Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:





In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.



I can't think of how filters could even work in News accounts only Mail.
   e.g, you can't "delete" posts or mark them "Junk" like you can with
messages so a filter couldn't do that either.

Can you give some examples?

GW

Hmmm . . . I use filters on News groups, and they work just fine. Note
that my setting is View>Threads>Threads With Unread, so for postings
that I find to be abusive, my filter (based on the sender) is set to
"Mark As Read" and they don't show up. And yes, Delete is another choice
and it works when tested, although I don't actually use it.

True, some Mail settings like Junk aren't available for News groups.

HTH.

Larry S.


Geoff, in News Groups you can set filters to e.g. Mark as Read, Copy 
Message to, Ignore Thread (there are about 10-12 possible filters). And 
you can apply the filters to individual groups on a server or to ever 
group on the server.


Larry, have the worked in the last week or so?? I'm sure I've read 
somewhere that they are not working, maybe since the release of SM 2.21, 
so your old filters may still work (I don't know either way for sure), 
but on my new filters they are not working!


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or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 07/10/2013 08:52, Daniel told the world:

MCBastos wrote:



In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


Filtering works fine with both POP and IMAP, with one major exception:
AFAIK, filters only apply to new messages in the main inbox. That is, if
you have set up rules on the webserver to move messages to other
folders, those messages will be ignored by Seamonkey's filters. I have
had a few dozen filters spread over a bunch of e-mail accounts, running
the gamut from brain-deader-than-usual POP3 to standard POP and IMAP to
Gmail and Yahoo IMAP-weirdness. Hotmail/Life/Outlook does not support
IMAP so far ("We will get around to it eventually, sometime, hopefully
before 2020, but Why would you want to use a widely-supported open
protocol instead of our own proprietary one, which is supported only by
a handful of mails clients other than our own crappy ones?"), so the
times I had to deal with them, I had to use POP.

There have been reports of problems with filtering in news (NNTP)
accounts, however. I haven't tested to see the extent of the
limitations. However, many filter actions like "delete" and "mark as
spam" aren't available for newsgroups. It MIGHT be possible to use
filters to do the things that are available in the right-click menu, but
as I said, I didn't test it.



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
(Of course I'm talking about the thread pane, not during individual
message display.)

Larry S.


Larry, I normally set my filters on news groups to "Mark as Read" so I 
don't "see" the posts from e.g. those who's opinions I'm not interested 
in reading.


So in a particular NG, there might be 15 un-read message, but when the 
headers are downloaded, there might be only 10 un-read messages, with 
the other five having been "Marked as Read".


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[Composer] Display windows as MDI instead of SDI?

[frdtheman]

Hello

I browsed through the Preferences menu but found no item about this.

When working on multiple documents, I prefer to have all of them displayed 
within a single program as MDI windows; By default, Composer opens a new (SDI) 
window for each.

Can Composer be reconfigured to work in MDI mode?

Thank you.
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sinking with outlook?

[Bryan v. Roache]

hi, is their an adon to sink outlook contacts with sea monkey address book?
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Problems with email program

[Kim Clancy]

Yesterday evening my email program stopped retrieving 
incoming emails and when I click on 'Get Messages' the 
following is what comes up:


"Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server 
mail.bellsouth.net responded: Service is not available; 
please try again later. (#MBR1236)"


I've changed nothing and when I went to Bellsouth (AT&T) 
they tell me that it has nothing to do with them.  If I go 
to the main AT&T website and pull up 'webmail' those 
messages come up. Why would they not come into my email 
program?  I have the current SeaMonkey download.


Thank you,
Kim
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Re: sinking with outlook?

[David E. Ross]

On 10/8/2013 7:22 AM, Bryan v. Roache wrote:
> hi, is their an adon to sink outlook contacts with sea monkey address book?
> 

I hope so.  I would want to sink Outlook as deeply as possible.

However, I have no desire to synchronize Outlook with SeaMonkey.

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On occasion, I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam, flames, and trolling from that source.
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Re: Problems with email program

[Connie]

On 08/10/2013 15:18, Kim Clancy wrote:

Yesterday evening my email program stopped retrieving incoming emails and when I
click on 'Get Messages' the following is what comes up:

"Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server mail.bellsouth.net responded:
Service is not available; please try again later. (#MBR1236)"

I've changed nothing and when I went to Bellsouth (AT&T) they tell me that it
has nothing to do with them.  If I go to the main AT&T website and pull up
'webmail' those messages come up. Why would they not come into my email
program?  I have the current SeaMonkey download.


I have this periodically and I'm not with BellSouth.  It /is/ only a temporary 
problem.  If I leave it for an hour or so, I can download the mail with no 
further problems.  I put it down to too many people trying to access a 
particular server at that particular time.


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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Larry S.]

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 07/10/2013 08:52, Daniel told the world:

MCBastos wrote:



In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


Filtering works fine with both POP and IMAP, with one major exception:
AFAIK, filters only apply to new messages in the main inbox. That is, if
you have set up rules on the webserver to move messages to other
folders, those messages will be ignored by Seamonkey's filters. I have
had a few dozen filters spread over a bunch of e-mail accounts, running
the gamut from brain-deader-than-usual POP3 to standard POP and IMAP to
Gmail and Yahoo IMAP-weirdness. Hotmail/Life/Outlook does not support
IMAP so far ("We will get around to it eventually, sometime, hopefully
before 2020, but Why would you want to use a widely-supported open
protocol instead of our own proprietary one, which is supported only by
a handful of mails clients other than our own crappy ones?"), so the
times I had to deal with them, I had to use POP.

There have been reports of problems with filtering in news (NNTP)
accounts, however. I haven't tested to see the extent of the
limitations. However, many filter actions like "delete" and "mark as
spam" aren't available for newsgroups. It MIGHT be possible to use
filters to do the things that are available in the right-click menu, but
as I said, I didn't test it.



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
(Of course I'm talking about the thread pane, not during individual
message display.)

Larry S.


Larry, I normally set my filters on news groups to "Mark as Read" so I
don't "see" the posts from e.g. those who's opinions I'm not interested
in reading.

So in a particular NG, there might be 15 un-read message, but when the
headers are downloaded, there might be only 10 un-read messages, with
the other five having been "Marked as Read".

Daniel, that's exactly what I do. Working in 2.21 as far as I can tell. 
Suppose I could make sure, by unchecking the "Enabled" box for the 
filters, and see if I get the unwelcome messages. However, I prefer to 
let someone else make that determination (bad citizen!).


Larry S.
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Re: Problems with email program

[Ray Davison]

Connie wrote:


I have this periodically and I'm not with BellSouth.  It /is/ only a
temporary problem.  If I leave it for an hour or so, I can download the
mail with no further problems.  I put it down to too many people trying
to access a particular server at that particular time.

There are a variety of cases where mail send fails.  One that I 
encounter is lack of a mail server at on-road hot spots.  Another is, 
Charter does not block any incoming mail.  That I consider good.  But if 
I then try to forward mail across the room to my wife, they will block 
what they consider "inappropriate".


I have a common fix for such things.  At the top of the message area of 
the compose window is "From".  At the right end of that is a down arrow. 
 I click that and select a GMail account.  GMail will apparently take 
anything.


Ray


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Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.21 on Ubuntu

[MR ZenWiz]

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Trane Francks  wrote:
>>
> I get a different IP address:
>
> Gaia:~ trane$ ping keyserver.ubuntu.com
> PING keyserver.ubuntu.com (91.189.89.49): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 91.189.89.49: icmp_seq=0 ttl=44 time=291.225 ms
> 64 bytes from 91.189.89.49: icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=294.778 ms
> 64 bytes from 91.189.89.49: icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 time=293.664 ms
> 64 bytes from 91.189.89.49: icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 time=291.971 ms
> 64 bytes from 91.189.89.49: icmp_seq=4 ttl=45 time=315.669 ms
> ^C
>
> --- keyserver.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
> 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 291.225/297.461/315.669/9.189 ms
>
I can't seem to reach that one (from work) either.  Probably a firewall issue.

I'll try both from home and see what happens.

Thanks!

MR
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Re: Problems with email program

[chicagofan]

Kim Clancy wrote:
Yesterday evening my email program stopped retrieving incoming emails 
and when I click on 'Get Messages' the following is what comes up:


"Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server mail.bellsouth.net 
responded: Service is not available; please try again later. (#MBR1236)"


I've changed nothing and when I went to Bellsouth (AT&T) they tell me 
that it has nothing to do with them.  If I go to the main AT&T website 
and pull up 'webmail' those messages come up. Why would they not come 
into my email program?  I have the current SeaMonkey download.


Thank you,
Kim


When I had Bellsouth I got that message periodically when they were 
doing maintenance.  "Not available" doesn't indicate a problem on your 
end in my mind.   Hope service is back by now.   :)

bj
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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[ss]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.

MCB - Thanks, I have pop3 access but can redo for IMAP. Just did not 
want to go through the changes, which are not bad at all..

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[ss]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I
have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go
directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.


I've used a wide variety of filters on POP3 mail on a dozen or so
different accounts going all the way back to Netscape 4.7, and they have
always worked as expected. Most recently, I've used them on a gmail
account, once I figured out how to tell Google to allow POP mail
downloads, and they worked fine. So if the OP can retrieve Yahoo mail
this way, I expect filters to work as well.

However, I haven't tried filters with newsgroups, so I can't speak
directly to your experience.



Paul - thank you. The challenge is/was getting the already filtered 
emails into SM.


SM's filters work well, with the exception of when I make errors in 
setting them up correctly for specific messages.. LOL


Thank you for your input, it is appreciated.

bo1953
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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[ss]

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2013 19:19, Ray Davison told the world:

ss wrote:

Hello all, My question today is, how can I get SM 2.21 go to my
sub-folders to collect mail on web based accounts? e.g. in yahoo I have
eight message filters which do not stay in the in-box, they go directly
to their respective folders at yahoo.com. What are the settings for
having sm check the filters to import the messages or is there a
setting
change at yahoo.com I need to make?


I assume you want to bring mail from Yahoo to SM ao that it resides on
your HDD.  If so, just get rid of the filters in Yahoo, create a Yahoo
account in SM, and let SM filter them.


Or else use IMAP, which reproduces locally the server's folder
structure. In fact, Yahoo does not give POP access for free accounts,
but it does give IMAP (although they claim it's "unsupported" for
desktop clients; they say it's "just for phones and tablets"). Although
I find their IMAP behaves slightly oddly.


In advising the OP to download their Yahoo messages and then do the
filtering in SeaMonkey, have you tried it??

I, sort of, recall reading somewhere here-abouts, that filters are not
working, for some reason, and, by-the-by, last night I set up two new
filters on my Usenet account but, tonight, they are not doing anything.



Daniel,

I think I was advised to filter within SM and not in Y, which I 
currently do. I also was filtering in Yahoo, which was not permitting me 
to gain access to already filtered messages, only those in the main folder.


Thank you...
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When opening a page, it reloads to a blank page

[Rex]

Seen this quite a few times on 2.21 and 2.19 as well, on 64-bit Windows 
8. While opening a page - Google search results mostly, and other pages 
as well (imdb.com as of this post) - the entire page loads, then 
suddenly appears to reload, and I end up with a blank page. Refreshing 
the site only repeats the behavior.

Have turned off Adblock Plus, but got the same result.


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LastPass addon ...

[Peter Anton]

LastPass addon hasn't worked since SM ver. 1.15.1.  I'dlike to upgrade 
SM but I like LPso I haven't yet. Last time this happened, it was ironed 
out a short time after SM's 1.15.1 version came out. I don't know which 
app to blame; all I know is that SM reports that LP is incompatible. 
Anyone using LastPass password vault and having problems or finding 
solutions?

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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Paul B. Gallagher]

ss wrote:


Paul - thank you. The challenge is/was getting the already filtered
emails into SM.


The only thing I can think of is to retrieve all mail, which (assuming 
this is a POP download) will empty the online Inbox. Then go into the 
webmail and move the filtered messages back to the inbox and do another 
POP download. Lather, rinse, repeat.


If you've filtered to only a couple of other boxes online, this is 
practical, but if you have an elaborate system with dozens of online 
boxes, never mind.


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Re: Problems with email program

[HilsB]

Ray Davison wrote:

Connie wrote:


I have this periodically and I'm not with BellSouth.  It /is/ only a
temporary problem.  If I leave it for an hour or so, I can download the
mail with no further problems.  I put it down to too many people trying
to access a particular server at that particular time.


There are a variety of cases where mail send fails.  One that I encounter is 
lack of a mail server at on-road
hot spots.  Another is, Charter does not block any incoming mail.  That I 
consider good.  But if I then try to
forward mail across the room to my wife, they will block what they consider 
"inappropriate".

I have a common fix for such things.  At the top of the message area of the compose 
window is "From".  At the
right end of that is a down arrow.  I click that and select a GMail account.  
GMail will apparently take
anything.

Ray


This happens here (Isle of Man)from time to time.  One day it was very persistent and on contacting my ISP 
their technician confessed it happens to him too.  His workaround was to shutdown and reload his mail program 
in extreme cases if that didn't work shutdown and restart the computer as well.
When it happens I give the program three chances to connect to the mail server if not I shutdown and restart 
the mail program - that usually works for me.

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Re: When opening a page, it reloads to a blank page

[David E. Ross]

On 10/8/2013 12:42 PM, Rex wrote:
> Seen this quite a few times on 2.21 and 2.19 as well, on 64-bit Windows 
> 8. While opening a page - Google search results mostly, and other pages 
> as well (imdb.com as of this post) - the entire page loads, then 
> suddenly appears to reload, and I end up with a blank page. Refreshing 
> the site only repeats the behavior.
> Have turned off Adblock Plus, but got the same result.
> 
> 
> -
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> -
> 

Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.21

I do not see this problem even with AdblockPlus (and other extensions)
enabled.  If you update to 2.21 and still see the problem, it might be
related to Windows 8.

-- 
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On occasion, I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam, flames, and trolling from that source.
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Re: LastPass addon ...

[Cecil Bankston]

LastPass works normally in my SeaMonkey 2.23.

Peter Anton wrote:

LastPass addon hasn't worked since SM ver. 1.15.1.  I'dlike to upgrade
SM but I like LPso I haven't yet. Last time this happened, it was ironed
out a short time after SM's 1.15.1 version came out. I don't know which
app to blame; all I know is that SM reports that LP is incompatible.
Anyone using LastPass password vault and having problems or finding
solutions?



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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Geoff Welsh]

Larry S. wrote:

..



Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
...

Larry S.


since the filter defs start with "When Checking mail" not "when checking 
news" I didn't think it could possibly work on newsgroups and was only 
in there as a bug.


I just tried it, I'll know tomorrow if it works (same guy posts every 
day about religion in alt.autos.toyota)


GW
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Re: Problems with email program

[Geoff Welsh]

Kim Clancy wrote:

Yesterday evening my email program stopped retrieving incoming emails
and when I click on 'Get Messages' the following is what comes up:

"Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server mail.bellsouth.net
responded: Service is not available; please try again later. (#MBR1236)"

.


That says it all.  Try again later.

IME, 100% of the time, it is always the ISP having a problem.  If it 
happens a lot, get a gmail address as a back-up for the ISP's bad days.


GW
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Re: Message Filters In Web Based Accounts ???

[Dennis]

Geoff Welsh wrote:
> Larry S. wrote:
>> ..
>>>
>> Hmmm . . . I see "Delete" as a choice when filtering news groups. I
>> don't usually use it, but have tested it and it seems to work just fine.
>> ...
>>
>> Larry S.
> 
> since the filter defs start with "When Checking mail" not "when checking 
> news" I didn't think it could possibly work on newsgroups and was only 
> in there as a bug.
> 
> I just tried it, I'll know tomorrow if it works (same guy posts every 
> day about religion in alt.autos.toyota)
> 
> GW
> 

No doubt about it, filters, specifically delete, work in news. I have a
delete filter set for several posters in .general that I do not wish to
read. If it doesn't work for you then something is broke. Or possibly a
platform problem.

Dennis

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Re: When opening a page, it reloads to a blank page

[Rex]

On 09-Oct-2013 05:43, David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/8/2013 12:42 PM, Rex wrote:

Seen this quite a few times on 2.21 and 2.19 as well, on 64-bit Windows
8. While opening a page - Google search results mostly, and other pages
as well (imdb.com as of this post) - the entire page loads, then
suddenly appears to reload, and I end up with a blank page. Refreshing
the site only repeats the behavior.
Have turned off Adblock Plus, but got the same result.


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Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.21

I do not see this problem even with AdblockPlus (and other extensions)
enabled.  If you update to 2.21 and still see the problem, it might be
related to Windows 8.



I've been using Windows 8 since it was released (and Seamonkey since 
long before that), and this problem has only appeared recently.




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