multiple email issues with SM 1.18

[David Lawler]

Using SeaMonkey 1.18, Win XPH SP3. Having lots of weird email problems, 
which I never used to have, and can't figure out. I have two primary 
accounts, one for personal mail, one for business mail.  (Preliminarily, 
I know that support for SM 1.x is done, and I do plan to switch to 2.x, 
but I need to figure this out first.)


I am having the following problems:


Personal account:

junk mail doesn't go to junk folder -- goes to trash (although junk 
filter is set to send it to junk folder)


junk mail is automatically marked as read

the junk filter is obviously not updating with the new junk messages as 
junk messages from the same source, or similar messages from different 
sources (messages with garbled "from" addresses pitching various drugs 
and other medical stuff) keep showing up in the inbox



Business account:

puts junk mail in junk folder but still marks as read

is supposedly set to automatically download messages but does not (at 
least not reliably)


posts I make to newsgroups that I subscribe to under that account don't 
show anymore. I only know they posted when someone replies to them, then 
I can see from the reply that my post is what they are replying to. (I 
can't even find a setting that would seem to affect that). Re-doing the 
msf file does not help.



I tried SM 2.0 when it came out, it didn't import any of my settings, 
email, bookmarks, etc., I didn't have time to try to figure that out so 
I uninstalled it and reinstalled 1.18. This was 4 months ago, things 
have been messed up at least since then.


I suspect that I may need to mess with about:config to fix some of this 
stuff, but I have no idea what settings to look at.


Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Dave
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb:

* Firefox from a relevant build at:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ 






This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it
may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger.


Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the
builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference
points (for me to actually look at bonsai with).



I'm here to test, when ready.

Lee


I just installed SM 1.1.19 on my G4/500 Sawtooth running 10.4.11 - it 
launches and runs just fine.


I moved my previous app (SM 1.1.18) to the Trash first, then dragged 
over 1.1.19 in it's place and launched it, surfed a bit.  No problems.


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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....

[Leonidas Jones]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb:

* Firefox from a relevant build at:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/




This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it
may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger.


Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the
builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference
points (for me to actually look at bonsai with).



I'm here to test, when ready.

Lee
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb:

* Firefox from a relevant build at:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/



This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it
may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger.


Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the 
builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference 
points (for me to actually look at bonsai with).


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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 You are getting a timeout because Verizon *killed* NNTP news
 service for its subscribers last year. You can blame New York
 State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo [1] for that. Other major ISPs
 did as well, notably AT&T. 
 
>>> Can you supply any links from reliable sources explaining that? I'm
>>> not in NY, so I didn't get the memo, but I'm in line for Verizon
>>> FiOS, so I may be at risk if what you're saying is true.
>> 
>> Sure. Google is your friend.  (You didn't believe me...  )
>> 
> 
> This one is not so clear. First, it talks about Usenet, which AFAIK 
> Mozilla news is not. Second, it says "specifically to the alt.bin and 
> alt.bain newsgroup hierarchies that provide actual data files," which 
> doesn't cover us either.

Well, okay, I guess access to the mozilla.* isn't affected - but that's
only a couple dozen groups. What VZ, AT&T, Comcast, etc have done is
they have closed down their *own* servers that mirrors the
-thousand of Usenet groups.

>> 
> 
> This one is clearer, mentioning innocuous tech support groups by name.
> 
> If the ISPs get enough complaints, they'll tailor their restrictions
> narrowly as they should have in the first place. 

We complained bitterly (see AT&T below). Remember, we are among the
'less-than-2%' of ISP subscribers who even know what a newsgroup is.
It's a very small voice, and it didn't work.

>> ..many more. Google for:  verizon cuomo usenet 
>> 
>> He did it to AT&T, Comcast, and others. Not just New York; the ISPs
>> removed it nationwide. 
>> 
>> There will be no Usenet access with your FiOS. 
>> 
>> You're not 'at risk.' Just go get a free account at
>> eternal-september.org  or a €10/year account at news.individual.net
>> which is very reliable.
> 
> I never realized my ISP was even a party to these transactions; I
> thought they were just a common carrier that transmitted whatever
> data I sent or requested. Now, I don't go in for kiddie porn, but if
> I wanted to download perfectly legal adult material I don't see what
> business of theirs it would be.

You can still go download pr0n, even kiddie pr0n if you want. You just
ain't gonna get it from any server Verizon owns. The binary groups are
still there, humming along nicely I suppose. All that was killed was the
major ISP access via their servers.

There is an unmentioned point here (but since you're looking for
details) and that is the Cuomo Crusade gave the ISPs the *EXCUSE* to
shut down their NNTP server farms, and *save a lot* of money, while
blaming it all on the politically-ambitious NY AG. Nowhere in any of any
ISP's publications did they publically admit this.

I was an AT&T Worldnet subscriber until mid-2008. Our internal
newsgroups (support, user-to-user support, general...) were staffed by
employees. Keeping friendly watch on us chickens, so to speak. In
private email, they told me it was the perfect reason for them to just
pull the entire plug on providing Usenet for anyone.

The AT&T guy said they would now save somewhere around 4 Terrabytes per
day in bandwidth as well (the entire Usenet).

If all you care about are the mozilla groups, you're in great shape. I
thought you were interested in Usenet as well.

Oh, and speaking of small voices, the nearly two million Worldnet
subscribers are losing everything except their email on March 31st.
Worldnet itself is going away. They must migrate their email to other
AT&T brands (att.yahoo.com f'r ex) and give up their dialup access,
personal web pages et al.

I apologize for the length.

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 20/3/2010 12:09, John Klein told the world:
> I am a copywriter with no Internet technology backround, and I need a way to
> create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list
> owners.  Their instructions say that the email message must be in pure HTML
> code, no style sheets  or templates.
>  
> Can I use SeaMonkey to create these HTML email messages?  If so, could
> someone point me in the right direction to get started.  Thanks.

Well, you could, in theory. But HTML in e-mail is a very badly
standardized thing, and it got worse since Microsoft rolled out Outlook
2007 -- which uses MS-Word as a rendering engine (very, very bad support
for modern standards), instead of Internet Explorer (merely weak support
for same standards). The gist of it is that creating a HTML e-mail that
renders acceptably in a variety of clients (both e-mail programs and
webmail sites) is a kind of black art -- a bit like creating a website
in 1999, only worse because now we *know* there is a better way.

Any HTML message created using an automated WYSIGYG tool, be it
Seamonkey Composer or Adobe Dreamweaver, *will* fail to render correctly
for a large share of recipients. The fancier you get, the more problems
will appear. If you aren't comfortable with hand-coding and researching
tricks all over the Web, I advise you to keep it very plain and simple.

JeffM's comment came off a bit harsh, but he does have a point: there's
no well-supported standard for HTML email. What *is* supported is
plaintext -- that will display everywhere, in the way you intended. But
I expect that's not what your customers want to hear.

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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Leonidas Jones]

Frog wrote:

Thanks again JAS for helping me.  It seems that you along with Mark came
to my aid only a few days ago.

JAS wrote:

Frog wrote:

I am currently subscribed to three accounts (established when I
purchased my computer). I would like to subscribe to others such
groups like genealogy, bird watching, traveling, etc, I don't know
how to access a complete listing of all possible groups that one can
subscribe to.

When I click File (on the SeaMonkey Mail page)>open Subscribe--I can
only see the three Accounts that are currently subscribed to on my
system. Should I be able to (somehow) access the complete listing
from this window?

Is there some place on the web that will help me with this subject?

Also, I think I will have to establish a new entry in the Mail &
Newsgroups Account Settings for each group I subscribe to--is that
correct?

I know that the answers to my questions are located someplace on the
Internet--but where?

Thanks for any information sent my way on this subject.

Windows XP Pro SP3 -- both SeaMonkey 1.1.18 and 2.0.3

Frog

If you mean the different accounts in news.mozilla.org you can left
click on the Bold name and select "manage subscriptions and then click
on mozilla to see what they have. If you want microsoft sites go to
edit- mail and newsgroups-add new news account- put msnews.microsoft.com
port 119 . You might also look here
http://www.annexcafe.com/ or here http://shrunklink.com/eiay


I understand about subscribing to other Mozilla newsgroups listed under
the Mozilla account on my system. I also have an account on my system
for Microsoft. Lets say that I wanted to establish an account for
genealogy--where do I find server addresses for this subject?

I made a quick review of the two web sites you referenced above. Because
of the time (1 AM), I will explore both sites in more depth
tomorrow--I'm about to go to sleep.

Frog




Hi Frog,

Read up a bit on Usenet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

Most of the groups you are looking for are accessible via Usenet. As 
Beau has explained, most ISP's have dropped newsgroup support. I am 
fortunate in that Cox retains newsgroups, though they are outsourced.


The Mozilla Support groups you  are seeing now are not a part of Usenet. 
They can only be accessed s newsgroups through the news.mozilla.org 
server, as you are doing now. I don't have any interest in the MS 
groups, so I won't speak to them.


There is no one dedicated server for groups such as Genealogy. These 
groups are accessible via Usenet. Since you ISP does not provide Usenet 
access, you will need to find a newsgroup provider.  That will allow you 
to find the groups you want.


With the interests you mention, I agree with most, a free server will do 
the job for you.  I have had great success with Eternal-September:


http://www.eternal-september.org/

Sign up for a free account, then follow the directions to set it up. YOu 
will find all kinds of text based groups for your iterest areas.


Lee


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Re: Creating HTML email messages

[JeffM]

John Klein wrote:
>I need a way to create several HTML email messages
>for transmission by 3rd party email list owners.

First, tell them that is the stupid way to do things.
Email is a plain text medium.
HTML is for Web pages.
1) Create the HTML page.
2) Upload the page to a server.
3) Email only the link to the Web page.
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Phillip Jones]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:

have you go an email address you can send me to my email address and I
will make a screen shot of the about Crashes. and send to you two most
recent were caused by an older version of Flash and my trying to view a
page some one on this group sent that said wouldn't show right it was
about a car dealership.


Just post the crash IDs (as displayed in about:crashes) here, please.

Robert Kaiser


(these were caused by flash Plugin)
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/03f6f10f-f738-4d13-8d04-3c0eb2100127
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9f52f227-c6ca-42cc-a43f-17d022100314 



http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0365c652-fda6-4cb8-9aca-358bc2100314
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b4006c9f-bbee-4086-8dbd-97d2c2100219
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6d770450-991c-4bf9-9dc5-951532100128
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/03f6f10f-f738-4d13-8d04-3c0eb2100127
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/de2326b0-18ce-445c-a8e7-fe4b22100114
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/d2688708-f99c-4cef-99b0-ec4f02100114
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/cd700624-36a0-410a-a9a0-3224c2100112
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/aac2d429-eaaa-466d-bccf-c25982091228
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/408f3ae8-02ec-464f-ac54-1965a2091224
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/dc4f783f-3fe1-4926-81ca-9c3372091223
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/68e79e92-f679-47b9-a0bc-54c9f2091223
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/4a35ff2f-41ee-4e1e-8a8f-e0cc12091029

here are the ones that haven't been purged there was another screen full 
I purged by mistake.


Altogether somewhere over 20. and this doesn't count hangs which don't 
report as crashes. Might be in the crash system


Plus there is a bug about going from mail to first post in a newsgroup 
when hitting the next button doesn't highlight the post and open, just 
an open box around it and to read that post have to make sure to mark it 
as unread, shut down SM2 the open again and then you can read the post. 
and then the status box staying on the screen even after a post is 
copied and sent. Then there is a problem which a bug has been submitted 
for every few post show up with odd characters diamonds with question 
marks boxes with what look like has text in it. Have  bugs on all these 
submitted.


I'm not going back to SM1,  one of these days it will be crash free.
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

>>

You are getting a timeout because Verizon *killed* NNTP news service
for its subscribers last year. You can blame New York State Attorney
General Andrew Cuomo [1] for that. Other major ISPs did as well,
notably AT&T.

>>>

Can you supply any links from reliable sources explaining that? I'm
not in NY, so I didn't get the memo, but I'm in line for Verizon
FiOS, so I may be at risk if what you're saying is true.


Sure. Google is your friend.  (You didn't believe me...  )



This one is not so clear. First, it talks about Usenet, which AFAIK 
Mozilla news is not. Second, it says "specifically to the alt.bin and 
alt.bain newsgroup hierarchies that provide actual data files," which 
doesn't cover us either.






This one is clearer, mentioning innocuous tech support groups by name.

If the ISPs get enough complaints, they'll tailor their restrictions 
narrowly as they should have in the first place.



..many more. Google for:  verizon cuomo usenet

He did it to AT&T, Comcast, and others. Not just New York; the ISPs
removed it nationwide.

There will be no Usenet access with your FiOS.

...

You're not 'at risk.' Just go get a free account at
eternal-september.org  or a €10/year account at news.individual.net
which is very reliable.


I never realized my ISP was even a party to these transactions; I 
thought they were just a common carrier that transmitted whatever data I 
sent or requested. Now, I don't go in for kiddie porn, but if I wanted 
to download perfectly legal adult material I don't see what business of 
theirs it would be.


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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Ant]

On 3/20/2010 1:39 PM PT, Bill Davidsen typed:


Libraries. Remember I mentioned the Linux library issues, with the
1.1.19 test requiring loading of an older version of the libc? May be
the same thing on Mac, something in the library stuff changed. Don't
suppose Mac has those 32/64 bit issues I see with Linux and Windows,
needing the "other" library installed. Would explain why it works for
some people, though.


Yeah, I am thinking of that too. We need to strace or something of it 
loading and whatever it does with v1.1.19. I don't have my old PowerBook 
G4 with Mac OS X 10.2.8 to try it.

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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Ant]

On 3/19/2010 3:47 PM PT, Leonidas Jones typed:


Noting Robert's comments, even if it were, active, the program doesn't
ever actually open, so nothing to report. The Activity Montor shows it
active for a few seconds, then it disappears.


How about strace if it exists?
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Bill Davidsen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


You are getting a timeout because Verizon *killed* NNTP news service for
its subscribers last year. You can blame New York State Attorney General
Andrew Cuomo [1] for that. Other major ISPs did as well, notably AT&T.


Can you supply any links from reliable sources explaining that? I'm not 
in NY, so I didn't get the memo, but I'm in line for Verizon FiOS, so I 
may be at risk if what you're saying is true.


How you connect to the net has nothing to do with who you contact. Create a new 
account for news.eternal-september.net and register (per previous post 
instructions), then click on the account in the sidebar and the "manage 
subscriptions" option in the main window.


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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Bill Davidsen]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/16/2010 9:05 PM PT, Leonidas Jones typed:


A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work on any Mac OSX version
prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18.


Wow, how and why did v1.1.19 require higher Mac OS X versions?


It's shouldn't. I see no reason why it would.

Libraries. Remember I mentioned the Linux library issues, with the 1.1.19 test 
requiring loading of an older version of the libc? May be the same thing on Mac, 
something in the library stuff changed. Don't suppose Mac has those 32/64 bit 
issues I see with Linux and Windows, needing the "other" library installed. 
Would explain why it works for some people, though.


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Re: Tab Behavior

[Bill Davidsen]

NoOp wrote:

On 03/16/2010 08:48 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote:

Mike C a écrit :

The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in
a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it.
Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on 
either opens links in new tabs. It even works for email and newsgroups 
links.


S.


On my system clicking on the mouse wheel opens the link in a new window.
All of my preferences are set to use a new tab in the current window.


Mine open a tab for middle click:
browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground;true
browser.tabs.loadInBackground;true
browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick;true

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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> You are getting a timeout because Verizon *killed* NNTP news service
>> for its subscribers last year. You can blame New York State Attorney
>> General Andrew Cuomo [1] for that. Other major ISPs did as well,
>> notably AT&T.
> 
> Can you supply any links from reliable sources explaining that? I'm
> not in NY, so I didn't get the memo, but I'm in line for Verizon
> FiOS, so I may be at risk if what you're saying is true.

Sure. Google is your friend.  (You didn't believe me...  )


..many more. Google for:  verizon cuomo usenet

He did it to AT&T, Comcast, and others. Not just New York; the ISPs
removed it nationwide.

There will be no Usenet access with your FiOS.

Of course, the whole thing was a sham. He's looking to be Governor next
year, and probably president soon after. "I saved the U.S. from child
pornography!!!"  But did it stop anyone who wants CP?  No, they just
signed up with Giganews or somebody and continued on their merry way.

You're not 'at risk.' Just go get a free account at
eternal-september.org  or a €10/year account at news.individual.net
which is very reliable.

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Re: Tab Behavior

[Bill Davidsen]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Mike C a écrit :

The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in
a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it.


Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on 
either opens links in new tabs. It even works for email and newsgroups 
links.


Be aware that if you set middle click to open in tab it breaks middle click in 
scroll bar to position the slider in news/mail. I tried to report this as a bug, 
but it's apparently intended behavior. I live with it, shift-left_click 
positions the slider just fine.


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Re: Tab Behavior

[Bill Davidsen]

Mike C wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/14/10 11:12 AM, Mike C wrote:

Uninstalled SM 1.1.18
Installed SM 2.0 updated to 2.0.3
It went seamless!

Problem is I can't get links to open in a new tab by default.

I have set this behavior in preferences.
"Open links meant to open a new window in
A new tab in the current window"

PS: I posted this in N.P.M.Seamonkey but didn't get any response so I
thought I'd try here.


That setting will apply only if the new page would otherwise launch a
new window.

If a link would open its page in the same window where you selected the
link, you can force the new page into a new tab.  This requires setting
the appropriate checkbox in the Tabbed Browsing pane under "Open tabs
instead of windows for".

You might also go to your Windows control panel and double-click on the
Mouse icon.  On the Buttons tab, make sure the scrolling wheel is set to
be "Middle Button".

What I wanted was to be able to single left click on a link and have a 
new TAB open automatically.


That's the way I had tabbrowser extentions in SM 1.1.18
tabbrowser extentions won't work in SB 2


Set your middle click to 'open in new tab' and then you can left click to open 
in same tab, middle click for new. Then you can always have it do what you want 
for any given link.


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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Robert Kaiser]

Phillip Jones schrieb:

have you go an email address you can send me to my email address and I
will make a screen shot of the about Crashes. and send to you two most
recent were caused by an older version of Flash and my trying to view a
page some one on this group sent that said wouldn't show right it was
about a car dealership.


Just post the crash IDs (as displayed in about:crashes) here, please.

Robert Kaiser
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


You are getting a timeout because Verizon *killed* NNTP news service for
its subscribers last year. You can blame New York State Attorney General
Andrew Cuomo [1] for that. Other major ISPs did as well, notably AT&T.


Can you supply any links from reliable sources explaining that? I'm not 
in NY, so I didn't get the memo, but I'm in line for Verizon FiOS, so I 
may be at risk if what you're saying is true.


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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/20/2010 9:50 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
> 
>> Frog wrote:
>>> By accounts I am referring to sites similar to the following (the
>>> three that I currently have on my system):
>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>>> mozilla.support.seamonkey
>>> news.verizon.net
>> 
>> Fine. Those are news group server accounts.
> 
> No, the first two are newsgroups.

Uggg. Of course, you're correct. I looked at the last one and
"imagined" they were all news group accounts :(
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Phillip Jones]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:

No the way I do a major release difference say 1 to 2 is I remove the
application to trash (don't empty as yet) then install the new version .


Good, just wanted to make sure your problem isn't there.


So on a Mac you *can* actually
run several versions of the same Application at the same time.


Any platform can do that with Mozilla applications. It's a misbelief
that Mac is superior to anything else, a common one with people caught
in Apple's golden cage, though.

Still, we'd love links to or IDs of your crash reports so we can
investigate what's actually up there.

Robert Kaiser
By the way there were 4-6 other I cleared. I realized I should have left 
them.
I Sm 1 .x it was rare for me to have a Crash. I have for a Period 
disabled extension, and Tried for a time in safe mode.  I have the 
latest versions of extensions and in fact I have an extension that 
determines whether extension cause crashes. It's yet to find out if 
extensions cause crashes except for the last two reported.


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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Phillip Jones]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:

No the way I do a major release difference say 1 to 2 is I remove the
application to trash (don't empty as yet) then install the new version .


Good, just wanted to make sure your problem isn't there.


So on a Mac you *can* actually
run several versions of the same Application at the same time.


Any platform can do that with Mozilla applications. It's a misbelief
that Mac is superior to anything else, a common one with people caught
in Apple's golden cage, though.

Still, we'd love links to or IDs of your crash reports so we can
investigate what's actually up there.

Robert Kaiser


not saying one or the other is superior . Just been told on these groups 
and others year after year after year that windows can't have two 
different versions (example SM1, SM2) on the same computer and have them 
run at the same time because of registry problems. On Mac as long as the 
application is named different you can run two or more versions on same 
computer because each generate support directories and files for each 
individual application taking into consideration the actual version.


Now whether this is true or not I can't say. all I know is I have been 
reading for as long as windows has been around.


have you go an email address you can send me to my email address and I 
will make a screen shot of the about Crashes.  and send to you two most 
recent were caused by an older version of Flash and my trying to view a 
page some one on this group sent that said wouldn't show right it was 
about a car dealership.

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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Mark Hansen wrote:

> Frog wrote:
>> By accounts I am referring to sites similar to the following (the
>> three that I currently have on my system):
>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>> mozilla.support.seamonkey
>> news.verizon.net
> 
> Fine. Those are news group server accounts.

No, the first two are newsgroups. The third, the verizon server, was
discontinued/service cut off in 2009.

> Perhaps they need authentication or a different port number, etc. Are
> you sure that "news.verizon.net" even exists?

"She's dead, Jim."

Please see my post from 7 hours earler.

> your IPS's [ISP's]

>From your other post:
> However, it seems to be going by the wayside, and many new "news"
> sites are popping up using a web-based interface.

E!  Web forums!   ;-)

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

[cmcadams]

John Klein wrote:

I am a copywriter with no Internet technology backround, and I need a way to
create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list
owners.  Their instructions say that the email message must be in pure HTML
code, no style sheets  or templates.

Can I use SeaMonkey to create these HTML email messages?  If so, could
someone point me in the right direction to get started.  Thanks.


John Klein
Klein Direct  -  Marketing Lists&  Direct Marketing Consulting
Tel  216-295-0545
Fax  216-751-3675
Cell 216-401-6265
jkl...@jklein.com
3329 Clayton Blvd.
Cleveland, OH  44120-3343


I won't pretend to understand the specifics of how you intend to distribute your 
emails, but to compose in HTML one opens Seamonkey email, holds down the Shift key, 
and clicks on Compose.


Mail's HTML capabilities are a subset of what's in Composer. Send yourself a sample 
HTML email, press Ctrl+U to view the message source, see if it meets requirements.


Craig
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Paul]

Frog wrote:


On 3/19/2010 4:44 PM, Frog wrote:
I am currently subscribed to three accounts (established when I 
purchased my computer).  I would like to subscribe to others such 
groups like genealogy, bird watching, traveling, etc,  I don't know 
how to access a complete listing of all possible groups that one can 
subscribe to.


By accounts I am referring to sites similar to the following (the three 
that I currently have on my system):

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
mozilla.support.seamonkey
news.verizon.net


Verizon does not have news groups.
mozilla is limited to mozilla subjects (mostly)
microsoft is limited to MS subjects (mostly)

There are over 100,000 news groups but your
news service has to carry those groups.
If you want to participate, you will have to
find free or open news servers
or pay for news server access.
Put this into Google:  newsgroups
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/19/2010 10:05 PM, Frog wrote:
> 
> I understand about subscribing to other Mozilla newsgroups listed under 
> the Mozilla account on my system.  I also have an account on my system 
> for Microsoft.  Lets say that I wanted to establish an account for 
> genealogy--where do I find server addresses for this subject?
> 
> I made a quick review of the two web sites you referenced above. Because 
> of the time (1 AM), I will explore both sites in more depth 
> tomorrow--I'm about to go to sleep.
> 
> Frog
>> 

I much prefer the news reader interface for reading news groups (such
as the reader provided by SeaMonkey). However, it seems to be going by
the wayside, and many new "news" sites are popping up using a web-based
interface.

By the way, my ISP provides a fairly complete list of usenet news groups
in their news server, and I found several "alt.birdwatching." groups.

Perhaps you just need to get a real general-purpose news server, as
Daniel suggests.

Good luck.
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/19/2010 9:51 PM, Frog wrote:
> Thank for the help Mark.  It's good to hear from you again.
> 
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> You're using terminology which I don't completely understand, so my
>> help will be a guess at what you actually mean. I hope this is helpful...
>> 
>> On 3/19/2010 4:44 PM, Frog wrote:
>>> I am currently subscribed to three accounts (established when I 
>>> purchased my computer).  I would like to subscribe to others such groups 
>>> like genealogy, bird watching, traveling, etc,  I don't know how to 
>>> access a complete listing of all possible groups that one can subscribe to.
>> 
>> I don't know what you mean by Accounts here. Do you mean e-mail accounts?
>> ISP accounts? Perhaps if you could provide us the names of these accounts,
>> it will become clearer.
> 
> By accounts I am referring to sites similar to the following (the three 
> that I currently have on my system):
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
> mozilla.support.seamonkey
> news.verizon.net

Fine. Those are news group server accounts.

> I have found the Microsoft and Mozilla groups to be a great place to 
> learn things about my computer and an even greater place find help when 
> I don't know how to solve a problem.  The news.verizon.net is, however, 
> a mystery--Verizon is my ISP.  When looking at the SeaMonkey mail window 
> I do the following:  Click "Go">I click news.verison.net in the drop 
> down window that appears>a window titled "Subscription" opens and it 
> appears that my computer is attempting to connect to Verizon.  After a 
> short time, a new window opens with the following comment--Connection to 
> server news.verizon.net timed out.  The subscription window does not 
> list any news groups that I can subscribe to.

It sounds like your news group account is not set up properly. You should
check with the IPS to see what you should be using. To set the account
properties, go to Edit -> Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings, then navigate
in the left-hand tree view to news.verizon.net. The pages associated
with that entry provide all the configuration.

Perhaps they need authentication or a different port number, etc. Are
you sure that "news.verizon.net" even exists?

You should be able to browse to your IPS's support page and get help
on setting up the news group account. Note that they won't provide
instructions for SeaMonkey, but the configuration "items" will be
basically the same as, for example, Firefox (host name, port, etc.)

> 
> I was thinking that there must be thousands, if not millions, of such 
> sites on the Internet.  I thought maybe there would be ones for 
> genealogy--bird watching--travel, etc.  As  I have likely stated on this 
> group before, I am retired and attempting to keep my mind busy learning 
> new things.

Each news server (like news.verizon.net or news.mozilla.org) will have it's
own set of news groups. The Mozilla server will have Mozilla-specific
groups only. However, most news servers carry most of the usenet groups
(groups on just about every topic you can imagine). There may be news
servers (notice I said "servers") which are dedicated to bird watching,
but I'm not aware of any.

> 
> I hope this clarifies what I was referring to when I used "Accounts" in 
> my first message.  I used accounts simply because each of the three 
> accounts listed above are included under Edit>Mail & Newsgroups Account 
> settings... on the SeaMonkey mail window.  I called them accounts based 
> on this information.

They are accounts. More specifically, they are news group accounts. As
there are other types of accounts, if you just say "accounts" we won't
know which type of account you're talking about. :)
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Robert Kaiser]

Benoit Renard schrieb:

As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes
one think that support has been dropped, and that's it.


And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all 
targets.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Robert Kaiser]

Phillip Jones schrieb:

No the way I do a major release difference say 1 to 2 is I remove the
application to trash (don't empty as yet) then install the new version .


Good, just wanted to make sure your problem isn't there.


So on a Mac you *can* actually
run several versions of the same Application at the same time.


Any platform can do that with Mozilla applications. It's a misbelief 
that Mac is superior to anything else, a common one with people caught 
in Apple's golden cage, though.


Still, we'd love links to or IDs of your crash reports so we can 
investigate what's actually up there.


Robert Kaiser
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Creating HTML email messages

[John Klein]

I am a copywriter with no Internet technology backround, and I need a way to
create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list
owners.  Their instructions say that the email message must be in pure HTML
code, no style sheets  or templates.
 
Can I use SeaMonkey to create these HTML email messages?  If so, could
someone point me in the right direction to get started.  Thanks.
 

John Klein
Klein Direct  -  Marketing Lists & Direct Marketing Consulting
Tel  216-295-0545
Fax  216-751-3675
Cell 216-401-6265
jkl...@jklein.com
3329 Clayton Blvd.
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Phillip Jones]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:

i.x use to use Full Circle Crash reporter.


We never shipped the Fullcircle Talkback crash reporter, as we were
never allowed to ship this proprietary product. All 1.x releases came
_without_ any crash reporter tool.

Robert Kaiser
all I know is it was in the first version and it kept crashing SM 1. 
and I had to remove it from Mozilla when I was using it. There was an 
actual folder for it in the the Profile Folder.


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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Phillip Jones]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Phillip Jones schrieb:

I've had twenty some crashes since I first loaded 2.0. gold. and I've
had several Hangs as well. I had a few the first version of 1.x but it
was found to be the Full circle Crash Reporter causing the problem.


We never shipped that crash reporter with any SeaMonkey-branded release
as we were not allowed to use it, the license of that proprietary
product not being usable for volunteer community projects. I guess you
had it left over from a Mozilla suite release which you just paved a
SeaMonkey over, and that surely could cause problems.


I'm wondering if the crash reporter is causing the crashes in SM2.


Most probably not, but if you paved 2.0 over a 1.x installation, I
wonder that it runs at all. If you didn't, we surely know that e.g.
Flash is causing crashes that take SeaMonkey with them, and we are
fixing some crashes with every 2.0.x release, 2.0.4 again has a number
of such fixes.
Could you please point us to (the IDs of) a few of your most recent
crash reports from SM2? It probably would make sense to take a look at
them and find out what is the cause there.

Robert Kaiser


No the way I do a major release difference say 1 to 2 is I remove the 
application to trash (don't empty as yet) then install the new version . 
when I get the new version working I then empty Trash. (I use a mac) 
Then if I want to keep the old one around I rename the old version to 
say SeaMonkey1 and move it back to applications. On a Mac moving an 
application to Trash forces a clean install of the application component 
to the applications Directory. If you leave in place it just copies over 
top. Which you never ever want to do on a new install. If a completely 
new version then a new application Support Item is created and 
preference and plist files are created. So on a Mac you *can* actually 
run several versions of the same Application at the same time.


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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Benoit Renard]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the
last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support.
A better subject would have been: "SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of
line for 1.x".



No, 1.1.19 is the most insignificant part of the announcement, even 
though it's the reason why we're timing it to be right now.


That's irrelevant. As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes 
one think that support has been dropped, and that's it. Users who choose 
to stay with 1.1.x will not know that they can get 1.1.19 to be as 
secure as possible while staying with 1.1.x, unless they read to the 
very bottom of what is a long message.


I wouldn't dare to make the release of a version the major point of an 
announcement if it's known to have security vulnerabilities right from 
the first second it's released (like websites being able to request and 
get your first saved password).


It wouldn't be /the/ major point, it would be /a/ major point.
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Re: Plug-in

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Uninstalled it and installed it for the forth time, did nothing 
different and all of a sudden I have the icon in the lower right bar.


Weird!
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Re: New mail accounts created in "wrong" location

[Monica]

Bill Davidsen wrote:

EnorMouse wrote:

EnorMouse wrote:

Monica wrote:

EnorMouse wrote:

Monica wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Monica wrote:


I am using SM 2.0.3. Windows XP pro sp3.

After one of the last 2-3 SM updates (can´t remember exactly which
one) the following happens when I create a new mail account; SM for
some reason puts it in a "wrong" location on my hard drive.

Before the update it put all my mail accounts in C:\Documents and
Settings\Administratör\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\s0r5u2w5.slt\Mail\

After the update it puts it in a place that actually doesn´t really
exist on my hard drive (SM creates it)
C:\Program\Netscape\Users\Netscape 7.1\tng6b77b.slt\Mail\

I don´t have Netscape 7.1 on my computer! I have even tried to
delete
the mail accounts that have been placed there, and then deleted the
created Netscape folder/subfolders from under Program and then
tried
to create the mail accounts again to get them in the right
location.
It does not work, SM continues to create that particular path to
put
all my new mail accounts in.

Does anyone have a clue as to what could be going on here?


Unless you are creating them in a new profile, no. If these are
going in
a new profile, maybe. When creating a new profile you can tune where
things are put (I'm not running Windows so i won't assume it's
identical
to Linux). If you ever had Netscape on the machine there might be
left-over cruft in the registry or other control location which
has that
string and directory.

You can try creating another new profile and see if it offers to
put it
in NetScape... Quick detective work.


No I´m not creating them in a new profile. However, in profile
manager I
can see a profile called "default" which I do not use, nor have I
ever
created it.

I tried the trick you wrote about above, to create a new profile.
It did
not offer to put the new profile in Netscape, but under the same
path as
my "old" ones; in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\

Could there be something strange going on with that "default" profile
(which SM must have created when I upgraded), even though I don´t
use it?


Like Bill, I have no idea what SM is up to and have not added any
accounts lately.

As the sole user of my computer, I dislike the habit of programs to
store their data in My Documents, or alongside the program files or in
the Documents and Settings folders. I actually have a separate
drive for
data and try to point all of my programs to appropriate folders on it.
This means that I can take separate backups of my programs and my data
(including all my email files).

Anyway, to fix your existing problem, copy the account folder to where
you want it to be. Go into SM and the Account Settings and at the
bottom
of the Server Settings page you will see a box with the file location
in. Change this to the new location and shut down SM.

Rename or move to somewhere safe the old account folder - you will not
be able to do this with any part of SM running as it will have
locks on it.

Fire back up SM and it should then find the account files in their new
location. When you are happy that it is working correctly, you can
delete the old account folder and files.

Hope that this helps.


Thank you EnorMouse, I did exactly what you wrote and it seems to
work so far!

However, when I tried to create another new mail account...sure
enough it went straight into the "wrong" (Netscape) location! Is
there anything I can delete somewhere to get rid of that Netscape
path for good, and so that SM doesn´t create it again even after I
have deleted it?

And how about that extra profile "default" which I never
created...should I just delete that?

I do have to be slightly careful because I have everything pointed at
E:\Mail & Newsgroups\SeaMonkey so things might not work quite the
same way. I have just found out that clicking on the Profile Manager
short-cut in my SeaMonkey menu just opens a copy of SM - there again
I am not 100% sure that I bothered to install it, as I only work with
my own single profile.

Anyway, getting back to what I do feel happy to comment on, yes the
trick of moving the folders is a one off and has to be done for every
account. When I last set up a new account SM stuck it in my Documents
& Settings folder and I had to go through the same procedure again.
If you have a number of accounts to set up, you can set them all up
first and then run through the same procedure for each of them in one
go.

Using Explorer, I know that the only location of my Profiles folder
is also under E:\Mail & Newsgroups\SeaMonkey and I have a single
folder under it with my own name on it. I do not have a second folder
called 'Default'. It would seem that so long as you can confirm that
you have an active profile sub-folder in your own name, you do not
need the Default one as well. You might like to check out the actual
files before deciding to delete the default profile.

I have had a quick run t

Re: Plug-in

[Don B]

JD wrote:




Not sure why it wasn't checked for me but checking it did get the icon
to appear. Hopefully Don B will let us know if it worked for him.

It's a pretty cool little plug-in.



BTW: If you don't already have it bugmenot is another slick plug-in

Don
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Re: Plug-in

[Don B]

JD wrote:

Don B wrote:

BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 3/19/2010 4:24 PM, Don B typed the following:

I am using SeaMonkey 2.0.3 and there is a plug-in called "video
downloadhelper" which is supposed to work with it. I can't get the icon
to show up on any of the task bars. When you are on a site that the
plug-in will work with the icon is supposed to animate. I think the
instructions they wrote to get the icon to show up by doing it manually
must be for Firefox because the description on how to do it doesn't
jive
with SeaMonkey. Has anyone got this to work with SeaMonkey?

I also installed it in Firefox and everything worked fine.


Installed in SM 2.0.3 with no problems. Followed instructions.
There should be a small 3-ball icon in the bottom bar of the SM window.
when there is something on interest on the page the icon will be colored
and rotating. click on it or the box next to it. Works fine.

Did everything go automatically for you or did you have to manually drag
and drop the icon? Are you referring to the bottom bar of the ones on
the top of the screen or the bar at the bottom of the screen? I'm not
sure if I have all of the bars showing that I should, maybe I have some
settings wrong. I have three bars on the top and one at the bottom.

I have installed it three times and still no icon. When I installed it
in Firefox everything was automatic and went real smooth.


I installed it and had the same problem. Click on Tools, DownloadHelper,
Preferences and tick Show in status bar. Then it will show up on the
bottom toolbar.


All of my boxes are checked by default. Where this whole thing gets 
strange is, even though I have no icon when I went to utube and just 
picked any old video, the stationary icon appeared alongside of the 
video along with the little down arrow. If I click the icon it 
immediately starts a download. If I click the little arrow it opens a 
menu with several options I can choose from.


Even though it installed OK in Firefox I'm wondering if it would be an 
operating system issue. I am running XP Pro with SP2

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Re: New mail accounts created in "wrong" location

[Monica]

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Monica wrote:


I am using SM 2.0.3. Windows XP pro sp3.

After one of the last 2-3 SM updates (can´t remember exactly which
one) the following happens when I create a new mail account; SM for
some reason puts it in a "wrong" location on my hard drive.

Before the update it put all my mail accounts in C:\Documents and
Settings\Administratör\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\s0r5u2w5.slt\Mail\

After the update it puts it in a place that actually doesn´t really
exist on my hard drive (SM creates it)
C:\Program\Netscape\Users\Netscape 7.1\tng6b77b.slt\Mail\

I don´t have Netscape 7.1 on my computer! I have even tried to delete
the mail accounts that have been placed there, and then deleted the
created Netscape folder/subfolders from under Program and then tried
to create the mail accounts again to get them in the right location.
It does not work, SM continues to create that particular path to put
all my new mail accounts in.

Does anyone have a clue as to what could be going on here?


Unless you are creating them in a new profile, no. If these are going in
a new profile, maybe. When creating a new profile you can tune where
things are put (I'm not running Windows so i won't assume it's identical
to Linux). If you ever had Netscape on the machine there might be
left-over cruft in the registry or other control location which has that
string and directory.

You can try creating another new profile and see if it offers to put it
in NetScape... Quick detective work.


No I´m not creating them in a new profile. However, in profile manager I
can see a profile called "default" which I do not use, nor have I ever
created it.

I tried the trick you wrote about above, to create a new profile. It did
not offer to put the new profile in Netscape, but under the same path as
my "old" ones; in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\

Could there be something strange going on with that "default" profile
(which SM must have created when I upgraded), even though I don´t use it?


Monica have a look at Edit->Mail&Newsgroup Account Settings, select
"Server Settings" of your Mail Account and at the bottom of that Screen
it shows the location of your Local Directory. Is this set to your real
profile location or to the imaginary Netscape location??

Daniel

Sorry that I haven´t replied until now but I´ve been away.

All my current Mail Accounts are (now) set to my real profile location. 
But, as soon as I try and create a new mail account it gets set to the 
"imaginary Netscape location"!!!

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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....

[Robert Kaiser]

Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb:

* Firefox from a relevant build at:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/


This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it 
may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Robert Kaiser]

Phillip Jones schrieb:

i.x use to use Full Circle Crash reporter.


We never shipped the Fullcircle Talkback crash reporter, as we were 
never allowed to ship this proprietary product. All 1.x releases came 
_without_ any crash reporter tool.


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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Robert Kaiser]

Phillip Jones schrieb:

I've had twenty some crashes since I first loaded 2.0. gold. and I've
had several Hangs as well. I had a few the first version of 1.x but it
was found to be the Full circle Crash Reporter causing the problem.


We never shipped that crash reporter with any SeaMonkey-branded release 
as we were not allowed to use it, the license of that proprietary 
product not being usable for volunteer community projects. I guess you 
had it left over from a Mozilla suite release which you just paved a 
SeaMonkey over, and that surely could cause problems.



I'm wondering if the crash reporter is causing the crashes in SM2.


Most probably not, but if you paved 2.0 over a 1.x installation, I 
wonder that it runs at all. If you didn't, we surely know that e.g. 
Flash is causing crashes that take SeaMonkey with them, and we are 
fixing some crashes with every 2.0.x release, 2.0.4 again has a number 
of such fixes.
Could you please point us to (the IDs of) a few of your most recent 
crash reports from SM2? It probably would make sense to take a look at 
them and find out what is the cause there.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Robert Kaiser]

Leonidas Jones schrieb:

Robert, since the build was built on Tiger, could there be something
about the version available for download that is different?


I did build it with the same machine and the exact same scripts as 
1.1.18, so if there is any difference, it must be in the actual code 
changes.


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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Daniel]

Frog wrote:

Thanks again JAS for helping me.  It seems that you along with Mark came
to my aid only a few days ago.

JAS wrote:

Frog wrote:

I am currently subscribed to three accounts (established when I
purchased my computer). I would like to subscribe to others such
groups like genealogy, bird watching, traveling, etc, I don't know
how to access a complete listing of all possible groups that one can
subscribe to.

When I click File (on the SeaMonkey Mail page)>open Subscribe--I can
only see the three Accounts that are currently subscribed to on my
system. Should I be able to (somehow) access the complete listing
from this window?

Is there some place on the web that will help me with this subject?

Also, I think I will have to establish a new entry in the Mail &
Newsgroups Account Settings for each group I subscribe to--is that
correct?

I know that the answers to my questions are located someplace on the
Internet--but where?

Thanks for any information sent my way on this subject.

Windows XP Pro SP3 -- both SeaMonkey 1.1.18 and 2.0.3

Frog

If you mean the different accounts in news.mozilla.org you can left
click on the Bold name and select "manage subscriptions and then click
on mozilla to see what they have. If you want microsoft sites go to
edit- mail and newsgroups-add new news account- put msnews.microsoft.com
port 119 . You might also look here
http://www.annexcafe.com/ or here http://shrunklink.com/eiay


I understand about subscribing to other Mozilla newsgroups listed under
the Mozilla account on my system. I also have an account on my system
for Microsoft. Lets say that I wanted to establish an account for
genealogy--where do I find server addresses for this subject?

I made a quick review of the two web sites you referenced above. Because
of the time (1 AM), I will explore both sites in more depth
tomorrow--I'm about to go to sleep.

Frog




1 AM and you're off to bed.such lack of dedication!!

My usernet server is news.teranews.com, go to www.teranews.com first to 
set  up your account, I think they then e-mail you the password. Note 
that your user name for the account has to include your server name, 
i.e. "f...@pond.com", but your real address!


Daniel
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Frog wrote:

> By accounts I am referring to sites similar to the following (the
> three that I currently have on my system):

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general<-- newsgroup
> mozilla.support.seamonkey <-- newsgroup
> news.verizon.net  <-- news *SERVER*

> .. The news.verizon.net is, however, a mystery--Verizon is my ISP.
> When looking at the SeaMonkey mail window I do the following:  Click
> "Go"> I click news.verison.net [SIC] in the drop down window that
> appears>a window titled "Subscription" opens and it appears that my
> computer is attempting to connect to Verizon.  After a short time, a
> new window opens with the following comment--Connection to server
> news.verizon.net timed out.  The subscription window does not list
> any news groups that I can subscribe to.

You are getting a timeout because Verizon *killed* NNTP news service for
its subscribers last year. You can blame New York State Attorney General
Andrew Cuomo [1] for that. Other major ISPs did as well, notably AT&T.

> I was thinking that there must be thousands, if not millions, of such
> sites on the Internet.  I thought maybe there would be ones for
> genealogy--bird watching--travel, etc.  As  I have likely stated on
> this group before, I am retired and attempting to keep my mind busy
> learning new things.

Thousands of newsgroups, yes (not millions). And, to clarify, they are
not "sites", they are "Usenet Newsgroups." Not the WWW.

> OK.  I think I understand.  Once I have a Mozilla account established
> on my system--I can have any number of Mozilla subscriptions under
> this Mozilla account.

You've found how to subscribe to the Mozilla news server. Now you'll
want to add a general server for the rest. Have a look at the free
Eternal September server. Register from here:
http://www.eternal-september.org/

[1. Perish the thought - he's probably going to be our *governor* next
year.  ]

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   -bts
   -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
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Re: SM 2.0.3 cannot create new mail account

[Miroslav Kolar]

Martin F. wrote:

Miroslav Kolar schrieb:

OK, the new account is finally working OK - it didn't work initially,
because I somehow added for its server the following line:
user_pref("mail.server.server10.valid", false);
After removing it, everything works perfectly, mail is coming, I can
change all the preferences from "mail & New settings"

But my main question remains: why am I not offered by "mail & New
settings" the choice between mail and newsgroup account???


because of valid = false.
have a look in about:config to see which accounts are existing and which
are not. Remove all necessary entries and set all valid ones NOT to
false. Afterwards the wizard should work fine again.
regards

Martin


Thanks. That helped. I had one more valid = false setting. Removed it, and the 
wizard works.
As mentioned in the bug report pointed by S., it would be helpful to get a clue 
what to do in such a case: the wizard could display an advise roughly as you 
gave it about.

Miro
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