out. i'll go through everything with an open mind... like everyone has with my winglets...HA! :p See you soon, Dale... Jack Womack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=825692 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: covering
I've read these complaints about moneycoat for years and I just don't get it. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it's never happened to me. Still a Monocote fan. Jack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Grand Esprit and Astro Jeff
Mr. Jim Ealy, mentioned above, has been around for a long time, and has a sterling reputation. I doubt you'll be disappointed. Jack Womack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803739 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Grand Esprit and Astro Jeff
This fellow is apparently selling kits, short kits and plans for the Astro Jeff. I don't know anything about him but found his site while surfing. http://www.vintagesailplaner.com/ Geppetto -- 1stGeppetto 1stGeppetto's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=81587 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803739 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: For Sale: JR790 Receivers
Don't need receivers, but got a really good laugh outa that... nice way to kick start Sunday morning. In fact I almost had to clean coffee off the monitor, but I barely kept myself from spitting it all over the room. Thanks Jack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826688 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: For Sale: JR790 Receivers
Joe - Ping me off line. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks -- nomotor nomotor's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=167938 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826688 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Free DVdeeeeees this week.
Waited too long. :( -- willhaney willhaney's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=28040 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821377 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: "You Think You Want to See Sailplanes, Well I Don't Think You Can Handle It!"
If you're REALLY a sailplane guy... it's LOW class... Just kidding, of course... Jack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826553 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2.4 install how to?
Ben Clerx and others have gone all 2.4. I'd certainly appreciate it if he (they) would share the specifics of their installations. For me, particularly, in the Organic and in a TabooGt, if possible. Larry Jolly showed me his installation in a Blaster2. Anyone else out there with successful "real life" installations who will share the information? Robert Samuels . St. Louis _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/
[RCSE] Re: The new Jr 12X
I too am looking forward to there arrival, so that I can swoop-up on all the great deals of people selling their 9303 and 770s :D -- atjurhs atjurhs's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=68283 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=825855 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: seriously offended
Gordo's really nice guy... Ya'll quit picking on him... Yeah, he's a bit silly, but ain't we all? Crass, rude, tactless, too opionated? Yeah but so is everyone else on here, except me of course... You know, he actually makes sense, once in a while, sorta, maybe... maybe(?) Hi Gordy Jack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826013 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Dale Nutter's Futaba 2.4s
I just picked up a new Futaba 9C with the FASST module. I am already into a 9303 for a year and I really like it. One or the other will likely be up for sale, soon. I'll be dogging Dale about programming and so forth... as well as reading his article several times. It'll be interesting how this turns out. i'll go through everything with an open mind... like everyone has with my winglets...HA! :p See you soon, Dale... Jack Womack -- schrederman schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=825692 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Data logging
In my recent post about Data logging I said that I would not worry about holds until they got above 10. Well that was a typo. It should say above 0. I think that any holds are to much and your receivers should be reoriented to reduce the holds to 0. Walter _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
RE: [RCSE] Data Logging
The Spektrum tx puts out 45 frames per second. A fade occurs when any bit of data in that frame is corrupted or lost or whatever. A frame loss occurs when the receiver detects a fade in the same frame from each receiver. On a AR6100 that would be one receiver, on a AR6200 and AR7000 that would be two receivers and on a AR9000 or JR921 that could be three or four receivers. A hold occurs when the receiver detects 45 consecutive frame losses. Or you could say one second of bad or corrupted data. How do you define what is good or bad? Well in a ten minute flight with a Spektrum system there are 27000 frames of data (45 frames per sec X 60 sec/min X 10=27000). On my 2.4 friendly Pike I avg about 30 to 150 fades per rx with a frame loss of less than 50 and 0 holds. Now I don't think that is to bad. On one flight I had in the high 200 to low 300 fades on each rx but only 1 frame loss and 0 holds. I still thought that that was good. Remember that in 10 minutes there are 27000 frames. I probably would not start worrying until the frame losses got a lot higher and the holds increased above something like 10 or twenty. On that one flight that I had so many fades I was quite high right over head and it is quite possible that I had the ant. pointed right at the ship. I feel that one should never point the 2.4 ant. right at the aircraft but should have it perpendicular to an imaginary line extending from the tx to the plane. Walter> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:01:13 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Soaring@airage.com> Subject: [RCSE] Data Logging> > I'm curious with the new found religion of using an in flight glitch > counter (data logger) on the 2.4 stuff if anyone has any data from 72 > band radios?? It would be interesting to know how they compared.> > It would also be interesting to know what the failure threshold is for > packet loss. How many packets need to fail, how many in a row, etc. > before it results in an actual loss or degradation of control.> > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send 'subscribe' and 'unsubscribe' requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/
[RCSE] Data Logging
I'm curious with the new found religion of using an in flight glitch counter (data logger) on the 2.4 stuff if anyone has any data from 72 band radios?? It would be interesting to know how they compared. It would also be interesting to know what the failure threshold is for packet loss. How many packets need to fail, how many in a row, etc. before it results in an actual loss or degradation of control. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] "Results are in -BUT what are they????"
Couple of weeks ago I got back my nearly one year old AR7000 from Horizon. I had them updated it to the "quick connect" configuration. I had read that the logger will work on older AR7000 if it's plug into the battery port. I tried it and it sort of worked. The logger recognized there was only one main receiver and one remote. But the data was nonsense. I called Horizon back about this and was told the AR7000 can be upgraded for logger operation but you specifically have to request it. I hadn't. You might call and verify this. Allan Worrest >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:57:29 EST >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: "Results are in -BUT what are they" >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---1204556249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >Hi Ryan, >Thanks for the comments but :-) >You had and have an opportunity to provide some real information in >your >post. Take a look backf...you go on about not having an RX that >doesn't take a >logger, you pine for an less expensive rx that does, and you mention >that >there was the first contest of the season in St Louis. >But what readers would like to hear about from you : (and all of you >sailplaners out there!) >1 Okay so you don't have a logger or an RX that can use onebut which >plane are you flying your 2.4 in? Considering the context of the title >(carbon >?fuse solutions) it might be some value to mentioning your airframe. >2 What steps did you take (in detail) to satisfy yourself that your >system >was safe to fly? >3 IF your ship has a carbon fuse, what did you do special to make it >work ? >4 How many guys were at the contest, how many rounds, who won, what did >they >fly, again in the context of the title. >5 How many guys were using 2.4 systems, and were any in carbon fuses? >5 Did any have Flight Loggers? >Come on guys we could all use contest results, planes flown and 2.4 >info.! >You all wax on about why attendance seems down? Maybe because no ones >talking about the contests, sailplanes and now 2.4 fun. >THINK about it, if it weren't for guys like Ira, Don, Mike, Keith >recording >their experiments and sharing them with the rest, we'd all be >re-creating the >same experiments. >We're all waiting for the rest of the story :-). >Gordy In a message dated 3/3/2008 9:16:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Can any of you guys post what kind of numbers you are seeing with a 2.4 > friendly fuse plane? > >I'd be happy to share my results with you, but I don't have a receiver >that interfaces with the logger. :-( Hopefully Horizon will come out >with a version of the AR7000 that interfaces with the logger, or >perhaps an AR9000 will make its way to me for Father's day or something >(that sounds unlikely). >So right now I'm one of those fellows that is "living on a prayer" as a >person might say. But, to date I have no problems to report. >I was at St. Louis on Saturday for thier first club contest of the >year. My radios worked great but the pilot could probably still use >some work. :-) >I need to send in my dues to LASS for 2008. Not sure how much I'll be >able to fly with you all this year, got lucky this past weekend because >the weather and the babysitters were in harmony for that St. Louis >trip. >Ryan _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] "Orlando Or Bust For a Two Day MOM!"
Hi Guys, I hate to jinx it but its looking good for me to be at the two day in Orlando this weekend (then I have to go to Montego Bay for a couple and Disney World too). So get your TX's and RX's charged up, your chance to beat Gordy! :-) Fingers X'd! Should know for sure this afternoon! Gordy **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
RE: [RCSE] Re: "Results are in -BUT what are they????" - wish list
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [RCSE] Re: 'Results are in -BUT what are they' - wish listDate: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:18:42 -0600 Don, Spektrum has done this. I just recently sent my AR7000 in to have the firmware updated and when I got the rx back I noticed that they had put a new case on it. The new case now says Batt/Data where before it only said Batt. So I not only got the latest firmware installed gratis but I got the ability to d/l data from the rx after a flight via the logger just like the latest version of the AR7000. Just send your 7000 in to Horizion and ask them to upgrade the firmware (send all of your Spektrum rx in except for the 6100 I believe) they will upgrade the firmware to the fast reconnect version and then pick up the shipping back to you. I just sent in (2weeks ago) two AR9000, one JR921 and one AR7000 for the firmware upgrade and had everything back in about 8 days. Walter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:34:11 -0500Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: 'Results are in -BUT what are they' - wish listTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/3/08 8:17:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the AR7000 and I think it is a good size RX and fits in my Psyko fuselage nicely. I do hope that Horizon comes out with a logging version of this RX. This wish was excerpted from Ryan's message. I would like to add that a 2 satellite version of the AR700 would also be nice along with the logger version. The smaller size of 7000 fits nicely in more models than the 9000 series. I have it in my Supra with a 2.4 friendly fuse and have not had any problems. The 7000 fits nicely behind the servos, in a hole that permits the Pic to sit on top just ahead of the ballast tube. Good luck Ryan. Don RichmondSan Diego, [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008
[RCSE] "New things I've found on the JR/Spectrum 2.4 System"
Hi Guys in my experiements with adapting the systems to existing carbon nose cone and canopy style fuselage saiplanes, I ran across this weird phenom: IF I turn off the power the RX's with the TX onthen turn the power back on, the remote RX's light flashes slowly. Even if I power the RX system off again multiple times, the same happens. I didn't know what that meant or if it when it happened would it cause a problem for me. I found that to stop that from happening, I have to also turn off the TX each time I power off the RX's. I didn't find anything in the manuals about the light flashing slowly on the remote RX, which is different than during the 'binding' process, which causes all the lights to blink rapidly... So I asked the experts at Horizon...here's the scoop, its actually an extra cool feature that can help with identifying bad switches and battery wiring plugs. A heavy load can cause a momentary loss of all power if the switch is funky or a plug pin wallowed out (or one of the power wires is frayed inside). Even though it was created for that purpose! Plenty of plane never came out of the bucket on launch because of this. Take a look at the info and link below...even if you haven't jumped into 2.4 of any brand take a look at the Link Bar called Spektrum Community sub categories good to know as much as possible about 2.4 before you buy. Gordy That flashing is called quick-connect. It lets you know if the voltage momentarily goes below 3.5v. Previously when power loss/drop happened it would take 2 to 4 seconds for the receiver to “re-boot” and sync up with the tx again. This would sometimes cause the loss of a plane, so we developed this new feature. Here is a link to more detailed info. _http://www.spektrumrc.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1756_ (http://www.spektrumrc.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1756) **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
RE: [RCSE] Re: "Results are in -BUT what are they????" - wish list
Some AR 7000 will already work with the loggers. Just look to see if they say Batt/Data and if they do. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:34:11 -0500Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: "Results are in -BUT what are they" - wish listTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/3/08 8:17:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the AR7000 and I think it is a good size RX and fits in my Psyko fuselage nicely. I do hope that Horizon comes out with a logging version of this RX. This wish was excerpted from Ryan's message. I would like to add that a 2 satellite version of the AR700 would also be nice along with the logger version. The smaller size of 7000 fits nicely in more models than the 9000 series. I have it in my Supra with a 2.4 friendly fuse and have not had any problems. The 7000 fits nicely behind the servos, in a hole that permits the Pic to sit on top just ahead of the ballast tube. Good luck Ryan. Don RichmondSan Diego, [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
Re: [RCSE] Re: "Results are in -BUT what are they????" - wish list
In a message dated 3/3/08 8:17:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the AR7000 and I think it is a good size RX and fits in my Psyko fuselage nicely. I do hope that Horizon comes out with a logging version of this RX. This wish was excerpted from Ryan's message. I would like to add that a 2 satellite version of the AR700 would also be nice along with the logger version. The smaller size of 7000 fits nicely in more models than the 9000 series. I have it in my Supra with a 2.4 friendly fuse and have not had any problems. The 7000 fits nicely behind the servos, in a hole that permits the Pic to sit on top just ahead of the ballast tube. Good luck Ryan. Don Richmond San Diego, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
[RCSE] Re: "Results are in -BUT what are they????"
Err... Didn't you just have a "situation" not even a week ago with Craig Allen where he sent a public reply back to the RCSE copying a private reply you sent him? :-) Am I going to get a "Sorry Ryan" post like he posted for you? ;-) This was a private reply to you. I have copied RCSE in this reply, but it may never make it... Right Ryan! And a good point too! For all of you who are a bit lazy about your titlesRyan sent me his email off line, I saw the title RE RCSE so when I replied with my general note about getting some detail, (which I knew Ryan would have :-) I cc the soaring exchanges! I am pretty careful that when I respond to an RCSE email with a private message to erase RCSE from the title bar...for the reason above. So apologies to Ryan for not noticing ! And applause to Ryan for giving us the rest of the story! ;-) Thanks Ryan! Gordy In a message dated 3/3/2008 10:53:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Err... Didn't you just have a "situation" not even a week ago with Craig Allen where he sent a public reply back to the RCSE copying a private reply you sent him? :-) Am I going to get a "Sorry Ryan" post like he posted for you? ;-) This was a private reply to you. I have copied RCSE in this reply, but it may never make it... You specifically said does anyone have numbers on a "2.4 friendly fuse plane". I copied that text (and only that text) in my reply to you. I should have indicated I am flying the Psyko, but thought you would remember I fly a Psyko. :-) I own no full carbon fuselage planes at this time. Had I been intending to copy RCSE on the reply (and that would not have been useful, as I did not really have any useful info to add, I just wanted to send you a "hey" type email), I would have mentioned the plane. Since you sort of "outed me" here, I like the AR7000 and I think it is a good size RX and fits in my Psyko fuselage nicely. I have the main RX sitting above the battery about as close to the tip of the nose of the glider as I can get it, with the antennas in 90 degree different planes (both sort of vertical). The antennas are each on opposite sides of the battery. The battery probably blanks one RX antenna at any given time. I have the sat RX behind the servos near the LE of the wing. One antennas is in the horizontal plane one in the vertical plane. The sat RX is likely blanketed by the wing (as you know, all carbon ahead of the control surfaces) during launch and during some parts of circling. I do hope that Horizon comes out with a logging version of this RX. I only own a 7 channel transmitter, so I guess excuse me for thinking it makes the most sense for me to stick with 7 channel (or less, I suppose, for a park flyer) RXes. :-) I never really even gave any thought to the error logging, since it seemed to work so well and I timed for several folks using DX7s with their sailplanes this past season. But, checking for fades and holds sounds kind of fun, now that you start talking about it... The steps I took was I followed the range check procedure in the Spektrum manual. I had a friend hold the TX with the bind button down and then I walked out and counted paces till the Psyko quit responding. This was at about 70 paces (not very scientific, I'll get the GPS out and try it again). Then I walked back towards him and tried positioning the plane at different attitudes to simulate circling, launch, coming back towards me, etc. see if I could get it to quit responding. It never did. I did talk about the contest. _http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=827223_ (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=827223)I did not mention who won (but if you follow the link, you can see more details) . It was Chris Lee that won with a Pike Superior. Not that it really matters, we were all winners for enjoying each other's company and enjoying the good weather. So far as I'm aware, I was the only pilot there flying 2.4ghz Saturday. And, for the record, I was flying ch 37 72mhz in the Paragon, and that worked great as always too! :-) Ryan **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
[RCSE] "Okay So 2.4 is Coming..But 72 still works great so ..FOR SALE!"
Hi guys, I'm not converting everything over to 2.4, cuz in case you didn't notice the stuff ain't cheap. Looks like we have figured out how to make 2.4 work in both carbon nose cone fuses and carbon canopy fuses... so I'm not rushing out to sell my carbon fuses for 2.4 friendly versions. I have had spare RX's on hand and from the few fuses I have just converted, so want to send them to a new home. I have 4 JR 10 channel Synthesis'd PCM Rx, one new on box the others have the antenna's extended. All are in perfect condition, purchased spring of 07. Retail price is $180 each, if you take all four I'll let them go for $99 each. and pay shipping. Wait and wail... For the 9303 or I suppose 10X. Model 2100 Gordy 502 727 9595 cell **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
[RCSE] "For Sale: good deal on a nice Digital Camera"
A friend has this one for sale, pretty cheap. Wait and wail _http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5000/_ (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5000/) Fujifilm Finepix S5000 w/case, 3.2 megapixel with 10x zoom, XD memory plus a 512mb memory card which holds couple hundred pix. esp with the zoom He wants $150 for it. If anybody is interested, email him directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Gordy **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
[RCSE] "Results are in -BUT what are they????"
Hi Ryan, Thanks for the comments but :-) You had and have an opportunity to provide some real information in your post. Take a look backf...you go on about not having an RX that doesn't take a logger, you pine for an less expensive rx that does, and you mention that there was the first contest of the season in St Louis. But what readers would like to hear about from you : (and all of you sailplaners out there!) 1 Okay so you don't have a logger or an RX that can use onebut which plane are you flying your 2.4 in? Considering the context of the title (carbon fuse solutions) it might be some value to mentioning your airframe. 2 What steps did you take (in detail) to satisfy yourself that your system was safe to fly? 3 IF your ship has a carbon fuse, what did you do special to make it work ? 4 How many guys were at the contest, how many rounds, who won, what did they fly, again in the context of the title. 5 How many guys were using 2.4 systems, and were any in carbon fuses? 5 Did any have Flight Loggers? Come on guys we could all use contest results, planes flown and 2.4 info.! You all wax on about why attendance seems down? Maybe because no ones talking about the contests, sailplanes and now 2.4 fun. THINK about it, if it weren't for guys like Ira, Don, Mike, Keith recording their experiments and sharing them with the rest, we'd all be re-creating the same experiments. We're all waiting for the rest of the story :-). Gordy In a message dated 3/3/2008 9:16:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Can any of you guys post what kind of numbers you are seeing with a 2.4 > friendly fuse plane? > I'd be happy to share my results with you, but I don't have a receiver that interfaces with the logger. :-( Hopefully Horizon will come out with a version of the AR7000 that interfaces with the logger, or perhaps an AR9000 will make its way to me for Father's day or something (that sounds unlikely). So right now I'm one of those fellows that is "living on a prayer" as a person might say. But, to date I have no problems to report. I was at St. Louis on Saturday for thier first club contest of the year. My radios worked great but the pilot could probably still use some work. :-) I need to send in my dues to LASS for 2008. Not sure how much I'll be able to fly with you all this year, got lucky this past weekend because the weather and the babysitters were in harmony for that St. Louis trip. Ryan **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
