RE: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Phillip . Wells

If users make changes to the Struts code then they won't be able to use the
next release of Struts without re-implementing their changes in the new
source. As Jean-Baptiste said, surely the right way to do it is to add or
extend classes?

Of course, getting your changes added to the Struts codebase itself is a
different matter... ;-)

Phil.

-Original Message-
From: Thor Kristmundsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 December 2000 15:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Article on JavaWorld


You have a point, the article doens't make use of all of Struts feature. I
was simply trying to convey the experience I got during a recent project of
using the Struts JSP tag libraries. This project didn't lend itself to using
the rest of Struts so I had nothing to report there. IMHO the methods
presented do add value to Struts and could perhaps be incorporated. I cant
see anything inherently wrong with changing the Struts code to accomodate
these features.
Thor Kristmundsson

-Original Message-
From: Jean-Baptiste Nizet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Montag, 4. Dezember 2000 16:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Article on JavaWorld


Hi all,

I just noticed that there is an article talking about Struts on JavaWorld,
at
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2000/jw-1201-struts.html, written
by
Thor Kristmundsson, from ATG. This shows, once again, that Struts is more
and
more used and recognized in the Java community.
Unfortunately, the article, IMHO, shows exactly what should NOT be done with
Struts. The MVC pattern is broken (no real form bean, controller code in the
JSP
page, direct forwards to JSP pages, ...), the validation process of Struts
is
bypassed and re-invented, the error management is also re-invented, and this
is
done by modifying the Struts sources, instead of trying to enhancing it by
adding or extending classes.

What do you all think about it?

I personnally think that someone knowing Struts perfectly (Craig, are you
here?), should react to this article and show how all this could be done
using
Struts in a smart way, and explain what the real Struts is able to do.

JB.
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Re[2]: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Oleg V Alexeev

Hello Ted,

Tuesday, December 05, 2000, 2:41:08 PM, you wrote:

..

TH Personally, I think Thor's interfaces seem useful, and I may add his
TH patches to my own code base. 

 I think regexp validation is interesting and will be very useful..
 But there are some problems with such kind of validation code - it
 uses hard rules to process number and date values. Java already has
 i18n mechanism and it can be used to format/parse output/input values
 in form processing. With it you can specify format strings too and
 make data formatting more flexible without regexp strings.
 
 But all it about number and date formatting only. Regexp validations
 useful for such validations as phone numbers, e-mails, etc. So it is
 good addition to the struts for my mind.

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Best regards,
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RE: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Thor Kristmundsson

It would have been a good idea to ask this list first. Unfortunatly I didn't
know the list existed until a few days ago. A few weeks back I looked for
contact information on the Struts website and found an email address
reserved for "the press". I sent an email to this address asking for a phone
number of someone to talk to about the article but got no response. It even
occured to me that the project might be dead. I agree that the whole of
Struts deserves attention. Not just the tag libraries. And I'm glad to hear
that books and articles are on their way to cover the whole. I can't see
though how focusing on the tag libraries is harmful.
Thor Kristmundsson

-Original Message-
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2000 12:41
To: Struts List
Subject: RE: Article on JavaWorld


On 12/4/2000 at 4:49 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As Jean-Baptiste said, surely the right way to do it is to add or
extend classes?

Developers in the open source community have always patched code to
meet specific requirements. A prime argument for open source is the
ability to choose between patching and extending. Obviously, developers
who patch take the responsbility for applying the patch again later.
And, of course, Thor could have posted questions about his patch to the
list first. But now that the article is published 
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2000/jw-1201-struts.html ,
lets ask the questions:

"How could Struts accomplish the same result without a patch?"

and/or

"Should these patches be added to Struts?"

If alternates turn up, they could be posted somewhere as an addendum to
the article. (Or, in a followup article?) It might also be nice to see
another addendum that addressed the shortcomings Craig mentioned 
http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg00891.ht
ml .

But, let's see some code, guys.

Personally, I think Thor's interfaces seem useful, and I may add his
patches to my own code base.


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Re: Re[2]: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Ted Husted

On 12/5/2000 at 3:34 PM Oleg V Alexeev wrote:
Java already has i18n mechanism and it can be used to format/parse
output/input values
in form processing. 
 But all it about number and date formatting only. Regexp validations
 useful for such validations as phone numbers, e-mails, etc. So it is
 good addition to the struts for my mind.

Thanks, Oleg. 

Do you think Thor's Validation code could be extended to use the
standard i18n mechanism for number and date formatting, but regex for
others?


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Re: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Nizet



Thor Kristmundsson wrote:

 It would have been a good idea to ask this list first. Unfortunatly I didn't
 know the list existed until a few days ago. A few weeks back I looked for
 contact information on the Struts website and found an email address
 reserved for "the press".

If you had looked with a little more attention, you would have found the various
Struts mailing lists at the bottom of the Struts home page. It always impresses
me how technical "gurus", writing in the press about technical products, don't
even evaluate them in details.

 I sent an email to this address asking for a phone
 number of someone to talk to about the article but got no response. It even
 occured to me that the project might be dead. I agree that the whole of
 Struts deserves attention. Not just the tag libraries. And I'm glad to hear
 that books and articles are on their way to cover the whole. I can't see
 though how focusing on the tag libraries is harmful.

It's harmful because you ignore the full power of the framework and thus
reinvent the wheel. For example, Struts has a wonderful validation mechanism,
but, unfortunately, lacks some tags for displaying the validation errors in an
elegant way to the end user (the errors tag is not sufficient, IMHO). You
focused on the tag library, saw that these tags were lacking, and thus
reimplemented the whole validation mechanism. On the other hand, I know what
Struts is able to do in terms of validation and thus just implemented two
additional tags for displaying them in a more elegant way (See below for
details, if you're interested).


 Thor Kristmundsson

 -Original Message-
 From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2000 12:41
 To: Struts List
 Subject: RE: Article on JavaWorld

 On 12/4/2000 at 4:49 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   As Jean-Baptiste said, surely the right way to do it is to add or
 extend classes?

 Developers in the open source community have always patched code to
 meet specific requirements. A prime argument for open source is the
 ability to choose between patching and extending. Obviously, developers
 who patch take the responsbility for applying the patch again later.

I agree completely with all this, but I think that
1. Extending should be preferred to patching when possible
2. A product should not be patched if it already has the functionality provided
by the patch (ex: validation)


 And, of course, Thor could have posted questions about his patch to the
 list first. But now that the article is published 
 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2000/jw-1201-struts.html ,
 lets ask the questions:

 "How could Struts accomplish the same result without a patch?"

 and/or

 "Should these patches be added to Struts?"

 If alternates turn up, they could be posted somewhere as an addendum to
 the article. (Or, in a followup article?) It might also be nice to see
 another addendum that addressed the shortcomings Craig mentioned 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg00891.ht
 ml .

 But, let's see some code, guys.


Here's the doc of two tags I wrote to handle validation errors. They allow to
display a message, or an image, or anything else, just next to the field the
error is associated with, by leveraging the Struts validation mechanism. Te code
of these tags is trivial. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to implement
them ;-)

 ifErrorExists - tests if a specific error exists, for a specific property

Executes its body if a specific error is found. If name is not specified, the
tag checks if one or more errors exist for the specified property. If name is
specified, then the tag checks that the specific error exists for the specified
property. If not specified, the property defaults to the "global" property,
i.e., the tag searches for global errors, not associated with any property.

  Attribute  Description
 Should be omitted in most cases. Name of the request scope bean
 errorsName  under which a String[] object has possibly been stored. [The value
 of the org.apache.struts.Action.ERROR_KEY constant string].
name Name of the specific error to test.
  property   Name of the property the error is associated with.

ifErrorMissing - tests if a specific error exists

Executes its body if a specific error is not found.If name is not specified, the
tag checks if one or more errors exist for the specified property. If name is
specified, then the tag checks that the specific error exists for the specified
property. If not specified, the property defaults to the "global" property,
i.e., the tag searches for global errors, not associated with any property.

  Attribute  Description
 Should be omitted in most cases. Name of the request scope bean
 errorsName  under which a String[] object has possibly been stored. [The value
 of the org.apache.struts.Action.ERROR_KEY constant 

Access of application-wide declared parameters from Action/ActionForm

2000-12-05 Thread Mueller, Franz


Hello,

is there a convenient way to access the ServletContext from an Action or
from an ActionForm ?

My problem, 
 
I've declared a couple of context-param in the web.xml. 
Some of them have the meaning of beeing used as default-values in the
JSP-page. 
I have now the problem to pass this parameters/values to my ActionForm.


Thanks in advance,

fm




RE: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Lacerda, Wellington (AFIS)

What is "the full power of Struts" ?

I was misled to believe it was flexibility !

I remember seen in this list few months ago some messages about Struts being
VERY flexible in terms of usage scenarios. I can use just the MVC main
process and forget about the tag libraries.

One can use just the i18n mechanism and implement out all the other stuff.
Or the forms. 

Here where I work, Struts i18n mechanism would be happily ignored, just
because we have our own stuff. STILL it's MVC nucleus is very fine and the
validation stuff...hmm... there's this problem too: we do prefer don't use
the massive number of beans real big sites will demand from Struts. 

Who cares if you use scriptlets ? I also believe using tags massively will
reduce the complexity of a page, will enable massive reuse, a very fine
separation of roles, but...what if the company has only Java programmers as
JSP designers ? Most of these arguments are based on cultural more than
technical reasons. If a company has a culture devoted to light design more
than programming, maybe one would like to use tags to encapsulate.
Otherwise, if the environment is made of JSP freaks that use HTML mock-ups
to build applications upon, the aim would be reuse. Otherwise, if the
environment is made of Servlet freaks, who will care about JSP ???

Maybe, being a first article on Struts, it could pass a personal view more
than an "institutional", so ?

Wellington 

-Original Message-
From:   Jean-Baptiste Nizet
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   05 December 2000 15:09
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Article on JavaWorld



Thor Kristmundsson wrote:

 It would have been a good idea to ask this list first.
Unfortunatly I didn't
 know the list existed until a few days ago. A few weeks
back I looked for
 contact information on the Struts website and found an
email address
 reserved for "the press".

If you had looked with a little more attention, you would
have found the various
Struts mailing lists at the bottom of the Struts home page.
It always impresses
me how technical "gurus", writing in the press about
technical products, don't
even evaluate them in details.

 I sent an email to this address asking for a phone
 number of someone to talk to about the article but got no
response. It even
 occured to me that the project might be dead. I agree that
the whole of
 Struts deserves attention. Not just the tag libraries. And
I'm glad to hear
 that books and articles are on their way to cover the
whole. I can't see
 though how focusing on the tag libraries is harmful.

It's harmful because you ignore the full power of the
framework and thus
reinvent the wheel. For example, Struts has a wonderful
validation mechanism,
but, unfortunately, lacks some tags for displaying the
validation errors in an
elegant way to the end user (the errors tag is not
sufficient, IMHO). You
focused on the tag library, saw that these tags were
lacking, and thus
reimplemented the whole validation mechanism. On the other
hand, I know what
Struts is able to do in terms of validation and thus just
implemented two
additional tags for displaying them in a more elegant way
(See below for
details, if you're interested).


 Thor Kristmundsson

 -Original Message-
 From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2000 12:41
 To: Struts List
 Subject: RE: Article on JavaWorld

 On 12/4/2000 at 4:49 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   As Jean-Baptiste said, surely the right way to do it is
to add or
 extend classes?

 Developers in the open source community have always
patched code to
 meet specific requirements. A prime argument for open
source is the
 ability to choose between patching and extending.
Obviously, developers
 who patch take the responsbility for applying the patch
again later.

I agree completely with all this, but I think that
1. Extending should be preferred to patching when possible
2. A product should not be patched if it already has the
functionality provided
by the patch (ex: validation)


 And, of course, Thor could have posted questions about his
patch to the
 list first. But now that the article is 

Re: Re[2]: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Mike Campbell

  But all it about number and date formatting only. Regexp validations
  useful for such validations as phone numbers, e-mails, etc. So it is
  good addition to the struts for my mind.

In general, yes, but beware the trap of trying to validate email with regex's, unless 
you have a very finite, specific domain of
email addresses you're trying to validate (such as addresses from a given company).  
Regex's simply cannot handle the entire domain
of the email address space.




RE: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Ted Husted

 I can't see though how focusing on the tag libraries is harmful.

I think this is a good point, Thor. After all, the Web site does take
the trouble to indicate what you need to download just use the tag
library on its own. And as others have pointed out, the real power of
Struts is it's flexibility. Any good Java project is component based,
and you should be able to choose the components you want to use, and
replace the ones you don't. 

I'm finishing the specification of what will be my first Struts
application this week. When I get to the hard code, I will be looking
closely at your validation interface, and comparing it to the one
outlined by Jean-Baptist, and the other ideas that have come up on the
list. If I come up with a refinement, I'll be sure to let you know, in
case there is ever an expanded edtion of your article.

And, thanks again for publishing the Java World article. Every open
source projects suffers from a lack of working examples, and I hope you
will publish more on Struts in the future. There's no replacement for
real working code. 

Meanwhile, if anyone has any links to other Struts articles, or Powered
by Struts sites, I'd be very interested to see them.




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-- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
-- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506.
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Authentication question

2000-12-05 Thread Ralf Utermann

Hi all,

we are just about to start a project using Struts;
maybe I can get some hints on two things:

- authentication: 
  In many services here we rely on DCE for authentication. 
  This is also done for Web-based cgi-apps with 
  Paul Henson's mod_auth_dce for Apache. Two questions:
  - anybody knows of a DCE solution in the Java servlet/Jsp
environment? 
  - if I keep the setup with relying on this  Apache module
for authentication, what's the best method to get the
users name within the struts environment? 
What's the best method to organize access to different
actions based on the fact, that I don't need a password but
already have an authenticated user name from Apache?

- For JDBC connections and the  mysql/mm configuration, which
  is the recommended open source connection pool solution?

TIA, Ralf
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Universitätsstr.1 
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MessageResources and multipage form

2000-12-05 Thread Boulatian, Misak

Hi all,

I am new to struts. I would like to find out how to use and access
messageresources bundle if there is more than one bundle for application.
For scalability purposes we are trying to put html messages in one bundle
and error messages into another. Would this work? For large scale project as
ours (stock market trading application) single resource bundle can be very
large which I believe would hurt scalability and performance. Let me know if
this is an incorrect assumption. Does anybody have other ideas about how to
do this in struts way (making sure that errors and message tags work).

How can I create multiform (collect data, preview, and confirm, or wizard
like) action. It would be nice if struts had small examples of each of this
type of problems. It would have been very beneficial and productive for
newcomers like me. Please let me know if anyone has any ideas.

Thanks for your help,
Misak Boulatian
Vantra Group, Inc.



RE: CLASSPATH problems (I think)

2000-12-05 Thread Eyassu, Daniel

I don't use TOMCAT, but at least in Weblogic there is a properties file that
maps web application to specific directories. I would think TOMCAT should
have a config file that contains similar mappings.

-Original Message-
From: De Smet Koen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:48 AM
To: Struts Mailinglist (E-mail)
Subject: CLASSPATH problems (I think)


Hello,

I've posted a question on this last week and finally found the solution
myself, but there's still something wrong in my configuration somewhere and
I still have some questions.

The problem is that the files under the webapps/project/WEB-INF/lib are not
found. 

It's obvious that the problem has something to do with the CLASSPATH.

A solution for all this could be to manually add each path, .jar, ... in the
OS Classpath, but I don't think this is a good solution. Don't think it's a
good idea to change the CLASSPATH manually each time you create an
application. I suppose TOMCAT should know at startup to add for each webapp
the lib directory to the CLASSPATH.  Why are those directories and files not
recognized?

Also when I try to access a package
webapps/project/WEB-INF/classes/prog/package2 from a Java file in
webapps/project/WEB-INF/classes/prog/package1 (import prog.package2.*), an
error occurs (package prog.package2 does not exists).

I hope you can help me with this. I think that many
"Resource-bundle-related" questions can be solved the same way my problems
will be solved...


Greetings,

Koen De Smet


P.S. Is it possible to alter tomcat.bat and add the next lines? 

set _LIBJARS2=
for %%i in (%TOMCAT_HOME%\webapps\*\lib) do call
%TOMCAT_HOME%\bin\cpappend.bat %%i

set CP=%CP%%_LIBJARS2%


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Struts article in Javaworld

2000-12-05 Thread Incze Lajos

FYI: http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2000/jw-1201-struts_p.html
incze



Question about errors tag

2000-12-05 Thread Doug Ahmann

I've noticed a potential problem with the way errors are handled, and the
ErrorsTag class. I'm assuming I'm missing something. (I'm new to Struts)

Picture the following:

A jsp page, login.jsp. It has a form.
An action class, LoginAction.java.
A form class, LoginForm.java.

LoginAction does exactly what you would expect. It checks the database for
the user and password. If the user or password is invalid, it loads a
message into errors, and then calls saveErrors() in ActionBase.

The difference in what I'm doing vs. the Struts examples is that, rather
than using forward functionality to return back to login.jsp on errors, I'm
using redirect instead. I don't want the URL in the browser to be login.do.

You see the problem. Errors are stored to the request context, which is no
longer valid after the redirect, therefore the errors tag can not retrieve
the errors.

I would suggest that session context should be used for the errors tag for
cases just like this, although that causes problems as well. The problem
will be, when does it get removed from the session?

Is there another way to accomplish the same thing, without tacking the error
on to the redirect URL?

Thanks,
Doug

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Re: CommandToken

2000-12-05 Thread Robert Leland

I posted a set of struts Tags on struts-dev back in October based on
 "Web Development with Java Server Pages" Token with complete
JavaDoc documentation. I guess you could search the 'covalent ?'
web site fore the exact message and attachments.

William Jaynes wrote:

 I've been playing with adding the CommandToken functionality as described in
 the Fields/Kolb book "Web Development with Java Server Pages", but I'm not
 doing so well. In the book the setting of the command token takes place
 after the controlling servlet calls the command.execute() method (like the
 struts action.perform() method?), but before the servlet actually forwards
 to the corresponding jsp. I can't seem to find where this is in the struts
 world. My attempts so far haven't panned out.

 If anyone has implemented this I'd like to know how you did it.

 Thanks for any info, Will Jaynes

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Re: Struts on Dynamo 5.0

2000-12-05 Thread David Winterfeldt

I've looked at this more and one problem is that
Dynamo does automatic URL rewriting.  That is what is
messing up the links.  I'm trying to turn it off.

The buttons aren't showing up because the method
doEndTag() is being run, but nothing is being printed
from it.  If I call doEndTag() from doStartTag(), it
works (minus the body content).  

So the only thing left are the unexplained XML parsing
errors.  I've e-mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] with these
issues.  I may refer them to you, Craig, if they tell
me doEndTag() should work this way.

David

--- "Craig R. McClanahan"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your report, David.  See comments below.
 
 David Winterfeldt wrote:
 
  Is anyone running Struts on Dynamo 5.0?  I can't
 the
  latest build to run correctly.
 
  I've listed the errors I was getting below.  Any
 help
  would be apprectiated.
 
  David
 
  A few errors are XML errors that I assume are
 typos
  (see below).
 
  Struts.tld has the value of 'name' instead of true
 for
  the property element under textarea and password.
  Dynamo has a problem with this.  I believe this
 typo
  is also under v0.5.
 
 
 I fixed this in the "struts.tld" that will be
 included in Struts 1.0.
 
 
  I mapped the struts example to simple for the
 root.
  The links from the index.jsp are writing the link
 like
  this.
 

http://cmsnew:8840/simple/simple/editRegistration.do?action=Create
 
 
 I cannot tell for sure, but this looks like it might
 be either a Dynamo problem,
 or a problem with the way that the form:base/ tag
 works.  Could you do a View
 Source on one of the sample app pages and send it to
 me?
 
 
  Another is that the buttons don't show up for
 forms
  once I type in the URL directly.
 
 
 I would bet this is the same issue as the previous
 one.
 
 
  Parse Error at line 69 column 29: Attribute
 "validate"
  must be declared for elem
  ent type "action".
  Attribute "validate" must be declared for element
 type
  "action".
  at
 

org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.reportError(XMLParser.java:969)
 
  Parse Error at line 78 column 29: Attribute
 "validate"
  must be declared for elem
  ent type "action".
  Attribute "validate" must be declared for element
 type
  "action".
  at
 

org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.reportError(XMLParser.java:969)
 
 
 The "validate" attribute was recently added to the
 DTD entry for the "action"
 element.  Are you sure that you are using a very
 recent Struts distribution?
 
 
  Parse Error at line 135 column 17: The content of
  element type "struts-config" m
  ust match
 

"(data-source,form-beans?,global-forwards?,action-mappings?)".
  The content of element type "struts-config" must
 match
  "(data-source,form-beans?
  ,global-forwards?,action-mappings?)".
 
 
 The implication of this message is that you have
 elements in your
 struts-config.xml file that are not in the order
 specified.  Is this happening
 on the struts example app itself?  (It might also be
 related to the complaints
 about the "validate" attribute.)
 
 Craig
 
 


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RE: CLASSPATH problems (I think)

2000-12-05 Thread wvannah

The web deployment directory structure was standardized in Tomcat 3.1.  The
Tomcat 3.1 download package has a good explanation of this in the
doc/appdev
folder.  (My apologies if you already knew this - I found the writeup to be
very helpful.)




RE: Struts on Dynamo 5.0

2000-12-05 Thread Mike Kline

I am familiar with a few issues regarding Dynamo 5.0.

There may be a naming conflict since Dynamo under the covers
has a FormTag class just like struts does.  We have some prototypes
that we have been writing and ended up renaming any classes
that might have a conflict.  (e.g. CPFormTag.java).

So far this works, but we are mostly running/testing
with Tomcat right now.

Mike K.
ChannelPoint, Inc.



-Original Message-
From: David Winterfeldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Struts on Dynamo 5.0


I've looked at this more and one problem is that
Dynamo does automatic URL rewriting.  That is what is
messing up the links.  I'm trying to turn it off.

The buttons aren't showing up because the method
doEndTag() is being run, but nothing is being printed
from it.  If I call doEndTag() from doStartTag(), it
works (minus the body content).  

So the only thing left are the unexplained XML parsing
errors.  I've e-mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] with these
issues.  I may refer them to you, Craig, if they tell
me doEndTag() should work this way.

David

--- "Craig R. McClanahan"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your report, David.  See comments below.
 
 David Winterfeldt wrote:
 
  Is anyone running Struts on Dynamo 5.0?  I can't
 the
  latest build to run correctly.
 
  I've listed the errors I was getting below.  Any
 help
  would be apprectiated.
 
  David
 
  A few errors are XML errors that I assume are
 typos
  (see below).
 
  Struts.tld has the value of 'name' instead of true
 for
  the property element under textarea and password.
  Dynamo has a problem with this.  I believe this
 typo
  is also under v0.5.
 
 
 I fixed this in the "struts.tld" that will be
 included in Struts 1.0.
 
 
  I mapped the struts example to simple for the
 root.
  The links from the index.jsp are writing the link
 like
  this.
 

http://cmsnew:8840/simple/simple/editRegistration.do?action=Create
 
 
 I cannot tell for sure, but this looks like it might
 be either a Dynamo problem,
 or a problem with the way that the form:base/ tag
 works.  Could you do a View
 Source on one of the sample app pages and send it to
 me?
 
 
  Another is that the buttons don't show up for
 forms
  once I type in the URL directly.
 
 
 I would bet this is the same issue as the previous
 one.
 
 
  Parse Error at line 69 column 29: Attribute
 "validate"
  must be declared for elem
  ent type "action".
  Attribute "validate" must be declared for element
 type
  "action".
  at
 

org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.reportError(XMLParser.java:969)
 
  Parse Error at line 78 column 29: Attribute
 "validate"
  must be declared for elem
  ent type "action".
  Attribute "validate" must be declared for element
 type
  "action".
  at
 

org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.reportError(XMLParser.java:969)
 
 
 The "validate" attribute was recently added to the
 DTD entry for the "action"
 element.  Are you sure that you are using a very
 recent Struts distribution?
 
 
  Parse Error at line 135 column 17: The content of
  element type "struts-config" m
  ust match
 

"(data-source,form-beans?,global-forwards?,action-mappings?)".
  The content of element type "struts-config" must
 match
  "(data-source,form-beans?
  ,global-forwards?,action-mappings?)".
 
 
 The implication of this message is that you have
 elements in your
 struts-config.xml file that are not in the order
 specified.  Is this happening
 on the struts example app itself?  (It might also be
 related to the complaints
 about the "validate" attribute.)
 
 Craig
 
 


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Re[4]: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Oleg V Alexeev

Hello Ted,

Tuesday, December 05, 2000, 5:59:58 PM, you wrote:

TH Do you think Thor's Validation code could be extended to use the
TH standard i18n mechanism for number and date formatting, but regex for
TH others?

I found this mechanism not ideal... More useful can be model where
fields and validation rules for it defined in config file for struts
not directly in classes or in jsp pages.
There we can define separate field sections or incorporate it to the
form sections. With each field section we can define all data needed
to to validate input values.

Now I use import/export methods in form beans to converse data to/from
String values.

 public void importEntity( EntityBean value,
   HttpServletRequest request, ActionErrors errors )
   throws ServletException {}
 public EntityBean exportEntity( EntityBean value,
   HttpServletRequest request, ActionErrors errors )
   throws ServletException {}

For each time bean with data used as source to populate
form fields (with i18n support) and at save moment export method is
called to populate bean with data from form bean. All conversion
errors this mechanism stores in standart errors container. This is not
ideal. Problem is hard coded conversions. Each conversion is some
strings of code, where DateFormat or NumberFormat classes are used to
import/export values. I think that all conversion logic can be
incorporated to BeanUtils and instead of separate set/get callings
populate method with automatic values conversions on i18n basis can be
used. All rules for this conversions can be stored in struts config
file and retrieved by the digester. For example, some fields of form
are defined in struts config file and all conversions with it can be
performed by BeanUtils in automatic mode. Some count of fields has
set/get methods too, but are not defined in struts config - this
fields would be populated in old manner and can be Strings only. But
all it is a raw idea...
But there are already exists some such solutions in my pocket.. 8) One
of them - bean:format tag, which derived from bean:write tag to
support properties printing with i18n support. Number, date, time
values can be printed with it. For special cases I can specify special
format and print values in special manner. I glad to pass it to the
community.

-- 
Best regards,
 Olegmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Craig R. McClanahan

Ted Husted wrote:


 More to the point, do you have any thoughts about his AutoBean or
 Validator interfaces?


The "AutoBean" concept has been requested several times, often in the guise of
"beans with dynamic properties" so that you don't have to create a form bean
with individual getters and setters.  I'd like to explore this concept in depth
in Struts 1.1, which will give us time to make sure that a complete and coherent
set of support for such beans can be included (for example, all the custom tags
that know how to extract bean properties should now how to extract them from an
AutoBean, without the page developer having to do anything).

The "Validator" concept is interesting.  Besides the server-side format checking
that is being done here, I would also like to see the option for the form tags
to generate client-side JavaScript code (if requested) to check as many things
like this as you can on the client side, to improve the user experience.



 -T.

Craig





Re: Struts on Dynamo 5.0

2000-12-05 Thread David Winterfeldt

I can get the doEndTag() to work in Dynamo if I change
pageContext.getOut() to getPreviousOut().  

JspWriter writer = getPreviousOut();
//JspWriter writer = pageContext.getOut();

Should this cause any problems? 

David

--- David Winterfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've looked at this more and one problem is that
 Dynamo does automatic URL rewriting.  That is what
 is
 messing up the links.  I'm trying to turn it off.
 
 The buttons aren't showing up because the method
 doEndTag() is being run, but nothing is being
 printed
 from it.  If I call doEndTag() from doStartTag(), it
 works (minus the body content).  
 
 So the only thing left are the unexplained XML
 parsing
 errors.  I've e-mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] with these
 issues.  I may refer them to you, Craig, if they
 tell
 me doEndTag() should work this way.
 
 David
 
 --- "Craig R. McClanahan"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for your report, David.  See comments
 below.
  
  David Winterfeldt wrote:
  
   Is anyone running Struts on Dynamo 5.0?  I can't
  the
   latest build to run correctly.
  
   I've listed the errors I was getting below.  Any
  help
   would be apprectiated.
  
   David
  
   A few errors are XML errors that I assume are
  typos
   (see below).
  
   Struts.tld has the value of 'name' instead of
 true
  for
   the property element under textarea and
 password.
   Dynamo has a problem with this.  I believe this
  typo
   is also under v0.5.
  
  
  I fixed this in the "struts.tld" that will be
  included in Struts 1.0.
  
  
   I mapped the struts example to simple for the
  root.
   The links from the index.jsp are writing the
 link
  like
   this.
  
 

http://cmsnew:8840/simple/simple/editRegistration.do?action=Create
  
  
  I cannot tell for sure, but this looks like it
 might
  be either a Dynamo problem,
  or a problem with the way that the form:base/
 tag
  works.  Could you do a View
  Source on one of the sample app pages and send it
 to
  me?
  
  
   Another is that the buttons don't show up for
  forms
   once I type in the URL directly.
  
  
  I would bet this is the same issue as the previous
  one.
  
  
   Parse Error at line 69 column 29: Attribute
  "validate"
   must be declared for elem
   ent type "action".
   Attribute "validate" must be declared for
 element
  type
   "action".
   at
  
 

org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.reportError(XMLParser.java:969)
  
   Parse Error at line 78 column 29: Attribute
  "validate"
   must be declared for elem
   ent type "action".
   Attribute "validate" must be declared for
 element
  type
   "action".
   at
  
 

org.apache.xerces.framework.XMLParser.reportError(XMLParser.java:969)
  
  
  The "validate" attribute was recently added to the
  DTD entry for the "action"
  element.  Are you sure that you are using a very
  recent Struts distribution?
  
  
   Parse Error at line 135 column 17: The content
 of
   element type "struts-config" m
   ust match
  
 

"(data-source,form-beans?,global-forwards?,action-mappings?)".
   The content of element type "struts-config" must
  match
   "(data-source,form-beans?
   ,global-forwards?,action-mappings?)".
  
  
  The implication of this message is that you have
  elements in your
  struts-config.xml file that are not in the order
  specified.  Is this happening
  on the struts example app itself?  (It might also
 be
  related to the complaints
  about the "validate" attribute.)
  
  Craig
  
  
 
 
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Re: Authentication question

2000-12-05 Thread Craig R. McClanahan

Ralf Utermann wrote:

 Hi all,

 we are just about to start a project using Struts;
 maybe I can get some hints on two things:

 - authentication:
   In many services here we rely on DCE for authentication.
   This is also done for Web-based cgi-apps with
   Paul Henson's mod_auth_dce for Apache. Two questions:
   - anybody knows of a DCE solution in the Java servlet/Jsp
 environment?

I don't know of any off the top of my head.


   - if I keep the setup with relying on this  Apache module
 for authentication, what's the best method to get the
 users name within the struts environment?

Doesn't the username show up as the value of request.getRemoteUser()?


 What's the best method to organize access to different
 actions based on the fact, that I don't need a password but
 already have an authenticated user name from Apache?


For Tomcat, at least, the Apache connector passes on the authenticated username
as the value you receive via getRemoteUser().  This means you can base decisions
on this fact, because you receive the user identity on every request.


 - For JDBC connections and the  mysql/mm configuration, which
   is the recommended open source connection pool solution?


A very simple connection pool was added to the Struts 1.0 code base last week,
which will work across any JDBC 2.0 compatible driver.  You configure it within
the struts-config.xml file.  Any connection pool implementation that implements
the javax.sql.DataSource interface (from the JDBC 2.0 standard extention API)
can be used instead, and still receive the benefit of automatic configuration
support.

The archives of this list contains pointers to various others.


 TIA, Ralf
 --
 Ralf Utermann


Craig





Re: EJB references

2000-12-05 Thread Jim Richards


I'll be using ELB's for my application when I start building it
in a few weeks time (still in the design stage). I expect to
be using only EJBs from a action servlet, that are session
beans, and those session beans use entity beans. From previous
work I found there was too much overhead using the entity beans
directly in the generation of a html page, and you rarely
needed that direct conncetion to the database anyway.

As for the references, I'm not sure what you mean. I'll be putting
things like the JNDI and connection information into to web.xml
as startup parameters.

"Boulatian, Misak" wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 The application we design is quite large. I am still trying to figure out
 the question on EJB references. From the Craig Mcc.'s comment I could put
 those in one startup servlet. Is it a viable solution? I am going to have
 many session references. Where am I going to store those references (in
 servlet context)? How can I make those available to action classes? Or I can
 put only the handle in the servlet context and call lookup in every action
 class (any scalability problems with this approach?). I cannot believe that
 none of you worked in large applications and will not be using EJBs for
 business logic and did not go over this kind of issue.
 
 I appreciate response,
 Misak Boulatian



Re: Question about errors tag

2000-12-05 Thread Jim Richards


[big snip ...]

 Is there another way to accomplish the same thing, without tacking the error
 on to the redirect URL?

Probably not, no. I can't see where you'd store the errors. In the session
would cause problems with synchronisation, and on the redirect URL
could cause buffer problems (with more then 1024 bytes of errors).

You could store it in the session, if you used a unique identifier
to store them, and pass that identifier through to the redirected
URL.

I'd think you need to look at *why* you don't want the action URL
displayed in the first place. You could always be sneaky and use a
hidden frame to force the URL to always be the same.



Re: Nesting form inside ifParameterEquals

2000-12-05 Thread Jim Richards


You can use java script. I posted a message about this 
to the struts-dev mailing list a few days ago. I don't
have the email, but you can find it in the mail archives,
which I don't have a reference for either.



 Nikolaus Rumm wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 what I wanted to do is...
 
 struts:ifParameterEquals name="action" value="create"
struts:form action="/html/user/storeUser.do?action=create" name="userForm" 
type="com.kephera.scivent.client.participant.UserForm"
 /struts:ifParameterEquals
 struts:ifParameterEquals name="action" value="edit"
struts:form action="/html/user/storeUser.do?action=edit" name="userForm" 
type="com.kephera.scivent.client.participant.UserForm"
 /struts:ifParameterEquals
 
 However, under struts 0.5 the tag's body and thus the form tag is not evaluated, but 
the whole page is skipped. Is there a way to dynamically alter the action of a 
struts:form tag ?
 
 Regards
 
 Nikolaus



Re: CLASSPATH problems (I think)

2000-12-05 Thread Joshua Yip

I think that should be the server.xml file
- Original Message -
From: "Eyassu, Daniel" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:16 AM
Subject: RE: CLASSPATH problems (I think)


 I don't use TOMCAT, but at least in Weblogic there is a properties file
that
 maps web application to specific directories. I would think TOMCAT should
 have a config file that contains similar mappings.

 -Original Message-
 From: De Smet Koen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:48 AM
 To: Struts Mailinglist (E-mail)
 Subject: CLASSPATH problems (I think)


 Hello,

 I've posted a question on this last week and finally found the solution
 myself, but there's still something wrong in my configuration somewhere
and
 I still have some questions.

 The problem is that the files under the webapps/project/WEB-INF/lib are
not
 found.

 It's obvious that the problem has something to do with the CLASSPATH.

 A solution for all this could be to manually add each path, .jar, ... in
the
 OS Classpath, but I don't think this is a good solution. Don't think it's
a
 good idea to change the CLASSPATH manually each time you create an
 application. I suppose TOMCAT should know at startup to add for each
webapp
 the lib directory to the CLASSPATH.  Why are those directories and files
not
 recognized?

 Also when I try to access a package
 webapps/project/WEB-INF/classes/prog/package2 from a Java file in
 webapps/project/WEB-INF/classes/prog/package1 (import prog.package2.*), an
 error occurs (package prog.package2 does not exists).

 I hope you can help me with this. I think that many
 "Resource-bundle-related" questions can be solved the same way my problems
 will be solved...


 Greetings,

 Koen De Smet


 P.S. Is it possible to alter tomcat.bat and add the next lines?

 set _LIBJARS2=
 for %%i in (%TOMCAT_HOME%\webapps\*\lib) do call
 %TOMCAT_HOME%\bin\cpappend.bat %%i

 set CP=%CP%%_LIBJARS2%

 
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Re: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Jim Richards


If you're prepared to be patient, I need both of these, and
can work on them but I won't be able to start unitl January
on the development of it.

The AutoBean idea (as an idea) is something I use already
in Cold Fusion, and have done before in PL/SQL.

The client side validator, as I posted before I have a good
JavaScript validation library I can use, and am happy
for it to be included.


"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote:
 The "AutoBean" concept has been requested several times, often in the guise of
 "beans with dynamic properties" so that you don't have to create a form bean
 with individual getters and setters.  I'd like to explore this concept in depth
 in Struts 1.1, which will give us time to make sure that a complete and coherent
 set of support for such beans can be included (for example, all the custom tags
 that know how to extract bean properties should now how to extract them from an
 AutoBean, without the page developer having to do anything).
 
 The "Validator" concept is interesting.  Besides the server-side format checking
 that is being done here, I would also like to see the option for the form tags
 to generate client-side JavaScript code (if requested) to check as many things
 like this as you can on the client side, to improve the user experience.



debugging with struts/tomcat/JBuilder

2000-12-05 Thread Dan Cancro

Has anyone successfully debugged a struts 0.5 application running on Tomcat
3.2, with JBuilder 4 Foundation version?

I'm able to start Tomcat from JBuilder in debug mode, but I don't know how
to open a source file from my struts application and have it stop execution
at my breakpoints.

Thanks



Re: Article on JavaWorld

2000-12-05 Thread Dave Harms

Wellington,

 but...what if the company has only Java programmers as
 JSP designers ? Most of these arguments are based on cultural more than
 technical reasons.

There are still problems with, for example, scriptlets even in a 
situation like this. JSPs are not a particularly code-friendly 
environment. And re-use is more difficult. So I think even if the Java 
programmers are designing the pages, using scriptlets will tend to make 
life more difficult. I think these are sound technical objections. 

Dave

Dave Harms
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