Re: Controlling font size when composing email ?

[Michael Gordon]

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

When I'm reading email, or a news article,or a web page,
I can increase of decrease the size of the displayed text
with CTRL+ and CTRL-.

Why is the same facility not available when I'm composing
email? :-(

For some encodings, I can set the font size using the fonts
preference panel Edit>preferences>appearance>fonts,
But this does not work for example for unicode-8. which
is, understandably, not choosable via fonts-preferences.
In that case one needs a straight magnification/contraction
capability.
In my case for unicode-8 the font chosen/used by the system is
miniscule, and my sight is not all that good anymore. :-(
Anyway it would be most convenient in other cases as well.


Because when you are composing mail, or a web page you have already set 
the font size.  You have already set the minium fort size to read a 
message, or web page.


Try resetting Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts to what ever you want to 
read.


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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Paul]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


chicagofan wrote:


Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search 
page.  I have never been able to use this feature.  Is this a problem with the 
SM Google access... or something else?  The link for this option never shows up 
as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a 
way to do it manually.

Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature?  I hope not... I'd 
really like to use it and would appreciate any advice.  TIA
bj


This was working wonderfully for me, and then disappeared,
as did the option to (re-)instate it.  All I got was a horrible
blue smear pointing at "Web".  Having spent some time tracking
down the cause, I find that it is because I have disabled the
option (Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).

As I do not wish to falsely claim  that I am using Firefox, I have
installed the "PrefBar" add-on and added the UA string :

"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902; Firefox/6.0.2 
compatible; SeaMonkey/2.3.3"

(i.e., the default UA string with the addition of the word "compatible" and 
some semi-colons).

I would /prefer/ not to have to use an add-on to accomplish this.  Is there
an "about:config" setting (or similar) that will allow me to modify the
default User Agent string directly ?

Philip Taylor


This is a portion of mine:  I use 1119.
Using about:config you can add what ever you want.
Mine says  "Like Firefox".
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2 userset string Like Firefox/3.0.
Just type in a new line for a new item.  Name each line slightly
different like  .seamonkey3 or .seamonkey4, etc.
My full string works fairly well on everything.

Each item requires a line in about config similar to the one above.
NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 Like Firefox/3.0 Firefox/3.6.16 
Firefox/2.0.0.24

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Re: Controlling font size when composing email ?

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 22/09/2011 01:42, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj told the world:
> When I'm reading email, or a news article,or a web page,
> I can increase of decrease the size of the displayed text
> with CTRL+ and CTRL-.
> 
> Why is the same facility not available when I'm composing
> email? :-(
> 
> For some encodings, I can set the font size using the fonts
> preference panel Edit>preferences>appearance>fonts,
> But this does not work for example for unicode-8. which
> is, understandably, not choosable via fonts-preferences.
> In that case one needs a straight magnification/contraction
> capability.
> In my case for unicode-8 the font chosen/used by the system is
> miniscule, and my sight is not all that good anymore. :-(
> Anyway it would be most convenient in other cases as well.

Hmmm, this is one long-standing enhancement request:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177510

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Controlling font size when composing email ?

[Rostyslaw Lewyckyj]

When I'm reading email, or a news article,or a web page,
I can increase of decrease the size of the displayed text
with CTRL+ and CTRL-.

Why is the same facility not available when I'm composing
email? :-(

For some encodings, I can set the font size using the fonts
preference panel Edit>preferences>appearance>fonts,
But this does not work for example for unicode-8. which
is, understandably, not choosable via fonts-preferences.
In that case one needs a straight magnification/contraction
capability.
In my case for unicode-8 the font chosen/used by the system is
miniscule, and my sight is not all that good anymore. :-(
Anyway it would be most convenient in other cases as well.
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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[NoOp]

On 09/21/2011 05:36 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
...
> I must be explaining myself very badly today, so let
> me try to spell things out more simply 

You are as you are hijacking the original thread...
[SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem]
Start a new thread.
...
> 5) Therefore I wish to modify the User Agent string to contain the phrase
>   "Firefox/6.0.2 compatible" rather than just "Firefox/6.0.2" as
>   currently occurs.
> 
> 6) So I would like to ask : "Is there an 'about:config' variable (or 
> analogous means)
>   by which I can modify the default User Agent string.

There was until this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581008
[Remove support for appending arbitrary data to the User Agent string]

Now, how about starting your own thread rather than using "SM 2.0.10 -
Google images problem" for your issue?

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Re: for a friend ...

[km]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/21/11 10:39 AM, km wrote:

...  i need to download and install SM such that
the peompt that appears each tine it is started
AND ask if you want to make it default  browser
is NOT asked. is this possible???

km



On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit>  Preferences].

On the left side of the Preferences window (under Category), select
[Advanced].

On the Advanced pane, uncheck the "Cehck default ..." checkbox.

Select the OK button.



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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[cmcadams]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



cmcadams wrote:


Is it actually lying when the only 'entity' that will ever see it is another 
computer?
And when there are neither moral or ethical implications? Some might call it a 
work-around.


I would argue that there are ethical implications.  It is
a User Agent.  It acts on my behalf.   I do not want it
to lie on my behalf, particularly when there is no need for
it to do so.  It could say "Firefox  compatible",
"Shares code with Firefox", "Uses the same
rendering engine as Firefox" or any of a million
other valid descriptions, all of which would allow Google
and similar sites to treat it as Firefox.  It does not
need to lie.


Ethical implications in the abstract sense of giving people who have misprogrammed 
servers a pass for undesirable behavior, perhaps. Okay. On the other hand I don't 
think any bad karma attaches to misleading a computer.


If the preferable alternatives you describe fail to work then I'd argue that there IS 
a need to 'lie'. On the evidence I'd say SM's developers agree. The downside is that 
the malefactors fail to learn, but since we have no apparent leverage in that regard 
the point's moot.

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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


I must be explaining myself very badly today, so let me try to spell
things out more simply :


No, your statements have been very clear. It's just that when you say 
something your listener/reader finds implausible or unexpected, they 
tend to think you must mean to say something else. Sometimes they do it 
consciously, but often they don't even realize they're "correcting" your 
words in their minds.


I know it can be frustrating, but it's how most listeners and readers 
operate.


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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

cmcadams wrote:

> Is it actually lying when the only 'entity' that will ever see it is another 
> computer?
> And when there are neither moral or ethical implications? Some might call it 
> a work-around.

I would argue that there are ethical implications.  It is
a User Agent.  It acts on my behalf.   I do not want it
to lie on my behalf, particularly when there is no need for
it to do so.  It could say "Firefox  compatible",
"Shares code with Firefox ", "Uses the same
rendering engine as Firefox " or any of a million
other valid descriptions, all of which would allow Google
and similar sites to treat it as Firefox.  It does not
need to lie.

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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[cmcadams]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:




Daniel wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Having spent some time tracking down the cause, I find that it is
because I have disabled the option
(Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).



Philip, rather than "about:config" you can Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking 
and then under User Agent String, tick the box for "Advertise Firefox compatibility".


Yes, but then it claims to /be/ Firefox, not to be compatible therewith.
That was the point of the question.  I do not want my User Agent to lie --
I don't, so why should it, on my behalf ?


Is it actually lying when the only 'entity' that will ever see it is another 
computer? And when there are neither moral or ethical implications? Some might call 
it a work-around.

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Re: for a friend ...

[David E. Ross]

On 9/21/11 10:39 AM, km wrote:
> ...  i need to download and install SM such that
> the peompt that appears each tine it is started
> AND ask if you want to make it default  browser
> is NOT asked. is this possible???
> 
> km
> 

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

On the left side of the Preferences window (under Category), select
[Advanced].

On the Advanced pane, uncheck the "Cehck default ..." checkbox.

Select the OK button.

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for a friend ...

[km]

...  i need to download and install SM such that
the peompt that appears each tine it is started
AND ask if you want to make it default  browser
is NOT asked. is this possible???

km

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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

MCBastos wrote:

>> 5) Therefore I wish to modify the User Agent string to contain the phrase
>>  "Firefox/6.0.2 compatible" rather than just "Firefox/6.0.2" as
>>  currently occurs.
>
> You might wish to reconsider that particular string; it has been pointed
> out, in a different thread, that many browser-sniffing scripts consider
> the presence of the word "compatible" as proof positive that you are
> using Internet Explorer -- and therefore start serving you pages tweaked
> to fit the IE rendering bugs.
>
> Many users have been using "NOT Firefox/6.0.2" or similar constructs
> with reasonable success.

I'm not irrevocably wedded to the exact wording; rather, it is the
existence (or otherwise) of a clean mechanism for defining the
User Agent string that I am attempting to elucidate ...

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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Ray_Net]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 21/09/2011 09:36, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
told the world:


5) Therefore I wish to modify the User Agent string to contain the phrase
"Firefox/6.0.2 compatible" rather than just "Firefox/6.0.2" as
currently occurs.


You might wish to reconsider that particular string; it has been pointed
out, in a different thread, that many browser-sniffing scripts consider
the presence of the word "compatible" as proof positive that you are
using Internet Explorer -- and therefore start serving you pages tweaked
to fit the IE rendering bugs.

Many users have been using "NOT Firefox/6.0.2" or similar constructs
with reasonable success.



The question is: How to insert  "NOT Firefox/6.0.2" in the UA string
*without* using an ADDON like PrefBar ?
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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 21/09/2011 09:36, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
told the world:

> 5) Therefore I wish to modify the User Agent string to contain the phrase
>   "Firefox/6.0.2 compatible" rather than just "Firefox/6.0.2" as
>   currently occurs.

You might wish to reconsider that particular string; it has been pointed
out, in a different thread, that many browser-sniffing scripts consider
the presence of the word "compatible" as proof positive that you are
using Internet Explorer -- and therefore start serving you pages tweaked
to fit the IE rendering bugs.

Many users have been using "NOT Firefox/6.0.2" or similar constructs
with reasonable success.

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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Jay Garcia wrote:

> I'm confused, you said:
> 
  because I have disabled the option
 (Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).
> 
> So if that's the case then re-enable it, yes?

I must be explaining myself very badly today, so let
me try to spell things out more simply :

1) I would like to be able to use the Google search page wallpaper feature,
in order to avoid the ugly, distracting, blue smeary arrow that
has recently started to appear.

2) To do this, it would seem that I need to include the string "Firefox"
(and perhaps some version number) in my User Agent string.

3) If I enable the option "Advertise Firefox compatibility", Seamonkey
instead pretends to /be/ Firefox, in that it includes the
string "Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3"

in the User Agent string.
4) I do not want Seamonkey to pretend to be Firefox (which it is not);
I simply wish it to assert that it is Firefox-compatible.

5) Therefore I wish to modify the User Agent string to contain the phrase
"Firefox/6.0.2 compatible" rather than just "Firefox/6.0.2" as
currently occurs.

6) So I would like to ask : "Is there an 'about:config' variable (or analogous 
means)
by which I can modify the default User Agent string.

Philip Taylor
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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Jay Garcia]

On 21.09.2011 06:49, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> 
> 
> 
> Daniel wrote:
>> Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
> 
>>> Having spent some time tracking down the cause, I find that it is
>>> because I have disabled the option
>>> (Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).
> 
>> Philip, rather than "about:config" you can Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP 
>> Networking and then under User Agent String, tick the box for "Advertise 
>> Firefox compatibility".
> 
> Yes, but then it claims to /be/ Firefox, not to be compatible therewith.
> That was the point of the question.  I do not want my User Agent to lie --
> I don't, so why should it, on my behalf ?
> 
> Philip Taylor

I'm confused, you said:

>>>  because I have disabled the option
>>> (Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).

So if that's the case then re-enable it, yes?

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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Daniel wrote:
> Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

>> Having spent some time tracking down the cause, I find that it is
>> because I have disabled the option
>> (Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).

> Philip, rather than "about:config" you can Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP 
> Networking and then under User Agent String, tick the box for "Advertise 
> Firefox compatibility".

Yes, but then it claims to /be/ Firefox, not to be compatible therewith.
That was the point of the question.  I do not want my User Agent to lie --
I don't, so why should it, on my behalf ?

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Re: Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Daniel]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



chicagofan wrote:


Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search 
page.  I have never been able to use this feature.  Is this a problem with the 
SM Google access... or something else?  The link for this option never shows up 
as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a 
way to do it manually.

Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature?  I hope not... I'd 
really like to use it and would appreciate any advice.  TIA
bj


This was working wonderfully for me, and then disappeared,
as did the option to (re-)instate it.  All I got was a horrible
blue smear pointing at "Web".  Having spent some time tracking
down the cause, I find that it is because I have disabled the
option (Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).

As I do not wish to falsely claim  that I am using Firefox, I have
installed the "PrefBar" add-on and added the UA string :

"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902; Firefox/6.0.2 
compatible; SeaMonkey/2.3.3"

(i.e., the default UA string with the addition of the word "compatible" and 
some semi-colons).

I would /prefer/ not to have to use an add-on to accomplish this.  Is there
an "about:config" setting (or similar) that will allow me to modify the
default User Agent string directly ?

Philip Taylor


Philip, rather than "about:config" you can 
Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking and then under User Agent 
String, tick the box for "Advertise Firefox compatibility".


HTH

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Google images problem and "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

chicagofan wrote:

> Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the 
> search page.  I have never been able to use this feature.  Is this a problem 
> with the SM Google access... or something else?  The link for this option 
> never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, 
> I've never found a way to do it manually.
> 
> Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature?  I hope not... 
> I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice.  TIA
> bj

This was working wonderfully for me, and then disappeared,
as did the option to (re-)instate it.  All I got was a horrible
blue smear pointing at "Web".  Having spent some time tracking
down the cause, I find that it is because I have disabled the
option (Advanced / HTTP Networking / Advertise Firefox compatibility).

As I do not wish to falsely claim  that I am using Firefox, I have
installed the "PrefBar" add-on and added the UA string :

"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902; Firefox/6.0.2 
compatible; SeaMonkey/2.3.3"

(i.e., the default UA string with the addition of the word "compatible" and 
some semi-colons).

I would /prefer/ not to have to use an add-on to accomplish this.  Is there
an "about:config" setting (or similar) that will allow me to modify the
default User Agent string directly ?

Philip Taylor
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Re: Chatzilla.....Here today, gone yesterday!!

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 9/19/2011 7:09 AM, Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

I dual boot Mandriva Linux 2009 and Win7.

Since about SM 2.1, sometimes in SM Linux I have Chatzilla available
and
sometimes/usually, I don't. When I had SM 2.3.2, I don't think I had
it.
When I upgraded to 2.3.3, I certainly didn't have Chatzilla available.

I was considering downloading a full SM 2.3.3 to get my Chatzilla, but,
last night, I booted up SM on Win7 to let any updates apply, and I had
Chatzilla available. Tonight, I again booted into Linux SM and, lo and
behold, I've got Chatzilla available (and running) on my Linux SM 2.3.3

Will it still be available tomorrow, I wonder!!

Anybody got any suggestions??



And, tonight, I have no Chatzilla icon on Linux, again!!



Ok, so when you say, "icon is gone" where do you use/see it normally. Is
the icon the ONLY thing different/gone, etc.



Sorry, Justin, am I using the wrong term for the five symbols in the
bottom left of the SM screen (Browser, Mail/News, Composer, Addressbook
and the errant Chatzilla)

All five still showing since I cleared the Error Console a couple of
days back. Next time the Chatzilla Symbol disappears, I'll check the
last few messages in that screen.



In re-reading my above response, I realised that the various components 
are also available from the Window drop down menu and there are the 
Ctrl-n keyboard commands as well. I'll have to remember to give them a 
try if I lose the "icon" again.


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Re: Chatzilla.....Here today, gone yesterday!!

[Daniel]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 9/19/2011 7:09 AM, Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

I dual boot Mandriva Linux 2009 and Win7.

Since about SM 2.1, sometimes in SM Linux I have Chatzilla available and
sometimes/usually, I don't. When I had SM 2.3.2, I don't think I had it.
When I upgraded to 2.3.3, I certainly didn't have Chatzilla available.

I was considering downloading a full SM 2.3.3 to get my Chatzilla, but,
last night, I booted up SM on Win7 to let any updates apply, and I had
Chatzilla available. Tonight, I again booted into Linux SM and, lo and
behold, I've got Chatzilla available (and running) on my Linux SM 2.3.3

Will it still be available tomorrow, I wonder!!

Anybody got any suggestions??



And, tonight, I have no Chatzilla icon on Linux, again!!



Ok, so when you say, "icon is gone" where do you use/see it normally. Is
the icon the ONLY thing different/gone, etc.



Sorry, Justin, am I using the wrong term for the five symbols in the 
bottom left of the SM screen (Browser, Mail/News, Composer, Addressbook 
and the errant Chatzilla)


All five still showing since I cleared the Error Console a couple of 
days back. Next time the Chatzilla Symbol disappears, I'll check the 
last few messages in that screen.


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