Re: Seamonkey newsgroup Compose From: field

[Rick Merrill]

On 12/27/2015 6:41 PM, Me wrote:

Seamonkey v2.39 newsgroup Compose: window, From: field

Seems to be an unwritten law that a space is mandatory between the
poster's name and the eMail address.  Sillyness.

e.g.  this get messed with
   Me
results in
posters name as
   M

where
   Me 
results in
posters name as
   Me

I would think that the < would be a sufficient delimiter.


Agreed!  But THANK  YOU for pointing out the space need because I was 
frustrated when trying to edit an address manually and I omitted the 
space thus loosing the corrections I had just made!


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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

[Ant]

On 12/30/2015 6:30 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/29/2015 10:53 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Firefox 43 has been out for a bit, and has even gotten three point
upgrades but I haven't seen any mention of a Seamonkey update.  Is the
Build Engine broken again?



FWIW, I tested Thunderbird 38.5.1 on Linux yesterday, haven't seen a
development build since Dec. 15th though.

I understand SeaMonkey is skipping 2.40 beta and are supposed to go to a
2.40 release, but one of the developers was unavailable due to a medical
problem and still a bit hobbled.

 From IRC logs.

ewongMc I'm currently stalled on getting 2.40 released.. I'm very
sorry.




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Re: Blocked images in email

[Rick Merrill]

On 12/29/2015 11:57 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

I receive a periodic HTML email newsletter from my investment advisor's
firm.  I used to see the graphics but no longer can, not even in old
emails going back to 2013.  I only see empty boxes.

The person sending the newsletter uses mailchimp.com and the images
reside on their server. The email itself comes from a different mail
server.

Oddly, in Thunderbird I see the images.

I can't figure out why SM is blocking them and TB is not.  Any help
greatly appreciated.



I find that some (but not all) images appear IF and only if I am also 
logged into the originating web page.

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Re: Future of Thunderbird / Seamonkey mail module

[Gerry Hickman]

David E. Ross wrote:

There are other differences.  I think the user interface for SeaMonkey
is far superior to the UI for Firefox.  Also, some user tailoring
capabilities that have been removed from Firefox still exist in SeaMonkey.


Although many people use web based email (cloud based email), I'd say 
SeaMonkey is more important than ever for those who want to continue to 
use POP3, especially if Mozilla drop Thuderbird.


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Re: support

[Paul B. Gallagher]

pedro wrote:


When we sail with SeaMonkey it does not come pre-configured to browse
computers in Brazil. Why does it happen? The community could change
this? It is a safe and fast browser, but the setup is difficult.
Windows 7 does not allow the SeaMonkey work properly.


Exactly what happens when you try to "browse computers in Brazil"? Is 
there an error message, a blank page, what?


I've been running SeaMonkey on Windows 7 for a couple of years, and 
browsing websites all over the world without a problem.


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Re: Blocked images in email

[Ed Mullen]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 12/30/2015 6:08 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 12/29/2015 11:13 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/29/2015 10:16 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:


WaltS48 wrote on 12/29/2015 2:09 PM:

 >

Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Images >
Image Acceptance Policy


Nope, that ain't it.


Next places to look:

1) Ad blocker?



Ad Block Plus, I'll check.


Actually, ABP is not installed.




2) Firewall? (many of those include spam blockers that can be
mistuned)



ZoneAlarm Pro, I'll check.


Disabled both, no difference.



But those are system level and should affect both SM and TB equally.

Any other guesses?


How is SM when started in "safe mode"?



Well I should have tried that before.  In Safe Mode the images are
viewable.  However, if
start normally, go to the Add-ons Manager and manually disable all
extensions and
plug-ins, then restart, the images are NOT visible!  WTFO?


:)  Time to time consumingly add one add-on at a time.
Let us know which one is the culprit.



Uh, read my post again.  ALL of the add-ons were manually disabled and 
the images were NOT visible.  Adding them back one-at-a-time isn't going 
to do anything.


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Re: support

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 31.12.2015 15:27, pedro wrote:

When we sail with SeaMonkey it does not come pre-configured to browse computers 
in Brazil.



Hello,

I haven't a clue what you are talking about.

Please simply report a bug 
 considering 
; 
then we iwll see what has bo be done.


Best Regards

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(SeaMonkey QA volunteer)
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Re: Blocked images in email

[Gerry Hickman]

Ed Mullen wrote:

I receive a periodic HTML email newsletter from my investment advisor's
firm.  I used to see the graphics but no longer can, not even in old
emails going back to 2013.  I only see empty boxes.

The person sending the newsletter uses mailchimp.com and the images
reside on their server. The email itself comes from a different mail
server.

Oddly, in Thunderbird I see the images.

I can't figure out why SM is blocking them and TB is not.  Any help
greatly appreciated.


I'm sure you know this already, but SM and Microsoft Outlook block 
remote images by default. In SM you should see a bar at the top of the 
email explaining that remote content has been blocked - you can then use 
the options on that header bar to allow the images, and as others 
mentioned, you can also turn it off in the prefs. The other setting that 
might affect this is "view : message body as", where you can choose 
plain text, simple HTML, full HTML. It could also be that the remote 
content has been removed since the mail was sent? You could check this 
by getting the image URL and pasting it in to the browser URL bar and 
see if it works.


If you don't have the "blocked" header bar above the email, and the 
images are still missing, it could be something else.


In general, I recommend the SM defaults where you have to manually 
approve the remote images for each HTML email - much safer, or you could 
set it to only allow plain text (like me).


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Re: support

[WaltS48]

On 12/31/2015 09:27 AM, pedro wrote:

When we sail with SeaMonkey it does not come pre-configured to browse computers 
in Brazil. Why does it happen? The community could change this? It is a safe 
and fast browser, but the setup is difficult. Windows 7 does not allow the 
SeaMonkey work properly.
Regards,
Ribamar



Are you using the Portuguese (Portugal) version from 
 ?


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Re: Auto-Update "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey..."

[Gerry Hickman]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

My recollection is 2.35, but either way, the point is you have to
install one update manually to get past the certificate issue, and from
then on auto updates will work again.


I was able to visit over the holidays, and the new SM is now installed 
and working. It turns out that it could have been done without admin 
rights anyway; I must have originally installed it "per user" and that's 
why the updates had been working for over five years.


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Re: support

[Ray_Net]

pedro wrote on 31/12/2015 15:27:

When we sail with SeaMonkey it does not come pre-configured to browse computers 
in Brazil. Why does it happen? The community could change this? It is a safe 
and fast browser, but the setup is difficult. Windows 7 does not allow the 
SeaMonkey work properly.
Regards,
Ribamar

What is "browse computers in Brazil" ?
A browser browse web pages located on a web server.
I cannot browe a computer 
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Re: support

[Ed Mullen]

Ray_Net wrote on 12/31/2015 10:52 AM:

pedro wrote on 31/12/2015 15:27:

When we sail with SeaMonkey it does not come pre-configured to browse
computers in Brazil. Why does it happen? The community could change
this? It is a safe and fast browser, but the setup is difficult.
Windows 7 does not allow the SeaMonkey work properly.
Regards,
Ribamar

What is "browse computers in Brazil" ?
A browser browse web pages located on a web server.
I cannot browe a computer 


Actually, a browser can browse HTML/Web pages stored locally an a PC. 
No Internet involved.  No server involved.  In Windows try opening 
Windows Explorer and locating an HTML file.  Double-click it.  Your 
default browser should open and display the file.


If you save an entire Web site locally and the pages are all HTML, you 
can browse that "site" locally with no Internet connection.  I used to 
do it all the time with my sites when I named everything *.html.  I have 
since changed to *.php files.  To browse those locally-stored sites 
requires a local server.  Still, no need for Internet.


However, I'm still not clear on the OP's dilemma.  The language (or 
other) gap is in the way.


He might resend it again in Portuguese so we can parse it through Google 
translate.  Hmm.  Maybe he already did that.


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Re: Blocked images in email

[Ed Mullen]

Gerry Hickman wrote on 12/31/2015 10:55 AM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

I receive a periodic HTML email newsletter from my investment advisor's
firm.  I used to see the graphics but no longer can, not even in old
emails going back to 2013.  I only see empty boxes.

The person sending the newsletter uses mailchimp.com and the images
reside on their server. The email itself comes from a different mail
server.

Oddly, in Thunderbird I see the images.

I can't figure out why SM is blocking them and TB is not.  Any help
greatly appreciated.


I'm sure you know this already, but SM and Microsoft Outlook block
remote images by default. In SM you should see a bar at the top of the
email explaining that remote content has been blocked - you can then use
the options on that header bar to allow the images, and as others
mentioned, you can also turn it off in the prefs. The other setting that
might affect this is "view : message body as", where you can choose
plain text, simple HTML, full HTML. It could also be that the remote
content has been removed since the mail was sent? You could check this
by getting the image URL and pasting it in to the browser URL bar and
see if it works.

If you don't have the "blocked" header bar above the email, and the
images are still missing, it could be something else.

In general, I recommend the SM defaults where you have to manually
approve the remote images for each HTML email - much safer, or you could
set it to only allow plain text (like me).



Appreciate the effort, Gerry.  Tried all that to no avail.  Finally 
created a new profile.  Okay now.


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Re: Blocked images in email

[Ed Mullen]

Ray_Net wrote on 12/31/2015 7:42 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote on 29/12/2015 17:57:

I receive a periodic HTML email newsletter from my investment
advisor's firm.  I used to see the graphics but no longer can, not
even in old emails going back to 2013.  I only see empty boxes.

The person sending the newsletter uses mailchimp.com and the images
reside on their server. The email itself comes from a different mail
server.

Oddly, in Thunderbird I see the images.

I can't figure out why SM is blocking them and TB is not.  Any help
greatly appreciated.


Remote content blocked for me TOO but:
1. I have an "Options" button
2. I can see the image when I do "reply" ... strange ...


Thanks, Ray.  Hmm, I blew away the problem profile so I can't check 
that.  But doing a new profile fixed it.


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Re: Blocked images in email

[Ed Mullen]

Ed Mullen wrote on 12/31/2015 8:14 PM:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 12/31/2015 2:02 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Uh, read my post again.  ALL of the add-ons were manually disabled and
the images were NOT
visible.  Adding them back one-at-a-time isn't going to do anything.


Oh, I see.  Not an add on then.
Something in basic SM settings instead.



I should add that in Safe Mode everything was good.  So what's the 
difference between Safe Mode and manually disabling all extensions and 
plugins and running in regular mode?  What else is Safe Mode doing?


Because whatever it is that fixed the issue and manually disabling 
add-ons did not.  I'd like to know because migrating to a new profile in 
a case like this is not trivial and I know what I'm doing.  I'd dread 
talking someone else through it.  I've got a couple of dozen email and 
news accounts and lots of custom settings.  I've kind of got it down to 
a science of copying and pasting account settings from the old profile's 
prefs.js to the new one but it's not what I'd call "fun."


I even went so far as to use about:config in SM and TB side-by-side to 
try and find any relevant settings differences and finally gave up.


Oh, well.  Problem solved with new profile.  No wonder we see that 
answer here so often.




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Re: Blocked images in email

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 29/12/2015 17:57:
I receive a periodic HTML email newsletter from my investment 
advisor's firm.  I used to see the graphics but no longer can, not 
even in old emails going back to 2013.  I only see empty boxes.


The person sending the newsletter uses mailchimp.com and the images 
reside on their server. The email itself comes from a different mail 
server.


Oddly, in Thunderbird I see the images.

I can't figure out why SM is blocking them and TB is not.  Any help 
greatly appreciated.



Remote content blocked for me TOO but:
1. I have an "Options" button
2. I can see the image when I do "reply" ... strange ...
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.39 Release Notes mention beta 1.

[Rick Merrill]

On 11/8/2015 8:53 PM, Ant wrote:

More extreme than the platypus which looks like a collection of leftover
parts?


That's how humans look to the platypus!-)
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Re: Seamonkey newsgroup Compose From: field

[Ant]

On 12/31/2015 4:51 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

On 12/27/2015 6:41 PM, Me wrote:

Seamonkey v2.39 newsgroup Compose: window, From: field

Seems to be an unwritten law that a space is mandatory between the
poster's name and the eMail address.  Sillyness.

e.g.  this get messed with
   Me
results in
posters name as
   M

where
   Me 
results in
posters name as
   Me

I would think that the < would be a sufficient delimiter.


Agreed!  But THANK  YOU for pointing out the space need because I was
frustrated when trying to edit an address manually and I omitted the
space thus loosing the corrections I had just made!


That's an interesting bug.
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Re: Blocked images in email

[Ed Mullen]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 12/31/2015 2:02 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Uh, read my post again.  ALL of the add-ons were manually disabled and
the images were NOT
visible.  Adding them back one-at-a-time isn't going to do anything.


Oh, I see.  Not an add on then.
Something in basic SM settings instead.



No idea.  Got tired of screwing around with it and created a new 
profile.  Migrated all my essential mail/news accounts and prefs and all 
is (for the time being) well.


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Re: Which SeaMonkey ?

[Daniel]

On 1/01/2016 2:39 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I have been messaging on this News Group about problems with SM and
Windows XP and quite a few of those here 'suggested' (lol) that I
upgrade to a higher version of Windows.  I had to buy a newer computer -
which I just did - a used one with Windows 7 which I can get upgraded to
Windows 10 should I choose.

So - should I stay with Win 7 (which the Computer Store vendor suggests)
or go to Windows 10 (free upgrade).

If I stay with Windows 7 - is any particular SM version better with 7 ?
If I go for Windows 10, is there a better SM version for THAT !?

I understand that going for Windows 10 means that I HAVE to let
Microsoft get into my pants 100%
I was told you HAVE to give them access to everything you do on that
computer to even use the program. User agreement.

DoctorBill

DoctorBill, I've read of several people reverting to Win 7 after trying 
Win10, but my sister (whom I'm sitting next to ATT) was auto-updated fro 
Win8.1 to Win 10 and she has no complaints. Maybe her needs are fairly 
simple (I think Facebook is about all she does!).


When you make your OS decision, just install the latest version of SM 
available. I read somewhere here-abouts that SM2.40 could be out soon!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Which SeaMonkey ?

[DoctorBill]

I have been messaging on this News Group about 
problems with SM and Windows XP and quite a few of 
those here 'suggested' (lol) that I upgrade to a 
higher version of Windows.  I had to buy a newer 
computer - which I just did - a used one with 
Windows 7 which I can get upgraded to Windows 10 
should I choose.


So - should I stay with Win 7 (which the Computer 
Store vendor suggests) or go to Windows 10 (free 
upgrade).


If I stay with Windows 7 - is any particular SM 
version better with 7 ?
If I go for Windows 10, is there a better SM 
version for THAT !?


I understand that going for Windows 10 means that 
I HAVE to let Microsoft get into my pants 100%
I was told you HAVE to give them access to 
everything you do on that computer to even use the 
program. User agreement.


DoctorBill

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