Re: location of email signature
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 04 May 2011 02:18:39 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: Still, outside of a tech-support context, pruning is a good practice regardless of your other choices. There's generally no need to retain the entire thread in every message, it just becomes needless clutter. Such style of communication is not limited to tech-support, but with other businesses, also. I've ever dreamed of Mozilla implementing additional option "Automatically attach the original message when replying" with appropriate attachment name (e.g. "Original Message"). This way one could strip/prune most of the inline quotes and place his/her reply bellow the context, while keeping the original, and possibly all previous messages from the thread, attached for reference (visible only when "Display Attachments Inline" is selected, or when opened in a separate window). Is anyone aware of such enhancement request already filled in Bugzilla? I certainly agree with Paul that pruning makes sense, at least theoretically. For me, however, it is impractical. 90+% of my email is work-related, if I were to prune every email I reply to, and somehow leave some sort of stub that would be informative, I would spend an hour or more a day doing that. I don't have the time for that. I realize that bottom-posting is "the rule" in a lot of places. However, in the work newsgroups and emails I get, top-posting is the standard, right or wrong. Also, I know for a fact that not everyone I correspond with uses Mozilla products, the majority use Outlook. In addition, a lot of people don't thread their emails, so they may (or may not) need the entire chain of posts. Not to mention the fact that it is common for a thread to change directions in the middle; yes, it drives me crazy, but it happens. So, whether it is the majority or not, top-posting is what I have to do. Stanimir's proposal for an additional option makes sense, as long as it is set up so the user has options on how to implement it. Again, though, I do not know if Outlook has similar capabilities, I do not and never will use Outlook, but whatever I send needs to be compatible for those users. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up AT&T dial up email
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: lawi...@att.net wrote: ==snipped== So if you connect with Verizon and try to send through Yahoo's SMTP server, you'll get rejected. In that case, the workaround is to use someone else's (e.g., Verizon's) SMTP server to send your Yahoo mail. So I have several SMTP server entries, and if necessary when traveling, I tell a problem account to use a different one from the list. My ISP is Verizon and I have no problem connecting using the Yahoo SMTP. Good for you. My experience a couple of months ago (before I closed my Yahoo account for unrelated reasons) was as I described. I also found that Verizon uses port 25 blocking, so when I visited Verizon-based relatives, I couldn't send mail from any account until I switched to port 587. Here, too, YMMV. Agree. I had to change to port 587. My main reason for mentioning these things is to offer alternative scenarios that might help resolve the OP's issue. I know the whole world is not uniform and homogeneous. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up AT&T dial up email
Arnie Goetchius wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: lawi...@att.net wrote: ==snipped== So if you connect with Verizon and try to send through Yahoo's SMTP server, you'll get rejected. In that case, the workaround is to use someone else's (e.g., Verizon's) SMTP server to send your Yahoo mail. So I have several SMTP server entries, and if necessary when traveling, I tell a problem account to use a different one from the list. My ISP is Verizon and I have no problem connecting using the Yahoo SMTP. Good for you. My experience a couple of months ago (before I closed my Yahoo account for unrelated reasons) was as I described. I also found that Verizon uses port 25 blocking, so when I visited Verizon-based relatives, I couldn't send mail from any account until I switched to port 587. Here, too, YMMV. My main reason for mentioning these things is to offer alternative scenarios that might help resolve the OP's issue. I know the whole world is not uniform and homogeneous. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot install Adobe Acrobat Reader
Interviewed by CNN on 05/05/2011 06:33, Ray_Net told the world: > Did you say that i just need to copy: > C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\Browser\nppdf32.dll > to the directory: > C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\ > ? Yes. My setup is slightly different because I'm on a 64-bit machine with Adobe Reader X, but you got the gist of it. The Adobe installer knows about Firefox, but it doesn't know about Seamonkey. So you have to copy the plugin manually. Alternatively, if you have Firefox installed, you can copy the plugin (and any other plugins you may be interested on) from the Firefox plugin folder. QuickTime plugins, for instance, can be recognized by the file names beginning with "npqt". You may notice that not all plugins are actually present in the plugin folder -- Java and Flash come to mind. That's because those are discovered by means of a registry entry. You don't need to worry about them, both Firefox and Seamonkey find the plugin by themselves. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my TARDIS. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.14 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SOLVED - Re: Mail can't connect to Gmail
On May 4, 7:51 pm, MCBastos wrote: > Interviewed by CNN on 04/05/2011 22:37, Whosoever told the world: > > > By the way, that was Thunderbird 3.0.11 that connects to Gmail/IMAP > > just fine. Thunderbird 3.1.9 seems to have the same problem. > > Check encryption settings. Older versions of Mozilla e-mail clients used > to fall back to "no encryption" if the server does not support it. Newer > versions DO NOT do it -- I guess it's part of some sort of security > tightening. > > Bottom line, if you are trying some encryption scheme that Gmail does > not support, it may work in the old versions but won't work in the new > versions. I remember having to do a bit of a trial-and-error with the > settings until I figured out. > > These are the settings I use: > > Username: @gmail.com > IMAP: imap.gmail.com - SSL (port 993) > POP: pop.gmail.com - SSL (port 995) > > smtp: smtp.gmail.com - SSL (port 465) or TLS/STARTTLS (port 587) - user > authentication needed > > -- > MCBastos > > This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized > use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. > > -=-=- > ... Sent from my Mont Blanc. > *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.14 * > Get it athttp://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla Well, Google must have been doing some maintenance or something yesterday, because its working today. Also, an interesting thing I learned today, is that while setting up a new install of Thunderbird, it automatically detected Gmail's imap server as imap.googlemail.com. I don't know if that a new server, or an old one. It works, so I'm leaving it alone for now. Also, Seamonkey Mail also works today with imap.gmail.com. Lesson learned: always wait a few days, before raising a stir. Cheers, Van ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot install Adobe Acrobat Reader
Ray_Net wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: When i try to install adobe reader from the web ( http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/ ), it ends with inside SM the message: "Adobe DLM (powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.102 could not be installed because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.10." What could i do ? Install Foxit Reader instead. Fully SM compatible and much lighter too. www.foxitsoftware.com Too late i already succed with IE8 (i am in windows7) - The remaining problem is that my SM is now without the Adobe plug-in. Ray, I have found that sometimes during the installation of an up-grade plug-in the older version is "disabled" in SM. When the newer version is installed it fails to enable SM for the plug-in. Check in SM Mail, or Browser Tools/Add-On Manager and see if your Adobe Reader version is enabled. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up AT&T dial up email
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: lawi...@att.net wrote: ==snipped== So if you connect with Verizon and try to send through Yahoo's SMTP server, you'll get rejected. In that case, the workaround is to use someone else's (e.g., Verizon's) SMTP server to send your Yahoo mail. So I have several SMTP server entries, and if necessary when traveling, I tell a problem account to use a different one from the list. My ISP is Verizon and I have no problem connecting using the Yahoo SMTP. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot install Adobe Acrobat Reader
Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 04/05/2011 11:16, Ray_Net told the world: S. Beaulieu wrote: When i try to install adobe reader from the web ( http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/ ), it ends with inside SM the message: "Adobe DLM (powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.102 could not be installed because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.10." What could i do ? Did you say that i just need to copy: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\Browser\nppdf32.dll to the directory: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\ ? If you have firefox and seamonkey both installed, you can copy anything in the firefox plugin folder to the seamonkey plugin folder. I recently did this when (my mind went blank) either the quicktime or some other plugin would not install to seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot install Adobe Acrobat Reader
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 04/05/2011 11:16, Ray_Net told the world: S. Beaulieu wrote: When i try to install adobe reader from the web ( http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/ ), it ends with inside SM the message: "Adobe DLM (powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.102 could not be installed because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.10." What could i do ? Install Foxit Reader instead. Fully SM compatible and much lighter too. www.foxitsoftware.com Too late i already succed with IE8 (i am in windows7) - The remaining problem is that my SM is now without the Adobe plug-in. Just copy it from: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\Browser\nppdf32.dll to your Seamonkey plugins browser. (Funny... I don't remember updating the plugin by hand, and yet in my computer all the copies have the same file date... I guess that Adobe Reader "learns" where the copies of the plugin should reside) As for the download itself... yes, it is very annoying that Adobe foists its own download manager on users. But strangely, this does *not* happen to me in Seamonkey, only in Firefox -- I have no problem at all downloading Adobe Reader with DownThemAll. Am I right in guessing that you use a modified user-agent string, presenting Seamonkey as "Firefox?" I think they use browser-sniffing: if they see you as "Firefox," they foist the download manager. Seamonkey, however, is treated as "generic browser," and presented with a regular download link. Did you say that i just need to copy: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\Browser\nppdf32.dll to the directory: C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\ ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot install Adobe Acrobat Reader
S. Beaulieu wrote: Ray_Net a écrit : Too late i already succed with IE8 (i am in windows7) - The remaining problem is that my SM is now without the Adobe plug-in. Foxit also works in IE. For the moment, i have acrobat 9.4.4 installed with his plugin in IE9(...i upgraded yesterday by the µsoft auto-update). The .pdf assocation is for the "acrobat 9.4.4". I don't want to have two programs installed. The only problem is to have the plugin for SM - when i was under windowsXP, using IE i got the IE plugin, and when using SM i got the SM plugin directly from the adobe site Now adobe refuse to play with SM :-( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up AT&T dial up email
lawi...@att.net wrote: I've updated by SeaMonkey and can't send mail out. Of course AT&T doesn't support that and since I'm only using the email address I don't want to pay AT&T anymore money. Can someone point me to the right directions? From other posts in this thread, it seems your settings are correct. Perhaps it's an authentication issue. Try this: Tools | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords Click the "Show passwords" button (click "OK" when prompted) Scan the list for an entry smtp://smtp.att.yahoo.com and verify that the password is exactly correct (including upper and lower case, number 1 vs letter l, etc.). If not, delete the entry. The next time you try to send mail, you will be prompted for a password; make sure you enter it correctly (if you're not sure what it should be, look it up on a working computer or ask Yahoo tech support). BTW, some ISPs (as an antispam measure) require you to use their connection in order to have access to their SMTP (outgoing mail) server. So if you connect with Verizon and try to send through Yahoo's SMTP server, you'll get rejected. In that case, the workaround is to use someone else's (e.g., Verizon's) SMTP server to send your Yahoo mail. So I have several SMTP server entries, and if necessary when traveling, I tell a problem account to use a different one from the list. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
