Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-09-01 Thread summan

Dick Hoffman wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions
installed. When trying to view the video at the site
http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/


the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not play
although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I looked
at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the Adobe
Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I have only
one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem playing the
video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Dick


They sniff for MSIE, Firefox and Safari. If they don't find one of
those they fail. (JavaScript throws error: this.browserDetection() has
no properties)

Video works for me if I use User Agent Switcher to spoof Firefox. SM
1.1.18, Windows XP-SP3.

lj

Thanks for your quick replies. Nice to know it's not my installation
that's at fault. Guess I'll break down and install the User Agent
Switcher.
Dick

Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher, switched to
IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but
the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result.
Deinstalled the Switcher.
Dick


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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

William Morrison wrote:


I'm running XP Sp3 and couldn't get to work with Seamonkey 2.0.4 but
did with IE8 and Chrome, tried Safari for Windows and got a pop-up
saying they didn't support that browser with a list of supported
ones; Windows: IE7, IE8, Foxfire3, Foxfire2, Chrome with Mac:
Foxfire3, Foxfire2, Safari, Chrome, Camino


Foxfire? That's a new one on me.

If they're sniffing for that, the site is worse than we thought...

;-)

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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-30 Thread William Morrison



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

William Morrison wrote:


I'm running XP Sp3 and couldn't get to work with Seamonkey 2.0.4 but
did with IE8 and Chrome, tried Safari for Windows and got a pop-up
saying they didn't support that browser with a list of supported
ones; Windows: IE7, IE8, Foxfire3, Foxfire2, Chrome with Mac:
Foxfire3, Foxfire2, Safari, Chrome, Camino


Foxfire? That's a new one on me.

If they're sniffing for that, the site is worse than we thought...

;-)

Ok so I had my tongue wrapped around my eye teeth and couldn't see what 
I was typing. LOL  I never have used it, just IE, Netscape and Seamonkey 
but have Chrome and Safari on my computer for when those gave me problems.


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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-30 Thread Dick Hoffman

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 4/29/2010 3:18 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote:

Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher, switched to
IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but
the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result.
Deinstalled the Switcher.
Dick



Actually, you're running a Gecko-based browser, so you want to
spoof Firefox. If the site is sending IE-specific code when it
thinks you're running IE (because you spoofed it that way), then
you'll get code your browser can't run.

Just so you understand, the spoofer doesn't make your browser
*act* like the browser you're spoofing. It just makes your
browser *say* it's the browser you're spoofing.

You'll want User Agent Switcher. If I were you, I would install
it and learn to use it.

By the way, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent settings.
You'll need to get your own and add them to it. You can search
(using Google or similar) for User Agent Strings to find lots
of them available.

OK, I tried User Agent Switcher but there's no Firefox setting in it as 
installed and I don't understand how to update it to add just Firefox. I 
then tried Prefbar and got essentially the same result; no Firefox 
setting and no clear way to update it. There's probably some forum to go 
to for help with extensions, right?

Dick
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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-30 Thread Rufus

Dick Hoffman wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 4/29/2010 3:18 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote:

Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher, switched to
IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but
the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result.
Deinstalled the Switcher.
Dick



Actually, you're running a Gecko-based browser, so you want to
spoof Firefox. If the site is sending IE-specific code when it
thinks you're running IE (because you spoofed it that way), then
you'll get code your browser can't run.

Just so you understand, the spoofer doesn't make your browser
*act* like the browser you're spoofing. It just makes your
browser *say* it's the browser you're spoofing.

You'll want User Agent Switcher. If I were you, I would install
it and learn to use it.

By the way, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent settings.
You'll need to get your own and add them to it. You can search
(using Google or similar) for User Agent Strings to find lots
of them available.

OK, I tried User Agent Switcher but there's no Firefox setting in it as 
installed and I don't understand how to update it to add just Firefox. I 
then tried Prefbar and got essentially the same result; no Firefox 
setting and no clear way to update it. There's probably some forum to go 
to for help with extensions, right?

Dick


I use this very handy reference site with User Agent Switcher -

http://www.useragentstring.com/

Just go to the List of User Agent Strings, and copy the one you'd like 
to spoof.  Then open User Agent Switcher, select Edit User Agents-New 
and paste in the new string.


Really slick and easy once you get the hang of it, and the website above 
does a good job of telling you what the contents/syntax of a User Agent 
string actually mean - I've even hacked up one or two of my own for 
Safari that weren't listed on the site at the time.


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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-30 Thread Dick Hoffman

Rufus wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 4/29/2010 3:18 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote:

Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher,
switched to
IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but
the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result.
Deinstalled the Switcher.
Dick



Actually, you're running a Gecko-based browser, so you want to
spoof Firefox. If the site is sending IE-specific code when it
thinks you're running IE (because you spoofed it that way), then
you'll get code your browser can't run.

Just so you understand, the spoofer doesn't make your browser
*act* like the browser you're spoofing. It just makes your
browser *say* it's the browser you're spoofing.

You'll want User Agent Switcher. If I were you, I would install
it and learn to use it.

By the way, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent settings.
You'll need to get your own and add them to it. You can search
(using Google or similar) for User Agent Strings to find lots
of them available.


OK, I tried User Agent Switcher but there's no Firefox setting in it
as installed and I don't understand how to update it to add just
Firefox. I then tried Prefbar and got essentially the same result; no
Firefox setting and no clear way to update it. There's probably some
forum to go to for help with extensions, right?
Dick


I use this very handy reference site with User Agent Switcher -

http://www.useragentstring.com/

Just go to the List of User Agent Strings, and copy the one you'd like
to spoof. Then open User Agent Switcher, select Edit User Agents-New
and paste in the new string.

Really slick and easy once you get the hang of it, and the website above
does a good job of telling you what the contents/syntax of a User Agent
string actually mean - I've even hacked up one or two of my own for
Safari that weren't listed on the site at the time.

Thanks, Rufus, for the very simple instructions. That worked; now my 
wife can watch the genealogy videos with SM to her heart's content.

Dick
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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/30/10 10:34 AM, Dick Hoffman wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 4/29/2010 3:18 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote:
 Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher, switched to
 IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but
 the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result.
 Deinstalled the Switcher.
 Dick


 Actually, you're running a Gecko-based browser, so you want to
 spoof Firefox. If the site is sending IE-specific code when it
 thinks you're running IE (because you spoofed it that way), then
 you'll get code your browser can't run.

 Just so you understand, the spoofer doesn't make your browser
 *act* like the browser you're spoofing. It just makes your
 browser *say* it's the browser you're spoofing.

 You'll want User Agent Switcher. If I were you, I would install
 it and learn to use it.

 By the way, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent settings.
 You'll need to get your own and add them to it. You can search
 (using Google or similar) for User Agent Strings to find lots
 of them available.

 OK, I tried User Agent Switcher but there's no Firefox setting in it as 
 installed and I don't understand how to update it to add just Firefox. I 
 then tried Prefbar and got essentially the same result; no Firefox 
 setting and no clear way to update it. There's probably some forum to go 
 to for help with extensions, right?
 Dick

For PrefBar:

1.  Right-click anywhere on the PrefBar toolbar and select Customize
PrefBar from the pull-down menu.

2.  On the Preferences Toolbar pane of the resulting Preferences window,
locate User Agent under either Available Items or Enabled Items.

3.  If User Agent is under Available Items, select it and drag it to
Enabled Items.  Then drag it up or down to where you want it in the
toolbar.

4.  Right-click on User Agent and select Edit from the pull-down menu.

5.  On the Edit Item window, select the + button in the lower-left corner.

6.  In the resulting blank entry in the Edit Item window, type
Firefox 3.6 WinXP
under Label.

7.  In the same entry in the Edit Item window, type
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3)
Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3
all in a single line under Value.  There is one space between
rv:1.9.2.3) and Gecko/20100401.

8.  Select the OK buttons on the Edit Item and Preferences windows.

To use:

*   If the User Agent item on the PrefBar toolbar is visible within your
browser window, select its down-triangle and then select the user agent
you wish to spoof.

*   If the toolbar is full and the User Agent item is off to the right,
select the double  at the far right on the toolbar.  Select User Agent
from the pull-down menu and then select your desired user agent from the
pull-down submenu.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread Dick Hoffman
I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions 
installed. When trying to view the video at the site

http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read 
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not play 
although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I looked 
at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the Adobe 
Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I have only 
one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem playing the 
video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dick
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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread Rickles

Dick Hoffman wrote:
I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions 
installed. When trying to view the video at the site

http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read 
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not play 
although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I looked 
at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the Adobe 
Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I have only 
one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem playing the 
video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dick
I'm on WinXP Pro-SP3, but SM1.1.19 with MultiZilla, IETab and a couple 
of mail plugins installed, Classic Theme.  This page doesn't get past 
the peacock symbol for me, either.  Not even when I choose to view it in 
an IE tab (IE 8 is installed, only used in situations like this.)  I 
tried one or two other clips at random, and none play.


Checking the page code thru W3C Validator, it comes up with 400 errrors 
and 300 warnings about the state of the code.  That's not good.


A page can render in IE and not SeaMonkey (or even FireFox) because it 
was written that way.  Probably not intentionally, but since a lot of 
tools cater to bells  whistles that aren't W3C-standards compliant, 
other browser rendering engines sometimes can't make sense of what the 
tools produce.


Complain to the webmaster and see what they say.  It's them, not you.
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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread Lemuel Johnson

Dick Hoffman wrote:
I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions 
installed. When trying to view the video at the site

http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read 
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not play 
although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I looked 
at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the Adobe 
Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I have only 
one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem playing the 
video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dick


They sniff for MSIE, Firefox and Safari.  If they don't find one 
of those they fail.  (JavaScript throws error: this.browserDetection() 
has no properties)


Video works for me if I use User Agent Switcher to spoof Firefox.  SM 
1.1.18, Windows XP-SP3.


lj
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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread Dick Hoffman

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions
installed. When trying to view the video at the site
http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not play
although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I looked
at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the Adobe
Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I have only
one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem playing the
video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Dick


They sniff for MSIE, Firefox and Safari. If they don't find one of
those they fail. (JavaScript throws error: this.browserDetection() has
no properties)

Video works for me if I use User Agent Switcher to spoof Firefox. SM
1.1.18, Windows XP-SP3.

lj
Thanks for your quick replies. Nice to know it's not my installation 
that's at fault. Guess I'll break down and install the User Agent Switcher.

Dick
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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread Dick Hoffman

Dick Hoffman wrote:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions
installed. When trying to view the video at the site
http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/

the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not play
although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I looked
at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the Adobe
Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I have only
one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem playing the
video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Dick


They sniff for MSIE, Firefox and Safari. If they don't find one of
those they fail. (JavaScript throws error: this.browserDetection() has
no properties)

Video works for me if I use User Agent Switcher to spoof Firefox. SM
1.1.18, Windows XP-SP3.

lj

Thanks for your quick replies. Nice to know it's not my installation
that's at fault. Guess I'll break down and install the User Agent Switcher.
Dick
Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher, switched to 
IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but 
the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result. 
Deinstalled the Switcher.

Dick

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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Dick Hoffman wrote:

I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions 
installed. When trying to view the video at the site 
http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
 the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read 
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not

play although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I
looked at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the
Adobe Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I
have only one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem
playing the video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


I also get the peacock, which periodically refreshes, with a horizontal 
white line between the main peacock and its reflection. The horizontal 
line gradually widens (not thickens) as if intended to be an 
artsy-fartsy progress bar, but stops when it's a little less than twice 
the width of the peacock. The status bar displays Transferring data 
from www.nbc.com..., and my LAN icon in the tray stays lit to show data 
arriving.


This is the page's stable state even after 15 minutes of waiting with a 
broadband connection. If they're going to load an entire half-hour video 
before displaying any of it, that's both stupid and rude, which is why I 
closed the window.


The video displays no controls, even if I mouse over it.

WinXP, SM 1.16, Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45.

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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread William Morrison



Dick Hoffman wrote:
I'm using SM 2.0.4 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. I have no extensions 
installed. When trying to view the video at the site

http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
the site loads so far and then stops with either Done or Read 
www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen. The video does not play 
although the peacock's tail changes colors from time to time. I looked 
at about:plugins and it says I have version 10.0 r45 of the Adobe 
Flash Player installed and a Windows Explore search shows I have only 
one copy of NPSWF32.dll on the system. IE 8 has no problem playing the 
video. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dick

I'm running XP Sp3 and couldn't get to work with Seamonkey 2.0.4 but did 
with IE8 and Chrome, tried Safari for Windows and got a pop-up saying 
they didn't support that browser with a list of supported ones; Windows: 
IE7, IE8, Foxfire3, Foxfire2, Chrome with Mac: Foxfire3, Foxfire2, 
Safari, Chrome, Camino



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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread JeffM
Dick Hoffman wrote:
When trying to view the video at the site
http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
the site loads so far and then stops with either Done
or Read www.nbc.com at the bottom left of the screen.

That page is a steaming pile of bad.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/susan-sarandon/1222188/
406 Errors

If the bozo that built that site built cars, it would look like this:
http://google.com/images?q=Johnny-Cash+One-Piece-at-a-Time
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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

2010-04-29 Thread Mark Hansen
On 4/29/2010 3:18 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote:
 Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher, switched to 
 IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but 
 the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result. 
 Deinstalled the Switcher.
 Dick
 

Actually, you're running a Gecko-based browser, so you want to
spoof Firefox. If the site is sending IE-specific code when it
thinks you're running IE (because you spoofed it that way), then
you'll get code your browser can't run.

Just so you understand, the spoofer doesn't make your browser
*act* like the browser you're spoofing. It just makes your
browser *say* it's the browser you're spoofing.

You'll want User Agent Switcher. If I were you, I would install
it and learn to use it.

By the way, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent settings.
You'll need to get your own and add them to it. You can search
(using Google or similar) for User Agent Strings to find lots
of them available.

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