Re: Welcome to the support-seamonkey mailing list

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Freitag

George Chakonas schrieb:


HI,

Im making a website with the a wmv file in the website. The link
won't open the movie from the page but if I click on the wmv final in
the folder it will open the movie what is the correct code i need to
put after the wmv file to have it open in windows media player?
Thanks again.


http://www.mediacollege.com/video/format/windows-media/streaming/embed.html

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Freitag

Danny Kile schrieb:

BeeNeR wrote:

Also FAILS here. Windows XP SP3 SM2.0
Works OK with IE Tab.


Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0?



google = coralietab

Site works in SM2 here btw.

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Re: Bug in text areas

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Freitag

Rex schrieb:

I've noticed this when typing in a text area.

I've typed some text, and then changed focus from the textarea.
When I click back on it, nothing happens unless I click exactly where I
was last editing. I click anywhere else, the textarea does not acquire
focus, the mouse arrow remains an arrow (doesn't change to the text
cursor) and the cursor does not appear.

To put it another way, if I click on a text area that has text in it, I
expect the text cursor to appear where I clicked. This does not happen.
If I click at the last letter that I typed, then the cursor appears, and
I have to navigate by keyboard to get back to where I want to edit.


WFM. Any example page maybe?

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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Freitag

rocek schrieb:

I am experiencing similar problems, and went so far as to ask our
systems people at the University of Delaware to check it out; they
downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 and couldn't get it to work with our servers
with any combination of settings (Seamonkey 1.x worked fine). I also
have been unable to get the SMTP settings to work with Speakeasy's SMTP
server (my isp), which had no problem with Seamonkey 1.x; I tried
authentication on and off, as well as playing with multiple options. So
far, the only SMTP server that's worked for me is google. Are there some
compatibility issues in the new setting options? Thanks for any
suggesitonsTom


Tried to apply obones' instructions at the end of this thread?
regards

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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel

Martin Freitag wrote:

rocek schrieb:

I am experiencing similar problems, and went so far as to ask our
systems people at the University of Delaware to check it out; they
downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 and couldn't get it to work with our servers
with any combination of settings (Seamonkey 1.x worked fine). I also
have been unable to get the SMTP settings to work with Speakeasy's SMTP
server (my isp), which had no problem with Seamonkey 1.x; I tried
authentication on and off, as well as playing with multiple options. So
far, the only SMTP server that's worked for me is google. Are there some
compatibility issues in the new setting options? Thanks for any
suggesitonsTom


Tried to apply obones' instructions at the end of this thread?
regards

Martin


Martin, whilst Rocek may well have had some Passwords come across from 
SM 1.x into SM 2.0, I'm guessing that the U of C probably didn't have SM 
1.x on their system, so would not have had any PW's to carry over.


Just guessing, though

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Re: Enlarge/Decrease fonts sizes only on the fly?

2009-12-01 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2009 3:17 PM PT, David Wilkinson typed:


I love it too, but it keeps crashing for me like on
http://www.facebook.com/editaccount.php?notificationsmd=cGhvdG9fY29tbWVudDtm

+cm9tPTEwMDAwMDEyMzgyOTg1Mjt1aWQ9MTAwOTEyOTE5OTtwaWQ9NTM4OTUwO3RvPTEwMDkxMjkxOTk=

+mid=e75fadG3c2616efGb8881bG9 (doesn't even show the web page yet),
http://bbc.co.uk/, etc. :(


No problem for me. I don't/won't use Facebook. I spend too much time on
usenet even to consider it.


I think I fixed it. I had to change my font settings in SM2 to stop 
crashing. WEIRD.

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Re: A bug in SMTP dialog box/prompt?

2009-12-01 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2009 2:40 PM PT, Martin Freitag typed:


I know that, but why did the prompt allow me to highlight that text?
That shouldn't happen and sounds like a bug.


feel free to file one ;-)


Done. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532065 ... :)
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Re: any way to collapse news servers......

2009-12-01 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2009 2:33 PM PT, Martin Freitag typed:


so they don't show all the groups? I have 3 servers, this morning one
was collapsed the other 2 were not. This afternoon they were all
expanded, no big deal, I can get used to closing than opening the
servers to get message counts. TIA


You can search for the preference
news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane
in about:config and set it to true.
(or add it to your user.js)
regards


Why was this behavior changed from v1.x?
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Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel

Martin Freitag wrote:

Daniel schrieb:

Ant wrote:

Hi!

Does outbox always go in Local Folders? I use various e-mail
accounts and servers. I'd like to have it each account use their own
outbox that I send later. They all ended up in Local Folder's outbox.
There are no outbox settings I see in preferences and accounts to
change this. I didn't have this issue in v1.1.18.

Thank you in advance. :)


Sorry, Ant, where do you get outbox from???

Sent Mail should get posted to your mail accounts Sent folder.


The outbox is the folder of unsent messages which are proposed to be 
sent later...

regards

Martin


Sorry, Martin, where do you get outbox from???  Is this something new 
for version 2.0?? It doesn't appear, natively, in my SM 1.1.15 (and 
older) profile!!


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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

rocek schrieb:

I am experiencing similar problems, and went so far as to ask our
systems people at the University of Delaware to check it out; they
downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 and couldn't get it to work with our servers
with any combination of settings (Seamonkey 1.x worked fine). I also
have been unable to get the SMTP settings to work with Speakeasy's SMTP
server (my isp), which had no problem with Seamonkey 1.x; I tried
authentication on and off, as well as playing with multiple options. So
far, the only SMTP server that's worked for me is google. Are there some
compatibility issues in the new setting options? Thanks for any
suggesitonsTom


Tried to apply obones' instructions at the end of this thread?
regards

Martin


Martin, whilst Rocek may well have had some Passwords come across from 
SM 1.x into SM 2.0, I'm guessing that the U of C probably didn't have SM 
1.x on their system, so would not have had any PW's to carry over.


Just guessing, though

Daniel


Error... should have been U of D rather than U of C!!

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 11/30/2009 10:14 PM, Danny Kile typed the following:
 BeeNeR wrote:
 On or about 11/30/2009 9:35 PM, Bush typed the following:
 Danny Kile wrote:
 Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
 in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if
 you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
 However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

 The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx

 Works correctly here

 Seamonkey 1.1.18
 Win7 pro

 Also FAILS here.  Windows XP SP3 SM2.0
 Works OK with IE Tab.

 Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0?
 

Do a google search for 'Coral IE Tab 1.69.20091026'.  It works on SM2.0
I forgot the exact link.

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread David Wilkinson

Bush wrote:
Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 
1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program 
discription works great .


here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY


SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) 
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14


The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The user-agent 
string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If the user-agent string 
names FireFox, then many pages will display as they would in FireFox.


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Re: Inbox oddities...

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel

Keith Whaley wrote:

I'm working with Mac OS 10.6.2, and SM 1.1.18.

In the last several days, my _Inbox_ shows message count discrepancies 
with what the upper left folder window indicates (say 15 messages 
unread, and 2484 total messages) and what actually shows up in the main 
message window, when I select to display only unread messages, is 
perhaps 5 unread messages and 828 messages total!)


If I shut down Inbox and Home Account, then SeaMonkey, and after 10 
seconds or so, reopen each folder, my messages revert to actual ~ 5 and 
828.


Soon, it reverts (as I move from folder to folder, and visit URLs on the 
'net, then return to Inbox.

It's never done this before.

No, I have no idea what I might have recently done, or downloaded that 
might have interfered with smooth operations of SM.


I have opened Disk Utility App. and repaired Disk Permissions, to little 
avail.


Who has an idea what I might try next?

A literal map leading me to go delete the Inbox .msf file might work, I 
guess.



Any help much appreciated.

keith whaley


Keith, it annoys me when I open a news server in SM and one of the 
groups might show as 8 unread from 265 messages, then as the server gets 
updated, the figures might switch to 15 unread out of 835 messages, then 
when I actually select the group the figures might change to 8 unread 
out of 265 messages again, but thats not your problem.


Have you tried compacting your inbox (File|Compact Folders)? Works best 
after File|Empty Trash


If you want to delete your inbox.msf, either
1. (I was going to tell you to do a Windows Find Files and Folder, but 
as your using Mac, I don't know what the equivalent is!) Then I was 
going to suggest doing a search for *.msf (without the quotes) and 
then suggest just deleting any and all .msf files. They are rebuilt as 
needed.
2. In SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit|MailNewsgroup Account Settings, 
select Server Settings of your mail account, and at the bottom of this 
screen is the location of your profile (Local Directory). This should 
give you a bit of an indication as to where the .msf files are.


HTH

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Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...

2009-12-01 Thread Ant

On 12/1/2009 2:40 AM PT, Daniel typed:


Sorry, Martin, where do you get outbox from??? Is this something new for
version 2.0?? It doesn't appear, natively, in my SM 1.1.15 (and older)
profile!!


When you use Send Later, where does it go?
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

/snip/




I've never used UA switcher, but your current UA is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0

Change that to:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 Firefox/3.5.5

Add that you your UA Switcher, and it should do the trick.

Lee


Thank you, Lee.

Adding that line to the UA Switcher and spoofing FireFox did the trick
without having to run IE Tab. Thank you again!

Danny


I amso glad to have helped!

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-12-01 Thread Benoit Renard

Jay Garcia wrote:

Why is a release based on a beta ?


From what I've heard, Thunderbird was taking forever, and SeaMonkey 2.0 
was already taking a long time to materialise. Things needed to move 
forward so work could start on the next release.

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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

2009-12-01 Thread jim
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:40:24 -0500, rocek ro...@udel.edu in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

jim wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:49:39 -0500, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com in
 mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:
 
 jim wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:09:40 +0100, obones obones_g...@fds_free.fr in
 mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

 Hello all,

 I'm currently reviewing SM2 and when I installed it I told it to import 
 the settings from my existing SM1 installation.
 All email accounts got imported, along with the SMTP server definition.
 While I can send emails just fine in SM1, I always get an error when 
 sending emails with SM2.
 The error says this:

 Unable to authenticate to SMTP server SERVER_NAME. The serer does not 
 support any compatible insecure authentication mechanism but you have 
 chosen insecure authentication. Try switching on secure authentication 
 or contact your service provider.

 I tried turning on TLS or even SSL, but none of these are provided by 
 the given server.
 What I find weird is that it worked and continues to work fine in SM1.
 Obviously, some option has been removed/disabled in SM2, but which one?
 Is there a way to reactivate it?

 Thanks
 My situation is that I can receive just gangbusters with SM2.  But it
 refuses to send, giving the SMTP-AUTH message.  However, the server
 settings show no security, no Auth.

 Let me know if you get it working and most of all, how you did it.

 I think that may be your problem, you have to match your settings to the 
 server, 
 if it wants auth you have to provide it. Since I don't know what your 
 server 
 wants I can't be sure, but there's a reasonable possibility that you need 
 to 
 configure auth. Not only that, but secure auth, like TLS+SSL (I forget the 
 exact 
 choice in the list), but it's not the checkbox, it's the menu about 1/3 
 down the 
 screen.
 
 Thanks.  I will try that one.
 
 jim
 
I am experiencing similar problems, and went so far as to ask our 
systems people at the University of Delaware to check it out; they 
downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 and couldn't get it to work with our servers 
with any combination of settings (Seamonkey 1.x worked fine).  I also 
have been unable to get the SMTP settings to work with Speakeasy's SMTP 
server (my isp), which had no problem with Seamonkey 1.x; I tried 
authentication on and off, as well as playing with multiple options.  So 
far, the only SMTP server that's worked for me is google.  Are there 
some compatibility issues in the new setting options?  Thanks for any 
suggesitonsTom

After being stymied for several days, this is what worked for me, OI am
borrowing the original message and my reply from chicagofan:



Under your user account's Mail/Newsgroup Menu, have you checked your 
settings under Outgoing Server [SMTP]?

If not, click EDIT from your toolbar/Click Mail  Newsgroups Account 
Settings/ Click Outgoing Server (SMTP)/then CLICK... EDIT on the 
default settings for your server.  Make sure the box is NOT checked to 
authenticate... in that pop up box.

I apologize if you have already done this,


 but there is more than one authenticate box in SM, and this is what 
 happened to me, 


Thanks.  I am now sending email with SM2.0.

How could I miss something so obvious. 
(oh...it wasn't that obvious. :-))

jim




Hoping it works for ya.

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SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu
I'll be getting a new computer either today or tomorrow. While I am 
familiar with the profile transfer process, which I've done many times 
before, I've never done it on anything more exotic than going from Win2K 
to WinXP.


So my question is, is there any specific process to use to transfer my 
2.0 profile from Win2K to Win7 or is the standard cut and paste approach 
sufficient?


Any information on this matter will be much appreciated.

S.
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Re: SM 2.0 mail is not using the default profile, even after selecting it manually HELP!

2009-12-01 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/1/2009 12:50 AM, Martin Freitag wrote:
 holsteinson schrieb:
 I used SM 1.1.18 and tried to upgrade to 2.0 but after downloading and
 copying it to the Application folder, it only shows the new mail
 profile wizard  it doesnt recognize my old SM existing default profile
 with all my emails and accounts

 I tried selecting manually with Manage Profile and selected it
 manually but it did not workedCan anyone HELP ME get SM2.0 to use
 my existing profile in Mail?
 
 
 Try manual migration:
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
 
 regards
 Martin

I just wanted to clarify for the OP that you don't want to use
the original SM 1.1.X profile in SM 2.X. The 1.1.X profile will
remain unchanged, so you can go back to it if desired.

Instead, as Martin pointed out, you want to migrate the contents
of the 1.1.X profile to a new 2.X profile.

I hope this clears up some confusion.
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/1/2009 3:38 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 
 1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program 
 discription works great .

 here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY


 SeaMonkey 1.1.14

 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) 
 Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14
 
 The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The user-agent 
 string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If the user-agent 
 string 
 names FireFox, then many pages will display as they would in FireFox.
 

No.  If you go to the menu bar and select [Help  About SeaMonkey], you
get the user agent string that SeaMonkey currently sends to Web servers.

In one of my profiles, [Help  About SeaMonkey] shows
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 NOT Firefox/3.5.3
I use this profile only for those financial institutions that
incorrectly sniff for Firefox instead of Gecko.

Using the PrefBar extension in all of my profiles, I can make [Help 
About SeaMonkey] show the same Firefox spoof or show
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
or
Opera/9.10 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US)
AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.48
Safari/525.19
or even blank.

Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area.

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

I'll be getting a new computer either today or tomorrow. While I am
familiar with the profile transfer process, which I've done many times
before, I've never done it on anything more exotic than going from Win2K
to WinXP.

So my question is, is there any specific process to use to transfer my
2.0 profile from Win2K to Win7 or is the standard cut and paste approach
sufficient?

Any information on this matter will be much appreciated.

S.


The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find 
the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either 
2K or XP:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey

Lee
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Re: code for wmv file to play as a link

2009-12-01 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/30/2009 10:22 PM, George Chakonas wrote:
 HI, 
 
 Im making a website with the a wmv file in the website. The
 link won't open the movie from the page but if I click on the wmv final
 in the folder it will open the movie what is the correct code i need to
 put after the wmv file to have it open in windows media player? Thanks
 again.
 
 
 
 
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You posted this as a reply to an unrelated thread.  Please repost to
start a new thread.  Actually, you might want to post this in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html on a public news server.

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu

Leonidas Jones wrote:


The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find
the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either
2K or XP:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey



Thank you!

Just to be sure I was clear, my regular CP approach is to copy 
whatever is below the basic profile folder, files and all, and crush it 
over whatever is below the basic profile folder of the second computer. 
So that will still work? Colour me impressed, as I would have expected 
to be told that the infrastructure was completely different. yay for 
simplicity!


How about copying my whole default profile into the default profile 
location on the new computer *before* I installed SM on it? Would that 
also work? I've never tried that approach before.


S.
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find
the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either
2K or XP:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey



Thank you!

Just to be sure I was clear, my regular CP approach is to copy
whatever is below the basic profile folder, files and all, and crush it
over whatever is below the basic profile folder of the second computer.
So that will still work? Colour me impressed, as I would have expected
to be told that the infrastructure was completely different. yay for
simplicity!

How about copying my whole default profile into the default profile
location on the new computer *before* I installed SM on it? Would that
also work? I've never tried that approach before.

S.


As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7, 
there should be no problem with your procedure.


For what its worth, here is how I go about it, which is slightly 
different then you may see elsewhere.


Copy the profile folder from the old machine.

Install SeaMonkey 2.0 on the new machine.  Use the Profile Manager to 
create its default profile.  Do not open SeaMonkey yet, just close 
Profile Manager once the new profile is created.


With SeaMonkey closed, navigate to your new profile folder, the location 
of which can be found at the link I provided earlier.  The new profile 
will be in a folder called .default.  Your old profile will be 
.(profilename).  Paste the old profile folder from the old 
machine in along side the newly created profile folder.


The x's in the above examples are actually a random string of numbers 
and letters.  (profilename) would the name of your profile from your old 
computer, which may very well be default.


For the sake of this example, say the newly created profile is 
a1b2c3d4.default, and the profile from the old machine is 
4d3c2b1a.default.  Make a note of the newly created profile name.


Rename this newly created profile to a1b2c3d4.defaultold.  Then rename 
your old machine profile, 4d3c2b1a.default to a1b2c3d4.default.


In short, rename the profile you are moving to the same name as the one 
you just created.  Close out, then start SeaMonkey.  You should see your 
moved profile with all the data you had on Win2K.


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Re: To all those claiming that SM 2.0 is 'junk'..

2009-12-01 Thread chicagofan

Stan wrote:

Rex wrote:

It looks like all the problems are due to migrating from 1.x.
I'm a new user of Seamonkey- I discovered it about a week before 2.0
released and so I've used nothing but 2.0 from the start.
Aside from a few minor bugs that I've got solutions for here, I find it
extremely stable and loads pages faster than Firefox (then again I have
about 70 extensions on my Firefox profile).

-
The problem with paradigms is that shift happens.
-


I had a lot of trouble installing the last version of 1.1.xx and finally
gave up, installed a beta of 2, transferred over some files, had to
transfer passwords by hand. I have had no trouble with 2.0.



In spite of Old Croc Boyle's protestations for the last month, the 
majority does not consider SM 2.0 junk.   :)


I upgraded 1.1.14 to a beta of 2.0 to get the newsgroup crossposting 
filter, then upgraded to this release; with only the SMTP edit 
necessity escaping me.  Came to this group and got help resolving that 
right away.  I've since installed the Walnut theme, and I'm loving my 
version of SM 2.0.

bj


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Re: Bug in text areas

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

Rex wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Rex schrieb:

I've noticed this when typing in a text area.

I've typed some text, and then changed focus from the textarea.
When I click back on it, nothing happens unless I click exactly where I
was last editing. I click anywhere else, the textarea does not acquire
focus, the mouse arrow remains an arrow (doesn't change to the text
cursor) and the cursor does not appear.

To put it another way, if I click on a text area that has text in it, I
expect the text cursor to appear where I clicked. This does not happen.
If I click at the last letter that I typed, then the cursor appears, and
I have to navigate by keyboard to get back to where I want to edit.


WFM. Any example page maybe?

regards
Martin


Try commenting on an article at slashdot.org.



I just went to slashdot.org, and started a comment. The text area is 
behaving quite normally. I started a comment, clicked outside the field, 
then back in and the cursor reappeared. I noted a typing error (how 
unlike me) and clicked to place the cursor in order to correct it.  It 
worked, no need for the back arrow on the keyboard.


I then went back, started this response, then back to the browser and 
slashdot, and repeated the above.  From here its working exactly as it 
should.


You could try starting SeaMonkey in safe mode, though I doubt its 
actually a SeaMonkey problem.  Worth a try anyway.


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SM2: Mail Folders Pane Re-sizing

2009-12-01 Thread art
In SM2, the hot spot to horizontally re-size the mail folders pane area 
is quite small. Unlike hot spots for other panes, this one seems to be 
only 1 pixel wide, making it rather precise to hit the target with the 
mouse.


This seems to be unique to the Default Theme 1.0. The Modern Theme 1.0 
appears to have wider and more consistent hot spots for pane resizing.


Is there a way to make this wider in the Default Theme ?

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Pressing Home Button Sets Home Page

2009-12-01 Thread Sqwertz

SM 2.0 WinXPSP3

Sometimes when I press the Home Button (which has been moved next to the 
URL bar, finally), it doesn't take me Home, but asks me if I want to set 
the current page as my home page.


Talk about annoying.  Any way to disable this behavior?  The shortcut for 
this action is to drag the URL icon to the home button - which are next to 
each other in my case - but I know I'm not doing this by accident.  So 
moving the home button further away is probably not a solution.


-sw
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Re: To all those claiming that SM 2.0 is 'junk'..

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

chicagofan wrote:

Stan wrote:

Rex wrote:

/snip/


In spite of Old Croc Boyle's protestations for the last month, the
majority does not consider SM 2.0 junk. :)

I upgraded 1.1.14 to a beta of 2.0 to get the newsgroup crossposting
filter, then upgraded to this release; with only the SMTP edit
necessity escaping me. Came to this group and got help resolving that
right away. I've since installed the Walnut theme, and I'm loving my
version of SM 2.0.
bj




Me too.  Profile migration was very smooth from here. The new Addons 
Manager is worth the hassle of the new version by itself. Extensions and 
themes are easier to install, easier to uninstall, and easier to 
configure.  More extensions will be available as we go, since it is now 
much easier to get FF and TB extensions to work with SM.


I guess the biggest drawback is the Forms Manager, or lack thereof. I 
never really used it that much, but for those who do, it is a loss. 
However, it is good to note that returning a version of it may well be 
in the works.


By and large, I feel this release had to happen, and soon. I don't think 
waiting any longer was likely to make the transition less bumpy, and now 
the SeaMonkey project is well poised for its future development.


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 12/1/2009 5:59 AM, BeeNeR typed the following:
 On or about 11/30/2009 10:14 PM, Danny Kile typed the following:
 BeeNeR wrote:
 On or about 11/30/2009 9:35 PM, Bush typed the following:
 Danny Kile wrote:
 Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
 in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if
 you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
 However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

 The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx

 Works correctly here

 Seamonkey 1.1.18
 Win7 pro

 Also FAILS here.  Windows XP SP3 SM2.0
 Works OK with IE Tab.

 Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0?

 
 Do a google search for 'Coral IE Tab 1.69.20091026'.  It works on SM2.0
 I forgot the exact link.
 

It can be found here:
http://coralietab.mozdev.org/installation.html

Look at the 'Mirrors' section for 'SeaMonkey 2 users'

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Timeline for Release of Seamonkey 2.x?

2009-12-01 Thread mcjathan
Just curious, is there a planned timeline for the next release of 
Seamonkey 2.x?

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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Danny Kile

S. Beaulieu wrote:

I'll be getting a new computer either today or tomorrow. While I am
familiar with the profile transfer process, which I've done many times
before, I've never done it on anything more exotic than going from Win2K
to WinXP.

So my question is, is there any specific process to use to transfer my
2.0 profile from Win2K to Win7 or is the standard cut and paste approach
sufficient?

Any information on this matter will be much appreciated.

S.


Why not just use Mozbackup, you make a backup from one PC and then do a 
restore on the second.


Link:  http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread David Wilkinson

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/1/2009 3:38 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:
Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 
1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program 
discription works great .


here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY


SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) 
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14
The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The user-agent 
string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If the user-agent string 
names FireFox, then many pages will display as they would in FireFox.




No.  If you go to the menu bar and select [Help  About SeaMonkey], you
get the user agent string that SeaMonkey currently sends to Web servers.

In one of my profiles, [Help  About SeaMonkey] shows
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 NOT Firefox/3.5.3
I use this profile only for those financial institutions that
incorrectly sniff for Firefox instead of Gecko.

Using the PrefBar extension in all of my profiles, I can make [Help 
About SeaMonkey] show the same Firefox spoof or show
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
or
Opera/9.10 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US)
AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.48
Safari/525.19
or even blank.


Hmmm, it seems you are right. Sorry about that.

So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer.

 Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area.

What do you mean by this?

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Re: SM2: Mail Folders Pane Re-sizing

2009-12-01 Thread user

art skriver:

In SM2, the hot spot to horizontally re-size the mail folders pane area
is quite small. Unlike hot spots for other panes, this one seems to be
only 1 pixel wide, making it rather precise to hit the target with the
mouse.

This seems to be unique to the Default Theme 1.0. The Modern Theme 1.0
appears to have wider and more consistent hot spots for pane resizing.

Is there a way to make this wider in the Default Theme ?



Yes, you can make it wider with the following style rule in your 
userChrome.css: #folderpane-splitter { width: 5px; } or, if that doesn't 
work, #folderpane-splitter { width: 5px !important; }.


You might want to do more since that will just expand the width of the 
splitter (it doesn't look that nice). Style rules affecting that 
particular splitter can be seen here: 
http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-1.9.1/source/suite/themes/classic/mac/messenger/mailWindow1.css#88 
and further down.


Basically, the above rules overrides the default rules starting at 
http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-1.9.1/source/mozilla/toolkit/themes/pinstripe/global/splitter.css#47 
(that's the old look).


HTH

/Stefan
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Re: Inbox oddities...

2009-12-01 Thread Phillip Jones

Daniel wrote:

Keith Whaley wrote:

I'm working with Mac OS 10.6.2, and SM 1.1.18.

In the last several days, my _Inbox_ shows message count discrepancies
with what the upper left folder window indicates (say 15 messages
unread, and 2484 total messages) and what actually shows up in the main
message window, when I select to display only unread messages, is
perhaps 5 unread messages and 828 messages total!)

If I shut down Inbox and Home Account, then SeaMonkey, and after 10
seconds or so, reopen each folder, my messages revert to actual ~ 5 and
828.

Soon, it reverts (as I move from folder to folder, and visit URLs on the
'net, then return to Inbox.
It's never done this before.

No, I have no idea what I might have recently done, or downloaded that
might have interfered with smooth operations of SM.

I have opened Disk Utility App. and repaired Disk Permissions, to little
avail.

Who has an idea what I might try next?

A literal map leading me to go delete the Inbox.msf file might work, I
guess.


Any help much appreciated.

keith whaley


Keith, it annoys me when I open a news server in SM and one of the
groups might show as 8 unread from 265 messages, then as the server gets
updated, the figures might switch to 15 unread out of 835 messages, then
when I actually select the group the figures might change to 8 unread
out of 265 messages again, but thats not your problem.

Have you tried compacting your inbox (File|Compact Folders)? Works best
after File|Empty Trash

If you want to delete your inbox.msf, either
1. (I was going to tell you to do a Windows Find Files and Folder, but
as your using Mac, I don't know what the equivalent is!) Then I was
going to suggest doing a search for *.msf (without the quotes) and
then suggest just deleting any and all .msf files. They are rebuilt as
needed.
2. In SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit|MailNewsgroup Account Settings,
select Server Settings of your mail account, and at the bottom of this
screen is the location of your profile (Local Directory). This should
give you a bit of an indication as to where the .msf files are.

HTH

Daniel


To cure that Problem:

1 - go to Edit Mail  newsgroups synchronization  Storage.

2 set the following items to 60 days.

a. Messages more than: (Disk Space)
b. Messages more then: (Recover Disk Space)
B. Remove bodies from ... :(Recover Disk Space) have just those items 
checked.


Now go to each newsgroup and items should stick.

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Re: SM2: Mail Folders Pane Re-sizing

2009-12-01 Thread Stefan

u...@domain.invalid skriver:

art skriver:

In SM2, the hot spot to horizontally re-size the mail folders pane area
is quite small. Unlike hot spots for other panes, this one seems to be
only 1 pixel wide, making it rather precise to hit the target with the
mouse.

This seems to be unique to the Default Theme 1.0. The Modern Theme 1.0
appears to have wider and more consistent hot spots for pane resizing.

Is there a way to make this wider in the Default Theme ?



Yes, you can make it wider with the following style rule in your
userChrome.css: #folderpane-splitter { width: 5px; } or, if that doesn't
work, #folderpane-splitter { width: 5px !important; }.

You might want to do more since that will just expand the width of the
splitter (it doesn't look that nice). Style rules affecting that
particular splitter can be seen here:
http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-1.9.1/source/suite/themes/classic/mac/messenger/mailWindow1.css#88
and further down.

Basically, the above rules overrides the default rules starting at
http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-1.9.1/source/mozilla/toolkit/themes/pinstripe/global/splitter.css#47
(that's the old look).

HTH

/Stefan


Forgot to mention that you'll find the userChrome.css file in 
Library/Application 
Support/SeaMonkey/Profiles/xxx.profileName/chrome (rename 
userChrome-example.css to userChrome.css).


/Stefan
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Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...

2009-12-01 Thread Phillip Jones

Ant wrote:

On 12/1/2009 2:40 AM PT, Daniel typed:


Sorry, Martin, where do you get outbox from??? Is this something new for
version 2.0?? It doesn't appear, natively, in my SM 1.1.15 (and older)
profile!!


When you use Send Later, where does it go?

Drafts.

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Re: NNTP problems - FIX

2009-12-01 Thread NoOp
On 11/24/2009 10:20 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
 It seems that a fix is available for this problem, assuming you are
 willing to build your own SeaMonkey from source. Bug #484656 seems to
 change the You have your config wrong to we were parsing your config
 wrong. In any case the problem is identified, and *maybe* this will be
 in 2.0.1 as a fix.
 
 Since comm-1.9.1 (the base of 2.0.x releases) branched after the fix for 
 that bug was checked in it already contains that fix. IOW, it's already 
 fixed in 2.0.1pre nightlies (which you can get without building from 
 source) and will be fixed in 2.0.1. :-)
 
 Huzzah! I hate to run a work in progress in production, but that might be the 
 best solution.
 
 Thanks for the info, now the next question is why it works for anyone with 
 the 
 official 2.0 release.
 

This may be a bit late, but taking a hint from Harmut on how to capture
logs for various sessions, I set a log for nntp and logged into
news.eternal-september.org using port 563/ssl. I then sent a test msg on
the eternal-september.test group. The results are here:

http://pastebin.com/m7bf6e673

You can do the same by adding a few lines to your 'seamonkey' shell
script. Here is what I added to mine (preceded by ++ so you can see
which lines were added, of course don't include ++ in your script 
modify '$HOME/pathtoSeaMonkey' to suit your needs):

#uncomment for debugging
#set -x
++# keep a log
++# For bash shell (the default shell on most GNU/Linux systems):
++#export NSPR_LOG_MODULES=nntp:5
++#export NSPR_LOG_FILE=$HOME/pathtoSeaMonkey/nntp.log
++#export NSPR_LOG_MODULES=pop3:5
++#export NSPR_LOG_FILE=$HOME/pathtoSeaMonkey/pop3.log
++#export NSPR_LOG_MODULES=smtp:5
++#export NSPR_LOG_FILE=$HOME/pathtoSeaMonkey/smtp.log

When I want to enable the log, I simply uncomment (remove the #) before
starting SeaMonkey. For example, for nntp:

export NSPR_LOG_MODULES=nntp:5
export NSPR_LOG_FILE=$HOME/pathtoSeaMonkey/nntp.log

Perhaps from the log on the failing/problem build you can see the
difference between your log and the log I've posted.

Log refs:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Session_logging_for_mail/news
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:21:39 -0800, /Danny Kile/:


Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you
click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


First, as already found by others the site seems to sniff for 
specific user agents.  Spoofing as Firefox makes the site work o.k. 
in SeaMonkey, too.  They seem to sniff for Firefox and then serve 
some CSS styling, but if not Firefox they serve total crap CSS rules 
obviously targeted at IE only.  They better sniff for IE only and 
serve the garbage to IE browsers while serving normal content to all 
others.


Second, one could see the content in question applying following 
user styles to the page:


  table { display: table !important; }
  tr { display: table-row !important; }
  th, td { display: table-cell !important; }

One may use userContent.css or the Stylish extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/2108

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Re: Bug in text areas

2009-12-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rex wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Rex schrieb:

I've noticed this when typing in a text area.

I've typed some text, and then changed focus from the textarea.
When I click back on it, nothing happens unless I click exactly where I
was last editing. I click anywhere else, the textarea does not acquire
focus, the mouse arrow remains an arrow (doesn't change to the text
cursor) and the cursor does not appear.

To put it another way, if I click on a text area that has text in it, I
expect the text cursor to appear where I clicked. This does not happen.
If I click at the last letter that I typed, then the cursor appears, 
and

I have to navigate by keyboard to get back to where I want to edit.


WFM. Any example page maybe?

regards
Martin


Try commenting on an article at slashdot.org.



I just went to slashdot.org, and started a comment. The text area is 
behaving quite normally. I started a comment, clicked outside the field, 
then back in and the cursor reappeared. I noted a typing error (how 
unlike me) and clicked to place the cursor in order to correct it.  It 
worked, no need for the back arrow on the keyboard.


I then went back, started this response, then back to the browser and 
slashdot, and repeated the above.  From here its working exactly as it 
should.


You could try starting SeaMonkey in safe mode, though I doubt its 
actually a SeaMonkey problem.  Worth a try anyway.


WFM2...

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Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...

2009-12-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Phillip Jones wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/1/2009 2:40 AM PT, Daniel typed:


Sorry, Martin, where do you get outbox from??? Is this something new for
version 2.0?? It doesn't appear, natively, in my SM 1.1.15 (and older)
profile!!


When you use Send Later, where does it go?

Drafts.


On my system, it's always gone to Unsent Messages. No such thing as 
Outbox, though that's an understandable description of what Unsent 
Messages is.


Drafts is just a temporary holding area for messages you're working 
on. If you do File | Send Unsent Messages, anything in Drafts will stay 
there.


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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu

Leonidas Jones wrote:


As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7,
there should be no problem with your procedure.



You were right! I'm writing from the new computer and the transfer was 
100% painless and easy! I just hard a hard time figuring out how to not 
have to use the Search function...


(Well, Win2K looks like crap and is definitely going to need some 
getting used to, but I guess that's besides the point!)


Thank you very much.

S.
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Release of SM 2.x- please restore form manager don't break anything else PLEASE

2009-12-01 Thread me2
I did say please...
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Re: SeaMonkey v2 extension replacements

2009-12-01 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, Ant, on 11/28/2009 6:23 PM typed:

On 11/28/2009 3:32 PM PT, D. K. Kraft typed:


Ant, I haven't sent Jeremy Gillick, the author of this extension, an
e-mail yet, to ask if he'd officially update it for SM 2. But I intend
to, and encourage you to do so as well. The more users that inquire, the
more incentive he'll have to make the update. There's a contact link at
his website that you have already noted above.


Good idea. If that fails, then maybe someone can code one and open 
source it?


Unfortunately, we may be looking at this situation, or a user hack of the
extension as it stands.  Jeremy's e-mail address, jer...@mozmonkey.com,
doesn't ping, and logically, the e-mail I sent to that address has been
undeliverable.  The post I made to the mozdev newsgroups for TinyURL has
also gone unanswered.  It appears the creator has abandoned his extensions,
even though his website remains accessible.

If any extension developer would be willing to look at TinyURL Creator and
at least give instructions so users could successfully hack the install.rdf,
individual users could then at least get the extension working with SM 2
without switching off the compatibility check.

Perhaps a post in the Mozillazine forums would be constructive...
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Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...

2009-12-01 Thread Martin Freitag

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/1/2009 2:40 AM PT, Daniel typed:


Sorry, Martin, where do you get outbox from??? Is this something new
for
version 2.0?? It doesn't appear, natively, in my SM 1.1.15 (and older)
profile!!


When you use Send Later, where does it go?

Drafts.


On my system, it's always gone to Unsent Messages. No such thing as
Outbox, though that's an understandable description of what Unsent
Messages is.



Yeah, used to be unsent messages in my SM1.x too, it's outbox now 
(either because of SM2 or because it's due to my change to IMAP), should 
be the same.




Drafts is just a temporary holding area for messages you're working
on. If you do File | Send Unsent Messages, anything in Drafts will stay
there.


cooorect :-)

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Bush

David Wilkinson wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/1/2009 3:38 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:
Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 
1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program 
discription works great .


here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY


SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) 
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14
The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The 
user-agent string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If 
the user-agent string names FireFox, then many pages will display as 
they would in FireFox.




No.  If you go to the menu bar and select [Help  About SeaMonkey], you
get the user agent string that SeaMonkey currently sends to Web servers.

In one of my profiles, [Help  About SeaMonkey] shows
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 NOT Firefox/3.5.3
I use this profile only for those financial institutions that
incorrectly sniff for Firefox instead of Gecko.

Using the PrefBar extension in all of my profiles, I can make [Help 
About SeaMonkey] show the same Firefox spoof or show
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
or
Opera/9.10 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US)
AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.48
Safari/525.19
or even blank.


Hmmm, it seems you are right. Sorry about that.

So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer.




About WHAT ?

Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About Seamonkey 
and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view the sites 
that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View .

like the TV guide website .

Did I start a Can of Worms on my original POST ?





  Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area.

What do you mean by this?


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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7,
there should be no problem with your procedure.



You were right! I'm writing from the new computer and the transfer was
100% painless and easy! I just hard a hard time figuring out how to not
have to use the Search function...

(Well, Win2K looks like crap and is definitely going to need some
getting used to, but I guess that's besides the point!)

Thank you very much.

S.


It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you. 
Let us know if we can be of further help.


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/1/2009 1:36 PM, David Wilkinson wrote [in part]:
 I previously wrote [also in part]:
 
   Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area.
 
 What do you mean by this?
 

I was concerned that some people might see the discussion of [Help 
About SeaMonkey] and assume that they can get the same information by
entering about:SeaMonkey in the address area.

There are a number of about:xxx displays for various values of xxx,
one of which is about:config (mentioned earlier in this thread).
However, about:SeaMonkey is not one of them.  Yet [Help  About
Plugins] gives the same display as about:plugins.

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SM2: Recipient List Differences - Sent vs. Receive

2009-12-01 Thread art
In SM2 during message compose, the list area for recipients is both 
scrollable and manually re-sizable.  However, when reading incoming 
messages, the list area is scrollable only and cannot be re-sized.  The 
area does change in size based on the View Headers setting, but these 
two sizes are fixed.


Is there a setting to change this or is this by design ? It would be 
preferable to have the receive pane/window operate the same as the compose.


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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread S. Beaulieu

Leonidas Jones wrote:


It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you.
Let us know if we can be of further help.



Well, there is only one thing: my fonts in SM (and not elsewhere, it 
semms, but I haven't played much with anything but SM) now look all kind 
of fuzzy/blurry, not as sharp as they were on my old computer. I've 
tried playing with my screen's and Windows' settings, thinking at first 
that it had to do with drivers and such, but it really seems to be 
restricted to SM. Even the font itself looks slightly of different than 
before (which shouldn't be the case, as I didn't change anything on that 
front).


Do you have any ideas what could be causing this? Would it have to do 
with my Appearance settings?


S.
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Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you.
Let us know if we can be of further help.



Well, there is only one thing: my fonts in SM (and not elsewhere, it
semms, but I haven't played much with anything but SM) now look all kind
of fuzzy/blurry, not as sharp as they were on my old computer. I've
tried playing with my screen's and Windows' settings, thinking at first
that it had to do with drivers and such, but it really seems to be
restricted to SM. Even the font itself looks slightly of different than
before (which shouldn't be the case, as I didn't change anything on that
front).

Do you have any ideas what could be causing this? Would it have to do
with my Appearance settings?

S.


Well, I'm a Mac user.  I have Windows boxes, but nothing running Win7 at 
this point. Perhaps a Win  user will jump in.


Lee
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CTRL-U

2009-12-01 Thread John Cunniff
In SeaMonkey 2.0, when I hit CTRL-U for raw header. (Mail  Newsgroups), 
I tried down arrow to move one line, but it acts like END key. I am 
surprised as it jumped down to the end, I didn't want. In old SeaMonkey 
1.1.x, no problem using arrow key. Is this a bug?


Thanks.
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Re: CTRL-U

2009-12-01 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 12/1/2009 4:00 PM, John Cunniff typed the following:
 In SeaMonkey 2.0, when I hit CTRL-U for raw header. (Mail  Newsgroups),
 I tried down arrow to move one line, but it acts like END key. I am
 surprised as it jumped down to the end, I didn't want. In old SeaMonkey
 1.1.x, no problem using arrow key. Is this a bug?
 
 Thanks.
 Johnny :)

Confirmed.  On first use down arrow causes cursor to jump to end.
Subsequent uses of up and down arrow function one line at a time.
SM 2.0  Win XP SP-3

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread David Wilkinson

Bush wrote:


So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer.


About WHAT ?

Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About Seamonkey 
and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view the sites 
that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View .

like the TV guide website .


It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent 
string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does).


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Bush

David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:

So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's 
computer.


About WHAT ?

Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About 
Seamonkey and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view 
the sites that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View .

like the TV guide website .


It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user 
agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does).





 Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed  with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed  with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

 I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an 
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .


 Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
 One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will 
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey  in Front of the TV guide 
page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket .


And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are 
saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18


And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .


Will this Satified All of YOU ?
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:


So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's
computer.


About WHAT ?

Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About
Seamonkey and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view
the sites that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View .
like the TV guide website .


It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user
agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does).



I have to be honest, I'm just not believing this.  I have Sm 1.1.4 
installed on an XP box.  I had installed SM 2, and migrated the profile 
with success.  I left the 1.1.14 install on for test purposes.


The UA reports 1.1.14, as it should, and the TV Guide site does *not* 
work unless I spoof the UA as Firefox.


I am afraid Bush's credibility is a bit low right now. I really dout 
that his wife's computer is showing the site correctly, without either 
spoofing the UA, ofr having IETab installed.  Maybe its the latter, but 
a plain m 1.1.14 on XP will *not* display the site correcty.


I hope others will test, and if I am wrong, I will be glad to be proven so.

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Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...

2009-12-01 Thread Phillip Jones

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/1/2009 2:40 AM PT, Daniel typed:


Sorry, Martin, where do you get outbox from??? Is this something new for
version 2.0?? It doesn't appear, natively, in my SM 1.1.15 (and older)
profile!!


When you use Send Later, where does it go?

Drafts.


On my system, it's always gone to Unsent Messages. No such thing as
Outbox, though that's an understandable description of what Unsent
Messages is.

Drafts is just a temporary holding area for messages you're working
on. If you do File | Send Unsent Messages, anything in Drafts will stay
there.



on Mac there is no unsent messages even in Local directory.
There evidently is an outbox in SM2. There never was such as thing in 
the Mac version SM 1.1.x .


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread David Wilkinson

Bush wrote:
It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user 
agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which 
does).





 Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed  with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed  with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

 I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an 
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .


 Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
 One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will 
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey  in Front of the TV guide 
page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket .


And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are 
saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18


And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .
 
Will this Satified All of YOU ?


I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you 
are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the 
TVGuide site does not work correctly.


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Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...

2009-12-01 Thread Phillip Jones

Martin Freitag wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/1/2009 2:40 AM PT, Daniel typed:


Sorry, Martin, where do you get outbox from??? Is this something new
for
version 2.0?? It doesn't appear, natively, in my SM 1.1.15 (and older)
profile!!


When you use Send Later, where does it go?

Drafts.


On my system, it's always gone to Unsent Messages. No such thing as
Outbox, though that's an understandable description of what Unsent
Messages is.



Yeah, used to be unsent messages in my SM1.x too, it's outbox now
(either because of SM2 or because it's due to my change to IMAP), should
be the same.



Drafts is just a temporary holding area for messages you're working
on. If you do File | Send Unsent Messages, anything in Drafts will stay
there.


cooorect :-)

Martin


Templates is the one where anything put in it stays in it.

Drafts is just that, it where you put your draft and then when you 
choose Edit Message as new and send it. it is sent and move to sent 
messages. It will stay as long as you do nothing with it . But once 
acted on its moved.


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Phillip Jones

David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:

It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user
agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which
does).




  Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed  with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed  with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

  I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .

  Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
  One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey  in Front of the TV guide
page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket .

And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are
saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18

And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .

Will this Satified All of YOU ?


I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you
are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the
TVGuide site does not work correctly.



I went to TV Guide site works for me. SM 2.0 Mac OSX.4.11

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:

It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user
agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which
does).




Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .

Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide
page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket .

And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are
saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18

And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .

Will this Satified All of YOU ?


I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by
what you
are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0
says the
TVGuide site does not work correctly.



I went to TV Guide site works for me. SM 2.0 Mac OSX.4.11



If you go to the program listings, and cick on a show, does it show the 
details, or a white box?


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Bush

David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:
It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the 
user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, 
which does).





 Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed  with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed  with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

 I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an 
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .


 Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
 One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will 
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey  in Front of the TV guide 
page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket .


And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they 
are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18


And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .
 
Will this Satified All of YOU ?


I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by 
what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x 
or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly.


When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site 
.  But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site .


I uninstalled 2.0

reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites .





My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites 
.And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it 
and the info is in a RED box that has a White background




I view it the Same way on my computer as hers .


I do have the Photobucket site Set up
But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer 
is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn 
on the lights .


I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site 
and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line


I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer



http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Bush

Bush wrote:

David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:
It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the 
user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, 
which does).





 Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed  with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed  with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

 I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an 
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .


 Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
 One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will 
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey  in Front of the TV 
guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to 
Photobucket .


And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they 
are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18


And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .
 
Will this Satified All of YOU ?


I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by 
what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 
1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly.


When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site 
.  But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site .


I uninstalled 2.0

reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites .





My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites 
.And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it 
and the info is in a RED box that has a White background




I view it the Same way on my computer as hers .


I do have the Photobucket site Set up
But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer 
is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn 
on the lights .


I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site 
and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line


I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer



http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg 





 This may work better


http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Bush wrote:

David Wilkinson wrote:

Bush wrote:

It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the
user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours,
which does).




Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .

Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV
guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to
Photobucket .

And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they
are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18

And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .

Will this Satified All of YOU ?


I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled
by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version
of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly.


When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide
site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site .

I uninstalled 2.0

reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites .





My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both
Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I
click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background



I view it the Same way on my computer as hers .


I do have the Photobucket site Set up
But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer
is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and
turn on the lights .

I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide
site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next
line

I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer



http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg




This may work better


http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg


Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that 
was never in question.


Lee
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/1/2009 10:17 PM, Bush wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 David Wilkinson wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the
 user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours,
 which does).


 Please follow what I said ...

 We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

 They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14

 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18

 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

 I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an
 account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .

 Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
 One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will
 Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV
 guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to
 Photobucket .

 And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they
 are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18

 And put a link to Each screenshot here .

 This will be Done Tomorrow .

 Will this Satified All of YOU ?
 I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled
 by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version
 of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly.

 When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide
 site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site .

 I uninstalled 2.0

 reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites .





 My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both
 Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I
 click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background



 I view it the Same way on my computer as hers .


 I do have the Photobucket site Set up
 But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer
 is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and
 turn on the lights .

 I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide
 site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next
 line

 I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer



 http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg
  




 This may work better


 http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg
 Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that 
 was never in question.

 Lee
 What does the seamonkey 2.0 about seamonkey Say ?
 
 Does it say Firefox or does it say Seamonkey or Mozilla...

The problem is that, when Web servers sniff for the user agent (UA)
string that identifies the browser, the software doing so fails to
evaluate the context.  That is, finding Firefox in the UA string is
treated as if the browser is Firefox.

Thus, my spoof
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0, NOT Firefox/3.5.3
is treated by the Web server as if I were using Firefox, ignoring both
the NOT in front of the Firefox and the SeaMonkey.  Only a human
looking at the server's raw logs would notice that I'm really using
SeaMonkey.  I must guess, however, that raw server logs are rarely if
ever seen by humans.

You know what my UA string says.  I know what it says.  But the software
on the Web server that is sniffing for the UA string doesn't know what
the whole string says; it only knows that it found Firefox.

You know your browser is SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  From what I see of your
toolbars, I believe you.  But Web servers look at the UA string -- the
line just below the very large SeaMonkey 1.1.18 -- and determine you
are using Firefox 2.0.0.7.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-01 Thread William Morrison

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/1/2009 10:17 PM, Bush wrote:
   

Leonidas Jones wrote:
 

Bush wrote:
   

Bush wrote:
 

David Wilkinson wrote:
   

Bush wrote:
 

It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the
user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours,
which does).

 

Please follow what I said ...

We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ...

They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14

And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18

Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See .

I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an
account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer .

Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer .
One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will
Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV
guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to
Photobucket .

And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they
are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18

And put a link to Each screenshot here .

This will be Done Tomorrow .

Will this Satified All of YOU ?
   

I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled
by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version
of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly.

 

When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide
site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site .

I uninstalled 2.0

reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites .





My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both
Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I
click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background



I view it the Same way on my computer as hers .


I do have the Photobucket site Set up
But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer
is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and
turn on the lights .

I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide
site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next
line

I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer



http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg




   

This may work better


http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg
 

Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that
was never in question.

Lee
   

What does the seamonkey 2.0 about seamonkey Say ?

Does it say Firefox or does it say Seamonkey or Mozilla...
 

The problem is that, when Web servers sniff for the user agent (UA)
string that identifies the browser, the software doing so fails to
evaluate the context.  That is, finding Firefox in the UA string is
treated as if the browser is Firefox.

Thus, my spoof
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0, NOT Firefox/3.5.3
is treated by the Web server as if I were using Firefox, ignoring both
the NOT in front of the Firefox and the SeaMonkey.  Only a human
looking at the server's raw logs would notice that I'm really using
SeaMonkey.  I must guess, however, that raw server logs are rarely if
ever seen by humans.

You know what my UA string says.  I know what it says.  But the software
on the Web server that is sniffing for the UA string doesn't know what
the whole string says; it only knows that it found Firefox.

You know your browser is SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  From what I see of your
toolbars, I believe you.  But Web servers look at the UA string -- the
line just below the very large SeaMonkey 1.1.18 -- and determine you
are using Firefox 2.0.0.7.

   
I'd like to ask a question about what this discussion is going on about. 
Is it possible for someone to download a copy of any version of 
Seamonkey that already has a spoof edited into it, thus causing it to 
report something other than the actual version it is?


--
Big Bill


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