RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Hsiao Ming Chia]

I should add that the steps described are not recommended and may not work as 
expected.
Modifying the ExecutablePath can redirect Send-To to launch a different 
version, but there is no guarantee that the rest of the Send-To process will 
function properly.
This is especially so if you attempt to Send-To from say 2015 to a much earlier 
version like 2013.

Thanks,
Hsiao Ming

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:12 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Actually, it seems that it doesn't work

Based on this..
...
However, Autodesk has an article about how the configuration of this stuff

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=17012833&linkID=11937425
Stephen Blair

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[  ]
22/08/2012

Other recipients: ro...@casema.nl, 
soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
[  ]
Most likely all you will do is enable the menu command, and it still won't work.
I've messed around with that stuff before.

AFAIK, you need to have the same versions of each product eg 2013 sends to 2013

Unless it that link (now pointing to a general page) wasn't the same as what 
you suggested,
so maybe it could still work.


And if it does work, it could almost be a 'secret'! Cause even after saerching 
around, everyone seemed to be saying nope! need same ver.)

+ also this from Mudbox Support
You must have an equivalent version of the other Autodesk product for the Send 
to options to be available in the File menu (for example Maya 2012 with Mudbox 
2012.)
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/mne-help/global/docs/mudbox2012/en_us/files/GUID-07F82D80-9F2F-4244-BE48-C7309179C22-56-htm.html?v=2012

But thanks for that great secret! :)


On 10/23/14 4:44, Hsiao Ming Chia wrote:

It is possible to use Send-To between different versions.

The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well.

Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory.

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012



Hope this helps.



Thanks,

Hsiao Ming

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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Jason S]

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to 
a bunch of subscribers.


Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say 
people on this list  + current SI-Community Users.

(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)

Re: Off topic but useful tip: 27" Korean WQHD (2560X1440) LEDMonitors are awesome and cheap!

[olivier jeannel]

the lg-34UM95 looks even better
res 3440*1440
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UM95-P-ultrawide-monitor

Le 21/10/2014 18:26, Manuel Huertas Marchena a écrit :

talking about monitors...
have anyone seen this one:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/monitors/lg-34UM65

I am a bit scared to buy a monitor I havent tested before...   and 
recently started to do a bit of search to replace my current monitor 
at home ( ...a very old non ips asus..) and my first choice was a dell 
u2413h, because I have used it and I know is a good monitor (I use it 
at work),  but is a bit expensive and I will need two. But then I saw 
that lg which says ips...blabla ( and its 34 inch so I can bare with 
only one instead of a dual setup)  and kinda been a bit undecided on 
the subject! not sure if someone here had used it yet..
Also I noticed that used apple cinema displays have gone a bit cheaper 
second hand on ebay..   I am evaluating all options..


cheers


-Manu





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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:26:02 +0700
Subject: Re: Off topic but useful tip: 27" Korean WQHD (2560X1440) 
LEDMonitors are awesome and cheap!

From: sku...@gmail.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

If you don't need the 27" this at least looks interesting.  It's not 
out yet, and I'd wait until the reviews are in but it's basically a 
22" widescreen Cintiq for $500 - $600 depending if you want 
multi-touch as well as pen.


http://surfaceproartist.com/blog/2014/10/11/monoprice-teases-low-cost-multi-touch-pen-display

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:56 PM, phil harbath 
mailto:phil.harb...@jamination.com>> wrote:


do people still swear by this monitor, I am finally in the market
for a 27 incher.

-Original Message- From: Ben Houston
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:50 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

Subject: Re: Off topic but useful tip: 27" Korean WQHD (2560X1440)
LEDMonitors are awesome and cheap!


Hi Leoung,

To be very specific, I bought this one:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROSSOVER-27Q-LED-P-27-DVI-PC-Computer-Monitor-2560X1440-16-9-Pivot-QHD-NEW-/170875589678

Note that the price fluctuates up and down on this listing, not sure
why that is.

I'm also in Canada and the duty was $12 per monitor and the shipping
was included.

Best regards,
-ben

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Leoung O'Young
mailto:digim...@digimata.com>> wrote:

Hi Ben,

Which seller did you buy it from?
I am in Canada, just curious how much was the duty?

Thanks,
Leoung


On 12/20/2012 8:17 AM, Ben Houston wrote:


They are IPS monitors. :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPS_panel

I should have made clear that they were $360+duty each,
not $360 for
both.  But still I find that to be a great price considering
equivalent Dell monitors are at least $600 each.

Best regards,
-ben

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Paul Griswold
mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:


Are they IPS monitors?

I'm running 2 of the HP ZR24w's right now, but two 27"
monitors is really
appealing.

-Paul


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Ben Houston
mailto:b...@exocortex.com>> wrote:


Hey all,

I know this is a bit random but I figured I should
share this
information as it surprised me.

I recently purchased two 27" Korean QHD 2560x1440
LED Monitor through
eBay for $360 Canadian + duty.  I was a bit
worried since there was a
lot of disclaimers on the purchase page about
possible dead pixels but
holy crap the monitors are amazing and I haven't
seen any dead pixels
myself.

The crispness, resolution, size and brightness is
just beautiful,
especially for an application like Softimage (or
coding) that requires
a lot of screen real-estate.  I may not actually
be more productive,
but I feel more productive and it is just a more
pleasant experience
looking at these monitors.

The specific monitors I purchased are these pivot
ones (putting one in

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Jason S]

  
  
But it would be great if the most
  important point be also be adressed,
  
          can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or
not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent
existing- licences.
  
  
  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
  non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to
  the latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same
  amount of existing licences. (-allowing- to
  -replace-/update to last one)  
  
  (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead
  for such things...)
  
  
  On 10/22/14 20:27, Jason S wrote:


  
  Can't render Mi2's, 
Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, 
can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not
you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent
existing- licences.
can't not rent,
can't, can't...

You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you.


On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote:
  
  
You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license.
  You'll need a mental ray standalone license.
  
  
  In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone
Softimage license to a Network license by paying the
difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to the network
license activation fee, and that is what the network license
activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license,
you'll get the five batch licenses automatically, so focus
on getting the reseller to answer the question: can I
upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network
license?
  
  
  
  
  
  


  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM,
Patrick Neese 
wrote:
Matt
  thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of
  the
  license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question
  whether this is
  legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with
  the software
  the MR license is through (max and maya) Section "10.1.1
  Rendering."
  I'm no lawyer.
  
  But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to
  give me a
  conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't
  want my
  money.
  
  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind 

  wrote:
  > Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should
  remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use
  anything that is unique to softimage with regards to
  shaders), then render using your maya/max license.
  >
  > Matt
  >
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
  [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
  On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
  > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  > Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?
  >
  > So I bought a Standalone license last year, before
  Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to
  figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014
  networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes.
  I found  FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my
  reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is
  what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014
  Softimage.
  >
  > I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses
  for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a
  separate computer to help speed up total render time.
  >
  > Anyone have any ideas?
  >
  > Patrick N.
  >
  

  
  

  
  


  

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Jason S]

  
  
Actually, it seems that it doesn't work
  
  Based on this..
  
  ... 
However, Autodesk has an article about how the configuration of
this stuff


http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=17012833&linkID=11937425


  
  

  

  Stephen Blair
 
  

  
  

  
 22/08/2012 
  

  


Other recipients: 
 ro...@casema.nl,
soft...@listproc.autodesk.com  


Most likely all you will do is enable the menu command, and it
still won't work.

I've messed around with that stuff before.


AFAIK, you need to have the same versions of each product eg
2013 sends to 2013



  
  Unless it that link (now pointing to a general page) wasn't the
  same as what you suggested, 
  so maybe it could still work.
  
  
  And if it does work, it could almost be a 'secret'! Cause even
  after saerching around, everyone seemed to be saying nope! need
  same ver.)
  
  + also this from Mudbox Support
  You must have an equivalent version of the
  other Autodesk product for the Send to
  options to be available in the File
  menu (for example Maya 2012 with Mudbox 2012.) 
  
  http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/mne-help/global/docs/mudbox2012/en_us/files/GUID-07F82D80-9F2F-4244-BE48-C7309179C22-56-htm.html?v=2012
  
  But thanks for that great secret! :)
  
  
  On 10/23/14 4:44, Hsiao Ming Chia wrote:


  It is possible to use Send-To between different versions.
The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well.
Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory.
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Hsiao Ming



  

Import huge number of objects

[Ivan Vasiljevic]

Hi,

Is there a smart way to import huge number of objects in xsi. Dunno exact 
number but it's not loading alembic nor fbx even after an hour and a half...

Softimage 2014sp2

Cheers. 
Ivan

Sent from my iPhone

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Jason S]

Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese  wrote:

The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.

I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
something else.

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese  wrote:
> The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
> and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
> shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
> I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
> have to buy more from Autodesk.

I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
something else.

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Patrick Neese]

This is long...TL;DR at the bottom

So, I'm using mental ray because it came with Softimage, it is well
established and adding 5 batch render node licenses was supposed to be
cheap. 3rd party renders all seem to lack some feature and are as
expensive as the 5 batch render node upgrade.  Mental ray standalone
is ~$850 a seat.

I have called several re-sellers, I have called Autodesk they didn't
know anything and referred me to resellers.  Resellers are a joke most
of the time, no one knows anything in the complicated Autodesk world.
I was even told I had to find a local reseller by another reseller...I
emailed Autodesk...they just closed the question apparently. I didn't
even get a response, just a request to review my CS experience.

My history with Softimage:

I started learning XSI/Softimage in college when it was AVID based...I
bought a student license...then Autodesk bought it...then I couldn't
get support for my dongle that would stop working randomly for my
student edition to keep learning on it.

I finally wanted to start using it for some vfx on online shorts so I
went to upgrade...Nope...can't upgrade.
I was still a student...and a reseller advised me to buy the current
student package and upgrade...(prior to the free online
stuff)...bought it...Nope Softimage didn't have an upgrade path like
that anymore...even though it was on a catalog my re-seller had and
said maya apparently did still have this path since you could buy it
buy its self.

Years later...I had saved enough to finally buy it
outright...foolishly cashed in some investments. Bought it...and then
found out I could get a discount and the ultimate bundle upgrade with
motionbuilder, mudbox etc for "cheap"credit card debit for a
little while sure...~5 months later...they killed Softimage.

Where I'm at now:
So now I have a little money saved to buy a network upgrade for just
Softimage: ~$920...but...I upgraded to Ultimate...so now I have to buy
an upgrade for ALL of them to network not just Softimage: ~$1800.  If
I were a company and making money...that's not a terrible price. But,
I'm paying more for software that is killed and couldn't possibly lead
me to a new career in 3d...

Reseller says that is still an option and checked with my serial. I
don't need network upgrade for the full bundle...and I can't/won't
afford that. I don't like maya and max now on the principle of the
Autodesk buy out and kill process.  I'm probably never going to do
this as a job so it's hard to justify another 1800 for some project
that will get posted online and lead to nothing, but the cost of
renting server time for a small project was the same as just buying 5
nodes.  How is it i paid around $200 for max(broken apart) in the
bundle...but I get unlimited mental ray licenses...yet for Softimage
at $2500 or whatever it was i get one node locked license...

The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.

I wish companies ending their usage of Softimage could transfer a
license with render nodes...but 2nd hand software is illegal because
it's a license...even if the software is discontinued...

TL;DR I've spent lots of money over the years trying to be a
hobbyist...Can't upgrade a single product from the Ultimate bundle to
network license.  Reseller says use 3dsmax backburner for mental ray
rendering of MI2 files.  Resellers mostly don't know what is going on.
Autodesk CS doesn't know what's going on. I should learn Blender.


On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau  wrote:
> Mental ray standalone from Autodesk has come with the Softimage
> shaders for years.
> It renders mi2 from Max, Maya, Softimage. There is only one kind of
> mental ray standalone license.
> The batch licenses you get with the app are to run xsibatch or
> mayabatch, etc., it is not to run ray.exe
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
>> Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format.  As long as there 
>> are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you 
>> send to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of 
>> because at that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data.  
>> Besides, I've never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if 
>> there were softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a 
>> different matter).
>>
>> Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx 
>> file format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using 
>> mental ray, would there be any legal problem?  I think not.  Converting to 
>> .mi2 for this purpose is no different.
>>
>> Matt
>

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

Mental ray standalone from Autodesk has come with the Softimage
shaders for years.
It renders mi2 from Max, Maya, Softimage. There is only one kind of
mental ray standalone license.
The batch licenses you get with the app are to run xsibatch or
mayabatch, etc., it is not to run ray.exe

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
> Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format.  As long as there 
> are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you 
> send to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of 
> because at that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data.  
> Besides, I've never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if 
> there were softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a 
> different matter).
>
> Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx file 
> format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using mental 
> ray, would there be any legal problem?  I think not.  Converting to .mi2 for 
> this purpose is no different.
>
> Matt

RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

[Hsiao Ming Chia]

It is possible to use Send-To between different versions.
The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well.
Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory.
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Hsiao Ming
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:27 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Can't render Mi2's,
Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions,
can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time 
user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences.
can't not rent,
can't, can't...

You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you.


On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote:
You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license. You'll need a mental ray 
standalone license.

In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone Softimage license to a 
Network license by paying the difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to 
the network license activation fee, and that is what the network license 
activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license, you'll get the 
five batch licenses automatically, so focus on getting the reseller to answer 
the question: can I upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network 
license?




On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Patrick Neese 
mailto:patrickne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Matt thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the
license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is
legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software
the MR license is through (max and maya) Section "10.1.1 Rendering."
I'm no lawyer.

But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a
conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my
money.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind 
mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com>> wrote:
> Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage 
> dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage 
> with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>  
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
>  On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?
>
> So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and 
> recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 
> 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found  
> FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller 
> do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses 
> for 2014 Softimage.
>
> I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to 
> render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render 
> time.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Patrick N.
>


<>