Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Sandy Sutherland
Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running 
houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is 
very much gaining ground.


S.

On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey guys
This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can 
move on.
My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and 
it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the 
same software.
Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft 
and Maya freelancers and studios.

Not much Houdini near where I live.
It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than 
anything else.
Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in 
Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark 
side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list 
for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place?

Thanks
G





Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
No such thing. Your best bet is a mix of cgsociety, most active Maya forum
around to date I believe, Maya beta forums (plenty invites from AD staff
here and elsewhere have been offered) and scavenging rigs and plugins (most
of which are frankly atrocious, but there are plenty gems out there).

The area is also active, but it would make a misanthropist of Gandhi.
On 7 Mar 2014 18:53, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move
 on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is
 important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and
 Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya
 (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side,
 and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us
 orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place?
 Thanks
 G




Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Gerbrand Nel
Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is 
still far from Gauteng :)


On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
very much gaining ground.

S.

On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey guys
This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
move on.
My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
same software.
Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
and Maya freelancers and studios.
Not much Houdini near where I live.
It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
anything else.
Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a
list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark
place?
Thanks
G



.





Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Marshall
A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with the
people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going
indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the
best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc?



On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is
 still far from Gauteng :)


 On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

 Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
 houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
 very much gaining ground.

 S.

 On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
 move on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
 it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
 same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
 and Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
 Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
 side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a
 list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark
 place?
 Thanks
 G


 .





-- 

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Mint Motion Limited
029 20 37 27 57
07730 533 115
www.mintmotion.co.uk


Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a
discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of
what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the
point is for people not to split up.


On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote:

 A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with
 the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going
 indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the
 best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc?



 On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is
 still far from Gauteng :)


 On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

 Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
 houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
 very much gaining ground.

 S.

 On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
 move on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
 it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
 same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
 and Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
 Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
 side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a
 list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark
 place?
 Thanks
 G


 .





 --

 Chris Marshall
 Mint Motion Limited
 029 20 37 27 57
 07730 533 115
 www.mintmotion.co.uk




Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
there is an old maya mailing list, it's the google group called maya_he3d
it's called that way because it's a migration of the highend3d.com maya
mailing list.
it's been very low volume.



On Friday, March 7, 2014, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move
 on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is
 important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and
 Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya
 (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side,
 and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us
 orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place?
 Thanks
 G




Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Sandy

Here at wits we have reached out to the places that have traditionally
used softimage to see what they were thinking of switching to. Its
interesting to hear Blackginger is also using Houdini as well as I was
under the impression it was mostly a Maya place.

Do you know any other places that are using Houdini and even Modo in their
Pipelines here in SA

Kind regards

Angus


On 2014/03/07, 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com
wrote:

Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
very much gaining ground.

S.

On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:
 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
 move on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
 it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
 same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
 and Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
 Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
 side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list
 for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place?
 Thanks
 G



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Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Angus Davidson
Anything in the shadow of the mountain is pretty much close to the moon ;)

On 2014/03/07, 12:57 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is
still far from Gauteng :)

On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:
 Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
 houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
 very much gaining ground.

 S.

 On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:
 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
 move on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
 it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
 same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
 and Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
 Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
 side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a
 list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark
 place?
 Thanks
 G


 .



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Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Alex Dorman
Hi Gerbrand

I always found this place pretty useful when needing a bit of advice in
maya, it is soup focused of course but there is some good people on there
willing to help in different areas.

http://soup-dev.websitetoolbox.com/


On 7 March 2014 12:33, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote:

 Anything in the shadow of the mountain is pretty much close to the moon ;)

 On 2014/03/07, 12:57 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is
 still far from Gauteng :)
 
 On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:
  Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
  houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
  very much gaining ground.
 
  S.
 
  On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:
  Hey guys
  This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
  move on.
  My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
  it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
  same software.
  Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
  and Maya freelancers and studios.
  Not much Houdini near where I live.
  It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
  anything else.
  Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
  Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
  So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
  side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a
  list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark
  place?
  Thanks
  G
 
 
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Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Sandy Sutherland

Hi Angus,

Blackginger do not really use Maya at all - they used to use it for 
Ncloth, but are now using Marvelous Designer.  They use Softimage for 
everything up to end of animation, where they use Houdini for VFX and 
rendering in Mantra - they have been that way for about 4 -5 years now.


We are using Maya up to animation, then we are doing the same with 
Houdini - VFX and rendering using Mantra.


I do not know anyone else doing this, and as for Modo - not sure - they 
was an ad for someone looking for Modo people, but I do not know who 
they are.


S.

On 2014/03/07 2:31 PM, Angus Davidson wrote:

Hi Sandy

Here at wits we have reached out to the places that have traditionally
used softimage to see what they were thinking of switching to. Its
interesting to hear Blackginger is also using Houdini as well as I was
under the impression it was mostly a Maya place.

Do you know any other places that are using Houdini and even Modo in their
Pipelines here in SA

Kind regards

Angus


On 2014/03/07, 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com
wrote:


Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
very much gaining ground.

S.

On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey guys
This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
move on.
My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
same software.
Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
and Maya freelancers and studios.
Not much Houdini near where I live.
It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
anything else.
Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list
for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place?
Thanks
G


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Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Gerbrand Nel
I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in the last 
few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to do this in 
maya questions here.
It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while 
identifying the body at the morgue.
Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the moment, and 
I get the feeling that people who are going towards maya are doing it 
very quietly.

So poll:
Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya questions 
here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line?
This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send those 
mails to hell :)

G

On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:
Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has 
been a discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone 
regardless of what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for 
knowledge. the point is for people not to split up.



On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com 
mailto:chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote:


A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common
with the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps
going indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software,
isn't this the best place to share our experiences, questions,
help etc?



On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com
mailto:nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being
in SA is still far from Gauteng :)


On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we
are running
houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big
way - so it is
very much gaining ground.

S.

On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey guys
This goes against my grain, but I can sit around
bitching, or I can
move on.
My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a
freelancer and
it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a
team with the
same software.
Right now the South African market has a nice
collection of both Soft
and Maya freelancers and studios.
Not much Houdini near where I live.
It stands to reason that in the future there will be
more Maya than
anything else.
Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get
really good in
Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its
fucking bugs)
So the question is: Does a mailing list like this
exist for the dark
side, and if not, will you join me in making sure
there is such a
list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it
in the dark
place?
Thanks
G


.





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Mint Motion Limited
029 20 37 27 57
07730 533 115
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Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Sandy

That¹s very helpful. I suspect I got my shops mixed up.

Kind regards

Angus

On 2014/03/07, 3:16 PM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi Angus,

Blackginger do not really use Maya at all - they used to use it for
Ncloth, but are now using Marvelous Designer.  They use Softimage for
everything up to end of animation, where they use Houdini for VFX and
rendering in Mantra - they have been that way for about 4 -5 years now.

We are using Maya up to animation, then we are doing the same with
Houdini - VFX and rendering using Mantra.

I do not know anyone else doing this, and as for Modo - not sure - they
was an ad for someone looking for Modo people, but I do not know who
they are.

S.

On 2014/03/07 2:31 PM, Angus Davidson wrote:
 Hi Sandy

 Here at wits we have reached out to the places that have traditionally
 used softimage to see what they were thinking of switching to. Its
 interesting to hear Blackginger is also using Houdini as well as I was
 under the impression it was mostly a Maya place.

 Do you know any other places that are using Houdini and even Modo in
their
 Pipelines here in SA

 Kind regards

 Angus


 On 2014/03/07, 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
 houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
 very much gaining ground.

 S.

 On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:
 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
 move on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
 it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
 same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
 and Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
 Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
 side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list
 for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place?
 Thanks
 G

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Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Sandy Sutherland
LOL - yep Cape Town - just a quick reminder G.  Gauteng doesn't have the 
number plate GP for nothing - Gangsters Paradise.


S.

On 2014/03/07 12:57 PM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:
Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA 
is still far from Gauteng :)


On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
very much gaining ground.

S.





Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Will Sharkey
The old Maya mailing list is cool but the beauty of a Softimage to Maya
list would be artists who are experienced in both Soft + Maya teaching you
where the equivalent buttons/methods are.

The 'Salvage the list' thread isn't great as its already emotionally
charged by title.

A Softimage to Maya list was made but maybe it would add to the fear of
community migration.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/softimage2maya

So a [OTMaya] tag or [TOMaya] tag sounds like a good idea. It could create
problems for new posters who aren't aware of a tagging system but nothing
to lose sleep over.











On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

  I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in the last
 few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to do this in maya
 questions here.
 It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying
 the body at the morgue.
 Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the moment, and I
 get the feeling that people who are going towards maya are doing it very
 quietly.
 So poll:
 Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya questions
 here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line?
 This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send those
 mails to hell :)
 G


 On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

 Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a
 discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of
 what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the
 point is for people not to split up.


 On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote:

 A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with
 the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going
 indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the
 best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc?



 On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is
 still far from Gauteng :)


 On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

  Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
 houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
 very much gaining ground.

 S.

 On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
 move on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
 it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
 same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
 and Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
 Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
 side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a
 list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark
 place?
 Thanks
 G


  .





  --

  Chris Marshall
  Mint Motion Limited
 029 20 37 27 57
 07730 533 115
 www.mintmotion.co.uk






Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Gerbrand Nel
Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off 
to a positive start`.-
I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my 
stupid Maya questions
Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I 
got when he taught me Soft.

So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll
so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :)
G

On 2014/03/07 03:38 PM, Will Sharkey wrote:
The old Maya mailing list is cool but the beauty of a Softimage to 
Maya list would be artists who are experienced in both Soft + Maya 
teaching you where the equivalent buttons/methods are.


The 'Salvage the list' thread isn't great as its already emotionally 
charged by title.


A Softimage to Maya list was made but maybe it would add to the fear 
of community migration.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/softimage2maya 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21forum/softimage2maya


So a [OTMaya] tag or [TOMaya] tag sounds like a good idea. It could 
create problems for new posters who aren't aware of a tagging system 
but nothing to lose sleep over.












On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com 
mailto:nagv...@gmail.com wrote:


I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in
the last few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to
do this in maya questions here.
It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while
identifying the body at the morgue.
Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the
moment, and I get the feeling that people who are going towards
maya are doing it very quietly.
So poll:
Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya
questions here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line?
This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send
those mails to hell :)
G


On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it
has been a discussion about creating a new common ground where
everyone regardless of what they have to use DCC wise can come to
share/ask for knowledge. the point is for people not to split up.


On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com
mailto:chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote:

A list, just like this list, with people who have things in
common with the people on this list, is actually *this* list?
If it keeps going indefinitely, as more of us transition to
other software, isn't this the best place to share our
experiences, questions, help etc?



On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com
mailto:nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while
being in SA is still far from Gauteng :)


On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.
 but we are running
houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a
big way - so it is
very much gaining ground.

S.

On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey guys
This goes against my grain, but I can sit around
bitching, or I can
move on.
My initial instinct says not to support AD, but
I'm a freelancer and
it is important for me to slot into a team, or
lead a team with the
same software.
Right now the South African market has a nice
collection of both Soft
and Maya freelancers and studios.
Not much Houdini near where I live.
It stands to reason that in the future there will
be more Maya than
anything else.
Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to
get really good in
Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all
its fucking bugs)
So the question is: Does a mailing list like this
exist for the dark
side, and if not, will you join me in making sure
there is such a
list for us orphans who needs to bend over and
take it in the dark
place?
Thanks
G


.





-- 


Chris Marshall
Mint Motion Limited
029 20 37 27 57
07730 533 115
www.mintmotion.co.uk http://www.mintmotion.co.uk









Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Oscar Juarez
Yeah I think asking Maya questions or houdini questions or whatever is not
such a bad idea, the community here is very helpful and important, but
let's see little by little how people feels.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off
 to a positive start`.-
 I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my
 stupid Maya questions
 Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got
 when he taught me Soft.
 So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll
 so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :)
 G


 On 2014/03/07 03:38 PM, Will Sharkey wrote:

  The old Maya mailing list is cool but the beauty of a Softimage to Maya
 list would be artists who are experienced in both Soft + Maya teaching you
 where the equivalent buttons/methods are.

  The 'Salvage the list' thread isn't great as its already emotionally
 charged by title.

  A Softimage to Maya list was made but maybe it would add to the fear of
 community migration.
  https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/softimage2maya

  So a [OTMaya] tag or [TOMaya] tag sounds like a good idea. It could
 create problems for new posters who aren't aware of a tagging system but
 nothing to lose sleep over.











 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

  I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in the
 last few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to do this in
 maya questions here.
 It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying
 the body at the morgue.
 Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the moment, and I
 get the feeling that people who are going towards maya are doing it very
 quietly.
 So poll:
 Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya questions
 here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line?
 This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send those
 mails to hell :)
 G


 On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

 Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a
 discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of
 what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the
 point is for people not to split up.


 On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote:

 A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with
 the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going
 indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the
 best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc?



 On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is
 still far from Gauteng :)


 On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:

  Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G.  but we are running
 houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is
 very much gaining ground.

 S.

 On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

 Hey guys
 This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can
 move on.
 My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and
 it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the
 same software.
 Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft
 and Maya freelancers and studios.
 Not much Houdini near where I live.
 It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than
 anything else.
 Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in
 Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs)
 So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark
 side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a
 list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark
 place?
 Thanks
 G


  .





  --

  Chris Marshall
  Mint Motion Limited
 029 20 37 27 57
 07730 533 115
 www.mintmotion.co.uk








Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a 
 positive start`.-
 I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my 
 stupid Maya questions
 Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got 
 when he taught me Soft.
 So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll
 so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :)
 G

Ok, I think you should definitely ask your questions on the Maya forum
of cgtalk, this is where everyone is.  The maya team also
participates.
There will be plenty of people experienced with XSI that can help you,
and... also of students and other people of all skill levels.


Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
btw, we can host a softimage-to-maya list, but I just think it's a
little early to be doing that.
in my opinion, a lot of people using Softimage also use Maya
occasionally, so it's beneficial to talk about Maya here - even for
the people that won't be doing that transition.  This isn't the
'anything but maya' mailing list .

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a 
 positive start`.-
 I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my 
 stupid Maya questions
 Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got 
 when he taught me Soft.
 So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll
 so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :)
 G

 Ok, I think you should definitely ask your questions on the Maya forum
 of cgtalk, this is where everyone is.  The maya team also
 participates.
 There will be plenty of people experienced with XSI that can help you,
 and... also of students and other people of all skill levels.


Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Tim Crowson
I would actually really really like that, Luc-Eric. We'll be 
transitioning to Maya here and we'll need some help translating certain 
workflows. For example... set dressing by ICE-scattering instances of 
plants everywhere... Stuff like that... Not so much the 'where's the 
Inset tool' but more 'how do I translate this workflow/solution?'


-Tim

On 3/7/2014 9:58 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

btw, we can host a softimage-to-maya list, but I just think it's a
little early to be doing that.
in my opinion, a lot of people using Softimage also use Maya
occasionally, so it's beneficial to talk about Maya here - even for
the people that won't be doing that transition.  This isn't the
'anything but maya' mailing list .

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote:

Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a 
positive start`.-
I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my stupid 
Maya questions
Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got when 
he taught me Soft.
So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll
so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :)
G

Ok, I think you should definitely ask your questions on the Maya forum
of cgtalk, this is where everyone is.  The maya team also
participates.
There will be plenty of people experienced with XSI that can help you,
and... also of students and other people of all skill levels.


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Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Jason S

On 03/07/14 8:21, Gerbrand Nel wrote:
It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while 
identifying the body at the morgue.



While it's still moving under the tight saran wrap.


Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Oscar Juarez
We have a saying in spanish, The bedsheets are still warm


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/07/14 8:21, Gerbrand Nel wrote:
 It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying
 the body at the morgue.


 While it's still moving under the tight saran wrap.



Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Jason S

On 03/07/14 11:16, Tim Crowson wrote:

This isn't the 'anything but maya' mailing list .

No, it's the official anything but ...  list


Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
I would fully endorse it and participate in it, but yes, doing it so early
would be a major PR ClusterF**k. No matter the intentions it could only be
perceived negatively and kill a good and useful effort before it starts.
Give it some time.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 btw, we can host a softimage-to-maya list, but I just think it's a
 little early to be doing that.
 in my opinion, a lot of people using Softimage also use Maya
 occasionally, so it's beneficial to talk about Maya here - even for
 the people that won't be doing that transition.  This isn't the
 'anything but maya' mailing list .




Re: A list like this one but for Maya

2014-03-07 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
The HE list back then, SGI and Alias times, was the exact equivalent of
this place. I don't think it's even worth mentioning these days though,
it's practically dead.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 there is an old maya mailing list, it's the google group called maya_he3d
 it's called that way because it's a migration of the highend3d.com maya
 mailing list.
 it's been very low volume.