Re: [RCSE] casting lead
Just make sure you keep it below the boiling point, 1740.0 °C, and it will be safe. I quote http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/phys/lead.htm There is no risk at all in handling lead metal. It cannot be absorbed through the skin or the respiratory tract. It's on the Internet it must be true. :-) Steve Meyer SOAR, LSF IV At 09:27 AM 1/23/2006, JIM EALY wrote: Hello: As you will hear from others, lead fumes are really bad news. If you must, do it only outdoors and that is not fair to your neighbors, etc. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
You can make molds out of plaster of Paris, but you have to dry the mold completely, preferably in an oven. You know the mold is dry when it becomes really light. A wet mold is heavy. If you don't dry the mold it will let off steam when you pour the lead into it and the lead will splatter. You can burn yourself seriously if it splatters on you. Anker At 09:04 AM 1/23/2006, Robert Samuels wrote: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
At 8:04 AM -0600 1/23/06, Robert Samuels wrote: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis You can melt lead in a tin can. Like a campbell soup can is good, because it was drawn out with a sheet in stead of soldered ends. Cut the top off and bend the lip to form a spout so the lead can be pour out easily. I made my mold out of 1/4 balsa wood. Use a piece of pine for the bottom and 1/4 balsa to form the sides. It can survive about 2-3 molding. Warning: pour the molten lead in slowly and get the can as close to the mold as you can. Splatter lead on bare skin can be a very unpleasant experience. Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
In a message dated 01/23/2006 8:05:09 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)?Robert Samuels ... St. Louis I made some lead "coins" for nose weight just by boring some 1 inch diameter holes into a wooden 2 x 4. The wood ended up being scorched by the torch but it contained the lead in the desired shape. It seems like your shape is simple enough that wood might work for it,if the wood blocks comprising the mold are big enough to resist igniting (or big enough not to mind having parts of their surface momentarily go up in flames before you smother them)as you focus the torch on the lead. You might want toslope the sides somewhat to facilitate removal of the lead, or you could just hack away the wood for a one time shot. I did my work on the garage floor with the door open. No laundry,towelsin the current rotation or my wife's wedding dress were used to have on hand for flame smothering duty :) Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
Hello: As you will hear from others, lead fumes are really bad news. If you must, do it only outdoors and that is not fair to your neighbors, etc. A much better way to do this if you must, is to take a piece of brass or aluminum tubing the same size as the stick of butter you want. Fill the tube with the very smallest sized lead shot (#9 bird shot) you can buy at a hunting store - 25 pound bags: ca. $13- $18. Place a thick layer of 5 min epoxy on one end. Let it set up, turn the tube over and place a another layer of epoxy on the other end. You can latter remove (or add) some of the shot by drilling a hole in the side of the tube to let it drain out into a container. Close with tape. There are other metals that can be uses, tungsten for one, but more expensive than lead. I've used this method for nose weight, fill the nose with the amount of lead shot you need, coat with a thick layer of epoxy, STOPS any harmful vapors. Drill a hole for changing amount, close hole with 1/4 inch button nylon bolt. regards, Jim On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:04:55 +, Robert Samuels wrote: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Ealy Education by Demonstration RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
Hey now, Sure thing, you'll need a pair of work gloves, safety glasses or better face shield, cheap sauce pan (from Good will), and a coffee can filled with sand. Weigh the lead out and put it in the cheap pan (don't *ever* use the wife's good pots, *I* know...). Wet the sand and fill the coffee can, carve out a space in the sand to the shape you want, pack it down *hard*. Heat the lead till moulten and *carefuly* pour it in the mold, be *very* careful and keep your face away from the can as the lead can spatter when it hits the damp sand. Pour till full and let it sit for ten minutes. As the lead cools it'll make a divit in the center of the pour, heat some more lead and fill the divit. allow to cool over night and dump out the can. Clean up the *toxic* mess (toss the sand and pot or store in sealed plastic bags). RobII *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erica Frank Rob Carter II I believe in nothing; everything is sacred. I believe in everything; nothing is sacred. --The Chink On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Robert Samuels wrote: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ? get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] casting lead
Hello, I have made several molds for lead using the old fashion sand casting method. I prefer silica sand as its very fine and packs smooth. Cut your butter block shape out of wood or even foam. Use a small box for packing your sand in. Wet the sand just enough so it holds it's shape and add about 1 inch in the bottom of your box. Put your butter block in the center and pack more damp sand around it. Carefully pull out the block and your ready to pour. I would still pour slowly but I found since the sand it wet there is no spatter. Good Luck, Andy AKA Glidernut -Original Message- From: JIM EALY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:28 AM To: Robert Samuels Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] casting lead Hello: As you will hear from others, lead fumes are really bad news. If you must, do it only outdoors and that is not fair to your neighbors, etc. A much better way to do this if you must, is to take a piece of brass or aluminum tubing the same size as the stick of butter you want. Fill the tube with the very smallest sized lead shot (#9 bird shot) you can buy at a hunting store - 25 pound bags: ca. $13- $18. Place a thick layer of 5 min epoxy on one end. Let it set up, turn the tube over and place a another layer of epoxy on the other end. You can latter remove (or add) some of the shot by drilling a hole in the side of the tube to let it drain out into a container. Close with tape. There are other metals that can be uses, tungsten for one, but more expensive than lead. I've used this method for nose weight, fill the nose with the amount of lead shot you need, coat with a thick layer of epoxy, STOPS any harmful vapors. Drill a hole for changing amount, close hole with 1/4 inch button nylon bolt. regards, Jim On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:04:55 +, Robert Samuels wrote: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Ealy Education by Demonstration RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
I just fill small poly bags will shot. You can put them almost anywhere and they conform to the different shaped spaces well. Just tape in or stuff in some foam to hold in place. Easy to add or subtact shot. T - Original Message - From: JIM EALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] casting lead Hello: As you will hear from others, lead fumes are really bad news. If you must, do it only outdoors and that is not fair to your neighbors, etc. A much better way to do this if you must, is to take a piece of brass or aluminum tubing the same size as the stick of butter you want. Fill the tube with the very smallest sized lead shot (#9 bird shot) you can buy at a hunting store - 25 pound bags: ca. $13- $18. Place a thick layer of 5 min epoxy on one end. Let it set up, turn the tube over and place a another layer of epoxy on the other end. You can latter remove (or add) some of the shot by drilling a hole in the side of the tube to let it drain out into a container. Close with tape. There are other metals that can be uses, tungsten for one, but more expensive than lead. I've used this method for nose weight, fill the nose with the amount of lead shot you need, coat with a thick layer of epoxy, STOPS any harmful vapors. Drill a hole for changing amount, close hole with 1/4 inch button nylon bolt. regards, Jim On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:04:55 +, Robert Samuels wrote: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Ealy Education by Demonstration RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] casting lead
To melt lead I use an old coffee can with the top bent into a spout and a coleman stove. I do it outside where the better half will not complain (much).. I use a pair of vice grips (and gloves) to handle the can. Mark -Original Message- From: Robert Samuels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:05 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] casting lead I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)? Robert Samuels ... St. Louis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
My God, are you guys hallucinating? Calm down and take a deep breath! Sure lead is toxic if you get it into the body but dangerous fumes are only produced if you boil it. We are just melting amounts under 10 pounds here! I read about encapsulating it in epoxy and that is fine but you guys are making it sound like you can get poisoned by bad air or something. The bad air comes from the epoxy! This isn't a religion and it's not something evil, it's just another useful metal for people with a smidgen of common sense to use. After all, we are not eating it or sticking our nose in the pot, are we? It is probably less dangerous than the results of your last burrito in a closed vehicle and certainly less dangerous than the mercury amalgam fillings in your teeth. So don't eat it, lick it and please wash your hands before you smoke that cigar and you and your neighbors will be perfectly safe. Millions of lead bullet casters have been doing this for ages in perfect safety. It's just another useful tool we use if the proper precautions are taken. Incidentally, there is one major risk to be watchful of. No moisture should EVER come in contact with the molten lead. One small drop of sweat from your brow falls into the pot it will demonstrate just how powerful a steam explosion can be as it plates you and your surrounding area with lead foil. We were wearing safety glasses, weren't we? Contrary to some reports I've read, unless you are melting an iron bathtub full for the keel of your sailboat, it is seldom more that a real eye-opener and very messy. It's happens way too fast to blink and the foil sticks to everything like spray paint. So, know your limitations and use some common sense and you should be fine. Nobody is forced to play with it if they don't want to but a little intelligent thought is a useful commodity, hearsay and old wives tales are not. Dennis in NH and yes I have been tested for lead in my system and no there is none. Hello: As you will hear from others, lead fumes are really bad news. If you must, do it only outdoors and that is not fair to your neighbors, etc. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
Hello: Thanks for mentioning that wet sand and hot lead are no fun I could not believe the use of wet sand - go to foundry and see if they use wet sand when they pour steel HOWEVER: No, we are not hallucinating -- no lead gasoline is a real reaction to the number of children who are mentally retarded because of lead fumes. You DO NOT have to BOIL lead to have vapors! It is called vapor pressure. Ice has vapor pressure, not just liquid warter, Hell that's called humidity! So do solid and liquid lead. Eating lead is not nearly as toxic as the vapor, if you eat too much you'll barf. You have to remove lead paint from old home to sell them. I am not anymore happy with the Safety Police and OSHA then the next chemist - they ruined most of my fun experiments and research - but lead is really bad for little kids. You can check all of my gentle claims on any lead website, gov regulations, etc. regards, Jim On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:55:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My God, are you guys hallucinating? Calm down and take a deep breath! Sure lead is toxic if you get it into the body but dangerous fumes are only produced if you boil it. We are just melting amounts under 10 pounds here! I read about encapsulating it in epoxy and that is fine but you guys are making it sound like you can get poisoned by bad air or something. The bad air comes from the epoxy! This isn't a religion and it's not something evil, it's just another useful metal for people with a smidgen of common sense to use. After all, we are not eating it or sticking our nose in the pot, are we? It is probably less dangerous than the results of your last burrito in a closed vehicle and certainly less dangerous than the mercury amalgam fillings in your teeth. So don't eat it, lick it and please wash your hands before you smoke that cigar and you and your neighbors will be perfectly safe. Millions of lead bullet casters have been doing this for ages in perfect safety. It's just another useful tool we use if the proper precautions are taken. Incidentally, there is one major risk to be watchful of. No moisture should EVER come in contact with the molten lead. One small drop of sweat from your brow falls into the pot it will demonstrate just how powerful a steam explosion can be as it plates you and your surrounding area with lead foil. We were wearing safety glasses, weren't we? Contrary to some reports I've read, unless you are melting an iron bathtub full for the keel of your sailboat, it is seldom more that a real eye-opener and very messy. It's happens way too fast to blink and the foil sticks to everything like spray paint. So, know your limitations and use some common sense and you should be fine. Nobody is forced to play with it if they don't want to but a little intelligent thought is a useful commodity, hearsay and old wives tales are not. Dennis in NH and yes I have been tested for lead in my system and no there is none. Hello: As you will hear from others, lead fumes are really bad news. If you must, do it only outdoors and that is not fair to your neighbors, etc. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Ealy Education by Demonstration RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
JIM EALY wrote:...lead is really bad for little kids I don't doubt it for a moment. I am sure that if had not spent so much time casting lead soldiers as a little kid I would be much better off today. For sure. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
I always thought it was due to children chewing on toys, their crib and items around the house that were painted with lead based paint. They exhumed some lost explorers and determined that their death was caused from lead poisoning. They were eating food from cans that were sealed with lead. No, we are not hallucinating -- no lead gasoline is a real reaction to the number of children who are mentally retarded because of lead fumes. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
I got a soldier casting set for Christmas---maybe when I was 12 or sonow 77maybe that is what is wrong with me today ?? I enjoyed the hell out of it toomade dozens.Jim - Original Message - From: David Nasatir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JIM EALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] casting lead JIM EALY wrote:...lead is really bad for little kids I don't doubt it for a moment. I am sure that if had not spent so much time casting lead soldiers as a little kid I would be much better off today. For sure. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
