Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-25 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Ed Mullen wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 3/24/2015 6:18 PM:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I have no new extensions I have only:

LookOut+
Remove Duplicates


Did you try disabling them and restarting SeaMonkey? I'm not familiar
with LookOut+, but it sounds like something to do with interacting with
MS Outlook. A quick look mentions it doing something with iCalendar
(ics) files, so may well interfere with Lightning in some way.



I just tried disabling extensions but it didn't change anything. It
still doesn't work.


The previous version of Lightning worked just fine with them


It's possible that a new version of Lightning or one of those may have
introduced a conflict. If disabling those add-ons allows Lightning to
work, that would be useful information for the developers of the
add-ons
involved, and a possible workaround while you wait for a fix.


Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it
may be
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there.
Tools 
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it.
You
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may
not be
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether
it's
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.



I forgot to mention I created a new profile. I had to load Lightning
into it. It has the same problem as the original.


About the only other thing I can think to try is to back up your profile
(just in case), uninstall SeaMonkey, and reinstall using the latest
installer. That might fix something which a series of updates hasn't
properly applied.


The problem with your suggestion is that uninstalling SM will NOT delete
the SM profile.  When you re-install SM it will find the old profile and
use it.  So, if the issue is with the profile you've accomplished nothing.

The right way to do it is to create a new plain profile and direct SM
to use it.  Then, one-by-one, add back the extensions, restart, test,
and see if the issue returns. Then you have the culprit.


I'd already suggested a new profile, and Rob mentioned above that it 
didn't help. I agree a reinstall is unlikely to help, but just thought a 
series of updates might have left something behind which a fresh install 
might clean up.



I recently cured a months-long performance issue in SM by deleting all
profiles and files, creating a new one, and painstakingly recreating all
of my mail and news accounts.  Problem solved.

No idea to this day what the issue was but it's gone.


It's sometimes possible to work it out by comparing the old and new 
profiles, but it is probably easier to do as you did and port important 
stuff to a working new profile rather than fix the old one.


Mark.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-24 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I have no new extensions I have only:

LookOut+
Remove Duplicates


Did you try disabling them and restarting SeaMonkey? I'm not familiar
with LookOut+, but it sounds like something to do with interacting with
MS Outlook. A quick look mentions it doing something with iCalendar
(ics) files, so may well interfere with Lightning in some way.



I just tried disabling extensions but it didn't change anything. It
still doesn't work.


The previous version of Lightning worked just fine with them


It's possible that a new version of Lightning or one of those may have
introduced a conflict. If disabling those add-ons allows Lightning to
work, that would be useful information for the developers of the add-ons
involved, and a possible workaround while you wait for a fix.


Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it may be
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there. Tools 
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it. You
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may not be
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether it's
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.



I forgot to mention I created a new profile. I had to load Lightning
into it. It has the same problem as the original.


About the only other thing I can think to try is to back up your profile 
(just in case), uninstall SeaMonkey, and reinstall using the latest 
installer. That might fix something which a series of updates hasn't 
properly applied.


Other than that, I'm out of ideas other than the possibility that 
Windows XP is the problem. It would be useful to know if anyone else has 
SeaMonkey 2.33 / Lightning 3.8b2 working on Windows XP...


Mark.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-24 Thread Burry

On 24.03.15 23:18, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I have no new extensions I have only:

LookOut+
Remove Duplicates


Did you try disabling them and restarting SeaMonkey? I'm not familiar
with LookOut+, but it sounds like something to do with interacting with
MS Outlook. A quick look mentions it doing something with iCalendar
(ics) files, so may well interfere with Lightning in some way.



I just tried disabling extensions but it didn't change anything. It
still doesn't work.


The previous version of Lightning worked just fine with them


It's possible that a new version of Lightning or one of those may have
introduced a conflict. If disabling those add-ons allows Lightning to
work, that would be useful information for the developers of the add-ons
involved, and a possible workaround while you wait for a fix.


Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it may be
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there. Tools 
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it. You
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may not be
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether it's
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.



I forgot to mention I created a new profile. I had to load Lightning
into it. It has the same problem as the original.


About the only other thing I can think to try is to back up your profile
(just in case), uninstall SeaMonkey, and reinstall using the latest
installer. That might fix something which a series of updates hasn't
properly applied.

Other than that, I'm out of ideas other than the possibility that
Windows XP is the problem. It would be useful to know if anyone else has
SeaMonkey 2.33 / Lightning 3.8b2 working on Windows XP...

Mark.


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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-24 Thread Ed Mullen

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 3/24/2015 6:18 PM:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I have no new extensions I have only:

LookOut+
Remove Duplicates


Did you try disabling them and restarting SeaMonkey? I'm not familiar
with LookOut+, but it sounds like something to do with interacting with
MS Outlook. A quick look mentions it doing something with iCalendar
(ics) files, so may well interfere with Lightning in some way.



I just tried disabling extensions but it didn't change anything. It
still doesn't work.


The previous version of Lightning worked just fine with them


It's possible that a new version of Lightning or one of those may have
introduced a conflict. If disabling those add-ons allows Lightning to
work, that would be useful information for the developers of the add-ons
involved, and a possible workaround while you wait for a fix.


Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it may be
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there. Tools 
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it.
You
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may
not be
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether
it's
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.



I forgot to mention I created a new profile. I had to load Lightning
into it. It has the same problem as the original.


About the only other thing I can think to try is to back up your profile
(just in case), uninstall SeaMonkey, and reinstall using the latest
installer. That might fix something which a series of updates hasn't
properly applied.


The problem with your suggestion is that uninstalling SM will NOT delete 
the SM profile.  When you re-install SM it will find the old profile and 
use it.  So, if the issue is with the profile you've accomplished nothing.


The right way to do it is to create a new plain profile and direct SM 
to use it.  Then, one-by-one, add back the extensions, restart, test, 
and see if the issue returns. Then you have the culprit.


I recently cured a months-long performance issue in SM by deleting all 
profiles and files, creating a new one, and painstakingly recreating all 
of my mail and news accounts.  Problem solved.


No idea to this day what the issue was but it's gone.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-23 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Michael Ströder wrote:


Could you please point us to the exact URL?

For me 3.8b1 build 2 works for me on openSUSE Linux x86_64 but not on
Windows 8.1.

I can't see any 3.8b2 on [1]. Or is 3.8b1 candidate build 2 what you
really meant?

Ciao, Michael.

[1] https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/candidates/


I usually get them from here.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/
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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-23 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Please see my answers below.

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:



Which language do you have SeaMonkey set to use? Lightning 3.7b1 seemed
to be missing most languages, and I wonder if 3.8b2 still has problems
in languages other than English?


The Only Language installed US English


What other extensions do you have installed? May be a conflict with one
of those. Perhaps try going to Tools  Add-ons Manager  Extensions and
disabling all except Lightning, then restart and see if Lightning works.


I have no new extensions I have only:

LookOut+
Remove Duplicates

The previous version of Lightning workd just fine with them



Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it may be
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there. Tools 
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it. You
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may not be
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether it's
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.

Hopefully those checks will give some clues...

Mark.



I have seem reports of both Windows 7 and Windows 8 not working and 
reports of both working.


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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-23 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Please see my answers below.

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:



Which language do you have SeaMonkey set to use? Lightning 3.7b1 seemed
to be missing most languages, and I wonder if 3.8b2 still has problems
in languages other than English?


The Only Language installed US English


What other extensions do you have installed? May be a conflict with one
of those. Perhaps try going to Tools  Add-ons Manager  Extensions and
disabling all except Lightning, then restart and see if Lightning works.


I have no new extensions I have only:

LookOut+
Remove Duplicates


Did you try disabling them and restarting SeaMonkey? I'm not familiar 
with LookOut+, but it sounds like something to do with interacting with 
MS Outlook. A quick look mentions it doing something with iCalendar 
(ics) files, so may well interfere with Lightning in some way.



The previous version of Lightning workd just fine with them


It's possible that a new version of Lightning or one of those may have 
introduced a conflict. If disabling those add-ons allows Lightning to 
work, that would be useful information for the developers of the add-ons 
involved, and a possible workaround while you wait for a fix.



Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it may be
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there. Tools 
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it. You
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may not be
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether it's
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.

Hopefully those checks will give some clues...

Mark.



I have seem reports of both Windows 7 and Windows 8 not working and
reports of both working.


Yep. The challenge is to work out what's different between those setups...

Mark.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-23 Thread Rob Steinmetz

See my comments below.

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


I have no new extensions I have only:

LookOut+
Remove Duplicates


Did you try disabling them and restarting SeaMonkey? I'm not familiar
with LookOut+, but it sounds like something to do with interacting with
MS Outlook. A quick look mentions it doing something with iCalendar
(ics) files, so may well interfere with Lightning in some way.



I just tried disabling extensions but it didn't change anything. It 
still doesn't work.



The previous version of Lightning worked just fine with them


It's possible that a new version of Lightning or one of those may have
introduced a conflict. If disabling those add-ons allows Lightning to
work, that would be useful information for the developers of the add-ons
involved, and a possible workaround while you wait for a fix.


Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it may be
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there. Tools 
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it. You
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may not be
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether it's
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.



I forgot to mention I created a new profile. I had to load Lightning 
into it. It has the same problem as the original.


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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-23 Thread Michael Ströder

Wolf wrote:

Am 20.03.2015 um 08:06 schrieb David C. Mores:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:56:00 -0400, Rob Steinmetz
notrsteinm...@mindspring.com wrote:


I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my computer.
I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.


You need Lightning 3.9b.


Same problem here.  However, 3.9b is for SM 2.34 and is incompatible
with 2.33.  SM 2.34 is not available for download yet.


at least it is working under Linux (Ubuntuzilla).
*Seamonkey 2.33 works with lightning-3.8b2-sm+tb-linux*.


Could you please point us to the exact URL?

For me 3.8b1 build 2 works for me on openSUSE Linux x86_64 but not on Windows 
8.1.

I can't see any 3.8b2 on [1]. Or is 3.8b1 candidate build 2 what you really 
meant?

Ciao, Michael.

[1] https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/candidates/

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-22 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Robert Steinmetz wrote:

On 03/20/2015 04:58 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my computer.
I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.


Works fine for me - SeaMonkey 2.33 and Lightning 3.8b2 on Windows Vista.

What does nothing works mean? Does SeaMonkey not even start with
Lightning installed? Does it start but crash immediately? Does SeaMonkey
start OK, but there's no Events and Tasks menu in mail  news? Does
Lightning show up in the Extensions section of add-ons manager? Does
that give any clues as to why its not working (e.g. it might be
disabled)?

Mark.


Seamonkey works as usual however whenever the calendar or tasks tabs is
open the toll bar is greyed out and the calendar pane is blank, no dates
or events. When I receive an invitation by email it does not open or get
makes as read.


So you've got the Events and Tasks menu, and can open the Calendar and 
Tasks tabs, but they come up blank? I think I may have had something 
similar one time when I upgraded SeaMonkey but Lightning didn't update 
to the correct version to match.


Check your SeaMonkey and Lightning versions, to make sure the upgrades 
have installed correctly:

- Help  About SeaMonkey should show version 2.33
- Tools  Add-ons Manager  Extensions  Lightning should be 3.8b2
Some extensions install separately for each user / profile, so it may be 
that Lightning has been updated for one user but not others.


It looks like your original message was sent from Windows XP? I don't 
know if that might be a problem; anyone successfully running SeaMonkey 
2.33 / Lightning 3.8b2 on Windows XP please chime in!


Which language do you have SeaMonkey set to use? Lightning 3.7b1 seemed 
to be missing most languages, and I wonder if 3.8b2 still has problems 
in languages other than English?


What other extensions do you have installed? May be a conflict with one 
of those. Perhaps try going to Tools  Add-ons Manager  Extensions and 
disabling all except Lightning, then restart and see if Lightning works.


Safe mode is no use here, since it disables all add-ons, but it may be 
worth creating a new profile and see if Lightning works there. Tools  
Switch Profile  Manage Profiles, create a new profile then use it. You 
might also need to install lightning into that profile. This may not be 
a permanent solution, but at least gives information as to whether it's 
something in your profile causing the problem. You can switch back to 
your usual profile (usually named default) after trying this.


Hopefully those checks will give some clues...

Mark.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-21 Thread Robert Steinmetz

On 03/20/2015 04:58 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my computer.
I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.


Works fine for me - SeaMonkey 2.33 and Lightning 3.8b2 on Windows Vista.

What does nothing works mean? Does SeaMonkey not even start with
Lightning installed? Does it start but crash immediately? Does SeaMonkey
start OK, but there's no Events and Tasks menu in mail  news? Does
Lightning show up in the Extensions section of add-ons manager? Does
that give any clues as to why its not working (e.g. it might be disabled)?

Mark.

Seamonkey works as usual however whenever the calendar or tasks tabs is 
open the toll bar is greyed out and the calendar pane is blank, no dates 
or events. When I receive an invitation by email it does not open or get 
makes as read.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-20 Thread David C. Mores

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:56:00 -0400, Rob Steinmetz
notrsteinm...@mindspring.com wrote:


I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my computer.
I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.


You need Lightning 3.9b.

Same problem here.  However, 3.9b is for SM 2.34 and is incompatible 
with 2.33.  SM 2.34 is not available for download yet.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-20 Thread Wolf

Am 20.03.2015 um 08:06 schrieb David C. Mores:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:56:00 -0400, Rob Steinmetz
notrsteinm...@mindspring.com wrote:


I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my computer.
I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.


You need Lightning 3.9b.


Same problem here.  However, 3.9b is for SM 2.34 and is incompatible
with 2.33.  SM 2.34 is not available for download yet.


at least it is working under Linux (Ubuntuzilla).
*Seamonkey 2.33 works with lightning-3.8b2-sm+tb-linux*.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-20 Thread Rob Steinmetz

So it seems to be a Windows only issue?

I've seens some people post that they have it working under Windows. It 
hasn't worked for me yet.


Wolf wrote:



at least it is working under Linux (Ubuntuzilla).
*Seamonkey 2.33 works with lightning-3.8b2-sm+tb-linux*.

regards
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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-20 Thread Rob Steinmetz
What is the extension that disables validity checking? Then I could go 
back to the previous version which did work.


Ronnie wrote:

Yes sorry for the typo, I meant 2.33




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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-20 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my computer.
I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.


Works fine for me - SeaMonkey 2.33 and Lightning 3.8b2 on Windows Vista.

What does nothing works mean? Does SeaMonkey not even start with 
Lightning installed? Does it start but crash immediately? Does SeaMonkey 
start OK, but there's no Events and Tasks menu in mail  news? Does 
Lightning show up in the Extensions section of add-ons manager? Does 
that give any clues as to why its not working (e.g. it might be disabled)?


Mark.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-20 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

What is the extension that disables validity checking? Then I could go
back to the previous version which did work.

Ronnie wrote:

Yes sorry for the typo, I meant 2.33


I disabled validity checks and reinstalled 3.3.3. After that I had the 
newer versions it didn't work. It seems to have wiped out all of my 
calendars and won't let me add a new one.

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
Yes sorry for the typo, I meant 2.33


WaltS48 wrote:
 On 03/19/2015 06:22 PM, Ronnie wrote:
 Lightning 3.3.3 seems to be working here with SM 2.3.3 but I'm using the
 compatibility extension that disables checks. However I only use it
 lightly perhaps some more advanced features aren't working.


 That's really nice that Lightning 3.3.3 works with SeaMonkey 2.3.3,
 but does it work with the current version 2.33.




 Rob Steinmetz wrote:
 I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my
 computer. I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
 calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

 Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat
 random.



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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
Lightning 3.3.3 seems to be working here with SM 2.3.3 but I'm using the
compatibility extension that disables checks. However I only use it
lightly perhaps some more advanced features aren't working.


Rob Steinmetz wrote:
 I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my
 computer. I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
 calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

 Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.
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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-19 Thread WaltS48

On 03/19/2015 06:22 PM, Ronnie wrote:

Lightning 3.3.3 seems to be working here with SM 2.3.3 but I'm using the
compatibility extension that disables checks. However I only use it
lightly perhaps some more advanced features aren't working.



That's really nice that Lightning 3.3.3 works with SeaMonkey 2.3.3, but 
does it work with the current version 2.33.






Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my
computer. I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.



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