[RCSE] Style
I'm with you Karlton. After look at a photo spread from the Chicago Motor Show, I am more worried than ever when American's talk about "style". Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Karlton Spindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:47 AM To: Matt Lydon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James V. Bacus Subject: Re: [RCSE] Next Radio? True BMW, Porsche, MBZ all weird Euro designs ;) Some say the Asian radios look like porcupines... Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Flying Apartment House
Don't knock the "Flying Apartment House". Who else has designed a three deck aircraft. Boeing and Aibus have yet to move beyond two, and even then, Boeing's effort was nothing more than a mezzanine floor. You guys just do not recognise beauty when you see it :-) Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Bill Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 12:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Paul Ferguson Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3I And look where the Aussies went from there... the Transavia Airtruk: http://www.dv-flymuseum.dk/DK/DKFly/airtruk_dk.html [Big Grin] --Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] RC Phone Home - Was 170mph
Alway happy to be corrected! Must try and remember where I read that. Sounded like a cool idea at the time! Paul Ferguson -Original Message- From: Dennis Hipperson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 7:46 AM To: Paul Ferguson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring Subject: Re: [RCSE] RC Phone Home - Was 170mph Gentlemen, If you wish to read the real facts go to http://www.aerosonde.com/ Sorry Paul you are not correct re the satellite phone, during the Atlantic crossing the a/c was autonomous after the R/C take off and once out of range of VHF radio. A new Aerosonde height record was set Thursday this week of 20,000 ft over Hamilton Victoria, using the new fuel injected engine. And as someone else said the Pacific crossing is on the list for this year. Dennis Hipperson - Original Message - From: "Paul Ferguson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: [RCSE] RC Phone Home - Was 170mph Hi I would have to disagree. Although it has an autopilot, the data is transfered to and from the aircraft via satellite phone. Is this not technically RC? By your definition, you could argue that a gyro controlling the tail rotor of a RC helicopter is not technically RC. Takes a new slant on "ET phone home". "RC phone home"??? Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia BTW It is an Australian aircraft that is based on the wing of a F3B glider! -Original Message- From: Brett Jaffee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] 170 MPH? It wasn't r/c except for the launch and the landing parts though. The actual crossing was totally autonomous. BTW, the same company that did the Atlantic crossing has a new aircraft which will be attempting to cross the Pacific. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Sports F3B/F3J
Hi When we run F3B locally, we encourage people to fly anything, even floaters. A Stepp 3 (3 metre floater) can do a 50 second speed run. My record with a Stepp Upp+ was 34 seconds. My previous best was 36 second, so I improved. Now I have a Tragi 700. You set your own benchmarks, and compete against similar models. Winning isn't everything - it is all about competing and having fun. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Alex Janssen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Sports F3B/F3J - RCSE in Europe Hello, I'm closer to finishing my Bird of Time with spoilers actuated by wing servo's (thanks again for all your building tips. Should have it ready by Easter. Yesterday I had my first experience with winch launches and F3B flying with an, I think, english design called Cobra. Also, browsing through the german "Aufwind" magazine, I read a test about EMC-Vega's Harmony, which was described as a sports, allround F3B/F3J glider suitable for sports pilots as well as competition pilots. Is there such thing as a "sports" F3B/F3J glider? Does anyone have an experience with the EMC-Vega Harmony? Any other glider which could be considered a "sports" F3B/F3J glider? Also, does anybody know about a forum like RCSE in Europe (Germany)? TIA, Alex Janssen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RC Phone Home - Was 170mph
Hi I would have to disagree. Although it has an autopilot, the data is transfered to and from the aircraft via satellite phone. Is this not technically RC? By your definition, you could argue that a gyro controlling the tail rotor of a RC helicopter is not technically RC. Takes a new slant on "ET phone home". "RC phone home"??? Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia BTW It is an Australian aircraft that is based on the wing of a F3B glider! -Original Message- From: Brett Jaffee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] 170 MPH? It wasn't r/c except for the launch and the landing parts though. The actual crossing was totally autonomous. BTW, the same company that did the Atlantic crossing has a new aircraft which will be attempting to cross the Pacific. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Scot SOARING
I always thought the scots had "foot in mouth" disease :-) Just joking guys, I know it is a serious matter. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Ron Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tony Beckett; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Scot SOARING Please note that ALL slope and thermal soaring in Scotland is cancelled until further notice. Competitive and otherwise. Yeah you have guessed it, foot and mouth restrictions. As soon as poss we will let you know off any changes. Where possible we will reschedule. -- Ron Russell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Mantis Question??
Chris NOW you are crossing the line :-) Shall we start telling the world all of the NZ sheep jokes? Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Chris Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:44 AM To: mark browning; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] Mantis Question?? From: mark browning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hell, they ride sheep don't they? MB That's the Australians. Ciao - Chris ** Chris Kaiser Auckland, NEW ZEALAND http://rcmodels.co.nz/clubs/asfcnz From: "Chris Kaiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] Mantis Question?? Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:22:13 +1300 From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 02:49 PM 3/1/2001, Chris Kaiser wrote: From: Charles Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] If you fly a Mantis, Do yo uhave to drive a AMC Gremlin Or a Pacer??? Probably not - almost any US car would qualify :-) ROFL, a Mantis will never rest in the back of my C5 Vette. What kind of cars do they make in New Zealand? Woolly white ones :-) Actually we don't make any cars here - we import mainly Japanese and Australian models. Ciao - Chris ** Chris Kaiser Auckland, NEW ZEALAND http://rcmodels.co.nz/clubs/asfcnz RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] pictures of ugly
Hi All With all this talk on the Mantis, I just had to take a look. I found the photos on the Charles River site. Ugly? - Maybe, not too bad Functional? - Yes Does it fly well? - Everyone says so How can anyone criticise an aircraft as being ugly when every other PPL flies a Cessna 150 or 172! That's why I decided to learn to fly on a Piper Warrior :-) If it feels good, do it. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: David J. Schat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] pictures of ugly DON'T look at them!!! you will turn to stone. Never look at a Mantis directly, use a mirror as Sinbad did with Medusa or you will turn to stone. -Spud Boy The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] incidence/pivot pins
On my Sapphire, I replaced the front pivot pin with music wire and perminantly glued it in place so that the taiplane tubes pivot on the wire. This stops the tailplane slop, and takes all the shock loads. I then kept the rear carbon pin to save weight because it does not take any significant flight loads. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] incidence/pivot pins I just went through this thought process on a recent plane that came with carbon tail pins. Though light, they won't take the abuse that steel will. The stabilator is probably the most important flight control and a concession made to the weight gods is probably a good idea here. It has happened that in the heat of the battle, a plane was smacked in for a million point landing, and it wasn't until the subsequent launch that the broken stab pin was discovered. Big splat ensues. Another advantage to metal pins is that they can be kinked, which makes stab retention possible without glue or set screws. Anyway, I did have the right diameter music wire for the pivot pin to replace the carbon, but not for the rear drive pin. I found some laying around that was too thin, so I had to bring it up to spec by sheathing it in a brass tube. I thought "Hmmm, one could probably sheath carbon in a brass tube, save a little weight and gain a little durability. About the kinky stab retention, though, I don't know..." Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Re:Southwest Classic scores
Wurts - 17th Perkins - 90th! As a viewer from afar, I have to ask what caused these low results (for a couple of soaring Gods). Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RES Rules - was [RCSE] Nostalgia Help??
Gee.. did I stir up a hornets nest! I find that I cannot mix it with the big boys, but I still have a go. 22nd out of 79 at our LSF Tournamnet is my best so far. However, I fly in open class with a Pike Plus and soon a Tragi 700 in an attempt to be on equal footings with the experts. If I win it is a bonus, but it is not why I compete. However, I recognise that my views on winning are not shared by my fellow competitors, but it does annoy them when I beat them! Open Class is what it says. Not many rules concerning model design except for general FAI model limitations (remember that we are talking Australia here). I, and every other competitor in Open Class recongise that at any time a quantum leap of model design could make all our models obsolete. In Australia (generalising statement coming) MOST flyers of the RES Class do so because they are sick of the technology race of Open Class that they either cannot afford, or do not wish to be involved with. When I fly RES Class, I fly a Stepp 3 that is similar to what most of the flyers want to fly. Sure, I could take my Tragi, lock the ailerons, put in a bit more dihedral, and blow them all to the weeds on launch height alone. But by doing so I would destroy the class locally leaving the supporters of RES Class wondering about forming another class to suit their style of flying. We find that most flyers of RES Class are there to have fun and compete. Winning is a secondary concern. Every sport has the same problem. There is always someone who thinks that they can gain an advantage by being an amater lawyer and exploiting a loophole in a set of rules to gain an advantage other than by improving their natural talent. We all know what is right and wrong. Lets do it! I understand that RES Class in America is different in that it has evolved into a technology race. Perhapes the solution is a RES One Design Contest. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RES Rules - was [RCSE] Nostalgia Help?? In a message dated 01/29/2001 7:29:49 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure, anyone can build a model with a plywood D-box, awesome carbon spars etc. etc and blow everyone to the weed with mega launches, but why would you bother? You only ruin it for those who want to comply with the spirit of the rules, and just prove that: 1. You are a flyer who wants to cheat their way to the top. 2. You can't mix it with the big boys. Go and fly in Open class where you belong :-) Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia P.S. This is aimed at nobody in particular, but many people in general. Damn! Now that I've got a RES plane with foam cores and carbon skins (which just so happens to be allowed by my reading of the rules) I come to find out that it is against the "spirit" of the rules. It seems to me that somebody has taken a pry bar to the rules and popped in this "spirit," leaving a lump that is indiscernible to me, in effect, bending the rules themselves. Now, about this broad cheater stripe that I've been painted with, does everybody in open class have one? It just does not come out in the wash, so I'm hoping it'll just blend in :~) At least in open class, since I can't mix it up with the big boys, I can provide a context of mediocrity in which others can excel. :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Temperature
Ric In Australia, you are taught to fly a glider circuit starting mid downwind at 800', base turn at 600', final turn at 400'. However, power circuit height is 1000'. There is no doubt that you can turn onto downwind at lower than 1000' to fly a tighter circuit (on your way to circuit height), but remember that I am still ab initio. Base turn is at 1000', final turn at 500-600'. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:35 PM To: Paul Ferguson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Temperature Hi Guys I had another lession (circuits) for my full-scale pilots licence this morning while it was only about 35 degrees C. I have to say that the performance of the Piper Warrior (PA28-161) really sucked. I was glad that we didn't have a third person on board! As I like to get to the 1000' circuit height before I turn onto downwind, the circuits were rather large! Paul, why so high before you turn downwind I would think you would fly the pattern at 800'. Turn crosswins at 400 and end up at 800' opposite the "numbers". I live in Marietta, Ga. and used to own a Cessna 140. Here in the summer, with two big people, would zap the performance out of anything! Paul Ferguson Adelaide Australia Current temperature - 41C RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Temperature
Hi Guys Not much flying going on here at the moment. Since Xmas every day has been between about 35 and 42 degrees C. I have to say that I would swap a bit of minus temperatures with anyone at the moment. Some of the northern towns in South Australia have had every day over 40C. I had another lession (circuits) for my full-scale pilots licence this morning while it was only about 35 degrees C. I have to say that the performance of the Piper Warrior (PA28-161) really sucked. I was glad that we didn't have a third person on board! As I like to get to the 1000' circuit height before I turn onto downwind, the circuits were rather large! (Those who know me can refrain from commenting that I am the equivalent of two people anyway :-) Paul Ferguson Adelaide Australia Current temperature - 41C RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Model building tools - Paul's Top 10
In order of importance 1. Small Scalpel - No 11 Blade 2. Sanding Disk (homemade - 8") 3. Pins 4. Zona Saw 5. Various homemade sanding blocks 6. Large Scalpel - No 23 Blade 7. Razor Plane 8. Dremel (sometimes with flex shaft) 9. Scroll Saw 10. Drill Press Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Real Sailpanes??????
I have a good theory.. 40 size ARF Trainers = Toys 2 Metre ARF Gliders = Toys You play with them until you decide what arm of the hobby you like. Then you graduate to "models" which you use to advance your chosen art. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Charles Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:33 AM To: Soaring listserver Subject: [RCSE] Real Sailpanes?? David, David,, David!!! What do you mean by "Real Sailplanes" what do you think we fly? "Toys?" Damn, you full scale pilots sure do get full of yourselves once you "graduate" from models ;- ). David, We fly models Not toys! I have been flying REAL Sailplanes for 13 years. I do not fly them at this time. I just started flying the models about 2 years agoI actually have devoted more time for flying MODEL gliders.. To be honest with you , The real ones are much easier to fly Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Contests and LSF Levels
We are not saying that we expect it to be easy. By all means make it harder. I am sure that the Level 5's would like another challenge (just ask Mal Pring who is doing it all again)! It can be made harder without the need for contests. Perhapes we need to leave the existing levels alone and add parallel "non-contest" levels with more challenging tasks. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Jim Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Contests and LSF Levels Gents, To all those that either don't see the point of having competition goals as part of LSF, or don't think they should have to compete and SUCCEED in competition as part of the LSF program, I have something to say. Don't get involved in LSF in the first place if you aren't willing to play by the same set of rules as the thousands of others that are willing to challenge themselves by those rules. Don't expect it to be easy, because it isn't, never was, and never will be. If you want to aspire to be as good as you can be, then learn from the experience. If you are afraid to fail, this program probably isn't for you, you have nothing to learn because you are already the best you ever will be. Don't expect the majority of fliers testing themselves against the LSF levels to sympathize with your need to succeed the easy way. Just go find a sheet of LSF decals and put the level number you think you rate on your plane (then go to one of the mail order universities and get yourself the degree you think you deserve, but won't work for). Jim Thomas LSF 4629, Level V #68 PhD Oregon State University 1979 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Retreivers - Was RE: [RCSE] Re: Towing accident and urban legend
Hi All A while ago at our club one of our members (namely Mike O'Reilly) used a RC Volkwaggon Bug powered by a Zenoah 23 (with nobbly tyres)to pull back the winch lines on a Fun-Fly day. All we needed was one person at the turn-arounds hooking the lines onto the back of the car. The driver of the car had fun, and so did we especially when the car did 6 end over end rolls when it hit a pot-hole on the way down to the turn-arounds at full throttle! It definitely was better than walking 200 metres to get the chute. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 3:49 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Re: Towing accident and urban legend Whether this happened or didn't, it has certainly promoted discussion and urged all of us to look at how we go about what we do. I've been on this forum for about 3 yrs and I have noticed in that time the shift towards stronger lighter moulded models and the subsequent real decrease in price, meaning, more and more of us "average flyers" have very good, very strong models. How many however are still using the same launch system they had when they launched floaters? Technology has given us much better toys, fairly cheap but strong mono that really stores a lot of energy, winches that will pull a tractor out of a bog and on this exchange there has been a lot of info about how to get the most out of each. However there hasn't been too much about turnarounds and field safety. At our club after a couple of incidents we now ask for a restraint to be attached to any turnaround at our field and the turnaround is checked every time the chute is retrieved. ( We don't use mechanised retrievers) Some good ideas and some navel gazing have come out of this episode that can be applied to winch, handtow, bungee, catapult etc. This is why I still subscribe to RCSE. Oh well back to sorting through the chaff. -- Brian Ford Brisbane "The Moreton Region Sports Soaring Association Web Site"! Queenslandhttp://www.bit.net.au/~mrssa Australia and "The Large PSS Site"! AUS 55723 http://www.users.bigpond.com/bananaman RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Zoom Launches - Was: RE: 3-Position Switch
Adam I think that you have (almost) hit the nail on the head. The zoom DOES come from dive speed, but it is the angle of the dive that most flyers get wrong. I learnt a lot watching Nic Wright when he toured Australia a few years ago. He would build up enormous tension on the line (either by a conventional launch or by circle tow) and then would perform a brief shallow dive (1.5 seconds@20 degrees?) to convert the tension to speed and then ping. There are too many flyers in Australia who love to try and wrap the parachute around their tailplanes in ridiculously steep pre-ping dives. It is just not necessary. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Adam Till [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio? Oh, I fully realize what you were talking about - I was disagreeing with the statement that you need to dive excessively. What's the point in bleeding off altitude for airspeed? That isn't what a zoom is about. Sure you need a mild dive to perform this, but you don't need a steep one. The added effect from the zoom is gained mainly from tensioning the line...not from dive speed. That's why the wings need to be that strong on zoomable airplanes, the winch is almost pulling directly downwards with up to 200lb of line tension. Adam RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Zoom Launches - Was: RE: 3-Position Switch
Bill Thought that one might gain a query or two. It is something that I love watching, but do not have the guts to try myself! Basically You launch to about 45 degrees in a reasonable wind and build up tension, then you turn (with rudder) and dive at the ground building up more tension before turning again (with rudder) to tuck the model under and climb again. The action is like a stunt kite doing a loop. The process can be repeated over and over, building up tension without winding the line in on the winch at all. I expect this is as clear as mud. Any other "experts" like to try? Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: William E. Johns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Zoom Launches - Was: RE: 3-Position Switch Paul Ferguson wrote: I learnt a lot watching Nic Wright when he toured Australia a few years ago. He would build up enormous tension on the line (either by a conventional launch or by circle tow) What's a circle tow? Bill -- Where are we going? Why are we all in this handbasket?? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?
The positioning of the 3-position switch on all cheaper commercial radios is lousy. At least with JR/Graupner MC-18/20/24s and Multiplex 3030/4000s you can position any switch where is feels most comfortable. Better still (if you can get used to flying with fingers AND thumbs - which I cannot) you can mount the switch on the end of the stick. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Matt Lydon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 12:52 PM To: Adam Till; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio? Yes, you don't move it until near the top, but why would you want to take your hand off the stick at ANY point in the launch, if you didn't have toI have an 8u, and didn't feel comfortable doing it, but I CAN if I have to...but I'd rather not have to. I presume that the guys in competition would feel so even more, as to a great extent, the best launches (and landings) win the contests. Matt - Original Message - From: "Adam Till" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:52 PM Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio? Okay, I guess. But why would you even need to touch that switch until near the top of the launch (launch camber to relexed)? Fooling with camber on the acceleration phase of the launch seems like asking for trouble to me. I can see why launch mode for HLG's is on the left (for right-handed people), spring-loaded at that, but it seems to be a non-issue for assisted launches. Adam From: "Matt Lydon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Adam Till" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:44:53 -0500 So that you don't have to take your hand off the stick to operate the switch while launching Matt - Original Message - From: "Adam Till" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio? From: "Jones, Philip" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..but look for the glider version of possible because it has the 3 position 'start - normal - speed' camber switch on the left. Why do people prefer to have this switch on the left? The CROW (is this an acronymn or not?) switch is set permanantly for switch A (on left), so why not keep the other primary function on the right? I'm just used to having it on the right, but I'm curious if I'm missing something here. Adam _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Pirat Glider
Hi Has anyone got access to a full-size Pirat glider with a unique colour scheme? I am building a 1/4 scale model and would like to paint it in something other than white. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Making a living at modeling
Hi All There is no doubt that you can run a very successful cottage industry making kits. The problem is finding the ongoing market to sustain a full time job. I am sure that the guys at DJ Aerotech have a few words to say on that one. I find that it is better to see the cottage industry as a means of subsidising an expensive hobby. I have everything that I could possibly want to fly, but have never taken a cent out of my family budget. The problem is that often you are spending too much of your time making kits to ever get out flying. It is defintely a trade-off. The jump to a full-time business would be a big one, and one not to be taken lightly. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Darwin N Barrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Making a living at modeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely !! You can do it on only 2 percent. You buy for $1.00, add 2% and sell it for $20.00. Ask any dealer, they're all millionaires. :-) NOT "fuzzy math" I would submit that it can be done. In the mid 80's I made model fuel commercially (AVGAS brand name). I was making good money part time and could have easily made it 100K+ with a little more effort. I was however, in the middle of my law enforcement career and didn't want to give it up. I sold the business and the new owner quickly screwed it up. This would be a little different now because I got out just before UPS changed the shipping regulations. I'm sure Nitro is more expensive now. It was $1500 a barrel then. This IS the rare exception I believe. Darwin N. Barrie Scottsdale AZ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] JR Servos, what is the difference
I understand that the 331 is a higher torque replacement for the 341. The 341s are old stock. Please correct me if I am wrong. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Jim Cubbage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:47 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [RCSE] JR Servos, what is the difference Hello, I want to buy servos for a new ship due next week. I have narrowed it down to JR 341s and JR 331s. I am going to go with the 331s on the flaps and get the 351MG gear set. Comes out about the same, just more torque for the 331s. I have noticed that the 331s and the 341s are almost exactly the same except for the motor. What does the 5 ferrite motor in the 341 give you that the 3 ferrite motor in the 331 doesn't? The 331 is stronger and that is good for flaps, but what advantage does the 341 have over the 331? They seem about the same speed. Obviously I do not need the torque of the 331 for a vtail so I am wondering if the 341 is a bit more accurate when it centers, or is it more precise? I mean it costs more than the 331 so what do you get for the extra $$? Jim Cubbage RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Alternative airplane bags
Brett Get one of those metal look foam filled sunshades that you put inside your cars windscreen to keep out the sun, fold it it half and run a sewing machine up the side and across one end. Cost almost nothing, and works well. As you have such big cars in America, you should have no problem with size:-) We have to ensure that we get hold of larger size sun-shades because some of the ones that they import into Australia are designed for those weenie Korean cars and can be a tight fit on the wing cord of an average 3m moulded model. My last set of wing bags cost $15 AUD. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 3:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Alternative airplane bags I'd like to get some sort of bag to carry my 120" span plane, but mainly for convenience, as opposed to all out protection. Because of this, I'm a bit too cheap to shell out $160 for a custom airplane bag. I was wondering if there are any alternatives to the more expensive, purpose built airplane bags? Also, has anyone tried using a snowboard bag? I've been looking at them on the net, and it seems like they would fit the bill, in that they are padded, often have multiple pockets for stuff, and are generally over 60" long (big enuf for a 2 piece open-class wing). Some even have multiple pockets for multiple boards (or wings). The cool thing is that they seem to run about half the price of a similarly sized custom airplane bag. I figure it shouldn't be too hard to adapt one of these to use for a big glider. What'dya think? Brett Brett Jaffee: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brett's Slope and Power Home Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee OnTheWay Quake 2 server utility: http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page: http://www.bayarea.net/~nathan/extra300/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Variometers
Hi Does anyone know what transmitting variometers are available on the market, and what frequencies they transmit on? Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Dog Stepped On HL
Hi We fly at two sites. One is Victoria Park within 1km of the CBD of Adelaide. It is a public area, and dogs have every right to be there, as we do. All we can do is chase them away. At our own field (that we own) SSL Park at Milang, it is a different story. Anyone who did not keep their dog under total control, and allowed it to cause damage to a glider, would be held liable. However, getting money out of a offender is usually more trouble than it is worth. Paul Ferguson Adelaide, Australia -Original Message- From: Steven Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:16 PM To: Sean Porter Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dog Stepped On HL At 08:08 AM 9/13/00 -0700, Sean Porter wrote: ... Some dude walking his dog was standing nearby. The leash had just enough slack to allow the dog the room to step on my wing. It creased it pretty bad on the bottom. What do you do...get mad, make the guy pay?...dismiss it and fix it? ... opinions. He was not in control of his dog. Make him pay. But in the end will you actually win or just make an enemy? I'm sure it would take some work convincing a judge in small claims court that the defendant owes you $250 for a toy plane that their dog stepped on. Judge may feel you didn't give enough prudent care to your wing. I watch out for that when I fly at the park. Another risk in life. Kinda fun sometimes to see a dog chase it. Forces me to catch it. Also little kids can be dangerous as well. But the risk is worth seeing a child's fascination with my flying "toy" airplane. I get give them a mini lesson in aerodynamics and soaring flight. :-) Steve Meyer http://SOARchicago.com/stmeyer/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] S.O.A.R. Web Page http://SOARchicago.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
