Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread OBones

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

I've been asked to Keep my posts a given size.How can one do same when
there's no longer a post size indication.? jim


Just don't attach any files here.
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Re: Primary/Main e-mail address and additional e-mail address during composing e-mails in SM2...

2009-12-18 Thread Martin Freitag

Ant schrieb:

On 12/16/2009 9:32 PM PT, Ant typed:


I'm sorry, I got you wrong, thought you were talking about yor own
email-Accounts and not the recipent of an email.
That's a bug it seems, I saw similar posts today on th german support
group, looks like noone filed a bug on bugzillA yet there...
regards


I think someone did in the past?


I guess not. Added https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535736
... :)



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Re: Primary/Main e-mail address and additional e-mail address during composing e-mails in SM2...

2009-12-18 Thread Ant

On 12/18/2009 12:59 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed:


I'm sorry, I got you wrong, thought you were talking about yor own
email-Accounts and not the recipent of an email.
That's a bug it seems, I saw similar posts today on th german support
group, looks like noone filed a bug on bugzillA yet there...
regards


I think someone did in the past?


I guess not. Added https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535736
... :)



nice :-)


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Re: Getting passwords from 1.1.18 to 2.0?

2009-12-18 Thread Martin Freitag

Devil's Advocate schrieb:

Ok, I'm finally trying to setup and use SM 2.0. It seems decent but it
didn't import my passwords from 1.1.18.

How can I do that?



It should have asked you to migrate your profile on the first start.
You can start migration manually, too: 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: add-on signing error, Adblock Plus from AMO [solved]

2009-12-18 Thread Wladimir Palant
On Dec 17, 10:35 pm, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote:
 I've got nss-3.12.3-r1, which isn't the latest from Mozilla but which
 is well after StartCom certs were added.

StartCom certs were added long ago but they were only allowed for
signing code relatively recently. The version of NSS isn't important
here, it's the version of the certificate store (ckbi library) that is
relevant. Mozilla used NSS_3_12_2_WITH_CKBI_1_75_RTM in Firefox
3.0.12, that's the first version to support StartCom's code signing.
From the look of it, Gentoo simply gets the source code from the FTP
server - version 3.12.3 there comes with ckbi 1.73, only version
3.12.3.1 has ckbi 1.75.
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Re: add-on signing error, Adblock Plus from AMO [solved]

2009-12-18 Thread Wladimir Palant
On Dec 18, 11:00 am, Wladimir Palant trev@adblockplus.org wrote:
 From the look of it, Gentoo simply gets the source code from the FTP
 server - version 3.12.3 there comes with ckbi 1.73, only version
 3.12.3.1 has ckbi 1.75.

Looking further into this, I see why I've seen only two reports on
this issue so far. Official builds for both Firefox and SeaMonkey come
with their own NSS library, those always work correctly. Only vendor-
supplied builds rely on an independent NSS package which could be
outdated (but not always is, at least some distributions already use
NSS 3.12.4).
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Re: error 200 when update to 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread Daniel

bruno.boirel wrote:

I have SM 2.0.0
SM 2.0.1 is ready to download since December 15, 2009
search for updates today gives error 200
anyone have the same problem ?


When I selected Help  - check for updates, I got a screen that 
indicated a search was going on, then I was told an update was available 
and asked if I wanted to install it.


So WFM.

Daniel
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Re: How do I reduce the header width??

2009-12-18 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

I'm using the three pane view in (clean install) SM 2.0 on (clean
install) Windows 7.

When I view a message either in my Mail account and/or my various
newsgroups on various servers, the Header portion is extra wide, showing
not only the normal Subject, From, Date and newsgroups lines, I'm also
seeing Message-ID, Path, NNPT-posting-date and User Agent lines of the
message.

I have a scroll bar which allows me to see the rest of the Header info.

How do I reduce the width(depth) of the header section, keeping the
scroll bar, so that I will be able to see more of the message.

TIA

Daniel


Thanks to all respondents..What a goose I feel!!

In the moz.gen group, I was replying to a message asking how the OP 
could connect to melbpc.computers, and went to look at his full header 
and found out I was already set to full headers, switching back to 
normal returned the header to its normal four lines (How do I type in 
one of those embarrassed smiley faces??).


Still, I'm sure at sometime in the past, someone here-abouts gave a 
user.js (or something) script that would set the header to some width 
and include an effective scroll bar.


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2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread Test
I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type 
an email address, the program locks up.


Does any one else have this problem?  How do I fix this?

Len
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Re: Chatzilla charset

2009-12-18 Thread Martin Freitag

Ray_Net schrieb:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Ray_Net schrieb:


Nobody can help me ?
Is it enough that i post this(as it is now) to bugzilla ?



Looks like you have run an acceptable amount of tests ;-)
regards


May be ... Anyway ... due to the poor of interest of this bug, i believe
that it will never corrected - not enough votes :-)



Feel free to post the link to the bug.
btw: I remember someone saying that the voting is being widely ignored 
(unsure if the chatzilla people handle it differently)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.1 and Lightning Update fialed

2009-12-18 Thread Martin Freitag

Stefan Sitter schrieb:

Rex wrote:

Mine updated to 2.01 fine, but Lightning still doesn't work. We'll
probably have to wait for them to update.


If you are using an older nightly test build: Try the test build 6 of
the Lightning 1.0 Beta 1 release. This version should support SeaMonkey
2.0.1:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/sunbird/nightly/1.0b1-candidates/build6/unsigned/win32/lightning-all.xpi


Lightning in a sunbird folder beside a lightning folder, you people are 
trying to hide it from us, eh? ;-)

What's different in that release? (it's twice as large)
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Re: How to import Firefox personal bar bookmarks to SM

2009-12-18 Thread Martin Freitag

Terje J. Hanssen schrieb:

How to import booksmarks, especially the personal bar bookmarks from
Firefox to SM?


Export as HTML in Firefox Bookmark Manager, import the html in Seamonkey 
Bookmark Manager.

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Re: error 200 when update to 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread bruno.boirel
On 18 déc, 13:14, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote:
 bruno.boirel wrote:
  I have SM 2.0.0
  SM 2.0.1 is ready to download since December 15, 2009
  search for updates today gives error 200
  anyone have the same problem ?

 When I selected Help  - check for updates, I got a screen that
 indicated a search was going on, then I was told an update was available
 and asked if I wanted to install it.

 So WFM.

 Daniel

thanks, a precision
about: gives Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:
1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091206 SeaMonkey/2.0.1
my version is a french one
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.1 and Lightning Update fialed

2009-12-18 Thread Stefan Sitter

Martin Freitag wrote:

What's different in that release? (it's twice as large)


The nightly build packages only English (US) localization, the release 
builds packages all 38 localizations that were finished for the Beta.


Stefan
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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread Martin Freitag

Test schrieb:

I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
an email address, the program locks up.

Does any one else have this problem? How do I fix this?


pretty many I guess. Probably the Outlook issue.
Try to rename the *.wab file under WindowsUserdirectory\Application 
Data\Microsoft\Adress Book\username.wab

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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread jim
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:18:13 +1100, u...@domain.invalid in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

I've been asked to Keep my posts a given size.How can one do same when 
there's no longer a post size indication.?  jim


Insofar as text of post is concerned, consider each 13 lines to be  1kb.
(as a rule of thumb)
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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
u...@domain.invalid:

I've been asked to Keep my posts a given size.How can one do same when 
there's no longer a post size indication.?

For most of my newsgroups i use 'lines', for very of them 'size'. You
can switch between the two with the Pref

- user.js -
user_pref(news.show_size_in_lines, true );
---

Hartmut
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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread Test
I found the file.  Its called administrator.wab.  When you say username, 
is that the name I use to log on to the computer?


Martin Freitag wrote:

Test schrieb:

I sadly let sea monkey automatically update. Now when I start to type
an email address, the program locks up.

Does any one else have this problem? How do I fix this?


pretty many I guess. Probably the Outlook issue.
Try to rename the *.wab file under WindowsUserdirectory\Application
Data\Microsoft\Adress Book\username.wab
regards

Martin


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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

u...@domain.invalid:


I've been asked to Keep my posts a given size.How can one do same when
there's no longer a post size indication.?


For most of my newsgroups i use 'lines', for very of them 'size'. You
can switch between the two with the Pref

- user.js -
user_pref(news.show_size_in_lines, true );
---

Hartmut
You  also  look at the far right of the bar that shows Subject sender 
etc. at the little menu icon click on it and put a check mark next to lines.


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Re: default browser problem

2009-12-18 Thread jim
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:21:17 -0700, Jim no_...@anonymouse.org in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

jim wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:59:51 -0700, Jimno_...@anonymouse.org  in
 mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

 Jim wrote:
 Hi all --

 At work we use Lotus Notes for e-mail. I also have Seamonkey 2.0. Today,
 I uninstalled the old browser, Seamonkey 1.18. Now, when I click on a link
 in an email in Lotus Notes, nothing happens (used to open a SM 1.18
 window.) I opened Seamonkey 2.0, and went to
 edit--preferences--browser and clicked on Set Default Browser, but
 nothing happens. Here, at home, that button is grayed out, and it says
 Seamonkey is already your default browser. But that doesn't happen at
 work. Out of curiosity, would I have to log in under my administrator
 account to do that?

 What do I do? (Have XP, SP3 at work).

 Possibility -- Check to see if your Lotus Notes has a hardwired path set
 for Seamonkey -- so long as 1.1.18 was there it would follow that path and
 bump the program.  SM 2.0 uses a different directory than SM 1.x.
 (I had that happen with a program called Mailwasher.)

 jim

I give up.  Today, I found out IE7 exhibits the same behavior.  Bet the 
browsers can't change a registry key, or the key is non-existent.  Sent 
a message to our bright IT folks to figure it out.  (Actually, our IT 
people are pretty good -- they're so darned busy, that we only contact 
them if we can't figure it out.)  BTW, Lotus Notes doesn't have a 
hardwired path for SeaMonkey.  It used to.  The current version gives 
you a choice of using the default browser, or the browser contained in 
Lotus Notes.  I switched to the Lotus Notes browser, until we figure 
this out.

Don't give up. :-)

From what you have said, this is what I would do at this point:

Go in and see of the old directory structure is still intact:  SB:
C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey -- drive possibility here
If so, use it, if not, make it, and then,
Put any old standalone .exe into *that* Seamonkey directory and rename it
as Seamonkey.exe, then,
See if it gets called from seamonkey...

That would do one thing if it is called -- show you that it is the path
involved.  If so, you can do one of two things -  reinstall sm 2.x to
*that* directory, OR pass that golden info to the IT dept. and change the
SM icon(s) target(s) until they get it fixed.  [I have two icons, one
for browser and one for mail]

(Actually, there are three possibilities if it is the path)

jim



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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Phillip Jones:

You  also  look at the far right of the bar that shows Subject sender 
etc. at the little menu icon click on it and put a check mark next to lines.

Mhm? I can have a column to the right for the size of a posting. The
title of this column can either be lines or size, depending on the Pref.
In the second case i get the size in KB.

For text groups i prefer the number of lines.

Hartmut
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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread Tobias Fischer
On 18.12.2009 14:01, Martin Freitag wrote:
 Test schrieb:
 I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
 an email address, the program locks up.

 Does any one else have this problem? How do I fix this?
 
 pretty many I guess. Probably the Outlook issue.
 Try to rename the *.wab file under WindowsUserdirectory\Application 
 Data\Microsoft\Adress Book\username.wab
 regards

Well, seems so. This is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535528

If you don't need the OE Contacts Addressbook, deleting this in
SeaMonkey is a propper workaround to avoid the App-Hang.


Tobias
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Custom email notifications?

2009-12-18 Thread MCBastos
A customer came to me with a request: she wanted to be notified (by 
sound) whenever a new email from a particular sender arrived -- she 
doesn't like checking her e-mail too often, but she needs to know as 
soon as a message from a major client arrives.


I thought about using a message filter for it, but neither Seamonkey nor 
Thunderbird offer an action for it.


Does anybody know of an extension that could do that? (She uses a Gmail 
account -- perhaps a Greasemonkey script on her webmail window would be 
overkill?)


Should I open a bug in Bugzilla requesting this enhancement for future 
versions?


More generally, instead of a bug requesting custom notifications, should 
it be a request for running an external program? There's a very old bug, 
158019, requesting the ability to run an AppleScript on a Mac... this 
kind of feature would add enough flexibility to solve this problem and 
perhaps a number of others, but I'm not sure about the security 
implications.


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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

I can have a column to the right for the size of a posting. The title
of this column can either be lines or size, depending on the Pref. In
the second case i get the size in KB.

For text groups i prefer the number of lines.

Perhaps screenshots can show what i mean. I know good enough about my
lack of sufficient knowledge of English.

This posting has 12 lines
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/li091218.png (27 KB)

and this one is a posting with a size of 218KB.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/si091218.jpg (140 KB)

The last one is from a newsgroup in which self-made pictures are shown.
I have chosen one from today.

You are free to join and post own pictures, but the language for this
special newsgroup is German. :-P

Hartmut
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Re: default browser problem

2009-12-18 Thread jim
XP, SP2
Seamonkey 2.0.1
IE 8



On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:58:48 -0500, jim j...@earthlink.com in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:21:17 -0700, Jim no_...@anonymouse.org in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

jim wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:59:51 -0700, Jimno_...@anonymouse.org  in
 mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

 Jim wrote:
 Hi all --

 At work we use Lotus Notes for e-mail. I also have Seamonkey 2.0. Today,
 I uninstalled the old browser, Seamonkey 1.18. Now, when I click on a link
 in an email in Lotus Notes, nothing happens (used to open a SM 1.18
 window.) I opened Seamonkey 2.0, and went to
 edit--preferences--browser and clicked on Set Default Browser, but
 nothing happens. Here, at home, that button is grayed out, and it says
 Seamonkey is already your default browser. But that doesn't happen at
 work. Out of curiosity, would I have to log in under my administrator
 account to do that?

 What do I do? (Have XP, SP3 at work).

 Possibility -- Check to see if your Lotus Notes has a hardwired path set
 for Seamonkey -- so long as 1.1.18 was there it would follow that path and
 bump the program.  SM 2.0 uses a different directory than SM 1.x.
 (I had that happen with a program called Mailwasher.)

 jim

I give up.  Today, I found out IE7 exhibits the same behavior.  Bet the 
browsers can't change a registry key, or the key is non-existent.  Sent 
a message to our bright IT folks to figure it out.  (Actually, our IT 
people are pretty good -- they're so darned busy, that we only contact 
them if we can't figure it out.)  BTW, Lotus Notes doesn't have a 
hardwired path for SeaMonkey.  It used to.  The current version gives 
you a choice of using the default browser, or the browser contained in 
Lotus Notes.  I switched to the Lotus Notes browser, until we figure 
this out.

Don't give up. :-)

From what you have said, this is what I would do at this point:

Go in and see of the old directory structure is still intact:  SB:
C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey -- drive possibility here
If so, use it, if not, make it, and then,
Put any old standalone .exe into *that* Seamonkey directory and rename it
as Seamonkey.exe, then,

See if it gets called from seamonkey...
***--^
Error, error, mea culpa -- I meant see if it gets called from Lotus
Notes.

Clarification:  by standalone.exe  i mean one that does not require
other files to execute.


That would do one thing if it is called -- show you that it is the path
involved.  If so, you can do one of two things -  reinstall sm 2.x to
*that* directory, OR pass that golden info to the IT dept. and change the
SM icon(s) target(s) until they get it fixed.  [I have two icons, one
for browser and one for mail]

(Actually, there are three possibilities if it is the path)

But the third fix possibility requires uninstallation/reinstallation of
some older software.

I have not used Lotus Notes, but if it is like the old Lotus 123 R5, the
.ini files would be a likely place to look for paths..

Understand, it may not be showing you a path, but it may have one in an
.ini or compiled into a DLL.


jim



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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/18/2009 6:01 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Phillip Jones:
 
You  also  look at the far right of the bar that shows Subject sender 
etc. at the little menu icon click on it and put a check mark next to lines.
 
 Mhm? I can have a column to the right for the size of a posting. The
 title of this column can either be lines or size, depending on the Pref.
 In the second case i get the size in KB.
 
 For text groups i prefer the number of lines.
 
 Hartmut

It seemed the OP wanted to know the size of his post as he's
composing it - otherwise, he would have no control over it,
right? Isn't looking at the size of the post after it's been
posted going to be too late?

Perhaps I misunderstood what the OP wanted. After all, not
much was said.
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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Mark Hansen:

It seemed the OP wanted to know the size of his post as he's
composing it - otherwise, he would have no control over it,
right? Isn't looking at the size of the post after it's been
posted going to be too late?

He could use Ctrl+S while writing and then look into Drafts. And then it
does matter if he wants to see the number of lines or the size in KB.

Perhaps I misunderstood what the OP wanted.

Misunderstanding is very easy. Especially for me in English groups.

Hartmut
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 update

2009-12-18 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ray_Net wrote:

In SM 1.1.xx the second method was prefered because the first method did
not clean all registry entries. After a while, there are in the registry
traces about 1.1.9 , 1.1.10, 1.1.11, 1.1.12, etc 

Is this little bug corrected ? Sure ?


As far as I know, it is. We completely rewrote the whole installer and 
OS handling code. And the internal update function doesn't even use the 
installer. ;-)


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0, support for html attributes 'ALT' and 'TITLE'

2009-12-18 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 11 décembre 2009, »Q« a écrit :


Not in 2.0, but in a future version there should be the option to have
them display as long as the cursor is stationary over the element.
It's already in the Firefox 3.6 betas.

There's a 'No Tooltip Timeout' extension for current versions of Fx,
but I don't know if it can work with SeaMonkey.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/11233


Thanks! I got it to work with SM. Here's how:
1) force its installation
- in about:config, create a new string general.useragent.extra.firefox and
  set it to Firefox/3.5
- in about:config set extensions.checkCompatibility to false
- install from the above link

2) go to profile_folder/extensions/notooltiptime...@extensions.geckozone.org/
- edit chrome.manifest and change the first line to:

overlay chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul
chrome://notooltiptimeout/content/notooltiptimeoutOverlay.xul

- edit install.rdf and add this, just past one of the other
  targetApplication section: (I think this step is not required to make
  it work but that suppresses the warning about incompatibility in Add-on
  Manager, and one should then be able to revert
  extensions.checkCompatibility to true)

!-- SeaMonkey --
em:targetApplication
Description
em:id{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}/em:id
em:minVersion2.0/em:minVersion
em:maxVersion2.*/em:maxVersion
/Description
/em:targetApplication

3) restart SM and enjoy!

I hope this helps someone!

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Re: SM2.0 vs 1.1.18

2009-12-18 Thread Robert Kaiser

Mort wrote:

The download for SM 2.0.1 is not verifiable, has no certified signature,
and per my current SM 2, cannot be trusted.


That's your operating system telling that, not your SeaMonkey.


What do I do about downloading the new version? Is there is a safe
download URL?


Yes, use the Help  Check For Updates... function.

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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread Test

I have opted to go back to 2.0.  It did not have this problem.

Thanks.

Tobias Fischer wrote:

On 18.12.2009 14:01, Martin Freitag wrote:

Test schrieb:

I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
an email address, the program locks up.

Does any one else have this problem? How do I fix this?


pretty many I guess. Probably the Outlook issue.
Try to rename the *.wab file underWindowsUserdirectory\Application
Data\Microsoft\Adress Book\username.wab
regards


Well, seems so. This is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535528

If you don't need the OE Contacts Addressbook, deleting this in
SeaMonkey is a propper workaround to avoid the App-Hang.


Tobias


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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread kathp
On Dec 18, 5:45 am, Test wrote:
 I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
 an email address, the program locks up.

 Does any one else have this problem?  How do I fix this?

 Len

We have the same problem.  I believe ours is caused by the interaction
with our LDAP servers.  I had to uninstall version 2.01 and reinstall
the old 2.0 version.  It has happened with several people on our
site.  Putting SeaMonkey back to level 2.0 has solved the problem each
time.  We do not want to shut off the LDAP address books.  I also
turned off automatic updates so I don't have to go back and do it
again.
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread NFN Smith

Philip Chee wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:28:27 -0700, NFN Smith wrote:


- Duplicate Tab: 1.0.2 supports Seamonkey 2.0a2, but not 2.0.1


Looks like it just needs to have the maxVersion that it advertises to be
incremented.


Not surprising.



- Mnenhy: 0.7.6 is the most recent.  Apparently, it doesn't support 
Thunderbird 3, either.


Mynromyr is hard at work on SM2/TB3 compatibility. He says he is about
2/3 of the way through.


I suspected that to be the case.  I was going to write him and ask where 
he's going with that one, and this saves me the effort.  I interacted 
with him before on other things with that one, and he noted that he 
thought my feature suggestions were good, the major limitation was time 
on his part.  Thus, it means that I don't have to bug him with an extra 
email.  Knowing that that's in-progress, I'm content to wait for that one.




- Customize Google: it looks like development on this one has stopped. 
Optimize Google appears to aspire to continue, but is currently listed 
as experimental.


I don't know anything about these.

- Image Zoom: I have 0.3.1 installed on a test copy of Seamonkey 2.0.1. 
  It installed OK, but doesn't seem to work (e.g., no presence in 
context menus).


I have a working port of 0.4 for SeaMonkey. Just doing some QA before
announcing it.


I noticed that in other discussion.  I'll look forward to seeing the 
result.  Thanks for your work on that one.  It's a nice feature to have.



The other extension I follow is IETab, although I think it's not 
essential for me.  I know that the last time I did an 
uninstall/reinstall of Seamonkey for a version upgrade, I didn't bother 
to reinstall that one, and I haven't really missed it.


I have seen the discussion relating to Coral IETab, and I've played with 
that briefly on a test configuration.  Objectively, I would love to see 
a way to get the necessary plugin support enabled, as I do think that 
helps with long-term use of Seamonkey (where it's possible to get to IE 
on the occasions that's needed).  Given that SeaMonkey has a little more 
of an enterprise focus that TB/FF, to some measure, I think that 
SeaMonkey users may be more likely to bump into sites that require IE, 
and having the ability to call IE from inside SeaMonkey would allow for 
use SeaMonkey when they want, without having to do a separate launch of 
IE for the sites that require IE.


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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread Tobias Fischer
On 18.12.2009 17:11, kathp wrote:
 On Dec 18, 5:45 am, Test wrote:
 I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
 an email address, the program locks up.

 Does any one else have this problem?  How do I fix this?

 Len
 
 We have the same problem.  I believe ours is caused by the interaction
 with our LDAP servers.  I had to uninstall version 2.01 and reinstall
 the old 2.0 version.  It has happened with several people on our
 site.  Putting SeaMonkey back to level 2.0 has solved the problem each
 time.  We do not want to shut off the LDAP address books.  I also
 turned off automatic updates so I don't have to go back and do it
 again.

Jepp, the suspected checkin was on 2009-10-19 in comm-1.9.1, see:
http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/67c02f46eab4

But as you can see, the Bug is well-known now, and hopefully fixed in time:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535528


Tobias
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SM 2.01 high CPU load

2009-12-18 Thread Zanqeutil

I love Seamonkey 2.0 and now 2.01 !

The migration went without any problems, SM2 ipmorted everything from
SM 1.1.18.

Question.

This site completely feezes my PC in SM2.

http://www.daralhayat.com/morenews/english/

SM2 CPU load is 100 %. I have to kill SM2 in the taskmanager and
that takes minutes because I can hardly move my mouse.

SM 1.1.18, same site: CPU load is 88 - 93 %, browsing the site is 
possible but sluggish.


The same site loads with no problems with IE 6.1 and Opera 10.10.

Has it to do with Java, site errors or my system ?

System: Win 2K Pro (SP4) AMD 2500, 1 Gig memory,
Java 1.6.0-11, Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32

Regards,

Zanqeutil
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Re: add-on signing error, Adblock Plus from AMO [solved]

2009-12-18 Thread »Q«
In
news:7306497d-deb2-436f-8219-966bb9690...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com,
Wladimir Palant trev@adblockplus.org wrote:

 On Dec 18, 11:00 am, Wladimir Palant trev@adblockplus.org wrote:
  From the look of it, Gentoo simply gets the source code from the FTP
  server - version 3.12.3 there comes with ckbi 1.73, only version
  3.12.3.1 has ckbi 1.75.  
 
 Looking further into this, I see why I've seen only two reports on
 this issue so far. Official builds for both Firefox and SeaMonkey come
 with their own NSS library, those always work correctly. Only vendor-
 supplied builds rely on an independent NSS package which could be
 outdated (but not always is, at least some distributions already use
 NSS 3.12.4).

Gentoo also has 3.12.4 and 3.12.5, but neither of them are marked
stable yet.  I went ahead and compiled 3.12.4, and everything seems to
be as it should be -- but I don't know if that's only due to me
selecting the checkbox earlier.

You're right about Gentoo getting the NSS source from the FTP server
(it's then of course mirrored on Gentoo servers).  Since Gentoo is
source-based distro, the preference is for system libraries, so the
same library doesn't have to be compiled over and over for each app.
(NSS is a quick compile, but some others aren't.)  

Do any of you know if Mozilla supplies source patches to NSS tarballs
when the certificate store is updated, or does it just wait for the
next NSS version number?  If there are patches provided, I'll point the
Gentoo maintainer to them.

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Re: default browser problem

2009-12-18 Thread Jim

jim wrote:

XP, SP2
Seamonkey 2.0.1
IE 8



On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:58:48 -0500, jimj...@earthlink.com  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:21:17 -0700, Jimno_...@anonymouse.org  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:



snipped out older messages


Don't give up. :-)

From what you have said, this is what I would do at this point:

Go in and see of the old directory structure is still intact:  SB:
C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey --drive possibility here
If so, use it, if not, make it, and then,
Put any old standalone .exe into *that* Seamonkey directory and rename it
as Seamonkey.exe, then,



See if it gets called from seamonkey...

***--^
Error, error, mea culpa -- I meant see if it gets called from Lotus
Notes.

Clarification:  by standalone.exe  i mean one that does not require
other files to execute.



That would do one thing if it is called -- show you that it is the path
involved.  If so, you can do one of two things -  reinstall sm 2.x to
*that* directory, OR pass that golden info to the IT dept. and change the
SM icon(s) target(s) until they get it fixed.  [I have two icons, one
for browser and one for mail]

(Actually, there are three possibilities if it is the path)


But the third fix possibility requires uninstallation/reinstallation of
some older software.

I have not used Lotus Notes, but if it is like the old Lotus 123 R5, the
.ini files would be a likely place to look for paths..

Understand, it may not be showing you a path, but it may have one in an
.ini or compiled into a DLL.



jim




Thanks for your reply.  However, I'm now on Christmas vacation until 
next year :)


So I'll look at it some more, if its not fixed by then.

Jim

(think we got too many Jims here :)
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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread SCShot
On Dec 16, 10:59 am, Mark Hansen m...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote:
 On 12/16/2009 10:20 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:



  SCShot wrote:
  I keep getting the following message when trying to doing to do
  anything:

  Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device.

  Any clue what is wanted?  I have tried every password I can think of
  but none work.

  Quoting from the Release Notes:
  MailNews account password prompts are no longer serial at startup (Bug
  338549)
  Workaround: If a Master Password is set and you saved your login
  credentials, only one prompt will appear at startup. You can disable
  this new behavior by setting signon.startup.prompt to false in
  about:config.

  You should be able to cancel the prompt(s) to get past them. Then you
  can follow the advice above.

  Also the email can not find my current email.  How do I re-path it to
  the correct folder?

  From a MailNews window, choose Edit/Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,
  choose Server Settings below your server and change the path in the last
  text box.

 Are you sure that is what the OP wants? It sounds to me like a migration
 of the mail content from his previous version is in order.

Thanks for the info!  I'm not a power user but know enough to follow
directions.  Sound like it is code setting that need to be edited.
signon.startup.prompt to false in
 about:config.  Is there a file in the SeaMonkey directory that I need to 
 edit?  Also OP = ?  Operating System?

The email it is picking up is from 2008 and I do not know how the
current email is in a different space, other than it might be from I
stated using SM.
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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/18/2009 11:19 AM, SCShot wrote:
 On Dec 16, 10:59 am, Mark Hansen m...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote:
 On 12/16/2009 10:20 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:



  SCShot wrote:

[ snip ]


  Also the email can not find my current email.  How do I re-path it to
  the correct folder?

  From a MailNews window, choose Edit/Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,
  choose Server Settings below your server and change the path in the last
  text box.

 Are you sure that is what the OP wants? It sounds to me like a migration
 of the mail content from his previous version is in order.
 
 Thanks for the info!  I'm not a power user but know enough to follow
 directions.  Sound like it is code setting that need to be edited.
 signon.startup.prompt to false in
 about:config.  Is there a file in the SeaMonkey directory that I need to 
 edit?  Also OP = ?  Operating System?

OP means Original Post/Poster. It refers to you (or your original post).

 
 The email it is picking up is from 2008 and I do not know how the
 current email is in a different space, other than it might be from I
 stated using SM.

Assuming you use a standard POP e-mail service, where the e-mail
messages are downloaded to your computer (rather than maintained on
the server, as in IMAP), your e-mail messages are maintained in your
SeaMonkey Profile. The Profile is the location on your computer where
SeaMonkey maintains all the user data (e-mail, settings, passwords, etc.)

You mentioned that you are using SeaMonkey 2.0 now, but not what you
were using before. Were you using an earlier version of SeaMonkey or
some other tool?

Depending on that, SeaMonkey 2.0 should have offered to migrate your
previous settings into a new SeaMonkey 2.X profile, leaving your
original profile untouched.

Some more information from you will be needed before anyone will be
able to provide help suited for your circumstances.

Best Regards,

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0, support for html attributes 'ALT' and 'TITLE'

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard

Lucas Levrel wrote:

1) force its installation
- in about:config, create a new string general.useragent.extra.firefox and
  set it to Firefox/3.5
- in about:config set extensions.checkCompatibility to false
- install from the above link


This isn't how you should go about things. It's a bit pointless when you 
tell the reader in step two how to make the extension compatible. You 
don't even tell the reader to undo the changes done in step 1 afterwards.


The better way is to download the .xpi file (right-click  save target 
as...), open it with your favourite archive program (eg WinZip), and 
then edit the files in it as mentioned in step 2. Then open the .xpi 
file with SeaMonkey, and install it.

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard

hawker wrote:

Anyone out there a Seamonkey user who was not a Netscape users?


Yup! That's me.

A message board I visited many years back had Linux fan on it who 
regularly praised the suite, then known as Mozilla. I tried it, and 
never looked back.

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard

Phillip Jones wrote:
I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x  and sad that it 
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to 
do a port of it in the new code.


This is correct.


(Despite all the protestations otherwise by the developers, they decided
because they didn't use it there wasn't a need for it so they dumped it.)


But this is wrong. You gave the correct explanation at first, so why do 
you follow it up with lies?


Patches welcome.
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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread SCShot
On Dec 18, 11:35 am, Mark Hansen m...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote:
 On 12/18/2009 11:19 AM, SCShot wrote:

  On Dec 16, 10:59 am, Mark Hansen m...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote:
  On 12/16/2009 10:20 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:

   SCShot wrote:

 [ snip ]



   Also the email can not find my current email.  How do I re-path it to
   the correct folder?

   From a MailNews window, choose Edit/Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,
   choose Server Settings below your server and change the path in the last
   text box.

  Are you sure that is what the OP wants? It sounds to me like a migration
  of the mail content from his previous version is in order.

  Thanks for the info!  I'm not a power user but know enough to follow
  directions.  Sound like it is code setting that need to be edited.
  signon.startup.prompt to false in
  about:config.  Is there a file in the SeaMonkey directory that I need to 
  edit?  Also OP = ?  Operating System?

 OP means Original Post/Poster. It refers to you (or your original post).



  The email it is picking up is from 2008 and I do not know how the
  current email is in a different space, other than it might be from I
  stated using SM.

 Assuming you use a standard POP e-mail service, where the e-mail
 messages are downloaded to your computer (rather than maintained on
 the server, as in IMAP), your e-mail messages are maintained in your
 SeaMonkey Profile. The Profile is the location on your computer where
 SeaMonkey maintains all the user data (e-mail, settings, passwords, etc.)

 You mentioned that you are using SeaMonkey 2.0 now, but not what you
 were using before. Were you using an earlier version of SeaMonkey or
 some other tool?

 Depending on that, SeaMonkey 2.0 should have offered to migrate your
 previous settings into a new SeaMonkey 2.X profile, leaving your
 original profile untouched.

 Some more information from you will be needed before anyone will be
 able to provide help suited for your circumstances.

 Best Regards,

I'm still using SM1.18.1 because of the Master Password issue.  It
keeps popping always when I start.  I uninstalled SM 2.0 because I
could get no where.  With SM 2.0.1 I could go a bit further but still
am plagued by the password issue, so I uninstalled it also.  I want to
use the newer version but need to resolve the password issue.  I'm
using an older Dell PC (2006) with Windows XPpro.

I thing repathing the email may be tricky, I just discover that I have
email in different places, this is the 2008 stuff:
C:\Documents and Settings\Steven\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
\Profiles\210thbpd.default\Mail\mail.comcast.net

And my current stuff is here:
C:\Documents and Settings\Steven\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles
\default\t5qszkbu.slt\Mail\mail.comcast.net
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread intrudere
On 16 dic, 17:39, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
 buhonero escribió:
  Así pues, sólo tiene que preguntarse si la mayoría de nosotros, las 
  personas son sólo para Firefox
  Netscape celebrar complementos que no se siente cómodo con el Firefox / 
  Thunderbird
  Interfaz por cualquier razón?

  ¿Hay alguien allí un usuario de Firefox que no era un usuarios de Netscape?
  En cuanto a mí se inició el 1.x Netscape 4.6x aunque luego saltar a Netscape
  7.x (6.x nunca funcionó bien para mí), a Mozilla Suite y, a continuación
  Complementos. Firefox / Thunderbird nunca se sintió cómodo para mí ya que
  Sabía Netscape mejor y así me quedo aquí con Firefox.

 Definitivamente. No llegué a utilizar una suite hasta SM-1.0.6 (que se puede 
 encontrar en
 cabeceras de los mensajes, de todos modos). Empecé en ARPAnet en los años 90, 
 no necesitamos ninguna
 suites apestoso. Uso Mosaic, el comando de correo UNIX y RN. No entrar en chat
 hasta CZ ya estaba fuera, que me llevó a SM.

 --
 Bill Davidsen david...tmr.com
 Tenemos más que temer de la torpeza de los incompetentes que de la
 de las maquinaciones de los malvados. - de Barrapunto

very nice friend, the time old school
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard

Phillip Jones wrote:
Also if some one sends you an image as an attachment that is so large 
you have to scroll side to side or up and down the is a menu  choice 
Autofit  and it reduce to fit screen.


That feature has been built-in since SeaMonkey 1.1.x. Open the image 
directly (which you probably do) and click on the image.

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard

Leonidas Jones wrote:
I'm not seeing any way to get SeaMonkey to zoom just images.  From here 
it appears to either images and text or nothing.


I'm pretty sure you can still zoom only text.
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Benoit Renard

Paul Hartman wrote:

some AJAX-heavy sites that don't work entirely properly in Seamonkey for
whatever reason (Facebook, Google Sites, etc).


In FaceBook's case, that's known to be caused by browser sniffing. 
Complain to FaceBook to get them to stop this nonsense.

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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread Jens Hatlak
SCShot wrote:
 SCShot wrote:
 I keep getting the following message when trying to doing to do
 anything:

 Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device.

 Any clue what is wanted?  I have tried every password I can think of
 but none work.

 Quoting from the Release Notes:
 MailNews account password prompts are no longer serial at startup (Bug
 338549)
 Workaround: If a Master Password is set and you saved your login
 credentials, only one prompt will appear at startup. You can disable
 this new behavior by setting signon.startup.prompt to false in
 about:config.

 You should be able to cancel the prompt(s) to get past them. Then you
 can follow the advice above.
 
 Thanks for the info!  I'm not a power user but know enough to follow
 directions.  Sound like it is code setting that need to be edited.
 signon.startup.prompt to false in
 about:config.  Is there a file in the SeaMonkey directory that I need to 
 edit?

You need to enter about:config, without the quotes, in a SeaMonkey
browser window, click past the warning, then enter
signon.startup.prompt (again without the quotes) in the search bar
appearing inside the window. Then double click the line that is shown to
toggle the value to false.

HTH

Jens

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Re: SM2.0 vs 1.1.18

2009-12-18 Thread Mort

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Mort wrote:

The download for SM 2.0.1 is not verifiable, has no certified signature,
and per my current SM 2, cannot be trusted.


That's your operating system telling that, not your SeaMonkey.


What do I do about downloading the new version? Is there is a safe
download URL?


Yes, use the Help  Check For Updates... function.

Robert Kaiser

Hi,

I did just that, and the screen says that there are no updates available.

So, do I go with the download URL that connects to a German server that 
is allegedly not verifiable? I really would like to download an duse the 
latest version = 2.0.1.


Mort
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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/18/2009 11:58 AM, SCShot wrote:
 I'm still using SM1.18.1 because of the Master Password issue.  It

I think you mean version 1.1.18. It is the most recent 1.1.X version
for SeaMonkey.

 keeps popping always when I start.  I uninstalled SM 2.0 because I
 could get no where.  With SM 2.0.1 I could go a bit further but still
 am plagued by the password issue, so I uninstalled it also.  I want to
 use the newer version but need to resolve the password issue.  I'm
 using an older Dell PC (2006) with Windows XPpro.

I think others have a solution to the master password issue, so I'll
let them get on with that.

 
 I thing repathing the email may be tricky, I just discover that I have
 email in different places, this is the 2008 stuff:
 C:\Documents and Settings\Steven\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
 \Profiles\210thbpd.default\Mail\mail.comcast.net
 
 And my current stuff is here:
 C:\Documents and Settings\Steven\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles
 \default\t5qszkbu.slt\Mail\mail.comcast.net


The word repathing makes me think you intend to just tell SM 2.X
to access the mail currently stored at those locations. This is not
how it works. You need to migrate the mail (and other settings, as
you wish) from your original SM 1.1.18 profile into the new SM 2.X
profile.

Why you have two separate profiles, I don't know. Perhaps you created
a new profile at some point (perhaps in 2008)?

If you have to merge two separate sets of mail folders into your new
profile, there may be some manual work involved, such as copying the
mail files from the old location(s) to the new location.

I haven't done this, so perhaps someone with more migration knowledge
can help you.

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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread SCShot
On Dec 18, 12:23 pm, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 SCShot wrote:
  SCShot wrote:
  I keep getting the following message when trying to doing to do
  anything:

  Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device.

  Any clue what is wanted?  I have tried every password I can think of
  but none work.

  Quoting from the Release Notes:
  MailNews account password prompts are no longer serial at startup (Bug
  338549)
  Workaround: If a Master Password is set and you saved your login
  credentials, only one prompt will appear at startup. You can disable
  this new behavior by setting signon.startup.prompt to false in
  about:config.

  You should be able to cancel the prompt(s) to get past them. Then you
  can follow the advice above.

  Thanks for the info!  I'm not a power user but know enough to follow
  directions.  Sound like it is code setting that need to be edited.
  signon.startup.prompt to false in
  about:config.  Is there a file in the SeaMonkey directory that I need to 
  edit?

 You need to enter about:config, without the quotes, in a SeaMonkey
 browser window, click past the warning, then enter
 signon.startup.prompt (again without the quotes) in the search bar
 appearing inside the window. Then double click the line that is shown to
 toggle the value to false.

 HTH

 Jens

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I reinstalled SM2.0.1 It took several clicking away the Please enter
the master password for the Software Security Device.
to just get the initial SM window.  I did as instructed, and set the
property to False. Soon I got the Please enter ... window again.  So
I closed SM and restarted it only to have the same Please enter ...
come up?

Any other Ideas?

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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread SCShot
On Dec 18, 12:32 pm, Mark Hansen m...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote:
 On 12/18/2009 11:58 AM, SCShot wrote:

  I'm still using SM1.18.1 because of the Master Password issue.  It

 I think you mean version 1.1.18. It is the most recent 1.1.X version
 for SeaMonkey.

  keeps popping always when I start.  I uninstalled SM 2.0 because I
  could get no where.  With SM 2.0.1 I could go a bit further but still
  am plagued by the password issue, so I uninstalled it also.  I want to
  use the newer version but need to resolve the password issue.  I'm
  using an older Dell PC (2006) with Windows XPpro.

 I think others have a solution to the master password issue, so I'll
 let them get on with that.



  I thing repathing the email may be tricky, I just discover that I have
  email in different places, this is the 2008 stuff:
  C:\Documents and Settings\Steven\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
  \Profiles\210thbpd.default\Mail\mail.comcast.net

  And my current stuff is here:
  C:\Documents and Settings\Steven\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles
  \default\t5qszkbu.slt\Mail\mail.comcast.net

 The word repathing makes me think you intend to just tell SM 2.X
 to access the mail currently stored at those locations. This is not
 how it works. You need to migrate the mail (and other settings, as
 you wish) from your original SM 1.1.18 profile into the new SM 2.X
 profile.

 Why you have two separate profiles, I don't know. Perhaps you created
 a new profile at some point (perhaps in 2008)?

 If you have to merge two separate sets of mail folders into your new
 profile, there may be some manual work involved, such as copying the
 mail files from the old location(s) to the new location.

 I haven't done this, so perhaps someone with more migration knowledge
 can help you.

 Best Regards,

Thank you for your assistance.  Unfortunately I'm still at square one
with the password issue.  I'll deal with the email when I get the
password issue resolved.
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Re: I need help with 2.0.1

2009-12-18 Thread SCShot
On Dec 18, 1:10 pm, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
 SCShot wrote:
  On Dec 18, 12:23 pm, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote:
  You need to enter about:config, without the quotes, in a SeaMonkey
  browser window, click past the warning, then enter
  signon.startup.prompt (again without the quotes) in the search bar
  appearing inside the window. Then double click the line that is shown to
  toggle the value to false.

  I reinstalled SM2.0.1 It took several clicking away the Please enter
  the master password for the Software Security Device.
  to just get the initial SM window.  I did as instructed, and set the
  property to False. Soon I got the Please enter ... window again.  So
  I closed SM and restarted it only to have the same Please enter ...
  come up?

  Any other Ideas?

 Go to Preferences, Mail  Newsgroups, and check Only check for new mail
 after opening Mail  Newsgroups.

 HTH

 Jens

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 SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/

That postponed the master password window until I went to mail.  One
of the features about SM is it allows you to see your sorted
passwords.  But I can't use it or get my email.  when SM2 it ask for
the email server password it never makes it to the server and the
master password window appears again.  How do I get rid of the
password issue?  To my knowledge I never set a master password and I
have tried all the password combinations that I might have if I had.
I want to use SM 2 but with out email it voids the reason I went to SM.
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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread question

Martin Freitag wrote:

Test schrieb:

I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
an email address, the program locks up.

Does any one else have this problem? How do I fix this?


pretty many I guess. Probably the Outlook issue.
Try to rename the *.wab file under WindowsUserdirectory\Application 
Data\Microsoft\Adress Book\username.wab

regards

Martin

 Is 2.01 another Beta version ?
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Where does Seamonky put updates?

2009-12-18 Thread Rob Steinmetz
I am getting a prompt to install the 2.0.1 update after it is already 
installed.


I recall that this can be cause by an update not being removed after it 
has completed.


Where does Seamonkey store the updates? Windows XP

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Re: add-on signing error, Adblock Plus from AMO

2009-12-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote:
 This may be peculiar to my setup -- I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0, built with
 Gentoo's script.  I'll try the Gentoo folks if I can't get this worked
 out here, but I thought I'd try you first.

 Trying to install Adblock Plus 1.1.2 gives me a Signing could not be
 verified error.  It's the same whether I try to install AdBlock Plus
 1.1.2 by clicking Add to SeaMonkey from
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1865 or if I try to
 do it through the Add-ons Manager or if I download it from AMO then try
 to install it by dragging my copy to the browser.

 Here's a screenshot of the error, from trying to install it via the
 Add-ons Manager: http://remarqs.net/misc/sm-addon-error.png

 Searching for this error brought up a lot of Firefox references, but
 none had to do with installing stuff from AMO, where I'd expect the
 certs to be all ok.

Try this link to see if the root certificate for StartSSL is installed
in your browser (and add it if it's not):
http://www.startssl.com/?app=9
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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:


I can have a column to the right for the size of a posting. The title
of this column can either be lines or size, depending on the Pref. In
the second case i get the size in KB.

For text groups i prefer the number of lines.


Perhaps screenshots can show what i mean. I know good enough about my
lack of sufficient knowledge of English.

This posting has 12 lines
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/li091218.png (27 KB)

and this one is a posting with a size of 218KB.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/si091218.jpg (140 KB)

The last one is from a newsgroup in which self-made pictures are shown.
I have chosen one from today.

You are free to join and post own pictures, but the language for this
special newsgroup is German. :-P

Hartmut

Ordinary German or high German?

Have a Friend that his with was originally from Austria She speaks high 
German. And can translate some dialects of of ordinary German. As for 
myself I have difficultly speaking Southern Virginia English. :-)


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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:


I can have a column to the right for the size of a posting. The title
of this column can either be lines or size, depending on the Pref. In
the second case i get the size in KB.

For text groups i prefer the number of lines.


Perhaps screenshots can show what i mean. I know good enough about my
lack of sufficient knowledge of English.

This posting has 12 lines
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/li091218.png (27 KB)

and this one is a posting with a size of 218KB.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/si091218.jpg (140 KB)

The last one is from a newsgroup in which self-made pictures are shown.
I have chosen one from today.

You are free to join and post own pictures, but the language for this
special newsgroup is German. :-P

Hartmut

 for everyone;see this:
http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeySubjectbar.png

notice the menu I clicked on: everyone of the items if check can be 
shown in the bar that shows Subject.


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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:


I can have a column to the right for the size of a posting. The title
of this column can either be lines or size, depending on the Pref. In
the second case i get the size in KB.

For text groups i prefer the number of lines.


Perhaps screenshots can show what i mean. I know good enough about my
lack of sufficient knowledge of English.

This posting has 12 lines
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/li091218.png (27 KB)

and this one is a posting with a size of 218KB.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/si091218.jpg (140 KB)

The last one is from a newsgroup in which self-made pictures are shown.
I have chosen one from today.

You are free to join and post own pictures, but the language for this
special newsgroup is German. :-P

Hartmut

Ordinary German or high German?

Have a Friend that his *wife* was originally from Austria She speaks high
German. And can translate some dialects of of ordinary German. As for
myself I have difficultly speaking Southern Virginia English. :-)



messed  up a word sorry .
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What can we expect in restoring form manger?

2009-12-18 Thread me2
I'm not wise to the ways of SM's programmers-
is there  hope ?
if so what/when can we expect any change?

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Leonidas Jones

Benoit Renard wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

I'm not seeing any way to get SeaMonkey to zoom just images. From here
it appears to either images and text or nothing.


I'm pretty sure you can still zoom only text.


Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1 
does not seem to have it.


Or is it hidden somewhere else?

Lee
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Benoit Renard wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x  and sad that it
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
do a port of it in the new code.


This is correct.


(Despite all the protestations otherwise by the developers, they decided
because they didn't use it there wasn't a need for it so they dumped it.)


But this is wrong. You gave the correct explanation at first, so why do
you follow it up with lies?

Patches welcome.


It isn't a lie if they thought was useful for people to use. they would 
have made the effort to find someone to look at and port it over. But 
since they didn't use it they didn't see a need. Granted as part of this 
decision, they didn't have  time, energy, desire, know-how to do it. 
But developers  especially for open source, if they don't use something, 
they don't see a need and they fore they can take less time by removing it.


For Profit on the other hand build sole for the CEO and Board of 
Directors, Consumers have very little to do with it.


Use users just have to deal with it. I'm sorry if I sound cynical. But 
I've been dealing with computers and computer software since the early 
80's. I've been on many forums, for many software companies. And I 
continue to see this running thread. That The consumer or user figures 
very little into software development.


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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Benoit Renard wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

I'm not seeing any way to get SeaMonkey to zoom just images.  From here
it appears to either images and text or nothing.


I'm pretty sure you can still zoom only text.
 No SM built in zoom zooms or reduces everything text and images. while 
image zoom does just that. zoom or reduce and image.


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Re: How do I reduce the header width??

2009-12-18 Thread Leonidas Jones

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

I'm using the three pane view in (clean install) SM 2.0 on (clean
install) Windows 7.

When I view a message either in my Mail account and/or my various
newsgroups on various servers, the Header portion is extra wide, showing
not only the normal Subject, From, Date and newsgroups lines, I'm also
seeing Message-ID, Path, NNPT-posting-date and User Agent lines of the
message.

I have a scroll bar which allows me to see the rest of the Header info.

How do I reduce the width(depth) of the header section, keeping the
scroll bar, so that I will be able to see more of the message.

TIA

Daniel


Thanks to all respondents..What a goose I feel!!

In the moz.gen group, I was replying to a message asking how the OP
could connect to melbpc.computers, and went to look at his full header
and found out I was already set to full headers, switching back to
normal returned the header to its normal four lines (How do I type in
one of those embarrassed smiley faces??).

Still, I'm sure at sometime in the past, someone here-abouts gave a
user.js (or something) script that would set the header to some width
and include an effective scroll bar.

Daniel


I've got full headers at all times.  There is an arrow that allows one 
line and an easy toggle.  Full headers are displayed at 8 lines, with a 
scroll bar.


It might be theme dependent, I am usong Sailfish's Venerable Modern.

Lee
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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Phillip Jones:

  for everyone;see this:
http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeySubjectbar.png

And the row with 'Lines' could be 'Size'.

notice the menu I clicked on: everyone of the items if check can be 
shown in the bar that shows Subject.

Why do you have checked 'Junk Status' for a newsgroup?

Hartmut, curious
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Leonidas Jones:

Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1 
does not seem to have it.

Or is it hidden somewhere else?

Right side, last row.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/tx091219.png (36 KB)

Hartmut
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/18/2009 3:39 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 Benoit Renard wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x  and sad that it
 removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
 do a port of it in the new code.

 This is correct.

 (Despite all the protestations otherwise by the developers, they decided
 because they didn't use it there wasn't a need for it so they dumped it.)

 But this is wrong. You gave the correct explanation at first, so why do
 you follow it up with lies?

 Patches welcome.
 
 It isn't a lie if they thought was useful for people to use. they would 
 have made the effort to find someone to look at and port it over. But 
 since they didn't use it they didn't see a need. Granted as part of this 
 decision, they didn't have  time, energy, desire, know-how to do it. 
 But developers  especially for open source, if they don't use something, 
 they don't see a need and they fore they can take less time by removing it.

Good Grief! Do you realize that the collection of people working on
SeaMonkey isn't large enough to fix everything?

The rest of your argument is so ridiculous that I don't think it
needs comment. Other readers will take from it what they will.

 
 For Profit on the other hand build sole for the CEO and Board of 
 Directors, Consumers have very little to do with it.

Also an unfair generalization. I've worked for For Profit companies
developing software solutions, and the customer has always had a very
large voice in what we did. They were paying the bills after all.

 
 Use users just have to deal with it. I'm sorry if I sound cynical. But 

Cynical is not the word I would use.

Why are you here? Do you believe you are enlightening others in the
workings of the real world?

Do you understand that the people working on SeaMonkey are volunteers?
They are working in their spare time for no monetary compensation.

 I've been dealing with computers and computer software since the early 
 80's. I've been on many forums, for many software companies. And I 
 continue to see this running thread. That The consumer or user figures 
 very little into software development.
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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread Jay Hochstaine

Test wrote:

I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
an email address, the program locks up.

Does any one else have this problem? How do I fix this?

Len
I had the same lockup problem. I did a remove ver 2.0.1 and returned to 
2.0.0. A re-install of 2.0.2 did not fix the lockup.


Jay



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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Phillip Jones:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 You are free to join and post own pictures, but the language for this
 special newsgroup is German. :-P

Ordinary German or high German?

High, mostly. But many posters are from Austria and use sometimes words
which are unknown in Germany. Then i have to ask or guess from the
context. *g*

Hartmut
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seamonkey 2.0.1 mail crashing

2009-12-18 Thread rich904
I noticed yesterday and today while in compose a mail message that I
will sometimes freeze up. I happens while I am typing the recipient
address. I cannot exit the application. Have to go to Task Manager to
kill Seamonkey and restart application. Happened on my machine at home
last night once or twice. Happend repeatedly this am at work. I
restarted machine from cold start. Happened again three times in a row
when composing a message just a few minutes ago (late afternoon).
Anyone seen this? I am suspicious of something in this auto update
that just applied. Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: 2.01 Email locks up

2009-12-18 Thread JAS
Jay Hochstaine wrote:
 Test wrote:
 I sadly let sea monkey automatically update.  Now when I start to type
 an email address, the program locks up.

 Does any one else have this problem? How do I fix this?

 Len
 I had the same lockup problem. I did a remove ver 2.0.1 and returned
 to 2.0.0. A re-install of 2.0.2 did not fix the lockup.

 Jay



I had lock up problems and emails disappearing durning composing but it
was my version of Enigmail I was usoing, I upgraded to the latest
version for SM  and all was fine.

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Re: How do I reduce the header width??

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

I'm using the three pane view in (clean install) SM 2.0 on (clean
install) Windows 7.

When I view a message either in my Mail account and/or my various
newsgroups on various servers, the Header portion is extra wide, showing
not only the normal Subject, From, Date and newsgroups lines, I'm also
seeing Message-ID, Path, NNPT-posting-date and User Agent lines of the
message.

I have a scroll bar which allows me to see the rest of the Header info.

How do I reduce the width(depth) of the header section, keeping the
scroll bar, so that I will be able to see more of the message.

TIA

Daniel


Thanks to all respondents..What a goose I feel!!

In the moz.gen group, I was replying to a message asking how the OP
could connect to melbpc.computers, and went to look at his full header
and found out I was already set to full headers, switching back to
normal returned the header to its normal four lines (How do I type in
one of those embarrassed smiley faces??).

Still, I'm sure at sometime in the past, someone here-abouts gave a
user.js (or something) script that would set the header to some width
and include an effective scroll bar.

Daniel


I've got full headers at all times.  There is an arrow that allows one
line and an easy toggle.  Full headers are displayed at 8 lines, with a
scroll bar.

It might be theme dependent, I am usong Sailfish's Venerable Modern.

Lee

what happen when you set view  Headers  Normal (Should be 5 items).

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Leonidas Jones:


Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1
does not seem to have it.

Or is it hidden somewhere else?


Right side, last row.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/tx091219.png (36 KB)

Hartmut

I have set that way.

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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Phillip Jones:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Why do you have checked 'Junk Status' for a newsgroup?

 Hartmut, curious
Whatever you have set for email also shows up in newsgroups as well.

Mhm, i can set it for an account or even for a single newsgroup.

They are global settings not customized according whether email or 
newsgroups.

I'm using Mnenhy since a very long time and had forgotten the
restrictions without it. Sorry.

Hartmut
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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 12/18/2009 3:39 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x  and sad that it
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
do a port of it in the new code.


This is correct.


(Despite all the protestations otherwise by the developers, they decided
because they didn't use it there wasn't a need for it so they dumped it.)


But this is wrong. You gave the correct explanation at first, so why do
you follow it up with lies?

Patches welcome.


It isn't a lie if they thought was useful for people to use. they would
have made the effort to find someone to look at and port it over. But
since they didn't use it they didn't see a need. Granted as part of this
decision, they didn't have  time, energy, desire, know-how to do it.
But developers  especially for open source, if they don't use something,
they don't see a need and they fore they can take less time by removing it.


Good Grief! Do you realize that the collection of people working on
SeaMonkey isn't large enough to fix everything?

The rest of your argument is so ridiculous that I don't think it
needs comment. Other readers will take from it what they will.



For Profit on the other hand build sole for the CEO and Board of
Directors, Consumers have very little to do with it.


Also an unfair generalization. I've worked for For Profit companies
developing software solutions, and the customer has always had a very
large voice in what we did. They were paying the bills after all.



Use users just have to deal with it. I'm sorry if I sound cynical. But


Cynical is not the word I would use.

Why are you here? Do you believe you are enlightening others in the
workings of the real world?

Do you understand that the people working on SeaMonkey are volunteers?
They are working in their spare time for no monetary compensation.


I've been dealing with computers and computer software since the early
80's. I've been on many forums, for many software companies. And I
continue to see this running thread. That The consumer or user figures
very little into software development.
I realize they are understaffed, and doing it for free, to have time and 
effort and find someone with the know how. if it something they don't 
use why expend the energy. Reality is reality.


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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Phillip Jones:

Hartmut Figge wrote:



Why do you have checked 'Junk Status' for a newsgroup?

Hartmut, curious

Whatever you have set for email also shows up in newsgroups as well.


Mhm, i can set it for an account or even for a single newsgroup.


They are global settings not customized according whether email or
newsgroups.


I'm using Mnenhy since a very long time and had forgotten the
restrictions without it. Sorry.

Hartmut
I just tried and If I turn it off in news and if I go to email, it is 
not there.


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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Hartmut Figge
Phillip Jones:

I just tried and If I turn it off in news and if I go to email, it is 
not there.

Yes, so it is without Mnenhy. I have just checked by disabling it. With
Mnenhy enabled i have my own setting. Junk-column only for mail and even
there not for all folders.

Why should i have a Junk-column for e.g. Sent or Draft? ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Sending problem

2009-12-18 Thread Farelf

Jens Hatlak wrote:

John Cunniff wrote:

When attempting to type in an e-mail address in Compose window. As soon
as I finish typing, SeaMonkey stopped working. I tried to type, but
nothing. I had to close this window. I got a message from SeaMonkey
saying that this program did not respond. It asked me to end now or
cancel. I ended this task.


This has been reported as bug 535528.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535528


...

A noted in the later thread 
news://news.mozilla.org:119/8sednyscg8dg5lbwnz2dnuvz_oji4...@mozilla.org
- removing the .wab addressbook worked for me - autocomplete in address 
entry during compose no longer causes the freeze.


That file was

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Application Data\Microsoft\Address 
Book\Admin.wab

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Re: seamonkey 2.0.1 mail crashing

2009-12-18 Thread Farelf

rich904 wrote:

I noticed yesterday and today while in compose a mail message that I
will sometimes freeze up. I happens while I am typing the recipient
address. I cannot exit the application. Have to go to Task Manager to
kill Seamonkey and restart application. Happened on my machine at home
last night once or twice. Happend repeatedly this am at work. I
restarted machine from cold start. Happened again three times in a row
when composing a message just a few minutes ago (late afternoon).
Anyone seen this? I am suspicious of something in this auto update
that just applied. Thanks for any suggestions.


Same problem for me (on home computer) was caused by autocomplete 
referencing the OE address book.  'Solved' by removing the .wab file - 
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Application Data\Microsoft\Address 
Book\Admin.wab


May be a touch more complicated with work computer and addressbooks on 
server.  There have been 2 previous threads (at least) started on this. 
 Perhaps there are clues about the server solution there (there weren't 
when last I looked but ...).

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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Leonidas Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Leonidas Jones:


Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1
does not seem to have it.

Or is it hidden somewhere else?


Right side, last row.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/tx091219.png (36 KB)

Hartmut


Okay, that;s where it was hidden.  I was expecting it to be in the same 
place as Firefox, in the view menu, not in preferences.


Might be better in the view menu, to allow a quick choice as to what to 
zoom.


Lee
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Re: How do I reduce the header width??

2009-12-18 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

/snip/

Thanks to all respondents..What a goose I feel!!

In the moz.gen group, I was replying to a message asking how the OP
could connect to melbpc.computers, and went to look at his full header
and found out I was already set to full headers, switching back to
normal returned the header to its normal four lines (How do I type in
one of those embarrassed smiley faces??).

Still, I'm sure at sometime in the past, someone here-abouts gave a
user.js (or something) script that would set the header to some width
and include an effective scroll bar.

Daniel


I've got full headers at all times. There is an arrow that allows one
line and an easy toggle. Full headers are displayed at 8 lines, with a
scroll bar.

It might be theme dependent, I am usong Sailfish's Venerable Modern.

Lee

what happen when you set view  Headers  Normal (Should be 5 items).

 Actually more, though I don't want to do that.  I prefer the all view, 
since I can collapse it to one line easily.


Lee
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Re: SM 2.0.1 Mac Bug?..

2009-12-18 Thread Rufus

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

When I open SM 2.0.1, the app opens and the command bar at the top of
the screen switches to SM, but the Browser window is not placed in the
foreground - I have to click on the Browser to make it the active window
vice just opening the app.



Not happening here, SM 2.0.1, on Snow Leopard.  The browser opens, and
it has focus.

Do you have other applications open when you open SM?  Is SM set to open
with the browser, or both browser and mail/news?

Lee


I have a periodic problem which I put to bugzilla. That on occasion when 
I go to browser it shows about:blank.


That particular problem occurs if I don't have browser check to start on 
startup. in preferences

No there is another version of the same problem.

in the new style window for home I am finding SM2/2.0.1 is sometimes 
placing a space after the url for the home page.  Example:
http://www.kimbanet.com/ is written as http://www.kimbanet.com/space 
(This indicates a Space) return


I go to my home page then wipe out everything in that box and choose 
current page.  it writes it correctly and I quit preference setting.


works for a while and I am back to about:blank.

Can any one tell me which about:blank was put in, in in the first place. 
Seems I remember a time when there was no such thing as about:blank




I just updated my G5 iMac running Leopard to SM 2.0.1, and is it not 
behaving as I describe in the original post - when I open SM, it opens 
with the Browser window in front.


The only things I can see I've done different from my Intel iMac and 
MacBook Pro are that at present, I do not have SM assigned to a Space 
(I'll try that later...) and that I think I got the disk image from 
another mirror than I got my previous install from - I have no idea 
which mirror(s), but I got my disk image from the SM site in both cases.


...that, and Lep vs Sno-Lep.  I'll also try a re-install of 2.0.1 on 
both of the two other machines from the disk image I just downloaded.


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Re: add-on signing error, Adblock Plus from AMO

2009-12-18 Thread »Q«
In
news:mailman.569.1261177201.4112.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org,
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Try this link to see if the root certificate for StartSSL is installed
 in your browser (and add it if it's not):
 http://www.startssl.com/?app=9

Thanks.  With both Firefox and SeaMonkey, I get a javascript alert box
telling me it's already installed.  (This is after installing
nss-3.12.4 along with its cert database.)

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Re: Indication of Size ( kb's) of posts

2009-12-18 Thread Phillip Jones

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Phillip Jones:


I just tried and If I turn it off in news and if I go to email, it is
not there.


Yes, so it is without Mnenhy. I have just checked by disabling it. With
Mnenhy enabled i have my own setting. Junk-column only for mail and even
there not for all folders.

Why should i have a Junk-column for e.g. Sent or Draft? ;)

Hartmut


I agree that it only should be for email but that is just the way it is 
setup.


I's never really bothered me I've simply ignored it since spam filtering 
don't work on newsgroups and never has.


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Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?

2009-12-18 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:01:42 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:

 Okay, that;s where it was hidden.  I was expecting it to be in the same 
 place as Firefox, in the view menu, not in preferences.
 
 Might be better in the view menu, to allow a quick choice as to what to 
 zoom.

Of course, this is a wanted feature, if only because there are Firefox
extensions (that we would like the authors to port to SeaMonkey) that
depend on that menu item being in the View menu.

Phil

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