Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module
Ed, Forget about a 72MHZ module. Contact Horizon Hobbies or your local hooby shop and get a 2.4 GHZ transmitter module AND a 7000 full range receiver for just $110. I just installed this in one of my radios and my decond Supra fude and it works like a champ! Anker Ed Anderson wrote: Most of my planes are on a Futaba 9C super on channel 40. Seems my Ch 40 module is getting a bit flakey. Anyone got one cheap they want to get rid of? If not, I will probably get the synth module to replace it, but I prefer the single channel modules. They use a lot less power. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: Soaring Soaring@airage.com To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:17 AM Subject: Soaring V1 #11602 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module
I have two 9C Supers. One has a 2.4 GHz Spectrum module in it and 4 receivers. This handles my slope planes primarily. Over time I will migrate all to this. The other is on 72 MHz. I use both. I am not ready to replace the 12 receivers I have now on 72 MHz. I have ch 35 and 55 modules also, but all my planes are on 40, so for the cost of a channel module I can keep them flying till I migrate all to 2.4 over the next couple of years. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module Ed, Forget about a 72MHZ module. Contact Horizon Hobbies or your local hooby shop and get a 2.4 GHZ transmitter module AND a 7000 full range receiver for just $110. I just installed this in one of my radios and my decond Supra fude and it works like a champ! Anker Ed Anderson wrote: Most of my planes are on a Futaba 9C super on channel 40. Seems my Ch 40 module is getting a bit flakey. Anyone got one cheap they want to get rid of? If not, I will probably get the synth module to replace it, but I prefer the single channel modules. They use a lot less power. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: Soaring Soaring@airage.com To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:17 AM Subject: Soaring V1 #11602 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module
All that I have read is that the synth modules use more power than the single channel modules. Perhaps the Futaba Synth is different. Any way, for the cost of one 2.4 GHz receiver, I can keep all my 72 MHz stuff flying on their current channel. That is worth it for now. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module Ed, I forgot to mention that the transmitter will use LES power with the synth module and you won't see any difference with your receiver. Its the servos that drain the receiver battery. Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module
Ed, I forgot to mention that the transmitter will use LES power with the synth module and you won't see any difference with your receiver. Its the servos that drain the receiver battery. Anker Anker Berg-Sonne wrote: Ed, Forget about a 72MHZ module. Contact Horizon Hobbies or your local hooby shop and get a 2.4 GHZ transmitter module AND a 7000 full range receiver for just $110. I just installed this in one of my radios and my decond Supra fude and it works like a champ! Anker Ed Anderson wrote: Most of my planes are on a Futaba 9C super on channel 40. Seems my Ch 40 module is getting a bit flakey. Anyone got one cheap they want to get rid of? If not, I will probably get the synth module to replace it, but I prefer the single channel modules. They use a lot less power. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: Soaring Soaring@airage.com To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:17 AM Subject: Soaring V1 #11602 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module
Ed, Its certainly true for XPS and Spectrum, and its the Spectrum I am recommending, because the deal is so good. What happens is that even though the 2.4GHZ transmits at greater power than 72MHZ, they transmit in packets and between packets the transmitter isn't sending any signal. The net effect is that the total power drain goes down. I use both XPS and Spectrum and I can see it directly on how long my transmitter batteries last. Anker Ed Anderson wrote: All that I have read is that the synth modules use more power than the single channel modules. Perhaps the Futaba Synth is different. Any way, for the cost of one 2.4 GHz receiver, I can keep all my 72 MHz stuff flying on their current channel. That is worth it for now. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module Ed, I forgot to mention that the transmitter will use LES power with the synth module and you won't see any difference with your receiver. Its the servos that drain the receiver battery. Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Migrating
I like Google Groups much better than Yahoo Groups. The web based interface to Yahoo Groups is terrible and the email distribution of the two is comparable. Anker Mark Miller wrote: I like the Yahoo Groups scenario. MVSA uses it for our communication and it works well. Like a mail list that you can wither read in web view or have the mail pushed to your email client. RCSE was great because it was not a forum type list. Forums have their place but mail works best for what RCSE type communication in my opinion. In forums stuff gets scattered all over and you have to browse through the different subjects to find something. BLECH! Thanks to RCSE and Mike. Through it I found all you guys (for better or worse) and it furthered my enjoyment of the hobby. Thanks Mike and MAN Mark Miller Isthmus Models - Original Message From: TJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:59:17 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Migrating *So far there seems to be 3 replacements posted. We'll see which actually pans out.* - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com mailto:soaring@airage.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:15 AM *Subject:* Re: [RCSE] Migrating You mean Joe Wurts won't be able use his Gordy Soar handle any more?? Here's something to consider when migrating to a replacement for RCSE. One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not cutesy-poo nam de plumes. Let's continue that practice in what ever forum we wind up in. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com/ and AOL are generally NOT in text format It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. Find your travel deal *here* http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Looking for a Futaba Ch 40 module
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:49:21AM -0400, Ed Anderson wrote: | All that I have read is that the synth modules use more power than the | single channel modules. Perhaps the Futaba Synth is different. Any way, | for the cost of one 2.4 GHz receiver, I can keep all my 72 MHz stuff flying | on their current channel. That is worth it for now. I actually measured the power consumption a few years ago. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.models.rc.air/msg/5a0063936df977d3 In any event, I'll bet you could find the synthesized module pretty cheap nowadays, as people are going 2.4 GHz. A channel 40 module would be even cheaper, but might be hard to find. Try ebay, rcgroups if RCSE doesn't come through. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] New RCSE
The Google group is a nice addition. I¹ve used Google Reader for my news; it¹s an excellent interface. Very easy to understand. Hope our list doesn¹t get too diluted across the web. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:45:46 -0400 To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] New RCSE I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout. The groups homepage is: http://groups.google.com/group/rcse The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please tell your friends and get the word out. Dennis Hoyle WMSS
RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
Good bye RCSE. Note the URL is http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/ Steve Siebenaler _ From: Debra Cleghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT Hi everyone, We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a better more interactive format at http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelairplan enews.com/group/soaring . This blog site will allow you to continue your RC soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts. We hope you enjoy these added features. Sincerely, Debra Cleghorn Debra Cleghorn Executive editor Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter 203.529.4658 Air Age Media 20 Westport Road Wilton, CT 06897 USA
RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
TOO B ADToo SAD Sorry to see you go.. if I wanted that stuff I would be on RC Groups -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: Steve Siebenaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good bye RCSE. Note the URL is http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/ Steve Siebenaler _ From: Debra Cleghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT Hi everyone, We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a better more interactive format at http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelairplan enews.com/group/soaring . This blog site will allow you to continue your RC soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts. We hope you enjoy these added features. Sincerely, Debra Cleghorn Debra Cleghorn Executive editor Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter 203.529.4658 Air Age Media 20 Westport Road Wilton, CT 06897 USA ---BeginMessage--- Title: Soaring V1 #11579 Good bye RCSE. Note the URL is http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/ Steve Siebenaler From: Debra Cleghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT Hi everyone, We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a better more interactive format at http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring. This blog site will allow you to continue your RC soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts. We hope you enjoy these added features. Sincerely, Debra Cleghorn Debra Cleghorn Executive editor Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter 203.529.4658 Air Age Media 20 Westport Road Wilton, CT 06897 USA ---End Message---
RE: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Mike, That post must have taken place before my time on RCSE...and it was definitely worth ALL of the Delete Key efforts that I've endured over the years. What a great read...Any more out there like that, I'd sure like to see 'em before RCSE disappears! -Sheldon- 2008 Soaring Nationals Head Turnaround Troll -Original Message- From: Mike Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:52 PM To: rdwoebke; RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE Ryan, here is the post from Dave Jones. _ The Shaggy Thermal Some time ago one of our flying friends, Jim, died. Rather sad really because he was such a character. It was typical of him that he stated in his will that he was to be buried with his Radio (fully charged) and his trusty Monarch HLG. Anyway, some few weeks later we had a seance and made contact with a strong presence that announced itself as Jim. He was always one to talk you leg off and he hadn't changed. The glass dashed madly across the board and nearly wore the letters out. The story that unfolded was astonishing and is here told and we have no way of verifying it. However here it is, in full, in Jim's own words. I have to tell you about soaring in the after life, it's certainly different. The first thing that I remember was falling down for miles into a dark pit with my Monarch and radio clutched in my hands. Eventually I came to a sudden stop in a clean white marble corridor. I was not alone for long, a chap in an Armani suit came along and spoke to me. Ah yes, Jim isn't it, welcome to our little kingdom. Where am I? Oh, there is plenty of time for curiosity, all the time you want, but to put you in your misery this is Hades. Hell! Rather an overworked image that, we prefer Hades, it's less threatening, and it rhymes better. So who are you, the Devil. There you go again, no my name is Mephistopheles, and I think that you will find it more correct, politically that is, to call him the Dark Lord, or when you get to know him Lucifer. Now come this way. We walked down this never ending corridor with white marble doors bearing notices in white paint. You know this isn't what I had in mind, it looks so clinical, cool and clean. Yes, good isn't it. We get a lot of corporate interior designers down here so we gave them a break from the Kitsch room. The Kitsch room? Of course you are new here. You see we don't go in for that fire and brimstone stuff, very old fashioned. No, we find that it is best to tailor the eternal environment to the client. So we have all of the Interior designers living in a house with flock Paisley wallpaper, plastic flowers, black vinyl covered chairs, flourescent T.V's. They wear bright nylon hawaian suits and plastic sandals, that sort of thing. That's not so bad? It is if you are an interior designer he said in an ominous tone and laughed. Look here's an interesting room, we keep all the Coke heads in here. He pushed open a door to a room stacked with white powder, mirrors, dollar bills and razor blades. Some figures were shuffling around in the distance. But you have given them everything that they want. Mephistopheles laughed. Yes, everything, absolutely everything, except. He waited expectantly for my question. Except what? Noses. Nice touch that, it was one of Lucifer's lighter moments. He closed the door and we walked on for hours. From time to time Mephistopheles would stop and open a door, it was horribly fascinating. There were Merchant Bankers trudging streets in ragged clothing with begging bowls, Heavy Metal freaks strapped to benches while Donny Osmond songs were played at 110 decibels, Nagging Neighbours in rooms whose walls were constantly being tapped, and too many more to mention now, another time perhaps. By now I was getting the idea of how the system worked and I was getting worried. We had reached the end of the corridor and were walking through a cave. Oh Jim, just ignore the decor around here, we haven't modernised it yet. What are these pits? Nothing very special, we call it the Bunyan section, it's so corny now. You see here, this one is for good intentions, that one up ahead, the huge one, is full of politicians promises. That one ahead is full of advertisers lies. We've already passed the pit of adulteries, quite an amusing one that, perhaps my favourite. You see that pile over there, Golf balls, the minor demons have great fun stealing them, childish really. We were passing the pit of politicians lies and Mephistopheles dragged his hand through the slimy surface. He stopped and held up several strips
Re: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
Why not create Yahoo Group named RCSE? Yahoo Groups work the same way as RCSE does. Some of us must act as moderators to keep spam out, as a drawback. 2008/8/26 Ed Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I paid a visit to the Blog site and registered. Not much there and virtually nothing on soaring. There are some media clips but you have to be someone's friend, apparently, in order to view them. I am an active forum user, so I will bounce around for a while to get the feel of the place, but so far nothing interesting. What little I did find seemed oriented to powered flight. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT Hi everyone, We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a better more interactive format at http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelairplan enews.com/group/soaring . This blog site will allow you to continue your RC soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts. We hope you enjoy these added features. Sincerely, Debra Cleghorn Executive editor Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter 203.529.4658 Air Age Media 20 Westport Road Wilton, CT 06897 USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT
Just sign up and join the soaring group. Add content as you wish, just like RSCE is now. JD From: Steve Siebenaler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:05 AM To: 'Debra Cleghorn'; Soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT Good bye RCSE. Note the URL is http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring/ Steve Siebenaler From: Debra Cleghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:32 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] IMPORTANT LISTSERVE ANNOUNCEMENT Hi everyone, We're happy to announce that the RC Soaring Listserve is moving to a better more interactive format at http://blogs-modelairplanenews.com/group/soaring http://flyby.airage.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blogs-modelair planenews.com/group/soaring . This blog site will allow you to continue your RC soaring discussions as before, but you can add videos, photos, other media and even chat live with fellow soaring enthusiasts. We hope you enjoy these added features. Sincerely, Debra Cleghorn Debra Cleghorn Executive editor Model Airplane News, Backyard Flyer, RC Helicopter 203.529.4658 Air Age Media 20 Westport Road Wilton, CT 06897 USA
Re: [RCSE] Migrating
You mean Joe Wurts won't be able use his Gordy Soar handle any more?? Here's something to consider when migrating to a replacement for RCSE. One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not cutesy-poo nam de plumes. Let's continue that practice in what ever forum we wind up in. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
RE: [RCSE] hello....is anybody out there?
Not to worry Gordy. I KNOW they will NEVER be able to silence you. It would be impossible. YOU WILL FIND A WAY, trust me on that one old boy. Lucky for us, Cliff Lindgren _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:25 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] hellois anybody out there? So how will we communicate now? As in letting everyone know about contests, for sale goodies, finding each other during a visit? Any suggestions? I suppose we'll have to surf the topics, nooks and crannies of RC Antonymous (er Groups?) Or set up something on the new Blog spot. Gordy _ It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547 here.
RE: [RCSE] Migrating
But...but Gordy Soar was such a cute name! -Original Message- From: Jim Deck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:10 AM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Migrating Here's something to consider when migrating to a replacement for RCSE. One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not cutesy-poo nam de plumes. Let's continue that practice in what ever forum we wind up in. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Migrating
Hi Jim, I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to disappear RCSE. I hope this will work out well to continue the fine work Mike has done over the last 10 years. Google Groups has done a great job with filtering spam and keeping the system simple to use. Please let me know if you have and further suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout. The groups homepage is: http://groups.google.com/group/rcse The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please tell your friends and get the word out. Thanks Dennis Hoyle WMSS AMA# SNUT www.rcsoaring.org - Original Message - From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: [RCSE] Migrating Here's something to consider when migrating to a replacement for RCSE. One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not cutesy-poo nam de plumes. Let's continue that practice in what ever forum we wind up in. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
It has been a great time and many new friends found See you all out there in the thermals beyond!! Paul Sherman P.S. I need contact information for the Indiana boys as I have located a trophy that needs to be mailed to the new champion of the State. Hit me up at [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] hello....is anybody out there?
Hey Gordy: We finally got a chance to try out the KY Horse Park field last Sat and it should do quite nicely. A bit of a slope, but nothing like Jacobson, a nice wide open field, with a few trees. We had 630 ft of line out, and its should be doable in practically all directions. Lift on Sat was very good. Congrats on the MVSA win. Cheers, AJ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] New RCSE
Bon voyage, RCSE! I'm surprised that a Windows NT box made it this far, to tell you the truth. I'm surprised I haven't heard more griping, but it's like most of us on the RCSE knew that it was going to come down at some point. It had a good run and definitely kept me close to the hobby when my focus shifted elsewhere during the off season. But now we've got some new-fangled options out there. RCGroups, this ModelAircraftNews site, and the Google Group created by Dennis Hoyle. I understand al ot of the complaints about RCGroups. I myself don't check in on it as much as I should - and for good reason. It's a discussion based site, and cannot be used like the RCSE. People check RCGroups at their leisure while the RCSE gets sent directly to you. It's pull versus push, and the PUSH of the RCSE keeps people reading it. RCGroups excels when it comes to focused discussions on topics, and not news and notifications. But now, the MAN and Google Groups systems give us the option to continue that conversation, but with a few new gee-gaws and gadgets, like uploading media files and creating pages. Excellent opportunities that I think might get used quite a bit. But which to use? No disrespect to ModelAirplaneNews, but my choice is definitely Google Groups, and here's why: 1. It's more accessible - Easier to use - Easier to post to (via email or web) - Easier to read - I can either get it via email, the web or plug it into a news reader like the Google Reader that I already use. - Maintains that simple push style that drops the emails in my mailbox, and I don't have to check it constantly. 2. It's Google - It's not going away any time soon - It will be constantly upgraded Obviously, I'll follow whereever most people go, but I'd prefer Google :) Dennis wrote: I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout. The groups homepage is: http://groups.google.com/group/rcse The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please tell your friends and get the word out. Dennis Hoyle WMSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Migrating
Dennis wrote: The groups homepage is: http://groups.google.com/group/rcse The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please tell your friends and get the word out. Already joined and posed a question. No responses yet. :-( Cheers Bill J. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] New RCSE
And there is soaring at yahoogroups.com which has been carrying this lists traffic for sometime. Since there are already 1383 members to that list and it already carried this lists traffic, it would seem a more natural migration. It offers both email push for those of us that like that as well as a web interface. It would be my choice over RCgroups, MAN and google groups (which seems to require a gmail address). On 26-Aug-08, at 9:45 AM, Ben Wilson wrote: Bon voyage, RCSE! I'm surprised that a Windows NT box made it this far, to tell you the truth. I'm surprised I haven't heard more griping, but it's like most of us on the RCSE knew that it was going to come down at some point. It had a good run and definitely kept me close to the hobby when my focus shifted elsewhere during the off season. But now we've got some new-fangled options out there. RCGroups, this ModelAircraftNews site, and the Google Group created by Dennis Hoyle. I understand al ot of the complaints about RCGroups. I myself don't check in on it as much as I should - and for good reason. It's a discussion based site, and cannot be used like the RCSE. People check RCGroups at their leisure while the RCSE gets sent directly to you. It's pull versus push, and the PUSH of the RCSE keeps people reading it. RCGroups excels when it comes to focused discussions on topics, and not news and notifications. But now, the MAN and Google Groups systems give us the option to continue that conversation, but with a few new gee-gaws and gadgets, like uploading media files and creating pages. Excellent opportunities that I think might get used quite a bit. But which to use? No disrespect to ModelAirplaneNews, but my choice is definitely Google Groups, and here's why: 1. It's more accessible - Easier to use - Easier to post to (via email or web) - Easier to read - I can either get it via email, the web or plug it into a news reader like the Google Reader that I already use. - Maintains that simple push style that drops the emails in my mailbox, and I don't have to check it constantly. 2. It's Google - It's not going away any time soon - It will be constantly upgraded Obviously, I'll follow whereever most people go, but I'd prefer Google :) Dennis wrote: I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to disappear RCSE. Please let me know if you have and further suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout. The groups homepage is: http://groups.google.com/group/rcse The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please tell your friends and get the word out. Dennis Hoyle WMSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Bozo says bye bye RCSE
Someone should do a Skeeter site one of these days... Phil Townsend wrote: Lets not forget The Skeeter! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] The posts that meant the most
Jim, I'm trying to remember when I might have to dig up my old MAN Soaring Columns or ESL newsletters to see if I can find some kind of date. The oldest posts I have in my mail software are from 1996. I think it goes back at least to 1994. Jim Deck wrote: I've been a participant of RCSE since its inception - just when did RCSE start, Mike? The posts that meant the most to me were the messages of encouragement I received when, as I was physically unable, my wife posted news of my onset of Gullaine Barre Syndrome. Those posts were a huge help to me at that time and during my lengthy recovery. Before RCSE shuts down, I'd like to thank everyone one more time. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Migrating
So far there seems to be 3 replacements posted. We'll see which actually pans out. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Migrating You mean Joe Wurts won't be able use his Gordy Soar handle any more?? Here's something to consider when migrating to a replacement for RCSE. One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not cutesy-poo nam de plumes. Let's continue that practice in what ever forum we wind up in. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
Re: [RCSE] Icon 2
I was not aware that there was an Icon 2 poem contest. This is a good start. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Phil Townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Icon 2 I never have won a contest... I never fly contests... There is nothing that I wish to contest. I fly for the pure fun of it and nothing less. Good toys are very rare... and time is short... Icon2 Phil Santa Fe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering
Craig; You haven't specified what type of covering it is. If it is Monokote I've been through this procedure many times before. 1) I start off by stripping off as much of the covering by hand. 2) Using a #11 exacto I pick as much as I can being careful not to gouge the wood underneath. 3) Any stubborn areas I simply sand off with 100 grit dry. Kurt From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:02 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Removing old covering I have some 40 year old covering to remove. Any suggestions on how? Craig
RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
Dope based?? could be silk-span.Find yourself a container of dope thinners to start. You will find that any dope-based finish be it silk-span, tissue or silk can be stripped quite easily. The previous post works for the most part. You should be able to soften any stubborn areas with the dope thinners. Good luck Kurt From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:50 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info It's hard to tell what type of covering it is... It's over 40 years old so it can't be any type of iron on, Its not silk, but does apear to be dope based Craig
RE: [RCSE] Removing ols covering
What is the model anyway? The only kit that I knew had bamboo was something like an Antic. Kurt From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:27 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Removing ols covering I think Kurt Z. figired it out It's silkspan and its painted with Hobby-Poxy. That's why lacquer thinner removes a little of the paint but does nothing to soften it. Although it does come off the bamboo rather nicely So I guess I'm going to have to use the two 20 year old cuties as Brian Chan suggested :-))) Actually I have a friend who has some 6' long 8 wide sanding belts. I'm going to glue them to my work table and make one big ass sanding block...
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Thank you for many, many things learned and much entertainment. I haven't flown R/C seriously in 8 years, but still follow RCSE. I will treasure my RCSE beer bottles JR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Well Mike, this is not a surprise in my book, but RCSE has been a great web cornerstone for a lot of years for RC soaring. I will admit that I spend a fair amount of time on RCGroups, and the pics and all are great. There is a lot of gobbledygook there just like there has been the same here, I guess it is just the web and the fact that folks can say about anything and they do, like some of our favorite filers have done here. To those that supplied RCSE to us and as in your case oversaw it's activities and maintenance, Thank You and Joe very much! Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
OK, I understand the motives for shutting RCSE down. 10 years is a long stretch in internet lingo. Thanks to Mike for all his efforts in opperating it. So, the burning question now is Where shall we go? Seriously, I not savy on what's out there. (and let's not tell Gordy) Bill Swingle Janesville, CA - Original Message - From: Mike Lachowski To: RCSE Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE The time is now for the end of RCSE. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's. I can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is definitely not the oldest stuff. Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are happening out there. There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized. The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard to get excited about a mailing list these days. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's. I can't even remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server down as soon as they can. It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT server these days. There are probably other security reasons to shut it down. I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing. And sorry, RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe. Thanks for the memories. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Bill et al There is a group RCSE at yahoo groups. I was thinking the same and wondering about creating a group and found that one. I like yahoogroups since I can get the forum as email but it does allow web viewing for those that prefer it. Veronica On 25-Aug-08, at 2:38 PM, Bill Swingle wrote: OK, I understand the motives for shutting RCSE down. 10 years is a long stretch in internet lingo. Thanks to Mike for all his efforts in opperating it. So, the burning question now is Where shall we go? Seriously, I not savy on what's out there. (and let's not tell Gordy) Bill Swingle Janesville, CA - Original Message - From: Mike Lachowski To: RCSE Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE The time is now for the end of RCSE. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's. I can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is definitely not the oldest stuff. Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are happening out there. There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized. The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard to get excited about a mailing list these days. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's. I can't even remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server down as soon as they can. It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT server these days. There are probably other security reasons to shut it down. I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon. So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing. And sorry, RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe. Thanks for the memories. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Sorry to hear that RCSE is ending soon. RCSE is the ONLY reason I still subscribe to Model Airplane News. I feel that was the least I could do for giving us RCSE. My oldest issue of MAN is dated 1947 and I still have most issues since then. It has been many years since MAN has had anything of interest to me so I will not renew my subscription when it expires. MAN has been slicking up and dumbing down for years until it has sunk to little more than a picture magazine. When I need something to read, I go to the attic and bring down a few issues of MAN, Model Builder, RCM, or Air Trails to read. They are a lot more interesting than anything published today. Model Builder was the last really interesting model magazine. Chuck At 04:15 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote: The time is now for the end of RCSE. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's. I can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is definitely not the oldest stuff. Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are happening out there. There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized. The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard to get excited about a mailing list these days. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's. I can't even remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server down as soon as they can. It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT server these days. There are probably other security reasons to shut it down. I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing. And sorry, RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe. Thanks for the memories. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
So Long Old Friend RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss it. Dennis Hoyle Mike Lachowski wrote: The time is now for the end of RCSE. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's. I can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is definitely not the oldest stuff. Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are happening out there. There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized. The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard to get excited about a mailing list these days. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's. I can't even remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server down as soon as they can. It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT server these days. There are probably other security reasons to shut it down. I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon. So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing. And sorry, RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe. Thanks for the memories. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Amen brother. I heard about several great airplanes through RCSE. One of which is my all time favorite. Thank you John Roe for your input there. It was a great resource! Bill Swingle Janesville, CA I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss it.
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Hrm , dumb question but why not update the server O/S? On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Mike Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The time is now for the end of RCSE. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's. I can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is definitely not the oldest stuff. Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are happening out there. There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized. The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard to get excited about a mailing list these days. RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's. I can't even remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server down as soon as they can. It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT server these days. There are probably other security reasons to shut it down. I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing. And sorry, RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe. Thanks for the memories. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
- Original Message From: Mike Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] The time is now for the end of RCSEMaybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing == Well, this is a sad day, Mike. Although I suppose it had to happen. I still have a file of old flame wars, name-calling, and disputes, but reading them now, it seems sort of gratuitous to re-post any. However, here's one classic. Sal posted a gripe about Karlton in which he spelled the latter's name as Charlatan. When Karlton objected, Sal said it was an innocent mistake: ...my spell checker didn't recognize Karlton and changed it, and I didn't notice...
Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE
Ryan, here is the post from Dave Jones. _ The Shaggy Thermal Some time ago one of our flying friends, Jim, died. Rather sad really because he was such a character. It was typical of him that he stated in his will that he was to be buried with his Radio (fully charged) and his trusty Monarch HLG. Anyway, some few weeks later we had a seance and made contact with a strong presence that announced itself as Jim. He was always one to talk you leg off and he hadn't changed. The glass dashed madly across the board and nearly wore the letters out. The story that unfolded was astonishing and is here told and we have no way of verifying it. However here it is, in full, in Jim's own words. I have to tell you about soaring in the after life, it's certainly different. The first thing that I remember was falling down for miles into a dark pit with my Monarch and radio clutched in my hands. Eventually I came to a sudden stop in a clean white marble corridor. I was not alone for long, a chap in an Armani suit came along and spoke to me. Ah yes, Jim isn't it, welcome to our little kingdom. Where am I? Oh, there is plenty of time for curiosity, all the time you want, but to put you in your misery this is Hades. Hell! Rather an overworked image that, we prefer Hades, it's less threatening, and it rhymes better. So who are you, the Devil. There you go again, no my name is Mephistopheles, and I think that you will find it more correct, politically that is, to call him the Dark Lord, or when you get to know him Lucifer. Now come this way. We walked down this never ending corridor with white marble doors bearing notices in white paint. You know this isn't what I had in mind, it looks so clinical, cool and clean. Yes, good isn't it. We get a lot of corporate interior designers down here so we gave them a break from the Kitsch room. The Kitsch room? Of course you are new here. You see we don't go in for that fire and brimstone stuff, very old fashioned. No, we find that it is best to tailor the eternal environment to the client. So we have all of the Interior designers living in a house with flock Paisley wallpaper, plastic flowers, black vinyl covered chairs, flourescent T.V's. They wear bright nylon hawaian suits and plastic sandals, that sort of thing. That's not so bad? It is if you are an interior designer he said in an ominous tone and laughed. Look here's an interesting room, we keep all the Coke heads in here. He pushed open a door to a room stacked with white powder, mirrors, dollar bills and razor blades. Some figures were shuffling around in the distance. But you have given them everything that they want. Mephistopheles laughed. Yes, everything, absolutely everything, except. He waited expectantly for my question. Except what? Noses. Nice touch that, it was one of Lucifer's lighter moments. He closed the door and we walked on for hours. From time to time Mephistopheles would stop and open a door, it was horribly fascinating. There were Merchant Bankers trudging streets in ragged clothing with begging bowls, Heavy Metal freaks strapped to benches while Donny Osmond songs were played at 110 decibels, Nagging Neighbours in rooms whose walls were constantly being tapped, and too many more to mention now, another time perhaps. By now I was getting the idea of how the system worked and I was getting worried. We had reached the end of the corridor and were walking through a cave. Oh Jim, just ignore the decor around here, we haven't modernised it yet. What are these pits? Nothing very special, we call it the Bunyan section, it's so corny now. You see here, this one is for good intentions, that one up ahead, the huge one, is full of politicians promises. That one ahead is full of advertisers lies. We've already passed the pit of adulteries, quite an amusing one that, perhaps my favourite. You see that pile over there, Golf balls, the minor demons have great fun stealing them, childish really. We were passing the pit of politicians lies and Mephistopheles dragged his hand through the slimy surface. He stopped and held up several strips of decaying paper. I read them quickly; Peace in our time, Watch my lips, Full Employment, The Triumph of the Proletariat. He tossed them carelessly back into the pit. Up ahead the light flickered, we were entering Lucifer's office, to the right was a huge flaming pit, something else that hadn't been modernised. I would advise you to be polite, he can get nasty. Sure, anything you say. Imagine my surprise when I was walked up to a table and sitting there was the Dark Lord dressed like a Tax Inspector. Next case.
Re: [RCSE] What the heck???
Thats just damn cute -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: Dan Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thelopezfamilyonline.com/play.php?first=Gordylast=Stahl ---BeginMessage--- http://www.thelopezfamilyonline.com/play.php?first=Gordylast=Stahl ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] What the heck???
That's just damn scary.. Robert P Buxton CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and prohibited from unauthorized disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.
Re: [RCSE] What the heck???
But who exactly will be his running mate? That ought to be interesting! Rob 2008/8/24 Dan Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thelopezfamilyonline.com/play.php?first=Gordylast=Stahl
RE: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site
Craig, Adam Weston flew one at Poway, and placed in the top 10, and then flew one in the German Open and placed fairly well also. Heck, he beat you at Poway! Chris Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site From: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, August 22, 2008 9:23 pm To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Just curios ... Does anyone know anyone who has bought an Encore in the last couple of years And an Icon 2 at $2,200.. I'm rolling on the floor :-)) --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site To: soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:35 PM Greetings... Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new site up. Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??
1. Gordy will require a landing task to decide who is cabinet will be. (He may not need advisors, but he DOES need someone to keep an eye on him) 2. All press confrences will be timed with a talking timer and he will end them all promptly..to get maximum points. 3. Teddy Roosevelt used to challenge foreign heads of state to a boxing match to settle issues, Gordy will require a fly off and he will make the foregin heads of state use the world's heaviest Supra against his Ava. Calm conditions only, off of a high start. Gordy likes the edge. 4. Finally Gordy will have all of the trees around the white house removed so he can launch from the front lawn. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:24:20 -0500 1. The Airforce will be required to fly all planes of every type inverted to check each aircraft's CG. 2. The Boy and Girl Scouts will be disbanded so all kids can start their LSF levels. 3. International squirmishes will be replaced with man on man flyoffs with TWO popoffs allowed ! 4. The President's cabinet will be disbanded. Gordy doesn't need advisors ! 5. The White house will be repainted a 'Volz' blue. 6. And you ?. S Gibson _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008
Re: [RCSE] Gordy for President ??
I'm ok with this so long as he doesn't show up on Mt. Rushmore ! - Crazy Horse may be more appropriate - :-) Ron Mong - Original Message - From: TG Bean To: SJG ; RCSoaring Exchange Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Gordy for President ?? 1. Gordy will require a landing task to decide who is cabinet will be. (He may not need advisors, but he DOES need someone to keep an eye on him) 2. All press confrences will be timed with a talking timer and he will end them all promptly..to get maximum points. 3. Teddy Roosevelt used to challenge foreign heads of state to a boxing match to settle issues, Gordy will require a fly off and he will make the foregin heads of state use the world's heaviest Supra against his Ava. Calm conditions only, off of a high start. Gordy likes the edge. 4. Finally Gordy will have all of the trees around the white house removed so he can launch from the front lawn. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Gordy for President ?? Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:24:20 -0500 1. The Airforce will be required to fly all planes of every type inverted to check each aircraft's CG. 2. The Boy and Girl Scouts will be disbanded so all kids can start their LSF levels. 3. International squirmishes will be replaced with man on man flyoffs with TWO popoffs allowed ! 4. The President's cabinet will be disbanded. Gordy doesn't need advisors ! 5. The White house will be repainted a 'Volz' blue. 6. And you ?. S Gibson -- See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out!
RE: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site
That's $2,100. You get what you pay for (or less). Folks who own them REALLY like them. A comparable (if you could compare them) F3J/Masters Supra is ONLY $1,900. Joe From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:23 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site Just curios ... Does anyone know anyone who has bought an Encore in the last couple of years And an Icon 2 at $2,200.. I'm rolling on the floor :-)) --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site To: soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:35 PM Greetings... Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new site up. Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site
I can't say much about the site other than for 98SE/56k dialup the Macromedia pictures lock up the page when exiting. I'll move into the 21st century one of these days. I can say that the Icon 2 is a VERY good flying plane once you get the CG right. I have seen Dave Hauch's fly. From the time it rotates off his winch to the crawl in for a landing it is pure beauty and grace. No mistaking who's plane it is in the gaggle at 150 either!! Joe Proud owner of three flying Falcon 880's One of Four Super Esprit Pilots LSF Level I Thermal Rider - The Original Nostalgia Pages Home of the Gentle Giants of Days Gone Bye. http://www.thermalrider.com -Original Message- From: Joe Nave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:35 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site Greetings... Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new site up. Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Louisville Sweeps Gateway DLG Today!
Well, thats *mostly* right... I actually finished third behind St. Louis' own Chris Lee in second. Better watch out for this dude! Helis, DLG, TD and contest directing, too :) Good contest yesterday despite the soggy conditions. I can only imagine what a treat this sod farm must be to fly on... When there is actually grass! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:55 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Louisville Sweeps Gateway DLG Today! Bruce Davidson and Ben Wilson did the deal for first and second! Gorgeous weather but challenging conditions...8 rounds I'm here for this weekend of big boy toys :-). Gordy It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
Re: [RCSE] Re: External DC power Question
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:54:07PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |I know the Triton expects to see something like a 12 volt car |battery, so can I/ how would I go about using this power supply without |frying the Triton? If you're worried about futzing around, then I'd just skip that PS and get a 12v one. I picked up a PS with the same shape/form factor for about the same price a few years ago on Ebay and it was 12 volts. It had a pot that would fine tune the voltage, but I doubt it could drop it by 50%. (It also put out the same power -- they halved the voltage, and doubled the amperage.) Ebay seems to have lots of similar power supplies that do 12v, but the price seems to have gone up, and many are in Hong Kong ... |I have a stack of like five old computer power supplies on the bench, I |had thought about getting one of them to work for this using the |Internet directions but don't have the time/inclination to futz around. It's probably less futzing than modifying a 24v PS to be 12v anyways ... |This one is $24 and that's about half what the local Radio Scrap store |would charge for something similar. Radio Shack is easily beaten. Though even $50 at RS for a 6A PS seems a bit cheap. If there's a local ham radio swap meet, they're good places to look for this sort of thing. Or go down to Goodwill, and find a laptop or printer power brick that emits 12 volts. The Triton can use up to 13 amps, but unless you charge large NiCd or NiMH packs (5 amps, 20 cells, that sort of stuff) you'll never go anywhere near that limit, and can do with a much smaller power supply. Six amps will probably handle most people just fine, for example. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no monument dedicated to the memory of a committee. --Lester J. Pourciau RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Louisville Sweeps Gateway DLG Today!
That's great news Gordy... But me and my Polish Girlfriends want to know about Graeters Ice cream :-) http://www.graeters.com/louisville.aspx We have already driven 2800 miles across the western United States.. Should we drive another 3000 or so round trip for French Pot Ice Cream??? I am averaging 31mpg :-)) And tell Bruce he would do better with Red Vines :- Craig --- On Fri, 8/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Louisville Sweeps Gateway DLG Today! To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 5:55 PM Bruce Davidson and Ben Wilson did the deal for first and second! Gorgeous weather but challenging conditions...8 rounds I'm here for this weekend of big boy toys :-). Gordy It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
Re: [RCSE] Re: External DC power Question
I found a 20A PS off rcuniverse for $60. http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=422190 Rob On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:54:07PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |I know the Triton expects to see something like a 12 volt car |battery, so can I/ how would I go about using this power supply without |frying the Triton? If you're worried about futzing around, then I'd just skip that PS and get a 12v one. I picked up a PS with the same shape/form factor for about the same price a few years ago on Ebay and it was 12 volts. It had a pot that would fine tune the voltage, but I doubt it could drop it by 50%. (It also put out the same power -- they halved the voltage, and doubled the amperage.) Ebay seems to have lots of similar power supplies that do 12v, but the price seems to have gone up, and many are in Hong Kong ... |I have a stack of like five old computer power supplies on the bench, I |had thought about getting one of them to work for this using the |Internet directions but don't have the time/inclination to futz around. It's probably less futzing than modifying a 24v PS to be 12v anyways ... |This one is $24 and that's about half what the local Radio Scrap store |would charge for something similar. Radio Shack is easily beaten. Though even $50 at RS for a 6A PS seems a bit cheap. If there's a local ham radio swap meet, they're good places to look for this sort of thing. Or go down to Goodwill, and find a laptop or printer power brick that emits 12 volts. The Triton can use up to 13 amps, but unless you charge large NiCd or NiMH packs (5 amps, 20 cells, that sort of stuff) you'll never go anywhere near that limit, and can do with a much smaller power supply. Six amps will probably handle most people just fine, for example. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no monument dedicated to the memory of a committee. --Lester J. Pourciau RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site
Just curios ... Does anyone know anyone who has bought an Encore in the last couple of years And an Icon 2 at $2,200.. I'm rolling on the floor :-)) --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joe Nave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site To: soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:35 PM Greetings... Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new site up. Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] September RC Soaring Digest
- Original Message From: Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...I just read the design article about the Kinetic in this latest issue and have to say it is the best article I have ever read in a model magazine. = Pat beat me to it -- I wanted to say the same. I was tremendously impressed and fascinated by the story behind the Kinetic and the Thundertaker. I have been following the adventures of the DS experts on RC Groups, and this story fills a lot of the blanks that I was wondering about. The design and construction of these planes is just magnificent (and so is the fact that they fly faster than 300 mph). Us thermal guys could get a lot of inspiration from the great work that Messrs Seim, Lisenby, Lilly, Manor and others are doing.
Re: [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver
If you're getting a new retriever,or changing the motor, it seems like a 12V wind is in order. I wonder if there isn't a way to play with the existing windings to accomplish the same thing. On a slightly related topic, I've discovered that for winding line onto the winch at a reasonable speed, at least on a 12V wind, a battery charger is nice and slow. Since the charger is probably current limited, it might work for the usual 6V wind as well. To tell the truth I don't recall which setting on the charger I used, 2 amp or 10 amp at 12V, or the 6V setting. Probably if you lay out hundreds of yards of line in the grass it won't have enough oomph. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin
THANKS JD! this is what I call service -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: John Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] All, Please see the link below for an important service bulletin regarding the X9303 radio. We have recently discovered that the aileron gimbals wire harness is chaffing on the RF board regulator. It is a simple fix but an important one. If you find your wires exposed please contact Horizon Service Dept at 877-504-0233 http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1822 Thanks, JD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver
Hi Jim - what I did for my Rahm retriever is get 2 big honking diodes from the surplus store and put them in series with the power line. This cuts the voltage down so the retriever runs nice on 12v. There are also cheaper alternatives, I think on RCGroups there was a discussion about using a home made resistor to do the same thing. All it was was a bottle with some lower gauge wire in it filled with water as a heat sink run inline with the power line. I hated getting and maintaining a separate 6v battery, plus if you used it up, there are generally no spares just laying around. I can give you pics of my setup if you want. FWIW - Jim _ From: James MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:29 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver Hello All from stormy east coast of florida, I am looking for a model number and source for a 6 volt battery for our Rham retreiver. It should have about 50 to 60 amp hours of capacity. This will be a reasonable sized package - not too grunt heavy! Up to now I have been using three Trojan T-105 for the winch and retreiver but they are old and tired. Everyone else around here uses 12 volt winch batteries in parallel for various reasons. Charging is one of them. So I might follow suit but I need a smaller retreiver battery since I don't want to lug a T105 if not required! 12 volts makes the retreiver run too fast. The new fully automatic retreivers work very well but the club budget will not stand that this year. Any ideas? Somebody has to make a reasonable sized 6 volt battery larger than the 20 AH things for motorcycles. Thanks, Jim
RE: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin
You can now enlarge the photos to get a better look. JD -Original Message- From: Jack Strother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:34 AM To: John Diniz; Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin THANKS JD! this is what I call service -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: John Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] All, Please see the link below for an important service bulletin regarding the X9303 radio. We have recently discovered that the aileron gimbals wire harness is chaffing on the RF board regulator. It is a simple fix but an important one. If you find your wires exposed please contact Horizon Service Dept at 877-504-0233 http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1822 Thanks, JD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver
Jim and Jim, Another thing you can do to slow or speed up the retriever is change the gearing ratio of the pulleys being used. The one I built was just fine for speed, it's the same the TPG uses, sized from the plans the designer sent me. Sal Peluseo. Jerry Miller Jim Monaco wrote: *Hi Jim – what I did for my Rahm retriever is get 2 big honking diodes from the surplus store and put them in series with the power line. This cuts the voltage down so the retriever runs nice on 12v. There are also cheaper alternatives, I think on RCGroups there was a discussion about using a home made resistor to do the same thing. All it was was a bottle with some lower gauge wire in it filled with water as a heat sink run inline with the power line.* * * *I hated getting and maintaining a separate 6v battery, plus if you used it up, there are generally no spares just laying around…* * * *I can give you pics of my setup if you want.* * * *FWIW - Jim* * * * * *From:* James MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:29 AM *To:* soaring@airage.com *Subject:* [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver Hello All from stormy east coast of florida, I am looking for a model number and source for a 6 volt battery for our Rham retreiver. It should have about 50 to 60 amp hours of capacity. This will be a reasonable sized package - not too grunt heavy! Up to now I have been using three Trojan T-105 for the winch and retreiver but they are old and tired. Everyone else around here uses 12 volt winch batteries in parallel for various reasons. Charging is one of them. So I might follow suit but I need a smaller retreiver battery since I don't want to lug a T105 if not required! 12 volts makes the retreiver run too fast. The new fully automatic retreivers work very well but the club budget will not stand that this year. Any ideas? Somebody has to make a reasonable sized 6 volt battery larger than the 20 AH things for motorcycles. Thanks, Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 6 V battery for retreiver
Go to an auto part store and ask for golf cart batteries. We ran Rahm retrievers for years on these batteries. you also need a charger that will do 6 volts. The battery does not need to be very large. About half the size of the 12 volt battery for the winch. The retriever is under much less load and the smaller 6 v retriever battery would out last two batteries pulling the winch. Sherman L Knight Team JR 425-576-4028 wk pacific std time [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/20/2008 10:10:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry, The pulley trick won't work for the Rahm retriever, it is direct drive. Only way to slow it down is electronically, either with a 6 V battery or cutting the voltage of a 12 V battery. JT **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [RCSE] RV rental for Fall Fest?
Hello David, I asked the same question and was told the company that did it two years ago ripped a lot of people off by not returning their deposits, so they were not recommending anyone anymore. Craig --- On Wed, 8/20/08, David Zucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Zucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] RV rental for Fall Fest? To: soaring@airage.com Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 6:53 PM I'm looking into renting an RV for the annual Visalia Fall Fest. I remember there is a rental Company that will bring the RV out and pick it up after the contest. Can someone refresh my memory as to the name of the Company? TIA David Zucker Vice-President Pismo Beach Soaring Society RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver - one solution
In a message dated 8/20/2008 6:29:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charging is one of them. Any ideas? Jim, Buy a cheap set of jumper cables and run the retriever with these hooked to a 12 volt battery. I ran my Rham that way for several years. If you have two 12 volts hooked in parallel, just use one of them for the retriever. Don Richmond San Diego, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] _www.hilaunch.com_ (http://www.hilaunch.com/) **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [RCSE] September RC Soaring Digest
Guys, I hate to sound like Gordy, but I just read the design article about the Kinetic in this latest issue and have to say it is the best article I have ever read in a model magazine. It is very well written, has great pictures and tons of great history of how this plane came about. This is a must read no matter what your level of interest is in this great hobby of ours. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita KS - Original Message - From: Bill Bunny Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:17 PM Subject: [RCSE] September RC Soaring Digest We're pleased to announce the September 2008 issue of RC Soaring Digest is now available for downloading from the RCSD web site http://www.rcsoaringdigest.com. The issue highlights are now available at http://www.rcsoaringdigest.com/highlights.html. This issue has 34 pages and is 6.1 MB in size. If you are using a dial-up connection and desire a smaller RCSD PDF, consider downloading the highly compressed version of this issue (2.4 MB) from the RCSoaringDigest Yahoo! Group Files section. The image quality is reduced, but download time is significantly less. You must be a member of the RCSoaringDigest Yahoo! Group to download these compressed PDFs. If you're using a broad-band connection, you may want to download the original high quality PDF of this issue (12.4 MB) from the RC Soaring Digest web site http://www.rcsoaringdigest.com/pdfs/Originals/. In the interests of bandwidth and server usage, we ask that you download only ONE version of each monthly issue from the RC Soaring Digest web site. That is, download either the normal size issue from the main or highlights page link, or download the full size version from Originals folder - not both. Thanks for your continued readership! -- Bill Bunny Kuhlman RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin
Thanks for the heads up John. Two of the wires in my aileron gimbal wire harness were worn half in two. I'm sending it in tomorrow. Only problem I'm right in the middle of the contest season. So much for this year. Walter Subject: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:20:52 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com All, Please see the link below for an important service bulletin regarding the X9303 radio. We have recently discovered that the aileron gimbals wire harness is chaffing on the RF board regulator. It is a simple fix but an important one. If you find your wires exposed please contact Horizon Service Dept at 877-504-0233 http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1822 Thanks, JD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send 'subscribe' and 'unsubscribe' requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format _ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008
RE: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin
JD, Fix took just a few minutes!!! Thanks!!! Steve Siebenaler -Original Message- From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:21 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin All, Please see the link below for an important service bulletin regarding the X9303 radio. We have recently discovered that the aileron gimbals wire harness is chaffing on the RF board regulator. It is a simple fix but an important one. If you find your wires exposed please contact Horizon Service Dept at 877-504-0233 http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1822 Thanks, JD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin..or how I fix chaffing
Hey Gordy, Why not try some Preparation H? Lets see if you consume that if it will assist in shrinking your head:))) HeH. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed it a long time ago, so I stuffed MM's inside the back, that kept the wire from chaffing and if I get hungry during a flight I just pop off the battery cover and shake...sort of like a Pez dispenser but where the ammo has a dual purpose as opposed to a dual rate...although shaking too hard does increase the rate of candies dispense,and can affect your scores. I first tried Gold Bond powder to stop the chaffing but it tasted really bad. Gordy I had Buffalo wings in Buffalo tonite..you? It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
Re: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin
JD, No issues found on my 2.4 radio and put the fix in place, I'm good to go. sj - Original Message - From: John Dinizmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.commailto:Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: [RCSE] X9303 service bulletin All, Please see the link below for an important service bulletin regarding the X9303 radio. We have recently discovered that the aileron gimbals wire harness is chaffing on the RF board regulator. It is a simple fix but an important one. If you find your wires exposed please contact Horizon Service Dept at 877-504-0233 http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1822http://wwwjrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1822 Thanks, JD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering
I guess it depends on the covering. what kind is it? how was it adhered to the model? My first thought is heat gun, but only if its a monokote type covering. Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:02:24 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [RCSE] Removing old coveringTo: soaring@airage.com I have some 40 year old covering to remove. Any suggestions on how?Craig _ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/
RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
Craig, If it is dope based, then acetone will work fine. However, any color in the dope will probably remain in the wood or seep into the wood. I might try nail polish remover, as it has some MEK, which like acetone, works but is less volatile and may contain some nitromethane. You might try methylene chloride or chloroform. I do not thin isopropyl alcohol will work, but perhaps some mineral spirits. Do remember that if there is any foam, then all this stuff is useless. I have a Friend who works alot with nitrate dope and tissue who I will try to contact for more info. He is a free flighter from 40 years ago! Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info From: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, August 18, 2008 7:49 am To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com It's hard to tell what type of covering it is... It's over 40 years old so it can't be any type of iron on, Its not silk, but does apear to be dope based Craig RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing ols covering
At 9:26 AM -0700 8/18/08, Craig Allen wrote: I think Kurt Z. figired it out It's silkspan and its painted with Hobby-Poxy. That's why lacquer thinner removes a little of the paint but does nothing to soften it. Although it does come off the bamboo rather nicely So I guess I'm going to have to use the two 20 year old cuties as Brian Chan suggested :-))) Actually I have a friend who has some 6' long 8 wide sanding belts. I'm going to glue them to my work table and make one big ass sanding block... I am sure a propane torch will do the job Brian -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing ols covering
Speaking of torches Brian When are you going to start having tours of your garage? For those of you who don't know, Brian's Garage-shop is like a modelers fantasy come true. Imagine the biggest best hobby shop in the world and then double it :-) Electrics, gliders, scale gliders, soon to be mine 1/3scale Sig Spacewalker :-) Anything and everything you can imagine and then sum. Craig - Original Message From: B. Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:33:14 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Removing ols covering At 9:26 AM -0700 8/18/08, Craig Allen wrote: I think Kurt Z. figired it out It's silkspan and its painted with Hobby-Poxy. That's why lacquer thinner removes a little of the paint but does nothing to soften it. Although it does come off the bamboo rather nicely So I guess I'm going to have to use the two 20 year old cuties as Brian Chan suggested :-))) Actually I have a friend who has some 6' long 8 wide sanding belts. I'm going to glue them to my work table and make one big ass sanding block... I am sure a propane torch will do the job Brian -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
At 09:49 AM 8/18/2008, you wrote: It's hard to tell what type of covering it is... It's over 40 years old so it can't be any type of iron on, Its not silk, but does apear to be dope based Craig Skyloft was a popular covering material from the late 60s. Skyloft was a nylon mat material that looked a lot like silkspan but was much stronger. It was applied with dope just like silkspan. I used it to cover several RC pattern models between 1969 and 1974 and even covered a free flight wing with skyloft. If you crashed a built up model covered with skyloft, you never needed a trash bag for the parts after a crash. The skyloft served quite well to contain the parts. :) Chuck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig, If it is dope based, then acetone will work fine. However, any color in the dope will probably remain in the wood or seep into the wood. I might try nail polish remover, as it has some MEK, which like acetone, works but is less volatile and may contain some nitromethane. You might try methylene chloride or chloroform. This is a list of some rather nasty chemicals, i.e. carcinogenic, mutanogenic, or simply poisonous. Please to be careful, wear gloves (not latex) and lots and lots of ventilation. Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Hold on there! Carcinogenic, mutanogenic, poisonous! So, should I be worrying about the times (as a kid) that I used acetone as a hand cleaner to remove things like grease and fiberglass resin? Concerned modelers want to know. Well this one at least. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
That's the least of my problems... Didn't you clean old quarters with mercury? used Acetone, Naphtha, jet fuel, and anything else we could find to clean our hands... and the worst of all... Film cleaner (triclorethane 1,1,1) in a ultrasonic tank. Our old house would probably be put on the Superfund list if they ever tested it :-))) - Original Message From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:41:23 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info Hold on there! Carcinogenic, mutanogenic, poisonous! So, should I be worrying about the times (as a kid) that I used acetone as a hand cleaner to remove things like grease and fiberglass resin? Concerned modelers want to know. Well this one at least. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
Bill Swingle wrote: Hold on there! Carcinogenic, mutanogenic, poisonous! So, should I be worrying about the times (as a kid) that I used acetone as a hand cleaner to remove things like grease and fiberglass resin? Concerned modelers want to know. Well this one at least. Sheiiish, here we go. I was not referring to acetone. I was pointing at the chlorinated hydrocarbons (methylene chloride or chloroform) and nitromethane. These can be bad actors. Simply because you've used a lot of stuff in the past that we now know is evil and you are still alive doesn't mean it's safe. As chair of the department safety committee I've learned to be anal about certain things. If you smoke tobacco forget everything I've mentioned above, it's already too late. If you don't smoke, have used all those evil chemicals and are still alive, don't think you're getting off free. Do you still have all your hair? Do you hit every one of your landings? Can you sleep 12 hours without having to get up to pee? If you can't answer YES to each of those questions, all those chemicals are getting to you! So There!!! ;-) Cheers, Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
What worked for me was a combination of sanding/buffing discs on a Dremel tool. Friction did cause some monokote color to meld into the surface of the wood, but I was using opaque for the refinish, so it didn't matter in my case. Instead of caustic chems, I have a theory: consider a heavy glove and a chunk of dry ice from the local ice cream shop or megamart. Try rubbing the chunk of dry ice on the edges of the covering. In theory, it should cause the mylar and glue to contract, embrittle, and crack off, the wood should shrug it off, and the glue joints will likely hold if not directly touched. Mark S. ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
RE: [RCSE] Gordy's Sand Dollars
Gordy, What is the cut you get for all the diamond rings, jewelry, watches, and money you find when your machines filter the sand I saw them do a blurb last night on them for the Men's Beach Volleyball event. Are the machines Made in China and do the Radio Controls use 2.4 GHz Inquiring minds want to know! Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Gordy's Sand Dollars From: Paul Rickie Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, August 16, 2008 7:36 am To: Soaring@airage.com Gordy!! For heavens sake WHAT has making dollars with radio control beach cleaners have to do with Radio Control Soaring--have you lost your creativity !!?? What a bummer! This post!? I am announcing I am going to be slope soaring my tired/ Blushing /Taboo up the west coast of Japan as well as a L.A. /Scrappy /(mini zagi like wing made from scraps--now that is creativity, Gordy) that my son Jonathan built and gave me for a Father's Day past! So there, Gordy. From the Isles BEYOND Hawaii, Gordy!! (Gordy doesn't know Japan from Hawaii any more than he knows the difference between beer and barley pops! Skypilot RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] WTB Hand launch DLG
Anyone flying a LongShot? Looks like it might fly. In the price range of the Sidewinder. T - Original Message - From: Alberto To: Andy Thonet Cc: R/C Soaring.COM Webmaster ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [RCSE] WTB Hand launch DLG Andy: Check these ones out at: http://www.hobbyclub.com/index.php?cPath=21_33 rgds, Alberto www.hobbyclub.com - Original Message - From: Andy Thonet To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: [RCSE] WTB Hand launch DLG I have a friend hat want to buy and get back into hand launch, Tell me what you have and how much. Thanks Andy Orange Co. CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Smoke systems for gliders....
I made an electric smoke system for my electric Rascal 110. I used 12v ceramic heaters in parallel that I cast into a series of chambers and a pressurized chemical mixture of two glycol's Worked great on the ground. I could fill my 150ft x 50ft court yard in about 10 sec. to were you could not see and good enough that the fire department responded twice :-). But in the air it was never enough. It would leave a trail, but could never got the output needed. Craig - Original Message From: Dtrimas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:02:22 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Smoke systems for gliders You wanna talk about dumb? Can you use liquid nitrogen to make smoke? -- Dtrimas Dtrimas's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=221306 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104097 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] (No subject header)
It would look like you would need to use the switch to reverse the polarity of the brushes in the two switch positions. A little surgery will be needed but it is doable. Timing may be an issue but you should only see reduced torque in the nonstock polarity. Mark Miller - Original Message From: Rick Bothell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:51:59 PM Subject: [RCSE] (No subject header) Several years back I saw that someone knew how to reverse the direction of the Ford Long Shaft motor. I want to run one forward and reverse from two pushbutton switches. 1) How do I reverse it? 2) How do I wire it so I can go forward and reverse?In case you think reversing the polarity at the battery will reverse a FLS motor, it won't. It will blow the diode in the newer type solenoid though. Done that. Thanks for any info. Rick Rick Bothell www.handsfreeretriever.com Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.netRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Several DLG questions
Dan, Many of your questions have answers and much more info on RCgroups.com on the Handlaunch forums. See:http://www.rcgroups.com/hand-launch-96/ As for the other questions, most are using composite winged planes because of their stiffness, airfoil accuracy, and ease of building. There are many built up plane kits out there, of which the DL50 is nice. there are build logs for it as well as others Whig you might find helpful. As for the separate rudder and elevator, sub-rudders assist with reducing boom bending, hence building a rudder and not having to split it for an elevator is nice. As for elevators, again, you have a much lighter and stronger structure. However, one of the best real reasons is transporting the plane. You can remove the elevator and the fuse then lies flat in a box, or whatever. The tailfeathers are quite light and delicate, so this prevent hanger rash! As for aerodynamics, you still have the intersections of the surfaces, so drag is not really that much different. In some cases you can uses an all moving stab, and that helps with obtaining the best incidence for launching and thermaling. There are other reasons, so again, I invite you to look at RCgroups, and you can pour through all the old posts and questions. There are lots of pictures, so that helps alot too. Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Several DLG questions From: Dan Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, August 12, 2008 5:00 pm To: soaring@airage.com Gentlemen: Before flying season fades into the sunset, I would like to build a DLG. At this point in my life I have more time than money, so I am looking at a built-up entry level kit rather than spending $300+ for an ARF or a high-performance kit. I have been researching quite a bit over the last several days, and the conventional built-up kit selection is rather sparse. Right now, the most likely candidates are the QF2 from Mountain Models and the Gambler AF from Wright Brothers RC. I have also considered the relatively low cost ARF Apache from SoaringUSA.com As I researched built-up DLG's it seemed that most of them were 50 span or less rather than the usual 1.5m span that dominates the higher end models. Is this for structural integrity or mostly for personal convenience/choice? As a novice DLG flyer should I look toward shorter span models or stick with the 1.5m ships? I am also curious to understand why the vertical and horizontal tail surfaces are separated on most DLG's. Aerodynamically I know that fewer intersections helps with drag, but are there other reasons for doing so? I have been flying r/c for 36+ years so I am not a novice to model flight but DLG is a whole new world for me. If anyone on the exchange has experience with the models named above (or similar kits) or can offer a novice DLG pilot some practical advise on span choice, Rudder/Elevator vs Rudder/Aileron/Elevator, polyhedral vs dihedral models or any other area that might prove helpful, I would be very grateful. Thanks Dan Ashenfelter Fort Dodge, Iowa RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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You can't do it with a switch. The timing of the brushes controls the direction. On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:51:59 -0700, wrote: Several years back I saw that someone knew how to reverse the direction of the Ford Long Shaft motor. I want to run one forward and reverse from two pushbutton switches. 1) How do I reverse it? 2) How do I wire it so I can go forward and reverse?In case you think reversing the polarity at the battery will reverse a FLS motor, it won't. It will blow the diode in the newer type solenoid though. Done that. Thanks for any info. Rick Rick Bothell www.handsfreeretriever.com - Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.netRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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You can't do it with a switch. The timing of the brushes controls the direction. On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:51:59 -0700, wrote: Several years back I saw that someone knew how to reverse the direction of the Ford Long Shaft motor. I want to run one forward and reverse from two pushbutton switches. 1) How do I reverse it? 2) How do I wire it so I can go forward and reverse?In case you think reversing the polarity at the battery will reverse a FLS motor, it won't. It will blow the diode in the newer type solenoid though. Done that. Thanks for any info. Rick Rick Bothell www.handsfreeretriever.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Jeff Steifel wrote: You can't do it with a switch. The timing of the brushes controls the direction. Hey now, Um, no, not true. The timing controls how efficent the motor turns in whatever direction. If the timing is off a bit it'll still work, just not as well. RobII *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erica Frank Rob Carter II Roast dragon, fried dragon, dragon steak, dragon cassarole, baked dragon-in-onions, dragon omelette, dragon stew, dragon-on-a-stick-- next time I kill a rabbit, period.--St. George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Actually if you turn it way off it will turn in the other direction. This is how the ESL winches worked on Goughner frames before Mike Wade modified our frames. Erica and or Rob wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Jeff Steifel wrote: You can't do it with a switch. The timing of the brushes controls the direction. Hey now, Um, no, not true. The timing controls how efficent the motor turns in whatever direction. If the timing is off a bit it'll still work, just not as well. RobII *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.* [EMAIL PROTECTED]Erica Frank Rob Carter II Roast dragon, fried dragon, dragon steak, dragon cassarole, baked dragon-in-onions, dragon omelette, dragon stew, dragon-on-a-stick-- next time I kill a rabbit, period.--St. George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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In a FLS each field coil is in series with a brush set. The power goes through the field coil and into the positive brush, through the armature and then is grounded on the negative brush which is 90 degrees to the positive brush. If you disconnect the brushes from the field coil and have a switch to reverse polarity of each brush set it will reverse the motor. It is a lot of work but it is doable. It would also require the switch to carry the full current of the motor. Maybe you could use a switch to control a DPDT relay that can handle the current it takes to run the motor. Mark - Original Message From: Jeff Steifel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Erica and or Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 5:13:19 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] (No subject header) Actually if you turn it way off it will turn in the other direction. This is how the ESL winches worked on Goughner frames before Mike Wade modified our frames. Erica and or Rob wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Jeff Steifel wrote: You can't do it with a switch. The timing of the brushes controls the direction. Hey now, Um, no, not true. The timing controls how efficent the motor turns in whatever direction. If the timing is off a bit it'll still work, just not as well. RobII *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.* [EMAIL PROTECTED]Erica Frank Rob Carter II Roast dragon, fried dragon, dragon steak, dragon cassarole, baked dragon-in-onions, dragon omelette, dragon stew, dragon-on-a-stick-- next time I kill a rabbit, period.--St. George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] If you were watching the Olympic Beach Volley Ball tonite...
I just seen that Gordy. Dave Hauch www.rc-builds.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: [RCSE] If you were watching the Olympic Beach Volley Ball tonite... Toward the end of the first set, the did a feature on the sand...and showed two of my little radio controlled beach cleaners...about 5mins on world TVcool stuff ! :-) Gordy North Jersey for a contest this weekend -- Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.
Re: [RCSE] If you were watching the Olympic Beach Volley Ball tonite...
I saw that and was wondering if they were your machines. I was telling a friend about you job. Very tough, but somebody has to do it. DArwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ On Aug 15, 2008, at 7:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toward the end of the first set, the did a feature on the sand...and showed two of my little radio controlled beach cleaners...about 5mins on world TVcool stuff ! :-) Gordy North Jersey for a contest this weekend Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.
Re: [RCSE] GLASS website
I just found out that GLASS has a new website. http://www.glassrc.org/ Dennis Hoyle WMSS - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: [RCSE] GLASS website Anybody know what happened to the GLASS website??? Joe Proud owner of three flying Falcon 880's One of Four Super Esprit Pilots LSF Level I Thermal Rider - The Original Nostalgia Pages Home of the Gentle Giants of Days Gone Bye. http://www.thermalrider.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight
A champion will recognize a champions deed Well said, we where all in ahhh about Peter's performance!!! Peter B -Original message- From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:48:31 -0400 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect...and Peter Goldsmith was piloting. I said to Cody I think he just fluttered an elevator...yep...I see flaps going in and out. And this was a National Championship flight, last round, and Peter was sniffing around a top spot. It's the last round thing which all competitors know all to well. The air was no gimme, with 30% of the flight times not being achieved. After Cody landed I said, I've got to watch this. This appears to be a REAL championship flight! Pilots in Peters group were not happy, many falling out, yet here he was and his PERFECT ...appearing to be guiding this object...barely in control...flaps going in, flaps going out...oddly circling..appering to have half flap in all the time...you know...no elevator, hunting, falling, rising...maybe 5%-10% control! No one on the ground knew what was really wrong he had actually blown out on the over zealous launch and was hitting a well timed thermal, the elevator servo, and BOTH aileron servos... yet I heard the beep, beep, beep of Peters digital trims being pushed to the max, trying to urge the PERFECT to do its job. So here was the PERFECT, coming up to 9 minutes...all other competitors in his group had fallen from the sky, and Goldsmith was inventing a new class...F.R.FLAP RUDDER! And getting his time! Then it appeared there was trouble as the model kind of started galloping around the sky below 100 feet, trying to set up for landing, the controlling became more difficult...that ground thing appearing in its future, spot landing, all coming into play. Flap rudder has its limitations! No he didn't get his landing, BUT he DID land within the field boundaries, overflying the slot by 25 seconds (10:25) and qualifying the flight. Amazingly, we later found out, had WON the group! Most others would have tried to land the injured bird, and probably crashed it, but Peter hung tough, literally a National Championship position on the line, his years of aerobatic training coming into to play. As our modern day computer mixing radios were not up to the task, it was in his thumbs, his mind, and his judgment that was getting the job done. Yes, I know Daryl had a wild one with a blown out stab flapping in the breeze at the Worlds, but at least there was some assemblance of order...all servos were working! This flight secured his 3rd place overall National finish, and will be a flight remembered by all who witnessed it for a long time. When we looked over the PERFECT on the ground, the culprit was a nylon geared elevator servo that had stripped from launch pressure...the elevator kinda flopping around, and then noticing that even the control horns on the aileron servos were broken and floppingYes this was a National Championship flight. Peter was giddy after the flight, also stunned and amazed at what had just occurred. We stood there dumbfounded, looking at his wounded PERFECT, basically agreeing this can't fly. He won 3rd overall...AMAZING!!! I just had a moment to reflect on this Championship flight! Well done Peter! Skip - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect...and
Re: [RCSE] GLASS website
I talked to Richard Alban and the current club president (an electric flyer) doesn't think it's important. Dennis Hoyle WMSS - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: [RCSE] GLASS website Anybody know what happened to the GLASS website??? Joe Proud owner of three flying Falcon 880's One of Four Super Esprit Pilots LSF Level I Thermal Rider - The Original Nostalgia Pages Home of the Gentle Giants of Days Gone Bye. http://www.thermalrider.com
Re: [RCSE] RE: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERS....Early!
August 31 postmark is the drop-dead date. tk --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] RE: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 10:35 AM Yes, the Turkish group is coming. They are also going to drag that German guy Philip what's his name who just won Holland Glide David Hobby from down under is expected to show as well. A real strong line-up. Where oh where is DP? I didn't see his name on the list? Ben Wilson, I am awaiting your entry too. Jim McCarthy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:49 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim McCarthy Subject: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! Hi guys, I have it on bad authority that those guys who sign up at the last minute will get better fitting T shirts! The goal is 100 (you know like the movie 400...but less). There are about 80 spots left. The top Turks are coming, it would be great to get Jojo back but we'd need to get him an airline ticket I think. Might have some Aussies, Canadians, and even some guys from Illinios. Sorry the top Olympic Volley Beach Volley Ball team is already committed elsewhere so its for surethey won't be there. :-( So here's the dealif you haven't signed up yet, get your registration in! Jim McCarthy is dying to get the registration done and locked...so help him out. Be warned you will be flying against Louisville Soaring phenom, little Lee! (yes he is already signed up!) Contact Jim McCarthy directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] via email if not with your registration, at least to let him know you ARE indeed attending. That will help him and organizers make plans, they want this one to be everything a Masters event can be! Get away from the television and post him a note! See you there! Gordy Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut0005000 017 . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] RE: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERS....Early!
So if Gordy signs up on the 31st will he drop dead? : ) - Original Message - From: Tom Kallevang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com; Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! August 31 postmark is the drop-dead date. tk --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] RE: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 10:35 AM Yes, the Turkish group is coming. They are also going to drag that German guy Philip what's his name who just won Holland Glide David Hobby from down under is expected to show as well. A real strong line-up. Where oh where is DP? I didn't see his name on the list? Ben Wilson, I am awaiting your entry too. Jim McCarthy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:49 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim McCarthy Subject: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! Hi guys, I have it on bad authority that those guys who sign up at the last minute will get better fitting T shirts! The goal is 100 (you know like the movie 400...but less). There are about 80 spots left. The top Turks are coming, it would be great to get Jojo back but we'd need to get him an airline ticket I think. Might have some Aussies, Canadians, and even some guys from Illinios. Sorry the top Olympic Volley Beach Volley Ball team is already committed elsewhere so its for surethey won't be there. :-( So here's the dealif you haven't signed up yet, get your registration in! Jim McCarthy is dying to get the registration done and locked...so help him out. Be warned you will be flying against Louisville Soaring phenom, little Lee! (yes he is already signed up!) Contact Jim McCarthy directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] via email if not with your registration, at least to let him know you ARE indeed attending. That will help him and organizers make plans, they want this one to be everything a Masters event can be! Get away from the television and post him a note! See you there! Gordy Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut0005000 017 . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Re: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight
Great story Skip. Thanks for sharing. Kevin Andersen - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect...and Peter Goldsmith was piloting. I said to Cody I think he just fluttered an elevator...yep...I see flaps going in and out. And this was a National Championship flight, last round, and Peter was sniffing around a top spot. It's the last round thing which all competitors know all to well. The air was no gimme, with 30% of the flight times not being achieved. After Cody landed I said, I've got to watch this. This appears to be a REAL championship flight! Pilots in Peters group were not happy, many falling out, yet here he was and his PERFECT ...appearing to be guiding this object...barely in control...flaps going in, flaps going out...oddly circling..appering to have half flap in all the time...you know...no elevator, hunting, falling, rising...maybe 5%-10% control! No one on the ground knew what was really wrong he had actually blown out on the over zealous launch and was hitting a well timed thermal, the elevator servo, and BOTH aileron servos... yet I heard the beep, beep, beep of Peters digital trims being pushed to the max, trying to urge the PERFECT to do its job. So here was the PERFECT, coming up to 9 minutes...all other competitors in his group had fallen from the sky, and Goldsmith was inventing a new class...F.R.FLAP RUDDER! And getting his time! Then it appeared there was trouble as the model kind of started galloping around the sky below 100 feet, trying to set up for landing, the controlling became more difficult...that ground thing appearing in its future, spot landing, all coming into play. Flap rudder has its limitations! No he didn't get his landing, BUT he DID land within the field boundaries, overflying the slot by 25 seconds (10:25) and qualifying the flight. Amazingly, we later found out, had WON the group! Most others would have tried to land the injured bird, and probably crashed it, but Peter hung tough, literally a National Championship position on the line, his years of aerobatic training coming into to play. As our modern day computer mixing radios were not up to the task, it was in his thumbs, his mind, and his judgment that was getting the job done. Yes, I know Daryl had a wild one with a blown out stab flapping in the breeze at the Worlds, but at least there was some assemblance of order...all servos were working! This flight secured his 3rd place overall National finish, and will be a flight remembered by all who witnessed it for a long time. When we looked over the PERFECT on the ground, the culprit was a nylon geared elevator servo that had stripped from launch pressure...the elevator kinda flopping around, and then noticing that even the control horns on the aileron servos were broken and floppingYes this was a National Championship flight. Peter was giddy after the flight, also stunned and amazed at what had just occurred. We stood there dumbfounded, looking at his wounded PERFECT, basically agreeing this can't fly. He won 3rd overall...AMAZING!!! I just had a moment to reflect on this Championship flight! Well done Peter! Skip - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect...and Peter Goldsmith was piloting. I said to Cody I think he just fluttered an elevator...yep...I see flaps going in and out. And this was a National Championship
Re: [RCSE] DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERS....Early!
Gordy, Have you signed up, or are you waiting for the last minute? On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I have it on bad authority that those guys who sign up at the last minute will get better fitting T shirts! The goal is 100 (you know like the movie 400...but less). There are about 80 spots left. The top Turks are coming, it would be great to get Jojo back but we'd need to get him an airline ticket I think. Might have some Aussies, Canadians, and even some guys from Illinios. Sorry the top Olympic Volley Beach Volley Ball team is already committed elsewhere so its for surethey won't be there. :-( So here's the dealif you haven't signed up yet, get your registration in! Jim McCarthy is dying to get the registration done and locked...so help him out. Be warned you will be flying against Louisville Soaring phenom, little Lee! (yes he is already signed up!) Contact Jim McCarthy directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] via email if not with your registration, at least to let him know you ARE indeed attending. That will help him and organizers make plans, they want this one to be everything a Masters event can be! Get away from the television and post him a note! See you there! Gordy -- Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autoshttp://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 . -- Steve Schneider Buffalo Grove, IL SOAR Club
Re: [RCSE] DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERS....Early!
Gordy's #53: http://worldsoaringmasters.com/world-rc-soaring-contest/2008-pilot-roster.shtml Dennis Hoyle WMSS AMA# SNut - Original Message - From: Steve Schneider To: RCSE Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! Gordy, Have you signed up, or are you waiting for the last minute? On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I have it on bad authority that those guys who sign up at the last minute will get better fitting T shirts! The goal is 100 (you know like the movie 400...but less). There are about 80 spots left. The top Turks are coming, it would be great to get Jojo back but we'd need to get him an airline ticket I think. Might have some Aussies, Canadians, and even some guys from Illinios. Sorry the top Olympic Volley Beach Volley Ball team is already committed elsewhere so its for surethey won't be there. :-( So here's the dealif you haven't signed up yet, get your registration in! Jim McCarthy is dying to get the registration done and locked...so help him out. Be warned you will be flying against Louisville Soaring phenom, little Lee! (yes he is already signed up!) Contact Jim McCarthy directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] via email if not with your registration, at least to let him know you ARE indeed attending. That will help him and organizers make plans, they want this one to be everything a Masters event can be! Get away from the television and post him a note! See you there! Gordy Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. -- Steve Schneider Buffalo Grove, IL SOAR Club
RE: [RCSE] DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERS....Early!
Is that a prediction of Gordy's final standing? Kurt
Re: [RCSE] Re: I have a Challenge for JR/Spectrum DSM Radios!..reply
Jack, I am interested, as well. the 4K has it over anything, even the 3030. it scares me a little to scab futuba equipment on the the mpx base, I suppose that electrons are just electrons. Its a shame that Hi-tech can not see the forest, I am flying a JR 9303, and am reasonably satisfied with it, on 72, HAve you talked to ernie about a total conversion to 2.4 to deal with any latency? Later CJ -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: Jack Iafret [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who mastered the Profi 4000, there does not seem to be anything comparable out there and some of us are so reluctant to change to any of the other radios (knowing the 4K will be dead soon due to lack of parts and support from Hitech) that a group has started designing and building a replacement that will have open source code, and anything mentioned here plus more. Before you ask, it will be a long time in coming as it is just a hobby design/build at this time. If any of you serious coders out there want a crack at coding the OP system, we are looking for your talent. It will probably start out as a kit build with completed boards and a new case (like a pizza box but smaller). It will do all the 4K will do and more but the programming logic will probably remain the same, ie. no need for templates and you assign what you want where you want it. I have two 4K's and just converted one to 2.4 using a Spektrum Futaba module (several have done this before and it seems to work fine so far). I used the 2.4 in Nostalgia at the Nat's this year and it performed just fine as far away as I could ever want to fly. I will add a couple of more planes to the 2.4 that are not serious moldies and build confidence slowly. No I do not know about the increased latency yet because a Paragon would not be a good test but it seems to be flying the same as before, like a Paragon. Jack On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:45 PM, SteveR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gordy, if you were flying more complex scale sailplanes requiring upwards of 14 channels, you might better appreciate the flexibility and ease of programming that open programming offers. It ain't for everyone. AERF sailplanes have far simplier radio requirements. I just came back from flying in Europe. The top scale sailplane guys there are moving over to Futaba FX-30 and FX-40 radios as they are the only 14 channel radios around, feature the closest thing to MPX open programming and the 2.4 implementation does not require the kluge of multiple receivers. Different strokes for different folks, Steve -- SteveR SteveR's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=7591 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=904850 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Jack Iafret Home and Hobbies ---BeginMessage--- For those who mastered the Profi 4000, there does not seem to be anything comparable out there and some of us are so reluctant to change to any of the other radios (knowing the 4K will be dead soon due to lack of parts and support from Hitech) that a group has started designing and building a replacement that will have open source code, and anything mentioned here plus more. Before you ask, it will be a long time in coming as it is just a hobby design/build at this time. If any of you serious coders out there want a crack at coding the OP system, we are looking for your talent.It will probably start out as a kit build with completed boards and a new case (like a pizza box but smaller). It will do all the 4K will do and more but the programming logic will probably remain the same, ie. no need for templates and you assign what you want where you want it. I have two 4Ks and just converted one to 2.4 using a Spektrum Futaba module (several have done this before and it seems to work fine so far). I used the 2.4 in Nostalgia at the Nats this year and it performed just fine as far away as I could ever want to fly. I will add a couple of more planes to the 2.4 that are not serious moldies and build confidence slowly. No I do not know about the increased latency yet because a Paragon would not be a good test but it seems to be flying the same as before, like a Paragon. JackOn Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:45 PM, SteveR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gordy, if you were flying more complex scale sailplanes requiring upwards of 14 channels, you might better appreciate the flexibility and ease of programming that open
