Sudden CPU peaks
I'm using SM 2.3.3 on linux x86_64 (I am using the contributed 64 bit build). Sometimes, especially while surfing the Bookmarks menu, the CPU usage suddenly rises to 100%, and the computer gets therefore blocked. Then, after some 10-15 seconds, everything gets back to normal. I think this issue has already come out, but I can't find it, and it's not in the release notes, so I'll report that, at least for me, it's not solved yet. -- Francesco ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Ray_Net wrote: This is a line using SM newsgroup with Wingdings characters. This is a line using SM newsgroup with courier new characters. This is a line using SM newsgroup with Brush Script MT characters. As we can see SM is able to use and display the characters correctly for nearly all fonts, but refuse it to do with Wingdings. You may see it, Ray, others may not. I see three identical lines, with no variation in font whatsoever. What do you see on the next line ? [Using Symusic font]Testing, testing, testing ...[End Symusic] I see three different lines, exactly as Ray_Net described. Do you have your prefs set to force everything to your preferred font? Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts | ? Allow documents to use other fonts. Paul, I have the Allow documents to use other fonts. enabled..but all of the text above looks like a single font to me. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
taz043 wrote: Daniel wrote: taz043 wrote: dsavitsk wrote: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! Like dsavitsk, I think its about time for me to leave SeaMonkey after many years of happy surfing. I hate tab browsing and no matter what I uncheck in preferences I still have tabs and not the windows browsing I prefer. Been like this since the last couple of updates. I do thank all the folks, past and present that have labored on SeaMonkey since its beginning. Have you been told to check Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior to set it as you require especially the top section dealing with Links? Thanks you a thousand times. I'd been playing with the tabbed browsing only, checking and unchecking everything until I was totally confused. I guess I know just enough be be dangerous.. Or, if you're having a problem with SeaMonkey, you know where to ask your question.not just say you've had a gut full and are leaving to try something else! Glad I could be of help. (Still cannot see what the problem is with using tabs, in any case, but to each their own!!) (If I know more than you, does that mean I am more dangerous than you??) -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
Hi everyone, I am new to this newsgroup, so please be patient with me, inittially. ;) My question has been asked several times in other forums and mailing lists, as it seems, certainly, but a quick web research didn't give any useful answers within the last 12 or 14 months. Of course, should have overlooked something, could you, please, point me to the relevant stuff? Are there plans, that Seamonkey Mail will support other mail storage formats than mbox? Examples would be mh or maildir. Seamonkey is such a powerful and modern suite of tools and applications, that it's hard to understand and accept, that only mbox is supported, as of now. I have had trouble with the index files needed to resemble pseudo-hierarchies of mail folders, and maybe other things. Also, incremental backups take much more time than justified, because if one message changes or is added to the mbox file, the file is considered new, and backed up completely every time. Finally, Seamonkey Mail slows down, when the mbox files grow (I admit: files must be REAL big, before the speed penalty becomes evident). So I think, support for more modern mail formats would definitely have significant benefits for many of us. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
On 9/9/11 8:47 AM, Alex Baer wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to this newsgroup, so please be patient with me, inittially. ;) My question has been asked several times in other forums and mailing lists, as it seems, certainly, but a quick web research didn't give any useful answers within the last 12 or 14 months. Of course, should have overlooked something, could you, please, point me to the relevant stuff? Are there plans, that Seamonkey Mail will support other mail storage formats than mbox? Examples would be mh or maildir. Seamonkey is such a powerful and modern suite of tools and applications, that it's hard to understand and accept, that only mbox is supported, as of now. I have had trouble with the index files needed to resemble pseudo-hierarchies of mail folders, and maybe other things. Also, incremental backups take much more time than justified, because if one message changes or is added to the mbox file, the file is considered new, and backed up completely every time. Finally, Seamonkey Mail slows down, when the mbox files grow (I admit: files must be REAL big, before the speed penalty becomes evident). So I think, support for more modern mail formats would definitely have significant benefits for many of us. See bug #58308 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58308. Originally submitted 11 years ago, it seems there might actually be some slow progress in implementing this enhancement. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
David E. Ross wrote: On 9/9/11 8:47 AM, Alex Baer wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to this newsgroup, so please be patient with me, inittially. ;) My question has been asked several times in other forums and mailing lists, as it seems, certainly, but a quick web research didn't give any useful answers within the last 12 or 14 months. Of course, should have overlooked something, could you, please, point me to the relevant stuff? Are there plans, that Seamonkey Mail will support other mail storage formats than mbox? Examples would be mh or maildir. Seamonkey is such a powerful and modern suite of tools and applications, that it's hard to understand and accept, that only mbox is supported, as of now. I have had trouble with the index files needed to resemble pseudo-hierarchies of mail folders, and maybe other things. Also, incremental backups take much more time than justified, because if one message changes or is added to the mbox file, the file is considered new, and backed up completely every time. Finally, Seamonkey Mail slows down, when the mbox files grow (I admit: files must be REAL big, before the speed penalty becomes evident). So I think, support for more modern mail formats would definitely have significant benefits for many of us. See bug #58308 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58308. Originally submitted 11 years ago, it seems there might actually be some slow progress in implementing this enhancement. Thanks for the quick response. I hope, the work goes on, on this, and I hope, it's possible to speed it up. Corrupted index files drove me nuts in the past, backups take inadequately long time, and once the size of mbox file exceeds a certain limit, all kinds of trouble start, from a slow-down of the whole mail client to inconsistencies caused by delays in writing back data. Prof. Bernstein seems to be a bit of a character, but maildir was a brilliant idea, I think. As an alternative, mh would also be ok. I cannot tell, what exactly is the difference between mh and maildir, or why the latter is often called the successor of the first one. Both follow the one file per mail approach, and neither one has ever caused me the problems I had with mbox and index files. Maybe, I should point this out: There's nothing wrong with mbox as such. In fact, it's the easiest format to create HTML pages for archiving mails and publishing mail archives. But in the Mozilla mail clients it's possible to create virtual folder hierarchies and sub- structures. And this is DANGEROUS with mbox. I have had no problems with only one level of hierarchy (i. e. flat structure) using mbox. So my request is actually: Either remove the capability to create folder structures, or make it reliable. I'd really like to use Seamonkey Mail, but at the moment I don't fully trust it, based it on experience from the past with mbox and index files. BTW: I am impressed about the bug tracking --- 11 years of history, nothing lost. More dependable than my own protein based memory, in any case. ;) Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
Alex Baer a écrit : But in the Mozilla mail clients it's possible to create virtual folder hierarchies and sub- structures. And this is DANGEROUS with mbox. I have had no problems with only one level of hierarchy (i. e. flat structure) using mbox. So my request is actually: Either remove the capability to create folder structures, or make it reliable. What kind of unreliability are you talking about? I'be been using the same mbox file (folders and all) since 1997, successively moving from various versions of Netscape to Thunderbird, then to SeaMonkey. I never had any sort of problem, corruption or otherwise. Of course, I compact my folders regularly and don't keep thousands of emails in my inbox (that's what the folders are for), so that might have something to do with it. From my experience (since I manage all my relatives' computers and they've gone through the same mbox evolution as I have), I've never seen any problems with that file format (unlike Outlook's notorious let's get automatically currupted once the file reaches X Mb problem, for example). S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sudden CPU peaks
Francesco Presel wrote: I'm using SM 2.3.3 on linux x86_64 (I am using the contributed 64 bit build). Sometimes, especially while surfing the Bookmarks menu, the CPU usage suddenly rises to 100%, and the computer gets therefore blocked. Then, after some 10-15 seconds, everything gets back to normal. I think this issue has already come out, but I can't find it, and it's not in the release notes, so I'll report that, at least for me, it's not solved yet. Ditto. XP SP3, 32-bit. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sudden CPU peaks
On 09/09/2011 09:53 AM, cmcadams wrote: Francesco Presel wrote: I'm using SM 2.3.3 on linux x86_64 (I am using the contributed 64 bit build). Sometimes, especially while surfing the Bookmarks menu, the CPU usage suddenly rises to 100%, and the computer gets therefore blocked. Then, after some 10-15 seconds, everything gets back to normal. I think this issue has already come out, but I can't find it, and it's not in the release notes, so I'll report that, at least for me, it's not solved yet. Ditto. XP SP3, 32-bit. I can't duplicate on linux 32bit. Checking in places.sqlite I have 4360 bookmark (yeah, it's time to do some house cleaning...). Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
S. Beaulieu wrote: Alex Baer a écrit : But in the Mozilla mail clients it's possible to create virtual folder hierarchies and sub- structures. And this is DANGEROUS with mbox. I have had no problems with only one level of hierarchy (i. e. flat structure) using mbox. So my request is actually: Either remove the capability to create folder structures, or make it reliable. What kind of unreliability are you talking about? I'be been using the same mbox file (folders and all) since 1997, successively moving from various versions of Netscape to Thunderbird, then to SeaMonkey. I never had any sort of problem, corruption or otherwise. Of course, I compact my folders regularly and don't keep thousands of emails in my inbox (that's what the folders are for), so that might have something to do with it. From my experience (since I manage all my relatives' computers and they've gone through the same mbox evolution as I have), I've never seen any problems with that file format (unlike Outlook's notorious let's get automatically currupted once the file reaches X Mb problem, for example). S. As I said, not the mbox format as such is the problem, but the functionality that is implemented in Mozilla mail clients, that stretch this flat file format to something it isn't supposed to be. Because the functionality is there, I used it, and created a multi- level hierarchy of folders, sub-folders and sub-sub-folders to organise my mail. This may or may not have been a great idea, but it became a huge problem, when after a crash the index files were damaged, and the program was unable to repair them, and all the structure information about the hierarchy of folders was lost. The result: Many mails had no meta data, anymore. That made it impossible to distinguish emails that were included in the last backup from new ones. Therefore I had to check them individually, manually comparing mails on my system with my backup. It took me many hours, to get it fixed. After a second crash with quite the same hassle, just with a lot less email messages being affected, I switched to KMail, and NEVER had such a problem again. As far as I can tell, this is for a big part not an achievement of KMail as such, but owed to the file format in which mails are stored. What is more, the pseudo-hierarchy can be resolved only by Mozilla clients. Other programs don't know what to do the index files. Now, opening an mbox file with another mail client, and then opening the file again with a Mozilla client may also cause index file corruption, in my experience. So this is a very fragile approach. As long, as there are index files simulating hierarchies, that are not really there, for virtual folders containing thousands of emails, this is a harmful functionality. Pseudo-hierarchies should not be supported in combination with mbox, IMHO, as this approach is bound to cause trouble --- it's only a question of time. And, BTW, a quick research of the web will tell you, that I am by far not the only one who experienced this sort of problem. I very much like Seamonkey, it's functionality, it's UI etc. But I need a more robust mail client. With maildir (or mh) support, Seamonkey Mail could be it, but I don't trust it, as long as it only supports mbox with index files (and again: the index files are the problem, actually, not mbox as such). Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:47:06 +0200, Alex Baer wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to this newsgroup, so please be patient with me, inittially. ;) My question has been asked several times in other forums and mailing lists, as it seems, certainly, but a quick web research didn't give any useful answers within the last 12 or 14 months. Of course, should have overlooked something, could you, please, point me to the relevant stuff? Are there plans, that Seamonkey Mail will support other mail storage formats than mbox? Examples would be mh or maildir. Yes. Some work is being done on pluggable mail stores Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
Alex Baer a écrit : This may or may not have been a great idea, but it became a huge problem, when after a crash the index files were damaged, and the program was unable to repair them, and all the structure information about the hierarchy of folders was lost. When you say index file, do you mean the .msf one associated to each folder and mailbox? The one that can be simply deleted because it will be automatically rebuilt on the next launch? S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Stéphane Grégoire wrote: Hi, Ray_Net a tapoté, le 08/09/2011 23:45: I very often get smileys from outlook users which display as J. And what should be showed in place of J? We need to get a good understanding on what is involved in using fonts on web pages and HTML mail. 1. On a web page, or HTML mail the font names we use must be installed on the viewers PC. 2. If you use a font name that is not installed on the viewers PC then the browser, mail reader will resort to the common font installed. 3. If you are on a private network an you know all the fonts installed on all the PCs on that network you can use all the fancy fonts available to you. 4. To work around these limitations you can insert the image of these fancy font characters using Insert Image. The simplest way to do this is to download Snaget screen capture. With SeaMonkey/Composer create a number of web pages, each page containing the different fancy font characters you wish to use. Save the pages to your desktop and when you need to use a character open that page and use Snaget to capture that character and save it as an image. then insert the image into your web document or mail compose window. Michael G -- Armadillo Web Development www.armadilloweb.com Cell: 903.244.3644 Opening your Door to Opportunity and inviting the world to walk through. Character is doing the right thing... Even when no one is watching... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Michael Gordon wrote: We need to get a good understanding on what is involved in using fonts on web pages and HTML mail. 1. On a web page, or HTML mail the font names we use must be installed on the viewers PC. Note 1 : the standard fall-back names (serif, sans-serif, etc.,) are all guaranteed to exist, but there can be no guarantee as to which font will actually be used. 2. If you use a font name that is not installed on the viewers PC then the browser, mail reader will resort to the common font installed. Note 2 : Not necessarily to just one common font; the browser will have the intelligence to look at the set of available fonts, and -- for each glyph -- pick a font that contains that glyph, if such a font exists. 3. If you are on a private network an you know all the fonts installed on all the PCs on that network you can use all the fancy fonts available to you. 4. To work around these limitations you can insert the image of these fancy font characters using Insert Image. Note 3a : or use web fonts [1] The simplest way to do this is to download Snaget screen capture. With SeaMonkey/Composer create a number of web pages, each page containing the different fancy font characters you wish to use. Save the pages to your desktop and when you need to use a character open that page and use Snaget to capture that character and save it as an image. then insert the image into your web document or mail compose window. Note 3b : Web fonts offer a better solution in environments where they can be sure to work. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 08/09/2011 11:45, Ray_Net told the world: Why is it possible to specify an font(name) and SM shows on the screen the picture of the character ?. EXCEPT for the Wingdings FONT ? It works in all other browsers making Firefox incompatible with all others. Because the Gecko engine works through Unicode. It sees J, converts it to the corresponding Unicode code point, and looks up that code point in the font. Wingdings is not an Unicode font, and does not list that Unicode code point as available; therefore, Gecko falls back to another font. Thanks, i appreciate your explanation. Therefore all programs based on Gecko cannot do what other browsers can. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Stéphane Grégoire wrote: Hi, Ray_Net a tapoté, le 08/09/2011 23:45: I very often get smileys from outlook users which display as J. And what should be showed in place of J? in place of J, in Wingdings font you have a very beautiful smiling smiley. JKL is smiling, neutral anf angry ... only Wingdings offer that. The guy who wrote a mail to me using Outlook, use J,K and L in Wingdings, i have Wingdings installed on my pc, so, normally, SM (as other browsers/mailreaders does) must/should display the 3 smiley accordingly. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sea Monkey - general thoughts by a user of 2.014 on PC with Windows XP svck 3
MCBastos wrote: As I explained, the corrections were *not* related to stability. But, in a way, the new so-called rapid-release train is already improving that. Under the new system, new features only get released after a minimum of twelve weeks (that's three months) of testing, where only bug fixes are allowed. KaiRo had a nice post explaining it a while ago... let me see if I can find it... here it is: http://home.kairo.at/blog/2011-08/why_rapid_releases_can_improve_stability Do you think that the majority of users needs new features so rapidly ? I have a doubt. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Ray_Net wrote: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: Hi, Ray_Net a tapoté, le 08/09/2011 23:45: I very often get smileys from outlook users which display as J. And what should be showed in place of J? in place of J, in Wingdings font you have a very beautiful smiling smiley. JKL is smiling, neutral anf angry ... only Wingdings offer that. The guy who wrote a mail to me using Outlook, use J,K and L in Wingdings, i have Wingdings installed on my pc, so, normally, SM (as other browsers/mailreaders does) must/should display the 3 smiley accordingly. May I ask, Ray, what content-encoding this mail specifies ? Because it seems difficult (to me) to find a content-encoding that would allow me to type both span style=font-family: TahomaJKL.span and span style=font-family: WingDingsJKL.span and have them both render as you would expect. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:10:47 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Thanks, i appreciate your explanation. Therefore all programs based on Gecko cannot do what other browsers can. All programs based on Gecko can do what other browsers can do and in ways more. It is just IE/MS can do the weird J displayed as smiling face. Have you actually tried your claims? I have. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/08/2011 08:23 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Ray_Net wrote: This is a line using SM newsgroup with Wingdings characters. This is a line using SM newsgroup with courier new characters. This is a line using SM newsgroup with Brush Script MT characters. As we can see SM is able to use and display the characters correctly for nearly all fonts, but refuse it to do with Wingdings. You may see it, Ray, others may not. I see three identical lines, with no variation in font whatsoever. What do you see on the next line ? [Using Symusic font]Testing, testing, testing ...[End Symusic] Philip Taylor On Ray's message: View|Message Body As|Original HTML ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Page displays singe character per line
This page http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/g3x/ starts out well, but when I click on Configurations or Features , the text displays only one character per line. It displays properly in IE 7. I've never seen this happen before, and I can't imagine what setting might cause it. Any ideas? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:19:28 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: Ray_Net a tapoté, le 08/09/2011 23:45: I very often get smileys from outlook users which display as J. And what should be showed in place of J? in place of J, in Wingdings font you have a very beautiful smiling smiley. JKL is smiling, neutral anf angry ... only Wingdings offer that. When you specify a font to display certain character, it doesn't change the character itself. In case the receiver doesn't have the font you've suggested, the character is displayed in a font available to him. You effectively suggest a character should be displayed using a glyph meant to represent totally different character. You also don't seem to grasp Wingdings doesn't have a glyph to character mapping, which makes it impossible to use for rendering any characters which otherwise the font appears to contain glyphs for. The guy who wrote a mail to me using Outlook, use J,K and L in Wingdings, i have Wingdings installed on my pc, so, normally, SM (as other browsers/mailreaders does) must/should display the 3 smiley accordingly. If I'm not mistaken only Windows have Wingdings, so it is far from normally. You should understand styling, such as specifying a specific font family, is optional and an user may have chosen to ignore such specifications. The content itself, the character J is not changed - just displayed using ones preferred styling/font. Relying on J displayed as something completely different is hilarious, the very least. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:36:37 +0200, /Ray_Net/: For those, having the Wingdings font installed on their machine and want to compare the rendering of SM compared with others browsers, they can look the page: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/WINGDINGS-TEST.html Opera, Firefox and SeaMonkey display JKL. IE, Chrome and Safari show 3 smiley characters. That's on Windows. I'm not sure the smileys are displayed the same in Chrome and Safari on other systems. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page displays singe character per line
Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:31:20 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:07:59 -0700, /flyguy/: This page http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/g3x/ starts out well, but when I click on Configurations or Features , the text displays only one character per line. It displays properly in IE 7. I've never seen this happen before, and I can't imagine what setting might cause it. Any ideas? It doesn't appear browser related. The content is all Flash applet - update your Flash plug-in. Make sure: http://www.mozilla.com/plugincheck/ says you have the latest Flash plugin installed. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page displays singe character per line
Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:07:59 -0700, /flyguy/: This page http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/g3x/ starts out well, but when I click on Configurations or Features , the text displays only one character per line. It displays properly in IE 7. I've never seen this happen before, and I can't imagine what setting might cause it. Any ideas? It doesn't appear browser related. The content is all Flash applet - update your Flash plug-in. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 01:36 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote: On a mail received from an outlook mail program i see: Re-Texte J instead of Re-Texte smiling smiley The J in Windings font is a smiling smiley But SM show me only a J. This is the part of mail source: span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1F497= D'Re-Textenbsp;/spanspan = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'J/span Do you think the problem is because it's not this source ? (i added quotes to the word 'Wingdings'): span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1F497= D'Re-Textenbsp;/spanspan = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'J/span For those, having the Wingdings font installed on their machine and want to compare the rendering of SM compared with others browsers, they can look the page: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/WINGDINGS-TEST.html Works for me - is there an issue? As do the wingding characters (including smiley face et al) in this page: http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html In fact I can copy past the J 74 0x4Asmileface into LibreOffice and it appears just fine (not a 'J' but a smiley face) and is properly set as 'Wingding' font. And yes, I do have the Wingding font installed on this system. $ locate wingding /home/g/.fonts/wingding.ttf /usr/lib/cinelerra/fonts/wingding.ttf /usr/share/groff/1.20.1/font/devlj4/generate/wingdings.map /usr/share/perl5/PDF/API2/Resource/Font/CoreFont/wingdings.pm So I dispute all the comments stating that Mozilla browsers can't display Wingding fonts. They certainly appear just fine for me. Further, if I compose an HTML email and invoke wingding fonts, uppercase JKL results in the 3 smiley's. Tried sending myself the same, but received msg was plain text only. I'll have to go mess with the mail settings to allow html to test. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 No comment on whether use of wingding fonts are proper in browser pages... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 02:19 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:36:37 +0200, /Ray_Net/: For those, having the Wingdings font installed on their machine and want to compare the rendering of SM compared with others browsers, they can look the page: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/WINGDINGS-TEST.html Opera, Firefox and SeaMonkey display JKL. IE, Chrome and Safari show 3 smiley characters. That's on Windows. I'm not sure the smileys are displayed the same in Chrome and Safari on other systems. Linux: Opera: 3 rectangles. Chromium: 13.0.782.215 (Developer Build 97094 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 JKL Chrome: 13.0.782.220 JKL Evince: Web Browser 2.30.2 3 smileys SeaMonkey: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 3 smileys ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 02:13 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: .. If I'm not mistaken only Windows have Wingdings, so it is far from Nah. It's available on linux as well: $ apt-cache search wingdings ttf-opensymbol - OpenSymbol TrueType font http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ttf-opensymbol normally. You should understand styling, such as specifying a specific font family, is optional and an user may have chosen to ignore such specifications. The content itself, the character J is not changed - just displayed using ones preferred styling/font. Relying on J displayed as something completely different is hilarious, the very least. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Ray_Net wrote: For those, having the Wingdings font installed on their machine and want to compare the rendering of SM compared with others browsers, they can look the page: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/WINGDINGS-TEST.html Windows 7 SeaMonkey displays JKL Windows 7 IE 32 Bit displays Smileys Windows 7 IE 64 Bit displays Smileys Windows 95 Netscape Communicator 4.5 displays Smileys ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sudden CPU peaks
On Friday, September 09, 2011 01:04:02 AM Francesco Presel wrote: I'm using SM 2.3.3 on linux x86_64 (I am using the contributed 64 bit build). Sometimes, especially while surfing the Bookmarks menu, the CPU usage suddenly rises to 100%, and the computer gets therefore blocked. Then, after some 10-15 seconds, everything gets back to normal. I think this issue has already come out, but I can't find it, and it's not in the release notes, so I'll report that, at least for me, it's not solved yet. Do you have some kind of indexing software turned in. You don't say what distro your using. In openSUSE they have indexing software but I have it turned off. I'm running Sm 2.3.4 and have not seen the above problem. -- Russ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:10:47 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Thanks, i appreciate your explanation. Therefore all programs based on Gecko cannot do what other browsers can. All programs based on Gecko can do what other browsers can do and in ways more. It is just IE/MS can do the weird J displayed as smiling face. Have you actually tried your claims? I have. It's not just IE.Netscape Communicator 4.5 from 1998 can do it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 03:04 PM, Jim Taylor wrote: Ray_Net wrote: For those, having the Wingdings font installed on their machine and want to compare the rendering of SM compared with others browsers, they can look the page: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/WINGDINGS-TEST.html Windows 7 SeaMonkey displays JKL Windows 7 IE 32 Bit displays Smileys Windows 7 IE 64 Bit displays Smileys Windows 95 Netscape Communicator 4.5 displays Smileys See my other posts. This /has/ to be a configuration setting somewhere. On SM 2.3.3 and 2.4b1 in WinXP I only see JKL. In those same in linux I see 3 smileys (on 3 different machines). And yes I have wingdings installed working on the WinXP machine (virtualmachine) and the linux machines. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page displays singe character per line
flyguy wrote: This page http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/g3x/ starts out well, but when I click on Configurations or Features , the text displays only one character per line. It displays properly in IE 7. I've never seen this happen before, and I can't imagine what setting might cause it. Any ideas? Usually happens when the designer specifies too little horizontal space (too wide a margin). As others have said, not your fault. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
NoOp wrote: Works for me - is there an issue? As do the wingding characters (including smiley face et al) in this page: http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html Ah, but you cheated: td class=bigfont face=Wingdings#74;/font/td td align=center74/td td align=center0x4A/td tdsmileface/td td class=big#9786;/td td9786/td tdU+263A/td tdWhite smiling face/td tdMiscellaneous Symbols/td You didn't tell it to display J in Wingdings, you told it to display #9786; in Wingdings. So of course we get a smiley, because this code point is blank and the browser substitutes the character from a font that does have it. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 04:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: Works for me - is there an issue? As do the wingding characters (including smiley face et al) in this page: http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html Ah, but you cheated: td class=bigfont face=Wingdings#74;/font/td td align=center74/td td align=center0x4A/td tdsmileface/td td class=big#9786;/td td9786/td tdU+263A/td tdWhite smiling face/td tdMiscellaneous Symbols/td You didn't tell it to display J in Wingdings, you told it to display #9786; in Wingdings. So of course we get a smiley, because this code point is blank and the browser substitutes the character from a font that does have it. Sorry Paul, but that doesn't compute. I fail to see where I cheated. Perhaps this will convince you... Even if I copy all 3 smileys from ray-nets test page (directly from the page) and paste into LibreOffice or Openoffice, they paste in directly as wingding characters (smileys) and the font displayed for the characters is wingdings. I'll be happy to provide screenshots if you'd like. Or would you prefer an exported PDF showing the characters instead? I suggest that the issue is most likely a configuration issue. The question is which setting (see my other posts regarding Windows). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 04:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: Works for me - is there an issue? As do the wingding characters (including smiley face et al) in this page: http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html Ah, but you cheated: td class=bigfont face=Wingdings#74;/font/td Really? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
CAVEAT LECTOR - was [Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?]
Daniel wrote:
taz043 wrote:
dsavitsk wrote:
It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so
now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a
href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/
browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button
scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a)
so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to
2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some
of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps
inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of
my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks!
Like dsavitsk, I think its about time for me to leave SeaMonkey after
many years of happy surfing. I hate tab browsing and no matter what I
uncheck in preferences I still have tabs and not the windows browsing I
prefer. Been like this since the last couple of updates. I do thank
all the folks, past and present that have labored on SeaMonkey since its
beginning.
Have you been told to check Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior to
set it as you require especially the top section dealing with Links?
Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior exists in 2.3.1 (= ?)
It does *NOT* exist in 2.0.8 !
Due to recent hardware problems I've had to revert to my backup
machine (IBM Thinkpad (aka Lenovo) T43). I've been happily running
2.0.8 forever {please note quotation marks). I updated to
something 'later'. It ran like molasses going uphill on Neptune in
mid-winter at its north pole ; I reverted to 2.0.8.
I have 2.3.1 on my desktop. It has not yet been allowed on Web as
there is yet no acceptable free (as in beer) AV program on it. [My
laptop uses commercial software and though I don't like some EULA
conditions, I abide by them.
I'm not particularly happy with much in the Free Software (as in
speech AND beer) movement. Many have followed Mr. Gates in saying
Papa knows best :
I'll try 2.3.1 on my laptop and see what happens.
P.S.
I use SeaMonkey as I've always liked the Netscape 4.x experience.
Thunderbird/Firefox annoying.
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Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?
Interviewed by CNN on 09/09/2011 15:11, Alex Baer told the world: Because the functionality is there, I used it, and created a multi- level hierarchy of folders, sub-folders and sub-sub-folders to organise my mail. This may or may not have been a great idea, but it became a huge problem, when after a crash the index files were damaged, and the program was unable to repair them, and all the structure information about the hierarchy of folders was lost. Uhhh... *what* structure information about the hierarchy? Seamonkey doesn't use *anything* like that. Nothing like the notorious folders.dbx in Outlook Express. The structure of the subfolders tree is implicit in the filesystem folders. You can just drop a mbox file anywhere in the tree and it will figure it out. What is more, the pseudo-hierarchy can be resolved only by Mozilla clients. Other programs don't know what to do the index files. Now, opening an mbox file with another mail client, and then opening the file again with a Mozilla client may also cause index file corruption, in my experience. So this is a very fragile approach. As long, as there are index files simulating hierarchies, that are not really there, for virtual folders containing thousands of emails, this is a harmful functionality. The hierachies *are there*. They are the filesystem folders. It's very, very simple. This simplicity is what makes the mbox system very robust. Pseudo-hierarchies should not be supported in combination with mbox, IMHO, as this approach is bound to cause trouble --- it's only a question of time. And, BTW, a quick research of the web will tell you, that I am by far not the only one who experienced this sort of problem. I very much like Seamonkey, it's functionality, it's UI etc. But I need a more robust mail client. With maildir (or mh) support, Seamonkey Mail could be it, but I don't trust it, as long as it only supports mbox with index files (and again: the index files are the problem, actually, not mbox as such). The index files hold *no* important information about the structure of the folder tree. You can delete *all* the index files (the .msf files) and Thunderbird/Seamonkey will rebuild the tree pretty much instantly. The only role of the index files is to speed up the messages listing for each folder. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Strawberry. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 9/7/11 8:44 AM, Ray_Net wrote: On a mail received from an outlook mail program i see: Re-Texte J instead of Re-Texte smiling smiley The J in Windings font is a smiling smiley But SM show me only a J. I just counted 53 replies to this message, including four of my own. These replies involve much teeth gnashing, criticism and defence of SeaMonkey and Gecko, heat, and even some light. All this has been about a cute graphic that adds NOTHING to the information contained in a message. In Yiddish, it would be called bupkis, which means garbanzo bean (something small and insignificant). You just cannot get what you want if what you want is contrary to the specifications, conventions, and standards around which software is developed. But you can get it if the developers -- especially Micro$oft -- ignore the the specifications, conventions, and standards and then try to bully other developers to follow their paths like lemmings. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
OOPS - was - [Re: Sea Monkey - general thoughts by a user of 2.014 on PC with Windows XP svck 3]
MCBastos wrote: *MASIVE* SNIP Right after 2.3.0 being made available, the dev team became aware of an issue with the digital certificates. another *MASSIVE* snip Should how certificates are accepted by SM be rethought? Why replace the whole program/system for a problem in one area? I confidently predict that this type of problem will exist until the heat death of universe ;! No, I don't want to guess at how many person years I'm implying. But I do think it should be considered. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 05:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 9/9/11 2:19 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:36:37 +0200, /Ray_Net/: For those, having the Wingdings font installed on their machine and want to compare the rendering of SM compared with others browsers, they can look the page: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/WINGDINGS-TEST.html Opera, Firefox and SeaMonkey display JKL. IE, Chrome and Safari show 3 smiley characters. That's on Windows. I'm not sure the smileys are displayed the same in Chrome and Safari on other systems. Of course IE would show smilies. After all, the Wingdings font file is a Micro$oft product according to the file properties. David, I've pretty much always respected your advise/posts. However in this case I think that you are way off base (unless I've misinterpreted the meaning of your response). I've already posted (multiple times in this thread) that the fonts/smileys render just fine for me with linux. I've also posted that they, for some reason do not in Windows (SeaMonkey 2.3.3 and 2.4b1). I have hundreds of fonts installed on my systems; all properly licensed and paid for btw, many of which are proprietary (Adobe fonts, etc). It seems to me that the primary issue is that SeaMonkey (for some reason) is not rendering the wingding fonts in Windows - it *is* for me on *all* of my linux systems. I maintain that the issue is most likely a configuration issue will try to do comparisons between the two. Therefore IMO Ray has a valid question and issue. *If* SeaMonkey xyz (in Windows) is not rendering the wingding fonts (and they could of course be any other proprietary/open fonts), then (again IMO) there *is* an issue. I think the best course of action is to not chastise him for the post, but instead help try to figure out why. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 05:59 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 9/7/11 8:44 AM, Ray_Net wrote: On a mail received from an outlook mail program i see: Re-Texte J instead of Re-Texte smiling smiley The J in Windings font is a smiling smiley But SM show me only a J. I just counted 53 replies to this message, including four of my own. These replies involve much teeth gnashing, criticism and defence of SeaMonkey and Gecko, heat, and even some light. All this has been about a cute graphic that adds NOTHING to the information contained in a message. In Yiddish, it would be called bupkis, which means garbanzo bean (something small and insignificant). You just cannot get what you want if what you want is contrary to the specifications, conventions, and standards around which software is developed. But you can get it if the developers -- especially Micro$oft -- ignore the the specifications, conventions, and standards and then try to bully other developers to follow their paths like lemmings. Perhaps you need to put on your thinking cap rather than drinking cap (joking) and *read* my posts that mention this font renders fine on my SeaMonkey versions (2.3.3 and 2.4b1) in linux, but for some reason fail to render in those same versions in Windows. Get off the nonsense regarding especially Micro$oft (which I see that you seem to be using with: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 (odd that you can't use SeaMonkey to post in a SeaMonkey newsgroup) and realize that Ray may indeed have a valid issue. Its *not* about a cute graphic but rather whether certain fonts render properly in SeaMonkey, both in html mail /and/ the browser. I still /think/ that it's a configuration issue; if you go back to the UTF-8 font issue last year Unicode fonts it was obvious after some testing that simply installing the proper font resolved the issue. I do understand that the Windows systems do have the wingding font installed (as do my linux systems), but my point is that the issue may simply be a configuration setting. Either way I think your response was off base. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OOPS - was - [Re: Sea Monkey - general thoughts by a user of 2.014 on PC with Windows XP svck 3]
Interviewed by CNN on 09/09/2011 22:03, Richard Owlett told the world: MCBastos wrote: *MASIVE* SNIP Right after 2.3.0 being made available, the dev team became aware of an issue with the digital certificates. another *MASSIVE* snip Should how certificates are accepted by SM be rethought? It already was. Now there are redundant certificate trees. Why replace the whole program/system for a problem in one area? Well, it was a patch. It was hardly replacing the whole program. I think the download was less than 2 Mb for me. I confidently predict that this type of problem will exist until the heat death of universe ;! No, I don't want to guess at how many person years I'm implying. But I do think it should be considered. I'm not the person to ask. But: generally speaking, the distribution of the certificates is a delicate problem -- it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing: you have to have trusted certificates to distribute trusted certificates... this has not been too frequent a problem, so distributing the certificates as part of the maintenance releases has worked so far. But I suppose there might be a better option. If you have an idea, file a bug with your suggestion. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my table at the Babylon 5 Zocalo. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 05:10 PM, NoOp wrote: On 09/09/2011 04:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: Works for me - is there an issue? As do the wingding characters (including smiley face et al) in this page: http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html Ah, but you cheated: td class=bigfont face=Wingdings#74;/font/td td align=center74/td td align=center0x4A/td tdsmileface/td td class=big#9786;/td td9786/td tdU+263A/td tdWhite smiling face/td tdMiscellaneous Symbols/td You didn't tell it to display J in Wingdings, you told it to display #9786; in Wingdings. So of course we get a smiley, because this code point is blank and the browser substitutes the character from a font that does have it. Sorry Paul, but that doesn't compute. I fail to see where I cheated. Perhaps this will convince you... Even if I copy all 3 smileys from ray-nets test page (directly from the page) and paste into LibreOffice or Openoffice, they paste in directly as wingding characters (smileys) and the font displayed for the characters is wingdings. I'll be happy to provide screenshots if you'd like. Or would you prefer an exported PDF showing the characters instead? I suggest that the issue is most likely a configuration issue. The question is which setting (see my other posts regarding Windows). Screenshots: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/screenshotwelcometothet.png/ [SeaMonkey 2.3.3] Screenshot of LibreOffice after copy past from that webpage directly into LibreOffice: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/screenshotunled1libreof.png/ Screenshot of that file exported to PDF showing the exported font details: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/screenshotunled1libreof.png/ Any further questions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 9/9/11 6:34 PM, NoOp wrote [in part]: Get off the nonsense regarding especially Micro$oft (which I see that you seem to be using with: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 (odd that you can't use SeaMonkey to post in a SeaMonkey newsgroup) and realize that Ray may indeed have a valid issue. I use three different profiles in SeaMonkey. I use Thunderbird for my newsgroup application because, when I switch profiles (which I do frequently), I don't want to lose my current newsgroup session. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
NoOp wrote: On 09/09/2011 04:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: Works for me - is there an issue? As do the wingding characters (including smiley face et al) in this page: http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html Ah, but you cheated: td class=bigfont face=Wingdings#74;/font/td Really? Does that display as a smiley on your system? I get an alphabet down the first column and the various smilies in column five, so I cited the column-five code as cheating. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 06:59 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: On 09/09/2011 04:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: Works for me - is there an issue? As do the wingding characters (including smiley face et al) in this page: http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html Ah, but you cheated: td class=bigfont face=Wingdings#74;/font/td Really? Does that display as a smiley on your system? I get an alphabet down the first column and the various smilies in column five, so I cited the column-five code as cheating. See my screenshots. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windings not showed on a html mail
On 09/09/2011 06:51 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 9/9/11 6:34 PM, NoOp wrote [in part]: Get off the nonsense regarding especially Micro$oft (which I see that you seem to be using with: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 (odd that you can't use SeaMonkey to post in a SeaMonkey newsgroup) and realize that Ray may indeed have a valid issue. I use three different profiles in SeaMonkey. I use Thunderbird for my newsgroup application because, when I switch profiles (which I do frequently), I don't want to lose my current newsgroup session. And? That's seems to be a personal problem. So when posting to a SeaMonkey newsgroup you _might_ want to try using the client of the newsgroup. Posting here with Thunderbird is akin to posting in a linux newsgroup using Windows... some folks may take objection to the irony. Either way you are using Micro$oft, as is the OP. Yet you seem to have resolved this to a Micro$oft issue rather than an issue of font rendering in SeaMonkey (Windows as far as I can tell). My suggestion is to stop lambasting the OP and instead try to figure out *why* a particular font (Microsoft or other) may not be working in SeaMonkey Windows versions when I've alread proven that it *does* work in my linux versions. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3.1 email and Google Desktop Search
MCBastos wrote: The thing is, it knows how to find and parse the Thunderbird profiles.ini, but doesn't look for the Seamonkey profiles.ini. I managed to make Copernic index my Seamonkey emails by deceiving it -- I installed an old copy of Thunderbird (which I don't intend to use, and in fact promptly disabled by renaming the main executable) and edited the Profiles.ini to point to the Seamonkey profile. Now it's happily indexing my emails. I tried this but neither the current Thunderbird 6.0.2 nor Seamonkey contains a profiles.ini file. SM does have a profile folder. Do I need a diferent version of Thunderbird? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3.1 email and Google Desktop Search
Interviewed by CNN on 10/09/2011 00:12, Steve B. told the world: MCBastos wrote: The thing is, it knows how to find and parse the Thunderbird profiles.ini, but doesn't look for the Seamonkey profiles.ini. I managed to make Copernic index my Seamonkey emails by deceiving it -- I installed an old copy of Thunderbird (which I don't intend to use, and in fact promptly disabled by renaming the main executable) and edited the Profiles.ini to point to the Seamonkey profile. Now it's happily indexing my emails. I tried this but neither the current Thunderbird 6.0.2 nor Seamonkey contains a profiles.ini file. SM does have a profile folder. Do I need a diferent version of Thunderbird? Perhaps. Copernic only claims to support Thunderbird up to version 3.1.x, I don't know whether Google supports later versions or not. I don't know whether the profiles.ini was removed in recent builds of Thunderbird. I'm using version 3.1.14, recently released by Mozilla -- since I won't be actually using Thunderbird, I didn't see reason for trying version 6.0.2. But, for what's worth, profiles.ini should be in %APPDATA%\Thunderbird -- that translates usually (for Windows 7, which I notice you are using) as: C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird Appdata is a hidden folder, so you might want to turn on display of hidden files. By the way, Seamonkey does have a profiles.ini -- it's located at %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey Oh... and I have recently noticed one thing... if you rename the Thunderbird executable (or delete it), Copernic will stop looking for emails on next boot -- it stops believing you have Thunderbird. Maybe that happens with Google too. I edited my Thunderbird profiles.ini to point to the Seamonkey profile as follows: Path=../Mozilla/Seamonkey/Profiles/[profile name] This was enough for Copernic. It could be that to fool Google you have to use a slightly different syntax -- perhaps the full path name... A caveat, though: after you edit profiles.ini, it's probably a *very bad idea* to EVER run Thunderbird. The mail stores may be identical, but the rest of the profiles are NOT. So it's possible, even likely, that Thunderbird could corrupt your Seamonkey profile. That's why I wanted to neuter Thunderbird by renaming the executable. I had to settle for deleting the shortcuts. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Newton MessagePad. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sudden CPU peaks
On 9/9/2011 9:53 AM, cmcadams wrote: Francesco Presel wrote: I'm using SM 2.3.3 on linux x86_64 (I am using the contributed 64 bit build). Sometimes, especially while surfing the Bookmarks menu, the CPU usage suddenly rises to 100%, and the computer gets therefore blocked. Then, after some 10-15 seconds, everything gets back to normal. I think this issue has already come out, but I can't find it, and it's not in the release notes, so I'll report that, at least for me, it's not solved yet. Ditto. XP SP3, 32-bit. Same here: XP, SP3, 32 bit, 4 GB memory. In my case, the disk also becomes busy. I did not have this with 2.3.1. It does seem like it's using lot less memory, as my memory meter shows ~43% instead of the ~52% with earlier versions - maybe connection? I show ~25% in use before SM starts. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3.1 email and Google Desktop Search
Interviewed by CNN on 07/09/2011 22:32, MCBastos told the world: The thing is, it knows how to find and parse the Thunderbird profiles.ini, but doesn't look for the Seamonkey profiles.ini. I managed to make Copernic index my Seamonkey emails by deceiving it -- I installed an old copy of Thunderbird (which I don't intend to use, and in fact promptly disabled by renaming the main executable) and edited the Profiles.ini to point to the Seamonkey profile. Now it's happily indexing my emails. An amendment: Turns out that I *cannot* rename or delete the main Thunderbird executable -- Copernic will stop looking for the emails by next boot, no matter whether all the rest of the TB installation is present. So I had to settle for deleting the shortcuts. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Total Lack of Social Skills. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page displays singe character per line
On 9/9/2011 2:31 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:07:59 -0700, /flyguy/: This page http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/g3x/ starts out well, but when I click on Configurations or Features , the text displays only one character per line. It displays properly in IE 7. I've never seen this happen before, and I can't imagine what setting might cause it. Any ideas? It doesn't appear browser related. The content is all Flash applet - update your Flash plug-in. I was using Flash 10.3.183.5, and now it's upgraded to 10.3.183.7, and the page works much better. Boy, that's pretty picky when a small version change like that makes a page unreadable! There are still some problems. When I click Overview, instead of showing three full paragraphs, it shows only the first line from each paragraph Now, all the capabilities you want in a true “glass cockpi The easy-to-install suite is built around Garmin’s GDU 370 You can choose a single- or multi-screen configuration w Everything else seems to work like it does in IE7. What was odd is IE 7 was working fine before upgrading Flash and still works fine - does it keep it's own copy of Flash? Hmmm...just noticed in IE 7 Manage Add-ons it shows lists Shockwave Flash Object Flash10e.ocx, so maybe it is using something different. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
