Re: Any new about updating QuoteColors for SeaMonkey 2.5 and later?

[sean nathan bean]

Philip Chee wrote:

On 13/02/2012 13:09, PhillipJones wrote:

I'd like use in SM 2.9 and later. I am still using 2.0.14 because
QuoteColors doesn't and some others.  Using the system that use the
thick grey lines to show threads is totally confusing. I wish some one
would change the Max Version and put it out for us to use.  Or get the
Author or someone to update it.


Doesn't this version work for you?


Phil


thx for that Phil... i'm using the beta releases of SeaMonkey in 
windows... and this version of quote colors works for me


yippee

now for jslib...

sean


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Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?

[sean nathan bean]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:


ps: enabling access to eternal-september.org is a multi step process...
but there's not much there worth being read anymore...


You wrote that as if it's Eternal-September's fault!  ;-)  It's not. but
it is the way all of Usenet is going, no matter which news server you
use. Too many people are leaving for (horrible) web forums.



didn't mean to imply it was their fault... just the way the www is 
evolving... new internet users prefer forums...


for instance: i no longer access the linux ngs... but go to the specific 
forum for the latest linux release i'm using... precisely to winnow out 
the flaming and the odd or irrelevant advice from folks not using my 
particular distro...


life is too short... and most NGs are too tedious...

sean

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Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?

[sean nathan bean]

chicagofan wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which
worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all
I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download
newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times.

I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the
u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing
with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols
that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :)
bj



toggling 'ctrl +' doesn't work for you when fonts are too small?



Yes... that's been a real help in many cases but not all. :) Thanks! I
didn't know about that until reading it here a few months ago though.



sean

ps: enabling access to eternal-september.org is a multi step process...
but there's not much there worth being read anymore...


True... I've been reduced to several technical groups and a couple of
tv/entertainment groups.
bj


i have set up both eternal-september and aeiou... but use them far far 
less than i used to do... all the technical groups i have a need for 
have migrated to other fora...



news.mozilla.org is truly the only one where i find decent interaction 
and solutions...


sean


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Re: hotmail/live & imap/pop3 settings?

[sean nathan bean]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 19:28, sean nathan bean told the world:


further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at
all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft
looking for an alternative...

only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie...


Yeah, I had a look around too. Apparently they are deliberately holding
on IMAP in order to push for their proprietary DeltaSync protocol.

But I remembered I have an old Hotmail account I no longer use. I
checked it -- yeah, it is still active. So I tried to set it up in
Seamonkey according to these instructions:

http://www.liveside.net/2009/03/13/pop3-technology-has-now-rolled-out-to-hotmail-customers-worldwide/

...but actually, I just followed the SM new-account wizard and filled in
the blanks. Turns out it download the messages with no problems using
the default POP3 port 110, with no encryption. (Although that might have
been my antivirus, Avast -- there's a gateway to live.com on port 995
that I don't remember setting up, so it might be that it auto-configures
these gateways for known services, so I might be using SSL on port 995
without knowing it.)

Manually changing the options for Connection Security SSL/TLS (port 995)
didn't seem to cause any problems. I also set up SMTP on port 587 (with
STARTTLS) and it worked fine, except for a message telling me to log on
and do a CAPTCHA -- which I wasn't able to find. Now I remember why I
never liked Hotmail...



i did get ae...@live.com to download mail once or twice into seamonkey, 
but they want more frequent checkins to their webmail portal apparently...


thanks for taking time to poke around MC... i never used to like 
hotmail... and i've never used it previosly... but thought i'd give the 
new windowslive features a look see...


me no likeee

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Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?

[sean nathan bean]

chicagofan wrote:

I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which
worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all
I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download
newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times.

I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the
u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing
with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols
that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :)
bj



 toggling 'ctrl +' doesn't work for you when fonts are too small?

sean

ps: enabling access to eternal-september.org is a multi step process... 
but there's not much there worth being read anymore...

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Re: hotmail/live & imap/pop3 settings?

[sean nathan bean]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world:

does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey?

these are what Microsoft says should work:

pop3.live.com - 995 ssl
smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls

but it never does...


I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail
providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable
by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which
used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free
IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access.

So, I would try IMAP before POP.


further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at 
all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft 
looking for an alternative...


only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie...

sean





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Re: hotmail/live & imap/pop3 settings?

[sean nathan bean]

Glen wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey?

these are what Microsoft says should work:

pop3.live.com - 995 ssl
smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls

but it never does...

sean



sean,
why don't you give freepops a try. it's free!

http://www.freepops.org

i'm using it with the latest SM version in order to access my yahoo
accounts. it works perfectly.

and although i haven't tried it with hotmail, it does show that there is
a plugin for it.

here's the plugin for hotmail...
http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=hotmail

i hope it helps.

glen


i also generally dislike having to use addons for things that "should work"

as MS implies here...

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/07/07/an-update-on-ssl-support.aspx

but i may relent...or just create a new account from my ISP...

sean


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Re: hotmail/live & imap/pop3 settings?

[sean nathan bean]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world:

does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey?

these are what Microsoft says should work:

pop3.live.com - 995 ssl
smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls

but it never does...


I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail
providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable
by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which
used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free
IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access.

So, I would try IMAP before POP.



i generally dislike imap, but i'll give it a whirl...

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Re: hotmail/live & imap/pop3 settings?

[sean nathan bean]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:


does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey?

these are what Microsoft says should work:

pop3.live.com - 995 ssl
smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls

but it never does...


Do you have a Hotmail account that is actually eligible for POP access? I
seem to remember that the free accounts were changed, oh a decade ago, to
webmail access only -- unless you upgraded to a fee-based account.



i was casting about for a new e'mail address and thought i'd see how 
windows live was working w/in Seamonkey... encouraged by this article 
dated 2009...


http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/14/hotmail-pop3-configuration/

which says its available to anyone...

i've had it work for a few days at a time... but it always begins 
throwing up errors after three days or so...


its no biggie, just wondered if i was the only one scratching my head...

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hotmail/live & imap/pop3 settings?

[sean nathan bean]

does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey?

these are what Microsoft says should work:

pop3.live.com - 995 ssl
smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls

but it never does...

sean


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are you on Facebook? Fluff Busting Purity now compatible w/Seamonkey

[sean nathan bean]

Facebook is now the bane of many folks online existence... I certainly 
have a love/hate relationship with it, being that its the only way to 
stay in contact with younger members of one's family anymore...


but the noise and advertising are so annoying... but now I'm happy to 
have discovered that


http://www.fbpurity.com/

works in Seamonkey...

yippee...

sean


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Re: Update failed: SM 2.4a1

[sean nathan bean]

NoOp wrote:

On 12/25/2011 12:17 PM, sean bean wrote:

i recently revived a windows partition that's been "missing" for many
months... is has the:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110607 Firefox/7.0a1
SeaMonkey/2.4a1

version of Seamonkey installed... when i go to help>  check for updates
i get an error message:

"Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure
update "

just a strange occurrence?

sean


No. It been documented in the past on this list.




much appreciated... never seen that error before...

merry merry

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Re: SM 2.5: plugin-container.exe using 30% CPU

[sean nathan bean]

flyguy wrote:

Recently, Seamonkey sometimes experiences 25 to 30% CPU time by
plugin-container.exe, and what is a normally fast (4 cpu, 2 GHz) XP
machine really slows down. I've read some Firefox related complaints
about it, but didn't really find any work arounds other than closing
tabs until it stopped, or using Task Manager to end the process.

What's the best way to avoid the slowdown from it? Does 2.6.1 fix it?


seems to me there was a way to block the use of plugin-container... in 
about:config but i can't recolelct what it was... will some kind soul 
refresh my memory after you've recovered from all the christmas libations?


sean

merry merry brazilian style
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Re: in 2.5 beta 3 is this a Sync related error?

[sean nathan bean]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

uhhh... this version of seamonkey asks me to "Please enter the master
password for the Software Security Device" incessantly

installed 2.6a2 seeing if i could evade the MP... i can find no place to
shut it off... and am wondering if its been linked to Sync?


*If* it is related to Sync, it might be Bug 653335 "Sync setup wizard
triggers Change Master Password dialog" which was just fixed on trunk
(to-be SM 2.7) and Aurora (to-be SM 2.6). Approval for Beta (to-be SM
2.5) was denied so it won't be fixed in the next stable release but only
the one after that.

HTH

Jens


apparently this is still somewhat broken in Sm 2.5 ... although now 
attempting to set up sync just leaves me w/a "wrong sync key" error...


but sync works in firefox...

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Re: ummm almost ... Re: yippee... jslib & tagzilla work OTB

[sean nathan bean]

sean nathan bean wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

first time in a long time that my addons all worked on a new SeaMonkey
release...

i'm thankful

sean


strange... they work on my regular e'mail accounts... but not on this
newsgroup account...

shuxx

sean


lets see if some settings changes worked?

oh yay it does!!!

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yippee... jslib & tagzilla work OTB

[sean nathan bean]

first time in a long time that my addons all worked on a new SeaMonkey 
release...


i'm thankful

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ummm almost ... Re: yippee... jslib & tagzilla work OTB

[sean nathan bean]

sean nathan bean wrote:

first time in a long time that my addons all worked on a new SeaMonkey
release...

i'm thankful

sean


strange... they work on my regular e'mail accounts... but not on this 
newsgroup account...


shuxx

sean




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Re: addressbook list bugs

[sean nathan bean]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

lists were no longer accepting new entries being dragged & dropped
from the mail addressbook...


Can you explain the setup for reproducing your issue in more detail please?

I tried the below with 2.6b1 but was unable to reproduce it, so either
it's fixed in 2.6b1 or my steps are different from yours:

I opened the Address Book window, created a list, expanded the
corresponding address book entry (left pane) and dragged two contacts
onto the list (from right pane to left pane). In other words, either I
didn't understand your issue or I was not able to reproduce it.

Greetings,

Jens



create a new addressbook list

drag and drop individual addresses from the main addressbook...

close seamonkey

open addressbook and attempt to drag & drop new entries from the main 
addressbook...


---
the only way around it is to delete the list and begin anew...

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Re: Little arrows mean what?

[sean nathan bean]

Michael Gordon wrote:

chokito wrote:

On 25 Nov., 16:37, BIll Spikowski wrote:

I see little arrows in the upper right mail window -- some are red and
point left; others are blue and point right. What do they mean? I think
they are new in 2.5, which I installed this morning.


Red arrow left> Replied, Red arrow right> Forwarded, I have no blue
arrows...


Arrows pointing to the right are supposed to indicate a new message, or
message thread, just like the underlined subject, but they do not always
tell the truth.

Michael G



the colors of the arrows are also likely "theme dependant"

sean
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 Release -- New Features and Fixes

[sean nathan bean]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.5: The new major
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available.


How do I turn off the new feature of a PURPLE arrow appearing on the
icon next to the subject title on messages I have replied to?

GW


don't reply to messages? ;-)

but um... seriously? don't you like knowing or having a reminder which 
ones you've already responded to?


sean

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 Release -- New Features and Fixes

[sean nathan bean]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.5: The new major
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now!
Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it
delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5,
hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.


really loving that it auto-updated even on my peppermintOS linux machine...

its a great build...

thanks for all the work you do...

sean

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addressbook list bugs

[sean nathan bean]

just noticing that some address book list bugs are cropping up in 
SeaMonkey 2.5, i was recreating my family e'mail lists when i noticed 
that lists were no longer accepting new entries being dragged & dropped 
from the mail addressbook...


anyone know of an open bug? searching bugzilla lists thousands of 
"addressbook" entries...


sean

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Re: in 2.5 beta 3 is this a Sync related error?

[sean nathan bean]

WLS wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

WLS wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

a new error message encountered after installing 2.5 beta 3

"Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device."

and i don't know what its asking me for...

arrrgghhh

sean


i've never set a "master password" and have no reason to do so... no
interest in doing so... i'd like to turn this off, but see no ability
to do so anywhere in the edit > preferences...

or am i mis-reading what this request actually is?

sean


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Master_password



uhhh... this version of seamonkey asks me to "Please enter the master
password for the Software Security Device" incessantly

installed 2.6a2 seeing if i could evade the MP... i can find no place
to shut it off... and am wondering if its been linked to Sync?

if my laptop ever left my house... i might be interested in a master
password... i am not...

sean


uhh... and another one who doesn't plan on actually trying any of
the advice given here, then why even bother asking questions???

So, did you read the section about...


Asked for a master password despite never setting one

Best of luck to you.



doesn't have any effect

no advice given by you... just a link w/no explanation... >plonk<

sean

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Re: in 2.5 beta 3 is this a Sync related error?

[sean nathan bean]

WLS wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

a new error message encountered after installing 2.5 beta 3

"Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device."

and i don't know what its asking me for...

arrrgghhh

sean


i've never set a "master password" and have no reason to do so... no
interest in doing so... i'd like to turn this off, but see no ability
to do so anywhere in the edit > preferences...

or am i mis-reading what this request actually is?

sean


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Master_password



uhhh... this version of seamonkey asks me to "Please enter the master 
password for the Software Security Device" incessantly


installed 2.6a2 seeing if i could evade the MP... i can find no place to 
shut it off... and am wondering if its been linked to Sync?


if my laptop ever left my house... i might be interested in a master 
password... i am not...


sean
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Re: in 2.5 beta 3 is this a Sync related error?

[sean nathan bean]

sean nathan bean wrote:

a new error message encountered after installing 2.5 beta 3

"Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device.

and i don't know what its asking me for...

arrrgghhh

sean


i've never set a "master password" and have no reason to do so... no 
interest in doing so... i'd like to turn this off, but see no ability to 
do so anywhere in the edit > preferences...


or am i mis-reading what this request actually is?

sean
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in 2.5 beta 3 is this a Sync related error?

[sean nathan bean]

a new error message encountered after installing 2.5 beta 3

"Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device.

and i don't know what its asking me for...

arrrgghhh

sean
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Re: SeaMonkey flickers horrible when first accessing a page

[sean nathan bean]

Otto Wyss sent me the following::

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Otto Wyss wrote:

This has been mentioned several times yet no progress is visble at
all. No question SeaMonkey is loosing users because of this, lots of
users. Why isn't anyone working on this?


Is it always the same page? Your start page, perhaps? Give a URL to a
page where you see this flicker.


www.ogame.de is one I remember but I've seen more. I'll send more as



no problem with my installation... have you turned off your addons?
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Re: Seamonkey hangups

[sean nathan bean]

Peter sent me the following::

I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where
Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no
apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the
computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get
anything done.

I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too
important to give up CPU cycles to the user.

I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything
that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us
determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs?

Peter


no hang up or freezes on my 6 year old laptop running the latest 
Seamonkey in linux...


sean


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Re: AllState Web Site

[sean nathan bean]

David E. Ross sent me the following::

On 10/12/11 2:57 PM, sean nathan bean wrote:

Gertjan sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ant wrote:






I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking.

HTH



sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing
"compatibility" of
Firefox 2.0

sean




To "quit advertizing "compatibility" of Firefox 2.0" simply untick the
spot on the HTTP Networking page.

QED!



well duh... guess i need to be more specific... why does SM still
advertize compatibility of Firefox 2.0 ... when Firefox is now at
version 6,7 or 8?

to date i haven't found an about:config entry to advertize the latest
Firefox versions... as opposed to the ancient versions...

iiuc,

sean





your seamonkey advertizes Firefox/7.0 :
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110922 Firefox/7.0
SeaMonkey/2.4




sorry all... my old eyes... misreading 7

plus confusion as i attempt to install certain addons which have given
me an error which reads "this isn't available for firefox 2.x"

sean




You are a victim of bug #671085.  See
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671085>.

Effectively, a user agent string in the form of
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
is parsed by the addons.mozilla.org server as if your browser were
Firefox 2.4.  As I recall, this problem was forecast when it was decided
to add the "advertise Firefox compatibility" feature to SeaMonkey, but
that forecast was pooh-poohed.

This is why I disabled "advertise Firefox compatibility".  I use
PrefBar's User Agent capability when I need to spoof a browser other
than SeaMonkey.



i knew it... see i'm not losing my mind... even as much as i'd like to 
some days...


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Re: AllState Web Site

[sean nathan bean]

Gertjan sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ant wrote:






I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking.

HTH



sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing
"compatibility" of
Firefox 2.0

sean




To "quit advertizing "compatibility" of Firefox 2.0" simply untick the
spot on the HTTP Networking page.

QED!



well duh... guess i need to be more specific... why does SM still
advertize compatibility of Firefox 2.0 ... when Firefox is now at
version 6,7 or 8?

to date i haven't found an about:config entry to advertize the latest
Firefox versions... as opposed to the ancient versions...

iiuc,

sean





your seamonkey advertizes Firefox/7.0 :
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110922 Firefox/7.0
SeaMonkey/2.4




sorry all... my old eyes... misreading 7

plus confusion as i attempt to install certain addons which have given 
me an error which reads "this isn't available for firefox 2.x"


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Re: Towards an alternative way forward for Seamonkey

[sean nathan bean]

sean nathan bean sent me the following::

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) sent me the following::



Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

>> Insert -> Characters and Symbols
>> has no options.
>
> Rob, unfortunately this is a known issue, I plan to release an addon
within the week to correct this, as a hotfix. and will get the real fix
into a 2.4.2 *IFF* there is another reason for a "chemspill" release.

In many ways, this hearkens back to my message of a day or
so ago, where I expressed my concerns that Seamonkey users
were beginning to lose their brand loyalty, almost certainly
as a result (direct or indirect) of Seamonkey's following
Firefox's rapid release schedule as well as its seeming
determination to follow Firefox's lead, regardless of whether
that lead is consistent with Seamonkey's heritage and the
expectations of its users.

Having just read Justin's message (above), it seems to me
that Seamonkey is indeed suffering as a result of those two
philosophies, and I would therefore like to offer, for
serious consideration, an alternative which I /think/ might
help to retain Seamonkey's existing user base, and perhaps
even enlarge it if Firefox users are similarly getting
pd off with the problems that seem automatically
to follow from the need to release on such a tight
time-scale.

I would like to propose that Seamonkey continue to make
use of Firefox and Gecko as its core components (I do
not know to what extent it also draws on Thunderbird),
but rather than slavishly following Firefox's 6-week
cycle, it adopts an altogether more leisurely approach.

What I propose is that Seamonkey aim at a 6-month release
cycle, using Firefox/Gecko from six months ago as its
basis. This will allow adequate time to identify bugs,
features that are counter-intuitive to Seamonkey users,
ill-advised design decisions, and so on.

This does not mean that later Firefoxes/Geckos will
necessarily be ignored; if, for example, they address
a bug in the version selected as the basis for the
next Seamonkey, then of course the bug fix can be
incorporated. But there should be no last-minute
(or last week, or perhaps even last month) changes :
there should be a good, stable Seamonkey in beta-test
for at least a month before it is released to Seamonkey
users in general.

Comments, please ?

Philip Taylor


personally... my answer is I prefer the new fast release cycle...

i've been far happier with the newer versions of SeaMonkey than any of
the older ones... the vast majority of folks who are happy with
Seamonkey never find their way here... so the negative commentary on
this list is outweighed by the negative nancies...

sean


(one of these days i'll remember to proofread before hitting send... ;-)

so the commentary on this list is heavily weighed down by the fast 
release cycle negative nancies...


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Re: Can Google-Analytics be bypassed?

[sean nathan bean]

Daniel sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

d...@kd4e.com sent me the following::

Just getting back to this ...

Is the file to which this is added /etc/hosts ?

Is everything in there blocked?

Thanks!

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

# block google ads. add additional servers as found.
127.0.0.1 adwords.google.com
127.0.0.1 pagead.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1www.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 apps5.oingo.com
127.0.0.1 gcc-08.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1www.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
# google urchintracker
127.0.0.1 urchin.com
127.0.0.1www.urchin.com
127.0.0.1 domains.googlesyndication.com #[Parking Service]
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1 video-stats.video.google.com
127.0.0.1 4.afs.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 feedads.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 imageads.googleadservices.com #[Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com





i know this is an old thread but... fwiw the Ghostery addon seems to be
blocking all of this for me... anyone else have likes/complaints about
it?

sean




I have Ghostery on board...often see it telling me it's blocked stuff.

Daniel



as do i, and i regularly see it blocking google analytics ...

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Re: AllState Web Site

[sean nathan bean]

Daniel sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ant wrote:






I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking.

HTH



sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing "compatibility" of
Firefox 2.0

sean




To "quit advertizing "compatibility" of Firefox 2.0" simply untick the
spot on the HTTP Networking page.

QED!



well duh... guess i need to be more specific... why does SM still 
advertize compatibility of Firefox 2.0 ... when Firefox is now at 
version 6,7 or 8?


to date i haven't found an about:config entry to advertize the latest 
Firefox versions... as opposed to the ancient versions...


iiuc,

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Re: Towards an alternative way forward for Seamonkey

[sean nathan bean]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) sent me the following::



Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

 >> Insert -> Characters and Symbols
 >> has no options.
 >
 > Rob, unfortunately this is a known issue, I plan to release an addon
within the week to correct this, as a hotfix. and will get the real fix
into a 2.4.2 *IFF* there is another reason for a "chemspill" release.

In many ways, this hearkens back to my message of a day or
so ago, where I expressed my concerns that Seamonkey users
were beginning to lose their brand loyalty, almost certainly
as a result (direct or indirect) of Seamonkey's following
Firefox's rapid release schedule as well as its seeming
determination to follow Firefox's lead, regardless of whether
that lead is consistent with Seamonkey's heritage and the
expectations of its users.

Having just read Justin's message (above), it seems to me
that Seamonkey is indeed suffering as a result of those two
philosophies, and I would therefore like to offer, for
serious consideration, an alternative which I /think/ might
help to retain Seamonkey's existing user base, and perhaps
even enlarge it if Firefox users are similarly getting
pd off with the problems that seem automatically
to follow from the need to release on such a tight
time-scale.

I would like to propose that Seamonkey continue to make
use of Firefox and Gecko as its core components (I do
not know to what extent it also draws on Thunderbird),
but rather than slavishly following Firefox's 6-week
cycle, it adopts an altogether more leisurely approach.

What I propose is that Seamonkey aim at a 6-month release
cycle, using Firefox/Gecko from six months ago as its
basis. This will allow adequate time to identify bugs,
features that are counter-intuitive to Seamonkey users,
ill-advised design decisions, and so on.

This does not mean that later Firefoxes/Geckos will
necessarily be ignored; if, for example, they address
a bug in the version selected as the basis for the
next Seamonkey, then of course the bug fix can be
incorporated. But there should be no last-minute
(or last week, or perhaps even last month) changes :
there should be a good, stable Seamonkey in beta-test
for at least a month before it is released to Seamonkey
users in general.

Comments, please ?

Philip Taylor


personally... my answer is I prefer the new fast release cycle...

i've been far happier with the newer versions of SeaMonkey than any of 
the older ones... the vast majority of folks who are happy with 
Seamonkey never find their way here... so the negative commentary on 
this list is outweighed by the negative nancies...


sean



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Re: Can Google-Analytics be bypassed?

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d...@kd4e.com sent me the following::

Just getting back to this ...

Is the file to which this is added /etc/hosts ?

Is everything in there blocked?

Thanks!

 > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

# block google ads. add additional servers as found.
127.0.0.1 adwords.google.com
127.0.0.1 pagead.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1www.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 apps5.oingo.com
127.0.0.1 gcc-08.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1www.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
# google urchintracker
127.0.0.1 urchin.com
127.0.0.1www.urchin.com
127.0.0.1 domains.googlesyndication.com #[Parking Service]
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1 video-stats.video.google.com
127.0.0.1 4.afs.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 feedads.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 imageads.googleadservices.com #[Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com





i know this is an old thread but... fwiw the Ghostery addon seems to be 
blocking all of this for me... anyone else have likes/complaints about it?


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Re: Sync encountered an error...

[sean nathan bean]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) sent me the following::



sean nathan bean wrote:


the last three days i've been getting the following error message:
Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will
automatically retry this action.

anyone else? or just me?


Philip Chee wrote:


On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:57:22 -0400, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

> Rick Merrill wrote:

>> I'm getting lots of hangs with sm2.4
>> and the complaint is "server" messed up!

>
> Its a (now) known issue with the default Sync Server, Mozilla IT are
> working around the clock to try and correct it properly.
>
> Seehttps://services.mozilla.com/status/ for more.

Network Timeout

The operation timed out when attempting to contact services.mozilla.com.

Most of Mozilla is sloow. Bugzilla, the Wiki. The NNTP server seems to
be doing fine (but then it's actually Giganews).

Phil


clicking "check server" takes me to a page which tells me to check 
twitter... w/o giving me the twitter @ handle


sean



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Sync encountered an error...

[sean nathan bean]

the last three days i've been getting the following error message:

Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will 
automatically retry this action.


previously, i clicked the x and ignored it... now it pops up every 15 
seconds...


anyone else? or just me?

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Re: AllState Web Site

[sean nathan bean]

Daniel sent me the following::

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ant wrote:






I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking.

HTH



sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing "compatibility" of 
Firefox 2.0


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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[sean nathan bean]

Paul B. Gallagher sent me the following::

HACKERS BREAK SSL ENCRYPTION USED BY MILLIONS OF SITES
==
Beware of BEAST decrypting secret PayPal cookies

By Dan Goodin in San Francisco
Posted in ID, 19th September 2011 21:10 GMT

Researchers have discovered a serious weakness in virtually all websites
protected by the secure sockets layer protocol that allows attackers to
silently decrypt data that's passing between a webserver and an end-user
browser.

The vulnerability resides in versions 1.0 and earlier of TLS, or
transport layer security, the successor to the secure sockets layer
technology that serves as the internet's foundation of trust. Although
versions 1.1 and 1.2 of TLS aren't susceptible, they remain almost
entirely unsupported in browsers and websites alike, making encrypted
transactions on PayPal, GMail, and just about every other website
vulnerable to eavesdropping by hackers who are able to control the
connection between the end user and the website he's visiting.

At the Ekoparty security conference in Buenos Aires later this week,
researchers Thai Duong and Juliano Rizzo plan to demonstrate
proof-of-concept code called BEAST, which is short for Browser Exploit
Against SSL/TLS. The stealthy piece of JavaScript works with a network
sniffer to decrypt encrypted cookies a targeted website uses to grant
access to restricted user accounts. The exploit works even against sites
that use HSTS, or HTTP Strict Transport Security, which prevents certain
pages from loading unless they're protected by SSL.

The demo will decrypt an authentication cookie used to access a PayPal
account, Duong said. Two days after this article was first published,
Google released a developer version of its Chrome browser designed to
thwart the attack.

...

Full article (Mozilla stuff on p. 2):




interesting...  even more interesting that i've received 2 phishing 
e'mails today... am hoping sp...@paypal.com is still the correct 
unhacked place to forward them...


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Re: passwords suddenly incorrect

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NoOp sent me the following::

On 09/22/2011 12:44 PM, sean nathan bean wrote:

LMH sent me the following::

I am getting odd behavior with the password manager.

Passwords that have been saved for a long time, like my SMTP login, are
suddenly being called incorrect by my email provider. I have tried to
send mail, and had the SMTP server return a message that the password is
incorrect. I am using a master password, and the individual passwords
have been saved for a long time. If I re-enter the password, it works.
This has also happened for POP passwords. I have an account where I
manage about 10 different email addresses. The POP passwords failed for
two of them and I had to reenter them. The passwords were fine for all
the others, which is very odd. It almost implies that the passwords are
being corrupted, unless there is something else in play that I don't
know about.

LMH


this has been happening to me as well, and i'm beginning to suspect
something that is more malware related...


In linux?
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830
SeaMonkey/2.3.1
I'd be *very* surprised.
...


i know whatever it is isn't likely to affect me in linux... but suspect 
there is a regular effort out on the web to divert unsuspecting folks...


twitter has been a problem seeming to forget passwords weekly... google+ 
was a problem before i left and closed all of my google accounts...






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Re: passwords suddenly incorrect

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LMH sent me the following::

I am getting odd behavior with the password manager.

Passwords that have been saved for a long time, like my SMTP login, are
suddenly being called incorrect by my email provider. I have tried to
send mail, and had the SMTP server return a message that the password is
incorrect. I am using a master password, and the individual passwords
have been saved for a long time. If I re-enter the password, it works.
This has also happened for POP passwords. I have an account where I
manage about 10 different email addresses. The POP passwords failed for
two of them and I had to reenter them. The passwords were fine for all
the others, which is very odd. It almost implies that the passwords are
being corrupted, unless there is something else in play that I don't
know about.

LMH


this has been happening to me as well, and i'm beginning to suspect 
something that is more malware related...


as an aside... a password isn't secure if you've been using it for years...

sean


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Re: Can Google-Analytics be bypassed?

[sean nathan bean]

Jay Garcia sent me the following::

On 25.08.2011 21:03, sean nathan bean wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


d...@kd4e.com sent me the following::

Just getting back to this ...

Is the file to which this is added /etc/hosts ?

Is everything in there blocked?

Thanks!

  >  Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

# block google ads. add additional servers as found.
127.0.0.1 adwords.google.com
127.0.0.1 pagead.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1www.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 apps5.oingo.com
127.0.0.1 gcc-08.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1www.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
# google urchintracker
127.0.0.1 urchin.com
127.0.0.1www.urchin.com
127.0.0.1 domains.googlesyndication.com #[Parking Service]
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1 video-stats.video.google.com
127.0.0.1 4.afs.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 feedads.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 imageads.googleadservices.com #[Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com





so what's the point of hosts.deny ? or do we need both?


hosts - Windows
hosts.deny - Linux/Unix



being a linux n00bie... i notice my install of peppermintOS linux has 
both... a hosts as well as a hosts.deny located in /etc


neither created by me...

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Re: Can Google-Analytics be bypassed?

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d...@kd4e.com sent me the following::

Just getting back to this ...

Is the file to which this is added /etc/hosts ?

Is everything in there blocked?

Thanks!

 > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

# block google ads. add additional servers as found.
127.0.0.1 adwords.google.com
127.0.0.1 pagead.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1www.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 apps5.oingo.com
127.0.0.1 gcc-08.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1www.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
# google urchintracker
127.0.0.1 urchin.com
127.0.0.1www.urchin.com
127.0.0.1 domains.googlesyndication.com #[Parking Service]
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1 video-stats.video.google.com
127.0.0.1 4.afs.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 feedads.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 imageads.googleadservices.com #[Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com





so what's the point of hosts.deny ? or do we need both?




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Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3

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Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following::

On 8/18/2011 1:06 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote:

I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form 2.2 to
2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay about 3
seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1 at a time. I
highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3 second delay before
it deletes the message. I noticed this before in 2.2 when I deleted the
first message, there would be a delay but all others would delete very
quickly after the first one as I highlighted them and hit delete. Seems
pretty strange to me. If I bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all
delete after that 3 second delay. Compacting the folder did not help.
Bernie


Bernie,

Can you try "Compact" on the folders you are experiencing this issue in,
(right click on the folder in the folder-list, and select the "Compact"
entry)

The action of compacting can take a while depending on many factors,
size of the message database being one of them.

So even if SeaMonkey seems to freeze when you do that, allow it to
continue running, (I'd say, max 1 hour should be sufficient even on slow
computers)

After that, restart seamonkey (and even your computer) to get the memory
use flushed, for certain, and then try again, let us know if this helps
your situation.



if you'd read his message... you'd know he already tried compact...

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Re: SUGGESTION

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Jane--Galt sent me the following::

sean nathan bean   wrote :


Jane--Galt sent me the following::

How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with
the mouse?

For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to
the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for
viewing sites instead of bars.



right click anywhere on the tool bar... select customize... drag away...
this has been available for quite some time...

sean


Ahh, thanks!



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Re: sync

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Philip Chee sent me the following::

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:30:03 -0400, Rick Merrill wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
...>

The default 'master' is a Server hosted by Mozilla,


I assume it acts as intermediary and not as a storage point.



No, it *does* store data, so you don't need, say your WinXP machine up and 
running when you sync to your win7 machine. That said, no-one but you can
retrieve/deduce the data from your sync account.



Do I take that to mean that incoming email goes to a Mozilla server THEN to 
whichever computer I grab?!

I'm starting to worry!


It stores your account settings but obviously not any of the actual mail
messages.

Phil




i only let sync save my bookmarks...

sean

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Re: SUGGESTION

[sean nathan bean]

Jane--Galt sent me the following::

How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with the
mouse?

For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to the top
bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for viewing sites
instead of bars.



right click anywhere on the tool bar... select customize... drag away... 
this has been available for quite some time...


sean


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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[sean nathan bean]

Sailfish sent me the following::

My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011
5:56 PM:

My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on
7/3/2011 9:22 PM:

My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the
Seamonkey to version 2.

It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking
theme, that is listed as the "default theme".

It appears that software developers design software for their own
pleasure, and not for the users.

The "Classic" theme will not install.

The "Littlemonkey" theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to
the left of the toolbars.

Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x,
so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the
themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape?


I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ .

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like
(Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You
may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted
most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,
&c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this
response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add
you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email.


I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the
site using SeaMonkey 2.2x.

Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite
making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most
beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an
added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named,
Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining
it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To
enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions.

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race
Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits.

Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number
styling errors or previously unstyled elements.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may
email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of
the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, &c. If you
prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your
email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and
send you a confirmation email.



just installed Venerable Modern... still like it... greatly appreciate 
the theme updates... toy factory was always a fave... but i think i like 
more subtlety in my aging years...


sean


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Re: Recover lost passwords?

[sean nathan bean]

Paul B. Gallagher sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher sent me the following::

Will someone remind me how to recover the hundreds of passwords that
vanished in the unintended "upgrade" from v. 2.0.14 to v. 2.2? I see
nothing in the release notes except an unhelpful suggestion to create a
new profile and migrate various data types (such as passwords) one at a
time, but no guidance on /how/ to do so. RTFM didn't help, either.

Thanks.


from the browser edit > preferences > privacy & security > passwords >
manage stored passwords

still brings up everything i've stored... and i can show passwords...

sounds like you may have an interfering addon...


Have only very plain-vanilla stuff -- Chatzilla, AdBlock Plus,
JavaScript Debugger, DOM Inspector. If the program doesn't like those,
it's not my fault.



in addition i have jslib, lightning, prefbar, quotecolors, tagzilla... 
but deleted dom inspector as i have no use for it...


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Re: Redundant Java control

[sean nathan bean]

David E. Ross sent me the following::

On 8/11/11 3:59 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I notice after updating my Java install that it makes no difference in
SM 2.2 (XP SP3) whether Preferences ->  Advanced/Enable Java is ticked or
not. It's now always active.


This pref has been removed from SM 2.3. Java is now solely controlled from the
Add-ons Manager.

HTH

Jens



   From 2.2, apparently. OK, good to know, thanks.


Neither the user interface that you cite nor the preference variable it
controls no longer have any meaning in SM 2.2.  The user interface
should have been removed earlier.



so where/how does one install java in seamonkey 2.2 on a linux box?

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Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14

[sean nathan bean]

Tom Pamin sent me the following::

Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I
already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by
adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I
have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14?


easiest? download mail via pop3 or imap ... seriously...

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Re: Recover lost passwords?

[sean nathan bean]

Paul B. Gallagher sent me the following::

Will someone remind me how to recover the hundreds of passwords that
vanished in the unintended "upgrade" from v. 2.0.14 to v. 2.2? I see
nothing in the release notes except an unhelpful suggestion to create a
new profile and migrate various data types (such as passwords) one at a
time, but no guidance on /how/ to do so. RTFM didn't help, either.

Thanks.



from the browser  edit > preferences > privacy & security > passwords > 
manage stored passwords


still brings up everything i've stored... and i can show passwords...

sounds like you may have an interfering addon...

sean


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Re: News Group Questions

[sean nathan bean]

WLS sent me the following::

nr wrote:

A couple of quick questions which would make my using the Newsgroups
(version 2.2) reader so much easier:

1. Is there any way to change the order of the groups within the
server?


I don't know about within the server, but I just drag and drop the
newsgroup to change the order in the list in SeaMonkey.


drag and drop... that's news to me... love it...

sean


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Re: new 2.3

[sean nathan bean]

Pat Connors sent me the following::

Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't
know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using Windows 7
which seems to complicate all new program updates.

Just wondering how others using Win 7 have managed with the new update.



my two cents:

SeaMonkey 2.1 and 2.2 have been virtually flawless...there may have been 
a few niggling details which irked me personally... but none rose to the 
level of making me decide to remain in the insecure 2.0.x series...


i keep backups of my address books and my bookmarks... but haven't had 
any need to import them since jumping to 2.1...


one of the things folks in this group need to realize is, change in 
inevitable... progress moves forward... no e'mail program in the 2010's 
can afford to remain static... lest it whither away with the dying off 
of its intransigent user base...


given how few people actually send e'mail anymore outside of their cell 
phones, we are lucky to still have an independent e'mail/browser combo 
that remains in development based the gecko/mozilla...


personally i've found the tabs in the e'mail section quite useful... but 
the program isn't forcing you to use them...


sean





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hotmail

[sean nathan bean]

seamonkey is no longer working properly with hotmail... either via 
pop... or going to their webmail portal... can't download via pop and 
can't log into the webmail portal...


> XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
> Location: http://co106w.col106.mail.live.com/default.aspx?rru=inbox
> Line Number 65, Column 1075:


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Re: new 2.3

[sean nathan bean]

Rufus sent me the following::

My company got
struck not long ago even *with* all of the draconian restrictions on our
IT system.


doesn't matter how draconian your IT systems are... they are all at the 
mercy of your least security concious company member... or the one most 
willing to try to hack around the restrictions...


ime

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Re: Spoofing & Old Mail

[sean nathan bean]

JohnW-Mpls sent me the following::

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:44:24 -0700, sean nathan bean
  wrote:


JohnW-Mpls sent me the following::


Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's
new option to "advertise FireFox compatibility" does not help, at least for
me.   One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I
cannot afford to miss those things.

So, I'm switching my browser work to FireFox - hate to leave good old SM -
and I now need to re-establish all my passwords.  I'm also a little
concerned about all the talk about fancy FF add-ins - I doubt I want any but
I dislike being bothered by someone interrupting me to tout some new
capability.

I'll keep using SM for the mail and address book - the best arrangement I've
seen (supposedly equaled only by the old Eudora).  One remaining problem in
SM Mail is the inability to automatically delete old messages in more than
just my first account - I'd like the same service in at least six more
accounts.  Or am I missing some setting or option?



some links to sites that still block you would be helpful indeed...

sean


My current problem is not SM being blocked from a password protected bank
site, but that some graphics inside an open site cannot be seen using SM.

One URL is<http://pastortania.posterous.com/>  - the photos with the blog
are not seen with SM 2.2.   I got to that URL via my church's site
<http://westwoodlutheran.org/content.cfm?id=151>. Also, my church's site is
the one that does not accept SM 2.2 for my uploads of files - need to use
FF,IE,...

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i also see photos... using SM 2.2 in peppermintOS Two linux...



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Re: IE users are dumber .

[sean nathan bean]

Mike C sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Sailfish sent me the following::

My bloviated meandering follows what question graced us with on
7/30/2011 7:34 PM:


Ie users are suppose to be Dumb

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/07/30/internet-explorer-users-are-dumber-study-shows/




http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/08/03/explorer.report.faked/index.html?hpt=hp_t2




h/t: Jay Garcia



figured it was a fake right away... the elitist tone should have been a
dead giveaway...

sean


Hey Sean,
Any relation to the actor Sean Bean?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm293/


who? oh... no... not that i know of...


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Re: IE users are dumber .

[sean nathan bean]

Sailfish sent me the following::

My bloviated meandering follows what question graced us with on
7/30/2011 7:34 PM:


Ie users are suppose to be Dumb

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/07/30/internet-explorer-users-are-dumber-study-shows/


http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/08/03/explorer.report.faked/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


h/t: Jay Garcia



figured it was a fake right away... the elitist tone should have been a 
dead giveaway...


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winXP loses majority share

[sean nathan bean]

just an interesting article to read for the moment...

sean

http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/08/july-browser-stats-windows-xp-loses-its-majority-share-of-web-users.ars


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Re: Long Time SeaMonkey User, Updating SubFiles to SubFolders. Sorry

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Daniel sent me the following::

Ant wrote:

On 7/31/2011 1:47 PM PT, sean nathan bean typed:


*Second Copy:* Kind of embarrassing, Just after I pushed send, I
realized I had been referring to the subfolders as subfiles. Sorry,
this
is the corrected document, so I don't feel like such a fool.


you can delete your own posts from newsgroups... right click and
cancel... saves long time netscape/seamonkey folks from sufferin
embarrassment...


I thought that didn't work on mozilla.org's usenet server?


You are right, Ant, cancel does not work on the Mozilla server, all it
does, effectively, is remove it from the view of the person that
"cancels" their own messagestill viewable by anyone else.



well... it always worked before... but notice that in seamonkey 2.2 the 
option to cancel is greyed out...


this long time user is a tad embarrassed...

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Re: Long Time SeaMonkey User, Updating SubFiles to SubFolders. Sorry

[sean nathan bean]

Mark D. Ballmer sent me the following::

*Second Copy:* Kind of embarrassing, Just after I pushed send, I
realized I had been referring to the subfolders as subfiles. Sorry, this
is the corrected document, so I don't feel like such a fool.


you can delete your own posts from newsgroups... right click and 
cancel... saves long time netscape/seamonkey folks from sufferin 
embarrassment...


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Re: Spoofing & Old Mail

[sean nathan bean]

JohnW-Mpls sent me the following::


Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's
new option to "advertise FireFox compatibility" does not help, at least for
me.   One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I
cannot afford to miss those things.

So, I'm switching my browser work to FireFox - hate to leave good old SM -
and I now need to re-establish all my passwords.  I'm also a little
concerned about all the talk about fancy FF add-ins - I doubt I want any but
I dislike being bothered by someone interrupting me to tout some new
capability.

I'll keep using SM for the mail and address book - the best arrangement I've
seen (supposedly equaled only by the old Eudora).  One remaining problem in
SM Mail is the inability to automatically delete old messages in more than
just my first account - I'd like the same service in at least six more
accounts.  Or am I missing some setting or option?



some links to sites that still block you would be helpful indeed...

sean


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Re: two copies of every spam messages arrive

[sean nathan bean]

Paul sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

sean nathan bean sent me the following::

i am once again using my @netscape.net e'mail as my primary e'mail in
Seamonkey 2.2...

wondering if anyone has an explanation as to why the aol servers send me
two copies of all the spam... anyone else seeing this via the @aim @aol
@netscape servers?

sean


additionally... even though two copies of virtually all spam arrive in
my designated spam folder... only one of them is marked as spam...

really? no one has any theories about duplicative spamming?

sean


Maybe the spammers are sending you two copies.



really don't think that'd be the case... not that i get a lot of spam 
hese days... i just find it interesting that i get duplicates of 100% of 
what spam arrives...


seems like a hiccup in servers to me...

sean


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Re: two copies of every spam messages arrive

[sean nathan bean]

sean nathan bean sent me the following::

i am once again using my @netscape.net e'mail as my primary e'mail in
Seamonkey 2.2...

wondering if anyone has an explanation as to why the aol servers send me
two copies of all the spam... anyone else seeing this via the @aim @aol
@netscape servers?

sean


additionally... even though two copies of virtually all spam arrive in 
my designated spam folder... only one of them is marked as spam...


really? no one has any theories about duplicative spamming?

sean



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what do i need to edit to install google opt-out cookie

[sean nathan bean]

seems like i should be able to "just edit" about config to allow google 
to install the google opt-out plug-in... but for the life of me i can't 
find the right line to edit in about:config


suggestions?

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Re: 2.2 upgrade

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Ken Rudolph sent me the following::

I've started getting the automatic upgrade to SM 2.2 box; but when I
naively started the upgrade I got a notice that there is no version of
IE Tab that works with SM 2.2. So I aborted the upgrade since I find
that IE Tab is one of the few extensions that I use a lot.

So I came here and started reading about all the problems that people
are having with SM 2.2 and the scary prospect of going back to 2.0.14 if
I wasn't happy. And I've decided to stick with 2.0.14 for the time
being. My question: are there ever going to be security updates for the
2.0.x version? Or will I have to go to 2.2 or 2.3 no matter what just to
keep a reasonable security level? Or, worse, will I have to discard SM
altogether and go to (ugh) Chrome (which I already must use for such
demanding sites as HBO To Go since that site doesn't even work with IE
Tab)?

I've been a loyal Mozilla person since Netscape 1; but is this where I
part company?



fwiw, i've had ZERO issues with Seamonkey 2.2 in linux since i upgraded 
the week it was released...


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two copies of every spam messages arrive

[sean nathan bean]

i am once again using my @netscape.net e'mail as my primary e'mail in 
Seamonkey 2.2...


wondering if anyone has an explanation as to why the aol servers send me 
two copies of all the spam... anyone else seeing this via the @aim @aol 
@netscape servers?


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Re: Back to 2.14.....

[sean nathan bean]

Mike sent the following::



On my laptop, I dual boot between 7 and Ubuntu. My SM profile lives on
the NTFS partition, which Ubuntu has write access too. So both OS's use
the same SM profile.


sorry to hijack a thread, but i also dual boot winXP and peppermintOS 
with the local folders residing on the ntfs partition... but each time i 
reboot into peppermintOS... i have to point the local folders to the 
location on ntfs partition... close and re-open seamonkey...


am i missing a setting?

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Re: Classic default theme works with 2.014 and not the newer updates

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David E. Ross sent us the following::


No, I haven't yet updated to SM 2.2.  I've got too many other tasks to
do on the Web to risk having to devote time to tweaking a new version.
It took too long to get all my necessary extensions from SM 2.0.14
working with SM 2.1 and to set preferences that changed to go through
that bother again right now.


fwiw, all of my extensions carried over and worked just fine between 21. 
and 2.2 when i upgraded yesterday...


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Re: update to 2.2 ... doesn't...

[sean nathan bean]

sean nathan bean sent me the following::

WLS sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

my update has been spinning for a couple of hours now...

sean



Originally installed manually or from a software management update?

My SM 2.1 was installed from the mozilla repository, but openSUSE forgot
to take out the Check for Updates menu item like they normally do and of
course it wouldn't update, using that menu item.

I installed SM 2.2 from the tarball.


originally installed from a tarball too... peppermint Two...

so uncheck the updater then...

sean




just installed via unzipping the tarball... all looks good thus far...

yay, tagzilla still works, which means jslib is working, as does quote 
colors...


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Re: Unable to authenticate to SMTP ?? #@?

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cmcadams sent me the following::

Jay O'Brien wrote:

I Agree, it has been doing this exact thing to me on three
different computers with three different email addresses
on att.net for several months. No one seems concerned.
Sometimes I have to send as many as seven times before it
finally is accepted. ATT/Yahoo is no help, either.

Jay

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Subject: Unable to authenticate to SMTP ?? #@?
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:46:27 -0400
From: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

I'm using SM 2.0.14 .
For this account according to the account settings:
- I am connecting to pop.att.yahoo.net:995 .
- The outgoing server (SMTP) is
urj...@bellsouth.net - smtp.att.y...
(I'm guessing that's smtp.att.yahoo.net . But the
box for entering the entry doesn't scroll. So I can
not verify the name)
- Connection security is SSL/TLS
and the check box for 'Use secure authentication' is unchecked

[By the way, the account editing window can not be re-sized.
For server settings, it is too narrow so that the boxes
for 'advanced' and 'browse' are truncated on the right.
Has the window been made re-sizable now for 2.1+ ]

Recently my system has begun to issue the following error
when I try to send out emails on this account:
"Sending of message failed. An error occurred sending mail:
Unable to authenticate to SMTP server smtp.att.yahoo.com.
It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you have
chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'use name and password'
for that server or contact your server provider"

NOTE: This is not a hard error. If I wait a minute or two
and retry sending the message, it is sent out successfully.

So who's to blame? AND how do I get rid of this annoyance?



Occurs irregularly here as well. Settings correct, per their own
instructions. Persistence in clicking Send has worked for me, thus far.
Wouldn't dream of contacting ATT/Yahoo. :P


its a problem with servers being busy at AT&T's end of the pipe... 
beginning to happen again with aim/aol/netscape servers too...


sean


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Re: deja vu ... Re: e'mail adresses getting munged...

[sean nathan bean]

Stanimir Stamenkov sent me the following::

Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:23:26 -0700, /sean nathan bean/:

sean bean sent me the following::


lately when addressing my e'mail,i notice the autofill is munging things
a wee bit... instead of:

contact name 

it autofills:

contact name <"contactname"@hotmail.com >

which i can't edit, and never gets delivered...


here we go all over again ... the very same e'mail addresses have
once again begun showing up as "contact name"@domain.com

only this time there is no leading empty space when i go to
investigate... so SM is messing with me mind & me addressbook again...


Try checking about (and remove) trailing (not leading) space.



arrrggghhh i meant to type following... but, the question remains... how 
do these spaces keep appearing? its not a new e'mail address...


sean


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Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions

[sean nathan bean]

MCBastos sent me the following::

Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 03:53, sean nathan bean told the world:

Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following::

On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the
version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each,
it took me about an hour to tweak them all.


Installing the "Extension Compatability Reporter"
[https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will
actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have
the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions
to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without
needing to manually change any files.


goint to the addon's page with:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1

the addon's page tells me:


This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1.


8.0a1? ...

i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a
string i need to add?

i feel like i'm losing my mind here...



Try using the Seamonkey download page instead of the Firefox one:

https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/


thx... used to be all mozilla addons or themes all were in one place and 
the page wold indicate whether said addon or theme was available for 
Firefox or SeaMonkey...


sorta sad to see they can't be both added from the same download page...

sean






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Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions

[sean nathan bean]

Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following::

On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the
version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each,
it took me about an hour to tweak them all.


Installing the "Extension Compatability Reporter"
[https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will
actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have
the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions
to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without
needing to manually change any files.


goint to the addon's page with:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1


the addon's page tells me:


This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1.


8.0a1? ...

i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a 
string i need to add?


i feel like i'm losing my mind here...

sean





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Re: update to 2.2 ... doesn't...

[sean nathan bean]

WLS sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

my update has been spinning for a couple of hours now...

sean



Originally installed manually or from a software management update?

My SM 2.1 was installed from the mozilla repository, but openSUSE forgot
to take out the Check for Updates menu item like they normally do and of
course it wouldn't update, using that menu item.

I installed SM 2.2 from the tarball.


originally installed from a tarball too... peppermint Two...

so uncheck the updater then...

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update to 2.2 ... doesn't...

[sean nathan bean]

my update has been spinning for a couple of hours now...

sean

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deja vu ... Re: e'mail adresses getting munged...

[sean nathan bean]

sean bean sent me the following::

lately when addressing my e'mail,i notice the autofill is munging things
a wee bit... instead of:

contact name 

it autofills:

contact name <"contactname"@hotmail.com >

which i can't edit, and never gets delivered...

sean


here we go all over again ... the very same e'mail addresses have once 
again begun showing up as "contact name"@domain.com


only this time there is no leading empty space when i go to 
investigate... so SM is messing with me mind & me addressbook again...


sean



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Re: YouTube problems?

[sean nathan bean]

George Carden sent me the following::

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


adblock? ... noscript?... flashlock? disable your various addons one by 
one...

sean




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Re: Thank you, SM Developers

[sean nathan bean]

Stan sent me the following::

I switched over to 2.1 and everything is running fine. There are a
couple of add-ons that need updating but I am sure that will get done soon.

Thank you all once again for all your hard work. Thanks to you, the
developers, people like me have been able to continue along the Netscape
path and still be using this very logical way of doing things.

Bravo!

Stan Pierce


wanting to add my thanks to the devs too... SM is running quite nicely 
here in peppermintOS linux...


all is well here...
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Re: Anyway to use Sync bookmarks addon with Seamonkey?

[sean nathan bean]

WLS sent me the following::

sean bean wrote:

WLS wrote:

sean bean wrote:

goldtech wrote:

Hi,

Is there anyway to use sync bookmarks addon with SM 2.0.14 ? Right now
I have FF installed then I import the syn'd bookmarks from FF to SM...

thanks


Sync is working quite well in the 2.2a1pre versions of SeaMonkey... now
if only i could get Lightning to install

sean



Which version of SM 2.2a1pre do you have and which Lightning are you
trying to install?

The one I use with SM 2.1 RC1 and Thunderbird 5 beta (both 32-bit) can
be found here.

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/




well this one actually managed to get permission to be installed...
mucho appreciado

sean



I get most of my information from (gasp!) a web forum called
MozillaZine. http://forums.mozillazine.org/

You would be surprised what you can learn there. I recommend everyone
register there. :)


i generally dislike webforums... far prefer the newsgroups...

just getting around to reinstalling lightning and searching down all of 
my calendar backups today...


whilst recovering from last nights early July 4th festivities...

sean


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Re: tagzilla & phillip chee

[sean nathan bean]

MCBastos sent me the following::

Interviewed by CNN on 30/06/2011 17:29, sean nathan bean told the world:

are you going to be updating this page anytime soon?

http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/

or linking it back into the thunderbird and seamonkey addons?


Tagzilla's page is NOT under the responsibility of Philip Chee.



chill out... it was just a friendly nudge...

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Re: tagzilla & phillip chee

[sean nathan bean]

Philip Chee sent me the following::

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:29:10 -0700, sean nathan bean wrote:

are you going to be updating this page anytime soon?

http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/

or linking it back into the thunderbird and seamonkey addons?

sean


Sorry I keep forgetting. I'll remember to do this one day.

Phil



just a nudge... ;>) i know you all do this out of your love for the 
product... but if they can't be linked, i'd suggest dumping one site or 
the other... its distressing to search and have the "not updated since 
2004" page pop up first in results...


sean





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Re: Yahoo REfuses to allow the new version of their Yahoo mail on SeaMonkey

[sean nathan bean]

cyberzen sent me the following::

PhillipJones a écrit :

Received a message from Yahoo this morning to update my Yahoo Mail. I go
to do it. First thing doesn't accept SeaMonkey at all. So I have the UA
set to show FireFox 4. still doesn't accept What's with that?




use seamonkey's Mail client ?

pop.mail.yahoo.fr (SSL, port 995)

smtp.mail.yahoo.fr (SSL, port 465 avec authentification)

imap.mail.yahoo.com (SSL, port 993)



'cisely... why torture oneself with webmail interfaces...
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tagzilla & phillip chee

[sean nathan bean]

are you going to be updating this page anytime soon?

http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/

or linking it back into the thunderbird and seamonkey addons?

sean

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Re: Add signature

[sean nathan bean]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Is there an extension that allows a user to quickly add a pre-defined
signature after drafting an e-mail?

The extension I was using doesn't work in SM 2.1.

I don't usually want to use a signature, so SM's built-in functionality
doesn't help me. And when I DO want a signature, it might be one of
several different ones, depending on whether the email is business,
personal, etc.

Right no I'm back to the old method of opening a text file and using
copy-paste to insert the correct signature -- it feels so 1995!



oops...

tagzilla is the addon you are looking for...

jslib needs to be installed first... then tagzilla

sean





I'd like to try it -- but I can't find either jslib or tagzilla here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/?browse=new

Should I be looking somewhere else?


oops... install both jslib and tagzilla from the links on this page if 
you are using 2.1


http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla

again... jslib first reboot... then tagzilla

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Re: Add signature

[sean nathan bean]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Is there an extension that allows a user to quickly add a pre-defined
signature after drafting an e-mail?

The extension I was using doesn't work in SM 2.1.

I don't usually want to use a signature, so SM's built-in functionality
doesn't help me. And when I DO want a signature, it might be one of
several different ones, depending on whether the email is business,
personal, etc.

Right no I'm back to the old method of opening a text file and using
copy-paste to insert the correct signature -- it feels so 1995!



oops...

tagzilla is the addon you are looking for...

jslib needs to be installed first... then tagzilla

sean





I'd like to try it -- but I can't find either jslib or tagzilla here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/?browse=new

Should I be looking somewhere else?


jslib is here:
http://jslib.mozdev.org/installation.html

then the latest tagzilla is here:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla

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Re: can't move addresses..

[sean nathan bean]

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

sean bean wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Card Summary Pane


i'm not certain what the "card summary pane" refers to, i think i do,
but am unsure... a search doesn't help yet...

but whatever the case i can only move an e'mail address from one
addressbook, to another by creating a new entry...

same for moving from addressbook to a new list...

sean

card summary pane:


Top Address Book Toolbar menu: "View > Show/Hide > Card Summary Pane"

Heh! at least I can still move from and Address Book to a new list. The
Bookmarks folder and page-name edits has just been recovered, so you may
not have a long wait for this to be restored.


well... poke around a bit and you learn something new everyday... ;>)
confirmed that i did indeed already know what the "card summary pane" 
is... the preview of each entry...


i dumped the bleeding edge 2.4 seamonkey builds after my latest linux 
peppermint Two upgrade, as i was weary of fixing my preferred addons and 
extensions...


happy to report the drag and drop of individual e'mail addresses or 
lists is working fine in this build


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Re: Add signature

[sean nathan bean]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Is there an extension that allows a user to quickly add a pre-defined
signature after drafting an e-mail?

The extension I was using doesn't work in SM 2.1.

I don't usually want to use a signature, so SM's built-in functionality
doesn't help me. And when I DO want a signature, it might be one of
several different ones, depending on whether the email is business,
personal, etc.

Right no I'm back to the old method of opening a text file and using
copy-paste to insert the correct signature -- it feels so 1995!



tagzilla is what you are looking for...

first install jslib... then tagzilla...

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Re: Add signature

[sean nathan bean]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Is there an extension that allows a user to quickly add a pre-defined
signature after drafting an e-mail?

The extension I was using doesn't work in SM 2.1.

I don't usually want to use a signature, so SM's built-in functionality
doesn't help me. And when I DO want a signature, it might be one of
several different ones, depending on whether the email is business,
personal, etc.

Right no I'm back to the old method of opening a text file and using
copy-paste to insert the correct signature -- it feels so 1995!



oops...

tagzilla is the addon you are looking for...

jslib needs to be installed first... then tagzilla

sean

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Re: Advertise Firefox compatibility [and incompatible extension]

[sean nathan bean]

JeffM wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Advertising Firefox compatibility
only helps to get dumb browser-sniffing webpages to load correctly.


I call those "Web pages constructed by idiots"
but you're a more kind and gentle soul than I am.


Extension compatibility is an entirely different subject.


I'm a one-step-at-a-time kind of guy.
The OP *could* have **downloaded** the XPI
(I'm ASSuMEing; I didn't go to the page[1])
then **installed** the extension from his own HDD.

At that point the website is out of the picture
and the failure mode becomes more obvious.
I recommed this technique for those having problems.
DO right-click and **download** when the option is available.
.
.
[1] ...and if the actual link to the downloadable file *wasn't*
available
and was instead buried behind scripting,
THAT would be the kind of thing that gives me a rash.


i have lots of lotion for the rash...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fb-purity-cleans-up-facebook/contribute/roadblock/?src=browse&version=4.5.2

don't see anyplace to download the .xpi

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Re: Advertise Firefox compatibility:

[sean nathan bean]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/22/11 10:19 AM, sean nathan bean wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 22/06/2011 01:36, sean nathan bean told the world:

wondering how this will work to get http://www.fbpurity.com/ working in
seamonkey...


Not at all. Advertising Firefox compatibility only helps to get dumb
browser-sniffing webpages to load correctly. Extension compatibility is
an entirely different subject.


t'was afraid of that.. nightly tester tools works differently now...
allowed installation of jslib and tagzilla, but not quote colors
norfbpurity...

oh well... any pointers on addon/extension compatibility?

sean



For extensions (XPI files), see my reply earlier today in this newsgroup
under the subject "Can't download to install SM2.0 extensions on a
clean/new installed SM2.1?"  Note that this will not always work because
some XPI files resist editing.

I believe the compatibility of plugins (DLL files) rests primarily with
the version of your operating system and only slightly with the version
of your browser.  I would be surprised if many plugins even check the
version of your browser.  However, they often do check the brand (e.g.,
IE, Chome, Firefox, SeaMonkey).

The difference arises from the fact that Add-ons Manager -- a component
of Firefox, SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, etc -- handles the installation of
extensions while your operating system handles the installation of
plugins.



i'm working primarily in linux these days, as my laptop is resisting any 
reclamation of its WinXP MCE partition...


again, pointers are very much appreciated...

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Re: Advertise Firefox compatibility:

[sean nathan bean]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 22/06/2011 01:36, sean nathan bean told the world:

wondering how this will work to get http://www.fbpurity.com/ working in
seamonkey...


Not at all. Advertising Firefox compatibility only helps to get dumb
browser-sniffing webpages to load correctly. Extension compatibility is
an entirely different subject.


t'was afraid of that.. nightly tester tools works differently now... 
allowed installation of jslib and tagzilla, but not quote colors 
norfbpurity...


oh well... any pointers on addon/extension compatibility?

sean




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Re: Advertise Firefox compatibility:

[sean nathan bean]

JeffM wrote:

sean nathan bean wrote:

it displays no problem,
but won't let me install the firefox compatible addon...


The version numbers of SeaMonkey
are at least one integer behind Firefox.
If an extension checks for a version number upon installation,
first, you better assure that the version numbers line up.


i'm new to user agent sniff/spoofing ... when i click to dowload the 
plugin from fbpurity.com site, the addon popup tells me it isn't 
compatible with seamonkey 2.1 ... so which about config file do i need 
to change... ? or is this not the intent of advertising firefox 
compatibility?


recent "old laptop triage" events have knocked my computer semi-pro 
status for several loops of late...


sean




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Re: Advertise Firefox compatibility:

[sean nathan bean]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/21/11 9:36 PM, sean nathan bean wrote:

wondering how this will work to get http://www.fbpurity.com/ working in
seamonkey...

sean



What is not working?  I've diabled Advertise Firefox compatibility.  I
went to the FB Purity page you cite.  It displayed without any problem.



it displays no problem, but won't let me install the firefox compatible 
addon...


sean


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Advertise Firefox compatibility:

[sean nathan bean]

wondering how this will work to get http://www.fbpurity.com/ working in 
seamonkey...


sean

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