Making "Page Setup" choices "non-sticky"

[BIll Spikowski]

When I print a document that needs a different scale than my preferred
default (Shrink to fit Page Width), the scale I select remains in
place until I manually change it back. Is there some way to avoid this
behavior, making the scale selection non-sticky?
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Re: winmail.dat

[BIll Spikowski]

Smiles wrote:

> how do I open a winmail.dat file sent to me with SeaMonkey


I use "WinMail Opener":
http://www.eolsoft.com/freeware/winmail_opener/

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Re: winmail.dat

[BIll Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 11/25/12 7:01 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>> BIll Spikowski wrote, On 25/11/2012 13:59:
>>> Smiles wrote:
>>>
>>>> how do I open a winmail.dat file sent to me with SeaMonkey
>>>
>>> I use "WinMail Opener":
>>> http://www.eolsoft.com/freeware/winmail_opener/
>>>
>> If Winmail Opener can do it . SM will be smart enough to do it also ?
>> Ok i have the answer .. SM developpers hates microsoft stuff, so will 
>> never never try to manage winmail.dat :-)
>>
> 
> Why should SeaMonkey (or Mozilla in general) implement something that is
> proprietary to Microsoft, something that no other non-Microsoft software
> supports?


So that Seamonkey users can interact with their colleagues, who often
work in businesses that yoke them to Microsoft, whatever their
personal preferences?

You could hardly find a more devoted and loyal Seamonkey user than me;
but I don't recommend Seamonkey to non-techie friends because of just
this sort of shortcoming.

I keep hoping that someone with the appropriate technical skills will
write an extension that interprets winmail.dat files and Outlook
appointments

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Re: Adding an Address to the Address Book

[BIll Spikowski]

Mister Moose wrote:
> What has happened to the "Add Sender to Address Book" option in
> SeaMonkey?  It has simply disappeared from the menu options when I
> right-click on an email header.  Why was it removed?  I used this
> feature often!



I've noticed lately that this option often doesn't appear; but when
right-clicking on OTHER emails, it does still appear.

I haven't managed to figure out this behavior!


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Re: Adding an Address to the Address Book

[BIll Spikowski]

Ken wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Mister Moose wrote:
>>> What has happened to the "Add Sender to Address Book" option in
>>> SeaMonkey?  It has simply disappeared from the menu options when I
>>> right-click on an email header.  Why was it removed?  I used this
>>> feature often!
>>
>>
>>
>> I've noticed lately that this option often doesn't appear; but when
>> right-clicking on OTHER emails, it does still appear.
>>
>> I haven't managed to figure out this behavior!
>>
>>
> Could it be that it only appears for addresses that are NOT already in 
> the address book?


That's my best guess so far! Although, if so, wouldn't it better to
open the existing address book card for that e-mail address, so that
it could be verified, or edited?


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A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different
locations.

They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links
in a new tab.

For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same
problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that
says "Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin." This used
to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe
in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very
frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to
keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links!

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Re: A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different
>> locations.
>>
>> They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links
>> in a new tab.
>>
>> For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same
>> problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that
>> says "Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin." This used
>> to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe
>> in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very
>> frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works.
>>
>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to
>> keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links!
>>
> 
> Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin 
> and deactivate it.  Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates.
> 
> And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the 
> free Foxit PDF reader:


I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat
version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I
disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily
reversible?

I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings
they keep providing!

I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the
interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to
me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that
finally works for me...

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Re: A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 12/31/12 9:53 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>> I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different
>>>> locations.
>>>>
>>>> They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links
>>>> in a new tab.
>>>>
>>>> For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same
>>>> problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that
>>>> says "Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin." This used
>>>> to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe
>>>> in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very
>>>> frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to
>>>> keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin 
>>> and deactivate it.  Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates.
>>>
>>> And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the 
>>> free Foxit PDF reader:
>>
>>
>> I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat
>> version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I
>> disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily
>> reversible?
>>
>> I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings
>> they keep providing!
>>
>> I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the
>> interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to
>> me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that
>> finally works for me...
>>
> 
> Your Adobe Acrobat 9.5 -- is that the reader or the writer?
> 
> I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to
> reinstall the reader.  Yes, they will work okay without doing that; but
> SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the reader.
> 
> Also, you should turn off updates.  On the reader's menu bar, select
> [Edit > Preferences > Updater], select the last radio button, and then
> the okay button.  Periodically, manually check
> <http://get.adobe.com/reader/> to see if there is a new version.
> 
> The current version of the reader is 11.0.


My Acrobat 9.5 is the full version of Acrobat -- which includes all
the reader functions, but also all the writer functions, plus the PDF
editing functions.

SM (and Firefox) often seems to confuse these two programs. For
instance, on my office computer, the Add-ons Manager correctly reports
Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 as my plug-in, but its update link would replace
it with Adobe Reader 11, which for me would be a huge downgrade in
functionality.





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Re: A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

WaltS wrote:
> On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>> I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different
>>>> locations.
>>>>
>>>> They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links
>>>> in a new tab.
>>>>
>>>> For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same
>>>> problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that
>>>> says "Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin." This used
>>>> to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe
>>>> in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very
>>>> frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to
>>>> keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin
>>> and deactivate it.  Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates.
>>>
>>> And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the
>>> free Foxit PDF reader:
>>
>>
>> I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat
>> version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I
>> disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily
>> reversible?
>>
>> I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings
>> they keep providing!
>>
>> I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the
>> interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to
>> me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that
>> finally works for me...
>>
> 
> I would think this also applies to SeaMonkey.
> 
> Adobe Reader 9.5.1 and below was blocked in October 2012.
> 
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p156>


I don't know why anyone would continue to use READER 9.5.1, when a
free upgrade to 11 is easily available, as are numerous competing
products that many people prefer.

But I'm using the full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1, not Reader 9.5.1. I think
SM is confusing the two. Acrobat 9.5.1 is updated constantly; it's not
the latest version, but it's hardly obsolete, or unpatched as to security.

I think you've identified the source of my problem -- that SM thinks
I'm using READER 9.5.1 and is blocking it "for my own good."

Understanding that should help me find some solution


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Re: A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different
>> locations.
>>
>> They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links
>> in a new tab.
>>
>> For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same
>> problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that
>> says "Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin." This used
>> to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe
>> in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very
>> frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works.
>>
>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to
>> keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links!
> 
> On one test machine, why not turn off adobe bloatware
> and install Foxit?  10 megs vs. 110 megs.
> The old Foxit 2.2 works well for me. I don't get viruses.


I often use Foxit, but not with SM where it insists on replacing
Acrobat. Foxit's a nice product, but it's only my first choice for
certain functions where I've found it superior.


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Re: A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>>> I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to
>>> reinstall the reader.  Yes, they will work okay without doing that;
>>> but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the
>>> reader.
>>>
>>> Also, you should turn off updates.  On the reader's menu bar,
>>> select [Edit > Preferences > Updater], select the last radio
>>> button, and then the okay button.  Periodically, manually check
>>> <http://get.adobe.com/reader/> to see if there is a new version.
>>>
>>> The current version of the reader is 11.0.
>>
>> My Acrobat 9.5 is the full version of Acrobat -- which includes all
>> the reader functions, but also all the writer functions, plus the
>> PDF editing functions.
>>
>> SM (and Firefox) often seems to confuse these two programs. For
>> instance, on my office computer, the Add-ons Manager correctly
>> reports Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 as my plug-in, but its update link would
>> replace it with Adobe Reader 11, which for me would be a huge
>> downgrade in functionality.
> 
> I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both 
> programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is 
> the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So 
> don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. 
> Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat.


Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks
the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of
the crippled Reader.

Without wanting to, I've experienced having both installed at the same
time, and it was very difficult to untangle.

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Re: A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

WaltS wrote:
> On 01/02/2013 08:54 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> WaltS wrote:
>>> On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>>>> I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different
>>>>>> locations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links
>>>>>> in a new tab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same
>>>>>> problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that
>>>>>> says "Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin." This used
>>>>>> to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe
>>>>>> in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very
>>>>>> frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to
>>>>>> keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin
>>>>> and deactivate it.  Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the
>>>>> free Foxit PDF reader:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat
>>>> version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I
>>>> disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily
>>>> reversible?
>>>>
>>>> I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings
>>>> they keep providing!
>>>>
>>>> I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the
>>>> interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to
>>>> me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that
>>>> finally works for me...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would think this also applies to SeaMonkey.
>>>
>>> Adobe Reader 9.5.1 and below was blocked in October 2012.
>>>
>>> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p156>
>>
>>
>> I don't know why anyone would continue to use READER 9.5.1, when a
>> free upgrade to 11 is easily available, as are numerous competing
>> products that many people prefer.
>>
>> But I'm using the full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1, not Reader 9.5.1. I think
>> SM is confusing the two. Acrobat 9.5.1 is updated constantly; it's not
>> the latest version, but it's hardly obsolete, or unpatched as to security.
>>
>> I think you've identified the source of my problem -- that SM thinks
>> I'm using READER 9.5.1 and is blocking it "for my own good."
>>
>> Understanding that should help me find some solution
>>
>>
> 
> The full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 doesn't come with a reader plugin,
> and you have none showing in SeaMonkey under Tools > Add-ons Manager > 
> Plugins?


Adobe explains nothing about whether Acrobat contains plug-ins. But
I've been using Acrobat and SM/Mozilla/Netscape for fifteen years and
have never had to do anything to make it work, except when SM decides
that my long-working installation should be disabled (maybe once every
couple of years).

Right now my Add-ons Manager reports "Adobe Acrobat 9.5.2.295" as
"Adobe PDF Plug-In for Firefox and Netscape "9.5.2""   (A few days
ago, it says 9.5.1.)

Today it has stopped disabling Acrobat and everything is working fine,
so I can't do any more troubleshooting. When I click "check to see if
your plugins are up to date," however, the Firefox plug-in checker
reports 9.5.2 as outdated, even though it's only days old. But now I
know better than to click "update"...

For now, all is well!

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Re: A new PDF problem...

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have
>>> both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what
>>> good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in
>>> Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't
>>> confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat.
>>
>> Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks
>> the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of
>> the crippled Reader.
> 
> Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls and such 
> blocking installers, but SM has never done that.


If it ever happens to you, this is what you'll see: You will click on
a PDF link in SM mail or browser, expecting it to open in a new tab
(at least that's how my system is set up); instead you'll be given a
solid grey screen that says "Check for updates... Click here to
activate plugin."

There are other reasons for this screen occasionally appearing
(usually that acrobat.exe is hung up), but this time you'll be asked
to update Acrobat. If you accept, you will find Acrobat Reader 11 to
be installed in place of your full Acrobat plug-in.



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Address Book(s)

[BIll Spikowski]

I see that I have two address books, "personal address book" and
"collected addresses."

What's the purpose of having two address books?

Which address book is queried when I begin to type in an addressee for
an e-mail?

Is there any advantage to maintaining them separately, as opposed to
combining them (so I wouldn't have to search both when looking for an
email address)?
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Re: Address Book(s)

[BIll Spikowski]

Michael Gordon wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I see that I have two address books, "personal address book" and
>> "collected addresses."
>>
>> What's the purpose of having two address books?
>>
>> Which address book is queried when I begin to type in an addressee for
>> an e-mail?
>>
>> Is there any advantage to maintaining them separately, as opposed to
>> combining them (so I wouldn't have to search both when looking for an
>> email address)?
>>
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Both address books can be quered when you begin entering an e-mail 
> address into the "To:" field.
> 
> The Personal address book is your accounts personal address book where 
> you can manually enter data, have SM enter the e-mail address from a 
> received message, or create groups of addresses.
> 
> The Collected address book is unique to SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  Each 
> time you press the send button to send a message, SM saves the outgoing 
> address in the Collected address book.  This book only contains a 
> listing of outgoing addresses, but you can click on an address in this 
> book and drag it over to your Personal Address Book.  From there you can 
> enter other personal data about the owner of the address.  It saves 
> making typo errors when entering addresses by hand.  Errors like the 
> difference between #1 letters L, l, i, I, O, 0, and other similar 
> combinations.

Thank you -- very helpful!

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Re: Address Book(s)

[BIll Spikowski]

Jens Hatlak wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I see that I have two address books, "personal address book" and
>> "collected addresses."
>>
>> What's the purpose of having two address books?
>>
>> Which address book is queried when I begin to type in an addressee for
>> an e-mail?
> 
> Take a look at Preferences, Mail & Newsgroups, Addressing. This should 
> answer some of your questions, esp. in combination with the Help button.


I should have looked there first!

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Re: Serious Overload Problem

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Robert Gault wrote:
> 
>> I've had a similar issue with recent versions of SeaMonkey but don't
>> know whether SM is causing the problem, my AT&T mailbox on Yahoo, or my
>> dial-up connection.
>>
>> Any time the content of an email is "large" say about 100K, it is not
>> deleted from the Yahoo mailbox. Instead, the large email kills the flow
>> leaving the large email and all others on Yahoo.
>> Since the large email was not POPed, the next attempt at getting email
>> just repeats the large message.
>>
>> The workaround is to manually delete large emails from Yahoo via the
>> browser.
>>
>> I suspect that this is a timing issue caused by the slow dial-up
>> connection.
> 
> Have you looked here?
> 
> Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings... | Disk Space
> [x] To save disk space, do not download messages larger than nn KB
> 
> I've never enabled this setting, so I don't know how SM handles large 
> messages in this configuration. Does it just silently ignore them, or 
> does it notify the user?


It downloads the header and the initial lines of the message and
provides a button if you want to download the entire message. Very
simple, very effective!


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Re: Acrobat plugin out of date?

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Updated my full Adobe Acrobat program to v. 10.1.6 on February 15, runs 
> fine.
> 
> SM/FF plugins check says my plugin is out of date, offers to downgrade 
> me to Acrobat Reader 11.0.02.
> 
> Is my full program really vulnerable, do I really need to downgrade to 
> the Reader?
> 
> Or can I just update the plugin?


There's a previous thread on this subject, beginning on 12/31/2012,
titled "A new PDF problem..."

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Quote Colors

[BIll Spikowski]

I just started using "Quote Colors" again; it makes threaded
discussions much more comprehensible, instead of this:
>
>>
>>>

>

Once before I tried it but gave up because it only worked on my
computer; it didn't add the coloring into the message itself where it
would be visible to others.

So now I figure it was never designed to work that way; or am I
missing something?
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Re: Quote Colors

[BIll Spikowski]

Mark Berger wrote:
> Rickles wrote:
>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>> I just started using "Quote Colors" again; it makes threaded
>>> discussions much more comprehensible, instead of this:
>>> Once before I tried it but gave up because it only worked on my
>>> computer; it didn't add the coloring into the message itself where it
>>> would be visible to others.
>>>
>>> So now I figure it was never designed to work that way; or am I
>>> missing something?
>>>
>> If you open your Add-ons mgr window, then click on the Options button
>> for QuoteColors, you'll see the boxes where you can tick to change the
>> text color, or not, as well as the background color, etc.
>>
>> I'm using QC v0.3 on SM 2.16.2 under XP-SP3, and it shows a highlited
>> bar for each indent, a different color for each indent, and the text
>> matches the color of the indent bar.
> Windows XP SP3  SM 2.16.2
> SM disabled my QC v0.3, and it won't reinstall from the website.  Is 
> there a way to get it to work?

I've got the exact same setup; I reinstalled QC v0.3 this morning from
here:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html
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Re: Quote Colors

[BIll Spikowski]

MCBastos wrote:
> Interviewed by CNN on 18/03/2013 15:23, BIll Spikowski told the world:
>> I just started using "Quote Colors" again; it makes threaded
>> discussions much more comprehensible, instead of this:
>> Once before I tried it but gave up because it only worked on my
>> computer; it didn't add the coloring into the message itself where it
>> would be visible to others.
>>
>> So now I figure it was never designed to work that way; or am I
>> missing something?
>>
> No, you aren't missing anything. QuoteColors basically tweaks the
> preferences for displaying messages you received; it does *not* actually
> modifies the message, nor does it changes the styles for messages you send.
>
> That's why it can affect plaintext messages, for instance -- yet when
> you reply them, they are still plaintext.
>
> Before QuoteColors, way, way back in the old times of Mozilla
> Application Suite 1.0 or thereabouts -- or maybe even before that -- I
> found a reference to prefs.js that explained how to tweak the
> appearance of the message being read. I went to the trouble of doing it
> all by hand, once. QuoteColors made it way simpler.

It sure does!

After reinstalling it, I remember how much I had enjoyed using it.

Now that I realize it can't format outgoing messages, I've stopped
wondering and will just enjoy using it!

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Re: Send button lost

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G. Ross wrote:
> Using 2.6.1 in Win7.  To send or forward a message there is no "Send" 
> button.  have to press ctrl-enter or click files/send now.  Has this 
> been corrected in the newer iterations?


Working fine here -- did your mail toolbar get hidden? (in the Compose
window, View | Show/Hide | Mail Toolbar)


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Re: pop-ups

[BIll Spikowski]

may12.newsgroup wrote:
> Is there a link somewhere that could help me set the pop-up options to 
> eliminate the flood that seems to be taking over my computer. Some of 
> them overlay what I am working on and I have to go away to another link 
> and come back, often to the same problem.


EDIT | PREFERENCES | PRIVACY & SECURITY | POPUP WINDOWS -- check
"block unrequested popup windows"

If you later decide to allow popup windows for a site and then change
your mind, go to:
TOOLS | POPUP MANAGER | PERMISSIONS -- look for any domain where you
want to allow popups, then click "allow"

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Re: Ugly line wraps in email

[BIll Spikowski]

Janine Starykowicz wrote:
> In the latest version of SeaMonkey, something has changed in text
> vs. html mail. I used to be able to paste as plain text, and
> everything would wrap neatly in the received email. Now, it seems
> the default is paste as text, but when the email is received, it
> has line breaks where they were in the original. How do I get back
> to a flowing wrap?


I hadn't noticed any recent changes; but this is a longstanding issue
that I've never fully resolved.

Even with plain text, sometimes there are hidden line breaks that
destroy the readability of forwarded or "replied to" messages.

I don't know where they come from or how to remove them, although I've
tried everything under the sun!


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Re: Ugly line wraps in email

[BIll Spikowski]

Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2013-03-29 09:51 (GMT-0400) BIll Spikowski composed:
> 
>> Janine Starykowicz wrote:
> 
>>> In the latest version of SeaMonkey, something has changed in text
>>> vs. html mail. I used to be able to paste as plain text, and
>>> everything would wrap neatly in the received email. Now, it seems
>>> the default is paste as text, but when the email is received, it
>>> has line breaks where they were in the original. How do I get back
>>> to a flowing wrap?
> 
>> I hadn't noticed any recent changes; but this is a longstanding issue
>> that I've never fully resolved.
> 
>> Even with plain text, sometimes there are hidden line breaks that
>> destroy the readability of forwarded or "replied to" messages.
> 
>> I don't know where they come from or how to remove them, although I've
>> tried everything under the sun!
> 
> I do plain text in email about 99.9998% of the time. To get rid of "hidden" 
> line breaks I switch from windowed to fullscreen to change the displayed line 
> lengths, then backspace from the hard breaks and delete all but the first 
> "quote" mark. On switching back to windowed after finishing backspacing, 
> sometimes stragglers show up, which I remove the same way. Once that's done, 
> edit->rewrap restores quote marks to appropriate locations according to 
> configured composition line length.


Thank you -- that looks like a good method!


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Re: Automatic checking for bookmarked sites updates

[BIll Spikowski]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> Ilya wrote:
>> Here's what SeaMonkey Help says:
>>
>> "You can also set SeaMonkey to check bookmarked websites for
>>changes.
>>
>>Open the Bookmarks menu and choose Manage Bookmarks.
>>In your Bookmarks window, click a bookmark.
>>Click Properties.
>>Use the pull down lists and the textfield under Check this location
>>  for updates to specify how often you want SeaMonkey to check the
>>  bookmarked page for changes.
>>To be notified when the bookmarked page changes, choose from the options
>>  in the Notification section."
>>
>> But I can't see any "pull down lists". I that me being a retard, or the
>> feature has been really removed from SM?
> 
> You might try AM-Deadlink:
> 
> http://www.aignes.com/deadlink.htm


Or the Cadillac version, Website Watcher:
http://aignes.com/

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Re: Minimum font size

[BIll Spikowski]

BIll Spikowski wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 5/20/13 10:23 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>> In the browser appearance preferences, how do I get rid of the
>>> mandatory font size for proportional and monospace fonts?
>>>
>>> I can set them from 8 to 72 points, but even after setting the
>>> "minimum font size" box to "none," I can't get the browser to let
>>> individual sites set the font size -- whatever font size I enter gets
>>> applied to every site.
>>>
>>
>> Many Web pages do not specify a font size.  Without a default in your
>> prferences, what should they use?
> 
> 
> I have no problem with the browser setting a default for sites that
> don't specify a font size, but right now I have no ability to use the
> website-specified font size (or font style).
> 
> Each site I visit uses the font and font size I set in preferences,
> and I have to CTRL + or - to make the site viewable.
> 
> This can't be right, so I assume I must be doing something wrong; and
> perhaps fixing that will solve other problems I have with the SM
> browser on certain websites.
> 
> Has anyone else had the problem of setting the "minimum font size" box
> to "none," but still having the default font size controlling all
> websites? I'm running Windows XP SP3 and the very latest SM version.
> 
> This isn't anything new, I'm just finally getting around to tracking
> down the problem. I'll admit to fussing with the font size settings
> dozens of times through the years; when I get everything just right
> for reading emails, then I find that the browser display is messed up.
> After I while I find some happy medium that works for both emails and
> the browser, then I quit messing with the settings for a while.


I've got this fixed, though I still don't understand the problem.

I created a new profile and saw that everything worked as expected
with the default settings in Preferences | Appearance | Fonts.

In my regular profile, I tried resetting everything to match the
default settings in the new profile. The differences were almost
indistinguishable, yet the browser now displays fonts and font sizes
specified by individual.

Thank you to those who responded to my request!


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Minimum font size

[BIll Spikowski]

In the browser appearance preferences, how do I get rid of the
mandatory font size for proportional and monospace fonts?

I can set them from 8 to 72 points, but even after setting the
"minimum font size" box to "none," I can't get the browser to let
individual sites set the font size -- whatever font size I enter gets
applied to every site.
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Re: Minimum font size

[BIll Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> In the browser appearance preferences, how do I get rid of the
>> mandatory font size for proportional and monospace fonts?
>>
>> I can set them from 8 to 72 points, but even after setting the
>> "minimum font size" box to "none," I can't get the browser to let
>> individual sites set the font size -- whatever font size I enter gets
>> applied to every site.
>>
> 
> I believe the check box titled "Allow documents to use other 
> fonts" will do so.


I've got that box checked; but it doesn't seem to allow "other fonts"
(or other font sizes) to be displayed...


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Re: Minimum font size

[BIll Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 5/20/13 10:23 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> In the browser appearance preferences, how do I get rid of the
>> mandatory font size for proportional and monospace fonts?
>>
>> I can set them from 8 to 72 points, but even after setting the
>> "minimum font size" box to "none," I can't get the browser to let
>> individual sites set the font size -- whatever font size I enter gets
>> applied to every site.
>>
> 
> Many Web pages do not specify a font size.  Without a default in your
> prferences, what should they use?


I have no problem with the browser setting a default for sites that
don't specify a font size, but right now I have no ability to use the
website-specified font size (or font style).

Each site I visit uses the font and font size I set in preferences,
and I have to CTRL + or - to make the site viewable.

This can't be right, so I assume I must be doing something wrong; and
perhaps fixing that will solve other problems I have with the SM
browser on certain websites.

Has anyone else had the problem of setting the "minimum font size" box
to "none," but still having the default font size controlling all
websites? I'm running Windows XP SP3 and the very latest SM version.

This isn't anything new, I'm just finally getting around to tracking
down the problem. I'll admit to fussing with the font size settings
dozens of times through the years; when I get everything just right
for reading emails, then I find that the browser display is messed up.
After I while I find some happy medium that works for both emails and
the browser, then I quit messing with the settings for a while.
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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> Whereas, the font problem is a really big deal to me. I'm testing
>> other browsers right now (once again) to see if I could live with
>> one of them instead of SM, even though they all seem inferior for my
>> needs. The real issue is the font minimum size glitch, which has
>> been a problem forever and seems unlikely to ever get fixed.
> 
> For that (and really, it's not SM's fault that some idiot web designers 
> use constrained boxes), I suggest you use CTRL-+/- to adjust the zoom.

Yes -- without CTRL +/- I could not survive!

Yet there are many websites where that doesn't help; for instance, the
font expands at the same rate as the constrained box, making both
larger, but not allowing any more text to be visible.

I don't know all the reasons that lead web designers to their
creations, but rather than assuming they're idiots and waiting for
them to "see the light," I wish a browser as sophisticated and
manipulable as SM would let me see their sites TODAY!

There was an extension that solved this problem for me for years ("no
squint" maybe?) but it didn't survive the transition to SM 2.0.

Actually, all I really want is to be able to set a minimum font size
for plain text emails and not have it automatically apply to the
browser. (Maybe that's a tall order, I wouldn't have any way of knowing.)



> If you zoom in email and then launch the browser, the browser will start 
> with that same zoom level. But you can clear it with CTRL-0, and from 
> then on, with both modules open, you can zoom them independently.

Well this is news to me -- thanks for the tip! I'll experiment
immediately. I typically leave the SM mail window open all the time,
while opening and closing browser windows throughout the day.


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Re: outlook invites

[BIll Spikowski]

hawker wrote:
> On 6/4/2013 11:19 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Stéphane Grégoire wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> hawker a tapoté, le 03/06/2013 18:05:
>>>> So is there any plug in so that I actually get them and can read them?
>>>> Would lightning do this?
>>>
>>> Yes : <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Calendar/Calendar_Versions>
>>
>> What am I looking at? Is Calendar an extension that will work with
>> Outlook invites? Or do I need Lightning (whatever that is)?
>>
>>
> 
>  From what I can tell Calendar and Lightning are the same thing.
> Lighting is a calendar plug in that gives many features, one of which is 
> the ability to read Outlook invites.  I think much of the Outlook style 
> scheduling, calendar, meeting invites etc is rolled into Lighting.
> It seems to "outlook-ize" Mozilla products.
> I have not yet tried it.  The only thing moving me to it is keeping up 
> with sales folks that use Outlook.


Regrettably it's not compatible with the current version of Seamonkey;
otherwise I'd try it out.

Just today I missed a teleconference because the email announcement
said June 6, but all the other attendees got the Outlook announcement
that had the correct date, June 4!


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Re: outlook invites

[BIll Spikowski]

Stéphane Grégoire wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> hawker a tapoté, le 03/06/2013 18:05:
>> So is there any plug in so that I actually get them and can read them? 
>> Would lightning do this?
> 
> Yes : 

What am I looking at? Is Calendar an extension that will work with
Outlook invites? Or do I need Lightning (whatever that is)?


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Re: outlook invites

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hawker wrote:
> On 6/4/2013 1:49 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> hawker wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2013 11:19 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>> Stéphane Grégoire wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> hawker a tapoté, le 03/06/2013 18:05:
>>>>>> So is there any plug in so that I actually get them and can read them?
>>>>>> Would lightning do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes : 
>>>>> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Calendar/Calendar_Versions>
>>>>
>>>> What am I looking at? Is Calendar an extension that will work with
>>>> Outlook invites? Or do I need Lightning (whatever that is)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>   From what I can tell Calendar and Lightning are the same thing.
>>> Lighting is a calendar plug in that gives many features, one of which is
>>> the ability to read Outlook invites.  I think much of the Outlook style
>>> scheduling, calendar, meeting invites etc is rolled into Lighting.
>>> It seems to "outlook-ize" Mozilla products.
>>> I have not yet tried it.  The only thing moving me to it is keeping up
>>> with sales folks that use Outlook.
>>
>>
>> Regrettably it's not compatible with the current version of Seamonkey;
>> otherwise I'd try it out.
>>
>> Just today I missed a teleconference because the email announcement
>> said June 6, but all the other attendees got the Outlook announcement
>> that had the correct date, June 4!
>>
>>
> 
> It IS available for the current version of Seamonkey - but you have to 
> pay attention to which one to install. Look at the link above.
> If your on 2.17.1 (the current version) use Lightning 2.2B1 download is here
> https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/downloads/file/196540/lightning-2.2b1-sm+tb-windows.xpi?src=version-history
> If your on a different version use the chart to download the correct 
> version from the list here
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Calendar/Calendar_Versions


Right out of the box, I see one big advantage of Lightning -- messages
from Outlook users that contain calendar items are now highlighted!

That simple point of knowledge is important, even if the rest of the
calendar function doesn't work out for me...

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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

[BIll Spikowski]

WaltS wrote:
>  
> Why install a suite if you ain't gonna use it?


Well, it depends on why you installed the suite in the first place!

I use the SM browser and SM mail because I like both pieces of
software MUCH better than any of the competition.

For me, having them together in a suite seems more harmful than helpful:

-- When one crashes, the other crashes with it. Not every day; but
often a few times a day

-- The font preferences would be better if they could be set
separately for the browser and email client. If I set a minimum font
size sufficient for me to be able to read email, then many web pages
aren't readable because their text is in a constrained box. How is
that setup helpful to users?

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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

[BIll Spikowski]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> BIll Spikowski:
> 
>> For me, having them together in a suite seems more harmful than helpful:
>>
>> -- When one crashes, the other crashes with it. Not every day; but
>> often a few times a day
> 
> For me crashes occur very seldom althoug i am using Trunk. And those
> crashes are fixed quickly.
> 
> Hartmut


The crashes could be from problems on my computer, rather than with
SM. It's annoying, but not that big of a deal, especially now with the
"restore session" feature.

Whereas, the font problem is a really big deal to me. I'm testing
other browsers right now (once again) to see if I could live with one
of them instead of SM, even though they all seem inferior for my
needs. The real issue is the font minimum size glitch, which has been
a problem forever and seems unlikely to ever get fixed.


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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

[BIll Spikowski]

BIll Spikowski wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, all I really want is to be able to set a minimum font size
>>>>>>> for plain text emails and not have it automatically apply to the
>>>>>>> browser. (Maybe that's a tall order, I wouldn't have any way of
>>>>>>> knowing.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, by definition plain text has no font specification. You can
>>>>>> set your prefs to use a particular font style and size:
>>>>>>  Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts | Monospace...
>>>>>> but the incoming message itself has no font specification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So for example if you set Monospace to 20 pt Courier and Minimum font
>>>>>> size to 14, your browser will obey the 14 point spec (because HTML pages
>>>>>> do specify font styles and sizes) but your plain text emails will appear
>>>>>> in 20 point Courier.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In your example, how does the mail client know to use 20 pt instead of
>>>>> 14 pt?
>>>>
>>>> I'm gonna guess that it assumes plain text is fixed-width (monospace).
>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever the reason -- that works for me in the "Compose" window, but
>>> not in the preview pane, or after double-clicking incoming messages.
>>>
>>> That's my biggest problems -- scanning huge numbers of incoming emails
>>> on a high-resolution monitor, without having to put my face right
>>> against the screen!
>>>
>>> Is there some way to make this work for incoming emails?
>>
>> Strange, it works fine for me, except of course for HTML messages.
> 
> 
> OK -- as long as I know it SHOULD work, I'll see if I can make it work
> that way here. It would resolve a long-standing problem for me!


I'm experimenting on three different machines and the results are
inconsistent.

Setting a "monospace" font and font size always results in that font
and size being used in the Compose windows, but I can't figure out why
it's so inconsistent as to the preview pane.

I understand that this setting won't affect incoming emails that were
composed in HTML, but it's inconsistent even on what I believe are
plain-text emails. How can I tell which are in plain text for sure?
One idea is that some incoming emails might look like plain text
because they appear in Courier New, my choice of monospace font, but
actually be HTML.

On one machine, all incoming plain-text emails appear in Charter BT
font, which I recognize because it's the default font I use for word
processing documents. However, the only instructions I've given SM
regarding Charter BT is to use it as the serif font, which if I'm
understanding how all this is supposed to work, shouldn't affect
plain-text emails but should apply to websites that don't specify a
serif font.

In researching this further on-line, the SM font dialog box seems to
be inherited from Firefox, which is a surprise to me because I had
never been able to find how to set fonts in Firefox. That could
explain why SM doesn't provide any documentation of this feature and
why confused users posting to this group advise each other around in
circles, never truly figuring out how this is supposed to work!

Thanks Paul for offering the most knowledgeable advice to date.

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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, all I really want is to be able to set a minimum font size
>>>>>> for plain text emails and not have it automatically apply to the
>>>>>> browser. (Maybe that's a tall order, I wouldn't have any way of
>>>>>> knowing.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, by definition plain text has no font specification. You can
>>>>> set your prefs to use a particular font style and size:
>>>>>   Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts | Monospace...
>>>>> but the incoming message itself has no font specification.
>>>>>
>>>>> So for example if you set Monospace to 20 pt Courier and Minimum font
>>>>> size to 14, your browser will obey the 14 point spec (because HTML pages
>>>>> do specify font styles and sizes) but your plain text emails will appear
>>>>> in 20 point Courier.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In your example, how does the mail client know to use 20 pt instead of
>>>> 14 pt?
>>>
>>> I'm gonna guess that it assumes plain text is fixed-width (monospace).
>>
>>
>> Whatever the reason -- that works for me in the "Compose" window, but
>> not in the preview pane, or after double-clicking incoming messages.
>>
>> That's my biggest problems -- scanning huge numbers of incoming emails
>> on a high-resolution monitor, without having to put my face right
>> against the screen!
>>
>> Is there some way to make this work for incoming emails?
> 
> Strange, it works fine for me, except of course for HTML messages.


OK -- as long as I know it SHOULD work, I'll see if I can make it work
that way here. It would resolve a long-standing problem for me!


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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> I'm experimenting on three different machines and the results are
>> inconsistent.
>>
>> Setting a "monospace" font and font size always results in that font
>> and size being used in the Compose windows, but I can't figure out why
>> it's so inconsistent as to the preview pane.
>>
>> I understand that this setting won't affect incoming emails that were
>> composed in HTML, but it's inconsistent even on what I believe are
>> plain-text emails. How can I tell which are in plain text for sure?
>> One idea is that some incoming emails might look like plain text
>> because they appear in Courier New, my choice of monospace font, but
>> actually be HTML.
> 
> Depending on the sender's settings, sometimes messages are sent in both 
> plain text and HTML. Depending on the recipient's settings, one or the 
> other of those will be displayed.
> 
> If you examine the "source code" of such a message (with the message 
> open, do CTRL-U), you'll see something like this (ellipses indicate 
> omissions for the sake of clarity):
> 
>   Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="gobbledygook"
>   Content-language: en-us
>   ...
>   
>   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>   
>   --gobbledygook
>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>   Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>   
>   ...
>   
>   --gobbledygook
>   Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
>   Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>   
>   ...
> 
> In this example, the sending machine marked the first copy of the 
> message as plain text and the second copy as HTML. I've used the word 
> "gobbledygook" to represent the alphabet soup you'll actually see for 
> the boundary.
> 
> I'm not sure how SM handles such messages, but I would expect plain-text 
> settings to apply if the rules say to display the message as plain text, 
> and HTML settings to apply if the rules say to display the message as 
> HTML. But I can't figure out how to specify these rules.
> 
> Another possibility is that some of your senders may have specified 
> non-Western encodings. If you look carefully at
>   Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts
> you will find that Monospace can be set differently for different 
> encodings. For example, I have Western monospace set to Courier New, but 
> Korean monospace set to GulimChe. So if a sender specifies Korean 
> encoding, I'll see it in GulimChe instead of Courier New. You can also 
> set different sizes for different encodings.
> 
> Two other places you may want to look:
> 
> 1) Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Message Display
> 
> There's an option:
>   Plain text messages
>   Font: (•) Fixed width (o) Variable width
> 
> So you could set it to display plain-text messages with proportional 
> font(s), but AFAIK the default is fixed-width.
> 
> 2) Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Composition
> There's an option:
>   Defaults for HTML Messages:
>   Font: [Variable Width]
> 
> You can pull down [Fixed Width] or a specific font from the list.


This is incredibly helpful!

On my office computer, I had specified "variable width" for displaying
plain text messages; that's why they showed up in Charter BT instead
of Courier New.

I had completely forgotten about CTRL-U! Next time messages show up
strange, I'll able to figure out how they were sent.

And now that I know about CTRL-0, I'll always know whether the current
zoom level is the default, or the result of my recent efforts.

My only regret is that this information is buried in a string on
another subject, where it may be hard for others to find
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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> Actually, all I really want is to be able to set a minimum font size
>> for plain text emails and not have it automatically apply to the
>> browser. (Maybe that's a tall order, I wouldn't have any way of
>> knowing.)
> 
> Actually, by definition plain text has no font specification. You can 
> set your prefs to use a particular font style and size:
>   Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts | Monospace...
> but the incoming message itself has no font specification.
> 
> So for example if you set Monospace to 20 pt Courier and Minimum font 
> size to 14, your browser will obey the 14 point spec (because HTML pages 
> do specify font styles and sizes) but your plain text emails will appear 
> in 20 point Courier.


In your example, how does the mail client know to use 20 pt instead of
14 pt?

I've never been able to find documentation or puzzle out how those
particular settings work; I just mess with them until SOMETHING looks
good, only to realize that the new settings mess something else up
terribly!


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Re: Pref to redirect mailto: links?

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, all I really want is to be able to set a minimum font size
>>>> for plain text emails and not have it automatically apply to the
>>>> browser. (Maybe that's a tall order, I wouldn't have any way of
>>>> knowing.)
>>>
>>> Actually, by definition plain text has no font specification. You can
>>> set your prefs to use a particular font style and size:
>>> Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts | Monospace...
>>> but the incoming message itself has no font specification.
>>>
>>> So for example if you set Monospace to 20 pt Courier and Minimum font
>>> size to 14, your browser will obey the 14 point spec (because HTML pages
>>> do specify font styles and sizes) but your plain text emails will appear
>>> in 20 point Courier.
>>
>>
>> In your example, how does the mail client know to use 20 pt instead of
>> 14 pt?
> 
> I'm gonna guess that it assumes plain text is fixed-width (monospace).


Whatever the reason -- that works for me in the "Compose" window, but
not in the preview pane, or after double-clicking incoming messages.

That's my biggest problems -- scanning huge numbers of incoming emails
on a high-resolution monitor, without having to put my face right
against the screen!

Is there some way to make this work for incoming emails?




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Re: outlook invites

[BIll Spikowski]

hawker wrote:
> I get a pile of MS Outlook invites. I never see them as Seamonkey (and I 
> assume Thunderbrird)just ignore them.
> It seems to be to be incredibly vain to assume everyone is using Outlook 
> but so it seems to be with sales folks.
> 
> So is there any plug in so that I actually get them and can read them? 
> Would lightning do this?

My sentiments exactly about the Outlook folks -- but I don't think
they're changing, so some kind of add-on would sure help those of us
who prefer Seamonkey





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Re: I get: SeaMonkey is already running

[BIll Spikowski]

Mike C wrote:
> When I try to open SM I get: SeaMonkey is already running, but is
> not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the
> existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system.
> 
> BUT, It's NOT running! This even happens in safe mode. And with a
> fresh re-boot.
> 
> Anyone know the answer?


>From another thread, responding to this same problem:
> 
> It may be that SeaMonkey didn't shut down properly on some
> occasion. If that happens, a file called 'parent.lock' is created,
> which prevents another instance of SeaMonkey from running.
> 
> With SeaMonkey closed, locate the SeaMonkey 1.x profile, you should
> find it here:
> 
> C:\Documents & Settings\\Application
> Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\.slt
> 
> Where '' is a random eight-character string.
> 
> The file 'parent.lock', if present, should be in the folder
> '.slt', if it is delete it. You should then find that you
> will no longer get the message that SeaMonkey is still running and
> you should be able to run SeaMonkey 2.7. Note that SeaMonkey 2.8 is
> now available, so I would suggest installing that, rather than
> v2.7.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dave.



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Re: SM 2.19 Email Line Spacing

[BIll Spikowski]

Brooke Clarke wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> The spacing between each major folder at the left and between each subject on 
> the right is at 1.5 or 2 lines whereas in 
> SM 2.15 it was single spaced.
> How to get back to single spacing?


I've been wondering the same thing!


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Re: multiple launch

[BIll Spikowski]

Rick Merrill wrote:
> Sometimes I double click when I should not; consequently
> multiple copies of browser and email/newsgroups are launched.
> 
> Is there any reason that SeaMonkey allows multiple launches?


Tabs are nice, but I often open multiple SeaMonkey browser windows so
I can easily compare information in two separate windows.

There might be similar reasons that some users would want to have
multiple email windows open at the same time.


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Sorting emails by column

[BIll Spikowski]

When looking through long lists of archived emails, I often sort by
sender or recipient or date.

Is there any way to combine these sort methods, for instance sort by
sender, then secondarily by another column such as date?

When sorting by sender, a secondary sort seems to be automatically set
according to the recipient's name. Beyond that, the emails seem to
appear in random order.
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Re: Setting Date In Email

[BIll Spikowski]

paulamhorl...@gmail.com wrote:
> I want me date to say the actual date but it is giving me the time instead.  
> How can I fix this?


For today's email, only the time is provided.

It will fix itself tomorrow!




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Re: Sorting emails by column

[BIll Spikowski]

MCBastos wrote:
> Interviewed by CNN on 23/07/2013 15:33, BIll Spikowski told the world:
>> When looking through long lists of archived emails, I often sort by
>> sender or recipient or date.
>>
>> Is there any way to combine these sort methods, for instance sort by
>> sender, then secondarily by another column such as date?
>>
>> When sorting by sender, a secondary sort seems to be automatically set
>> according to the recipient's name. Beyond that, the emails seem to
>> appear in random order.
> 
> Not my experience. From what I have noticed, when Seamonkey/Thunderbird
> sorts a list of e-mails, it starts with the *previous state of the list
> as displayed*, not with the list as saved on disk. If several messages
> share the same sorting key (for instance, sender), then they are
> displayed together but in the same order they were before the sort.
> 
> Which means that you can simply sort twice in a row -- first with the
> secondary sort criteria, then with the primary.


Yes -- that works!

That explains how to recreate the "secondary sort" I occasionally
observed in practice.

I tried sorting THREE times (first by date, then by recipient, then by
sender) but that was asking too much -- in my example, the date order
was ultimately discarded.

This is a very helpful feature!

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Re: Sorting emails by column

[BIll Spikowski]

Iceman wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:33:50 -0400, BIll Spikowski wrote in message
> <news:0kadnqej6vytuxpmnz2dnuvz_ugdn...@mozilla.org>:
>
>> When looking through long lists of archived emails, I often sort by
>> sender or recipient or date.
>>
>> Is there any way to combine these sort methods, for instance sort by
>> sender, then secondarily by another column such as date?
>>
>> When sorting by sender, a secondary sort seems to be automatically set
>> according to the recipient's name. Beyond that, the emails seem to
>> appear in random order.
> I think SeaMonkey, like all other mail clients, can only sort mail one way
> at a time.
>
> You could create a filter for your mail archive that sorts it the way you
> want. On how to create filters, see SM's helpfile.

I use filters to route incoming emails, but I didn't know they could
sort email in archives.

In the help file, I found a section on "Creating Message Filters," but
it only explains how to filter incoming messages. Are there other
kinds of filters in Seamonkey?


 

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Re: Sorting emails by column

[BIll Spikowski]

Daniel wrote:
>>
>> That explains how to recreate the "secondary sort" I occasionally
>> observed in practice.
>>
>> I tried sorting THREE times (first by date, then by recipient, then by
>> sender) but that was asking too much -- in my example, the date order
>> was ultimately discarded.
>>
>> This is a very helpful feature!
>>
> 
> Bill, aren't you a recipient on all the e-mails you receive?? So using 
> it as a sort criteria would not be real useful, would it??


No -- when I send an email from my laptop or phone, I send a BCC to
myself so that I retain an archived copy on my office computer.

On emails I send from my office computer, I don't send myself an extra
copy; I move emails from me from my "Sent" folder to my archived
folders, which are organized by subject. That way they don't show me
as a recipient

I often need to locate an email sent to me from a particular business
contact. If I could have all emails matching those criteria also
sorted by date, it would make things even better -- but that doesn't
seem possible, or at least easy.




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Re: Sorting emails by column

[BIll Spikowski]

Philip Taylor wrote:
> 
> 
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> I often need to locate an email sent to me from a particular business
>> contact. If I could have all emails matching those criteria also
>> sorted by date, it would make things even better -- but that doesn't
>> seem possible, or at least easy.
> 
> Search by business contact's e-mail address in "From: " field, then sort
> resulting search results on date ?
> 
> Philip Taylor (just tested, seems to work fine for me).


Yes -- that works, which I didn't realize until yesterday!

Then I tried a triple sort instead of a double sort, but the oldest
sort is discarded. So I can sort first by recipient, then by sender;
but I can't sort by date, then recipient, then sender.


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Re: Cut and Past from Word to Seamonkey is gibberish for Outlook users

[BIll Spikowski]

hawker wrote:
> I keep getting complaints from those who use Outlook that when I cut and 
> paste from MS Word all they get is Greek letters and/or gibberish with 
> MS font inserts and such.  I'm only cutting and pasting standard text.
> 
> It looks fine for all other mail clients.  Any ideas what causes this or 
> if there is something I can do about it? Dumping on Outlook is not an 
> answer. Folks are going to use it, no matter what we think. If it looks 
> fine in SM it should look fine in Outlook.

In Word, you're NEVER cutting and pasting just standard text!

Have you tried stripping out the MSjunk by first pasting your text
into Wordpad or Notepad, then copying it again from there?


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Re: Cut and Past from Word to Seamonkey is gibberish for Outlook users

[BIll Spikowski]

hawker wrote:
> On 8/2/2013 1:44 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> hawker wrote:
>>> I keep getting complaints from those who use Outlook that when I cut and
>>> paste from MS Word all they get is Greek letters and/or gibberish with
>>> MS font inserts and such.  I'm only cutting and pasting standard text.
>>>
>>> It looks fine for all other mail clients.  Any ideas what causes this or
>>> if there is something I can do about it? Dumping on Outlook is not an
>>> answer. Folks are going to use it, no matter what we think. If it looks
>>> fine in SM it should look fine in Outlook.
>>
>> In Word, you're NEVER cutting and pasting just standard text!
>>
>> Have you tried stripping out the MSjunk by first pasting your text
>> into Wordpad or Notepad, then copying it again from there?
>>
>>
> 
> Yep that "fixes" it but then I loose all formatting.
> Interesting that when I copy/past into Seamonkey it looks fine in 
> Seamonkey, G-Mail, My Android phone, and others but does not look 
> correct in Outlook.


Perhaps an Outlook support group could provide a solid workaround for
this problem?


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Re: Cut and Past from Word to Seamonkey is gibberish for Outlook users

[BIll Spikowski]

hawker wrote:
> On 8/2/2013 2:39 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> hawker wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2013 1:44 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>> hawker wrote:
>>>>> I keep getting complaints from those who use Outlook that when I cut and
>>>>> paste from MS Word all they get is Greek letters and/or gibberish with
>>>>> MS font inserts and such.  I'm only cutting and pasting standard text.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks fine for all other mail clients.  Any ideas what causes this or
>>>>> if there is something I can do about it? Dumping on Outlook is not an
>>>>> answer. Folks are going to use it, no matter what we think. If it looks
>>>>> fine in SM it should look fine in Outlook.
>>>> In Word, you're NEVER cutting and pasting just standard text!
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried stripping out the MSjunk by first pasting your text
>>>> into Wordpad or Notepad, then copying it again from there?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yep that "fixes" it but then I loose all formatting.
>>> Interesting that when I copy/past into Seamonkey it looks fine in
>>> Seamonkey, G-Mail, My Android phone, and others but does not look
>>> correct in Outlook.
>>
>> Perhaps an Outlook support group could provide a solid workaround for
>> this problem?
>>
>>
> Are we going to play the pass the blame game now?
> I don't have outlook, I don't use outlook, but I recognize the majority 
> of the business world does - right or wrong it is the reality. We can't 
> pawn this off as "outlook is broken" it is what folks use. Seamonkey 
> should play nicely with it, weather we think it is broken, compliant or 
> not. It is similar to the way folks get their hackles up on the "this 
> website looks fine in everything but Mozilla X" - Mozilla X group "the 
> website is broken tell them to fix it, I'm not taking responsibility" - 
> OP "But it works fine in everything else"

I don't understand your rant. You have a problem converting data from
one MS product to another MS product -- and you're upset that someone
suggests you consult MS experts for assistance?
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Re: Cut and Past from Word to Seamonkey is gibberish for Outlook users

[BIll Spikowski]

hawker wrote:
> On 8/2/2013 8:14 PM, MCBastos wrote:
>> Interviewed by CNN on 02/08/2013 18:28, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:
>>> hawker wrote:
>>>
 No I have a problem that the way SeaMonkey takes clipboard data from
 an MS product does not work with all e-mail clients and that SeaMonkey
 WYSIWYG is not working correctly under the hood. I'm sure if I went
 from Word to Outlook directly it would work fine. It is SeaMonkey
 that seems to mangle it. This is a SeaMonkey issue not MS. My guess
 is it is a Clipboard parsing problem in SeaMonkey.
>>>
>>> Probably not. SeaMonkey is probably being too obedient and capturing all
>>> the garbage codes Word supplies instead of stripping them out. For
>>> example, I tried pasting one sentence from a Word 2010 document into an
>>> HTML composition window in SeaMonkey, and I got this:
>>>
>>> 
>>>   The body always operates as an integrated
>>> mechanism, and “forms”
>>> behavioral or motor acts in strict compliance with the conditions
>>> in which it
>>> is placed.
>>> followed by 423 more lines of code containing 20,044 characters
>>> (including spaces). Yes, that's 20 thousand characters, not 20!
>>>
>>> The sentence itself was well-formed; the only change was that the curly
>>> quotes were rendered as HTML character entities, which is not a problem.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I confirm this behavior. I started with a *blank* Word document. I typed
>> *one* word in it, with default formatting. I copied that word and pasted
>> it into a new Seamonkey HTML-formatted message. Then I saved the message
>> and looked at the source code.
>>
>> Surprise, surprise: that one word turned into 20 kb of garbage. And it's
>> easy to tell that the garbage originated in Word, because, well, things
>> like  elements (nonstandard), classes named "Mso"-something (created
>> by Word) and conditional comments (another nonstandard, Microsoft-only
>> technology)
>>
>> What I think is happening...
>>
>> 1. Word places a lot of proprietary garbage on the clipboard yet tags it
>> as "HTML"
>> 2. Thunderbird/Seamonkey believes the tag and accepts the paste "as is."
>> 3. It probably tweaks the content a little in order to mesh with the
>> rest of the HTML-formatted message.
>> 4. Most non-MS mail clients ignore the proprietary garbage and render
>> the message the same as the Seamonkey-user sender intended.
>> 5. Outlook, however, attempts to interpret those remains of the
>> proprietary garbage and fails horribly
>>
>> The only way I see for fixing it from the Mozilla end would be to add
>> code for detecting MS proprietary garbage in the clipboard and run it
>> through a sanitizer (something like HTMLtidy with the -word2000 option)
>> to clean it up.
>>
> 
> Thank you for being the first person to fully explain what is going on 
> in a way I can understand.
> I'm still not sure what my best solution is but now I better understand 
> the issue.
> 
> What I often have to do for work is discuss something going on in an 
> e-mail, and there may be some text or data from a word document - say a 
> specification or chart that I want to past in. Often it has formatting, 
> bold, number list etc that I want to preserve so copying to text first 
> means I have to re-apply all the formatting.
> 
> I wonder if there are any other formatted programs that can clean things 
> up as you suggest without loosing the formating.


I've been assuming that you need to preserve the editability of what
you pull from Word. If not, why not just attach a screenshot? Or use
screen capture software like Snagit: http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.html

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Re: Missing An Add-On?

[BIll Spikowski]

Larry S. wrote:
> Trying to view this site, but it won't ever open. Mostly just blank and 
> saying "done", with an occasional start (showing connections to 
> something), then stops.
> 
> http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?latitude=44.47&longitude=-71.18&zoomLevel=8&opacity=1&basemap=0014&layers=0039
> 
> I must be missing some plug-in or extension. Any thoughts? All ideas and 
> help gratefully appreciated.


I access this page daily from several different computers -- and have
been for quite some time. Never a problem, and I haven't added or
disable any plugins.

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Re: Password manager

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Philip Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Trane Francks wrote:
>>
>>> v2.20 on OS X gives me the cookies tab,
>>
>> -- ditto -- Windows 7
>>
>>> which is a royal pain when I've
>>> gone into the PASSWORD manager. Sure, it's not a job stopper, but I do
>>> find it annoying that going into manage passwords does not immediately
>>> present me with password management. While it is arguably not a bug, it
>>> is a design flaw.
>>
>> On what basis can it be argued to be anything other than a bug ?
>> There is already a Data Manager that is designed to present all
>> categories of data at the same time; for the Password Manager to
>> present anything other than passwords is clearly a bug.
> 
> Since you and I are both using the same version of SM on the same 
> version of Windows, I wonder if you don't have an add-on that's gumming 
> up the works? Can you reproduce the bug with add-ons disabled?


I have the same behavior, with NO add-ons installed.

When selecting "Password Manager" from the Tools menu, then Manage
Stored Passwords, the full data manager also opens, with the cookies
tab selected and a massive list of URLs on the left -- WAY more than
those URLs for which I've save passwords.

This has been SM's behavior for me since the introduction of Data
Manager. (I always run the latest version of SM on Windows XP.)

It's always seemed odd to me, since that's the same behavior seen when
selecting Data Manager instead of Password Manager


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Re: Password manager

[BIll Spikowski]

Trane Francks wrote:
> On 8/25/13 9:06 AM +0900, Ray Davison wrote:
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You're not intstalling anything, it's a link that invokes the old-style
>>> password manager.  No installation, no looking for a file in the
>>> profile, just click that link.  I've got it saved as a bookmark so it's
>>> easy to get to.
>>>
>> That is what I said, with
>> chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul there is nothing to
>> install/add.
>>
>> ray
>>
> Yep. I've bookmarked it, too. Much cleaner than the Data Manager 
> interface. :)



I've bookmarked it too -- but it reminds me of the shortcoming of the
old approach, where you often had to scroll through the entire list to
find a particular domain, since it lists the http domains separately
from https, etc. etc.

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Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

[BIll Spikowski]

I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to adjust.

When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
looking like garbage.

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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

[BIll Spikowski]

Daniel wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
>> HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to adjust.
>>
>> When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
>> in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
>> hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
>> time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
>> looking like garbage.
> 
> Bill, I thought that if you replied to a "text" e-mail, your reply was 
> also a "text" e-mail. Similarly, if you're replying to an HTML e-mail, 
> your reply is in HTML.

That's the behavior I'd prefer -- it seems logical. However, on all my
computers, without the shift key, HTML gets converted to plain text,
which looks awful.




> Unless you press the shift key, as you mention, which changes your reply 
> to the opposite format.
> 
> Have you had a look at Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format 
> to see if that might give you what you want??

Let me experiment. Right now I have that preference set to "send the
message in both plain text and HTML" -- because none of the other
options sounds closer to what I'm looking for. Also, because I've
never figured out how Seamonkey supposedly knows whether my recipients
are able to receive HTML -- I have no clue, so how could I instruct SM???



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Re: Seamonkey and Foxit

[BIll Spikowski]

NFN Smith wrote:
> This one is mostly annoyance-level stuff, but I'll ask anyway...
>
> I use Foxit as my default PDF reader, and I let it integrate with 
> Seamonkey.  I notice that when I open a PDF attachment in the mail 
> client, sometimes it happens where I get the animated graphic that Foxit 
> displays to tell me that it's downloading, but that the download stalls 
> at around 70 some-odd percent.  I can see the entire document in Foxit, 
> although it's work to get around the in-progress graphic.
>
> This one is intermittent, and I don't always see it, when opening a PDF 
> attachment.  I'm also not aware of it happening with the browser.
>
> As noted, this is annoyance-level.  If I really want to get around it, I 
> can save the attachment, and open with Foxit externally.
>
> Any clues as to why this might be happening?

I can't help with your problem; but I'm wondering how you managed to
integrate Foxit with Seamonkey -- I've never figured out how to do that!

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Re: Short drop-down dialog...

[BIll Spikowski]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> Rufus wrote:
>> Chris Ilias wrote:
>>> On 2013-09-27 9:49 PM, Rufus wrote:
 since it doesn't seem like the coders are going to fix this
 seemingly simple problem any time soon (if ever), is there anything I
 can do using a user CSS to fix it myself?
>>> Could you provide more details about what the problem is? Thanks.
>>>
>> Someone here said this is a known bug, it was introduced after SM 2.13.2
>> - when the Master Password prompt dialog is presented the bottom edge is
>> drawn short and the buttons run off the bottom edge.  I think it's a Mac
>> only bug, SM Modern Theme.
>>
>> It's further aggravated by the fact that SM is ignoring my pref setting
>> for request for Master Password, so when that random request happens I
>> then also have to look at this problem as well - the combination of the
>> two bugs together is four times as annoying.
>>
>> So I've halted at 2.13.2 on the machines I use most and only keep up
>> with the latest on my laptop...just to keep up with what hasn't been
>> addressed.  At least I only have to deal with the random Master requests
>> in 2.13.2.
>>
>> But it occurred to me that maybe I could fix it in userChrome.css - can I?
>>
> I dont' use a master pw so I can't see that.  But it does the same thing 
> in the spell check dialog box.
>
> Windows 7 both 32 and 64 bit.  XP 32 bit.

I suddenly have the same experience with the spell check dialog box,
on Windows XP -- the bottom is cut off.
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Re: PDF's not displaying

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WaltS wrote:
> On 10/17/2013 09:02 PM, Eric wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I was getting tired of Adobe not updating, so I switched over to Foxit,
>> the problem is that every time I try and view a pdf file online foxit
>> comes up with unable to display, not to mention that it downloads the
>> file to a temp folder.  But still it doesn't display even from the
>> download, says that it is corrupt.
>>
>> Tried to go back to Adobe, but no matter what I do, I can't get it to be
>> the default viewer.  I've gone in to the edit preferences, and re-set
>> the default viewer in there.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Eric
> 
> 
> Install this extension and forget about plugins.
> 
> [PDF Viewer :: Add-ons for 
> SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/pdfjs/)


I tried that for a while -- the functionality made me feel like I was
back in 1993!

After all my aggravations with Adobe, my experiments with other ways
to view PDFs in Seamonkey have returned me to Adobe Reader. I'm not
happy, but at least it mostly works


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Re: Adobe PDF Viewer Addon

[BIll Spikowski]

Connie wrote:
> On 04/11/2013 04:36, Peter Anton wrote:
>> Is there a version of Acrobat that works with Seamonkey?
>> Should I use another PDF viewer?
> 
> I use Fox-It.  It's a lighter PDF reader but has all the functionality 
> (AFAIK) 
> of Acrobat.


Well, I've never been able to get Fox-It to open a PDF file in a
Seamonkey tab!


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Re: Would someone test this site for maps?

[BIll Spikowski]

Robert Gault wrote:
> I am using Seamonkey 2.22 and as of today have been unable to get any map 
> information from a gasoline price service. I can't tell if the problem is 
> with 
> Seamonkey, my installation, or the site. Would readers please test this site 
> and 
> report results.
> 
> http://www.detroitgasprices.com/map_gas_prices.aspx?z=11&lat=42.448692&long=-83.022577&sid=68481&ft=A
> 
> Actually can you get any maps for stations to work on
> http://www.detroitgasprices.com


Works perfectly here...


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Re: SM with dropbox

[BIll Spikowski]

Rick Merrill wrote:
> Has anyone figured out how to use dropbox (2. GB free)
> with SeaMonkey?
> 
> In other words, no matter which computer you are using the SM
> email, news, and bookmarks would appear as the same.
> 
> Of course, there might be 'issues' if two people tried to use
> the same SM account at the same time !-)

The only issue I have with using Dropbox and Seamonkey is that when I
ask Dropbox to let me view my files on Dropbox.com instead of my local
Dropbox folder, it forces me into Internet Explorer -- I can't figure
out how to change that.

But are you asking if Dropbox can be used to sync Seamonkey features
on different computers?

The "Sync" feature currently in Seamonkey does that for bookmarks (but
not for passwords).

For email, what do you want that's not provided by IMAP? Do you want
to remove emails from the server using POP3, then store them in a
Dropbox folder so they'd be accessible from a different computer that
also uses Seamonkey?


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Re: SM with dropbox

[BIll Spikowski]

Jens Hatlak wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> But are you asking if Dropbox can be used to sync Seamonkey features
>> on different computers?
>>
>> The "Sync" feature currently in Seamonkey does that for bookmarks (but
>> not for passwords).
> 
> Huh? Sync *can* synchronize stored passwords.


I stand corrected!

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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

[BIll Spikowski]

Daniel wrote:
> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>> Rufus wrote:
>>> Certainly some of the most annoying ones - like the short drop downs,
>>> path following, the problems with the Profile Manager - are SM specific
>>> interface issues, right?  Why do bugs like these persist so long?
>>
>> Hey, actual examples! So, for the fun of it, let's check...
>>
>> * Short drop downs. IIRC, this is a Mac-specific issue. Most SM
>> developers don't have a Mac, and at least some, like me, don't want one
>> (which is their personal taste, not to argue with). IIRC, there are only
>> two SM developers who have a Mac at all, and both are known for having
>> very little time. They do what they can, but analyzing the root causes
>> of such bugs probably doesn't fit their time schedule. All you can do is
>> a) analyze the bug as good as you can (e.g. by collecting all
>> occurrences, making screen shots and attaching them to the bug) and b)
>> try to narrow down when the issue first appeared, ideally down to the
>> nightly builds level, so that identifying the causing change in code
>> becomes possible.
> 
> Jens, could you please check out my Comment 11 on 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812050, as I'm seeing a 
> clipped screen on my Win7 SM 2.22b2 Spell Checker screen.


These days, the Spell Checker dialog is ALWAYS clipped at the bottom
on my Windows XP system. I haven't seen the problem on any other
dialog boxes.

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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

[BIll Spikowski]

Daniel wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>>>> Rufus wrote:
>>>>> Certainly some of the most annoying ones - like the short drop downs,
>>>>> path following, the problems with the Profile Manager - are SM specific
>>>>> interface issues, right?  Why do bugs like these persist so long?
>>>>
>>>> Hey, actual examples! So, for the fun of it, let's check...
>>>>
>>>> * Short drop downs. IIRC, this is a Mac-specific issue. Most SM
>>>> developers don't have a Mac, and at least some, like me, don't want one
>>>> (which is their personal taste, not to argue with). IIRC, there are only
>>>> two SM developers who have a Mac at all, and both are known for having
>>>> very little time. They do what they can, but analyzing the root causes
>>>> of such bugs probably doesn't fit their time schedule. All you can do is
>>>> a) analyze the bug as good as you can (e.g. by collecting all
>>>> occurrences, making screen shots and attaching them to the bug) and b)
>>>> try to narrow down when the issue first appeared, ideally down to the
>>>> nightly builds level, so that identifying the causing change in code
>>>> becomes possible.
>>>
>>> Jens, could you please check out my Comment 11 on
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812050, as I'm seeing a
>>> clipped screen on my Win7 SM 2.22b2 Spell Checker screen.
>>
>>
>> These days, the Spell Checker dialog is ALWAYS clipped at the bottom
>> on my Windows XP system. I haven't seen the problem on any other
>> dialog boxes.
> 
> When you say "These days,", how long are we talking, Bill??
> 
> (Glad to see it's not just me with Windows problems!!)


At least several weeks now. Since the problem doesn't really interfere
with how I use Seamonkey, I hadn't paid it too much attention.


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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

[BIll Spikowski]

Daniel wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>>>>>> Rufus wrote:
>>>>>>> Certainly some of the most annoying ones - like the short drop downs,
>>>>>>> path following, the problems with the Profile Manager - are SM specific
>>>>>>> interface issues, right?  Why do bugs like these persist so long?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, actual examples! So, for the fun of it, let's check...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Short drop downs. IIRC, this is a Mac-specific issue. Most SM
>>>>>> developers don't have a Mac, and at least some, like me, don't want one
>>>>>> (which is their personal taste, not to argue with). IIRC, there are only
>>>>>> two SM developers who have a Mac at all, and both are known for having
>>>>>> very little time. They do what they can, but analyzing the root causes
>>>>>> of such bugs probably doesn't fit their time schedule. All you can do is
>>>>>> a) analyze the bug as good as you can (e.g. by collecting all
>>>>>> occurrences, making screen shots and attaching them to the bug) and b)
>>>>>> try to narrow down when the issue first appeared, ideally down to the
>>>>>> nightly builds level, so that identifying the causing change in code
>>>>>> becomes possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens, could you please check out my Comment 11 on
>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812050, as I'm seeing a
>>>>> clipped screen on my Win7 SM 2.22b2 Spell Checker screen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These days, the Spell Checker dialog is ALWAYS clipped at the bottom
>>>> on my Windows XP system. I haven't seen the problem on any other
>>>> dialog boxes.
>>>
>>> When you say "These days,", how long are we talking, Bill??
>>>
>>> (Glad to see it's not just me with Windows problems!!)
>>
>>
>> At least several weeks now. Since the problem doesn't really interfere
>> with how I use Seamonkey, I hadn't paid it too much attention.
> 
> Reason I asked, Bill, was that my Win7 Internet was non-functional for a 
> good while, so I updated from about 2.18 to 2.22 in one go, so the 
> problem could have occured anywhere in that time, but you seem to be 
> suggesting SM was o.k. in 2.21 but broken in 2.22.
> 
> Jens Hatlak (SM Dev team) now seems to want me to start a separate Bug 
> for this Windows problem (as distinct to the Mac's problem), so knowing 
> the release/time frame is handy.


I wish I had been paying more attention!

I'm not certain that the problem is new to 2.22; it's possible it
appeared back in 2.21.

Another complicating factor is that I sometimes wait a few weeks
before allowing SM to update. One extension that's critical to me,
Lightning (which lets me communicate with colleagues who use the
Outlook calendar), NEVER is ready when a SM update is released. I
think I understand why, and it's not something that SM can fix, but it
sure wrecks my day-to-day user experience...


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Re: xpi file download to disk?

[BIll Spikowski]

WaltS wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 06:41 AM, Desiree wrote:
>> Why did I have to use IE 10 just now in order to download an xpi  file
>> from Addons?  SeaMonkey wouldn't let me do anything because the file
>> needs to have the maxversion number edited (to work on the current
>> SeaMonkey) hence the need to download to disk. So, I tried to download
>> from Fx which I couldn't do either. Fx only offered to install it not
>> download it.
>>
>> What happened to being able to download the xpi files to disk from Fx
>> and SM?  Why has that option disappeared?
>>
>> This extension works fine (so far at least) on SeaMonkey after I edited
>> the maxversion number.
> 
> 
> What extension?
> 
> Just tried in SeaMonkey with a Not avaliable for SeaMonkey theme. 
> Right-clicked on the grayed out "Add to SeaMonkey" button, selected 
> "Save Link Target As..." from the context menu, and the .xpi file 
> downloaded just fine.


I'm having the same experience as WaltS -- specifically on the latest
Lightning versions.


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Re: SeaMonkey Shutdown

[BIll Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:
> Windows 7 (x64)
> SeaMonkey 2.22.1
> 
> Very often, the seamonkey.exe process fails to die when I shutdown
> SeaMonkey.  I usually shut it down by selecting the X in the upper-right
> corner of the window.  Several minutes later, I cannot relaunch
> SeaMonkey without first using Ctrl-Alt-Delete and terminating the
> seamonkey.exe process.
> 
> Is this a SeaMonkey problem or a Windows 7 problem?


It's not specific to Windows 7; it's a long-standing problem in WinXP
as well.



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Re: SM not making connection with Internet!

[BIll Spikowski]

Dustbin wrote:
> 
> 
> A few days ago I received a pop-up advice that SM 2.22.1 was available. I 
> dutifully updated as usual. Then I found that FF returns unfound for all 
> URLs. I 
> reverted to SM v. 2.22 and all is well - once more.
> 
> Then I got the same with updates to FF and TB. I assume there is a 
> connection. 
> Some change to the common internet connection software.
> 
> Anyone else having this problem? Anyone know anything about this?


I haven't experienced that problem -- but I also reverted to SM 2.22
to regain use of the Lightning extension. Fortunately the reversion
process is simple and trouble-free.


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Re: Lightning 2.8b1 not working with Seamonkey 2.23b1

[BIll Spikowski]

Jens Hatlak wrote:
> Gerd Ott wrote:
>> But if you hit the "settings" in "Add-on-Manager" , the (tabbed) Browser
>> keeps freezing, can only be killed by taskmgr.
> 
> That's an old known issue. Quoting from the release notes:
> 
> "Lightning options cannot be opened from the Add-ons Manager. Instead, 
> Lightning preferences can be accessed from Preferences/Lightning"


I can't find any Lightning preferences -- where exactly do you see them?

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Re: Lightning 2.8b1 not working with Seamonkey 2.23b1

[BIll Spikowski]

WaltS wrote:
> On 12/11/2013 01:50 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>>> Gerd Ott wrote:
>>>> But if you hit the "settings" in "Add-on-Manager" , the (tabbed) Browser
>>>> keeps freezing, can only be killed by taskmgr.
>>>
>>> That's an old known issue. Quoting from the release notes:
>>>
>>> "Lightning options cannot be opened from the Add-ons Manager. Instead,
>>> Lightning preferences can be accessed from Preferences/Lightning"
>>
>>
>> I can't find any Lightning preferences -- where exactly do you see them?
>>
> 
> 
> Edit > Preferences > Calendar in my SM 2.22.


I seem them there also -- thank you!


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Re: phantom email addresses

[BIll Spikowski]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> I've checked all my address books.  When I start to enter certain 
> addresses I'm offered choices, some of which are not in any address 
> books.  Any idea why/how/where these are?


I've noticed the same behavior -- the addresses are ones I'm familiar
with (often obsolete by now), but I can't find them in ANY of my
address books, so they can't be deleted. I'd love to know where to
find them!


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Re: phantom email addresses

[BIll Spikowski]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> I've checked all my address books.  When I start to enter certain
>>> addresses I'm offered choices, some of which are not in any address
>>> books.  Any idea why/how/where these are?
>>
>>
>> I've noticed the same behavior -- the addresses are ones I'm familiar
>> with (often obsolete by now), but I can't find them in ANY of my
>> address books, so they can't be deleted. I'd love to know where to
>> find them!
> 
> Have you checked the address book called "Collected Addresses"? In 
> general, it collects addresses it sees in incoming messages, but you can 
> set it to collect addresses from outgoing messages as well.
> 
> Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Addressing:
> [x] Add email addresses to my: [Collected Addresses]
> 
> If you want to purge an obsolete address, make sure to check this AB, 
> otherwise SM will continue to use it for autocomplete. Once you've 
> purged it, SM won't see it again so it won't add it back.
> 
> To search an address book for an obsolete address, enter all or part of 
> the desired address in the search window, not the person's name (which 
> can vary). And remember that AOHell senders give no name, just an 
> address, so you won't find them in "Collected Addresses" by searching 
> for their names.


When I first noticed this problem, often the person appeared in
"collected addresses," which was fine because it was easy to find and
delete the obsolete entry.

But now I specifically look in "collected addresses," by name and by
email, but still can't find them. I'm wondering if I may have an old
"collected addresses" file on my computer that doesn't show up in the
Address Book window, yet is visible to the Mail program when I'm
composing a message. I don't understand how or where the address books
are stored, so I'm stymied following down this lead...

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Re: Seamonkey 2.23 linux - Lightning not working

[BIll Spikowski]

Pololo wrote:
> On 13/12/13 10:14, Mexx Headrmmm wrote:
>> »Mexx Headrmmm« schrieb (wrote) am (on) 13.12.2013 09:56
>>> Yep, same here .. valid lightning version should be 2.8b1. but
>>> works only with Windows-OS
>> Maybe this helps:
>>
>> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/candidates/2.8b1-candidates/build1/linux-i686/
>>
>> or
>>
>> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/candidates/2.8b1-candidates/build1/linux-x86_64/
>>
>> -Markus
>>
> I have the same problem . revert to SM 2.22 with lightning 2.7b1.


Same problem here; same solution!
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Re: phantom email addresses

[BIll Spikowski]

GerardJan wrote:
> EE wrote:
>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>> I've checked all my address books.  When I start to enter certain
>>>> addresses I'm offered choices, some of which are not in any address
>>>> books.  Any idea why/how/where these are?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've noticed the same behavior -- the addresses are ones I'm familiar
>>> with (often obsolete by now), but I can't find them in ANY of my
>>> address books, so they can't be deleted. I'd love to know where to
>>> find them!
>>>
>>>
>> Does the operating system have its own address book?  Mine (Mac OS)
>> does, and that is where all my address entries are.  It is readable from
>> SeaMonkey, so is convenient to use.
>>
> 
> that does not mean that Apple is better then Microsoft


No -- but that sure would be a nice feature in Windows.

It's pretty silly that I maintain three address books for three
different pieces of software...

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Re: Seamonkey 2.23 linux - Lightning not working

[BIll Spikowski]

WaltS wrote:
> On 12/13/2013 08:52 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> Pololo wrote:
>>> On 13/12/13 10:14, Mexx Headrmmm wrote:
>>>> »Mexx Headrmmm« schrieb (wrote) am (on) 13.12.2013 09:56
>>>>> Yep, same here .. valid lightning version should be 2.8b1. but
>>>>> works only with Windows-OS
>>>> Maybe this helps:
>>>>
>>>> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/candidates/2.8b1-candidates/build1/linux-i686/
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/candidates/2.8b1-candidates/build1/linux-x86_64/
>>>>
>>>> -Markus
>>>>
>>> I have the same problem . revert to SM 2.22 with lightning 2.7b1.
>>
>>
>> Same problem here; same solution!
>>
> 
> 
> Any error messages in the Error Console?

Didn't know that existed! Lots of errors reported; but nothing that's
obviously related.


> Has anyone filed a bug report?

I haven't; but this is a longstanding problem that's been discussed
frequently on this list.





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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

[BIll Spikowski]

Dick Hoffman wrote:
> (This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I 
> can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. 
> Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors, 
> graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed. 
> However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email 
> accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain 
> text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there 
> something I can change to retain the original formatting?


After you click "forward" but before you forward the message to your
wife, is the HTML formatting still present, or gone already?

I have the same situation, and the formatting is gone already. My
workaround is to hold down the shift key when clicking "forward" or
"reply."

If your formatting is still visible on your computer but gone when the
email reaches your wife, your problem is different!

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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

[BIll Spikowski]

Dick Hoffman wrote:
> On 12/21/2013 12:19 AM, regz91 wrote:
>> Dick Hoffman wrote:
>>> (This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I
>>> can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system.
>>> Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors,
>>> graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed.
>>> However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email
>>> accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain
>>> text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there
>>> something I can change to retain the original formatting?
>>> Dick Hoffman
>> What is "send format" set in
>> Edit ==> Preferences ==> Mail & Newsgroups ==> Send Format


> The only thing set here is the first bullet, "Ask me...".

Here, I've tried changing "Ask me..." to "Send the message in both..."
-- but that didn't change the odd behavior.

The "Shift - Reply" or "Shift - Forward" methods work here; but about
half the time I forget to do so, then I have to try again. Not a big
deal, but an unnecessary annoyance many times each day, now that most
of my correspondents seem to have switched to HTML mail.

This doesn't seem like sensible default behavior, that's why I'm as
curious as the OP what might be causing this on my system. Other
people report this behavior too, but most don't experience it, so I'm
assuming it's some preference or other, but I've been unsuccessful in
tracking it down.

Everyone in my address book is listed as "Unknown" after "Prefers to
receive messages formatted as..." (because how would I know how the
500 people in my address book like to receive email?). I don't see how
that could be my problem, because the HTML formatting disappears
before I select someone to forward a message to -- but if I could fix
this problem once and for all by changing all those entries, I'd do it!


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Misplaced a folder of important bookmarks!

[Bill Spikowski]

I save a LOT of bookmarks and keep them organized in a complex nest of folders.

Recently an important folder seems have disappeared; I can no longer find it in 
Bookmarks Manager.

I can find individual bookmarks in that folder using the search feature, so I 
know the folder hasn't been deleted -- I may have dragged it to somewhere else 
in my folder structure, but I can't find the folder.

Is there any way to figure out the LOCATION of an individual bookmark in the 
Bookmarks Manager?
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Re: Misplaced a folder of important bookmarks!

[Bill Spikowski]

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 5 juin 2015, Bill Spikowski a écrit :


Recently an important folder seems have disappeared; I can no longer find it in 
Bookmarks Manager.

I can find individual bookmarks in that folder using the search feature, so I 
know the folder hasn't been deleted -- I may have dragged it to somewhere else 
in my folder structure, but I can't find the folder.

Is there any way to figure out the LOCATION of an individual bookmark in the 
Bookmarks Manager?


Load the bookmark. Click on the bookmark icon in the address bar. Click "Choose" in the 
drop-down "Folder" list. This will highlight the bookmark's folder in the tree.

WFM in 2.12.1, at least.


I had never tried that -- turns out my missing folder was in the most 
improbable location, and has now been moved back where it belongs!

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Re: Misplaced a folder of important bookmarks!

[Bill Spikowski]

JAS wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

I save a LOT of bookmarks and keep them organized in a complex nest of
folders.

Recently an important folder seems have disappeared; I can no longer
find it in Bookmarks Manager.

I can find individual bookmarks in that folder using the search feature,
so I know the folder hasn't been deleted -- I may have dragged it to
somewhere else in my folder structure, but I can't find the folder.

Is there any way to figure out the LOCATION of an individual bookmark in
the Bookmarks Manager?

You might look at 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/show-parent-folder/?src=ss I 
use it with SM 2.32.1 after I run it through the Extension Convertor at 
http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/ -- Works great for me. You set the 
columns you want to show in the search when using the Bookmark manger by going 
to View in the manger.


Thanks for the tip -- this extension works great for me too! It enables a "parent 
folder" column in BookMarks Manager -- and I especially like the 'reverse folder 
hierarchy' option.

A few years back I had about given up on bookmarks. Then the Sync feature was 
added; once I didn't have to maintain different bookmark files on each 
computer, I started keeping bookmarks again and organizing them. The loss of 
this single folder ('secret' tips on how to make Microsoft Word useful instead 
of making me insane) reminded me how much I've come to rely on bookmarks.

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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

[Bill Spikowski]

Ant wrote:


Once in a while, I noticed my sent draft e-mails leaves a copy behind in my 
SeaMonkey's Local Folders' Drafts folder. I have not yet to figure out the 
pattern why this happens once in a while. Has anyone noticed this too?


I don't use whatever Seamonkey means by Local Folders (embarrassed to say after 
decades with this suite that I've never figured out its purpose).

But I regularly find emails left behind in my regular Drafts folder after I've 
sent them. It's a bit of a mystery; one definite cause is when I've saved a 
draft email, then modified it and sent it without having resaved it first. It's 
rather a pain; I always have to go back and be sure that email actually went 
out before I delete the remnant in the Drafts folder.


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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

[Bill Spikowski]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Ant wrote:


Once in a while, I noticed my sent draft e-mails leaves a copy behind
in my SeaMonkey's Local Folders' Drafts folder. I have not yet to
figure out the pattern why this happens once in a while. Has anyone
noticed this too?


I don't use whatever Seamonkey means by Local Folders (embarrassed to
say after decades with this suite that I've never figured out its purpose).



You don't see your posts to this newsgroup in the Sent folder under Local 
folders? It's where all 1420 of my sent messages are stored.


Nope. Not sure why not. I only see my newsgroups posting in the actual 
newsgroup; not in any Sent folders. That's not a problem to me.





Also where drafts go if you save a post as a draft, so you can proofread it, 
before sending.


I save draft emails all the time because I may work on them over a period of 
hours or even days, and SM tends to crash from time to time (usually the 
browser, but that takes down the whole suite).

I don't think I've ever saved a draft post to a newsgroup; I often print them 
to proofread them before posting, but that's about it!


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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

[Bill Spikowski]

Daniel wrote:

On 15/06/2015 11:40 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Ant wrote:


Once in a while, I noticed my sent draft e-mails leaves a copy behind
in my SeaMonkey's Local Folders' Drafts folder. I have not yet to
figure out the pattern why this happens once in a while. Has anyone
noticed this too?


I don't use whatever Seamonkey means by Local Folders (embarrassed to
say after decades with this suite that I've never figured out its
purpose).



You don't see your posts to this newsgroup in the Sent folder under
Local folders? It's where all 1420 of my sent messages are stored.


Nope. Not sure why not. I only see my newsgroups posting in the actual
newsgroup; not in any Sent folders. That's not a problem to me.


Bill, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings ( *Note* : *NOT* Edit->Preferences->Mail & 
Newsgroups), select an newsgroup account, select "Copies & Folders" for that account and have a look at 
the top section, "When sending messages". Have you told SM where to Automatically place a copy in:??

That's where your posts to these newsgroups should be stored.

Looked there; it indicates my renamed version of Local Folders. But the sent 
messages aren't there, not sure why. No drafts there either; but I don't know 
that I've ever saved a draft newsgroup posting.

Really not a problem to me -- just a curiosity!







Also where drafts go if you save a post as a draft, so you can
proofread it, before sending.


I save draft emails all the time because I may work on them over a
period of hours or even days, and SM tends to crash from time to time
(usually the browser, but that takes down the whole suite).

I don't think I've ever saved a draft post to a newsgroup; I often print
them to proofread them before posting, but that's about it!


The screen I mentioned above also indicates where any drafts for that account 
are stored, or allows you to set where they should be stored.



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Re: NoSquint For SeaMonkey

[Bill Spikowski]

fixitmanariz...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, November 20, 2011 at 3:34:08 PM UTC-7, PhillipJones wrote:

Has Mr Chee made any progress on updating NoSquint for the 2.5 and later
series of SeaMonkey? I've Contacted original Auto haven't heard from him
yet. But have read in forums on the question he is downright hostile at
the mention of SeaMonkey.


Mr. Chee is a frequent contributor here and he's unfailingly polite and helpful!

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Re: Does sync-ing work in SeaMonkey?

[Bill Spikowski]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Adrian Kalla schrieb:


That's not the correct answer.



But currently future of Sync is unknown, see


and similar,




That's awful!

Sync was a game-changer for me; don't know how I could go forward without it 
(or something comparable)!

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Re: 2.33.1 Page reload problem

[Bill Spikowski]

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

I am currently using version SM 2.33.1 in Windows 7 Pro. My browser frequently 
stalls in the process of trying to load a web page. Using the page Reload 
feature used to reload the same page, but now it opens up a second folder that 
tries to open the same page simultaneously. I end up with two folders that get 
stalled while trying to load one page.

Any clues on this issue? Thanks in advance for your help.




Does this happen only on certain web pages? If so, if you can provide a sample 
URL, others can check the behavior on their machines.

If not, have you tried starting SM in safe mode and trying again?  (HELP | 
RESTART WITH ADD-ONS DISABLED)  If the problem goes away, then the likely 
culprit is one of your add-ons.
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Re: No Response?

[Bill Spikowski]

Marie DeWees wrote:

I downloaded Sea Monkey.  Set up one email account and guess what? It
has the same issues as Thunderbird.  There are 145 messages from the
same vendor.  I am sure this is either a virus or a filter, but I do
NOT know how to fix it and Thunderbird support is NOT helping me. I
have sent long emails to them to no avail.

So, can this be fixed?  Why is Sea Monkey downloading the mess I have
with Thunderbird?  I specifically said not to include any prior settings.
I, obviously need an email client.  I would prefer it to be a Mozilla
product. But, if you cannot help me I will have to find something else.
Can you, at the least, let me know if you can help.  This has gone on
far too long.

I use Windows 7 as my OS. SeaMonkey version 2.33.1



Can you explain your situation a little more?

When you installed Seamonkey, did you set up your email account using a POP 
mail server or an IMAP mail server? Seamonkey is happy to use either system for 
your email, but that choice affects how it works, especially how it knows 
whether you want to store your emails on your own computer or keep them stored 
on your internet provider's server.

There are experts here on both systems.

If you don't remember, go to Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, then click on "Server 
Settings" in the left window, then look on the top line in the right window, right after 
"Server Type:"

If you delete the 145 messages you don't want, do you get the same 145 messages 
the next day? or immediately?

Can you tell where this unwanted message is coming from?



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Re: Password Manager

[Bill Spikowski]

SameulS wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

may I ask your to read and consider
?
All those hints also are relevant for support requests here.

"has stopped working" is too meaningless, and it's a question of
courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail
header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT
8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2.

Best regards

Rainer Bielefeld


I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you for 
pointing this out to me.

Warmest regards.



Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it 
recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too.
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Re: Password Manager

[Bill Spikowski]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 08/03/2015 09:34 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

SameulS wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

may I ask your to read and consider
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines>?

All those hints also are relevant for support requests here.

"has stopped working" is too meaningless, and it's a question of
courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail
header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT
8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2.

Best regards

Rainer Bielefeld


I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you
for pointing this out to me.

Warmest regards.



Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it
recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too.



It helps to read original posts.

"My PW Manager has stopped working for some strange reason on SM 2.33.1 on a W 
8.1pro machine."



The additional information I requested would help too.

If the OP recently upgraded from say SM 2.26, then his is a well-known problem.

If his problem began after updating from say SM 2.31, or unrelated to an 
update, that's a different matter.


 


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Re: Password Manager

[Bill Spikowski]

SameulS wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 08/03/2015 09:34 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

SameulS wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

may I ask your to read and consider
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines>?


All those hints also are relevant for support requests here.

"has stopped working" is too meaningless, and it's a question of
courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail
header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or
Windows RT
8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2.

Best regards

Rainer Bielefeld


I apologize for my transgression in posting to the board. Thank you
for pointing this out to me.

Warmest regards.



Samuel -- What version of Seamonkey are you using? Have you updated it
recently? Those factors can affect saved passwords too.



It helps to read original posts.

"My PW Manager has stopped working for some strange reason on SM
2.33.1 on a W 8.1pro machine."



The additional information I requested would help too.

If the OP recently upgraded from say SM 2.26, then his is a well-known
problem.

If his problem began after updating from say SM 2.31, or unrelated to an
update, that's a different matter.







This started after down grading from 2.35 or some such version that did not 
work well for me, so I reverted to 2.33.1 as the newer version was still a test.

I did post about the challenges with that version, but most likely did not do 
in a fashion which the testers/SM gurus could answer or respond to. For this I 
do apologize as well.

Thank you all for your invaluable input and assistance.



Thanks for the additional info. Afraid I can't help; I've reverted to 2.26 
because of several problems with newer versions (not just passwords), so I 
don't know what factors between 2.35 and 2.33.1 might be causing this problem.

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Can't print from the compose window

[Bill Spikowski]

The past several days I've lost the ability to print an email I'm writing from the 
"Compose" window. I click FILE | PRINT and nothing comes out of the printer, in 
fact I'm not even asked what printer to use.

If I save the email, I can print it just fine from the main SM mail window.

Nothing else is odd with regard to printing from Seamonkey or any other 
software.

Anyone have an idea what might cause this behavior?
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Re: Can't print from the compose window - Known bug

[Bill Spikowski]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Bill Spikowski schrieb:

The past several days I've lost the ability to print an email I'm
writing from the "Compose" window.


Hi,

as I found in the source of your e-mail you use
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 
SeaMonkey/2.33.1
Please mention such details in your questions!

Your problem probably is "Bug 1142997 - Cannot Print from Composer and other 
 elements "
 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1142997>

Best Regards

Rainer Bielefeld
(SeaMonkey QA volunteer)



Yes -- that sounds like the same problem.

I've resolutely avoided upgrading SM past 2.26, but somehow 2.33.1 is on my 
computer now, which could explain the sudden appearance of this problem.

Very glad to see that several people have noticed this problem and are trying 
to track it down!

I've noticed one more bit of strange new printing behavior - when I print an 
email or a web page, SM selects the wrong printer. Even when I select the 
default printer manually in the SM dialog box, next time I print it's sent to 
the (same) wrong printer again. Not that big a deal; but perhaps connected?

Sorry for not mentioning my SM version -- though I would have reported what I 
THOUGHT I was running, rather than the correct version! Also, I'm running 
Windows XP on this computer.
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Re: JPG's Not Displaying

[Bill Spikowski]

Tom Pamin wrote:

When JPG photos are attached to emails I read using my roadrunner webmail site, 
they do not display. I only see a small red x instead of the photo. These 
photos display fine using IE. Is there a setting to change in SM?



Can you explain further?

Are you using the Seamonkey browser to access the roadrunner webmail site?

Or are you using the Seamonkey email client to view your mail from the 
roadrunner mail server?
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Re: JPG's Not Displaying

[Bill Spikowski]

Tom Pamin wrote:

EE wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

When JPG photos are attached to emails I read using my roadrunner
webmail site, they do not display. I only see a small red x instead of
the photo. These photos display fine using IE. Is there a setting to
change in SM?


If they are attachments, can you not detach them and view them as normal
images?


Even when I save the attached images to my PC, I still just get the small red x.


Tom, have you tried accessing this webmail account from a different browser, 
and from your Seamonkey browser running in safe mode? Those tests would 
eliminate a lot of possible problems . . .
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Re: sync not working the last few days?

[Bill Spikowski]

Thomas Rocek wrote:

I have a bunch of machines running Seamonkey (2.38, but sync was set up long before the 
"can't link new machine" problem).

I'm not sure when it started, but at least as of yesterday I'm getting "Sync encountered an error 
while syncing: Unknown error" message; if I go to preferences-->sync to try to look at my 
quota, I get "can't retrieve quota".  And the problem doesn't seem transient; changed 
bookmarks on one machine aren't appearing on others.

Does anyone know if the sync server is down or is my problem unique to me?  
(and if the latter, any suggestions?)


I've been unable to Sync for almost 24 hours, by far the longest down-time I've 
ever experienced. I'm running SM 2.26.1 on five synced Windows machines.

It makes me wonder what I'd do if the Sync system ever stopped working permanently -- I went from 
"who would need that" to "I can't live without it" in record time!
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