Re: Backing up SM stuff

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


"The mail files are placed in the profile tree by default, but are not
part of the profile.  Prefs, which is part of the profile, points to
them and you can place them anywhere. "

What part of "Preferences" is that choice located.
Pref for the Main Browser   orfor Mail & Newgroups ?


Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.

Under "Server Settings" for the account in question, look at the bottom
of the pane for "Local directory:"

If it's not what you want, enter the correct path.


How about forming a directory like this so I can find it much later after
I have forgotten ALL THIS STUFF ?!

C:\SeaMonkey\Important STUFF

I ought to remember what THAT is in six monthslol

DB


Did it.

Files being added.
I'll report back tomorrow.

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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[DoctorBill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


"The mail files are placed in the profile tree by default, but are not
part of the profile.  Prefs, which is part of the profile, points to
them and you can place them anywhere. "

What part of "Preferences" is that choice located.
Pref for the Main Browser   orfor Mail & Newgroups ?


Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.

Under "Server Settings" for the account in question, look at the bottom
of the pane for "Local directory:"

If it's not what you want, enter the correct path.


How about forming a directory like this so I can find it much later after
I have forgotten ALL THIS STUFF ?!

C:\SeaMonkey\Important STUFF

I ought to remember what THAT is in six monthslol

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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[DoctorBill]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2017-09-14 8:51 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 14-09-17 06:09:

Ray_Net wrote:

Perhaps your profile is somewhere else ... or your SM did not
contain at
least one password ...(I have only 3 passwords)


I have only a C:\ Drive !   Then A D:\ cd-DVD rom.

I have MANY passwords !


Are you able to look "everywhere" on your disk ?
Is this option "Show hidden files,folders, disk" set ?


If that is the problem, i don't know how to address it !

Windows 7 is an enigma sometimes...


In SeaMonkey, go to Help > Troubleshooting Information.
Under the Application Basics section, click on "Show Folder". A window
with your profile folder will open.


Thank you !

Here are the "directions" at the top of the page:

▼ Computer ▼ Local Disc (C:)  ▼  Users  ▼   Pc   ▼  AppData  ▼   Roaming 
 ▼  Mozilla  ▼

SeaMonkey  ▼  Profiles  ▼   .default

 All one line.  Windows 7   SM  2.46

Complex huh? - and I am supposed to find THAT !?

Thank you !

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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[DoctorBill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


Are you able to look "everywhere" on your disk ?
Is this option "Show hidden files,folders, disk" set ?


If that is the problem, i don't know how to address it !

Windows 7 is an enigma sometimes...


Not hard if you know how:

In Windows Explorer, choose Organize | Folder and search options.

On the "View" tab, under "Hidden files and folders," choose "Show hidden
files, folders, and drives."

Done.


THAT was what was toggled..should have shown them then !

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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-09-14 8:51 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 14-09-17 06:09:

Ray_Net wrote:
Perhaps your profile is somewhere else ... or your SM did not 
contain at

least one password ...(I have only 3 passwords)


I have only a C:\ Drive !   Then A D:\ cd-DVD rom.

I have MANY passwords !


Are you able to look "everywhere" on your disk ?
Is this option "Show hidden files,folders, disk" set ?


If that is the problem, i don't know how to address it !

Windows 7 is an enigma sometimes...


In SeaMonkey, go to Help > Troubleshooting Information.
Under the Application Basics section, click on "Show Folder". A window 
with your profile folder will open.


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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Paul B. Gallagher]

DoctorBill wrote:


"The mail files are placed in the profile tree by default, but are not
part of the profile.  Prefs, which is part of the profile, points to
them and you can place them anywhere. "

What part of "Preferences" is that choice located.
Pref for the Main Browser   orfor Mail & Newgroups ?


Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.

Under "Server Settings" for the account in question, look at the bottom 
of the pane for "Local directory:"


If it's not what you want, enter the correct path.

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Re: Chase problems - again

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Desiree wrote:

On 9/14/2017 4:22 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Desiree wrote:


Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So,
I used User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user
agent. That got me further but only to the screen where Chase
says it doesn't recognize the user's computer and you have to
request a temporary ID code. I did that but Chase just flipped me
to the main Chase page asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and
SeaMonkey? Is there a better user agent than the one I tried?


When a site login says it "doesn't recognize" your computer, that
generally means it's looking for the cookie it left at your last
session and can't find it. I get the same stupid $#!+ from Google
because I clear cookies frequently (and always at the end of a
browser session), so they make me jump through all kinds of hoops
to read my damn Gmail. And the failed login requiring you to start
over is a strong clue that cookies are not being accepted.

So check your cookie handling options (in the browser: Tools |
Cookie Manager...). If it says "Block Cookies from This Website,"
that's the problem. If it says "Use Default Cookie Permissions,"
check what your defaults are at Edit | Preferences | Privacy &
Security | Cookies.


I was using Session cookies only and default for all sites is to
block all cookies but I was getting cookies from Chase Online website
because I had changed the permissions for it to accept Session
Cookies.

Chase was flipping me over to Chase.com though instead of logging me
in on Chase Online.  I did have Chase.com set to block cookies
because I never go there as I login directly to the credit card via
Chase Online (unless there is a problem like now). So, I changed
permissions for Chase.com to accept Session cookies and now I am
getting a message from Chase that says the browser is outdated. That
is the message I get with Pale Moon but I think on Pale Moon it may
be because "general.useragent.override.chase.com" shows the string as
Fx 31!  But on SeaMonkey there is no user agent override for chase
in about:config so I don't know why I am now getting that the browser
is outdated.

I deleted all cookies for Chase, restarted SeaMonkey and tried again
with this string "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:40.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/40.0" using User Agent Switcher.  I got
further into login and got to the screen where one is asked for a
user ID code sent to your email, phone, etc.  So, I got the code, put
it in and instead of getting logged in, I got flipped to Chase main
web page with a login box in the upper right corner.  At least I
didn't get the message that SeaMonkey is an outdated browser since
Chase thinks I am using Fx 40.

I'm sick of it.


I don't blame you.

Maybe someone else will have a better answer.

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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Paul B. Gallagher]

DoctorBill wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


Are you able to look "everywhere" on your disk ?
Is this option "Show hidden files,folders, disk" set ?


If that is the problem, i don't know how to address it !

Windows 7 is an enigma sometimes...


Not hard if you know how:

In Windows Explorer, choose Organize | Folder and search options.

On the "View" tab, under "Hidden files and folders," choose "Show hidden 
files, folders, and drives."


Done.

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Re: Chase problems - again

[Desiree]

On 9/14/2017 4:22 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Desiree wrote:


Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I
used User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.
That got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it
doesn't recognize the user's computer and you have to request a
temporary ID code. I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main
Chase page asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?
Is there a better user agent than the one I tried?


When a site login says it "doesn't recognize" your computer, that
generally means it's looking for the cookie it left at your last session
and can't find it. I get the same stupid $#!+ from Google because I
clear cookies frequently (and always at the end of a browser session),
so they make me jump through all kinds of hoops to read my damn Gmail.
And the failed login requiring you to start over is a strong clue that
cookies are not being accepted.

So check your cookie handling options (in the browser: Tools | Cookie
Manager...). If it says "Block Cookies from This Website," that's the
problem. If it says "Use Default Cookie Permissions," check what your
defaults are at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies.

I was using Session cookies only and default for all sites is to block 
all cookies but I was getting cookies from Chase Online website because 
I had changed the permissions for it to accept Session Cookies.


Chase was flipping me over to Chase.com though instead of logging me in 
on Chase Online.  I did have Chase.com set to block cookies because I 
never go there as I login directly to the credit card via Chase Online 
(unless there is a problem like now).
So, I changed permissions for Chase.com to accept Session cookies and 
now I am getting a message from Chase that says the browser is outdated. 
 That is the message I get with Pale Moon but I think on Pale Moon it 
may be because "general.useragent.override.chase.com" shows the string 
as Fx 31!  But on SeaMonkey there is no user agent override for chase in 
about:config so I don't know why I am now getting that the browser is 
outdated.


I deleted all cookies for Chase, restarted SeaMonkey and tried again 
with this string "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:40.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/40.0" using User Agent Switcher.  I got further 
into login and got to the screen where one is asked for a user ID code 
sent to your email, phone, etc.  So, I got the code, put it in and 
instead of getting logged in, I got flipped to Chase main web page with 
a login box in the upper right corner.  At least I didn't get the 
message that SeaMonkey is an outdated browser since Chase thinks I am 
using Fx 40.


I'm sick of it.
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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[DoctorBill]

"The mail files are placed in the profile tree by default, but are not 
part of the profile.  Prefs, which is part of the profile, points to 
them and you can place them anywhere. "


What part of "Preferences" is that choice located.
Pref for the Main Browser   orfor Mail & Newgroups ?

DB

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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[DoctorBill]

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 14-09-17 06:09:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 14-09-17 00:42:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 13-09-17 23:11:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 9/13/2017 at 1:21 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital
genius:

I just backed up my Bookmarks to a Thumb Drive - there is a backup
choice under "tools"
in the Bookmarks manager to do that.

I have four "Address Books".
How can I back those up to a Thumbdrive ?
Do I use "Export" ?
If so, do I Export each of the four Address Books ?

How about backing up the Passwords ?

DoctorBill  using SM 2.46


Address books - copy the *.mab files in your profile

Passwords - copy the signons.sqlite file in your profile




I found the ,mab file.
Cannot find any signons.sqlite file - even tried searching the C:\
drive.
No luck !


Mine is here:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default\signons.sqlite




Mine does not.  Even Search didn't find it on C:\
? ? ?


Perhaps your profile is somewhere else ... or your SM did not contain at
least one password ...(I have only 3 passwords)


I have only a C:\ Drive !   Then A D:\ cd-DVD rom.

I have MANY passwords !

DB


Are you able to look "everywhere" on your disk ?
Is this option "Show hidden files,folders, disk" set ?


If that is the problem, i don't know how to address it !

Windows 7 is an enigma sometimes...

DB
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Re: Chase problems - again

[Desiree]

On 9/14/2017 4:10 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Desiree wrote:


On 9/14/2017 1:07 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: than the one I tried?

I just logged in with no problem. See my UA for what I use


Why did I just get a Message Security from Thunderbird when I clicked
to reply to you?

I don't see your UA.


CTRL-U on his message to see the full headers:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48

I didn't notice that I needed to scroll down to see all the headers.  I 
see it now.  The UA I am using is exactly the same except not Windows 10 
but Windows NT 6.2.

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Re: Chase problems - again

[Desiree]

On 9/14/2017 4:50 AM, Mason83 wrote:

On 14/09/2017 15:40, Desiree wrote:

On 9/14/2017 1:03 AM, Mason83 wrote:

On 14/09/2017 12:18, Desiree wrote:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


Maybe you can try with an actual FF account.
If that works, try spoofing the same UA in SM?


I spent over an hour last night with Chase (three different agents
purported to be from Chase's online support) and they were of no help
with Firefox (I have Fx 45.9 ESR and Chase accepts Fx from ver 37 up)
and no help with Pale Moon or SeaMonkey.


Does the site work or not with FF 45 ESR?
BTW, you should probably try with FF 52 ESR

It worked with Fx 45.9 ESR once I created a brand new profile with NO 
extensions, no modifications of preferences.

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MS EOD 15 w/ICE

[Vegas Jack]

Hi Roy,

Sorry to bother you but there is no one I trust more than you when it 
comes to MetaStock. with the latest update to Windows 10 Home 64 bit 
version 1703 OS Build 15063.540 my MS EOD 11 stopped working. I chatted 
on the phone with Equis and finally found out it was my TradeSim dll. It 
works fine now but I don't know how much longer that will be the case.


My question you is it worth updating to version 15. I never updated 
because I couldn't use my own data and convert it to MS data with the 
Downloader. According to Equis I can do that with version 15. If that is 
the case is the offer they gave of $249 for MS EOD 15 with ICE included.


I know you don't owe me an answer but I respect your knowledge and once 
again thank you for all the information and programming I purchased from 
you. I do hope that retirement is agreeing with you.


It turns out getting old doesn't pay, going for cataract surgery tomorrow.

Thanks in advance,

Alvan J Hilker
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Re: Chase problems - again

[Mark B]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 9/14/2017 at 6:18 AM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


I have no trouble logging in with SM 2.48 if I set the Firefox user 
agent BEFORE I go to the site.  Using User Agent Switcher.





No problems logging in to chase.com. SM 64 bit 2.51

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.51

Build identifier: 20170619085306
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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 14-09-17 06:09:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 14-09-17 00:42:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 13-09-17 23:11:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 9/13/2017 at 1:21 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital
genius:

I just backed up my Bookmarks to a Thumb Drive - there is a backup
choice under "tools"
in the Bookmarks manager to do that.

I have four "Address Books".
How can I back those up to a Thumbdrive ?
Do I use "Export" ?
If so, do I Export each of the four Address Books ?

How about backing up the Passwords ?

DoctorBill  using SM 2.46


Address books - copy the *.mab files in your profile

Passwords - copy the signons.sqlite file in your profile




I found the ,mab file.
Cannot find any signons.sqlite file - even tried searching the C:\
drive.
No luck !


Mine is here:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default\signons.sqlite 





Mine does not.  Even Search didn't find it on C:\
? ? ?


Perhaps your profile is somewhere else ... or your SM did not contain at
least one password ...(I have only 3 passwords)


I have only a C:\ Drive !   Then A D:\ cd-DVD rom.

I have MANY passwords !

DB


Are you able to look "everywhere" on your disk ?
Is this option "Show hidden files,folders, disk" set ?
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Re: Chase problems - again

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/14/2017 at 6:18 AM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


I have no trouble logging in with SM 2.48 if I set the Firefox user 
agent BEFORE I go to the site.  Using User Agent Switcher.




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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/13/2017 at 4:34 PM, rjkrjk created this epitome of digital genius:

just use MOZBACKUP,   you can select what you want backed up real
convenient



DoctorBill wrote on 9/13/17 1:21 PM:

I just backed up my Bookmarks to a Thumb Drive - there is a backup
choice under "tools"
in the Bookmarks manager to do that.

I have four "Address Books".
How can I back those up to a Thumbdrive ?
Do I use "Export" ?
If so, do I Export each of the four Address Books ?

How about backing up the Passwords ?

DoctorBill  using SM 2.46

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My understanding is it has been abandoned and no longer is in development.

You really should be backing up the entire drive on a regular basis as 
someone else has suggested. I use TODO Backup. There is a free version.




My C:\ and G:\ drives automatically backup nightly when I'm not using 
the PC. The other PCs backup weekly on a staggered schedule. The entire 
drive or individual file(s) can be restored very easily using Windows 
Explorer.


My backup are stored on a 1Tb USB drive.  One in the bank box and I swap 
them out periodically.


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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Ray Davison]

DoctorBill wrote:
I just backed up my Bookmarks to a Thumb Drive - there is a backup 
choice under "tools" in the Bookmarks manager to do that.


A lot of things can happen to the profile data files.  I recently had a 
situation where the data files were being deleted.


The mail files are placed in the profile tree by default, but are not 
part of the profile.  Prefs, which is part of the profile, points to 
them and you can place them anywhere.  If you get the mail out of the 
profile tree what is left of the profile is easy to manage.


I have a bat file on the desktop that uses XCOPY to update the entire 
profile to whatever location(s) I chose.  After I close SM, one click 
and the profiles are saved.


Ray
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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[David E. Ross]

On 9/13/2017 9:18 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Chris Ilias wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-09-13 5:11 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:

 Address books - copy the *.mab files in your profile

 Passwords - copy the signons.sqlite file in your profile
>>>
>>> I found the ,mab file. Cannot find any signons.sqlite file - even
>>> tried searching the C:\ drive. No luck !
>>
>> Ed's data is out of date.
>> To back up passwords, you need to copy key3.db and logins.json.
>> For more information, see
>> 
> 
> I have all three files on my SM 2.46. Do you mean to say that 
> signons.sqlite is no longer in use, can be ignored/deleted? After what 
> version was it abandoned? I see the modification date for my 
> signons.sqlite is 10/2/2014.
> 

In my primary profile, signons.sqlite was last updated only two days ago
(12 Sep 2017).

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Yes, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and other
"founding fathers" owned slaves.  However, they created
a nation.  Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, Thomas
"Stonewall" Jackson and other "heroes" of the
Confederacy tried to tear the nation apart.  Statues
and other monuments to those "heroes" of the
Confederacy actually celebrate traitors and treason.

See my .
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Re: Chase problems - again

[Mason83]

On 14/09/2017 15:40, Desiree wrote:
> On 9/14/2017 1:03 AM, Mason83 wrote:
>> On 14/09/2017 12:18, Desiree wrote:
>>> Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
>>> User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
>>> got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
>>> recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
>>> code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
>>> asking for login again.
>>>
>>> Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
>>> there a better user agent than the one I tried?
>>
>> Maybe you can try with an actual FF account.
>> If that works, try spoofing the same UA in SM?
>
> I spent over an hour last night with Chase (three different agents 
> purported to be from Chase's online support) and they were of no help 
> with Firefox (I have Fx 45.9 ESR and Chase accepts Fx from ver 37 up) 
> and no help with Pale Moon or SeaMonkey.

Does the site work or not with FF 45 ESR?
BTW, you should probably try with FF 52 ESR
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Re: Chase problems - again

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Desiree wrote:


Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I
used User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.
That got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it
doesn't recognize the user's computer and you have to request a
temporary ID code. I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main
Chase page asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?
Is there a better user agent than the one I tried?


When a site login says it "doesn't recognize" your computer, that 
generally means it's looking for the cookie it left at your last session 
and can't find it. I get the same stupid $#!+ from Google because I 
clear cookies frequently (and always at the end of a browser session), 
so they make me jump through all kinds of hoops to read my damn Gmail. 
And the failed login requiring you to start over is a strong clue that 
cookies are not being accepted.


So check your cookie handling options (in the browser: Tools | Cookie 
Manager...). If it says "Block Cookies from This Website," that's the 
problem. If it says "Use Default Cookie Permissions," check what your 
defaults are at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies.


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Re: Chase problems - again

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Desiree wrote:


On 9/14/2017 1:07 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: than the one I tried?

I just logged in with no problem. See my UA for what I use


Why did I just get a Message Security from Thunderbird when I clicked
to reply to you?

I don't see your UA.


CTRL-U on his message to see the full headers:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48


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Re: Chase problems - again

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/14/2017 08:52 AM, Desiree wrote:

On 9/14/2017 1:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/14/2017 05:18 AM, Desiree wrote:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


I doubt the problem is SeaMonkey.
I have noticed a number of complaints here in the past few months of
people having problems with sites of {for want of a better term - "mass
market sites"}. I'd take my business elsewhere - did that with Chase
decades ago over different problem but with likely similar root causes.



There's a long, long history of problems with Chase and SeaMonkey and
other browsers but especially SeaMonkey.

I've had a Chase credit card since before Chase even had online
presence.  It is my only card with a FIXED APR at a low rate (lowest of
all my cards) and high credit limit.  So, not one I can walk away from.
 I would do so with other cards whose websites gave me problems, but,
ironically, only Chase has a history, from the beginning of their online
presence, of giving many users headaches with various browsers.


It was their credit card incompetency which caused me to go elsewhere in 
the early 80's.



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Re: Chase problems - again

[Desiree]

On 9/14/2017 1:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/14/2017 05:18 AM, Desiree wrote:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


I doubt the problem is SeaMonkey.
I have noticed a number of complaints here in the past few months of
people having problems with sites of {for want of a better term - "mass
market sites"}. I'd take my business elsewhere - did that with Chase
decades ago over different problem but with likely similar root causes.


There's a long, long history of problems with Chase and SeaMonkey and 
other browsers but especially SeaMonkey.


I've had a Chase credit card since before Chase even had online 
presence.  It is my only card with a FIXED APR at a low rate (lowest of 
all my cards) and high credit limit.  So, not one I can walk away from. 
 I would do so with other cards whose websites gave me problems, but, 
ironically, only Chase has a history, from the beginning of their online 
presence, of giving many users headaches with various browsers.

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Re: Chase problems - again

[Desiree]

On 9/14/2017 1:03 AM, Mason83 wrote:

On 14/09/2017 12:18, Desiree wrote:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


Maybe you can try with an actual FF account.
If that works, try spoofing the same UA in SM?

Regards

I spent over an hour last night with Chase (three different agents 
purported to be from Chase's online support) and they were of no help 
with Firefox (I have Fx 45.9 ESR and Chase accepts Fx from ver 37 up) 
and no help with Pale Moon or SeaMonkey.

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Re: Chase problems - again

[Desiree]

On 9/14/2017 1:07 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Desiree wrote:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used User 
Agent Switcher and
faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That got me further but only to the 
screen where Chase says
it doesn't recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID 
code.  I did that
but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is there a 
better user agent
than the one I tried?

I just logged in with no problem. See my UA for what I use



Why did I just get a Message Security from Thunderbird when I clicked to 
reply to you?


I don't see your UA.
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Re: American Express web site not working properly with SM 2.48

[David H. Durgee]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Today the American Express web site stopped working for me with SM 2.48
here.  I see the base web site fine:

https://www.americanexpress.com/

But when I logon to my account it goes to this page:

https://global.americanexpress.com/dashboard

This page does NOT display.  I have tried this both with the actual UA
and with the Firefox 51 UA and neither loads this page.

I went to Firefox itself and the web site worked properly.  This is
Firefox 55.0.2 (64 bit) on linux mint 17.3 x64.

Anyone else having a problem with American Express?

Dave


Must have been a one-time problem, it is working today.

Dave
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Re: Chase problems - again

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/14/2017 05:18 AM, Desiree wrote:

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page
asking for login again.

Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is
there a better user agent than the one I tried?


I doubt the problem is SeaMonkey.
I have noticed a number of complaints here in the past few months of 
people having problems with sites of {for want of a better term - "mass 
market sites"}. I'd take my business elsewhere - did that with Chase 
decades ago over different problem but with likely similar root causes.



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Re: Youtube videos don't work any more

[Mason83]

OK, so if your real profile is still not working
(maybe it was a transient error) then the issue would be
1) from a plug-in
2) from an add-on
3) from a specific config option (some get set to default values in safe mode)

Identifying which is the hard part, unfortunately...

Regards.

On 14/09/2017 11:44, Klaus Weber wrote:
> Thank you! Safe mode works.
> 
> Mason83 schrieb:
>> On 13/09/2017 15:12, Klaus Weber wrote:
>>
>>> SM 2.48 Windows 10, 64 bit
>>>
>>> Since a few days I cannot play youtube videos any more on SM. Firefox
>>> and Chrome are fine. 2 plug-ins about html5 are installed on SM. Any idea?
>> First try safe mode, then try with a fresh profile.
>>
>> Does one of these work?
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Re: Chase problems - again

[Arnie Goetchius]

Desiree wrote:
> Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used User 
> Agent Switcher and
> faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That got me further but only to the 
> screen where Chase says
> it doesn't recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary 
> ID code.  I did that
> but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page asking for login again.
> 
> Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is there 
> a better user agent
> than the one I tried?
I just logged in with no problem. See my UA for what I use
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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-09-14 12:18 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


Ed's data is out of date.
To back up passwords, you need to copy key3.db and logins.json.
For more information, see



I have all three files on my SM 2.46. Do you mean to say that 
signons.sqlite is no longer in use, can be ignored/deleted? After what 
version was it abandoned? I see the modification date for my 
signons.sqlite is 10/2/2014.




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Re: Chase problems - again

[Mason83]

On 14/09/2017 12:18, Desiree wrote:
> Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used 
> User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That 
> got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't 
> recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID 
> code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page 
> asking for login again.
> 
> Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is 
> there a better user agent than the one I tried?

Maybe you can try with an actual FF account.
If that works, try spoofing the same UA in SM?

Regards
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Chase problems - again

[Desiree]

Sigh.  I can't login to Chase Online using  SeaMonkey 2.48.  So, I used 
User Agent Switcher and faked Fx 47 (Win 10) as the user agent.  That 
got me further but only to the screen where Chase says it doesn't 
recognize the user's computer and you have to request a temporary ID 
code.  I did that but Chase just flipped me to the main Chase page 
asking for login again.


Does anything work currently with Chase Online login and SeaMonkey?  Is 
there a better user agent than the one I tried?

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Re: Youtube videos don't work any more

[Klaus Weber]

Thank you! Safe mode works.

Mason83 schrieb:

On 13/09/2017 15:12, Klaus Weber wrote:


SM 2.48 Windows 10, 64 bit

Since a few days I cannot play youtube videos any more on SM. Firefox
and Chrome are fine. 2 plug-ins about html5 are installed on SM. Any idea?

First try safe mode, then try with a fresh profile.

Does one of these work?
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