[RCSE] Johnny and Butch

2006-01-23 Thread strotherbj

Johnny,
I will need a set og 59 and 60 JR Xtals for tugging, or is it 58 and 59???
Can you help
CJ
--Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold 


Re: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

2006-01-23 Thread Lee Estingoy



Guys,

I've made a suggestion that we consider putting 
tugs on freq's that end in 0, or are divisible by ten for you engineers. 
Then we keep the gliders off those channels. Makes it a bit easier to deal 
with the bigger events. Really sucks when a tug is conflicted by the 
glider guy.

Alternatively, buy a synthesized setup... and keep 
the tugs on a channel divisible by 10!

If you don't like that idea, please come up with 
another that establishes some generally acceptable tug channels that will be 
easy to explain and fair to all, not whatever your tug happens to be 
on...

Lee Estingoy
Counsel
Castle Creations, Inc.


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  Subject: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch
  
  Johnny,
  I will need a set og 59 and 60 JR Xtals for tugging, or is it 58 and 
  59???
  Can you help
  CJ
  --Jack Strother Granger, IN 
  LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS 
  Gold 


RE: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

2006-01-23 Thread John Diniz
Lee,

For the past Nat's and all the years of the JR AeroTow we've put the Tugs on 59 
and 60. We've had no problems getting planes up in the air with 2 tugs 
operating constantly. For other events I guess it's up to the organizer. 

Hope everyone makes it out to Monticello, Il for this years JR AeroTow, May 
31st through April 4th.

Thanks,
John

-Original Message-
From: Lee Estingoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@Airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

Guys,

I've made a suggestion that we consider putting tugs on freq's that end in 0, 
or are divisible by ten for you engineers.  Then we keep the gliders off those 
channels.  Makes it a bit easier to deal with the bigger events.  Really sucks 
when a tug is conflicted by the glider guy.

Alternatively, buy a synthesized setup... and keep the tugs on a channel 
divisible by 10!

If you don't like that idea, please come up with another that establishes some 
generally acceptable tug channels that will be easy to explain and fair to all, 
not whatever your tug happens to be on...

Lee Estingoy
Counsel
Castle Creations, Inc.
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Re: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

2006-01-23 Thread Johnny Berlin



Lee, We have used this system for as long as I have 
been towing. It works for us.

If we stay with this then everone will know what 
the tug freqs are and there will be no problems. And ( in my opion) we dont need 
more than 2 freqs for the tugs.

Johnny and Butch



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lee 
  Estingoy 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@Airage.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:46 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] Johnny and 
Butch
  
  Guys,
  
  I've made a suggestion that we consider putting 
  tugs on freq's that end in 0, or are divisible by ten for you engineers. 
  Then we keep the gliders off those channels. Makes it a bit easier to 
  deal with the bigger events. Really sucks when a tug is conflicted by 
  the glider guy.
  
  Alternatively, buy a synthesized setup... and 
  keep the tugs on a channel divisible by 10!
  
  If you don't like that idea, please come up with 
  another that establishes some generally acceptable tug channels that will be 
  easy to explain and fair to all, not whatever your tug happens to be 
  on...
  
  Lee Estingoy
  Counsel
  Castle Creations, Inc.
  
  
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From: 
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To: soaring@Airage.com 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:16 
AM
Subject: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

Johnny,
I will need a set og 59 and 60 JR Xtals for tugging, or is it 58 and 
59???
Can you help
CJ
--Jack Strother Granger, IN 
LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS 
Gold 


Re: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

2006-01-23 Thread Ben Diss




Lee- I like that idea. I currently tow on 22, but I'd gladly switch
to 20 if that made everyone's life easier. I think it's a good idea.

-Ben

Lee Estingoy wrote:

  
  
  
  Guys,
  
  I've made a suggestion that we
consider putting tugs on freq's that end in 0, or are divisible by ten
for you engineers. Then we keep the gliders off those channels. Makes
it a bit easier to deal with the bigger events. Really sucks when a
tug is conflicted by the glider guy.
  
  Alternatively, buy a synthesized
setup... and keep the tugs on a channel divisible by 10!
  
  If you don't like that idea, please
come up with another that establishes some generally acceptable tug
channels that will be easy to explain and fair to all, not whatever
your tug happens to be on...
  
  Lee Estingoy
  Counsel
  Castle Creations, Inc.
  
  
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[RCSE] Johnny and Butch


Johnny,
I will need a set og 59 and 60 JR Xtals for tugging, or is it
58 and 59???
Can you help
CJ
--
Jack Strother 
Granger, IN 

LSF 2948 
LSF Level V #117 
LSF Official 1996 - 2004 
CSS Gold 


  





Re: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

2006-01-23 Thread Lee Estingoy



Dammit, you don't even tell us what the "system" is 
that you guys are using for years.

It's the same old in-bred good o'd system that 
keeps things static and ever so slightly dysfunctional in this end of the 
hobby.

Think big picture or outside the box or long 
term. Just because you guys in the Ohio Valley have a system, doesn't mean 
that the guys who may be, heaven forbid, from outside that area even know what 
it is. If there is a national type of rule, like I proposed or something 
similar, then everybody from anywhere in the US will be able to be compliant 
without having to know the secret handshake.

Yes, you do need more than 2 tugs at major 
events.

Just my 2 cents.

Lee

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Johnny Berlin 
  
  To: Lee Estingoy ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@Airage.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 9:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] Johnny and 
Butch
  
  Lee, We have used this system for as long as I 
  have been towing. It works for us.
  
  If we stay with this then everone will know what 
  the tug freqs are and there will be no problems. And ( in my opion) we dont 
  need more than 2 freqs for the tugs.
  
  Johnny and Butch
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lee 
Estingoy 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@Airage.com 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:46 
AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Johnny and 
Butch

Guys,

I've made a suggestion that we consider putting 
tugs on freq's that end in 0, or are divisible by ten for you 
engineers. Then we keep the gliders off those channels. Makes it 
a bit easier to deal with the bigger events. Really sucks when a tug 
is conflicted by the glider guy.

Alternatively, buy a synthesized setup... and 
keep the tugs on a channel divisible by 10!

If you don't like that idea, please come up 
with another that establishes some generally acceptable tug channels that 
will be easy to explain and fair to all, not whatever your tug happens to be 
on...

Lee Estingoy
Counsel
Castle Creations, Inc.


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: soaring@Airage.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:16 
  AM
  Subject: [RCSE] Johnny and 
Butch
  
  Johnny,
  I will need a set og 59 and 60 JR Xtals for tugging, or is it 58 and 
  59???
  Can you help
  CJ
  --Jack Strother Granger, IN 
  LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS 
  Gold 


RE: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

2006-01-23 Thread S Meyer

That sure is a long Aero Tow!  309 days!  :-)

At 09:03 AM 1/23/2006, John Diniz wrote:

Lee,

For the past Nat's and all the years of the JR AeroTow we've put the 
Tugs on 59 and 60. We've had no problems getting planes up in the 
air with 2 tugs operating constantly. For other events I guess it's 
up to the organizer.


Hope everyone makes it out to Monticello, Il for this years JR 
AeroTow, May 31st through April 4th.


Thanks,
John

-Original Message-
From: Lee Estingoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@Airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Johnny and Butch

Guys,

I've made a suggestion that we consider putting tugs on freq's that 
end in 0, or are divisible by ten for you engineers.  Then we keep 
the gliders off those channels.  Makes it a bit easier to deal with 
the bigger events.  Really sucks when a tug is conflicted by the glider guy.


Alternatively, buy a synthesized setup... and keep the tugs on a 
channel divisible by 10!


If you don't like that idea, please come up with another that 
establishes some generally acceptable tug channels that will be easy 
to explain and fair to all, not whatever your tug happens to be on...


Lee Estingoy
Counsel
Castle Creations, Inc.


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[RCSE] Johnny and Butch: now aerotow frequencies

2006-01-23 Thread Barry Andersen
Easy, here's what's up.  Check on the AMA, LSF pdf that outlines the Nationals and the frequency use for that day.  Since F3B is flown at the same time, frequencies were divided between F3B, Scale Aero-tow and winch launched XC. Frequencies had to be allocated to get all these events running at the same time. My memory of last year's JR Aerotow and the smaller Woodcrafters aerotow indicates that two tugs working at the same time did just fine; particularly with Johnny's tows!  Perhaps you've run more than two tugs at the KC aero tow, I've not been there. I'll check to see if it's possible to have more than one entrant on the two tug frequencies, I believe it is.I hope you're able to make the NATS and bring that beautiful Zefir4, one of the finest scratch-built scale projects I've seen (via the KC website; www.kcse.us)In any event, frequency allocations are in place for this year. They weren't randomly cooked up by "guys in the Ohio Valley", but are the result of considered decision making by the LSF contest board.  If you have suggestions for improvement in the future, let LSF board members know for the '07 NATS.I hope this helps to ease your concerns.Barry AndersenRegistrar 06 NATS