Re: [RCSE] Another reason not to Fly 2.4 GHz
As a CD I appreciate the SS pilots. It makes it a lot easier to set up the rounds when the frequencies of the pilot's chosen timer, or vs. versa, is no longer an issue. The Ham radio pilots have rarely caused a problem when trying to separate the pilot and timer. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: [RCSE] Another reason not to Fly 2.4 GHz I am sure this is just one of those things that can happen when New technologies are quickly accepted and infrastructure has just not reacted quickly enough to keep pace. What I am speaking about is the lack of accommodation to Spread Spectrum contestants and their timers at Soaring Competitions. As I am sure you know back in the old 72 MHz days if you wanted to have your own caller timer at a contest you just entered on the same frequency so that you would be available to help each other. This was the method in particular used at the Nats and the Masters. Because of the lack of identification of a unique SS frequency the SS guys are just piled in to the Matrix. This has caused some major headaches at the Nats where contestants have been held up waiting for Timers. My suggestion to those clubs that are having Contests with called flight order is to accept SS entries and either ask for team affiliation or Timer, Helper particulars. I am thinking you could identify SS flight groups as say SS1 SS2 SS3 and use the same 3-4 contetstants as is now offered to 72 MHz contestants. I believe that this will be fairer and help the contest run smoother. Larry -- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today.
[RCSE] Fresno Soaring Society good news
About a year ago I said that FSS was threatened with our flying site becoming a golf course. Our field is located in a county park, we have used our flying site since 1994. The county held 3 public workshops on purposed uses of the park which included our field. Our members attended the public workshops and spoke against the golf course. The majority of the public attending the meetings are against the golf course and indicated they wanted open space. I am confident we will be able to continue the use of our field as the county decided to drop the golf course. We probably will have to share the field with others but should be able to work out some arrangements. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. -Davy Crockett RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] more questions
Does anyone have a photo of the Organics V tail ass'y? It doesn't appear that the horns will fit into the fuse area to connect to the pushrods? And there are no photo's in the instructions George Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Organic Servos
Phil and all, I decided to use an Airtronics 761 for the flap, yes did have to trim away some of the rib. I'm going with HS-85,s for the rest of the setup as they are the smallest servos with ball bearings I have available. I want good holding power for the launches. :-) Thanks for all the input. BTW: I just returned from the IHLGF in Poway, and all I can say is WOWOWOWOW! This year was the best fly-off show I have ever seen, even better than the ones I participatedin, Many years ago :-( I hurt my back the day I left for the event, so had to have someone throw for me, And need to thank everyone, yes even Paul, (it wasn't his fault the fuse broke!) for allowing me to enjoy the event. Especially Dave Leedom who graciously provided me with a plane to finish the contest with. Then proceded to have a midair with me (Both his planes involved) He completed the round and I had to have him help me repair and get it back in the air the next round, TPG had a lot of new faces and they carried on the great tradition of fun and a well run event. My hats off to everyone who participated in that effort. Thanks again George Jo At 02:33 PM 6/3/2008 +, you wrote: George, on my old Organic I used Hitec 85 bb's for everything except the flat which is an 85MG. I had to relieve some of the balsa in the rib to make the flap servo fit in the proper location. On my new Organic I'm using Hitec 81's all the way around except for the flap which is also an 85 MG. I think these may be overkill but you really can't beat the price or speed. I think George Kennedy recommends the JR 241's or an alike. These have about 17 oz. of torque compared to the Hitec's 30. However, all that said, I think holding power and centering are the two most important requirements over torque. You'll love your Organic. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Organic
OK, So what servos are we using in the 2 mtr organic. No recomendations are in the instructions, Airt 761's won't fit for the flaps, nor will Hitec 82mg's They fit for the ailerons, but that seems like overkill, same for rudder and elevator. George Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Ron Scharck
Ron, Are you out there? The last 2 emails have not been returned or answered. Please contact me ASAP Thanks for the bandwidth George Joy Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Super Ava
One of the pilots who is a member of SSJSS in Bakersfield, Ca, is having some bad problems with his Super Eva. None of the members in his club or my club has one so we don't know how to help him. He says that very time he makes a turn it goes into a death spiral of about 45 degrees. The only way he can recover is to give it full down and opposite rudder and pull up when he has gained enough speed. His name is Gary Ellington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you can help him it would be greatly appreciated. He's in his late 50's. He doesn't subscribe to RCSE George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno Soaring Society Fresno, Ca We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. -Davy Crockett RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Mid South
Where do I find registration for the Mid-South? Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Charger
A new one retails for $54.95, and I have them in stock :-) George, The SIRIUS guy ! At 08:51 PM 3/24/2008 -0500, Steve Schneider wrote: I have one. Make an offer, I don't remember what I paid for it. Or ask Gordy what its worth, I'm sure he knows. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Tag1260 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to find a good Sirius Charge 200 for a couple small batteries that I use. Anyone got one that they aren't using that they'd like to sell? Thanks -- Tag1260 Tag1260's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=52340 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=836297 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Steve Schneider Buffalo Grove, IL SOAR Club Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SSJSS 2008 Bent Wing Contest
The Southern San Joaquin Soaring Society (Bakersfield, CA) is once again holding a Bent Wing Contest on April 19, 2008 at our new flying site south of Bakersfield, CA. Five rounds of precision duration will be flown with 25pt landing tapes. Prizes will be awarded for 1st thru 4th place ($50, $25, $15, and $10) Entry fees will be $15.00 for pre-entry or $20 for entry at the field. Please email me for a copy of our entry form with directions to the new flying site. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Lighter Winch Line
I tried lighter winch line on my winch last Saturday. When we had a line brake there was so much backlash that the line tried to destroy my winch brake. There isn't anyway I would use light winch line during a two day contest. Pilots need to adjust to winch line strength that is currently used in contests. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Servo question
I have two 94091Z servos for spoilers on a RES ship. After a short period of time one stopped working. After I removed it from the wing it appeared that the servo overheated and melted the housing, it had shrunk in one area. I replaced it with another 94091Z and it has worked for several months without any failures. Hey guys, Quick question for those of you servo experts. I fly solely Airtronics equip - servos, radios, receivers... I don't pay attention to any other manufacturers products. My Stalker utilizes a 6 servo wing. 761's are good for the flaps, but for the 4 ailerons, 761's are overkill. I can use them, and they'll fit, but I don't want to carry the extra weight. Airtronics has a 94091Z Super Microlite Servo. The torque ratings are fine for my purpose. Does anyone have experience with these? Centering? Gear train? Etc??? What other servo from any other manufacturer in this size and weight might you guys recommend and why? For reference: Weight: 0.32 ounces Size:0.91 x 0.44 x 0.87 Torque (6V): 23 In oz. Speed 60deg (6V): 0.10 http://www.airtronics.net/specs/atxservospecs.pdf Thanks and Happy New Year to you all!!! D Darylperkins.com LLC. 1600 McCulloch Blvd. 5B Lake Havasu City, AZ 86403 www.darylperkins.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Solenoids
The Cole Hersee solenoids that had failures are the 24059 and 24037. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Solenoids
The failures were on 2 different winches. All winches are Tim McCann winches, all have Cole Hersee solenoids. The only difference is one winch has a Ford 6V motor, the other has an Injoy 6V motor (not the new ones). We run with 12v batteries. We have replaced the solenoids with the same Cole Hersee part number. All have worked. When you are launching a full house Unlimited sailplane you would lug the motor down so we know this is not the case. I'm not knocking Cole Hersee solenoids, before these 2 incidences we have not had a single failure. George wrote: The Cole Hersee solenoids that had failures are the 24059 and 24037. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca George, Are all the failures on the same winch? Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: ***SPAMTAGPTD: [RCSE] Solenoids
No but in the future I'll be sure it's done. Do you know if that was done? George wrote: The Cole Hersee solenoids that had failures are the 24059 and 24037. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Solenoid Failure
Our club has 3 winches and I have 2. All have double Cole Hersee solenoids. All the failures have occurred in the last 4 that we have purchased in the last year. So far all the replacement solenoids have functioned properly. I'm wondering if there is a quality control problem. I'm surprised at that many failures over that short period of time. Something ain't right somewhere. I've never seen a failure of a cole hersee solonoid with years of service on my winch. I'm sure you have already, but I would check all the wiring and connections real carefully. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Solenoid Failure
In less then year I have experienced the failure of 3 winch solenoids. They are Cole Hersee solenoids. The first failure was with brand new ones. On the first day of use both solenoids failed at essentially the same time, they both stayed closed. A cutoff switch saved the sailplane. After the failure I installed Cal Posthuma's Solenoid LEDs. The second failure was last Saturday, it was only the second day the solenoids were used. One of the solenoids stayed open. Cal's solenoid setup's buzzer sounded and the LED for that solenoid stayed on. We jerry rigged a bypass for the bad solenoid and were able to fly. I am a firm believer of Cal's solenoid setup. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Slope and Thermal flying near Champaign-Urbana IL?
Title: Slope and Thermal flying near Champaign-Urbana IL? I may be visiting the Champaign-Urbana area. Are there any decent slopes within an hours drive? Also, are there thermal groups/clubs in that area? TIA. George Voss
[RCSE] 2M planes for sale
Title: 2M planes for sale Don't wait until 3 weeks before the Nats to pick up an excellent flying 2M plane. Buy them now and have time to trim them to your satisfaction before the Nats! The first is an excellent condition Super V 2M. Includes 6 JR servos, 341's for the tail and I'm told 341's for the ailerons and 351MG servos for the flaps. I will only pull the nice looking tape covers off of the wing if it's a show stopper. The only thing that keeps this plane from being like new is a couple of repaired cracks on the bottom of the V-tail. The wings were made by Fred Sage and are in excellent condition. The fuse is also in excellent condition and it has a molded in nose skeg. I was told the plane weighs in right at 40 ounces and can be ballasted by changing the aluminum wing rod included with a steel one that the new owner can supply. $425 + shipping Next is a combination plane. The wings are double taper Super V wings again made by Fred Sage. The fuse is an NSP Laser 2M fuse and a set of built-up stabs. The wings have Hitec HS80 size servos in them (I'm not sure whether they are 80's, 81 or 85's) and the flap servos have metal gears. The servos aren't permanently installed and the wiring needs to be completed. The fuse is brand new, never touched and the stabs are built-up and covered in Monokote. There is some building obviously needed to complete this plane. $375 + shipping Next is one of my favorite 2M planes, the Saturn 2M. This is a wood over foam plane covered with Ultracote. This plane is in great condition considering they haven't been built for over 10 years. No servos are included. These planes were the hot ticket in the 80' and early 90's. The wingrod is a piece of aluminum tubing 3/4 in diameter! This plane will take a hard winch launch without hesitation. $150 + shipping Finally, I have a Falcon 600. The wings are in good condition but the fuse has had several repairs. No radio is included. This would make a great little slope plane or an intro into full house planes. It's too heavy for serious contest work, but for fun or slope, it's great. $150. I'll get some photos NLT this weekend.
[RCSE] JR 10x for sale
Title: JR 10x for sale Ive got a good condition JR 10X for sale or trade. Im asking $575 for it w/o module or Ill take a 9303 and $250 in trade. The radio works perfectly and has normal signs of use, but nothing major cosmetically wrong with it. gv
[RCSE] Connector Link
Title: Connector Link I had a link that had PNs for generic connectors but the link doesnt work anymore. I know we got the parts from Digi Key but I dont know what the PNs are. Does someone have the correct PN for male and female generic plugs? TIA George Voss 1403 Lincolnshire Rd OKC OK 73159
[RCSE] Winch Solenoids
Our club had a fly fly/annual picnic yesterday. We had installed dual solenoids on our winches and one of the winches failed with almost disastrous results. Both solenoids shorted out at the same time. The only thing that saved us was our cutoff switch. I always thought the odds of both solenoids failing at the time was very high, it's not, this was the first time we used the winch. We used Cole Hersee 24059 solenoids. I communicated with Tim McCann and will replace the solenoids with the Cole Hersee 24037 solenoids he recommends. Tim says that the 24059s are rated at 84 amps while the 24037 is rated at 750 amps. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno Soaring Society Fresno, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Own a Multiplex Radio?
Jim, I am also a Hitec/Multiplex dealer, and I have good pricing and service :-) George At 03:28 PM 10/19/2006 -0500, Jim Deck wrote: Any Multiplex radio owners, take note. Hobby Horse in Madison, Wisconsin can supply your needs - even stuff for the Cockpit radios. And they do it fast!! HiTec/Multiplex referred me to them. Jim Deck Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #8443
The ODR class designed by Paul Naton and Charlie Richardson, using the Fun 1 et al. series of planes is really a lot of fun. There are several planes that can be purchased for those who dont like to scratch build in both EPP and crunchy variety. Id strongly recommend using those rules for your ODR class. gv From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:02 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #8443 Brent, We are thinking of two classes, one for wings, other for conventional planes. We are looking at guys settling on a one design down the road, but not too fussy about plane specs in the beginning, It always gets down to the pilot anyhow. As mentioned, we have a member with a cnc machine who just knocked out 5 of them.We hope to have a caravan to Wilson for the 07 event. I also have an I-26 and a leFish. Who knows which will be fastest? We have been getting 25- 30 mph winds fairly regularly in last several weeks! 12-18 is more the norm. For light wind maybe we will go to DHL stuff. Just got a spud launcher to knock planes down from TALL trees near the rotor. My Foameron is stuck about 150 feet up in one of them. As it stands we get 8-10 guys our for a combat day without even trying. We even get Jim Carleton away from his retailstore to fly! I have been to Dayton meets where the draw was about the same, and that was for sanctioned events!! The key has been to not make it too formal sounding as we run our fun fly contests. Bill
[RCSE] TNT Schedule?
Title: TNT Schedule? What time does DLG start Friday morning? gv
[RCSE] Peter Goldsmith
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RE: [RCSE] DVDeeeeeeee!!! Update
I'm the lucky reviewer for many of Paul's DVD's and I can honestly say, this is his best as far as getting information to the builder goes. My review should be available on line at LiftZone.com in the next 3 weeks. Get the DVD, you'll learn something new, I guarantee it! And that's from a modeler of nearly 40 years. gv -Original Message- From: Jack Strother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:24 PM To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] DVD!!! Update Folks, I think it was Monday afternoon or Tuesday Morning, this last, when I called Paul Naton, Thanked Him for his generous Donation to the LSF World Soaring Masters Contest Held this Last weekend. Paul Has supported the LSF and many clubs around the country for years, with many kind donations, of his fine products. I ordered up my Free DvD, ( the F3 Build Dvd ),and of course paid for the Shipping and Handling. The Package came Wednesday, and I poped in in the player before Karen got Home. What, a Nice Video, well worth the buckage he is asking for. I got thru most of it, before the wife walked in, then she started watching as well.. Its about 2 Hours +/-, full of great tips for building a nice plane. This Dvd as well as many of the other products that Paul sells is worth the effort and the money All you guys who won the DVD certificates, might want to take a look at this production... I learned a few tidbits that I will incorporate into my next build, and a few to refirb, my current quiver. Just thought you outta know !! Thanks a Bunch !! Capn Jack -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Winch Parts
Title: Winch Parts This looks like a good start for someone wanting to build a winch. Even if you didnt get the motor, the spool w/brake and line guide arm are worth $100 and he MAY ship those. A good FLS motor will run you $50-100 depending on the type of wind and location you live in. http://cgi.ebay.com/RC-Sailplane-Winch-Parts_W0QQitemZ120035553234QQihZ002QQcategoryZ2563QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[RCSE] Good Condition Jaro Mueller Escape For Sale
Title: Good Condition Jaro Mueller Escape For Sale Up for grabs is a good condition Jaro Mueller Escape. It's got the 6 servo wing but it's currently set up for 4 servos with Volz servos in the wings. The V-tail is actuated by 2 HS85's. The plane has some repairs on the wings and fuse. The wing repairs were/are not structural. All repairs make the plane plenty strong but they aren't faired in very well. This plane would make a good entry into the molded category or as a good back up plane or slope racer. $600 without servos $780 with servos.
RE: [RCSE] Wing Building Techniques: Foam Laminated vs. Built up Pro's and Cons?
IMHO, Vacuum bagging would be the way to go. You can cut and prep the cores one day and bag the second day. There is probably as much work in a foam wing as there is in a built up wing, but it should come out more accurately (accurately is said with some trepidation, see UICU results on airfoil testing). You dont need to paint the mylar, just wax them and they are ready to bag. Color if desired can be handled with colored cloth. gv From: Jay Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:18 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Wing Building Techniques: Foam Laminated vs Built up Pro's and Cons? Gang, I know the usual answer is it depends but which is the better build method? Here are the considerations... 1. Time (I want to build as quick as possible) 2. Accuracy of the build. I can cut foam wings and I can cut ribs by hand. I can also outsource these functions to have the performed by computers. 3. Durability. Which will generally take longer to wear out? 4. Easy of building. I have the bags, pumps, epoxy, ca, balsa etc... to build either. 5. Prototype? Which is the prefered method to prototype ships. This would mean really quick, almost disposeable building so that a basic feel of the plane can be gained. I can see covering a foam wing with tape or building a ribbed wing with fewer ribs and full balsa sheeting. 6. Any other considerations you may have. This will be my first official building season, and I plan on building several 60 inch planes from DLG, to mini hotliners. I purposely didn't ask about spars as I think the same spar can be used in either construction method. Thanks. Jay
RE: [RCSE] World Soaring Masters: Finals are FINAL
Ben, Thanks for taking the time to inform those of us that are 'home bound' this weekend. Looking at the scores and considering the talented flyers in the top 10, the scores seem very unusual. The 10th place flyers score is only 67% of the winners score. This is a very low percentage in my opinion. Even the 5th place finishers score is seems low at ~84% of the winner's score especially considering they are flying MOM. There is over 6 1/2 minutes worth of points separating the first and second place winner. Don't take these comments as darts to the finishers, they are not. Personally, I think the Soaring Masters is a great idea and is flown utilizing a great format. Thanks to all of the sponsors for their support and to all of the modelers who were able to come to Muncie, fly their best and put RC soaring on the map as a Major Modeling Venue. As for the purse, it is a great idea and I'm sure the pilots appreciate a cash return. However, the money returned in no way can cover what most of us have invested in this hobby (can I get an up in here from the Icon flyers? :-)) I'd gather Mike Smith will have spent upwards of $1500 for the trip to Muncie from SoCal, not counting the investment in planes, support equipment etc. Again, Congrats to all who were able to attend, Ben Wilson for keeping the rest of us informed from round-to-round and to rest of the 78 pilots who were there for the top 10 to beat. If it wasn't for them, it really wouldn't be much of a championship. I'd like to see a 2M event similar to the Masters. I know there is a love/hate for 2M planes among our group. A very good Midwest pilot once told me he flew a 2M only for a year. He said if you can fly a 2M against an unlimited plane and win consistently, you'll do better when flying your unlimited plane...he would know as he finished in the top 20 of the Masters. George Voss -Original Message- From: Ben Wilson Finals are FINAL 10. Jolly - 4582 9. Burnoski - 4853 8. Daryl Perkins - 4968 7. M. Reagan - 5164 6. M. Lachowski - 5193 5. Skip Miller - 5694 ($250) 4. Ben Clerx - 5790 ($500) 3. Cody Remington (Junior) - 6118 ($750) 2. Arend Borst 6397 ($1250) 1. Mike Smith 6793 ($2500) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Epoxy odors
I'm no chemical expert, but I'm pretty sure the catalyst is acidic and that's probably what you smell. All epoxies will have some odor to them. I would recommend doing it in the garage or workshop next time to keep the smell out of the house. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:16 AM To: rc Soaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] Epoxy odors I haven't done any building in a while and am I am installing the radio in a new ship. I had to mix up a tiny batch of generic 30 minute epoxy that the local hobby shop sells so I could install the servo tray. You could smell that tiny bit of epoxy throughout my two story house. The smell wasn't overwhelming but you could still smell it. Is there an odorless epoxy on the market I can use for servo mounts and other similar applications/ I'm not talking about glassing wings or building a fuse, just simple installation jobs where a small amount of epoxy is needed. Thanks, S Gibson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Epoxy Odors
Like I said, I'm no chemist. Thanks for straightening all of out Jim. Now back to our regularly scheduled program. gv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:08 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Epoxy Odors Sorry to disagree with you George, but you're wrong. Almost all epoxy systems consist of two parts. One is the epoxy resin, the clear, gooey, essentially odorless component. This piece contains epoxide linkages at each end of each moledule which are just waiting for something to interact with them. The other part, the catalyst, is a diamine, which is a compound with a reactive functional group at each end of each molecule. This is the component that stinks, and will turn yellow with age. Since it is a diamine, it will interact with water (you can wash the catalyst container, and yourself with soap and water, unlike the resin). The diamine is also a sensitizer to both the skin and lungs, and the reason some people develop allergic reactions to epoxy systems. Here is a little test you can do yourself. Take a few drops of the catalyst and place it in a few mL of water. It will disolve. If you try the same thing with the epoxy resin, it will just sit there. The resin requires an organic solvent (like isopropyl alcohol or acetone) to disolve, while the catalyst has both water soluble and organic soluble regions. The strong odor emanating from the epoxy system that started this thread suggests that the diamine catalyst is old, or has broken down somewhat. This tells me that the cured epoxy matrix that will result will not be as strong as if the components were fresh, since the chain lengths of the polymer (yes, that is what epoxy is) will be more varied than if the fresh components had polymerized. Hope this helps. Jim Thomas, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, 1979 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted: Robbe Vampir
Title: Wanted: Robbe Vampir Im looking for a Robbe Vampir flying wing. I doubt Ill find a new one in the box so used is fine. Please contact me direct. Also, I know RacersEdge had one for sale but he wasnt willing to ship it, so please dont email me telling me he had one for sale. J Im leaving for Soar Utah on Sunday so I will be away from the computer, but please email anyway and Ill look at it when I return. Thanks. George Voss
RE: [RCSE] US F3B Team Selections
Where can we buy F3B USA merchandise like shirts? I'll be supporting the team again this year. gv -Original Message- From: Jeff Steifel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:16 PM To: rcse Subject: [RCSE] US F3B Team Selections This week at the AMA site will be the US F3B Team Selections. I would like to thank in advance all volunteers that make this possible. If you can volunteer and haven't talked to Jack Iafret or Marc Gellart there's still time. For those that haven't seen F3B, you are missing something. The TD part you know... 10minutes (always) 1 meter /per 5 point landing without skegs. The Distance is the most fun part in my opinion. Distance is like racing and yahting. Know when to go slow and when to go fast. When its fast well its loads of fun Speed, is just that... FAST... 4 legs with ballast and fast turns. Smooth, short, and fast wins. Times for the 600 meters can range from 14-23 seconds... It all depends on the air. So if you can make it you are sure to see some cool stuff going on. I am hoping that some of you get hooked enough to want to try it sometime... We need more fliers if we are too compete on a world class level. If you can help, and watch even better. If you can't volunteer, I hope you can make it too watch... Unlike TD this IS a spectator sport since distance and speed have something to watch... Learning to FLY F3B WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER PILOT... See ya all there... And thanks again volunteers. -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stuff for sale
Title: Stuff for sale Laser 2M fuse w/Super V 2M wings, includes 4 servos. $450 Super V 2M kit. Includes Spyder foam cores, carbon and FG, $300 Alpha 4 Charger, works perfectly, $300 Mini Destiny, Like new, flown one outing. Yellow and blue. $150 (new is $200) I currently have 3 JR digitals in it, Ill take $150 and trade servos. Fun One, decent condition, flys great, with 3 servos, $150 48 CSD BD5 Slope plane, brand new RTF with Airtronics precision servos, $450 43 RTF PSS Zero, glass fuse, foam core wings sheeted w/balsa and glassed, JR and Hitec servos, $250 NIB Icon, yellow over green, $1900 NIB Escape F3J Lite, $1200 F3B-F3F Cobra, well used but structurally sound, digital servos are available for additional $. $600. JR Venture Heli, OS 32, 5 servos, $400 JR Venture Heli, OS 46, 4 servos and Gyro, $500 JR Vigor, all top quality stuff including JR digital servos, OS motor, Curtis pipe etc. Built by the guy who builds Curtis Youngbloods helis. $1300. Over $3000 invested JR Vigor Electric, all top quality stuff including JR digital servos. Built by a factory pilot, $1600 includes batteries. Over $3500 invested. Virtually new, one outing Cermark Pitts w/ JR Evolution 26 motor, JR servos, over $1600 invested, $1000 More as I think of it! First come first served. Ill have most of this with me at Soar Utah
RE: [RCSE] Stuff for sale
Title: Stuff for sale 2 Windsong's. Both have had fuse repairs but the wings are in good to very good condition. The fuses can be made to look like new with some filler and sanding. Id guess about 3 hours worth of work not counting drying times. I also have an extra set of wings that were carbon/FG bagged. $250 each + shipping. $150 for the carbon/FG wings. They are in decent condition. From: George Voss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:16 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Stuff for sale Laser 2M fuse w/Super V 2M wings, includes 4 servos. $450 Super V 2M kit. Includes Spyder foam cores, carbon and FG, $300 Alpha 4 Charger, works perfectly, $300 Mini Destiny, Like new, flown one outing. Yellow and blue. $150 (new is $200) I currently have 3 JR digitals in it, Ill take $150 and trade servos. Fun One, decent condition, flys great, with 3 servos, $150 48 CSD BD5 Slope plane, brand new RTF with Airtronics precision servos, $450 43 RTF PSS Zero, glass fuse, foam core wings sheeted w/balsa and glassed, JR and Hitec servos, $250 NIB Icon, yellow over green, $1900 NIB Escape F3J Lite, $1200 F3B-F3F Cobra, well used but structurally sound, digital servos are available for additional $. $600. JR Venture Heli, OS 32, 5 servos, $400 JR Venture Heli, OS 46, 4 servos and Gyro, $500 JR Vigor, all top quality stuff including JR digital servos, OS motor, Curtis pipe etc. Built by the guy who builds Curtis Youngbloods helis. $1300. Over $3000 invested JR Vigor Electric, all top quality stuff including JR digital servos. Built by a factory pilot, $1600 includes batteries. Over $3500 invested. Virtually new, one outing Cermark Pitts w/ JR Evolution 26 motor, JR servos, over $1600 invested, $1000 More as I think of it! First come first served. Ill have most of this with me at Soar Utah
Re: [RCSE] Great Ideas
I've heard of contests where the ruling was if the canopy came loose and was still attached by a string or other device, you had to be willing to launch the sailplane that way or take a zero for the landing. I then Goop the LED display to the inside of the canopy. A side benefit is that technically, even if the canopy departs the aircraft on launch/landing it remains tethered, thus allowing you to score on that round. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Great Ideas
I think they were interpreting the rules to mean safe to fly even if the part wasn't detached from sailplane. A great example of someone interpreting the rules :^) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] MM Glidertech??????
Last time I saw him he was kicking butt and taking names. With a stinking 2 meter -l BTW Merrill, Congrats on winning the TOSS BUBW (RES) with your Grand Illusion. Some amazing flying done last Sunday. Merrill beat up a crowd of 3M Ava/Topaz/Dannys with a 10 year old 2M balsa airplane. He described it as a $60.00 airplane. He certainly flew it well.George Gillburg Bakersfield, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Planes for Sale
Title: Planes for Sale The Laser 3M, the V-Ultra and the Escape are spoken for pending payment. I still have the Cobra for sale. It would be a great back up F3B or F3F plane. It could be made to look like new with about 2 hours of work IMO. Super V 2M kit. Comes with spyder foam cores and the cloth to bag the wings and tail. Fuse and plans are included. $300 Super V wings w/Laser 2M fuse. I can build a set of stabs with it for you. Wings were made by Fred Sage. $450. NIB Escape, Yellow tops and Red bottoms. Finished weight will be around 72 ounces. $1100
Re: [RCSE] F3J Championships
> From: George Gillburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I recall Joe flew an Icon for part of the contest and > the winner was flying a Supra for most of the contest... > = > David Hobby, the winner, was flying a Pike Perfect. Joe flew his regular > Icon and his Icon Lite. OK, I was confusing the winner from Oz with the Canadian who led most of the preliminary rounds who I think was flying a Supra. So, what else was flown and by who? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] F3J Championships
Has anyone seen a list of who flew what at the recent championships? I recall Joe flew an Icon for part of the contest and the winner was flying a Supra for most of the contest if not all but who else flew what? How did the Pike Perfects do versus the Shadows and Visions etc. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Smiley or similar antenna for 9303
I've got them. $28 shipped -Original Message- From: Stan Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:44 PM To: Soaring Digest Subject: [RCSE] Smiley or similiar antenna for 9303 Looking for source of this type of antenna for my 9303 TIA Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Unlimited size planes for sale
Title: Unlimited size planes for sale I have a number of planes for sale that will be available after Soar Utah. There is no way I can get them out until after that event. NSP Laser 3M. Excellent condition, RTF with quality Airtronics 141 servos. $450 F3X Cobra. Some repaired damage on the wing and fuse, but a new fuse is included. Wing damage was cosmetic only. This would make a great slope racer or practice F3B plane. $500, Fischer V-Ultra. Some repaired damage on the wing and fuse. Wing damage was cosmetic only. This would make a great slope racer or practice F3B plane. $500, Escape w/electric fuse. Some repaired damage on one wing, cosmetic only. This can easily be set up for a thermal plane with some simple mods to the nose. $500 The Cobra, V-Ultra and the Escape all sold for $1000-1200 new. Ive got photos of the damaged and repaired areas. Several of the planes currently have servos in them but the prices DO NOT include servos. The V-Ultra has Futaba MGs, the Cobra has MPX digital, and I dont remember what are in the Escape. I think they are Volz. As usual, first come, first served. gv
RE: [RCSE] Skip Miller Injured It was Joe
Title: Skip Miller Injured It says Joe Wurts was hurt, not Skip. From: McCleave, Howard R (SN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:14 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Skip Miller Injured The web site for tracking the F3J Worlds had a note about Skip being injured. Anyone know more details? Thanks, Randy McCleave http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=20pol=c55
Re: [RCSE] Re: 2M Rambles
From: David Register <[EMAIL PROTECTED] /> Good luck with the girlfriends. In 1963, Jimmy Soul had a #1 hit with some interesting advice along those lines. = Which said: If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty women your wife Go for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you Just don't let your wife know that's your philosophy if you want to go on living!George Gillburg Bakersfield, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2-Meters thoughts
A prominent Midwest sailplane flyer contested a 2M only for a full year. He flew it in 2M (obviously) and in unlimited. His words to me were something like this: If you can win with a 2M, you can wing with anything, (meaning and unlimited plane since he doesn't fly DLG.) I'd have to agree with him. 2M's just don't have the performance an unlimited plane has and if you can fly a 2M to its maximum, an unlimited plane is just that much easier. The DLG guys will say the same thing. If you can thermal out with a 60 model, anything larger is easier. Of course that's not true in all cases, but I'm sure I can get an amen from those who have flown DLG when I say if you can thermal out from a 50' launch, a 600' launch is like a 'gimme'. I can't remember the gentlemen's last name (his first name is Lee) and he had kept record of his flights for a year. The 2M times were statistically lower overall than the unlimited times. The chart was published in RCSD many years ago. As far as contests go, I think most people will build a plane to compete in the events that are scheduled. For example, I attend MWSC every year and I didn't have a foamy warbird for that particular class. I'm building one now for next years event. If we have 2M events as part of a 2-3 day contest, people will bring 2M and fly in the event instead of sitting around while everyone else is flying. Maybe we don't want to spend as much on a 2M as an unlimited plane, but good flying 2M can certainly be had for less than $500, not counting the radio and many are less than $250 used. I for one would like to see 2M continue. Unfortunately it now has to compete with DLG, RES and Nostalgia. It's up to contest directors to keep 2M going. George Voss RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] After the 2006 NATS - 2 Meter Comments
I've got a NIB Super V 2M Kit I'd consider selling. It comes with spyder foam cores, glass fuse, carbon and FG to bag everything. This is/was the hottest 2M of its time. I'd consider bagging the wing and tail for you but I can't guarantee how long it would take me to get it done. $350 for the kit or $550 bagged RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Receivers Found
Title: Receivers Found Thanks to everyone who responded. I found the receivers I was looking for. Ive kept everyones response in case I need more in the future. Thanks again. gv
RE: [RCSE] wing tape
Ive got it. 25 and 50, $13.50 and $20. Shipping is $6 From: Lee Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 2:20 PM To: soaring mail page Subject: [RCSE] wing tape Does anyone still make the heavy clear aileron tape like that came on the old Airtronics kits??? LeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
[RCSE] Receivers wanted
Title: Receivers wanted Im looking for a couple of Airtronics old style plug receivers, with 5-8 channels. If you have some for cheap, please let me know ASAP. gv
[RCSE] RX request upgrade
Title: RX request upgrade I need FM receivers. Thanks. gv
[RCSE] Numbered drill bit question
All pins that I know of are .0625 or 1/16 diameter. You can get a .059 drill bit. I think it's a #47. This will give you .005 undersize. This works perfect if you have carbon on FG control horns. They are tough to get started the first time, but by moving the clevis up and down it will loosen the hole fit a little. If you spend 3 minutes doing this, you'll have an almost perfect fit. Once it starts getting loose, which takes about a year of flying, you can put the thin CA on like the others mentioned. The control horns I sell have a .059 hole in them. gv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:59 PM To: rc Soaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question I want to minimize slop in my control surfaces. What numbered drill bit, or bits, do I need for drilling out control horns and servo arms for Dubro type quick links? Thanks, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] 2006 NATS Handlaunch Photos/Scores
And just one out of the list below... Looks like the Okie done good! Way to go Dave Register. gv -Original Message- From: Ben Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:16 AM To: SALglider@yahoogroups.com; LASS Soaring List; soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] 2006 NATS Handlaunch Photos/Scores *Live* from the AMA site! Some photos of the winners and a snapshot of the final scores after 8 rounds of tough air: http://louisvillesoaring.org/gallery/20060721nats Not a bad day for Team Polecat ;) 1. Mike Smith 2. Bruce Davidson 3. Shane Spickler 4. Doug Pike 5. Doug Harnisch The weather produced some really tough air, which combined with Ed Franz' difficult tasks (two 3's and a 4, two 4's and a 2, 3x3) made for some serious shake-ups in the scores all day long. An excellent contest, despite my sad placing :) BTW - If you want to use the Wireless Internet access that now covers the *entire* AMA site, ask them at NATS HQ (the little house). They'll give you the password after you sign a three-page form! F3B, Aerotow and XC today! -- ben wilson louisville area soaring society louisvillesoaring.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Brrrr that's cold
Due to the extreme heat we suffer, its imperative we keep our radio systems covered as the heat will play havoc with the radio equipment. Sometimes we use fabric, or a simple shade. For serious temperatures though we need to cover the entire fuselage so the control rods dont expand. This is a typical example of how we keep the control system cool in the blazing heat. Subject: [RCSE] B that's cold http://www.lomcovak.cz/tmp/zima/baudis1.jpg
RE: [RCSE] MidSouth Scores have been posted!
It's good to see an outdated Icon was able to finish at least mid-pack. They just put Karl Miller at the top of the list because he's a nice guy. He probably paid his timer and landing judge big bucks to get those scores. :-) Or then again, maybe the Icon still has what it takes to win contests for its pilots. Way to go Karl. gv -Original Message- From: Ben Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:28 AM To: Soaring; LASS Soaring List Subject: [RCSE] MidSouth Scores have been posted! http://louisvillesoaring.org/content/view/105/43/ Ed Wilson's writing up a full report which will be on the website soon. Much thanks to all who pitched in after our prez and MidSouth CD Ed Wilson pulled up sick on Thursday evening (of all the days!) We're a small club, but we had a lot of people come out of the woodwork to take up the slack, and we hope everyone enjoyed the field, the flying and the fun. See ya' at the NATS! PS - If you want me to post the ship you were flying any of the days, let me know and I'll post them on the scores pages. Also - if you have any photos, you may send them to me directly. Thanks! -- ben wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thelocust.org/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted Falcon 880
Title: Wanted Falcon 880 Im looking for a flyable Falcon 880. Ill take it with or w/o servos, but I need it built. Im not looking for a show stopper, just an unbroken sailplane. I missed owning one of these when they were THE plane to have so Id like to get one now and do some fun flying with it. gv
[RCSE] Falcon 880 found!
Title: Falcon 880 found! Thanks to Nick Trubov in the thriving state of medical work for coming up with exactly what I was looking for. gv
RE: [RCSE] Anyone know where to get DS168 gear sets??
Try Dons Hobbies in Salina KS. gv From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:39 PM To: Soaring Subject: [RCSE] Anyone know where to get DS168 gear sets?? Need two sets. Horizon says they won't have them 'til September? Any ideas? Thanks, Richard
[RCSE] Stork 2 on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stork-2-Pro-World-Class-F3J-Sailplane-Glider_W0QQitemZ11 277643QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2563QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I thought someone would like to know about this plane. I have on interest in this plane, but it looks like it'll sell fairly cheap. It's been flown quite a bit and has some minor repairs, but it would make a great first moldy or a backup ship for someone. gv attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [RCSE] Stork 2 on Ebay
The previous email should say I have NO interest in this plane. I just found it while searching for sailplanes. gv _ From: George Voss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:41 PM To: 'RCSE' Subject: [RCSE] Stork 2 on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Stork-2-Pro-World-Class-F3J-Sailplane-Glider_W0QQitemZ11 277643QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2563QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I thought someone would like to know about this plane. I have on interest in this plane, but it looks like it'll sell fairly cheap. It's been flown quite a bit and has some minor repairs, but it would make a great first moldy or a backup ship for someone. gv attachment: winmail.dat
[RCSE] More Motor and ESC info
Title: More Motor and ESC info I contacted Kontronics and they sent me a copy of the instructions. Apparently I havent programmed the ESC yet. Im downloading the file now and will program it and let everyone know what happens. gv
[RCSE] Lovesong request update
Title: Lovesong request update Ive had a few questions as to exactly what Im looking for so here we go: Im looking for one RTF Lovesong in good-excellent condition. Minus RX or battery is fine. I will also consider one or two Windsong or Lovesong Kits. I hope thats clearer. gv
RE: [RCSE] More info on the electric motor/esc issue THE SOLUTION!!!!
With the help of Mike Franz at Kontronics, I figured out the problem. Mike sent me an email with the instructions and after reading them, I still had nothing...until I realized that this unit requires a separate battery, i.e. it didn't have a BEC circuit! Long story short, I connected the ESC/motor to the RX, plugged in a motor battery, plugged in an RX battery and the beeps started happening! Now everything is fine. I had disconnected the external BEC for the initial tests and the motor is fine. I then hooked up the BEC again and everything works. I'm a happy camper now. Thanks everyone for your comments. gv -Original Message- From: Douglas, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:00 PM To: RCSE Subject: RE: [RCSE] More info on the electric motor/esc issue I just wonder about running a BEC on a high amp setup,... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] More Items for sale
Title: More Items for sale Super V 100 wings only, no fuse or tail. The wings are new but there is a couple of delams on one wing. They can easily be fixed. $200 NIB GP Siren Hot Liner, $90 NIB Hobby Lobby Jerry electric sailplane, $125 2 Hobby Lobby REVO micro helis, $150 for both Cermark Pitts, red and white. New Horizon GT26 engine w/Tatone Pitts muffler, all JR precision servos. This plane has been test flown only. $800 More stuff as I find it. Shipping is extra. George Voss 1403 Lincolnshire Rd OKC OK 73159
RE: [RCSE] Problems with GE Silicone II
There is a silicone made specifically for electrical components. Unfortunately, it's hard to find and expensive for a small amount. RS used to carry it but no longer does. If the silicone has an acidic smell, i.e. it smells like vinegar, it will cause corrosion in electrical applications. I'd guess that's what happened to your servo. The electrical grade silicone doesn't smell like vinegar. Like Jeff mentions, it's going to be tough to remove it from the surface. I recommend epoxy-ing the servos to a piece of balsa and then epoxy the balsa to the fuselage. That way you have a release film. Some people wrap the servo in masking tape and then epoxy the servo in place. I've done that too in certain situations. gv -Original Message- From: Jeff Steifel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:18 PM To: Robert Samuels Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Problems with GE Silicone II I think it is a big mistake using silicone... Robert Samuels wrote: I installed two JR 281 servos in a HL pod made of hybrid Kevlar/carbon cloth using GE Silicone II... Then the servo quit working. No response whatsoever. I don't know if the servo failure is related to anything... Robert Samuels ... St. Louis RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted: Windsong or Lovesong Kit
Title: Wanted: Windsong or Lovesong Kit Does anyone have a kit lying around they are interested in selling? If so, please contact me ASAP. gv
[RCSE] Electric motor and speed control help
Title: Electric motor and speed control help I purchased a used Aveox 12LMR with a Kontronics 3SL 70-6-18 ESC pre-wired from someone on this list. To that I've added a Medusa battery eliminator. I was told the motor and esc have only been used a couple of times and I feel confident the units are serviceable. I'm using 10 1700mah Nicads with an Airtronic RD8000 and 777 receiver. I've plugged the BEC into the battery slot, the ESC plug into the throttle channel. The servos work but I get nothing out of the motor or ESC. The motor has 5 pin female plug coming out of it which I'm pretty sure is for sensors, but this is a sensorless control so nothing is hooked up to it. Any ideas why my throttle doesn't work? Please contact me direct as I need to get this unit, or another going pretty quickly. Thanks. gv
[RCSE] More info on the electric motor/esc issue
Title: More info on the electric motor/esc issue Ive run all the endpoints to the max, Ive put the trim at its lowest position. If I use a 4.8v battery with a servo in the throttle channel, it works fine. Ive emailed Mike at Kontronics for a copy of the instructions so maybe that will help. Im still looking for responses, thanks. gv
Re: [RCSE] NiCd's or NiMH??
I need to replace some NiCd flight packs. These will be for full house ships as well as a few RES ships. What are the latest recommendations/trade-offs between going with NiCd's or NiMH's? Thanks!! Here is the web site where I bought the last pack I've purchased. They have some interesting things to say about choosing a battery pack. Their packs are well made and reasonably priced.http://www.hangtimes.com/nobsbatteries.htmlGeorge Gillburg Bakersfield, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Vision programming
At 04:11 PM 6/19/2006, Lincoln Ross wrote: I set up my Mantis with an old Vision, one which, as I recall, I had to send in to get the ATRCS update to 8 models and some other nice features. BTW, anyone have a file for those old programming sheets, in case I wipe something out? A lot of typing to make up a new one, and the old ones are all beat up. Thanks Lincoln Ross I've got a version of the programming sheet done as a Quattro Pro spreadsheet. Its rather old, tho, being in .wq2 format. I'll print out a copy and take it to work where I can scan it into a .pdf file that I can email you. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Airtronics RX's for sale
Title: Airtronics RX's for sale 5 old style connector Airtronics RXs. Mostly 7-channel and a couple of 8-channel. $30 each + 2 shipping.
RE: [RCSE] Re: Looking for fastener ...plea for parts
Harley, that's part of the problem, it's aluminum, not steel. gv -Original Message- From: Harley Michaelis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:34 AM To: Barry Andersen; Jim Porter; Barry Kennedy; Tom Copp; Don Peters Cc: Stan Myers; soaring Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Looking for fastner ...plea for parts Good point about the fasteners. As to losing things in the grass, it works well to keep a small magnet in the field box to easily find such ferrous based items. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Bubble Dancer
My hard drive crashed and burned and I lost the name and website of the person who sales the tailboom for the Bubble Dancer. Tailboom.com still says they are indefinitely out of stock. Can someone point me in the right direction? George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Bubble Dancer
Thanks for the replies, I have the info I needed. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, Ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Receivers for sale
Title: Receivers for sale 4 Airtronics 92765 7-channel receivers w/old style connectors. $42 each shipped. 3 Airtronics 92785 8-channel receivers w/old style connectors. $42 each shipped. First come, first served.
[RCSE] Airtronics Receivers For sale
Title: Airtronics Receivers For sale 4 Airtronics 92765 7-channel receivers w/old style connectors. $42 each shipped. 3 Airtronics 92785 8-channel receivers w/old style connectors. $42 each shipped. First come, first served.
[RCSE] NIB 4M Graupner Grob 103 For Sale
Title: NIB 4M Graupner Grob 103 For Sale Ive got a brand new in box Graupner 4M Grob 103. Its typical German quality with sheeted foam core wings, FG fuse. $550 + shipping. Its a huge box so itll probably have to go via Greyhound bus. Email for further details.
[RCSE] Sailaire parts for sale
Title: Sailaire parts for sale I have a set of laser cut wing ribs and a wing plan set, and also a set of stabs with bell crank for $40 + shipping. First come, first served of course. I hope you had a great holiday weekend. gv
RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations
Personally I'd recommend the Easy Star since it's electric, he'll get more flying time in per session. I'd recommend making the rudder 1/2-1 wider since the rudder is pretty small. I taught my brother-in-law to fly with one. gv -Original Message- From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:23 PM To: RCSE Yahoo Subject: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations I know this has been discussed before, but wanted to get your current thinking. A co-worker hears me talking about soaring all the time and is asking about a sailplane for his son. Years ago I would have suggested a Highlander, but they are no more and there don't seem to be any really credible (i.e., decent performing) foamies. If you want a nice molded TD plane, I can talk all day, but when it comes to this kind of plane, I'm at a loss. I'm thinking about recommending the Multiplex Easy Glider, which is inexpensive and readily available from Tower Hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?I=LXKHS7P=7 Any ideas appreciated. .. Jim Laurel Co-founder Twango Inc. mob 425.985.4849 ofc 425.883.1638 http://www.twango.com/profile.aspx?twangoid=jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Slightly off topic pseudo airplane stuff
Title: Slightly off topic pseudo airplane stuff For sale: 97 Honda ST1100 w/9K original miles. This would be a neat bike to hook a trailer too and carry your sailplanes to the flying field. $5000+ worth of extras included. $6500 And if you have a plane that flies away and you need to chase it, I have a very good condition Honda CRF150F dirt bike for sale for $1400. Ive got some high end sailplanes for sale too, like a NIB Icon and an F3J Escape. Email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] 2M Saturn
Title: 2M Saturn Someone advertised a Saturn 2M a few weeks ago. Please contact me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED].net. Ill take it at the asking price. gv
RE: [RCSE] Supra ? Mine weighs 61.75 oz prior to balance. How does this compare with yours?
This proves several things. Any or all of the following could apply. First is Gordy's rule of weights: Everyone else's plane weighs less than yours no matter how light yours is. If you build a Supra RTF at 40 ounces, somebody will have a lighter one! Then: Stan is a lousy builder. Next: Maurice is a great builder. Next: Maurice used lighter equipment than Stan. Next: Maurice has the CG at the back of the wing ala DP. Next: Stan has the CG at the front of the wing. Next: Stan's scale weighs heavy. Next: Maurice's scale weighs light. Next: Stan's plane has more carbon, paint or epoxy in it so it's slightly heavier. Next: I've heard 61-65 ounces depending on servo choice. Let's face it; if you use sub micros at 6 grams or you use micro digitals at nearly an ounce a piece, you'll end up with different weights. Next: 99% of us couldn't tell the difference between the way a 61 ounce plane and a 65 ounce plane flies. 4 ounces out of 60 is only .07%. That's nothing for the majority of us. Most of us can't tell the difference in how a plane flies unless we change the loading by 2 ounces per square foot, which equates to about 20 ounces. On a light plane like an AVA, we might notice a difference in the way the plane flies at 1 ounce per square foot increased loading, or an additional 10 ounces. Next: None of this really matters at 1000' and 20 minutes! Just my humble opinion of course. Personally, I think you've done fine Stan! gv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #31 is 61 even ready to fly. Maurice And how much weight did you have to put in to balance? Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Performance Tuning DVD review will be up within days!
Title: Performance Tuning DVD review will be up within days! I just turned in my review of Paul Natons Performance Tuning DVD to LiftZone. It should be out in the next day or so. I can highly recommend this DVD to anyone in the soaring world. Paul discusses what it takes to make a sailplane fly correctly by setting it up correctly. For $25 its a deal. gv
RE: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver
A food saver was used in an article on Ezone. Do a search for Foodsaver or vacuum bagging and you should find it. gv -Original Message- From: Scott and Jennifer Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:50 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver Greetings: I am about to apply skins to my Alcyone 3M, and I want to reinforce the wings with carbon fiber. What's better: carbon tow or carbon mat? Will the thickness of the carbon fiber be a problem under the balsa skins? How wide a strip should I apply? What's the best way to apply the carbon for the best adherence to both the core and the skin? Should I apply epoxy to the core where the carbon will be, lay in the carbon and then apply the skins? Should I apply the carbon to the skins first and then to the cores? I have considered applying a wide strip of carbon between the leading edge of the core the trailing edge of the spar (on both upper and lower surfaces), all along the main wing panel from the root to the junction with the tip panels. Is that too much CF? I'd like to make the wings as strong as I can to avoid folding them on launch. Has anyone tried vacuum bagging small parts, like stabs, in a Foodsaver? It occurs to me that the Foodsaver might work well, provided it can produce enough pressure. Cheers! Scott Martin Spokane, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Adjustable Tow Hooks Available again
Title: Adjustable Tow Hooks Available again After a long delay, adjustable tow hooks and standard tow hooks are available again. Adjustable hooks are 3 for $28 shipped or $10 each. Standard tow hooks are $4 each or 3 for $10 + shipping. Soaringspecialties.com
RE: [RCSE] ADVICE NEEDED: Lightest electric 2m with landing control?
Polecat Aeros Wind Dancer. From: Jay Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:18 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] ADVICE NEEDED: Lightest electric 2m with landing control? Ok, I am looking for the litest weight glider with landing control in the two meter class. I want to build it, from plans, I want it to be simple and quick. Power will be 3s1p 2100, at around 400 watts (probably a mega direct drive), I want vertical performance to 300 feet. The wing must be multiple pieces. I would like AUW to be 30oz or less, and should be able to penetrate wind. Any thoughts... Jay
[RCSE] Airtronics Receivers/ Electric sailplanes and an oldie for sale
Title: Airtronics Receivers/ Electric sailplanes and an oldie for sale I have 8 old style connector Airtronics receivers for sale. I have the following: 3 ea 92785 FM $50 ea 4 ea 92765 FM $50 ea 1 ea 92985 PCM $ 65 ea Id like $250 shipped for all of them. 2 ea 777Z receivers, $50 each Sailaire laser cut ribs and wing plan. Ill include a built horizontal tail with it. $50 + shipping NIB Siren Electric sailplane, $115 + shipping. These sell for $150 new New but not in box Jerry Electric sailplane, $150 + shipping. These sell for $210 new Please remember, Im slow at shipping, but you will get your item! George Voss 1403 Lincolnshire Rd OKC OK 73159 405 620-7170C
[RCSE] Receivers for sale update 1
Title: Receivers for sale update 1 The PCM rx is sold. Ill take $200 for the remaining 7 receivers. Thats less than $30 a receiver! gv
[RCSE] Items for sale
Title: Items for sale NIB Icon, $1900 RTF Icon, approx. 12 flights. $2300 New but not in box F3J Light Escape, 6 servos wing, $1200 4 New Airtronics 777 receivers w/o crystal, $50 Shipping is extra
RE: [RCSE] loaded question...2M
Title: RE: [RCSE] loaded question...2M I like the bagging idea only because it then becomes your sailplane and no one else's. There is a pride that goes with building/bagging your own, especially in the 2M size. If you have some small issues with the bagging like pin holes or whatever, it's not that big deal. gv -Original Message- From: Douglas, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:20 AM Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] loaded question...2M OK, Im suddenly in the market for a 2M ship for the 2 contests a year it will see action I can not bring myself to spend more that about 200 bucks, so that limits me. What are your thoughts on Ed Whyte's Cara? DJA's updated 2M Chrysalis? The 2M Bird? I throw the 'Bird in there after going to Muncie yesterday - that seemed to be the club ship. Downside to that is that I'd really rather build the 100 version, don't really want multiples. Any other choices? Are Ducks much out of that range? Plan B is bagging wings for an Allegro fuse, seems more like a longer term plan. Thanks, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Need Airtronics 141 long servo arm
Dubro makes long arms to fit Airtronics, JR, Hitec and MPX servos. They are on a tree and come with about 8 different arms if I remember correctly. gv -Original Message- From: notify@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cal Posthuma Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:30 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Need Airtronics 141 long servo arm I need a arm at least 3/4 inch from center to end. Anyone know where I can get one. Cal Posthuma RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Looking for the pdf file that Sherman Knight wrote on the 9303
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1459 -Original Message- From: Stan Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:15 PM To: Soaring Digest Subject: [RCSE] Looking for the pdf file that Sherman Knight wrote on the 9303 TIA Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 3110 Motor
I just learned the meaning of the saying that if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any at all. I mounted the 3110 motor in my winch frame and ran it so I could sand the shaft like you would in a lathe. I had to sand the entire length of the shaft. The end by the brushes was harder as I had to remove the armature and be very careful. I finally got it all done. When I tried to mount the Real Balls to the motor, the bolts will not go thru the slots in the heat sink. Now I have to go buy new bolts. I'm stubborn enough to keep at it until it's done. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, California Graduierte, schule der harten klopfen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Initial CG on a scratch ship...
Title: Initial CG on a scratch ship... You need to find the MAC or Mean Aerodynamic Chord, which is the average chord. Assuming a straight leading edge and a tapered TE, if its a straight taper , measure the root, add the tip and divide by 2. That is the average chord. So, make a mark 8 back from the LE and thats the average chord. 30% of 8 is 2.4, just like you calculated. Id start there. If the TE has more than one taper, you will need to take into that into account. George Voss From: Douglas, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:39 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Initial CG on a scratch ship... Just trying to get a rough idea where to start here, what formula you might use to come up with a starting CG. Picture a 200 inch wing, root chord about 11 inches, tip about 5, straight leading edge, tapering TE. Modern airfoil, HQ 2.5, 12 - 10 percent thick. My thought was to go mid span, take some percentage of the chord there, then mark the root that far back - example: 30% of 8 becomes 2.4 inches - mark the root at 2.4 inches from the leading edge. 2 questions - how far off is that logic, how far off is 30%? I'm towing this ship for the first flight, so I'd like to be pretty close, erring to the nose heavy side. Thanks! Brent
RE: [RCSE] Robbe Infinity 2 charger repair
I opened the charger today, removed the plastic dust cover and disassembled the button. There is a metal circular disk under the cover and its concave. The click you hear is the disk compressing and returning to its neutral position. I had to reshape the disk since Id bent a portion of the edge. Once reshaped, I sprayed some contact cleaner/lube from RS ($10), reassembled the button and it works fine. Instead of removing the dust cover on the remaining buttons I simple sprayed a tiny amount of cleaner/lube in each button. All is well now. Thanks RCSE! From: Winch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:09 AM To: George Voss Subject: RE: [RCSE] Robbe Infinity 2 charger repair George, My buttons went south a few years ago and I tried to find someone without any luck. I also tried to find replacement buttons with the same results. With nothing to lose, I opened up the contacts,wiped them with contact cleaner and glued the covers back on again. Voila! It's been working for two years since then. I'd hate to lose it as it seems to work much better than my Triton. Phil in Vancouver -Original Message- From: George Voss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 19, 2006 4:33 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Robbe Infinity 2 charger repair Does anyone know who repairs Robbe Infinity chargers these days? The buttons are acting up again. gv
[RCSE] Robbe Infinity 2 charger repair
Does anyone know who repairs Robbe Infinity chargers these days? The buttons are acting up again. gv
[RCSE] 3110 Motor
Thanks everyone for your suggestions on how to get my motor to fit my Real Balls. I have a Tim McCann winch kit. The motor shaft will not fit the drum. George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, California Graduierte, schule der harten klopfen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 3110 Motor
About a year ago I bought a 3110 starter motor for my winch. When I tried to install my Real Balls I found that the shaft is too big. Can you turn the shaft down or sand it down to fit? George MeyersWD6EQS Fresno, California Graduierte, schule der harten klopfen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
