Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
No such thing. Your best bet is a mix of cgsociety, most active Maya forum around to date I believe, Maya beta forums (plenty invites from AD staff here and elsewhere have been offered) and scavenging rigs and plugins (most of which are frankly atrocious, but there are plenty gems out there). The area is also active, but it would make a misanthropist of Gandhi. On 7 Mar 2014 18:53, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G .
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc? On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the point is for people not to split up. On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote: A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc? On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
there is an old maya mailing list, it's the google group called maya_he3d it's called that way because it's a migration of the highend3d.com maya mailing list. it's been very low volume. On Friday, March 7, 2014, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Hi Sandy Here at wits we have reached out to the places that have traditionally used softimage to see what they were thinking of switching to. Its interesting to hear Blackginger is also using Houdini as well as I was under the impression it was mostly a Maya place. Do you know any other places that are using Houdini and even Modo in their Pipelines here in SA Kind regards Angus On 2014/03/07, 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Anything in the shadow of the mountain is pretty much close to the moon ;) On 2014/03/07, 12:57 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Hi Gerbrand I always found this place pretty useful when needing a bit of advice in maya, it is soup focused of course but there is some good people on there willing to help in different areas. http://soup-dev.websitetoolbox.com/ On 7 March 2014 12:33, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: Anything in the shadow of the mountain is pretty much close to the moon ;) On 2014/03/07, 12:57 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Hi Angus, Blackginger do not really use Maya at all - they used to use it for Ncloth, but are now using Marvelous Designer. They use Softimage for everything up to end of animation, where they use Houdini for VFX and rendering in Mantra - they have been that way for about 4 -5 years now. We are using Maya up to animation, then we are doing the same with Houdini - VFX and rendering using Mantra. I do not know anyone else doing this, and as for Modo - not sure - they was an ad for someone looking for Modo people, but I do not know who they are. S. On 2014/03/07 2:31 PM, Angus Davidson wrote: Hi Sandy Here at wits we have reached out to the places that have traditionally used softimage to see what they were thinking of switching to. Its interesting to hear Blackginger is also using Houdini as well as I was under the impression it was mostly a Maya place. Do you know any other places that are using Houdini and even Modo in their Pipelines here in SA Kind regards Angus On 2014/03/07, 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in the last few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to do this in maya questions here. It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying the body at the morgue. Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the moment, and I get the feeling that people who are going towards maya are doing it very quietly. So poll: Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya questions here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line? This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send those mails to hell :) G On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the point is for people not to split up. On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com mailto:chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote: A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc? On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com mailto:nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk http://www.mintmotion.co.uk
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Hi Sandy That¹s very helpful. I suspect I got my shops mixed up. Kind regards Angus On 2014/03/07, 3:16 PM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Angus, Blackginger do not really use Maya at all - they used to use it for Ncloth, but are now using Marvelous Designer. They use Softimage for everything up to end of animation, where they use Houdini for VFX and rendering in Mantra - they have been that way for about 4 -5 years now. We are using Maya up to animation, then we are doing the same with Houdini - VFX and rendering using Mantra. I do not know anyone else doing this, and as for Modo - not sure - they was an ad for someone looking for Modo people, but I do not know who they are. S. On 2014/03/07 2:31 PM, Angus Davidson wrote: Hi Sandy Here at wits we have reached out to the places that have traditionally used softimage to see what they were thinking of switching to. Its interesting to hear Blackginger is also using Houdini as well as I was under the impression it was mostly a Maya place. Do you know any other places that are using Houdini and even Modo in their Pipelines here in SA Kind regards Angus On 2014/03/07, 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.mailli...@gmail.com wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
LOL - yep Cape Town - just a quick reminder G. Gauteng doesn't have the number plate GP for nothing - Gangsters Paradise. S. On 2014/03/07 12:57 PM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S.
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
The old Maya mailing list is cool but the beauty of a Softimage to Maya list would be artists who are experienced in both Soft + Maya teaching you where the equivalent buttons/methods are. The 'Salvage the list' thread isn't great as its already emotionally charged by title. A Softimage to Maya list was made but maybe it would add to the fear of community migration. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/softimage2maya So a [OTMaya] tag or [TOMaya] tag sounds like a good idea. It could create problems for new posters who aren't aware of a tagging system but nothing to lose sleep over. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in the last few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to do this in maya questions here. It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying the body at the morgue. Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the moment, and I get the feeling that people who are going towards maya are doing it very quietly. So poll: Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya questions here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line? This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send those mails to hell :) G On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the point is for people not to split up. On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote: A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc? On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a positive start`.- I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my stupid Maya questions Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got when he taught me Soft. So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :) G On 2014/03/07 03:38 PM, Will Sharkey wrote: The old Maya mailing list is cool but the beauty of a Softimage to Maya list would be artists who are experienced in both Soft + Maya teaching you where the equivalent buttons/methods are. The 'Salvage the list' thread isn't great as its already emotionally charged by title. A Softimage to Maya list was made but maybe it would add to the fear of community migration. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/softimage2maya https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21forum/softimage2maya So a [OTMaya] tag or [TOMaya] tag sounds like a good idea. It could create problems for new posters who aren't aware of a tagging system but nothing to lose sleep over. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com mailto:nagv...@gmail.com wrote: I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in the last few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to do this in maya questions here. It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying the body at the morgue. Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the moment, and I get the feeling that people who are going towards maya are doing it very quietly. So poll: Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya questions here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line? This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send those mails to hell :) G On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the point is for people not to split up. On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com mailto:chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote: A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc? On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com mailto:nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk http://www.mintmotion.co.uk
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
Yeah I think asking Maya questions or houdini questions or whatever is not such a bad idea, the community here is very helpful and important, but let's see little by little how people feels. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a positive start`.- I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my stupid Maya questions Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got when he taught me Soft. So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :) G On 2014/03/07 03:38 PM, Will Sharkey wrote: The old Maya mailing list is cool but the beauty of a Softimage to Maya list would be artists who are experienced in both Soft + Maya teaching you where the equivalent buttons/methods are. The 'Salvage the list' thread isn't great as its already emotionally charged by title. A Softimage to Maya list was made but maybe it would add to the fear of community migration. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/softimage2maya So a [OTMaya] tag or [TOMaya] tag sounds like a good idea. It could create problems for new posters who aren't aware of a tagging system but nothing to lose sleep over. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: I get what you guys are saying, but with all that's happened in the last few days, it didn't feel right to start asking how to do this in maya questions here. It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying the body at the morgue. Also, there is a strong sentiment of fuckyouautodesk at the moment, and I get the feeling that people who are going towards maya are doing it very quietly. So poll: Could we for the time being ask our how do I do this in Maya questions here with a [OTMaya] tag in the subject line? This way people who don't want to see it can set filters to send those mails to hell :) G On 2014/03/07 01:18 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote: Hey Ger there is actually a thread called salvage the list, it has been a discussion about creating a new common ground where everyone regardless of what they have to use DCC wise can come to share/ask for knowledge. the point is for people not to split up. On 7 March 2014 11:00, Chris Marshall chrismarshal...@gmail.com wrote: A list, just like this list, with people who have things in common with the people on this list, is actually *this* list? If it keeps going indefinitely, as more of us transition to other software, isn't this the best place to share our experiences, questions, help etc? On 7 March 2014 10:57, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Were are you at the moment Sandy, cause Cape-town, while being in SA is still far from Gauteng :) On 2014/03/07 11:55 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Very little worthwhile lists for the dark side G. but we are running houdini here now and Blackginger do too, in quite a big way - so it is very much gaining ground. S. On 2014/03/07 9:53 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: Hey guys This goes against my grain, but I can sit around bitching, or I can move on. My initial instinct says not to support AD, but I'm a freelancer and it is important for me to slot into a team, or lead a team with the same software. Right now the South African market has a nice collection of both Soft and Maya freelancers and studios. Not much Houdini near where I live. It stands to reason that in the future there will be more Maya than anything else. Only time will tell, but for now it can't hurt to get really good in Maya (I hear one needs to be in order to fix all its fucking bugs) So the question is: Does a mailing list like this exist for the dark side, and if not, will you join me in making sure there is such a list for us orphans who needs to bend over and take it in the dark place? Thanks G . -- Chris Marshall Mint Motion Limited 029 20 37 27 57 07730 533 115 www.mintmotion.co.uk
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a positive start`.- I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my stupid Maya questions Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got when he taught me Soft. So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :) G Ok, I think you should definitely ask your questions on the Maya forum of cgtalk, this is where everyone is. The maya team also participates. There will be plenty of people experienced with XSI that can help you, and... also of students and other people of all skill levels.
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
btw, we can host a softimage-to-maya list, but I just think it's a little early to be doing that. in my opinion, a lot of people using Softimage also use Maya occasionally, so it's beneficial to talk about Maya here - even for the people that won't be doing that transition. This isn't the 'anything but maya' mailing list . On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a positive start`.- I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my stupid Maya questions Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got when he taught me Soft. So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :) G Ok, I think you should definitely ask your questions on the Maya forum of cgtalk, this is where everyone is. The maya team also participates. There will be plenty of people experienced with XSI that can help you, and... also of students and other people of all skill levels.
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
I would actually really really like that, Luc-Eric. We'll be transitioning to Maya here and we'll need some help translating certain workflows. For example... set dressing by ICE-scattering instances of plants everywhere... Stuff like that... Not so much the 'where's the Inset tool' but more 'how do I translate this workflow/solution?' -Tim On 3/7/2014 9:58 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: btw, we can host a softimage-to-maya list, but I just think it's a little early to be doing that. in my opinion, a lot of people using Softimage also use Maya occasionally, so it's beneficial to talk about Maya here - even for the people that won't be doing that transition. This isn't the 'anything but maya' mailing list . On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Gerbrand Nel nagv...@gmail.com wrote: Well if you read the only post in the soft to maya group, we are off to a positive start`.- I like this list, but I don't want to piss you great people off with my stupid Maya questions Believe me... they will be stupid. Just ask Matt Lowery how annoying I got when he taught me Soft. So I'll wait for the outcome of this informal poll so far 2 of us likes the idea of the [OTMAYA] tag :) G Ok, I think you should definitely ask your questions on the Maya forum of cgtalk, this is where everyone is. The maya team also participates. There will be plenty of people experienced with XSI that can help you, and... also of students and other people of all skill levels. -- Signature
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
On 03/07/14 8:21, Gerbrand Nel wrote: It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying the body at the morgue. While it's still moving under the tight saran wrap.
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
We have a saying in spanish, The bedsheets are still warm On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/07/14 8:21, Gerbrand Nel wrote: It almost feels like discussing the will of a loved one while identifying the body at the morgue. While it's still moving under the tight saran wrap.
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
On 03/07/14 11:16, Tim Crowson wrote: This isn't the 'anything but maya' mailing list . No, it's the official anything but ... list
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
I would fully endorse it and participate in it, but yes, doing it so early would be a major PR ClusterF**k. No matter the intentions it could only be perceived negatively and kill a good and useful effort before it starts. Give it some time. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: btw, we can host a softimage-to-maya list, but I just think it's a little early to be doing that. in my opinion, a lot of people using Softimage also use Maya occasionally, so it's beneficial to talk about Maya here - even for the people that won't be doing that transition. This isn't the 'anything but maya' mailing list .
Re: A list like this one but for Maya
The HE list back then, SGI and Alias times, was the exact equivalent of this place. I don't think it's even worth mentioning these days though, it's practically dead. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: there is an old maya mailing list, it's the google group called maya_he3d it's called that way because it's a migration of the highend3d.com maya mailing list. it's been very low volume.