Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

Richard wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? 
Just wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox 
v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil



So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a 
Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3? 
Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that 
particular disastrous version.


Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?


SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile 
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


Select Switch Profiles after opening SM 2.0, and you'll get the Profile 
Manager.  Once you have more than one, it will come up by default at launch.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Richard

Rufus wrote:

Richard wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? 
Just wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox 
v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil



So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a 
Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3? 
Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that 
particular disastrous version.


Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?


SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile 
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


Select Switch Profiles after opening SM 2.0, and you'll get the Profile 
Manager.  Once you have more than one, it will come up by default at 
launch.




I spent a week trying to recover my multiple profiles and eventually 
gave up, how can the developers of sm not see this as an issue and have 
something in the new version to take care of this? or at the very least 
warn users of this ISSUE and it is an issue, they really must be stupid.


I take it the developers are either Linux users or act like Linux users 
such egg heads that they believe they are too smart for those of us 
unable to code! Well, I have sm at multiple sites and will certainly not 
be upgrading to ver2 and if I can find an alternate multi profile system 
I will, even if it means moving to the dreaded ie engine perminantly.

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Re: Incoming mail gone

2009-11-15 Thread Daniel

Serge Popper wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:
Installed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 a couple of weeks ago and have had no 
problems until tonight.  When I started SeaMonkey, my incoming mail 
folder opened normally but was not downloading my new mail.  I 
clicked on the get messages and a little widow opened saying 
something like working on this folder, please wait.  I waited a good 
while, nothing happened. I rebooted, tried again, no luck.  I 
downloaded and reinstalled a fresh copy of SeaMonkey.  Now there are 
no messages showing at all in my inbox folder. All other functions 
work OK, all other folders are accessible, browser shows no problem.

Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks


Serge, did the original message in the window say that you cannot 
download new mail into the inbox because it was being compacted??


When you delete an email, it is not really deleted from the inbox 
file, just part of the header information is changed to make it not 
show in the list of mail in your inbox. When you File|Compact Files 
the deleted message is actually removed from the inbox file.


At times, you may get a conflict between SM trying to download mail 
and SM trying to automatically compact the inbox because of the 
setting at the bottom of the page at 
Edit|Preferences|MailNewsgroup|OfflineDisk Space.


When you have SM running, have a look at Edit|MailNewsgroup Account 
Settings and select the Server Settings part of your mail account. 
At the bottom of this screen, there is the location of the Local 
Directory. Note the location as this is where SeaMonkey thinks your 
profile is.


Close SeaMonkey, go make yourself a cuppa, then do Crtl-Alt-Delete 
and see if SeaMonkey is still showing as running. If it is, End Task 
on it.


Do a Windows Find File/Folder looking for inbox without the 
inverted commas. The inbox is the file that SeaMonkey stores your 
incoming mail in. If you find more than one inbox, your lost mail may 
be in one of the other accounts.


Report back with results and if you find other inboxes, someone here 
can tell you how to get all your mail into one location.


HTH

Daniel
Daniel, thanks for the great explanation.  I'm just recuperating from 
Swine Flu and have little energy for anything.  I'll do what you 
suggest and report back.

Again, thanks.
Serge


Daniel, I've done what you suggested above and have unearthed an 
interesting array of files when I did my search for inbox)
The location of the Local Directory is C:\DOCUMENTS AND 
SETTINGS\POPPER\APPLICATIONDATA\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com 



None of the files found in the search include the file above.
I don't know how to list the files found in the search on this email.
Thanks,
Serge


Serge, when you did the search, did you have windows set to un-hide all 
your sub-folders??


From my (failing) memory, Widows is set up to just display two levels 
of sub-folder, i.e. C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\POPPER.


If your SM is working, there MUST be files/folders at that full location.

Daniel
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Re: SM2.0 does not launch

2009-11-15 Thread wwill

Sandalin wrote:
I successfully installed SM2, but unforunately it does not launch or more 
exactly as i see in the task manager, it launches (does not open any window) 
and immediately closes.


Tried to uninstall, re-download, re-install, all the same.

Win XP SP3

PLEASE HELP !!! 





i have NEVER been able to open seamonkey 2.  ever.  i've tried it in 
beta, etc, and even now that it's out, i just can't make it GO!  i've 
even installed it after new formats and it just doesn't work.  i don't 
know if there's conflicting software or what the problem is, i just know 
it never, ever, has started for me.  on win xp or win 7.

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Re: SM2.0 does not launch

2009-11-15 Thread Bernard Mercier
Sandalin a formulé la demande :
 I successfully installed SM2, but unforunately it does not launch or more 
 exactly as i see in the task manager, it launches (does not open any window) 
 and immediately closes.

 Tried to uninstall, re-download, re-install, all the same.

 Win XP SP3

 PLEASE HELP !!! 
Not enough memory?

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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Phillip Jones schrieb:


I experienced the same thing on my Mac. I end up in this position after
I manually removing the _msf_ files to newsgroups to clean up some
strange problems (Massages being marked as read before I could get to
read them and so on.). Its a bug once this is set it should not change
for any reason unless you do so yourself



Hi,

neither deleting News.CIS.DFN.DE.msf for the group (no new one has 
been created after new Seamonkey start) neither deleting the 
name.of.newsgroup.msf files (new ones have been created after new 
Seamonkey start)healed my problem.


Rainer
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Re: opening .eml files in seamonkey mail-window

2009-11-15 Thread Gerd Ott

Barry Edwin Gilmour schrieb:

seam...@taz.de wrote:

Hi,
Does anybody know how to convince seamonkey to open .eml-files not in
the browser-, but in the mail-window?

Open via Browser-window File | Open_File = open in an existing
browser-window
Mail-window + File |Open | Saved_Message... = open in a new Mail-window


Sorry, I forgot to mention: OS is windows-XP and users want to open 
those .eml -files by doubleclicking.
Seamonkey is starting, but displaying them in the browser-window unstead 
of the mail-window.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread John Doue

Richard wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? 
Just wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox 
v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil



So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a 
Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3? 
Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that 
particular disastrous version.


Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?
Sorry for pointing to the obvious, but do you have any serious reason to 
drop SM 1.1.18? I cannot imagine why you consider yourself stuck with 
version 2. Going back to SM 1.1.18 should not be difficult, even if you 
did not save your profile before going to SM 2.0.


It will be a long while before SM 1.x is so outdated that it cannot be 
used reliably on the vast majority of sites. Safety is not either a 
serious issue with the normal array of protections serious surfers use. 
So the time you will spend restoring SM 1xx will not be wasted time.


I go back to Netscape 3.2 and do not remember a disastrous version ... 
but I cannot say I tried them all. I believe you might be referring to 
6.x when AOL interfered with Netscape.


I never move to a newer version without making sure I can return to the 
previous one and I am sure I am glad I did so for Vista!

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Benoit Renard

Ant wrote:
Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 
that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


SeaMonkey 1.1.18 is /not/ based on Firefox 2.0.0.20. It's not even based 
on Firefox. It's based on Gecko, and a newer version than the Gecko that 
shipped with Firefox 2.0.0.20, at that.

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Benoit Renard

Rufus wrote:
SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile 
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still 
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by 
default when you only have one.

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Re: no uninstall function for zip of Mozilla 1.18

2009-11-15 Thread Benoit Renard

Pierre wrote:

I downloaded the zip file for Mozilla 1.18 to a folder where I keep
program downloads. When I unzipped it, it automatically installed
itself in this folder, but without an uninstall file to remove it.


It was not installed, hence why you can't uninstall it. As the other 
poster said, just delete the folder.

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread John Doue

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:
SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile 
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still 
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by 
default when you only have one.


Or is it, that after installation, there is no submenu profile-manager 
entry in the Start Menu, Program? I do not remember and routinely delete 
those submenus after customizing them into a different location.


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Re: SM2.0 does not launch

2009-11-15 Thread John Boyle
Bernard Mercier wrote:
 Sandalin a formulé la demande :
   
 I successfully installed SM2, but unforunately it does not launch or more 
 exactly as i see in the task manager, it launches (does not open any window) 
 and immediately closes.
 

   
 Tried to uninstall, re-download, re-install, all the same.
 

   
 Win XP SP3
 

   
 PLEASE HELP !!! 
 
 Not enough memory?

   
Wrong Browser!

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Re: Incoming mail gone

2009-11-15 Thread Serge Popper

Daniel wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:
Installed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 a couple of weeks ago and have had no 
problems until tonight.  When I started SeaMonkey, my incoming mail 
folder opened normally but was not downloading my new mail.  I 
clicked on the get messages and a little widow opened saying 
something like working on this folder, please wait.  I waited a 
good while, nothing happened. I rebooted, tried again, no luck.  I 
downloaded and reinstalled a fresh copy of SeaMonkey.  Now there 
are no messages showing at all in my inbox folder. All other 
functions work OK, all other folders are accessible, browser shows 
no problem.

Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks


Serge, did the original message in the window say that you cannot 
download new mail into the inbox because it was being compacted??


When you delete an email, it is not really deleted from the inbox 
file, just part of the header information is changed to make it not 
show in the list of mail in your inbox. When you File|Compact 
Files the deleted message is actually removed from the inbox file.


At times, you may get a conflict between SM trying to download mail 
and SM trying to automatically compact the inbox because of the 
setting at the bottom of the page at 
Edit|Preferences|MailNewsgroup|OfflineDisk Space.


When you have SM running, have a look at Edit|MailNewsgroup Account 
Settings and select the Server Settings part of your mail account. 
At the bottom of this screen, there is the location of the Local 
Directory. Note the location as this is where SeaMonkey thinks your 
profile is.


Close SeaMonkey, go make yourself a cuppa, then do Crtl-Alt-Delete 
and see if SeaMonkey is still showing as running. If it is, End Task 
on it.


Do a Windows Find File/Folder looking for inbox without the 
inverted commas. The inbox is the file that SeaMonkey stores your 
incoming mail in. If you find more than one inbox, your lost mail 
may be in one of the other accounts.


Report back with results and if you find other inboxes, someone here 
can tell you how to get all your mail into one location.


HTH

Daniel
Daniel, thanks for the great explanation.  I'm just recuperating from 
Swine Flu and have little energy for anything.  I'll do what you 
suggest and report back.

Again, thanks.
Serge


Daniel, I've done what you suggested above and have unearthed an 
interesting array of files when I did my search for inbox)
The location of the Local Directory is C:\DOCUMENTS AND 
SETTINGS\POPPER\APPLICATIONDATA\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com 



None of the files found in the search include the file above.
I don't know how to list the files found in the search on this email.
Thanks,
Serge


Serge, when you did the search, did you have windows set to un-hide all 
your sub-folders??


 From my (failing) memory, Widows is set up to just display two levels 
of sub-folder, i.e. C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\POPPER.


If your SM is working, there MUST be files/folders at that full location.

Daniel

Hi Daniel,
Bottom line is that SM is working so there are files and folders at that 
full location so, I guess it is better to leave well enough alone.

Thanks for your help.
Serge
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I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Bush
I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. 
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I 
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?

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Re: OT but: SM 2.0 and Spybot/SpywareBlaster

2009-11-15 Thread Nobody

JAS wrote:

JD wrote:

JAS wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

JD wrote:

Nobody wrote:

I've just noticed that neither Spybot nor SpywareBlaster
support/recognise SM 2.0, though both worked fully with 1.1.18.


I just updated both without a problem. SpywareBlaster had no
update but
Spybot SD updated without any probem. What problem did you
encounter?

Was there a problem when you tried to run Spybot?



Oh, you can update, and both applications run but neither is
recognising SeaMonkey 2.0 so there's no protection:

For me, Spywareblaster's status screen shows Internet Destroyer
(sorry, Int. Explorer -- I do have it installed but seldom use it) and
Restricted Sites as Protection Enabled. Mozilla Firefox is not
detected. With SM 1.1.xx, there was Protection Enabled listed for
SeaMonkey, as well as from memory Moz. FF not detected.

As for Spybot SD, under Immunize, I now just see entries for IE 32
bit, IE 32/64 bit, and Windows/Global Host. There used to
be/should
be a full listing for SeaMonkey (as with IE's)... as there was for
Opera
when I had it installed.


On my SpywareBlaster, V 4.2,  I can enable and disable the Seamonkey
protection.

I don't use the Spybot S   D Immunize. When I clicked on it, it gave
me a warning of Open browser, Firefox. And then between IE 64 bit and
Windows, there is a list for Mozilla. Spybot S   D is V 1.6.2.46

I don't know why our two programs are different. Sorry.


I also am using Version 4.2 but it does not detect SM2.



Perhaps both my programs are seeing the older version of SM still on
this computer? Neither says Seamonkey 2, just Seamonkey.

And actually, SD is referring to an older SM profile. I'm not sure
how to remove the older version of SM.

Add/Remove programs show both versions but SM1.1.18 appears to have no
Size but 2.0 is 40.22MB in Size.


I just renamed my Mozilla and older Seamonkey folders in Programs,
Mozilla.org and also the old profiles in the application folder-you can
rename to the original for them to work again.



That doesn't make sense.  You don't want SB and S SD checking old 
profiles -- you want the current one, and neither app. knows how to look 
for them.

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/15/2009 12:10 AM, Richard wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 Richard wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:
 Hi!

 Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? 
 Just wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox 
 v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 is based on.
 When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
 Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
 time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
 vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
 have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
 representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
 branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
 if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
 latter is the case.

 Phil

 So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a 
 Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3? 
 Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that 
 particular disastrous version.

 Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?
 SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile 
 Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.

 Select Switch Profiles after opening SM 2.0, and you'll get the Profile 
 Manager.  Once you have more than one, it will come up by default at 
 launch.

 
 I spent a week trying to recover my multiple profiles and eventually 
 gave up, how can the developers of sm not see this as an issue and have 
 something in the new version to take care of this? or at the very least 
 warn users of this ISSUE and it is an issue, they really must be stupid.
 
 I take it the developers are either Linux users or act like Linux users 
 such egg heads that they believe they are too smart for those of us 
 unable to code! Well, I have sm at multiple sites and will certainly not 
 be upgrading to ver2 and if I can find an alternate multi profile system 
 I will, even if it means moving to the dreaded ie engine perminantly.

I using SeaMonkey 2 on Windows XP SP2.  I installed it one evening and
went to bed.  After breakfast the next morning, I migrated my primary
profile and three others successfully.

No, the instructions for migrating profiles were not as clear as they
should be.  But installing SeaMonkey 2 in a different location than
SeaMonkey 1.1.18 was important.  Backing-up my SeaMonkey 1.1.18 before
installing SeaMonkey 2 proved to be important (primarily because, at
first, I tried installing SeaMonkey 2 directly over SeaMonkey 1.1.18).

After installation, I found that I had to review about:config for
SeaMonkey 2 to correct preferences that pointed to my local files.  They
had to point to the SeaMonkey 2 files instead of SeaMonkey 1.1.18 files.
   I also had to set some preference variables in user.js in my
SeaMonkey 2 profiles because of open bug reports #526399 and #338549,
but I already had entries in user.js for SeaMonkey 1.1.x bugs.  Finally,
I submitted a few bug reports of my own; but I've submitted many such
reports against SeaMonkey 1.1.x.

Now, I'm using SeaMonkey 2.  I found that I needed one less extension
because that extension's capabilities were better implemented in the
basic SeaMonkey.  I found that the long-awaited Web fonts capability had
been implemented.  And I found a number of old bugs that I had been
tracking are now closed, not merely because they were asserted to be
closed but as a result of my own testing.

I will likely remove SeaMonkey 1.1.18 in about a month.  I've used it
only to check to see if certain SeaMonkey 2 anomalies also existed in
SeaMonkey 1.1.18.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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SM 2.0 Install Mistake, possibly??

2009-11-15 Thread Samuel S

Hello all,

I just installed SM 2.0 on my vista machine and mistakenly clicked on do 
not import or transfer info from 1.1.18 and deleted from my registry 
1.1.18 SM 1.1.18...


Is there any way to go back and get the files from 1.1.18 into 2.0 or 
are they in the abyss???


Thank you..

Bo1953
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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bush:

I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. 
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I 
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?

I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB)

Hartmut
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:
SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile 
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still 
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by 
default when you only have one.


Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding 
down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile 
Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode.  Nice feature, no 
notification.


Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second 
Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during 
the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous 
behavior.  Hidden, moved, revised...whatever.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Ant

On 11/15/2009 6:55 AM PT, Benoit Renard typed:


Ant wrote:
Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 
is based on.


SeaMonkey 1.1.18 is /not/ based on Firefox 2.0.0.20. It's not even based 
on Firefox. It's based on Gecko, and a newer version than the Gecko that 
shipped with Firefox 2.0.0.20, at that.


That is what I am referring to. The same engine (Gecko) that Firefox 
2.0.0.20.

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Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

2009-11-15 Thread Ant
I prefer suite products since I always use e-mails and Web browser when 
using the Internet.

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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread chicagofan

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:


I experienced the same thing on my Mac. I end up in this position after
I manually removing the _msf_ files to newsgroups to clean up some
strange problems (Massages being marked as read before I could get to
read them and so on.). Its a bug once this is set it should not change
for any reason unless you do so yourself



Hi,

neither deleting News.CIS.DFN.DE.msf for the group (no new one has
been created after new Seamonkey start) neither deleting the
name.of.newsgroup.msf files (new ones have been created after new
Seamonkey start)healed my problem.

Rainer



Did you create a new [news server] account in SM for news.individual.de, 
and then subscribe to your newsgroups again... after deleting the old 
account that wasn't working?

bj
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Re: [HOW-TO] Import Passwords from Firefox/Thunderbird to SM 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez
Philip Chee escribió:
 On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:03:41 +0100, Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez wrote:
 Philip Chee escribió:
 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=1588545
 (...)


 Hi, Phil, thank you for this recipe. May I ask what license applies to
 your post?. The reason I ask this is because I'd like to put a
 localized version of you recipe in our Spanish community site
 (http://www.mozilla-hispano.org/) but we publish all content under a
 CC 3.0-by-sa license, so I could only do it if your post is under a
 compatible license.
 
 CC 3.0-by-sa is fine with me. Also GFDL for those GNUists.
 


http://www.mozilla-hispano.org/documentacion/Importar_contraseñas_en_SeaMonkey_desde_Firefox_y_Thunderbird

Thank you, Phil! :-)

Ricardo

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/15/2009 9:11 AM, Ant wrote:
 On 11/15/2009 6:55 AM PT, Benoit Renard typed:
 
 Ant wrote:
 Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 
 is based on.
 SeaMonkey 1.1.18 is /not/ based on Firefox 2.0.0.20. It's not even based 
 on Firefox. It's based on Gecko, and a newer version than the Gecko that 
 shipped with Firefox 2.0.0.20, at that.
 
 That is what I am referring to. The same engine (Gecko) that Firefox 
 2.0.0.20.

Firefox 2.0.0.20 uses Gecko 1.8.1.20.  SeaMonkey 1.1.18 uses Gecko
1.8.1.23.

SeaMonkey 2.0 and Firefox 3.5.3 both use Gecko 1.9.1.4.

There are significant differences between Gecko 1.8.x and Gecko 1.9.x.

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Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/15/2009 8:24 AM, Bush wrote:
 I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. 
 I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I 
 have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?

Tabbed browsing was a feature in SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (and earlier 1.1.x
versions).  I've seen no differences in tabbed browsing with SeaMonkey
2.0 other than some very esoteric bugs in housekeeping when shutting
down or switching profiles.

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Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

2009-11-15 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:12:17 -0800, /Ant/:


I prefer suite products since I always use e-mails and Web browser when
using the Internet.


I prefer the suite as it is sharing my settings and preferences 
among its components - I don't want to maintain and synchronize the 
same settings among different applications the suite has as 
components.  That's enough for me to stick with the suite, but I 
also like the more verbose SeaMonkey UI loaded with some features I 
miss from Firefox - the Forms tab in the Page Info removed in 
Firefox 3, for example.


I don't care if the components of the suite run as separate 
processes / applications.  In fact that's the only nice thing about 
the Tb/Fb combo - when a page in the browser is running a heavy 
Flash applet it doesn't freeze the other components, e.g. the Mail. 
 Previously this could have been solved by the profile sharing 
proposal https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla2:Profile_Sharing but it 
has been dropped and I'm looking forward the implementation of 
content processes https://wiki.mozilla.org/Content_Processes 
which would make the suite better than the Tb/Fb combo, I think.


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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-15 Thread Walter





Well, in WinXP it's under C:\WINNT\Fonts\ (too obvious?), but if the 
problem is that SM is trying to read a file it should refer to a 
different program, fixing a putative font issue won't help. As Walter 
said earlier, it should be calling TablEdit, not trying to open the file 
itself.




After a good deal of experimentation and analyzing I have come to the 
conclusion that: indeed SM calls TE which reads the file but it does not 
know where the font is to translate the data correctly, thus does the 
best it can to display the data it can, using regular font, i. e. the 
text in the file. I have copied the TE font to the TE program file(s) 
but so far have not found the correct one. The TE fonts are in the 
Windows font file so that is not the problem.


Strangely, when I download .tef files from other sites, TE works OK. 
This leads me to believe there is something lost in translation to/from the


http://everythingdulcimer.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=178Itemid=142 



files.  This continues to be a challenging situation and I appreciate 
all the help and suggestions from other interested people. Should I ever 
find a solution, I will try to remember to post it here.


w.
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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-15 Thread stango

Walter wrote:





Well, in WinXP it's under C:\WINNT\Fonts\ (too obvious?), but if the 
problem is that SM is trying to read a file it should refer to a 
different program, fixing a putative font issue won't help. As Walter 
said earlier, it should be calling TablEdit, not trying to open the 
file itself.




After a good deal of experimentation and analyzing I have come to the 
conclusion that: indeed SM calls TE which reads the file but it does not 
know where the font is to translate the data correctly, thus does the 
best it can to display the data it can, using regular font, i. e. the 
text in the file. I have copied the TE font to the TE program file(s) 
but so far have not found the correct one. The TE fonts are in the 
Windows font file so that is not the problem.


Strangely, when I download .tef files from other sites, TE works OK. 
This leads me to believe there is something lost in translation to/from the


http://everythingdulcimer.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=178Itemid=142 



files.  This continues to be a challenging situation and I appreciate 
all the help and suggestions from other interested people. Should I ever 
find a solution, I will try to remember to post it here.


w.


Not sure if you tried this yet.

When you click on a saved .tef file in Windows Explorer does your TE 
program open the file?


If yes then your TE program is the default Windows .TEF file handler.

If no, you need to set that up via Windows File Manager Tools Folder 
Options File Types.


If yes, you may also need to set up a 'Helper Application' definition in SM.

Do that with SM Edit Preferences Navigator Helper Applications. Check 
the file list and see if there is an application listed to open a .TEF 
file. If not, you will need to define one so SM knows how to handle a 
.TEF file and /or which application to use.


Just use one of the existing applications listed for a template.

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Lance Courtland

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2009 12:10 AM, Richard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Richard wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? 
Just wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox 
v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 is based on.

When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil

So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a 
Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3? 
Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that 
particular disastrous version.


Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?
SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile 
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


Select Switch Profiles after opening SM 2.0, and you'll get the Profile 
Manager.  Once you have more than one, it will come up by default at 
launch.


I spent a week trying to recover my multiple profiles and eventually 
gave up, how can the developers of sm not see this as an issue and have 
something in the new version to take care of this? or at the very least 
warn users of this ISSUE and it is an issue, they really must be stupid.


I take it the developers are either Linux users or act like Linux users 
such egg heads that they believe they are too smart for those of us 
unable to code! Well, I have sm at multiple sites and will certainly not 
be upgrading to ver2 and if I can find an alternate multi profile system 
I will, even if it means moving to the dreaded ie engine perminantly.


I using SeaMonkey 2 on Windows XP SP2.  I installed it one evening and
went to bed.  After breakfast the next morning, I migrated my primary
profile and three others successfully.

No, the instructions for migrating profiles were not as clear as they
should be.  But installing SeaMonkey 2 in a different location than
SeaMonkey 1.1.18 was important.  Backing-up my SeaMonkey 1.1.18 before
installing SeaMonkey 2 proved to be important (primarily because, at
first, I tried installing SeaMonkey 2 directly over SeaMonkey 1.1.18).

After installation, I found that I had to review about:config for
SeaMonkey 2 to correct preferences that pointed to my local files.  They
had to point to the SeaMonkey 2 files instead of SeaMonkey 1.1.18 files.
   I also had to set some preference variables in user.js in my
SeaMonkey 2 profiles because of open bug reports #526399 and #338549,
but I already had entries in user.js for SeaMonkey 1.1.x bugs.  Finally,
I submitted a few bug reports of my own; but I've submitted many such
reports against SeaMonkey 1.1.x.

Now, I'm using SeaMonkey 2.  I found that I needed one less extension
because that extension's capabilities were better implemented in the
basic SeaMonkey.  I found that the long-awaited Web fonts capability had
been implemented.  And I found a number of old bugs that I had been
tracking are now closed, not merely because they were asserted to be
closed but as a result of my own testing.

I will likely remove SeaMonkey 1.1.18 in about a month.  I've used it
only to check to see if certain SeaMonkey 2 anomalies also existed in
SeaMonkey 1.1.18.



David:

Please help those of us struggling to migrate multiple profiles in 
different user areas of Win XP SP3.


Precisely what are the steps used to migrate these profiles?
What preference variables did you have to set in user.js?
What changes did you make in about:config?
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

John Doue wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.


Or is it, that after installation, there is no submenu profile-manager
entry in the Start Menu, Program? I do not remember and routinely delete
those submenus after customizing them into a different location.



No - it's that the option for opening the Profile Manager on launch with 
a key sequence if you only have one Profile is now gone.


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Re: SM 2.0 Install Mistake, possibly??

2009-11-15 Thread Smiles

Samuel S wrote:

Hello all,

I just installed SM 2.0 on my vista machine and mistakenly clicked on do 
not import or transfer info from 1.1.18 and deleted from my registry 
1.1.18 SM 1.1.18...


Is there any way to go back and get the files from 1.1.18 into 2.0 or 
are they in the abyss???


Thank you..

Bo1953

files should still be in your profile

you should be able to migrate using

seamonkey -migrate from run command
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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread George Carden

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2009 8:24 AM, Bush wrote:

I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS.
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?


Tabbed browsing was a feature in SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (and earlier 1.1.x
versions).  I've seen no differences in tabbed browsing with SeaMonkey
2.0 other than some very esoteric bugs in housekeeping when shutting
down or switching profiles.



He's probably talking about the new tabs within the e-mail reader. I 
don't care for them either. Can anyone point out to me the advantage of 
tabs in an e-mail reader? And...the setting hide tab when only one is 
open does work. That's my solution.


-George
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Re: SM 2.0 Install Mistake, possibly??

2009-11-15 Thread Jens Hatlak

Smiles wrote:

you should be able to migrate using

seamonkey -migrate from run command


To the OP: Make that -migration.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey

HTH

Jens

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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Jens Hatlak

Brian D. Symmes:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

please excuse me for my test posting. After I upgraded to 2.0 I was no
longer able to post in the newsgroups


Check that your default outgoing SMTP server matches the email address
you are using to post with.


Posting to a news server doesn't use SMTP, the news protocol NNTP 
handles that itself.


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:


I experienced the same thing on my Mac. I end up in this position after
I manually removing the _msf_ files to newsgroups to clean up some
strange problems (Massages being marked as read before I could get to
read them and so on.). Its a bug once this is set it should not change
for any reason unless you do so yourself



Hi,

neither deleting News.CIS.DFN.DE.msf for the group (no new one has 
been created after new Seamonkey start) neither deleting the 
name.of.newsgroup.msf files (new ones have been created after new 
Seamonkey start)healed my problem.


Rainer


Please note that the .msf file for a newsgroup carries information
about which news articles are available on the server, the article
Subjects and possibly their new (just downloaded status), and other
flags, BUT NOT their read/unread status.
The list of read articles is kept in the record for the newsgroup,
in the .rc file for that news profile.
If the article # appears in the .rc file then the article is assumed
as read, whether or not it is still present on the server.
I believe that the permanent, disk, copy of the .rc file is rewritten/
saved when one switches to a different news profile (or exits SM),
and possibly more often. But I am unsure!
So an improperly updated .rc file may be to blame for your symptoms.
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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS.
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?


I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB)

Hartmut
That the exact settings I have and there is no tabs, I too despise to 
even look at tabs. And to beat it all SM has even added a tab bar for 
emails as well, what's up with that??? Tabs are a resource hog. everyone 
of those page snapshots if you will takes up memory. If you have one or 
two open , no big deal. But if you are over that, it eats away at 
memory. If I can save up to get one of those machines with 8-16GB of 
System RAM and fast SAT Drive. I might consider (I doubt it) looking at 
Tabs. But for now I want my windows to switch from one window to another 
and back


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old mail dissappeared

2009-11-15 Thread Brian Fairey

I upgraded from SM 1.x to SM 2.0 and had to re-enter my profile.
I managed to import my bookmarks but have lost my saved mail
and cannot find it even tho I tried to import it along with my address book.
Any ideas wher I might find it?
Under 2.0 what folder is saved mail kept in?
Brian Fairey.
Waterloo
Canada.
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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Brian D. Symmes:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

please excuse me for my test posting. After I upgraded to 2.0 I was no
longer able to post in the newsgroups


Check that your default outgoing SMTP server matches the email address
you are using to post with.


Posting to a news server doesn't use SMTP, the news protocol NNTP
handles that itself.

Greetings,

Jens

Must be related some way - I had the same exact problem and only after 
editing the SMTP Server file to tick the check box on for use *secure 
authentication* was I able to post in to any newsgroups after I had 
closed down SM 2 and threw away all the MSF files and trashed them for 
any newsgroups I had. Now whether it supposed to have an affect/effect. 
I don't know. I just know if it unchecked I can't post to newsgroups  as 
well


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/15/2009 11:56 AM, Lance Courtland wrote:
 
 David:
 
 Please help those of us struggling to migrate multiple profiles in 
 different user areas of Win XP SP3.
 
 Precisely what are the steps used to migrate these profiles?
 What preference variables did you have to set in user.js?
 What changes did you make in about:config?

Since I expect my further actions to be within SeaMonkey 2.0, I did not
record how I migrated my profiles.  I will try to give you what I
remember.

1.  I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 in Windows XP in a different directory
than SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  SeaMonkey 1.1.18 is in C:\Seamonkey.
SeaMonkey 2.0 is in C:\SeaMonkey2.  Somehow, I did not see the
migration wizard operating for my primary profile.  This might be
because my SeaMonkey 1.1.18 profiles are not in the default location
C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles.
Instead, they are under C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Mozilla.

2.  I launched SeaMonkey 2.0 and requested [Tools  Switch Profile] from
the menu bar to launch the Profile Manager.  On the Profile Manager
window, I selected the Manage Profiles button.  I then created a dummy
profile for each of the four profiles that I wanted to migrate.  These
dummy profiles were created in directories separate from the SeaMonkey
1.1.18 profiles, under C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\SeaMonkey.  (The
names of the profiles are the same, but they are under different
directories.)  I then terminated SeaMonkey and the Profile Manager.

3.  For each SeaMonkey 2.0 profile, I deleted the contents of the dummy
profile and then copied the contents of the corresponding SeaMonkey
1.1.18 profile into the SeaMonkey 2.0 profile.  This involved not only
files but also subdirectories and their files.

4.  On the Windows taskbar, I selected [Start  Run].  I followed the
instructions at
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manual_migration,
repeating for each profile.  In my case the command for my David profile
was:
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -P
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\SeaMonkey\David
-migration
all on a single line.  Note that the quotes were required because the
path to my profile involved names containing blanks.

5.  (While I didn't do the following, I should have.  Instead, I
dithered around for a few days, fixing the file paths only as I noticed
something didn't work correctly.  By the time the light dawned, my
review of about:config showed that I had already corrected almost all
of the file paths.)  Repeat this in SeaMonkey 2.0 for each migrated
profile.  On the SeaMonkey address area, enter about:config.  Slowly
scroll through all entries, looking for values that point to files on
your PC.  Change values specific to SeaMonkey 1.1.x to being specific to
SeaMonkey 2.0.  For example, my home page is my bookmarks file.  The
preference variable browser.startup.homepage was still pointing to my
SeaMonkey 1.1.18 bookmarks.html file; I had to change it to point to my
SeaMonkey 2.0 bookmarks.html file.

6.  To address bugs, I put the following into the user.js files in each
of my profiles.

user_pref(browser.download.manager.showAlertOnComplete, false);
// no alert on completing download; bug #526399
user_pref(signon.startup.prompt, false);
// don't ask for master password until it's used, bug #338549

Don't forget the semi-colon at the end of the user_pref command.  Note
that I use user.js so that I can annotate why I'm changing a preference;
comment lines begin with double-slash.  The user.js file updates your
preferences only when SeaMonkey is launched; thus, you must terminate
and then restart SeaMonkey after entering these in user.js.  If these
bugs are ever fixed, I will delete these entries from user.js and use
about:config to reset the variables.

7.  To address a reduced capability for setting user IDs and passwords
for Web site logins, I installed the Activate Autocomplete extension.
It can be found at
http://www.smart-roadster-club.de/off-topic/mozilla/extensions/activate-autocomplete/.
 There is a bug report on this problem, but I can't get it right now
because Bugzilla is being updated.

8.  I also installed the following extensions:
* Adblock Plus 1.1.1 http://adblockplus.org/
* Flashblock 1.3.14 http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
* PrefBar 4.3.0 http://prefbar.mozdev.org/
* Show Password On Input 0.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/6143/
Adblock Plus 1.1.1 is specifically for SeaMonkey 2.0 (and Firefox
3.5.x).  PrefBar 4.3.0 will work with SeaMonkey 1.1.18 but was developed
for SeaMonkey 2.0; there are also some button changes for SeaMonkey 2.0.

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Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Ant wrote:

I prefer suite products since I always use e-mails and Web browser when
using the Internet.


As well as I.

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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

JD wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

JD wrote:

Erwin Castellanos wrote:

It's a bug?

When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me
the Save Image dialog box but instead of the
image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type:
SeaMonkey Document. But if I do Copy Image and
paste it in paint by instance, it works.


Here is the link for reference.:

http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg

Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?






When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the
Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why it's
not working for you.



Is this problem on a Mac or PC? ON Mac I can save image in jpeg(jpg),
giff (gif), png, Pdf, and other formats.



Wow, my SM2 is on a Windows XP (a PC) and the .jpg is the only option.

I either miss read or miss-posted. jpegs will be saved as jpegs But I 
can also save other formats that come in in their format as well, 
png/png, gif/gif and so on sorry for confusion


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Richard wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it? Just
wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20
that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil



So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a
Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3?
Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that
particular disastrous version.

Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?


Probably 3.0.1.a gold. At that point we switched to Communicator.

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Richard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Richard wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:25:30 -0800, Ant wrote:

Hi!

Is SeaMonkey ever going to get new v1.1 version or is v1.1.18 it?
Just wondering since Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox
v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18 is based on.


When KaiRo gets back from his holiday, we will re-look at the situation.
Basically Mozilla itself had abandoned the Gecko 1.8.1 platform some
time ago but we were still getting some security fixes from Linux
vendors who continued to upstream their fixes for a while. This seems to
have dried up. We are trying to get a reply from the contact
representing the consortium of Linux vendors that have long lived stable
branches to see how much longer they will maintain this Gecko branch or
if it has been abandoned completely. Unfortunately I fear that the
latter is the case.

Phil



So were stuck with this ver 2, reminds me of a problem we had with a
Netscape version way back, also a ver 2 I think or was it ver 3?
Netscape lost a great deal of support and ground to ie after that
particular disastrous version.

Does anyone know of another Browser suite that allows multiple profiles?


SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.

Select Switch Profiles after opening SM 2.0, and you'll get the Profile
Manager.  Once you have more than one, it will come up by default at
launch.



I spent a week trying to recover my multiple profiles and eventually
gave up, how can the developers of sm not see this as an issue and have
something in the new version to take care of this? or at the very least
warn users of this ISSUE and it is an issue, they really must be stupid.

I take it the developers are either Linux users or act like Linux users
such egg heads that they believe they are too smart for those of us
unable to code! Well, I have sm at multiple sites and will certainly not
be upgrading to ver2 and if I can find an alternate multi-profile system
I will, even if it means moving to the dreaded ie engine permanently.


 You certainly won't find an all in on over in MS line. IE has never 
has an all in one even when it was IE 2 it was IE/OE both of which on 
the mac were worse than terrible. Opera has a Mail client built in I've 
never set it up.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.
 It doesn't pop up if there is only one. But, it does after you go to 
switch Profile. and create one. Then it will as long as there is more 
than just one Profile.  Ages ago it would come up on start up you could 
then check a box and it would disappear forever until you want to create 
a new profile. The decided to hide it, but have it so you could get to 
it by going to switch profiles. It was several versions before this 
appeared, You had to use a work around to get to it.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Phillip Jones

Ant wrote:

On 11/15/2009 6:55 AM PT, Benoit Renard typed:


Ant wrote:

Mozilla doesn't update and support Firefox v2.0.0.20 that SM v1.1.18
is based on.


SeaMonkey 1.1.18 is /not/ based on Firefox 2.0.0.20. It's not even based
on Firefox. It's based on Gecko, and a newer version than the Gecko that
shipped with Firefox 2.0.0.20, at that.


That is what I am referring to. The same engine (Gecko) that Firefox
2.0.0.20.


SM2 is based on the Gecko 1.9.1 engine that is in the 3.5.x series of 
FireFox  and possible the 3 version of TB for the mail and news I 
haven't installed TB on this Machine since I had to replace the HD on 
this computer.


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Re: SM 2.0 Install Mistake, possibly??

2009-11-15 Thread Samuel S

Samuel S wrote:

Hello all,

I just installed SM 2.0 on my vista machine and mistakenly clicked on do
not import or transfer info from 1.1.18 and deleted from my registry
1.1.18 SM 1.1.18...

Is there any way to go back and get the files from 1.1.18 into 2.0 or
are they in the abyss???

Thank you..

Bo1953


Hello all,

I figured out by backing up the 1.1.18 files then, upgrading my 
MozBackUp and then reinstalling the back up, that worked.


Thank you one and all for your input and assistance.

Bo1953
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

Phillip Jones wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.
 It doesn't pop up if there is only one. But, it does after you go to 
switch Profile. and create one. Then it will as long as there is more 
than just one Profile.  Ages ago it would come up on start up you could 
then check a box and it would disappear forever until you want to create 
a new profile. The decided to hide it, but have it so you could get to 
it by going to switch profiles. It was several versions before this 
appeared, You had to use a work around to get to it.




You used to have an option to bring it up at launch, if you only had one 
and wanted to create a new one from the start...that was handy, 
particularly if you are missing one/some and want to manually re-create 
the new one to get started.


After that, the rest is obvious...again, another change from previous 
behavior/expectation that's not very clear from the outset when upgrading.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/15/2009 3:07 PM, Rufus wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 Benoit Renard wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
 Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.
 What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
 pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
 default when you only have one.
  It doesn't pop up if there is only one. But, it does after you go to 
 switch Profile. and create one. Then it will as long as there is more 
 than just one Profile.  Ages ago it would come up on start up you could 
 then check a box and it would disappear forever until you want to create 
 a new profile. The decided to hide it, but have it so you could get to 
 it by going to switch profiles. It was several versions before this 
 appeared, You had to use a work around to get to it.

 
 You used to have an option to bring it up at launch, if you only had one 
 and wanted to create a new one from the start...that was handy, 
 particularly if you are missing one/some and want to manually re-create 
 the new one to get started.
 
 After that, the rest is obvious...again, another change from previous 
 behavior/expectation that's not very clear from the outset when upgrading.
 

When I installed SeaMonkey 2.0, I got an item in my [Start  Programs]
list for the Profile Manager.  It's a shortcut to
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -profileManager
(since I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 in C:\SeaMonkey2\.

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Browser Occurrence ?

2009-11-15 Thread nr
I'm using 2.0 with XP Pro SP3.  From time to time, when in the
browser, the title bar will become lighter and I have to press the
cursor on the screen to get control back.  I never had this happen
with version 1 and was wondering if anyone had an idea what might be
causing it.  I have both AdBlock Plus and NoScripts running (as in v
1).  I do not think it is an XP issue, as I've been using Excel a lot
lately and nothing like this happened there.

Many thanks for any ideas and/or suggestions.
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seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread goodfmly
ever since i installed 2.0 , performance as degraded by as much as
20%, I did not make changes in Prefeence settings , any
recommendations.
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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread JD

Phillip Jones wrote:

JD wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

JD wrote:

Erwin Castellanos wrote:

It's a bug?

When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me
the Save Image dialog box but instead of the
image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type:
SeaMonkey Document. But if I do Copy Image and
paste it in paint by instance, it works.


Here is the link for reference.:

http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg


Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?






When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the
Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why
it's
not working for you.



Is this problem on a Mac or PC? ON Mac I can save image in jpeg(jpg),
giff (gif), png, Pdf, and other formats.



Wow, my SM2 is on a Windows XP (a PC) and the .jpg is the only option.


I either miss read or miss-posted. jpegs will be saved as jpegs But I
can also save other formats that come in in their format as well,
png/png, gif/gif and so on sorry for confusion



Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Bush

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS.
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?


I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB)

Hartmut
Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing?  I never 
saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0.  And Yes I still have 
the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup.

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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Jay Garcia

On 15.11.2009 19:02, Bush wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS.
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?


I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB)

Hartmut
Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing?  I never 
saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0.  And Yes I still have 
the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup.


There wasn't any tabs in NS 1.1.

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Bug verification - SM 2.0 mail composer quotation text space compression

2009-11-15 Thread User
Can someone confirm / verify this bug in SM 2.0's mail composer, whereby on any 
given text line that has a string of CONTIGUOUS MULTIPLE SPACE CHARACTERSS which 
will be incorrectly REDUCED / COMPRESSED to a SINGLE space character in the 
QUOTED text on a reply to such a message? Bugzilla fluent members who can verify 
and report this SM 2.0 bug would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2009 3:07 PM, Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.

What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.

  It doesn't pop up if there is only one. But, it does after you go to
switch Profile. and create one. Then it will as long as there is more
than just one Profile.  Ages ago it would come up on start up you could
then check a box and it would disappear forever until you want to create
a new profile. The decided to hide it, but have it so you could get to
it by going to switch profiles. It was several versions before this
appeared, You had to use a work around to get to it.



You used to have an option to bring it up at launch, if you only had one
and wanted to create a new one from the start...that was handy,
particularly if you are missing one/some and want to manually re-create
the new one to get started.

After that, the rest is obvious...again, another change from previous
behavior/expectation that's not very clear from the outset when upgrading.



When I installed SeaMonkey 2.0, I got an item in my [Start  Programs]
list for the Profile Manager.  It's a shortcut to
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -profileManager
(since I installed SeaMonkey 2.0 inC:\SeaMonkey2\.



I'm using a Mac - formerly, one could launch while holding the option 
key to bring up the Profile Manager - no more; now that invokes some 
sort of safe mode, which while a good idea is a fairly awkward 
interface change without any amplification to the user.


Now once SM 2.0 is launched I can bring up the PM under Tools/Switch 
Profile, but it took me some time to figure that out...if SM 2.0 had 
migrated all my Profiles from 1.1.18 (like it SHOULD have) I'd have 
never had an issue.


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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Bush

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2009 19:02, Bush wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS.
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences .
Do I
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?


I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB)

Hartmut

Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I
never saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I
still have the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup.


There wasn't any tabs in NS 1.1.


Wasn't that what I wrote ?

anyone remember the old winsocks Days ?
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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Bush:


I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS.
I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I
have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ?


I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB)

Hartmut

Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I never
saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I still have
the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup.



Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end 
with 9.


Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning.  1.0 had it, as dd 
every other version released,  There was never a Mozilla 2.0, so I am 
not sure where you are coming from on that one.


If you are talking about Firefox 2.0. well Firefox has also had tabbed 
browsing since its inception as Phoenix.


The simplest answer is just don't use them.  Maybe you could post an 
example of when a tab opens when you don't want it to, so we can advise 
you as to how to avoid it.


Lee
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Re: seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Andrea Govoni
On 16/11/09 01:09, goodfmly wrote:
 ever since i installed 2.0 , performance as degraded by as much as
 20%, I did not make changes in Prefeence settings , any
 recommendations.

Check your newsgroups server settings and disable the automatic check
for new messages at startup and every x minutes, if enabled.
Have a look at these threads and report back if you are experiencing a
similar issue and if the trick worked:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/b2ca52cd58029e13/
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/2b1cf01327a88bff/
Thanks.

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Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread Chris Ilias

On 09-11-15 9:32 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end
with 9.


Netscape 7 was the first NS release to have it.


Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning. 1.0 had it, as dd
every other version released,


Mozilla 0.9.5 was the first Mozilla release to have it.

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Leonidas Jones

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.


Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding
down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile
Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode. Nice feature, no
notification.

Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second
Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during
the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous
behavior. Hidden, moved, revised...whatever.



I agree that some notice might have been nice, but it is actually an 
improvement.  If you have one profile, you can still invoke Profile 
Manager via ToolsSwitch Profile, or using Terminal. That beats 
Firefox, where Profile Manager can only be invoked via Terminal. And you 
now have an easy way to invoke Safe Mode, which used to require Terminal.


Yes the migration wizard is geared for the average user, who has only 
one profile, and may not even know what a profile is.


For me it worked fine.  The two other profiles I had were a test 
profile, and my Netscape 7.2 profile, which still runs fine in that 
application.  That works well for me, since I now won't open NS or SM in 
the wrong profile.


If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile 
Manager at startup.


Lee
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Leonidas Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.


Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding
down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile
Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode. Nice feature, no
notification.

Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second
Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during
the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous
behavior. Hidden, moved, revised...whatever.



I agree that some notice might have been nice, but it is actually an
improvement. If you have one profile, you can still invoke Profile
Manager via ToolsSwitch Profile, or using Terminal. That beats
Firefox, where Profile Manager can only be invoked via Terminal. And you
now have an easy way to invoke Safe Mode, which used to require Terminal.

Yes the migration wizard is geared for the average user, who has only
one profile, and may not even know what a profile is.

For me it worked fine. The two other profiles I had were a test profile,
and my Netscape 7.2 profile, which still runs fine in that application.
That works well for me, since I now won't open NS or SM in the wrong
profile.

If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile
Manager at startup.

Lee


Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager:

/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager

It does not seem to work anymore.  Anybody have an idea of how to open 
PM from Terminal?


Lee
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Re: Profile Locatios in SM 2.x and Windows 7

2009-11-15 Thread Andrea Govoni
On 15/11/09 02:00, Phillip Jones wrote:
 there is a a slight mistake in the Mac reference.
 
 /snip/
 
 the proper library Should be Hard drive name/username/Application
 Support/SeaMonkey

That's the same as ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey (the ~
stands for your home directory).
There isn't any mistake in the Mac reference, IMO.


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Cannot create static build of seamonkey

2009-11-15 Thread Martin
I have been working on this for several days with no luck. I am able
to build and run seamonkey, however whenever I want to create a static
build (with statically linked libraries) I always fail with an error
like this:

gmake[5]: *** No rule to make target `-lgkgfx', needed by
`libsuite.so'.  Stop.

I am new to building mozilla, so any help will be very highly
appreciated. Here are the steps that I took to perform my build:

$ cvs -d :pserver:anonym...@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot co mozilla/
client.mk
$ cd mozilla
$ make -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_DATE=01 Oct 2008 1:02 PDT
MOZ_CO_PROJECT=suite

My .mozconfig file:
mk_add_options moz_objd...@topsrcdir@/suite-static
ac_add_options --enable-application=suite
ac_add_options --enable-debug
ac_add_options --disable-tests
ac_add_options --disable-libxul
ac_add_options --enable-static

$ make -f client.mk build  // and I get the error above.

If I remove the static options, I am able to build and run seamonkey
just fine.
I also tried the same with a newer version of seamonkey, by performing
a checkout without
specifying the date, and had the same problem.
$ make -f client.mk checkout  MOZ_CO_PROJECT=suite

Thank you very much for the help.
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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread erwincas
On Nov 15, 6:17 pm, JD j...@example.invalid wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
  JD wrote:
  Phillip Jones wrote:
  JD wrote:
  Erwin Castellanos wrote:
  It's a bug?

  When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me
  the Save Image dialog box but instead of the
  image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type:
  SeaMonkey Document. But if I do Copy Image and
  paste it in paint by instance, it works.

  Here is the link for reference.:

 http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg

  Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?

  When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the
  Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why
  it's
  not working for you.

  Is this problem on a Mac or PC? ON Mac I can save image in jpeg(jpg),
  giff (gif), png, Pdf, and other formats.

  Wow, my SM2 is on a Windows XP (a PC) and the .jpg is the only option.

  I either miss read or miss-posted. jpegs will be saved as jpegs But I
  can also save other formats that come in in their format as well,
  png/png, gif/gif and so on sorry for confusion

 Thanks for the clarification.

 --
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Resolved:

There was an installation error, now I can save any image with SM 2.0

Thanks.

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Re: Cannot create static build of seamonkey

2009-11-15 Thread Martin
I forgot the mention that I am using Fedora 8 Linux.
$ cat /proc/version

Linux version 2.6.26.8-57.fc8 (mockbu...@x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com)
(gcc version 4.1.2 20070925 (Red Hat 4.1.2-33)) #1 SMP Thu Dec 18
19:19:45 EST 2008

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.


Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding
down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile
Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode. Nice feature, no
notification.

Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second
Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during
the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous
behavior. Hidden, moved, revised...whatever.



I agree that some notice might have been nice, but it is actually an
improvement. If you have one profile, you can still invoke Profile
Manager via ToolsSwitch Profile, or using Terminal. That beats
Firefox, where Profile Manager can only be invoked via Terminal. And you
now have an easy way to invoke Safe Mode, which used to require Terminal.



...any improvement that a user can't find or use is...useless. 
Especially when it's a change to a previous and thus expected 
implementation.  Nice improvement, lousy implementation from a user 
perspective.



Yes the migration wizard is geared for the average user, who has only
one profile, and may not even know what a profile is.



The migration wizard should have been built to handle the worst case - 
the average user wold have been a subset of that.



For me it worked fine. The two other profiles I had were a test profile,
and my Netscape 7.2 profile, which still runs fine in that application.
That works well for me, since I now won't open NS or SM in the wrong
profile.



Given that my second profile was a very simple one, it worked out for 
me...eventually.



If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile
Manager at startup.

Lee


It does now, now that I have more than one.  But I can't find any option 
for doing that - SM 2.0 just does it since I now have more than one...if 
I can do it by changing about:config that a bit outside of being an 
average user, IMO.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.


What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
default when you only have one.


Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding
down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile
Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode. Nice feature, no
notification.

Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second
Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during
the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous
behavior. Hidden, moved, revised...whatever.



I agree that some notice might have been nice, but it is actually an
improvement. If you have one profile, you can still invoke Profile
Manager via ToolsSwitch Profile, or using Terminal. That beats
Firefox, where Profile Manager can only be invoked via Terminal. And you
now have an easy way to invoke Safe Mode, which used to require Terminal.

Yes the migration wizard is geared for the average user, who has only
one profile, and may not even know what a profile is.

For me it worked fine. The two other profiles I had were a test profile,
and my Netscape 7.2 profile, which still runs fine in that application.
That works well for me, since I now won't open NS or SM in the wrong
profile.

If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile
Manager at startup.

Lee


Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager:

/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager

It does not seem to work anymore. Anybody have an idea of how to open PM
from Terminal?

Lee


I used to keep the standalone PM app from NS hanging around and just use 
it...but I doubt that would work these days either.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/15/2009 7:11 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 Benoit Renard wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile
 Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features.
 What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still
 pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by
 default when you only have one.
 Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding
 down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile
 Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode. Nice feature, no
 notification.

 Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second
 Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during
 the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous
 behavior. Hidden, moved, revised...whatever.

 I agree that some notice might have been nice, but it is actually an
 improvement. If you have one profile, you can still invoke Profile
 Manager via ToolsSwitch Profile, or using Terminal. That beats
 Firefox, where Profile Manager can only be invoked via Terminal. And you
 now have an easy way to invoke Safe Mode, which used to require Terminal.

 Yes the migration wizard is geared for the average user, who has only
 one profile, and may not even know what a profile is.

 For me it worked fine. The two other profiles I had were a test profile,
 and my Netscape 7.2 profile, which still runs fine in that application.
 That works well for me, since I now won't open NS or SM in the wrong
 profile.

 If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile
 Manager at startup.

 Lee
 
 Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager:
 
 /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager
 
 It does not seem to work anymore.  Anybody have an idea of how to open 
 PM from Terminal?
 
 Lee

From Windows XP, the -profileManager parameter still works with
SeaMonkey 2.0.  Note that the p is lower-case and the M is upper-case.

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Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
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Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Leonidas Jones

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/


Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager:

/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager

It does not seem to work anymore. Anybody have an idea of how to open PM
from Terminal?

Lee


I used to keep the standalone PM app from NS hanging around and just use
it...but I doubt that would work these days either.



I didn't think that worked since OS9.

Lee
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Leonidas Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2009 7:11 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/

Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager:

/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager

It does not seem to work anymore.  Anybody have an idea of how to open
PM from Terminal?

Lee


 From Windows XP, the -profileManager parameter still works with
SeaMonkey 2.0.  Note that the p is lower-case and the M is upper-case.



This is on Mac OSX 10.6.

Lee
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Leonidas Jones

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/

If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile
Manager at startup.

Lee


It does now, now that I have more than one. But I can't find any option
for doing that - SM 2.0 just does it since I now have more than one...if
I can do it by changing about:config that a bit outside of being an
average user, IMO.



Once Profile Manager is open, uncheck the box for Don't ask at atartup. 
Profile Manager will then open whenever you click the Dock icon. Check 
it, and SM will open in the last profile used.


Lee
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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/


Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager:

/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager

It does not seem to work anymore. Anybody have an idea of how to open PM
from Terminal?

Lee


I used to keep the standalone PM app from NS hanging around and just use
it...but I doubt that would work these days either.



I didn't think that worked since OS9.

Lee


Just checked - it still works under 10.4.11...I may give it a try on my 
other machines.


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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread Rufus

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/

If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile
Manager at startup.

Lee


It does now, now that I have more than one. But I can't find any option
for doing that - SM 2.0 just does it since I now have more than one...if
I can do it by changing about:config that a bit outside of being an
average user, IMO.



Once Profile Manager is open, uncheck the box for Don't ask at atartup.
Profile Manager will then open whenever you click the Dock icon. Check
it, and SM will open in the last profile used.

Lee


Yeah - done that.  Now it does, now that I have two Profiles.

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Re: Save image As ... SM 2.0

2009-11-15 Thread JD

erwincas wrote:

On Nov 15, 6:17 pm, JDj...@example.invalid  wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

JD wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

JD wrote:

Erwin Castellanos wrote:

It's a bug?



When I tried to save this image to my local hard drive, SM show me
the Save Image dialog box but instead of the
image's name, (file name) SM show url.html and Save as Type:
SeaMonkey Document. But if I do Copy Image and
paste it in paint by instance, it works.



Here is the link for reference.:



http://www.olcsobbat.hu/static/product_images/400x400/10002/1002351.jpg



Is there a way to fix it or it's a bug in SM 2.0?



When I right mouse click on the image you posted the link to, I get the
Save Image dialog box and I can save it as a .jpg. I don't know why
it's
not working for you.



Is this problem on a Mac or PC? ON Mac I can save image in jpeg(jpg),
giff (gif), png, Pdf, and other formats.



Wow, my SM2 is on a Windows XP (a PC) and the .jpg is the only option.



I either miss read or miss-posted. jpegs will be saved as jpegs But I
can also save other formats that come in in their format as well,
png/png, gif/gif and so on sorry for confusion


Thanks for the clarification.

--
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Resolved:

There was an installation error, now I can save any image with SM 2.0

Thanks.

Erwin


Thanks for the update. Good to see you got it working!

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Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?

2009-11-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/15/2009 8:33 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/15/2009 7:11 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 Benoit Renard wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 /snip/
 Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager:

 /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager

 It does not seem to work anymore.  Anybody have an idea of how to open
 PM from Terminal?

 Lee
  From Windows XP, the -profileManager parameter still works with
 SeaMonkey 2.0.  Note that the p is lower-case and the M is upper-case.

 
 This is on Mac OSX 10.6.
 
 Lee

Command Line Options at
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Command_Line_Options indicates the
same command-line option works for Mac OSX as for PC WindowsXP.

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Message window goes blank

2009-11-15 Thread William Morrison
Several times now while reading a email message in SM 2.0 either the 
message display pane or the pane where read and unread messages are 
listed and on some occasions both places just go blank. To correct this 
I have to either click on another message then go back to the one I was 
reading or click on another subfolder in the account folder pane then 
back to that folder. If that made any sense could someone tell me what 
causes it and how to stop it from happening or is this just the nature 
of the email client of 2.0? I can tell by the sound my hard drive is 
making that the computer is doing something but from what I can tell it 
must be from inside SM because most of the time I don't have anything 
else running when it happens.


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