Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:01:02 -0800, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on this project. ...how about some common sense, then? The problem with common sense is that it is actually uncommon. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:58:14 -0800, Rufus wrote: I thought they wanted (and deserve...) feedback when they get it wrong? The itty-bitty buttons on the new Download panes are pretty clearly wrong. Particularly for laptop users. It was right before...make it right again. That seems like common sense, to me. I may have the team at a disadvantage because I DO evaluate human interfaces for software for a living, but my comments still stand - and I hope those whom are coding are listening...to ALL of us whom are not pleased. I have a growing list of gripes I plan to submit formal bug reports against. A real professional qualified UX person! This is great! Rufus could you do us a great favour and read the comments in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513691 (Sanitize redesigned download progress window) And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. Almost all the SeaMonkey developers are actually against the mini buttons. The only person in favour of the mini buttons is, unfortunately, KaiRo, the project co-ordinator. Until now all we have is 100% negative feedback from our users (dismissed by KaiRo as I'm right, everyone else is wrong) and anecdotal evidence from the other developers. Now if a professional human interfaces person like you could come up with some authoritative statement (and the reasoning) about the undesirability of the mini buttons. I'm sure all of us will thank you. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing. * TagZilla 0.066.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE Tab in Windows 7?
On 08/12/2009 13:19, Tom Pamin wrote: Has anyone got the IE Tab to work in Windows 7 64-bit? Try Coral IE Tab instead. http://coralietab.mozdev.org/installation.html [quote] What's New In v1.69.20091202: * [NEW] Preliminary support for SeaMonkey 2. Thank Raoul's help. [/quote] Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:20:41 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote: I imagine the functionality had been in plac e back in the pre FF1.0 days, when they did a similar move of the profile location ( to much gnashing of teeth, I might add). Clearly, there is no need for it in Firefox anymore, so I can understand their desire to remove it. It would be nice maybe to keep in on hand, just as a show of good will, at least through 2.1. Oops. Perhaps I should be clearer. The code removed was the ability to read and hence migrate the old (mork) History format. Nothing else is removed at least deliberately. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:08:12 -0600, John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: All I can say is that I tried several times to install 2.0 over 1.1.18 and it corrupted my iTunes file and would not open. That would suggest that there is a problem moving between the two. What does iTunes have to do with SeaMonkey upgrades? Robert Kaiser That is a damn good question why should SM have anything to do with iTunes but, I can tell you that it did totally destroy my iTunes library. It happened before too but, this time I had a backup. You didn't do something totally stupid and kept your iTunes library inside the SeaMonkey application directory did you? Otherwise SeaMonkey has totally no idea where your iTunes library lives so it would be totally unable to trash it even if it wanted to. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:08:12 -0600, Lou wrote: John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( I can vouch for John. I installed Seamonkey 2.0 and it erased my bank account, destroyed the engine in my car and killed my dog. ;) But at least it didn't email all your passwords to Homeland Security right? Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM active
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:06:10 -0600, JD wrote: I maintain a small word processor file(SeaMonkey.doc) that contains the solutions to the problems I encounter with SeaMonkey. I do this for many of my programs. Sometimes the old brain cells need a little help. 8-) I used to do something like that. These days I just let Google remember it all for me. Phil (We can remember it for you wholesale) -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 08.12.2009 10:51, Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:08:12 -0600, Lou wrote: John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( I can vouch for John. I installed Seamonkey 2.0 and it erased my bank account, destroyed the engine in my car and killed my dog. ;) But at least it didn't email all your passwords to Homeland Security right? Uogh, don't think so, hopefully not. But first time I installed an 2.0.2pre-Build, it does StRAnGe THingS WiTh my cAps-LoCK-kEY. huMM?. Tobias ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Lou wrote: John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( I can vouch for John. I installed Seamonkey 2.0 and it erased my bank account, destroyed the engine in my car and killed my dog. ;) Gee, wish I could blame SM 2.0 for stuffing the engine in MY car!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: /snip/ snip I run iTunes on Windows and Mac's, and SeaMonkey 2.0, now the 2.01 beta, and have noticed anything like this. Work with us, maybe we can help. Lee Lee, I hope you meant ...and have noticed *no*thing like this...! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 08.12.2009 04:55, Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I don't know which. I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. Phillip, I see nothing like this in the tools menu item in SM 2. You can find the Import-Item only in MailNews and Addressbooks Tools-Menu in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, not from an Browser-Window. Tobias ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Leonidas Jones wrote: John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 5:06 PM, John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: /snip/ So if no one can suggest an alternative, that means it was SM's fault? Sir, once again, your logic escapes me. To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!!:o John, i am afraid that logic, in the sense you want to use it, does not apply to computers. There is no clear link between SeaMonkey and iTunes, indeed, none at all. SeaMonkey simply could not be causing this problem, it is clearly something else. By your logic, if I pat my cat, and a vase falls from a shelf, patting the cat caused the vase to fall. Computers, and, for that matter, life are simply not that simplistic. Lee Lee, is it possible that, using SM 1.1.18, John was able to go to iTunes, select a tune and have it play through his computers speakers, but John either cannot get to iTunes using SM 2.0 (no bookmark) or doesn't have the appropriate helper application/whatever installed into SM 2.0?? (Just searching for possible reasons it didn't work) Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cache Path
Cedar wrote: Ummmaybe I should give more details: My profile's cache is in: C:\Documents and Settings\my comp\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\my profile My SM profile is in: C:\Documents and Settings\my comp\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\my profile Is this normal for the cache to be in this directory, or should it be in the SM profile's directory? Or does it even matter? Yes, this is normal. The Local Settings path is for files that shouldn't be synchronised as part of a (Windows Domain) roaming profile. You'll probably see other cache files in there too. Mark, who used to administer an NT4 domain with roaming profiles... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Snipping posts] was (Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.)
NoOp wrote: On 12/07/2009 04:43 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: ... In that case, my space-bar is requesting profit sharing from you ;-P ... Most *support* Groups prefer no snipping what so ever so that threading can be maintained, to determine what steps in solving a problem have been tried. If its in a groups where conversation is going on then Snipping is acceptable. I just add the 'Lines' column, and if the lines are over 50 I just mark the msg as read and skip over it... unless of course I am aware that the msg may have data in it that pertains to the issue. snip Like you, NoOp, I have the Lines column showing, and I just go down the posts until I see the number of Lines decrease, indicating that Snipping has occured. Then I select the post with the greatest number of Lines, e.g. prior to my post in this thread, the posts had 125 lines (Phillip) which I read, 31 lines (Martin) which I read, 9 (Hartmut), 15 (Martin), 32 (Phillip) and then your post of 33 lines which I read, snipped and replied to. Usually works, except when people snip a lot, then reply a lot or have big Sig blocks (the tag ANT springs to mind, here). Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cache Path
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 2:56 PM, Cedar wrote: Oh Boy! U...maybe it's me missing something here, but.I know where my profile is keeping it's cache, but since it's in a different directory than my SM profile, I'm wondering if it's in the correct place or notFrom my previous post above, please note difference in the two paths: one has a folder called local settings, the other does not! If you're asking how it got that way, I can't answer. Perhaps someone else can if you make that point clear. I don't see how it can be a problem to have it pointing to a directory not in/under your profile directory, as I expect that is why the application allows you to change it. In fact, I can see that someone may want to place the cache in a file system that has plenty of space, so you don't need to limit the maximum size of the cache. Best Regards, And another good reason to *NOT* have the cache in the same location as the profile is that when you back-up your profile, you don't necessarily want to save all you cache info. I don't know that it would make much difference where the Cache folder actually is, except for hard drive ware and tare!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 5:06 PM, John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: /snip/ So if no one can suggest an alternative, that means it was SM's fault? Sir, once again, your logic escapes me. To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!!:o John, i am afraid that logic, in the sense you want to use it, does not apply to computers. There is no clear link between SeaMonkey and iTunes, indeed, none at all. SeaMonkey simply could not be causing this problem, it is clearly something else. By your logic, if I pat my cat, and a vase falls from a shelf, patting the cat caused the vase to fall. Computers, and, for that matter, life are simply not that simplistic. Lee Lee, is it possible that, using SM 1.1.18, John was able to go to iTunes, select a tune and have it play through his computers speakers, but John either cannot get to iTunes using SM 2.0 (no bookmark) or doesn't have the appropriate helper application/whatever installed into SM 2.0?? (Just searching for possible reasons it didn't work) Daniel Thinking this as well, just a simple plugin might be missing (?) Mark -- http://www.masadsign.nl/logout/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I transfer my spell checker in netscap eto Seamonkey
Acharya Swami Rudra Kali Das wrote: Hi, I just downloaded seamonkey 1.1.18 for my mom, She had Netscape 7.2 for years. And She was using the spell checker while composing an email and it did not have the spell checker dictionary that was there from Netscape. Can anyone help me figure out how to transfer the spell check from Netscape 7.2 to Seamonkey? Thankyou, Rudra Rudra, when you run the Spell Checker, you get the option to Download more Dictionaries. Download and Install the new dictionary then do a Windows Find Folder/File, looking for persdict (without the quotes). Persdict.dat is the file where your mother special words/spellings are saved. The newest one should/might be a blank one created by the installation of the new dictionary. Select the next newest one and copy/paste to when the new one is. Then she should be right to go. HTH Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit msg as new SM 2.0.1
Leonidas Jones wrote: BeeNeR wrote: When editing e-mail as new and changing 'to' address SeaMonkey 2.0.1 hangs. Reverting back to 2.0 it works fine. Seems to be working fine in 2.0.1 form ehre. Lee Lee, does ehre mean the SM 2.0.1 spell check is faulty?? (I'd also mention form, but that is a word, too.) Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How do I transfer my spell checker in netscap eto Seamonkey
Thanks for your reply, I found that the netscape file is custom.dic I can't figure out how to tfansfer this data to the persdict.dat file? Any ideas? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.18 Stops Working in Win 7
Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm using Windows 7 64-bit and SM 1.18 crashes quite often. It just gives me the message that SM has stopped working. Do I need a special 64-bit version of SM? The file referenced in the crash is gkwidget.dll. As one who is looking a purchasing a new laptop before Christmas, and looking at getting a 64 bit one with Windows 7 on it, I'll have to keep an eye on this thread. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit msg as new SM 2.0.1
On or about 12/7/2009 10:44 PM, Leonidas Jones typed the following: BeeNeR wrote: When editing e-mail as new and changing 'to' address SeaMonkey 2.0.1 hangs. Reverting back to 2.0 it works fine. Seems to be working fine in 2.0.1 form ehre. Lee Reinstalled 2.0.1 - Here's the Build Info: about:buildconfig *Source* Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/rev/a31ccbb61076 *Build platform* target i686-pc-mingw32 *Build tools* CompilerVersion Compiler flags cl 14.00.50727.762 -TC -nologo -W3 -Gy -Fdgenerated.pdb -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -O1 cl 14.00.50727.762 -GR- -TP -nologo -Zc:wchar_t- -W3 -Gy -Fdgenerated.pdb -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -O1 *Configure arguments* --enable-application=suite --enable-update-channel=release --enable-update-packaging --enable-jemalloc --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-application=suite --enable-update-channel=release --enable-update-packaging --enable-jemalloc --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-application=../suite --disable-official-branding --with-branding=../suite/branding/nightly --disable-debug --enable-optimize --cache-file=.././config.cache --srcdir=/e/builds/slave/win32_build/build/mozilla Same results - unable to use Message/Edit Message As New After highlighting and deleting the To line then typing 1 or two characters SeaMonkey hangs (Not Responding). It appears as though the hang occurs once SM has enough characters to complete the new address. Perhaps in the routine that looks up addresses while typing. PAUSE WHILE I TRY SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME TO ME I disenabled the 'Address Autocomplete' option. It now works fine and lets me enter the entire address manually without a hangup. Now I'm going to enable 'Look for matching entries in local address books'. SM hung - Not Responding This, to me, would verify that somewhere in the address lookup routine there's a problem. I have captured the memory dump information that would have normally been sent to Microsoft. Anyone want a copy of the four files? Manifest.txt file of dump is: Server=watson.microsoft.com UI LCID=1033 Flags=1672016 Brand=WINDOWS TitleName=seamonkey.exe DigPidRegPath=HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\DigitalProductId ErrorText=The program is not responding. HeaderText=You chose to end the nonresponsive program, seamonkey.exe. EventLogSource=Application Hang Stage1URL= Stage1URL=/StageOne/seamonkey_exe/1_9_1_3627/hungapp/0_0_0_0/.htm Stage2URL= Stage2URL=/dw/stagetwo.asp?szAppName=seamonkey.exeszAppVer=1.9.1.3627szModName=hungappszModVer=0.0.0.0offset= DataFiles=C:\DOCUME~1\ed\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER5b76.dir00\seamonkey.exe.mdmp|C:\DOCUME~1\ed\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER5b76.dir00\appcompat.txt Heap=C:\DOCUME~1\ed\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER5b76.dir00\seamonkey.exe.hdmp ErrorSubPath=seamonkey.exe\1.9.1.3627\hungapp\0.0.0.0\ DirectoryDelete=C:\DOCUME~1\ed\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER5b76.dir00 This should be a show stopper for 2.0.1 -- Ed My girlfriend said I never listen to her, or something ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
John Boyle wrote: [...] All yelling has been deleted, so nothing is left to display! John, do you really have to yell all the time? That you're unnecessarily strident is one thing, but all those caps are annoying! keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit msg as new SM 2.0.1
Thought that I best add this bit of information: In addition to the 'Personal Address Book' I have 15 others. Hmmm - that makes 16 or one more that F in some computer codes. Perhaps there-in lies the problem. (Although it would seem that there would have been problems in earlier versions). -- Ed I don't do comedy, I do politics, which sometimes is one and the same. ~Dan Rather ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mail threading question...
Hartmut Figge schrieb: pref(mail.correct_threading, true); // if true, makes sure threading works correctly always (see bug 181446) --- Hahaha, that prefname sounds so great! xD Whenever I have a problem with a webpage, I should invent pref(browser.correct_display, true) *nmuhahaha* Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.18 Stops Working in Win 7
Daniel schrieb: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm using Windows 7 64-bit and SM 1.18 crashes quite often. It just gives me the message that SM has stopped working. Do I need a special 64-bit version of SM? The file referenced in the crash is gkwidget.dll. As one who is looking a purchasing a new laptop before Christmas, and looking at getting a 64 bit one with Windows 7 on it, I'll have to keep an eye on this thread. AFAIK it's recommended to run SM2.x on WinVista and Win7 for better compatibility. (the 32bit version should do just fine though) Has something to do with the xpcom (which is not even present at SM2? in that case it can't crash ;-P) regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Tobias Fischer wrote: On 08.12.2009 04:55, Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I don't know which. I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. Phillip, I see nothing like this in the tools menu item in SM 2. You can find the Import-Item only in MailNews and Addressbooks Tools-Menu in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, not from an Browser-Window. Tobias Sure, Import is there, but nothing like what Phillip describes, as far as importing from an earlier SeaMonkey profile. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 08.12.2009 13:24, Leonidas Jones wrote: Tobias Fischer wrote: On 08.12.2009 04:55, Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I don't know which. I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. Phillip, I see nothing like this in the tools menu item in SM 2. You can find the Import-Item only in MailNews and Addressbooks Tools-Menu in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, not from an Browser-Window. Tobias Sure, Import is there, but nothing like what Phillip describes, as far as importing from an earlier SeaMonkey profile. Ah, sure, sorry that I have missed the point. At least I have imported some .csv-Files, and not read all of the Dialog. So it was really needed to start the Migration Wizard via command-line if someone has to import more than one Profiles-Data. Tobias ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit msg as new SM 2.0.1
On or about 12/8/2009 7:13 AM, BeeNeR typed the following: Thought that I best add this bit of information: In addition to the 'Personal Address Book' I have 15 others. Hmmm - that makes 16 or one more that F in some computer codes. Perhaps there-in lies the problem. (Although it would seem that there would have been problems in earlier versions). That's the problem! Deleted one address book and it works fine. Seems like more than 15 user address book is the problem. Will someone please file a bug on this? -- Ed A tree never hits an automobile except in self defense. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.18 Stops Working in Win 7
Martin Freitag wrote: Daniel schrieb: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm using Windows 7 64-bit and SM 1.18 crashes quite often. It just gives me the message that SM has stopped working. Do I need a special 64-bit version of SM? The file referenced in the crash is gkwidget.dll. As one who is looking a purchasing a new laptop before Christmas, and looking at getting a 64 bit one with Windows 7 on it, I'll have to keep an eye on this thread. AFAIK it's recommended to run SM2.x on WinVista and Win7 for better compatibility. (the 32bit version should do just fine though) Has something to do with the xpcom (which is not even present at SM2? in that case it can't crash ;-P) regards Martin 2.0 is not an option for me, like many others, until the Form Manager is returned. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM2 is NOT Junk! ;)
I have now used SM2 intensively in the last 7 hours, since I installed it on my Vista Business. So far all so good! My main concern was if I could find the extensions I badly want to have compatible, but that was the least problem! I don't need many, and all installed smoothly when I managed to find them. ;) Even the experimental version of the new Swedish dictionary installed perfectly and works. I picked that because SM refused to install the older versions as not compatible. I had to copy and paste the plugin's (.dll files) for embedded WMP movies from SM1 to SM2. But instead I was positively surprised that I now could watch (flash) movies on two newspaper's sites, where it previously was impossible to do with SM1. And that happen without my need to do anything after the install of SM2! :D Wanted to share this, with a big THANKS GUYS! to the developers! I'll get back IF I found something to complain about, or at least need an advise in some matter, and I keep my SM1 for some time yet just in case. :D -- /Arne from Sweden ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
can SM 2.0 and 1.1.18 co exist?
I would like to upgrade to 2.0 and start trying it but there is at least one extension that does not work in 2.0 that is a near show stopper for me. That said I am also having issues in 1.1.18 that I hear were corrected in 2.0. Can I install SM in a different directory and use Mozbackup or some such to clone the profiles to each? This way I can run both versions on the same machine. I realize moving forward from the clone they will have different bookmarks etc, but that is fine. Will 2.0 1.1.18 coexist on the same machine and play well? What happens with the user profiles in this situation? Do they share or can they be separated? Hawker ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit msg as new SM 2.0.1
BeeNeR schrieb: On or about 12/8/2009 7:13 AM, BeeNeR typed the following: Thought that I best add this bit of information: In addition to the 'Personal Address Book' I have 15 others. Hmmm - that makes 16 or one more that F in some computer codes. Perhaps there-in lies the problem. (Although it would seem that there would have been problems in earlier versions). That's the problem! Deleted one address book and it works fine. Seems like more than 15 user address book is the problem. Will someone please file a bug on this? You?! ;-P -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.18 Stops Working in Win 7
Tom Pamin wrote: 2.0 is not an option for me, like many others, until the Form Manager is returned. And 1.1.x isn't really supported on Vista or Win7. Go figure. Perhaps you should at least give the 2.0 form management a try? Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Philip Chee wrote: Oops. Perhaps I should be clearer. The code removed was the ability to read and hence migrate the old (mork) History format. That's wrong. Sorry, but the browsing history still can be read in 1.9.2 from all I know. Only download history can't. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. We all know that the current design isn't really good (though I am convinced it's better than the old design overall). What I'm missing in all that discussion is constructive ideas how to make it really good. The only suggested option I heard so far is killing the progress windows completely, and I think that would make more people unhappy than the current design. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Philip Chee wrote, On 12/8/2009 10:31 AM: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. Almost all the SeaMonkey developers are actually against the mini buttons. The only person in favour of the mini buttons is, unfortunately, KaiRo, the project co-ordinator. Until now all we have is 100% negative feedback from our users (dismissed by KaiRo as I'm right, everyone else is wrong) and anecdotal evidence from the other developers. adding a (very...) small percentage of the many people that DO NOT express their opinion often and DO NOT jump up to any protest, I find: - Seamonkey 2.0 as a whole a pretty good and efficient product, for me, my personal and professional use. - The download manager with its small buttons not an annoyance at all. - The migration process working mostly (although I advise from time to time to redo your SM profile, in order to start from a clean state (specially after adding or removing many add-ons, extensions and doing changes to the defaults...). Hope this voicing of a SM user who is 99% satisfied helps re-balance the strong voicing we tend to see a bit too much here Keep cool all... Dominique ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Ed Jones wrote: On or about 12/7/2009 9:16 PM, John Boyle typed the following: NoOp wrote: On 12/07/2009 05:06 PM, John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: All I can say is that I tried several times to install 2.0 over 1.1.18 and it corrupted my iTunes file and would not open. That would suggest that there is a problem moving between the two. What does iTunes have to do with SeaMonkey upgrades? ... That is a damn good question why should SM have anything to do with iTunes but, I can tell you that it did totally destroy my iTunes library. It happened before too but, this time I had a backup. No, installing SM 2.0 could not affect your iTunes library, there is something else at work here. Lee Then give me some suggestions, there is nothing in event viewer to suggest that anything other SM2 was running. You were given suggestions in the previous thread that you posted about regarding this. I seem to recall that you never responded, but that would take going back to look I'm not inclined to do that just now. *Nothing* in installing SeaMonkey should or could have affected your itunes library. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( John, perhaps you'd care to tell us where you live? We might be able to find a volunteer to see you and straighten out this problem. Apparently it's not going to get resolved in this news group. Fargo,ND ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Robert Kaiser wrote: John Boyle wrote: INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS No, the only thing we really know is that is sometimes doesn't import SeaMonkey 1.x profiles, but we haven't got any information whatsoever that it reproducibly destroyed anything at all (and I ignore your rudeness of writing all-caps messages). Robert Kaiser Water off a Ducks back. I am wondering if it is because I have SM installed in Documents and Settings? Perhaps I should try Program Files. The interesting thing is though when SM2 installs it does not look anything look 1.1.18. There is a box that says something like installing (or) updating GRE and then it is finished--that is a box comes up and says Finished. When the shortcut is clicked nothing happens. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:16 PM, John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 has destroyed anything? I would say that when I open iTunes and it is totally without files then yes. The only thing that happened that was not normal was the attempted installation of SM2. What would you conclude from that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: /snip/ That is a damn good question why should SM have anything to do with iTunes but, I can tell you that it did totally destroy my iTunes library. It happened before too but, this time I had a backup. No, installing SM 2.0 could not affect your iTunes library, there is something else at work here. Lee Then give me some suggestions, there is nothing in event viewer to suggest that anything other SM2 was running. Post a whole lot more information. What is your exact version of Windows, describe the scenario in which your iTunes library was destroyed, and tell us exactly what happens when you try to open it. I run iTunes on Windows and Mac's, and SeaMonkey 2.0, now the 2.01 beta, and have noticed anything like this. Work with us, maybe we can help. Lee Win XP Pro SP3 RAID HD configuration, 64 bit Asus processor on an Asus A8V MOBO, so far as I know all the files in the iTunes music folder disappeared. It maybe that iTunes was open when I installed SM2 but, I really do not know if that should be a problem. I would have thought that if having open programs was a known problem I would have gotten a message to close all open applications. When iTunes opens there is nothing there i.e. no music files, no podcasts and no videos. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Leonidas Jones wrote: John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 5:06 PM, John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: /snip/ So if no one can suggest an alternative, that means it was SM's fault? Sir, once again, your logic escapes me. To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!!:o John, i am afraid that logic, in the sense you want to use it, does not apply to computers. There is no clear link between SeaMonkey and iTunes, indeed, none at all. SeaMonkey simply could not be causing this problem, it is clearly something else. By your logic, if I pat my cat, and a vase falls from a shelf, patting the cat caused the vase to fall. Computers, and, for that matter, life are simply not that simplistic. Lee I think that you are wrong. If no downloads, files or any other computer operation is running except the install of SM2 and it clearly fails since SM does not work after the install and iTunes is corrupted, the only conclusion I can draw from that is that SM was the problem ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:20 PM, John Boyle wrote: To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!! :o How about this John? Let's say you get home and park your car in the driveway, then go in the house. 10 minutes later, you look out the front window and see a neighbor kid walking past your house. Another 10 minutes later, you go outside and see that one of your tires has been slashed. Did the neighbor kid do it? apples and oranges ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Lou wrote: John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( I can vouch for John. I installed Seamonkey 2.0 and it erased my bank account, destroyed the engine in my car and killed my dog. ;) ROTFL! Sorry about your dog! ;) That's the attitude I read his posts with now... if I read them at all. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Phillip Jones wrote: This is a subject that has been gone over from time to time. In most groups sniping is recommended. Don't shoot me! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On or about 12/8/2009 10:25 AM, John typed the following: Ed Jones wrote: S N I P John, perhaps you'd care to tell us where you live? We might be able to find a volunteer to see you and straighten out this problem. Apparently it's not going to get resolved in this news group. Fargo,ND Sorry John, that let's me out. Although I did spend some time in Sioux Falls area at the EROS Data Center years ago. -- Ed If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On or about 12/8/2009 10:25 AM, John typed the following: Ed Jones wrote: On or about 12/7/2009 9:16 PM, John Boyle typed the following: NoOp wrote: On 12/07/2009 05:06 PM, John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: All I can say is that I tried several times to install 2.0 over 1.1.18 and it corrupted my iTunes file and would not open. That would suggest that there is a problem moving between the two. What does iTunes have to do with SeaMonkey upgrades? ... That is a damn good question why should SM have anything to do with iTunes but, I can tell you that it did totally destroy my iTunes library. It happened before too but, this time I had a backup. No, installing SM 2.0 could not affect your iTunes library, there is something else at work here. Lee Then give me some suggestions, there is nothing in event viewer to suggest that anything other SM2 was running. You were given suggestions in the previous thread that you posted about regarding this. I seem to recall that you never responded, but that would take going back to look I'm not inclined to do that just now. *Nothing* in installing SeaMonkey should or could have affected your itunes library. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( John, perhaps you'd care to tell us where you live? We might be able to find a volunteer to see you and straighten out this problem. Apparently it's not going to get resolved in this news group. Fargo,ND Nope, I can't do it - When I was with the U.S.A.F. I spent some time in Fortuna, ND. Not there anymore. Anyone here from around the Fargo area that can help him? Ed -- Ed Good friends are hard to find, harder to leave, and impossible to forget. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 12/8/2009 7:31 AM, John wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:16 PM, John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 has destroyed anything? I would say that when I open iTunes and it is totally without files then yes. The only thing that happened that was not normal was the attempted installation of SM2. What would you conclude from that? The fact that you can't see anything else, does not mean it was SM. You seem unable to see this. Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 12/8/2009 7:50 AM, John wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:20 PM, John Boyle wrote: To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!! :o How about this John? Let's say you get home and park your car in the driveway, then go in the house. 10 minutes later, you look out the front window and see a neighbor kid walking past your house. Another 10 minutes later, you go outside and see that one of your tires has been slashed. Did the neighbor kid do it? apples and oranges Unfortunately, your response doesn't surprise me in the least. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I transfer my spell checker in netscap eto Seamonkey
Acharya Swami Rudra Kali Das wrote: Thanks for your reply, I found that the netscape file is custom.dic I can't figure out how to tfansfer this data to the persdict.dat file? Any ideas? Who are you responding to? There seems no threading here, and without a quote of some of the relevant discussion, your post means little. Please quote at least enpough to give context to your post. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can SM 2.0 and 1.1.18 co exist?
OBones wrote: SM2 will import SM1.1.18 profiles just fine. And after that you have tow independent installations, provided you installed them in a different folder. That's what I have here, it works just fine, no need for any third party tool Well, 2.0 will import profiles fine in most cases. There have been enough problems reported to be cautious, though, in any event, the old profile remains intact even if the transfer is not complete. SM 2.0, by default, installs in a different location then SM 1.18. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is SeaMonket 2.0.2?
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:56:34 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: I have been running 2.0.1pre for a while to get the fix for NNTP posting badness. Now I'm told there's a security upgrade to 2.0.2pre. Is there any intention of releasing 2.01 before adding a bunch of new untested changes and calling it 2.0.2? Or should I just stop at the working version I have and be happy? Due to the way the release automation scripts work. Whenever a release branch (e.g. 2.0.1) is cut, the tip of the branch is automatically bumped to the smallest next increment e.g. 2.0.2pre. If you are on the nightly branch channel you'll get updated to the latest tip rather to any of the relbranch side branches. Sounds like I should just run the last 2.0.1pre and be happy. It works, I use it on almost all my machines (unless forms are needed or I have multiple profiles), and I was looking for something which worked not new features. Thanks for the clarification. Similarly if/when a new major branch is cut from the trunk (e.g. 2.1) the tip of the trunk will be bumped to e.g. 2.2a1pre (unless you are firefox where you get silly progressions like 2.0 - 2.5 - 3.0 - 3.5 - 3.6 - 3.7 - 4.0) It's all the same code as SeaMonkey, though, just in a different package. Be glad they didn't pick something like mersine primes for version numbers. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: message filters
Smiles wrote: Good day one of my email accounts is being hit by over 20 emails daily with ? marks of different length in subject and sender field. if I save one as text it is blank, so I set up a filter up to send all to trash by setting from value a a single '?' but nothing gets filtered out I'll take a wild guess that if you save the message and look at the actual data, that either an odd character set is being used, or one with a high bit set. In any case, it uses ? to note a character it can't display. A filter option for character sets other than a few user provided defaults would be useful. Running Linux I can do that filtering upstream of the user agent, so I just see it as a crap count in rejects. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - A Mac User's Observations
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Like many people who don't quite understand the NNTP protocol and equate it to mail or web or mailing list or something they thought up, you are confusing DELETE (move to trash or just erase) with CANCEL (send NNTP CANCEL message, attempt to remove this from every server everywhere). Oddly, people delete mail from their mailbox and don't expect all other cc recipients will lose their copy. That's the way the news reader should work, I don't want to see this headers in the header list any more, I'm not interested. If the message is downloaded, get rid of it. Just like mail. SeaMonkey can take a delete rule in a message filter and not get excited because it's not my message, why can't news work right? The conceptual problem is old, whoever wrote the key bindings bound delete to mean cancel, k to mean throw away this thread, and no obvious way to just throw the message away. I would love to have news work as mail, and add some additional command to actually attempt to sent the CANCEL. News does work right. The fundamental difference between news and mail is that news messages do not belong to you (except of course your own posts). So they are not deleted when you download them (POP3 model), and you have no right to delete them on the server (IMAP model). What you /can/ do is hide them (e.g. by killing the thread or marking them as read), and that's why this group's 11,434 messages look to me like 26. No, the NNTP interface to DELETE is to try to send a CANCEL message, whereas the mail function of DELETE is a local removal to junk or the bit bucket. Having the same key do very different things in news and mail was a bad design decision, and the user can't remap keys because there's no function (unless it's undocumented) to mark a message never show me other than the K function which hides the whole thread. If I were designing this over, I would have a delete subthread capability to hide a post and any reply with a references header including the evil post. I am neither asking for nor offering to write that, just saying that it would be vastly useful for people who hijack threads or deflect the topic. I believe that the functions of news and mail should do the same thing, and that there should be a way to not see something, by erading the headers as well as marking it read. Unless you're a total idiot who constantly posts stupid $#!+ (and I don't think you are), chances are you really don't need to /delete/ all your messages, just the occasional misfire. And a filter isn't the right tool for that, it takes wetware. On the other hand, I would find it convenient to be able to plonk certain writers (or should I say wrongers?) without having to sift through a hundred messages or so every day for their names... And you can do that in a filter before you see the post, once it's read you can only hide all unread. There are reasons for not doing that, too. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 replaces 1.18 without my asking it to
Mike C wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Serge Popper wrote: When I first installed 2.0 on my Windows, XP, home edition laptop, I found out that RoboForm does not support Seamonkey 2.0 yet. I went back to Seamonkey 1.18. Strangely, 2.0, without my doing anything, keeps replacing 1.18. I went in to Preferences, Advanced and unchecked Automatically check for updates to: SeaMonkey and Installed Add-ons. This morning, when I booted up, sure enough, SeaMonkey 1.18 had been replaced, yet again, by 2.0 How can I stop this? May be by uninstalling SM2 ? (after going back to 1.1.18) May be by uninstalling SM2 ? Then re-install 1.1.18 I uninstalled SM 2 first Then reinstalled SM 1.1.18 It worked perfectly! Mike C Uninstalled 2.0, 1.8 was already installed. 2.0 has stopped taking over. Thanks for suggestion. Serge ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Benoit Renard wrote: John wrote: Philip Chee wrote: You didn't do something totally stupid and kept your iTunes library inside the SeaMonkey application directory did you? Otherwise SeaMonkey has totally no idea where your iTunes library lives so it would be totally unable to trash it even if it wanted to. Phil They are in the same directory but not the same folder Err, a directory is the same thing as a folder. What do you mean? Maybe that under that the folder called SeaMonkey and the folder called iTunes both are in the folder called, for example, Programs? No so. Program Files is a Directory and for example SeaMonkey is in a folder within the directory. In any event SM did install properly after I removed 1.1.18 completely but, all the music in iTunes is gone. There has to be some sort of relationship between these two items i.e. SM2 and iTunes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.18 Stops Working in Win 7
Robert Kaiser wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: 2.0 is not an option for me, like many others, until the Form Manager is returned. And 1.1.x isn't really supported on Vista or Win7. Go figure. Perhaps you should at least give the 2.0 form management a try? Robert Kaiser There isn't none to speak of, without the aid of an extension. Despite the simple instructions on how to correct mistakes in the so called native manager, they don't work. Since you (the developers) don't have the desire, willingness, or people to put the Forms manger equivalent of 1.1.18 into SM2, buy off the fellow that created extension Forms History manager and have him integrate it in to SM2. You'll get a lot of people back, that are staying away because of it. I moved on to SM2 despite its failings because if I stayed behind there would be a point I could not move and stat over. and with all the sub-directories I have in one of my email accounts it would days before I could rebuild them. So I had little choice. You did fix a long standing problem for the mac version since SM 1.1.2, where hitting Command-S brings up the Save As... menu and hitting Command-S actually saves the item. At the time I was told in updating it broke a widget and you wouldn't have the time or personnel to fix it until work began on SM 2 that was years ago. I just hope that widget isn't broken with the next update. And it has to wait to SM 3 before its fixed again. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 12/8/2009 10:44 AM, John wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: John wrote: Philip Chee wrote: You didn't do something totally stupid and kept your iTunes library inside the SeaMonkey application directory did you? Otherwise SeaMonkey has totally no idea where your iTunes library lives so it would be totally unable to trash it even if it wanted to. Phil They are in the same directory but not the same folder Err, a directory is the same thing as a folder. What do you mean? Maybe that under that the folder called SeaMonkey and the folder called iTunes both are in the folder called, for example, Programs? No so. Program Files is a Directory and for example SeaMonkey is in a folder within the directory. In any event SM did install properly after I removed 1.1.18 completely but, all the music in iTunes is gone. There has to be some sort of relationship between these two items i.e. SM2 and iTunes. Actually, they are all directories. Microsoft starting calling directories folders because of the icon they used to represent them. So, the two terms have become interchangeable. Directories are hierarchical, in that a directory can contain a directory, which itself can contain a directory, etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Hartmut Figge wrote: Let's just hope someone will come up with some sort of migration tool extension. In what bug the ability was removed? The ability to import the old download history format was removed with: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472924 HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I transfer my spell checker in netscap eto Seamonkey
Leonidas Jones wrote: Acharya Swami Rudra Kali Das wrote: Thanks for your reply, I found that the netscape file is custom.dic I can't figure out how to tfansfer this data to the persdict.dat file? Any ideas? Who are you responding to? There seems no threading here, and without a quote of some of the relevant discussion, your post means little. Please quote at least enpough to give context to your post. Lee someones clock is off. Danial Replied 9 minutes before Acharya did the original post, According to the Headers . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT question
Leonidas Jones wrote: Norvin wrote: Since I installed SM 2, my newsgroup keeps asking me for my user name and password. The user name I know, but the password was never a part of the sign in procedure. Below is the newsgroup and I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions. Thanks news.eternal-september.org news.eternal-september.org does require both a username and password for access. When you registered, you should have received an email with that information. Use the following link to retrieve your password: http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=recoverplanguage=en Lee That sounds like it requires authentication. It sounds like it works similar to annexcafe.com. You have to in server settings tick requires authentication. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I don't know which. I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. Phillip, I see nothing like this in the tools menu item in SM 2. Lee Its not called such: Choose import from tools menu then if its first time choose all. then when you begin it will ask SM1.1, FireFox, Thunderbird You choose and it migrates the appropriate items. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 7:42 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 5:38 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 2:01 PM, John wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 10:49 AM, John wrote: Apparently migration from 1.18 to 2.0 is not supported either and it (2.0 install) wiped out my iTunes files. What!? Migration from 1.1.18 (I assume that is the release you meant) to 2.0 is not supported? All I can say is that I tried several times to install 2.0 over 1.1.18 and it corrupted my iTunes file and would not open. That would suggest that there is a problem moving between the two. So this means SeaMonkey does not support migration from 1.1.18 to 2.0? Sir, your logic escapes me. No they are talking about there is a Migration assistant to go from 1.1.18 to 2.0, but if you are dumb enough to wait until 2.1 to jump. then you be unable to bring over your files automatically unless you manually do so. Are you responding to the correct post? John clearly said that SeaMonkey doesn't support migration from 1.1.18 to 2.0. I was responding to that. I don't know which. I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. when window open choose all If you haven't setup anything. or click everything in the list then it will have you choose which application SM 1.1, FireFox, or Thunderbird. Are you sure that's how you initiate the migration wizard in SM 2.0? I understood it differently. Have you actually done this? But that there will not be one sufficient to import from SM 1.1.18. everything. Part of it will be removed and will continue to be until 1.1.18 is but a distant memory. Sorry, you've completely lost me here. I have no idea what you're trying to say. I'm saying for now history data will be remove in migration manager so all your history will be left and not migrated. As other components are changed that portion will too be left out. Until the point to migrate anything you'll have to do it manually. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I transfer my spell checker in netscap eto Seamonkey
Acharya Swami Rudra Kali Das wrote: I found that the netscape file is custom.dic I can't figure out how to tfansfer this data to the persdict.dat file? I don't know the format of custom.dic but persdict.dat is a simple UTF-8 ASCII file where each word is on its own line and lines are terminated by a UNIX newline character (LF). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Tobias Fischer wrote: On 08.12.2009 04:55, Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I don't know which. I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. Phillip, I see nothing like this in the tools menu item in SM 2. You can find the Import-Item only in MailNews and Addressbooks Tools-Menu in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, not from an Browser-Window. Tobias http://www.phillipmjones.net/ImportWizzard.png http://www.phillipmjones.net/ToolsMenu.png in my case All is greyed out because I have already used it to migrate SM1.1.18 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Domains and IP Addresses
David E. Ross wrote: Does SeaMonkey cache the translation from a domain name to an IP address? If so, how can I clear that cache? That's done by Domain Name Service (DNS), and the length of time the record remains cached on your PC is called the Time-to-Live (TTL). That's part of the data passed to your cache from the DNS server that resolves the name-vs-IP request. There are 3 ways to clear it: *-at a command prompt, type 'ipconfig /flushdns', then Enter *-reboot your PC *-wait for the TTL value to render the cache contents invalid (default is normally 1 hour) After any of those events, the next time you want to navigate to a page, that page's IP address must be resolved through DNS again. This gives you a fresh entry in your cache, and the whole cycle starts over. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Leonidas Jones wrote: Tobias Fischer wrote: On 08.12.2009 04:55, Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I don't know which. I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. Phillip, I see nothing like this in the tools menu item in SM 2. You can find the Import-Item only in MailNews and Addressbooks Tools-Menu in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, not from an Browser-Window. Tobias Sure, Import is there, but nothing like what Phillip describes, as far as importing from an earlier SeaMonkey profile. Lee I'm not imagining things I used it to import from SM1.1.8 You have to do it as soon as you first open it. http://www.phillipmjones.net/MigrationManager.png (click the link) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I transfer my spell checker in netscap eto Seamonkey
Jens Hatlak wrote: Acharya Swami Rudra Kali Das wrote: I found that the netscape file is custom.dic I can't figure out how to tfansfer this data to the persdict.dat file? I don't know the format of custom.dic but persdict.dat is a simple UTF-8 ASCII file where each word is on its own line and lines are terminated by a UNIX newline character (LF). HTH Jens Custom. dic is same thing. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Address book nicknames don't work as before
Prior to 2.0, typing a nickname into the To line when composing a message would retrieve the address with that nickname. Now, addresses that start with that nickname show up as a selection before the desired address. For instance, my nickname is jjo. That used to bring up my address and insert it into the To line. Now, there are two selections. The first is someone whose email address is jjo...@... that is followed by a selection for my address. I don't want selections; if I have assigned a nickname, it should take priority over all others. My workaround is to start the nickname with a space, then as there are no full addresses that start with a space, the nickname is the only selection. However, I want the Version 1 behavior back; how can I accomplish that? Jay O'Brien ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP problems - FIX
Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: OTOH the average user won't have to care about the two prefs that caused the problem here once the bug fix is available as part of the next release. Do you have any idea how elitist that sounds? Maybe you just got me wrong, please read on. Dozens of people have filed bugs, discussed this on servers, in chat rooms, and on other mailing lists. But they're just average users, and because this stuff means their user agent doesn't work they do care a great deal. And will the next time some totally undocumented option is needed to make some common task work. The tone of your average user comments shows how little you value other people's time. My point is that the average user shouldn't have to care about these prefs at all. At least not to work around bugs. The problem at hand is a bug, and as such it should be fixed. It's just that *in this particular case* dealing with these prefs helps to *work around* the bug until the fix is available (here: with SM 2.0.1, due next week). In many other cases there are no prefs, hidden or not, that help to work around a problem. Because this stuff might change is exactly why about:config should dump all available values. Or call it about:everything. People already know they may break something, and things may change, what's new? Prefs that do not appear in about:config unless manually set are prefs without obvious default, i.e. their default and type (!) solely depend on how they are used in the internal implementation. As I said, the implementation can change any day it is developed further. How should those be shown in about:config when they are not set by the user (in which case they already appear in the current situation)? How would the user know which type (string/boolean/integer) they are and what possible values would be? OTOH, if a pref would be important enough to be useful for more than a very small minority or seldom edge cases, the developers would only have to define a default for it and it would appear in about:config by default. If you find a pref that you think deserves that kind of attention you can file a bug and request that. It'll depend on your reasoning whether it'll be accepted or not (and the reviewers, of course). All I'm saying is that making a pref visible by default just because it works around a bug that should (and was!) be fixed another way is the wrong way to go. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Phillip Jones wrote: I all I know is what the developers are saying that there is a Migration assistant built into 2, Tools menu import choose import. That's at least not the recommended way; maybe it's even wrong. I know that menu option exists and that it is using at least part of the same code as the official migration (see below) but I never tested it and I don't know who else did. I always thought of it as a way to migrate additional data (e.g. external address books) after the fact. The official migration is triggered in two cases: a) automatically when there is no SM2 profile b) using the -migration command line option in combination with the -P SM 2 profile name command line option. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey (MozillaZine is currently very slow over here; if the cause is on their side using a cached Google version might be an idea.) HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.18 Stops Working in Win 7
Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: 2.0 is not an option for me, like many others, until the Form Manager is returned. And 1.1.x isn't really supported on Vista or Win7. Go figure. Perhaps you should at least give the 2.0 form management a try? Robert Kaiser There isn't none to speak of, without the aid of an extension. Despite the simple instructions on how to correct mistakes in the so called native manager, they don't work. Since you (the developers) don't have the desire, willingness, or people to put the Forms manger equivalent of 1.1.18 into SM2, buy off the fellow that created extension Forms History manager and have him integrate it in to SM2. You'll get a lot of people back, that are staying away because of it. I moved on to SM2 despite its failings because if I stayed behind there would be a point I could not move and stat over. and with all the sub-directories I have in one of my email accounts it would days before I could rebuild them. So I had little choice. You did fix a long standing problem for the mac version since SM 1.1.2, where hitting Command-S brings up the Save As... menu and hitting Command-S actually saves the item. At the time I was told in updating it broke a widget and you wouldn't have the time or personnel to fix it until work began on SM 2 that was years ago. I just hope that widget isn't broken with the next update. And it has to wait to SM 3 before its fixed again. Is there an extension that is better than SM2 password and/or Forms manager? I've already added Form History Control 1.1.3. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Keith Whaley wrote: John Boyle wrote: [...] All yelling has been deleted, so nothing is left to display! John, do you really have to yell all the time? That you're unnecessarily strident is one thing, but all those caps are annoying! keith whaley To Keith , Leonidas ,et al: I do apologize for the CAPS in my messages, but when I am shocked by attitudes of people who should know better, I will sound off! If you notice, though, I do not use cuss words! I have been trying to get the Developers and others to recognize that USERS are NOT Developers, in the main, yet that seems to be the exact reason they are shut off! I was totally shocked, again, when I found out through the newsgroup and support list, that the Developers were deliberately going to make it even harder to migrate information from one very stable version to an even newer update of their version 2.0. Why is it only one person really tried to give me step by step instructions on how to migrate from 1.1.18 to 2.0, for instance? I followed one persons advice, after reassurances it would not damage the older version, and installed 2.0 in its own location, then managed to migrate my bookmarks without any problems, but cannot get the addressbooks nor newsgroups to migrate worth beans, yet that individual who just killfiled me could not recognize he only half stepped in his help to me! Please forward this to him, letting him know I apologize for upsetting statements, but when you are an obviously unwanted low-life USER, like me, you have to expect frustration, especially if that low-life USER also has a Heart problems, and also cannot even breathe properly, all the time! I just have no time for those who have no respect for their fellow man, unless that fellow man is kissing their feet! Bet you thought I was going to say something else, ha ha. :-\ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Interviewed by CNN on 8/12/2009 13:30, John told the world: Water off a Ducks back. I am wondering if it is because I have SM installed in Documents and Settings? Perhaps I should try Program Files. The interesting thing is though when SM2 installs it does not look anything look 1.1.18. There is a box that says something like installing (or) updating GRE and then it is finished--that is a box comes up and says Finished. When the shortcut is clicked nothing happens. Let me get this straight. You have a highly non-standard setup -- you install applications in what is designated by the system vendor (Microsoft) as an user data area (I wonder if your iTunes setup is non-standard too?), disregarding all the defaults and recommended settings. Then something goes wrong -- and it's somehow Seamonkey's fault? An aside: the most irate complaints I have seen in this forum came from people who went out of their way to make things break. I remember a guy complaining about Seamonkey not working right after forcing the installation of 2.0 over 1.1.x. Another one cut pasted his user profile instead of using the import tool -- while the release notes are very clear about the profile structure being changed. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #336: the xy axis in the trackball is coordinated with the summer solstice * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
John Boyle wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: John Boyle wrote: [...] All yelling has been deleted, so nothing is left to display! John, do you really have to yell all the time? That you're unnecessarily strident is one thing, but all those caps are annoying! keith whaley To Keith , Leonidas ,et al: I do apologize for the CAPS in my messages... Okay, you're forgiven! g but when I am shocked by attitudes of people who should know better, I will sound off! If you notice, though, I do not use cuss words! Duly noted! Thanks. I have been trying to get the Developers and others to recognize that USERS are NOT Developers, in the main, yet that seems to be the exact reason they are shut off! I was totally shocked, again, when I found out through the newsgroup and support list, that the Developers were deliberately going to make it even harder to migrate information from one very stable version to an even newer update of their version 2.0. Why is it only one person really tried to give me step by step instructions on how to migrate from 1.1.18 to 2.0, for instance? No idea! I followed one persons advice, after reassurances it would not damage the older version, and installed 2.0 in its own location, then managed to migrate my bookmarks without any problems, but cannot get the addressbooks nor newsgroups to migrate worth beans, yet that individual who just killfiled me could not recognize he only half stepped in his help to me! Please forward this to him, letting him know I apologize for upsetting statements, but when you are an obviously unwanted low-life USER, like me, you have to expect frustration, especially if that low-life USER also has a Heart problems, and also cannot even breathe properly, all the time! I just have no time for those who have no respect for their fellow man, unless that fellow man is kissing their feet! Bet you thought I was going to say something else, ha ha. :-\ Oh no! You don't swear, so I expected 'feet'. g You're right. Some folks do not know how to comport themselves in public. Sad... However, try to reduce your anxiety and frustration...that might help your breathing and shortness of breath. I pretty much agree with you, tho' Do take care of your health, and try to not get so excited! We'll take them on and berate their ill-advised comments, as best we can. Later, keith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Phillip Jones wrote: John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 5:06 PM, John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: /snip/ So if no one can suggest an alternative, that means it was SM's fault? Sir, once again, your logic escapes me. To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!!:o John, i am afraid that logic, in the sense you want to use it, does not apply to computers. There is no clear link between SeaMonkey and iTunes, indeed, none at all. SeaMonkey simply could not be causing this problem, it is clearly something else. By your logic, if I pat my cat, and a vase falls from a shelf, patting the cat caused the vase to fall. Computers, and, for that matter, life are simply not that simplistic. Lee I think that you are wrong. If no downloads, files or any other computer operation is running except the install of SM2 and it clearly fails since SM does not work after the install and iTunes is corrupted, the only conclusion I can draw from that is that SM was the problem Could it be you have some cross-linked files in which case you need a Drive utility to fix. If your using a Mac AppleJack comes to mind if not using Leopard or Snow Leopard. not very likely I ran checkdisk yesterday and no problems ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can SM 2.0 and 1.1.18 co exist?
Leonidas Jones wrote: OBones wrote: SM2 will import SM1.1.18 profiles just fine. And after that you have tow independent installations, provided you installed them in a different folder. That's what I have here, it works just fine, no need for any third party tool Well, 2.0 will import profiles fine in most cases. There have been enough problems reported to be cautious, though, in any event, the old profile remains intact even if the transfer is not complete. SM 2.0, by default, installs in a different location then SM 1.18. So both profile locations are different. So far so good. Are the program part under the Program files directory also installed in different directories ? What about icons on the desktop - are they also differents ? If all the answers of those two questions are Yes i will give SM2 a try. I suppose that both program 1.1.18 and 2.0 may not run in the seme time... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Jens Hatlak: The ability to import the old download history format was removed with: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472924 Thanks. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Keith Whaley wrote: John Boyle wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: John Boyle wrote: [...] All yelling has been deleted, so nothing is left to display! John, do you really have to yell all the time? That you're unnecessarily strident is one thing, but all those caps are annoying! keith whaley To Keith , Leonidas ,et al: I do apologize for the CAPS in my messages... Okay, you're forgiven! g but when I am shocked by attitudes of people who should know better, I will sound off! If you notice, though, I do not use cuss words! Duly noted! Thanks. I have been trying to get the Developers and others to recognize that USERS are NOT Developers, in the main, yet that seems to be the exact reason they are shut off! I was totally shocked, again, when I found out through the newsgroup and support list, that the Developers were deliberately going to make it even harder to migrate information from one very stable version to an even newer update of their version 2.0. Why is it only one person really tried to give me step by step instructions on how to migrate from 1.1.18 to 2.0, for instance? No idea! I followed one persons advice, after reassurances it would not damage the older version, and installed 2.0 in its own location, then managed to migrate my bookmarks without any problems, but cannot get the addressbooks nor newsgroups to migrate worth beans, yet that individual who just killfiled me could not recognize he only half stepped in his help to me! Please forward this to him, letting him know I apologize for upsetting statements, but when you are an obviously unwanted low-life USER, like me, you have to expect frustration, especially if that low-life USER also has a Heart problems, and also cannot even breathe properly, all the time! I just have no time for those who have no respect for their fellow man, unless that fellow man is kissing their feet! Bet you thought I was going to say something else, ha ha. :-\ Oh no! You don't swear, so I expected 'feet'. g You're right. Some folks do not know how to comport themselves in public. Sad... However, try to reduce your anxiety and frustration...that might help your breathing and shortness of breath. I pretty much agree with you, tho' Do take care of your health, and try to not get so excited! We'll take them on and berate their ill-advised comments, as best we can. Later, keith To Keith, Robert Kaiser, Leonidas Jones, et al: First my system is Win XP with sp3, a fairly fast memory and all that other technical stuff. I have decided, in light of the FACT that a LOW-LIFE USER, like me, who needs and needed clearer instructions and understanding than I will ever get from the Developers and their supporters, have DELETED ver 2.0 from my system as it is NOT an upgrade, and the FACT that any upgrades to it will make it even harder to migrate what I do have to it, totally unnecessarily and totally uncalled for! I did keep the download of it, in case someone besides Keith and Peter Potamus and Philip Jones, decides to develop a little bit of true support of all the LOW-LIFES that are called USERS, and maybe even a little bit of a conscience and even show a slight ability to convey instructions to said LOW-LIFE USERS! To make it even clearer, I am NOT upgrading to WIN 7, if I ever do, until sometime in the summer when they truly have a workable OS! Thanks, Keith for your kind words and I wish others would try to HELP more like you and Philip Jones and Peter Potamus, instead of sloughing off us LOW-LIFE USERS as DIRT OR FUNGUS OR SOME SUCH! If, as is predicted by the Developers, it becomes evident that 1.1.18 cannot be migrated to version 2.xxx, because of their drive to make it as complicated as they can, I will then have to switch to IE, HEAVEN FORBID! You see, IE is already paid for as part of my OS, and why I keep banging my head and heart on the likes of some people on this newsgroup or the list, is beyond even my understanding! Except that , UNTIL NOW, Netscape/SeaMonkey has been the better product, despite the snide remarks of the developers to the contrary! I can guarantee you one thing, SeaMonkey is on the verge of LOSING all the LOW-LIFE'S USERS, and going back to being a Developers ONLY program, and that, in fact, has been stated on this newsgroup and the support list, by many, many people who have said ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Now, either the DEVELOPERS get their minds back on the ground and start using Common Sense or they are going to become very lonesome people, very quickly! :-( =developers, :-) =those who have Truely tried to help and listen to all the LOW-Life users! By the way, how did I do this time, Keith? 8-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/8/2009 7:50 AM, John wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:20 PM, John Boyle wrote: To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!! :o How about this John? Let's say you get home and park your car in the driveway, then go in the house. 10 minutes later, you look out the front window and see a neighbor kid walking past your house. Another 10 minutes later, you go outside and see that one of your tires has been slashed. Did the neighbor kid do it? apples and oranges Unfortunately, your response doesn't surprise me in the least. To Mark Hansen: Unfortunately, the JOHN that you just answered is NOT ME! John Boyle is always displayed in all my messages, or Old Sarge in my signature! So, I now know why so much confusion and irritation has been bandied about!! :-\ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can SM 2.0 and 1.1.18 co exist?
On 12/8/2009 3:55 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: OBones wrote: SM2 will import SM1.1.18 profiles just fine. And after that you have tow independent installations, provided you installed them in a different folder. That's what I have here, it works just fine, no need for any third party tool Well, 2.0 will import profiles fine in most cases. There have been enough problems reported to be cautious, though, in any event, the old profile remains intact even if the transfer is not complete. SM 2.0, by default, installs in a different location then SM 1.18. So both profile locations are different. So far so good. Are the program part under the Program files directory also installed in different directories ? The default program installation directory for SM 2.0 is different than the default program installation directory used by SM 1.1.X What about icons on the desktop - are they also differents ? I haven't installed SM 2.0 yet, but I think if there is a SM desktop icon (assuming Windows here), it will be converted to SM 2.0. However, you can just create a separate desktop icon if you wish. If all the answers of those two questions are Yes i will give SM2 a try. I suppose that both program 1.1.18 and 2.0 may not run in the seme time... Just keep in mind that if SM 1.1.X is running (even in quick launch mode) and you attempt to launch SM 2.0, it will open a new SM 1.1.X window unless you provide the -no-remote command line option. I believe the same will be true the other way around. Also, if you have an e-mail account where you download your mail from a server (like a POP server), then you may want to configure one of your accounts to leave the messages on the server. Otherwise, once the message is downloaded, it won't be available for the other account to see. Good luck. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Robert Kaiser wrote: John Boyle wrote: INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS No, the only thing we really know is that is sometimes doesn't import SeaMonkey 1.x profiles, but we haven't got any information whatsoever that it reproducibly destroyed anything at all (and I ignore your rudeness of writing all-caps messages). Robert Kaiser To Robert Kaiser: Sorry for the ALL Caps, but what I have said has been demonstrated by MANY complaints on both this newsgroups and the support lists! You just have NOT wanted to admit that FACT! :-( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:16 PM, John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 has destroyed anything? To Mark Hansen: As I have stated elsewhere, there is, NOW, an obvious problem in that there are two John's using this newsgroup, but it can easily be cleared up if people would remember the other John, does not leave a last name, but that I do! :-( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Inbox
now I am wondering where is the inbox located in SM2.0? I checked at mozillazine but, could not find the answer. Thanks, John McKenzie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox
John wrote: now I am wondering where is the inbox located in SM2.0? I checked at mozillazine but, could not find the answer. Thanks, John McKenzie C:\Documents and Settings\UsersName\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\profilename.default\Mail\mail account name Danny, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 12/8/2009 4:20 PM, John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:16 PM, John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 has destroyed anything? To Mark Hansen: As I have stated elsewhere, there is, NOW, an obvious problem in that there are two John's using this newsgroup, but it can easily be cleared up if people would remember the other John, does not leave a last name, but that I do! :-( By the way, I am keeping you both separate. But what has this to do with my post? You (John Boyle) said, as is still shown above, that installing SeaMonkey has been known to destroy all sorts of things. Again I'll ask: You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 had destroyed anything? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
On 12/8/2009 4:11 PM, John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/8/2009 7:50 AM, John wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:20 PM, John Boyle wrote: To Mark Hansen: If he had NO trouble before SM2 , but NOW has trouble since, IT IS VERY CLEAR LOGIC THAT SM2 IS THE PROBLEM!!! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK OTHERWISE, USING LOGIC, THAT IS!!! :o How about this John? Let's say you get home and park your car in the driveway, then go in the house. 10 minutes later, you look out the front window and see a neighbor kid walking past your house. Another 10 minutes later, you go outside and see that one of your tires has been slashed. Did the neighbor kid do it? apples and oranges Unfortunately, your response doesn't surprise me in the least. To Mark Hansen: Unfortunately, the JOHN that you just answered is NOT ME! John Boyle is always displayed in all my messages, or Old Sarge in my signature! So, I now know why so much confusion and irritation has been bandied about!! :-\ I was responding to a post by John, not John Boyle. I'm not sure why you think I'm not keeping these two separate. John (not John Boyle) said: apples and oranges, to which I replied. Why do you (John Boyle) think I was replying to you? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/8/2009 4:20 PM, John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:16 PM, John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 has destroyed anything? To Mark Hansen: As I have stated elsewhere, there is, NOW, an obvious problem in that there are two John's using this newsgroup, but it can easily be cleared up if people would remember the other John, does not leave a last name, but that I do! :-( By the way, I am keeping you both separate. But what has this to do with my post? You (John Boyle) said, as is still shown above, that installing SeaMonkey has been known to destroy all sorts of things. Again I'll ask: You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 had destroyed anything? Absoultely ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/8/2009 4:20 PM, John Boyle wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/7/2009 6:16 PM, John Boyle wrote: To NoOp: And how would you know this, using LINUX? Are you also a SeaMonkey developer? INSTALLING SEAMONKEY 2.0 HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DESTROY ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOWNLOADED OR HAVE BEEN DOWNLOADED THROUGH IT! After all, what are ALL the complaints that have surfaced been about, if not SM2:-( You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 has destroyed anything? To Mark Hansen: As I have stated elsewhere, there is, NOW, an obvious problem in that there are two John's using this newsgroup, but it can easily be cleared up if people would remember the other John, does not leave a last name, but that I do! :-( By the way, I am keeping you both separate. But what has this to do with my post? You (John Boyle) said, as is still shown above, that installing SeaMonkey has been known to destroy all sorts of things. Again I'll ask: You have evidence that installing SM 2.0 had destroyed anything? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey To Mark Hansen: YES, when I tried to migrate over my addressbooks, it took part of the old versions file and lost it somewhere in the program, not made clear where, and, that was my basic addressbook! I have had to reconstitute it from a print out that I luckily had made of it!Secondly, it did the same thing to my 'COLLECTED addresses and that I do not know how to get back! So, I reiterate it DOES destroy things, in this case data, and does it so well no one can find it again! Version 2.0 IS JUNK! :-( -- Old Sarge-John Boyle IN GOD WE TRUST! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Help transfering custom.dic tp persdict.dat
The custom.dic file is opened with notepad and keeps each entry on a separate line. I opened the persdict.dat file with notepad, and like Jens said each word is next to each other separated by a character not on the keyboard, at least i don't know how to make it with the keyboard. I tried copying and pasting the custom.dic text into the persdict.dat, but this did not work. At this point, I think my only option is to input by hand all the entries. But I am open to any suggetions. Thanks for everyones help, Rudra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox
Danny Kile wrote: John wrote: now I am wondering where is the inbox located in SM2.0? I checked at mozillazine but, could not find the answer. Thanks, John McKenzie C:\Documents and Settings\UsersName\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\profilename.default\Mail\mail account name Danny, thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:01:02 -0800, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:11:35 -0800, Rufus wrote: too...what's up with the interface guys working this project?.. Unlike Firefox we don't have any UX guys (paid or unpaid) working on this project. ...how about some common sense, then? The problem with common sense is that it is actually uncommon. Phil ...agreed. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. We all know that the current design isn't really good (though I am convinced it's better than the old design overall). What I'm missing in all that discussion is constructive ideas how to make it really good. The only suggested option I heard so far is killing the progress windows completely, and I think that would make more people unhappy than the current design. Robert Kaiser Do NOT kill the progress windows! All they need to do is to return the buttons to their former size - or at least half their former size, if they are trying to attempt to save some display space...that would be big enough to be able to accurately target them with a track pad on a laptop, IMO. They should spend some time using the software with input devices other than an mouse - track ball, trackpad, pen tablet, etc. ...but they should also look at it on a net-book or at a resolution simulating that screen size/display size BEFORE they implement my half size suggestion to see if that really will work for all users. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
dominique wrote: Philip Chee wrote, On 12/8/2009 10:31 AM: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. Almost all the SeaMonkey developers are actually against the mini buttons. The only person in favour of the mini buttons is, unfortunately, KaiRo, the project co-ordinator. Until now all we have is 100% negative feedback from our users (dismissed by KaiRo as I'm right, everyone else is wrong) and anecdotal evidence from the other developers. adding a (very...) small percentage of the many people that DO NOT express their opinion often and DO NOT jump up to any protest, I find: - Seamonkey 2.0 as a whole a pretty good and efficient product, for me, my personal and professional use. - The download manager with its small buttons not an annoyance at all. - The migration process working mostly (although I advise from time to time to redo your SM profile, in order to start from a clean state (specially after adding or removing many add-ons, extensions and doing changes to the defaults...). Hope this voicing of a SM user who is 99% satisfied helps re-balance the strong voicing we tend to see a bit too much here Keep cool all... Dominique 1) Do you primarily use a laptop? 2) If not, do you primarily use a mouse as a pointing device? Most of the problems I've had with 2.0 are interface problems and not functional problems - both on my laptop and on my desktop...but they are REALLY annoying problems. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee wrote: And then write up a cogent summary of why the mini buttons are wrong, wrong, wrong. That doesn't really help. What would help is a suggestion how to make it _really_ better. Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees that that is better than tiny round buttons stashed to the right. Just because you don't agree with that suggestion doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Second. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: This is a subject that has been gone over from time to time. In most groups sniping is recommended. Don't shoot me! ...I'll pass you some ammo! -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.18 Stops Working in Win 7
Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Perhaps you should at least give the 2.0 form management a try? There isn't none to speak of, without the aid of an extension. Wrong. There is form *management*, even if there isn't an explicit window for it. The functionality to remember text entered into forms and propose it for filling in is there (and even works better then in 1.x, I might say). Not having a window to view what has been remembered and potentially remove things from there doesn't mean that there isn't any management of form entries. Since you (the developers) don't have the desire, willingness, or people to put the Forms manger equivalent of 1.1.18 into SM2, buy off the fellow that created extension Forms History manager and have him integrate it in to SM2. Why don't you buy him off? Or do the integration work? You know, this is a volunteer project, not a do-it-for-money project. Or did you forget about that fact? Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is SeaMonket 2.0.2?
Bill Davidsen wrote: Sounds like I should just run the last 2.0.1pre and be happy. You should probably switch to the official 2.0.1 once it's there (or to the candidate we have right now), as it's basically the same and you will get security updates to it when we have some available. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Benoit Renard wrote: Everyone suggested to bring the regular buttons back, as everyone agrees that that is better than tiny round buttons stashed to the right. Wrong. EOM. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Rufus wrote: Do NOT kill the progress windows! I agree, even if I personally don't use them, I see why some people like them and really want to give those an experience that is functional, useful and well-designed at the same time. I just miss ideas on how to achieve that. All they need to do is to return the buttons to their former size At the current position it looks like crap, at the former position it looks even worse. Suggestions? Text/Icon? If Icon, how should it look? ??? People, please come up with real ideas, right now all I hear is let's replace crapwork with crapwork! Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
John Boyle wrote: To Robert Kaiser: Sorry for the ALL Caps, but what I have said has been demonstrated by MANY complaints on both this newsgroups and the support lists! You just have NOT wanted to admit that FACT! :-( Apology taken, but still I haven't seen reports of anything being provable destroyed, most people come to that wrong assumption just because they don't see their old data in 2.0, which is just because it wasn't migrated, but it still sits happily and completely undestroyed in the old 1.1.x profile. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
